it was funny to watch. he was trying to roll his eyes. it was funny in the opposite way. not the intentional way. >> thank you so much for being with us. that does it for this hour. i'm kate snow. "mtp daily with chuck todd" starts right now. it's high stakes tonight to see if anyone can be the credible alternative to hillary clinton. as for clinton she has been to this vegas show before, but what her wind wander to next week, where it will be a bigger roll of the dice testifying to the benghazi hearing. this is mtp daily and it starts right now. welcome to tuesday, everybody. and it's a big tuesday. it's delegate night for the democrats. very first one. and it's taking place in one of

the early states -- las vegas. hillary clinton needs to prove she can recover from some stumbles that many say are weighing down her campaign. mostly e-mail related. bernie sanders needs to come across as an electable, general election campaign and martin o'malley needs to find a moment, any moment to break through. of course the same could be said for both jim webb and lincoln chafee. you'll be forgiven if you forgot both are running. all those not named clinton and sanders need to introduce themselves to the country and show why they should be on that stage tonight. all this while the proverbial elephant in the room, joe biden, will be watching from his home in d.c. all eyes are on him to see if he'll get into the race. which we'll get into in a bit. with no time to waste, we'll hit the press box. we have kristen welker on biden

watch. and chris jansing up in new hampshire with the bush administration. and chris matthews is getting ready to play hard ball himself in las vegas. so chris, set the scene here. there's no donald trump on stage. but right now, the person who's most likely to be the next president of the united states, if you were to look at all the oddsmakers is hillary clinton, and she will be. >> yeah, she will. chuck, i think you've got it. the fact that this is in vegas makes perfect sense. it's about betting odds. there's a weird disconnect, if you go out and talk to the people who are rooting for bernie sanders, they remind me of the people -- from the '60s. november doesn't count. they will argue that everything that bernie is fighting for, tr free tuition, bigger social security benefits, health care, all that can be paid by cutting defense or taxing wall street. by the argument they're not

ready for, does he have a chance of being elected to the white house? a socialist, self-described older socialist from vermont. that's the weird thing. so they don't think about the general election. the hillary people say to them, we'll be with you in november. you're be with us. so they're already thinking ahead to the big game in november. acting like eventually these people will get their heads straight and realize it will be hillary. so we don't want to offend them. it'sed whi it's a weird kind of competition, that neither side is talking about the same thing. hillary is talking about winning in november and the bernie people are talking about how fun this is, how great it is to make your point. >> let's look at what we will see tonight. hillary doesn't want to attack bernie and give him oxygen, but three other candidates go to do something. what do you expect? >> well, i think that bernie has a chance to play what you call

attack from a defensive position by favorite tactic which is wait for the other side to take a shot at you and then pound them back with everything you've got. people love the guy or woman who counterpunches. i think bernie can say the minute somebody says to him, how you going to pay for this, you know it's a funny thing when we start a up war and nobody asks who's going to pay for it, how much it will cost. hillary? and then he doesn't have to say the word hillary, the direct shot will be against her. she supported the war in iraq. so he can take a direct shot at her and i think everybody in the audience will know who it's directed at. so no matter who goes after bernie he can go after hillary. hillary has a harder fight because she has to go after him like a republican. she has to keep saying who's going to pay for this, who's going to pay for this? where's the money coming from? that's going to make her sound like a republican. not like a progressive democrat. >> okay. but go back to what do you do if you're martin o'malley? >> well, i think you have to be -- you have to play for the one liner. you can't go for the victory

tonight. you have to go for the one that's going to be all over youtube the next couple of hours afterwards and the next couple of days, which is something about hillary clinton being a little slow to the game. where did she come out on the cadillac tax? well, she came out for labor, but very late in the game. why did she take so long to do keystone, why did she come out for the trade bill 35 times and then decide at the last minute she was against it because richard trumka was against it. if i were him, i'd make my bones tonight, to use a mafia term, by going after hillary in a very legitimate way. you're not a real progressive. >> wow, it's going to be a fun night. i think you're going to have fun watching it. we'll be watching you in a couple of hours both before and after. mr. matthews, thank you. now, let's move 2400 miles east across the country, that's where we'll find the vice president of the united states. tonight, he plans to watch the debate at his official residence at the naval observatory. we'll check in with kristen welker now. live of course at the white house. and kristen, once again it seems

as if the vice president the trying to buy more time. they made it clear he's going to watch tonight's debate. what is he looking for in tonight's debate that will somehow move him in either direction? >> well, there's no doubt he's be assessing secretary clinton's strength. that's what i'm being told by sources. having said that, they say his indecision really rests on an indecision within his family about whether he feels as though they have the emotional strength to move forward with this, given the recent loss of his son beau. and another point, chuck. the vice president wants to be very certain he has a path to victory if he decides to get into this race. i'm being told that he sees the path to victory through south carolina. now, there are a lot of filing deadlines coming up as you know. they're looming, they're one of the things putting pressure on the vice president. the first one, october 29th, which is georgia. then a whole slew of filing deadlines in november and december. south carolina by the way

according to our political unit, january 4th. so there are some branches within the democratic party that believe he has a little bit more time here. however, i am told that he knows he really has to make a decision soon for his supporters' sake and for the broader democratic party. there's a sense he's casting a cloud on secretary clinton's campaign with this indecision. >> i have not heard -- what would be his rationale for running? that is something we have not yet heard leaked out. that's surprised me and that makes me question whether he is actually leaning yes. >> and i think that's a great point. i think that is the other thing that he will be looking for in tonight's debate. does he have a place on that stage? what would his argument be? and i think that one argument we're starting to evolve is he's the best one to carry the torch of president obama's policies. secretary clinton has distanced on tpp and syria and she's come out opposed to the keystone xl

pipeline. the administration hasn't weighed in on that yet. but that could be the i think aal that vice -- the angle that vice president biden is looking at. would he get enough support, given that you have secretary clinton and bernie sanders who is representing the more progressive side of the party. chuck? >> we have to remember one more thing, the most popular democrat in the country right now is actually barack obama and it's not somebody on that stage. maybe that's something that vice president biden is thinking about. kristen welker, thank you. let's turn to the republicans. had a busy day up in new hampshire. jeb bush released his plan to repeal and replace obamacare today. it's common to hear republicans say scrap it, but so far, jeb bush is the only candidate other than bobby jindal who pitched a proposal. today he's in new hampshire trying to tie obamacare's defects to the top democrats running for president. >> hillary clinton supports it, and so does bernie sanders and

the others in the debate tonight and they'll prove they'll be strongly supportive of this top down driven highly bureaucratic plan. >> let's bring in chris jansing. she is live in lebanon, new hampshire. so chris, walk me through it. what is this plan and i guess i'm curious, how enthusiastic is bush about it? is this a plan he's fired up about, or is this a check the box, the base wants to know you have a plan rollout? >> no, i think actually, chuck, this is something that he feels he can make a case for. and that he can make a case for his leadership skills. he thinks when he made adjustments as florida governor, they worked really well. so let me touch on a couple of the i think thises and they really -- let me touch on a couple of things and the republican base hasn't supported him. the first thing, less control by the federal government. more by the states. more by individuals. music to the ears of

conservative republicans. getting rid of a lot of mandates of obamacare that he calls job killers. that's at phrase we hear from the republicans. he talked about a transition plan to make sure that people get the care that they need in the interim and the way that he makes up for some of the things that get cut back, there would be more tax incentives. people would be able to put more money into the health care savings plans. having said all of that, if you take an honest look at what happened in florida, as you well know, chuck, there were a lot of people who lost health care there. so that's one of the things that's going to be questioned. there aren't details on how that transition would work. just that the federal government would work to help the states do that. so still a lot of questions, but to your point, people i talked to said they wanted the alternative today and he presented it. >> that's always missing. very quickly, does he have debate plans tonight, is he watching?

has he said that? >> i had a few minutes with him. he pulled up as i was leaving. i asked him if he'd watch the debate, he said he would be. very different than from marco rubio, who said he was too busy. i said what are you going to be watching for? maybe get some tips on my debate skills. the first two were not exactly roundly praised, although i think he got better the second time. but look, he's going to be watching hillary clinton. his campaign still believes and i asked him, what's your strategy going forward? he said, we're going of to let the ads work. they have got $12 million worth of ads running just in new hampshire right now. and he says, within six weeks they're 2 1/2 weeks in, they'll start to see the numbers move. they still think that he'll be the one standing on the stage against whoever the democratic nominee will be and right now, that obviously looks like hillary clinton. so he'll be checking it out. >> that's right. he's scouting. that's what a coach would do. you scout a team, an opponent. chris jansing, thanks very much.

real quick, i want to show you news we got 30 minutes ago from the carly fiorina campaign. we haven't heard from all the campaigns, but they tweeted out in the second quarter there as you can see, july -- third quarter, july 1st, she raised $6.8 million. so what does that mean? let's put it in with the rest of the group that we know the numbers for so far. they're due in october 15th. this is how it stacks up. take a look at the republicans in the third quarter and it puts fiorina ahead of rubio. she outraised him for the quarter. and outraised rubio. i don't think anybody predicted she'd be outraising rubio and paul. they have 48 hours to make it happen. here's another big headline today. planned parenthood will stop taking money in exchange for the costs associated with anybody who wants to donate fetal tissue

for research after their abortion procedures. planned parenthood has been under fire from conservative groups since those undercover videos were released by anti-abortion activists showing an official from planned parenthood explaining how the group provides fetal parts to medical researchers. planned parenthood says the videos were deceptively edited and in a letter to the director of the national institutes of health, planned parenthood president cecile richards say this. quote, we're going even further in order to take away any basis for attacking planned parenthood to advance an anti-abortion political agenda. richards explained that planned parenthood had been accepting payment to cover costs associated with fetal tissue donation under a 1993 law. bipartisan legislation that was passed after a recommendation by a panel appointed by the way by the reagan administration. much more to come as we head into tonight's debate. more previews. we'll check in with senior strategist from both the clinton and sanders campaigns.

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so why are democrats holding their first debate in las vegas tonight? two words -- organized labor. look at the new analysis over the last ten years. as union membership has declined across the country, nevada has been a notable exception. in 2004, nevada looked like the rest of the u.s. about 14% of those employed were represented by unions. ten years later, notice this gap. 16.4% of nevada workers are now represented by unions versus 12.3% nationally. it doesn't look like an upticking, but the fact it's upticking here is big news.

it's higher than boston, denver or detroit. it's also about who's in those unions. get this. half of the 55,000 member las vegas culinary union are latinos. put that, plus the calendar makes nevada even more significant for democrats among the early nominating states, nevada has a higher union percentage than even iowa or new hampshire. which stand at about half -- about 12.5 and 11.5% respectively. among the crucial swing states, florida, ohio, colorado, virginia, nevada has the highest representation of unions. when the numbers were crunched the union voters are a linchpin constituency in a linchpin state. pay attention to how they answer on the hot button issues and they know that organized labor is watching. tpp may come up, you name i. up next, with a few hours to

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the battle for the future of the democratic party gets its first major showdown in a few hours. this first democratic debate is a big test for bernie sanders to prove that he can turn his progressive passion into democratic and general election votes. but does a brief exchange i had with sanders on "meet the press" prove in four seconds why he might have a harder time getting elected president? are you a capitalist? >> no. i'm a democratic socialist. >> i'm joined now by tad devine, senior adviser for the sanders campaign and tad, let me start with that issue. do you think it's an issue for the american public that bernie sanders says he's not a capitalist? >> no, i don't, chuck. i think if people want to talk to him, how he feels about our economic system he's more than

happy to talk at great length about it. he feels we have an economy that's rigged, sending all the wealth to the top, that billionaires can give unlimited amounts of money -- 158 families in america donate half of the campaign contributions, this year in this election cycle. he's happy to talk about that and happy to talk about his belief that it's important to encourage in our society. bernie will make it clear where he stands. the one thing about bernie sanders and his identification as a democratic socialist which is something he's identified with as a long time he's honest with people about who he is and what he believes. >> so is his goal tonight is what? is it to win over more skeptical democrats? is it to find and prove that he's electable as a nominee? what is his goal? >> his goal is to introduce himself to people who don't know much about him. this a big moment in the campaign, but another big moment. tomorrow he'll film an episode

with "ellen." and we have been stringing together i think a lot of big moments in rallies across this country. and opportunities to talk to people that bernie has taken advantage of through the press. so it's -- if he can let people know more about him, what he wants to do for this country, his plans for america, it will be a great night for us. >> let me play for you, you know, there have been some focus groups that have been taking place, democratic consultant in the name of chris cafenis. here's what the group said. >> very personable. his weakness -- i just -- i don't know that he could make anything happen. >> it was actually similar to a question i think i asked him on sunday. which is, there are people that love what he is saying and look at it and say, how is this guy going to work with congress? >> well, chuck, another opportunity for us tonight is if people want to talk about bernie's record of accomplishment, you know, there was a decade when he was in congress i think it was '95 to 2005 when he passed more

amendments than any member of congress. when he was chairman of the veterans committee he and john mccain and other republicans in the house put together the most sweeping legislation that the congress passed which was something to try to deal with the problems that the veterans administration. bernie sanders has a record of dramatic achievement that dates back to his time as burlington mayor. he looks forward to addressing the concerns and filling in the blank about getting things done even to a washington that's gridlocked. >> is his goal to present a contrast to hillary clinton a direct one or a subtle one? >> chuck, i don't think his goal is to contrast much at all. we believe his message is the most powerful message not just in the democrating party but in all of american politics. if he can deliver that message as he has been, we think we'll win this race. that's what we'll do tonight. not push off her. i mean, there are differences on issues and if those -- if those issues come up he'll speak to

them. but he's not interested in pushing off her or positioning off her. he's interested in delivering this message as much as he can. >> you have been -- you have been doing presidential politics for a long time. why do you think bernie sanders is having a hard time appealing to latinos and african americans right now? >> because they don't know enough about him. as we begin to introduce him to those communities, i think we'll succeed. listen, we were gratified in the last few days the two members of congress, raoul griaval and keith ellison, they endorsed publicly bernie sanders. i think as people get to know him in the latino community, you know, i think bernie's story is powerful. the son of an immigrant, with no money and speaking little english. and his commitment to equal

rights and battle injustice began when he was a student at the university of chicago. his plans for education, that i will resound powerfully with those communities. so we have to introduce him and i think when they get to know him and see he can succeed, i think we can win a lot of support from both the communities. >> all right, tad, chief strategist for the bernie sanders campaign. thank you for coming on "mtp daily." hillary clinton has her own challenges, that iowa focus group, they said they want to see her passion and why they can trust her and relate to her as a person. not just a politician. here's little excerpt. >> positive is that she's basically tough as nails to this point. and the negative is that she's not very relatable or authentic. >> i don't think she should be getting caught up in the scandals she has been. >> i'm joined now by clinton campaign chair, john podesta. happy debate day to you. >> hey, chuck. how are you? >> let me get you to respond to

what you heard there in the focus group. i'm sure you have done your own versions of this and i'm sure you heard this before. but you heard the trust issue this and a personal relatability issue there. how much do you want to see the secretary deal with that tonight? >> well, she'll have a chance to talk directly to the american people tonight to millions of democrats. and i think that she's going to talk about the vision she has for the country, the fight she's waged her whole life on behalf of women, on behalf of children, on behalf of families. the kinds of issues she's hearing about on the campaign trail, as she's campaigning one-on-one with people in town hall meetings. and i think you'll see someone with real solutions to the problems that are keeping people up at night. so that they can get ahead and stay ahead. i think she'll do very well tonight. >> what does she have to say to progressives who just love what they're hearing from bernie sanders, and like what they hear from hillary clinton, but they wish they could hear more?

what does she say to the voters or progressives who are right now enamored with bernie sanders? >> well, you know, that's what campaigns are all about, chuck. i think what she's done is have had a life long history of fighting progressive fights. she's someone who never gives up. and she will fight for health care for all. to build on the success of the obama administration. she has differences on policy with bernie. i'm sure those will come out tonight on gun safety, on health care. on college affordability. so they'll come up, but i think what she wants to do is make her case to the american people about why the idea she's putting forward will improve their lives on a day in, day out basis to get wages growing again. to get people back into the middle class, to keep people feeling like they can get ahead and they can stay ahead and that's what she wants to do tonight. i'm quite confident that she'll

be successful in both laying out specifics but also relating them to the -- to the battles that she's fought her entire life. >> there was a long tick tock today about the e-mail issue and how your campaign dealt with it over the summer. late spring, into early fall. and then in the politico story they called it a cancer on the campaign. is that "a" a fair assessment, and "b" do you look back on it and say, you know what, we did take too long to address it? >> look, i think we have addressed it, chuck. i think she's provided her e-mails to the state department. asked that she be publicly released. it was allowed but she said it was a mistake. next week she's asked to testify in public. she's been doing that for months. before what we now know is a really partisan committee set-up to try to damage her, the gowdy committee. and the majority republican majority leader admitted so much

last week. i think she'll have a chance to answer people's questions but she's done what she needed to do which is to let people look at the e-mails, put them out there. i'll answer questions. but what i think people really want to hear about is what they're going to do for the -- for them. in their -- to improve their lives and i hope the debate focuses on that tonight. what's going to happen to prescription drugs, what's going to happen for college affordability, can we get people to participate more through profit sharing in the success that companies are having across the country. >> what's a greater concern to the campaign? this debate or next week's benghazi committee? >> you know, look, i think this debate is a time where people can compare and contrast the experience, the values, the programs, the ideas people have for moving forward, who can get the job done. who's been able to get the job

done for the american people in the past. and will do so into the future. this is a big moment. i think next week is something again that she's been asking for for many, many months with i is to testify in public and now, again, you know, i think this committee has been damaged in its reputation. it appears that it was really set up and then extended to drag into the political season specifically to damage her, but she'll get up there and answer questions. i think the point she wants to make, you shouldn't use the tragedy of four very brave americans who were killed in benghazi for partisan political purposes. what we should do is put together the resources and the policies that will protect the great people who are out there fighting on the front lines in very dangerous places. >> all right. john podesta, thanks for coming

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let's go back to las vegas where the first democratic debate gets under way in a couple of hours. for the democrats it's one of the few chances that the candidates have to make a serious and important impression. we checked in with the leading democratic campaigns, but just how do their rich histories and different styles size up against each other? we asked kasie hunt to take a look at sanders' past debate performances and clinton's. take a look.

>> reporter: if hillary clinton is the polished, diligent student with hours of national debate experience -- >> i believe in smart trade. i have said that for years. taking troops out can be just as dangerous as bringing them in. that's a core democratic party value. >> reporter: bernie sanders is in many ways her stylistic opposite. the independent senator from vermont is barely doing formal preparation for the debate. he's looked and sounded much the same for decades. >> talking about social justice, and we're talking about economic justice. i helped lead the fight to raise the minimum wage. but my main concern is the decline of the middle class. >> reporter: he's debated all kinds of eccentric candidates. >> we have two branches on our family tree. our mother's side and father's side. >> reporter: what might trip him up -- he's shown flashes of anger. >> it's people like you and -- >> reporter: that instinct could work to clinton's advantage. she's benefited from moments like that.

>> right here, sign it right now. >> we'll shake on it. >> no, i want your signature because i think everyone wants to see you signing something that you said you were for. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> reporter: but expectations for clinton are sky high. she did get tripped up on stage in 2008 when she wouldn't say if undocumented people should have a driver's license. >> i said i understand why governor switzer is trying to do it. >> you said you thought it made sense to do it. >> no, i didn't. >> you told the new hampshire paper and made a lot of sense. do you support his plan? >> you know, tim, this is where everybody plays gotcha. >> senator clinton said two different things in the course of about two minutes. >> well, i was confused on senator clinton's answer. >> reporter: a pile-on like that is less likely this time. she's a stronger front-runner with only four opponents.

three of whom barely register in polls. >> so there you go. fascinating analysis there of the two debate styles. kasie hunt is joining me right now and stick around, joining me from las vegas is one who is covering the clinton campaign. the biggest part of your piece, the bernie sanders -- you want to call it a temper issue or he'll jump out of his seat when he has something to say. it may look on screen like it's a temporary issue. it's bernie being bernie. but that might not come across so well. >> it is. and chuck you know better than anyone that these kinds of moments can create a perception that can be hard to shake. so if he does in fact go into a moment like this, come across in a way, especially against a candidate like hillary clinton obviously she's run into that scenario before, with other men

that she cease run against. it's certainly a risk for bernie sanders and i think even those who are preparing him or closest to him, they have been talking to reporters in the spin room already. to a certain extent they have their hands up in the air, you know what, we have done our best as far as what little preparation the senator wants to do. and i think all bets are off as far as what we might see. >> and there's an aspect of it, let bernie be bernie. alex, let's talk about the three wild cards on stage. they're ones that can cause more trouble. o'malley, webb and che firefighter, what can you tell me? >> they have literally nothing to lose. they have literally nothing in the polls here and they need something to be taken off of life support and get to relevance, let alone a path to victory. which is probably out of the question here.

jim webb if you go back and watch his debates very feisty. he has a tendency to get under people's skin. one warned hillary clinton about letting him get under your skin. chafee he'll bring up the iraq war. meanwhile, martin o'malley he needs a big break through tonight. he did not expect to be coming to the first democratic debate at 1% in the polls. he has not been an i believe to catch a break at all. he's built up his own expectations about the debate performance, demanding more and more debates, that's consumed his campaign for the last few months. if he doesn't deliver tonight, that's a big problem for him. >> an interesting way to put it. when you put the piece together an you did this mashup of the candidates who piled on hillary clinton at the infamous answer she gave to tim russert on driver's licenses for illegal immigrants there was one candidate that didn't pile on. joe biden. he was not a part of that mashup

and i know he was not part of it for a reason. he stayed silent. doesn't that tell you something about maybe -- does he have the stomach to do this against her? >> i'm not sure that he does, chuck. that's the question that i think a lot of people have been talking about here. people i have been talking to i think some of your analysis over the past couple of days has been right in the fever pitch has passed and people are ready for him to make a decision. i think in some ways that's the way this debate plays into those calculations that are being made. how well does hillary clinton do, how does she take positions on issues and does joe biden feel like he can look at that and make a clear and aggressive contrast and really take her on? i think the sense among many clinton allies or the message they're pushing here, you know what, at the end of the day, it wouldn't make any sense. she would still win the nomination but what he would do, is drag her down for months and months and put a democratic white house fundamentally at risk and it's not clear that his team is ready to do that. >> alex, very quickly, tonight,

we have seen this in the republican debates where no matter who the mainstream media thinks might have done well or not it's the candidates that are just so powerful in social media that can sort of consume the analysis, whether it's cruz or trump or carson. that's what the -- there's the role bernie sanders could play tonight. doesn't his social media army put him in a position where he gets to win no matter what? >> chuck, i think you're right about that. he likes to talk about how he doesn't have a super pac, but bernie sanders super pac is reddit and the powerful army he has. he'll win in that audience no matter what. >> all right, you guys will have a good time in vegas tonight. the good news is the debate ends early for you two. and then you get all sorts of time to do real gambling after we roll the dice on this debate. have a good time. >> but the next day starts so early, chuck. >> yeah. yeah. you can sleep when you're dead. that's what warren zevon said.

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it is lid time. tonight, we're joined by amy walter and robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post." all right. i posed this question on sunday. i thought we'd hear from ryan before biden. who are are we going to hear first from? ryan or biden? >> i think biden will wait until after the benghazi hearing. i think we'll hear from ryan early next week. >> that was really quick. >> that was very good. i agree. let's wait until after benghazi. if the whole reason for biden waiting is to see if hillary clinton implodes, why not wait until after the debate and benghazi. but i don't think there'll be an answer. that's the thing. i don't think this is going to be so clear cut.

>> won't that look terribly calculating on his part. isn't it the last thing he want to look like is the calculating politician? >> but isn't that the reason for him getting in? >> ryan wants to meet face to face with members when he he's back on capitol hill. >> so what happens tonight? how are you watching the debate? you watch debates differently than most people? >> that's probably true. the thing that we haven't discussed is the fact that hillary clinton is a very good debater, but hasn't been on the debate stage since 2008. there's still a rustiness factor there. and i'm curious to see how aggressive how someone like martin o'maly will be. >> he's the guy calling for all these debates. if he doesn't like light the place on fire, then you let your whole campaign become about debates. >> i want to see the if senator sander s has the fire. how does that translate to the debate stage? i think he'll have a good debate, but it's two hours, a forum that's not really his

crowd. he'll have to perform. >> and going back to hillary clinton, is this an important night, but is it less important than next week? >> probably. i mean, listen, what makes the republican's debates much more important is that there's still such an undecided block and those establishment candidates are trying to break through. hillary clinton doesn't have to worry about this. what she has to worry more about is the unpredictability of what goes on in benghazi. that and losing, you know, she's not going to worry about losing a debate as much as losing in the hearings. >> which will only add that she skipped the walk-through of the debate. not to say, she's done this a million times. >> yes. >> testifying before congress, she's done a few times, but not like -- >> she jokes that she never sweats, because she's been through these things year after year, decade after decade. i think secretary clinton

doesn't have to introduce herself to the country. the other senators do. how much does sanders target clinton? does he bring up the e-mails. and people will be listening to secretary dloclinton's answer o e-mail. >> does tonight clinton have to worry more about the moderators than the other candidates? >> not when i said that, anderson cooper said, i don't want to make this aboupitting the candidates against each other. >> so individual interviews? >> maybe individual or we'll just throw out an issue. i think what you're not going to see is what we saw in the republican debate before, which is to say, okay, bob, tell us what you don't like -- chuck said something -- >> one wild card, lincoln chafee. if he starts bringing up hillary clinton's record on war, starts talking about iraq, that hasn't been a part of the conversation in the democratic primary, that could make it one. >> there are two issues that are interesting that would get the 1 percenters into this. jim webb is for the deal so it

is an easy way to get those one pcers into the conversation. >> but that doesn't help clinton. >> ryan or biden? you think ryan first? >> i think ryan's inclined to do it, but he has to make some sort of agreement with the freedom caucus. >> thank you both. we'll be back wednesday with more "mtp daily" live from new hampshire. steve kornacki picks up our coverage, next. >> right now on msnbc live, it is fight night in vegas. five democrats squaring off in the main event coming up this hour. we're going to break down which candidate is the odds-on favorite in tonight's debate and who might the wild card be. plus, what happens in vegas doesn't always stay in vegas. the showdown between dnc head debbie wasserman schultz and vice chairwoman, tulsy gabbard. allegations flying back and forth between them. also, betting on biden.