tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC October 5, 2015 9:00am-10:01am PDT
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recovery mode so a lot of that is where we can start to assess the damage to really start making some good decisions on how we can go and get people back into a protected situation but also back into a recovery situation. water issues. we have quite a few water issues that we are seeing, either people are without water or contaminated water. we do want people to be extremely careful as they are going on with this water issue. we have currently 40,000 people right now without water and i know that they are working very hard to get that back up. we have 26,000 people that are without power. that number seems to be an average. it's not that they're not getting it back up, it's just when one guess down, we get another one up so it's going back and forth there. but we do have 253 troopers on the road out there trying to keep everybody safe and help all the crews and everybody move accordingly. s.l.e.d. has gone and deployed additional officers into
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clarendone, lexington and lee counties so we have been able to do that. d & r has performed over 150 water rescues as of now. they are continuing to work very hard. we have 25 shelters open that are currently holding and housing 932 citizens in there right now. they do have plenty of food and water, all very safe and well taken care of. i want to really thank not only dss, who you may not realize they actually man those shelters and keep them safe, but they also partner with the american red cross and the salvation army, who have been absolutely fantastic partners to work with as we go through this. national guard. we have increased our number of guardsmen on duty. we are now up to 1300 national guard members across the state. we still have 7,000 on alert as we may need them. they have done 25 aerial rescues to date and will continue to do that. the good news that we have, and
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this is what we have zero hospitals that are going to have to evacuate. we have had a lot of heroes and i'm going to talk to you about the great heroes a little bit later but one in particular are the heroes that work at the columbia fire department. they worked all night long to get the bulk water over to the hospitals so the hospitals didn't have to go down. if you really want to talk about the work and the greatness of south carolina, it was the columbia fire department that really said they were going to try and make sure they had -- made sure that happened. i do want to say a special thank you to them. no major cell outages. we are seeing sporadic cell outages but no major ones at this time. so everyone should be able to still communicate in that way. and then the main thing that we have seen is everybody is requesting water. especially in the midlands area. they are without water in a lot of places, 40,000, so we are going to be setting up. a kn a lot of people tried to go to stores to buy it and stores are closed. we are setting up water
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distribution sites. you will see four water distribution sites in richland county today. i know one will be lower richland high school and the other will be richland fashion mall. the other two will be announced in short order. we will add six additional water distribution centers tomorrow. so for a total of ten around the state. so know that we have plenty of water. the time frame we are aiming is at 5:00 but you will see press releases if we can get those open sooner, and press releases if we have to deal with anything else. i want to thank walmart, who generously gave 80,000 bottles of water to the people of south carolina and are on standby to give what we need. so many people stepped up with supplies. our biggest focus right now is safety so if you are in your house, continue to stay in your house. continue to remind your kids to not get out and play in this water. what we want you to remember is if you are under a water advisory, follow it. and remember that this is not
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the time to take pictures. we have enough media out there that you can look at to see the pictures and see the views of what's happening in south carolina. what i can tell you is we are stronger today than we were yesterday. that's because the morale continues to be good. our angels in south carolina and our heroes continue to be our first responders. our first responders, our national guardsmen, those utility crews that are tirelessly working all night long to make sure your power is on, and the d.o.t. maintenance crews have just not stopped and continued to work 1,000 at a shift, switching off. they have done a fantastic job. all of that with our volunteers and everyone else, it seems to be going forward. we appreciate that. then you know, we continue to appreciate the kindness everyone is showing to each other. we wanted to move this further. i do want to say that i just, the reason we were late with this press conference is that i received fine call from president obama, he was
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extremely gracious and kind. he and mrs. obama expressed their concerns and their prayers for the people of south carolina and also said that they were there to assist. prior to my conversation with president obama, we went ahead and did something that's very unusual but it allows us to expedite the process. we did a verbal request for a major disaster declaration. so rather than waiting to do the paperwork which we are drafting now, we went ahead and did a verbal request which allows it to come faster. those things cover individual assistance, public assistance for things like debris removal and emergency protective measures, hazard mitigation, damage to infrastructure, so to try and expedite that, we went ahead and did that verbally. we are looking at probably 11 counties right now. that number will change. those are just the ones we are doing this because we have immediate needs now in 11 counties. as we go further and are dealing with our counties, we are going to see that we'll be adding to that list.
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i also think that what we have started doing is today we are having phone conversations with our counties, educating them on what they need to do to do the county assessments properly. we have people on standby to show them how to do that. and then we also have mike moore, who can help discuss that verbal declaration more if you have any questions in reference to that. i think that's basically the overall summary that i have for you but now i do want to go and just have certain partners talk with you as we go forward. so we will go ahead and start with -- >> i'm andrea mitchell reporting on politics in manchester, new hampshire. obviously that was nikki haley, the governor of south carolina, on the flooding emergency there. let's go right to nbc's sarah dallof, in columbia. what's the latest? >> reporter: you just heard the governor say no hospitals in columbia will have to evacuate. that is good news. there are at least five hospitals affected by our lack of water here, contaminated
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water or no water at all. two of those hospitals we knew were working on contingency plans but it sounds like, according to the governor, none of those hospitals will have to evacuate patients. right now here in columbia, we have a task force going door to door in some of these affected areas looking for people who may have been trapped, if there's no one inside they clear that house and mark it with spray paint. right now we have seven confirmed deaths in south carolina, one of those a transportation worker whose vehicle was swept away by flood waters. right now across the state we have approximately 40,000 people without water, 26,000 without power. we have a curfew here in columbia and we also have a continued plea from officials for people to please stay off the roads, stay home and let emergency crews focus on this recovery effort and getting the city back running. andrea, back to you. >> sarah dalloff, thanks for the comprehensive reporting from down there. now to politics. in the first primary state, hillary clinton rolled out a
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controversial new gun control plan starting with a politics and pancakes breakfast town hall led by nbc's savannah guthrie on "today." >> i'll start with your saturday night. >> you were really easy to talk to. >> oh, thanks. you know, that's the first time i have ever heard that. >> secretary clinton, it's a funny skit. does it raise a serious point? there are those who say we get it, we know your resume, you were secretary of state, you were a united states senator, but they just don't connect with you, they don't trust you, they might not like you. >> oh, that really hurts my feelings. i have to tell you. you know, look, i think that i was he lelected to the senate t by new york, i was asked by my former opponent to serve as secretary of state. obviously in this campaign, i'm fighting for what i think is important for our country and particularly for families in america, and i believe by the end of this campaign, people will know that i will fight for
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them and they can count on me. >> it's surprising to hear you say that. you have been in politics for 20 years so it's not like people don't know you. to just get real about it, are you having a problem connecting? >> i don't know. you can ask me that and obviously it's not the nicest question to hear, because i feel like i have a long record, i'm working on the issues that i believe are important to people, and i'm going to continue to do that. you know, i think some of it is just the idea that people want to know what you really feel like and you know, i'll admit i'm a more reserved person than maybe some people in politics are, but as you can see, from the skit, i also like to have a good time. we'll mix it up a little bit in the campaign. >> we just had some polls out this morning. i'm sure you have seen them. it shows bernie sanders winning here in new hampshire. >> at the moment. it also shows me winning in
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iowa, south carolina and nevada and nationally. so i'm happy to be in new hampshire to talk to people here. >> it's interesting to talk about bernie sanders, because as you mentioned, he's winning here, not everywhere else. he's raising serious money, hillary clinton money, for his campaign. what do you think he has tapped into and is it at all a reflection of your campaign? >> as you point out, i have work to do in new hampshire. i'm very excited to be leading everywhere else and i'm going to keep working hard everywhere else, but i always thought this would be a great contest. it's important. we are trying to elect the next president of the united states. that's a tough job and the people of our country have to evaluate the candidates, bernie's a neighbor here, he represents vermont. i'm out there every day doing the best i can to communicate what i will do, and i'm looking forward to the debate that we'll be having next week. >> let's talk about your favorite subject. the e-mail controversy. i think i have read every single
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thing you have ever said about it as i was researching for this interview, and i have to tell you, i see two things. on the one hand, you have said sorry and have apologized for the confusion that it creates. on the other hand, sometimes you say it's the work of your republican rivals going after you, it's the same old partisan attacks. i guess my question to you is, which is it? if you're blaming the republicans, some might wonder how genuine is that apology? >> actually, it's both. i'm sorry that i made a choice that has resulted in this kind of situation and i've said i made a mistake. obviously if i had to do it over again, wouldn't. it was allowed and everybody has confirmed that. but also as we now know, it's very clearly the way that the republicans are trying to bring my, as they admit, poll numbers down, so i'm very committed to answering questions, being as transparent as possible. i'm scheduled to testify before
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their committee which we now know is nothing but a partisan exercise. so it's really both. it's both hey, you know what, turn the clock back, it was allowed, i was thinking about many other things in my e-mail account when i became secretary of state because we had so many issues. >> it's allowed but you know this and anybody who works in government knows it's really not encouraged to use your personal e-mail. do you get how bad it looks? it looks like you set up a personal server, set up your own e-mail so you would have control of those e-mails and you and you alone would decide when to release them, whether or not to release them and in fact, that is what happened. >> well, first of all, it was allowed and i have said it wasn't the best choice. and every government official gets to decide what is personal and work related. if i had had two separate accounts, as many people do, obviously, i would have decided every hour what was personal, what was work related. the law also says that the
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official gets to determine that and that's what i did. and i have gone further than anybody that i'm aware of in american history. that's not a long history because we haven't had e-mails that long but as long as we've had them, i've gone longer and farther to be as transparent as possible. nobody else has done that. by the time this is over, i'm a little embarrassed the e-mails are so boring in many instances but they will all be out there and people will be able to make their decisions. >> you mentioned your republican rivals making hay of this. if the tables were turned and it was dick cheney or karl rove who had a private e-mail account and private server on which they conducted all their government business, would you be as understanding? >> i would never have done that. look at the situation they chose to exploit, to go after me for political reasons. the death of four americans in benghazi. i knew the ambassador. i identified him. i asked him to go there. i asked the president to nominate him. there have been seven
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investigations led mostly by republicans in the congress and they were nonpartisan and they reached conclusions that first of all, i and nobody did anything wrong but there were changes we could make. this committee was set up as they have admitted for the purpose of making a partisan political issue out of the deaths of four americans. i would have never done that. and if i were president, and there were republicans or democrats who were thinking about that, i would have done everything to shut it down. >> you're scheduled to testify before that committee. >> that's right. >> do you think it should be disbanded? that's what nancy pelosi has called for. >> i have to say that now that they have admitted it's a political partisan committee for the sole purpose of going after me, not trying to make our diplomats who serve in dangerous areas safer. that's up to the congress. if they're going to have it still running, i'll be there and i'm looking forward to answering questions about real things when i'm there, and i'm looking forward to having a chance to explain everything we have done,
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everything that i asked to happen, but it's not -- it's not appropriate what they have done from obviously their own admission. >> you have mentioned there have been seven or eight benghazi committees. this is the first to actually discover and find your e-mails. was that a public service? >> no. no. before this whole thing was a big controversy, the state department was looking for information. my e-mails were on the government account. more than 90% of them. the state department was pulling them out. they had been handed over. so look, i have been around this political situation for a long time, but some things are just beyond the pale. i'm happy to go if it still is in operation to testify. i am happy to turn over my e-mails. i have gone further than anybody ever has. that's okay. i'm willing to do that. but the real issue here is what happened to four brave americans.
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>> joining me for our daily fix, chris cillizza and anne guerin who joins me in manchester, new hampshire covering hillary clinton as well. first to you, chris. taking a look at what happened with kevin mccarthy and the benghazi committee, looking ahead to those hearings on october 22nd, how do you think she's framing it now? she is obviously prepared with a very strong response to the committee. >> you got the sense at the end of last week, but it's quite clear from her -- hillary clinton's responses that they believe kevin mccarthy handed them an absolute cudgil to beat republicans up with with his comments about the benghazi committee. she is already working to sort of disqualify partisan political committee that this was all formed simply to sort of bring her down. john boehner, to his credit, had done everything he could publicly although many democrats of course insisted this was only a political effort, but publicly
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to say look, we're just trying to get to the bottom of this. in one interview, kevin mccarthy undid that. and i think handed hillary clinton something that she can win on in terms of this issue. if you paint it as republicans are being political, they are out to get me, that's what this is all about and really what it should be about is the death of four americans which are the points she hit with savannah, that's her best possible argument. debating the back and forth of the e-mails, whether there's anything in them or not i think is a loser for her. but i think kevin mccarthy really handed them a silver plated issue. i don't want to say gold plated but he has helped them. >> in our new nbc news/"wall street journal" marist polls, we see that bernie sanders is still ahead of her and that -- with joe biden in the race, bernie sanders is more ahead of her. she's got a problem talking to people in that barn today, some of the democrats there which it was a mixture of democrats and independents, are concerned about the e-mails. >> absolutely.
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you see -- basically you saw the entire history of her response on the e-mail question in that exchange with savannah guthrie. it went from i'm sorry, i confused people, it was allowed, but it's a partisan political -- it's become a partisan political issue, all of those things she has said many times, some of them to greater effect than others, and i think she's going into this benghazi committee hearing, by the way, that was a little bit of magical thinking that the committee might not exist by the 22nd when she's supposed to testify. she's going into that with sort of on a really i think much tougher and more pugilistic footing than she had been even just a week or two ago. that's largely because of the mccarthy comments. >> which is why separately kevin mccarthy is facing opposition, in fact, from jason chaffetz.
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chris? >> i wanted to add to that point, what we know of hillary clinton is much better on offense than on defense. she has spent literally since she got into the race in april until relatively recently playing almost exclusively defense largely on this e-mail issue. things come out as she used in her own words, drip, drip, drip to chuck todd. this gives her the opportunity to turn the tables, to say see, republicans are doing this, all the things i said about them that you think about them, independents who are on the face, see, we're right about this. she is much better being aggressive, much better being even on the edge of angry like she was talking about benghazi, i think, than she is trying to play down well, we don't know what happened and i'm sorry if anyone, you know, none of that stuff is her. thinks mu this is much more who she is. she's good at it. >> the other thing she's doing today is gun control. she rolled it out on the "today" show and at a second event, talked about it with having
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invited nicole hawkley, one of the sandy hook mothers who lost her young son. this was an emotional moment here. >> -- precious children who were murdered. have taken the unimaginable grief they have to bear and have tried to be the voices that wed into to hear. >> we very rarely have seen an emotional hillary clinton. actually, once in new hampshire in 2008 right before the primary. you were in the room. >> yeah. you heard her voice break there. it was quite an emotional moment. it was also a surprise, the fact she was going to be talking about narrowing the gun show loophole if not closing it was not a surprise, but that she would introduce a woman who lost her 6-year-old at sandy hook
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definitely was. and it really, it had an effect on the crowd. it's a bit of a risk to talk about gun control in new hampshire. this is a rural state with strong hunting traditions and a mixed outlook historically on federal gun control. but she had the whole room with her, and certainly the sandy hook mother did as well. >> the leading democrat here, bernie sanders, has long supported by the nra. thank you both so much. coming up next, hillary clinton talks about joe biden and whether she would ever want his job. >> hypothetically speaking would you consider a vice president position? >> hype tothetically speaking, .
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welcome back. we're live on the trail in new hampshiring today. along with moshillary clinton, e on that today and her gun control proposals at a town hall meeting. first, the pentagon now saying its first explanation over the weekend for why the united states apparently bombed a hospital in afghanistan was wrong. u.s. forces were not under direct fire as they had claimed, which triggered the deadly air strike that leveled a doctors without borders hospital in afghanistan. as officials at doctors without borders have been saying all along. this was not true. >> the afghans asked for air support from spatial forces team that we have on the ground providing train advise and assist. the initial statement was that u.s. forces were under direct fire contact and what i'm doing is correcting that statement here. >> 22 people died, including 12 staff members of the aid group.
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the victims included doctors and patients, including several children. afghan forces backed by u.s. air support have been battling the taliban there after insurgents took control of the city three days earlier. joining me now by skype is the president of the brussels chapter of the medical group doctors without borders. her group was running this hospital in afghanistan. first of all, your reaction to the pentagon today acknowledging they were incorrect in those initial statements. there was no fire coming at coalition forces from inside the hospital as the msf has been saying. >> yeah. in fact, today is sort of the first time the u.s. admits it is their air strike that hit the hospital in kanduz that killed 22 people as you just mentioned. the description of this attack has been changing over the last few days, coming from a tragic incident to collateral damage and now putting responsibility
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to the [ inaudible ]. it is clear to me now that the u.s. military forces dropped the bombs that hit a full hospital with over 100 patients and more than 80 staff and our hospital was full because of the fighting that started earlier that week. the u.s. military remain responsible for the targets they hit even if they were under coalition and there is no justification for such a horrible attack that is a violation against international humanitarian law. what we heard today and the discrepancies of the description of the incident makes it even more critical that we will have a fully transparent and independent inquiry of what happened. >> one of your statements, one of your group's statements over the weekend suggested that this looks like it could be a war crime. i want to know whether you believe it is now more likely that this is the case, because according to all reports and my
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reporting, the u.s., the pentagon was well aware of the coordinates of this hospital days, in fact, before this air strike. >> yes. so today, we have at least an admission that it was the u.s. military, pushing the responsibility again to the afghan forces but those who pushed the buttons remain responsible for their acts. it is against the foundations of the geneva conventions to bomb a hospital in a conflict zone. this hospital was doing the most essential humanitarian aid, giving medical care to people who are victim of the conflict. this hospital was at the front line and should be protected, its patients and its staff. we have indeed a severe situation here. this is not just an incident. this is a severe situation because the foundation of our
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work has been attacked and this goes wider. who of us is able to work at front line, give populations assistance that are victim of conflict under such circumstances? >> thank you very much. obviously we are going to stay on this story and keep doing our reporting as well. thank you for your help today. in other breaking news, we are following the coast guard who says it has found the body of one crew member from a u.s.-based cargo ship that sank in the atlantic near the bahamas. 33 crew members were on board. 28 of them were american. we are joined from jacksonville, florida for more. >> reporter: just moments ago, the owners of that ship, el faro, put out a statement saying in light of what the coast guard has issued, they still have hoped there can be survivors. the coast guard said they did find survival suits in the water. they found one, there was a
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deceased person inside that suit. but they say they are continuing this as a search and rescue mission. but consider the difficulty of how challenging it must be to abandon ship that is under the conditions this one was under. hurricane force winds of 140 miles per hour, seas of 50 feet high. the coast guard said they are hopeful because these are trained mariners. we should tell you the families are still hopeful. one of our reporters from our sister station in maine heard from a mother who said finding immersion suits mean that they themselves put themselves in the best possible position to survive. pray hard. they are still hoping that they will find their loved ones. quickly let me tell you, some mariners who came here to the union office told us a short while ago that they are upset thathis vessel ever went out into sea knowing that a tropical storm was coming that could turn into a hurricane. but they still look forward to going back out into the water. aund why? >> thank you so much.
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in a moment, we are back live from the trail here in manchester, new hampshire. hillary clinton is about to speak at another event. she has been talking about gun control today. earlier she unveiled her plans on how to curb gun violence in america. we'll have more details coming up. hold the phone. because at&t and directv are now one! which means you can access your dvr at the dmv. change channels while he changes pants.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hillary clinton is talking to voters here in new hampshire today where she is trailing bernie sanders and she was also at a "today" show pancakes and politics breakfast in hollis, new hampshire, where one of the questioners was a democratic voter, a 45-year-old mother of an 8-year-old son worried about gun violence. >> like so many, i'm very distressed about the recent mass shooting last week in oregon and frankly, a bit ashamed about the uncontrollable gun violence in
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our country, especially compared to other developed nations. my son is 8. i'm nervous to talk to him about it. there's regular lockdown drills at his school. it's part of life. i know i'm not alone in saying enough is enough. i would like to know as president what specifically you would do for gun control. more gun control. >> first of all, i share your feelings and just the sense that we have to take action. you have these terrible incidents like we just had in oregon, children being killed in school, people in bible study in a church being murdered, and on campuses, and so many others, and then there are about 92 deaths by guns every day and most of them don't make the headlines. so i have introduced my platform for dealing with gun violence because i think we have got to as a nation do exactly what you said, enough. what do we have to try to accomplish?
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we need national background checks. we know that they will work. we need to close what's called the charleston loophole, the young man who killed the nine people in the church in charleston, there's a loophole in the brady bill that if you go to try to get a gun and they don't finish the background check in three days, you can get the gun. we need to close the gun show loophole. i think it's 40% or so of the gun sales in america are done online, they are done at gun shows, they are done by people selling out of the back of their cars, basically. and we know where we enforce that kind of check, we do keep guns out of the hands of people who are domestic abusers or in a hot rage go out to get a gun because of a domestic dispute. so i really do want to push hard to get more sensible restraints on gun ownership in the wrong
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hands and then to try to keep track of people who shouldn't have guns and i want to work with the congress. we got very close. there was a bipartisan bill, it didn't go all the way, but i will also look for ways as president to try to tighten some of these checks, particularly to get more of the background checks done on more of the sales at gun shows and online than we currently have, because i don't -- i don't blame you for looking at your 9-year-old son and thinking do i have to tell him to be scared, duck and cover exercises in your school, in the united states of america? that's just wrong. so i'm determined to do something about it. i'll try in every way i can to get those guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> secretary clinton, we have bob carter, a democrat, 59-year-old, unmarried from rye, new hampshire. has a question about income inequality which has been a central theme of this campaign. >> i have admired your service to our country for many years
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but you don't yet have my vote. my biggest concern is what i see as the growing disparity in wealth and income in this country. i really feel it to my bones that this is becoming a threat to our country. we are just increasingly becoming a country of haves and have-nots. unfortunately, for many of us, we have come to know the game or the system is just rigged against us. we really desperately want a champion who will stand with us. so my question to you is, if you would please set aside the issue of which candidate is more electable in the general election, help me understand why i should vote for you rather than bernie sanders. >> let me talk about myself. i will let senator sanders talk about himself. we will have a chance as we go through the debates to contrast our positions. i believe strongly that raising incomes is the issue, the top priority. that is what i'm going to spend all my time on. there are different levels of what we have to do. we have to raise the minimum wage because right now, you can
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work full-time and you are still in poverty. we have to create more good paying jobs. that's why i have advocated for more infrastructure jobs, with an infrastructure bank, putting people to work, repairing our roads, building what we need to be competitive and strong. it's also why i have said i want to combat climate change and the best way to do that is to create more clean energy jobs. those are good jobs that can't be exported because we will be putting solar panels and wind turbines up. we will be doing things right here at home that will not only combat climate change but create new jobs and new businesses. i believe that if you look at the last 35 years, democratic presidents have inherited big problems when it comes to the economy from their republican predecessors. our real differences are with the republicans. they want to take us back to trickle-down economics. if they get a chance they will once again wreck the economy and the inequality that you and i care so much about will be even worse. i know what to do because i have watched it up close and personal and i understand how we can get
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incomes once again rising, how people can feel they have a stake in our country and where we begin to narrow that inequality gap so we have broad-based prosperity that everybody can benefit from. >> to bob's question about bernie sanders, though, he leads here in new hampshire, he's got huge crowds wherever he goes, 20,000 people in boston over the weekend. he's raised a lot of money, almost as much as you did in the third quarter. are you surprised by the rise of bernie sanders? >> oh, no. look, i really believe this is great for the democratic party and for this election, because we want to turn out as many people as possible in order to understand and believe what we both believe that the difference between us on the democratic side and the republicans is a huge gulf and if you care about your income, your family's income, then you've got to look at the democrats. i happen to think my plans and my experience will get us where
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we need to do and that's what i'm advocating. >> joining me in new hampshire, senator jean shaheen. why is bernie sanders doing so well? >> i share hillary's view that it's good to have bernie in the race. he's raising a lot of issues, getting people excited. i believe ultimately hillary will win the nomination but we need a lot of people talking about the choices we have in this upcoming presidential race and having bernie's voice is important. we have always had representatives of different wings of the democratic party who have run for president and this year is no exception. >> well, if joe biden were to get into the race according to our new nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist poll, hillary clinton would do even worse. sanders' lead would grow over her if biden were in the race. clearly they are drawing from the same democratic base. this is what hillary clinton said today about joe biden.
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>> once you're in the political fray, he knows this better than anybody, he's been elected for many, many years from delaware and now in the white house with president obama, once you're in the political fray, then everybody begins to ask you questions and you are being pushed and pulled in many different directions. no he knows that very well but it's up to him to make the decision about what's best for him and his family. >> up until now she has been saying i'm not going to discuss that, he's going through his grieving process, it's his decision. this is the first time she said he knows what it's going to be like if he gets into it. a not very subtle warning to joe biden that this is not going to be quite as easy as he thinks if he were to get in. >> this is running for president, it's a tough job. president biden or vice president biden knows that because he's done it twice before unsuccessfully. so i think again, the more people we have talking about the issues, the better.
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i still believe hillary clinton's going to win the nomination and if we look at where previous presidential races were at this point in time, i worked really hard for john kerry who was losing to howard dean at this point in time and had been written off. i worked for al gore who was losing to bill bradley at this point. i worked for gary hart and at this point in the race, the media had decided that the race in 1984 was between walter mon:dale and john glenn. i have been around long enough to know that polls are just a reflection of what people have heard recently and that this race is going to be decided by people at least in new hampshire, it's going to be decided by people who will ask the hard questions like bob did in the town hall, who will want to hear the candidates' answers and will make the decision based on that. >> the democrats whom you spoke of just now did not win the general election. they were defeated by republicans, kerry and gary hart didn't get the nomination. >> gore won. he won the popular vote.
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he didn't win the electoral college. >> my point is they didn't become president of the united states. here's what one of the people at that town hall had to say about why she wants to draft joe biden. >> tell me how you feel about joe biden running. >> i think that joe biden has a great opportunity to capture the hillary iffy supporters who are annoyed by the e-mail situation and i think that biden is the donald without the trump. i think he speaks his mind but i think he is polite and he doesn't insult anyone. the main thing for me is to elect an electable democrat. i believe he is a more electable democrat. >> how do you deal with this residual feeling among many democrats that she is damaged? this woman said she thinks she's got too much baggage because of the e-mails. >> again, i think people
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ultimately will determine that. but as i have been at events and listened to people talk about hillary, most people aren't asking about e-mails. most people are asking about what's she going to do about making sure their kids can afford a college education. right here today, we are talking about early childhood and the importance of early childhood. hillary has had a record on that for years that is i believe far better than anybody else in the race. so i think the voters will make up their own minds and i believe in the end that she is going to be the nominee. >> senator, i want to ask you about the governor announcing today that she is going to challenge kelly ayotte in the senate race. >> there has been a lot of speculation about this. it was very exciting to hear the governor's going to get in. i think we will have a real robust debate on the issues that effect this country and that maggie and kelly have very different perspectives on many of those issues. >> kelly ayotte has been a very popular senator, has she not? this is going to be a very tough race.
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>> it is a tough race. but it ought to be a tough race. people should not be able to walk back into a seat for the united states senate without getting questioned by voters and having a chance to have voters hear what the alternatives are. >> just very briefly, i know you are on the committees, armed services and foreign relations. we have had this hideous, devastating bombing in afghanistan. today the pentagon is saying they were wrong, there was not fire coming at coalition forces from inside the hospital, as doctors without borders has been saying for days. >> well, it's a horrific tragedy. doctors without borders does wonderful work. i certainly am very sympathetic and feel so badly about the families who lost people and the afghans who lost people who were there working really hard to try and make sure that they can get care when they needed it.
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so it's a horrible tragedy and i think we need to get answers about why it happened. >> thank you so much, senator shaheen. good to be in your state. >> nice to have you here. stay with us. more of the light-hearted moments from the town hall with hillary clinton. that coming up, like her response to what is your favorite celebratory drink? >> vodka martini. >> bill schafer saw opportunity in the midst of california's record-breaking drought using a trick that golf courses have known about for years. his bay area company brown lawn green uses an organic grass colorant to make a dry lawn look lush, healthy and green with minimal watering.
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contact with. and the fact that some of those individuals lost their lives over the weekend is a profound tragedy and nothing less. i know that general campbell has had the opportunity to convey his condolences to the president and i know there are senior administration officials who have had the opportunity to speak with the leadership of doctors without borders to convey their condolences there as well. the scale of this tragedy is significant enough that it demands a full investigation and you saw from the president's statement that he issued over the weekend that he expects a full accounting of what exactly has happened. so there are actually three different investigations ongoing. the first is there is a formal department of defense investigative process that is already under way being led by brigadier general rich
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