happening in a bedroom, for example, but they're supposed to get people talking and thinking. >> all right, erica, happy friday. >> and to you. that does it for this hour. i'm kate snow. "mtp daily" with chuck todd starts right now. >> if it's friday, it's a serious divide inside the democratic party, as one top dnc official tells me that debbie wasserman schultz days as dnc chair are done. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. ♪ ♪ happy friday, everybody. another packed show for you tonight, including my interview with the former minneapolis mayor, and current vice chair of the democratic national committee and he's making no bones about the fact that he's accusing the current party chair, debbie wasserman schultz

of making statements that are, what he said, flat-out not true, and calling her a threat to the 2016 race. you'll see that full interview later in the show, as well as a report from our stakeout outside the room from where huma abedin has been giving her testimony before a small version of the house benghazi committee. but of course it's been a busy day all over the country. let's hit the press box. we have nbc's hallie jackson at a hillary clinton event coming up in keene, new hampshire. and ali vitale is outside a trump rally in tingsborough, massachusetts. and kristin welker keeping tabs on the vice president and his moves. she's coming from the white house north lawn. so let's start here in new hampshire where hillary clinton sent two powerful messages to her biggest competition today. she released new names on her leadership counsel from three more states. the campaign is trying to leave

no room for joe biden. she's basically trying to suck up every known democrat to sign on for her. she'll be honored for fighting gun violence. she wants to contrast with bernie sanders and this helps. >> i think we have to keep talking, but more importantly, we have to act. and we have to be willing to take on those who are not in favor of sensible gun safety measures. >> let's go to hallie jackson now. hallie, what i've seen and it started tuesday night, and she did it again here, there's a new gear that hillary clinton is in. she's in primary gear. she's basically saying, fine, if bernie sanders is my chief competition, then i'm going to take him on, on what she believes is his weakest issue, guns.

>> and she's come out very strong against this, chuck, not just in the debate, but really in every event she's had since then. we heard her talk about it yesterday at that rally in south texas. it was the focus of her event just a little bit ago in keene and within the last 20 minutes, the campaign has released a new video, not only contrasting hillary clinton's position with bernie sanders' but linking her directly to president obama. some of the clearest evidence yet as this video shows president obama talking about how he believes we should be politicizing gun control, and then clinton's remarks in south texas yesterday saying she believes there's a need to stand up to the nra. clear evidence she's linking herself to president obama, drawing that distinction with bernie sanders and hoping that will make a difference in states like new hampshire where we've seen anecdotally among supporters here, a belief she's picking up momentum. and our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows her trailing

sanders, including one from boston, showing her pulling even with him. >> and very quickly, her schedule, this is her last public event before the benghazi testimony, am i correct? >> she's got alabama tomorrow. but after that, she's down for a few days before the benghazi hearing. and that's for prep. she talked about this actually just recently in an interview on another network, saying that she's not really sure what to expect out of that committee hearing next week, but she believes, as she said before, that this is essentially a way to drive down her poll numbers. so we don't see much of her early next week, we'll see a lot of her on thursday. >> hallie jackson, thank you very much. we move on now to donald trump today going after george w. bush again, on the 9/11 terrorist attacks. take a listen. >> when you talk about george

bush, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> hold on, you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president. don't blame him or don't blame him, but he was president. >> jeb bush didn't like what he heard. he responded, calling trump's commentary pathetic and said, quote, we were attacked and my brother kept us safe. joining me now with the latest on the campaign, ali vitale who is live in tingsborough, massachusetts. he's going to be at an elementary school doing a rally there, but he's always looking for a way to needle somebody. i guess today he thought it should be jeb bush again. >> reporter: yeah, chuck, definitely. controversial comments not new from donald trump. but at the same time, he did walk back the comments a little bit about george w. bush, saying it was more a question of leadership. he did give the example after

that of sandy hook saying it's a question of leadership and things haven't changed less pinning it on george w. bush then, and the idea of needing a leader. but also, he said jeb bush only wants him to call us by his first name. and he's forcing jeb to use the my brother line, but also to remind us, he has very real ties to the bush administration. >> it will be interesting to see what donald trump says later. ali vitale, thank you very much. and ali brings up a good point. anytime jeb bush is defending his brother, some would argue that's not a good day for him in the republican primary. now back to the democratic side of the 2016 race, potentially. vice president biden is yet to make a decision on whether to run for president. the man who currently has the job, decided not to push him publicly. >> i think that the vice president, like every other

candidate, make their own decisions about these issues, and they'll have to figure out whether it makes sense for them. >> biden's closest sources say only the vice president knows the answer. but they're ready. kristen, we've been talking to our sources on this today. i want you to tell me about what he had his closest adviser for years, ted coffman, from delaware, what he had him do earlier today. tell me about it. >> well, it was a pretty interesting morning. we woke up to this alert from ted coffman, one of biden's closest advisers who sent out this letter to former staffers, chuck, essentially saying, look, the vice president is giving this is a very serious look and i'll read you a portion of the letter. it says, if he decides to run, we will need each and every one of you yesterday. the letter seemed to be aimed at

giving biden a little bit of space. we know biden has expressed frustration there's been so much pressure put on him to make a decision. always aimed at sending a message to some of his supporters that he is giving this a serious look. as you know, there have been news reports that that's just not the case. so it seemed to be aimed at quieting some of that criticism among some of biden's supporters. the other interesting thing to note, chuck, we talked about the fact that biden was making calls to officials in early voting states. i spent the day reaching out to top officials in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. they say they haven't heard from biden. doesn't mean that he's not calling folks in these states, but that it hasn't reached the upper echelons yet. i talked to them about momentum, were they seeing new momentum for a biden run, they seemed to suggest there wasn't momentum. one top official in iowa said there seemed to be more momentum for a biden run several weeks ago. he has to be looking at clinton's poll numbers. we know she got good news in new

hampshire today. as well as the strong debate performance, she seems to be gaining momentum in her campaign, turning the corner on the e-mail controversy. one more point, chuck, i spoke to one of his supporters and i said, what does your gut tell you? he said, i keep thinking it's going to happen until it doesn't. so they're all still in a holding pattern. they want a decision. it could come as early as this weekend. >> i know. i talked to another one of these people who have been kept in the loop, who was essentially told, we think it's any day ynow and we're worried it's going to be a "no." so it's any day now, and we're saying that now for a week. this is in the hands of the vice president. >> that's right. and when you talk to supporters, that's what they say. >> all right, appreciate it. coming up, discord inside the democratic party. my interview with the dnc chair who decided to make some news "the new york times." wait until you hear what he says

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the fight between fellow flor iddians jub bush and marco rubio is getting ugly and public. it's been bubbling for weeks now. the latest fund-raising deadline ended up pushing this feud out into the open big time. both bush and rubio posted less than third-quarter stellar numbers. bush's 13.4 million beat out rubio by quite a lot. cash on hand, team bush is $10.3 million, team rubio, shy of $11 million. a fact that team rubio was quick to point out, touting, quote, thanks to smart budgeting and fiscal discipline, they had more money than bush in the bank. team bush countered with this

tweet from their spokesman tim miller, haven't seen the rubio press release on frugality, did it include the $6 million in tv ads they got to save money on? that's prompted them to ask whether he would support legislation against dark money. and for the first time, he said he would support a law increasing transparency and closure. so here's policy being made on the fly due to a political dispute in florida. jeb bush jr got into the fray, saying rubio should drop out or do something. but we're paying you to do something. it ain't run for president. bottom line, both bush and rubio need a boost. they're both feeling the pressure to show progress and they're both competing for the same donors and support. so that all adds up to this sense of urgency and desperation in many ways that we're seeing from both campaigns. speaking of interparty fights, the democrats have some

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visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. >> right in the midst of a crucial presidential election, dysfunction in the democratic national committee. two of the five vice chairs of the dmc are now basically in open revolt against the current chair of the party, debbie wasserman schultz. it first erupted when tulsi gabbard said she was disinvited to the debate after she issued a public call for more debates. it's a call she made on this show in particular. well, now, another vice chair is speaking out, accusing the chair of the dnc of making statements

that are flat-out not true. when she suggested that the party's officers were consulted about the debate schedule. not only that, rib ak tells "the new york times" that wasserman has become a threat to the 2016 race. quote, the democratic national committee staff has never been stronger. the one thing that could stop us from having a great election coming up is if the chair know its to create these self-made dramas that are below what a chair should be. i'm joined by former mayor of minneapolis, r.t.rybak. thanks for coming on "mtp daily." >> thanks, chuck. >> in that piece in "the new york times," you said you regretted you waited this long to speak out. why? >> well, this is part of a long pattern. chuck, for context, this has played out as debbie wasserman schultz and tulsi gabbard, but it's really about ruth bader

ginsburg and her successor. we have to elect a president. the job of the dnc is to bring this tent together and i think the current share, i've seen unfortunately over many months, seems to be unable to bring this big tent together. and a lot of us have spent a lot of us trying to coach her through that, a lot going on behind the scenes, and frankly, i felt it was important to play this out now, so that we can do what we can to hold that tent together, reach out to all parts, so we don't have this blowup before the convention when we're trying to get people together or before the election. >> is this about debate, first and foremost? >> well, the current discussion is about debates, no question about it. there's a policy difference. the chair feels we should have six. several other of us feel we should have more debates. much of the party feels we should have more debates. what i think a chair should do is to hear that and if she feels strongly that she has the right position, then open up the

process, tell people why, explain that, but don't tell people that you already have people like me and tulsi gabbard signed on, which you don't. don't call tulsi gabbard and i, peopling telling untruths. the fact of the matter, what we have to do is bring people together. i've been in different campaigns, the bradley campaign, the dean campaign, the obama campaign. when you have campaigns that start off as insurgent campaigns, you get a sense that everybody's against you. almost a paranoia. and it's essential for the central party to say, hey, look, it's all going to be fair and equal. we did that when the party met in minneapolis and all the candidates got the same amount of time. and frankly, i don't believe the conspiracy theory that this is something about hillary clinton. >> you don't? >> no. >> you don't believe that the chair of the dnc is doing the bidding quietly of the clinton campaign, saying, six is all we want? >> no, i don't. i think the chair and i have straight-up policy disagreement.

i could be wrong, but i don't think so. i think, however, the way she arrived at it was to simply make the statement, ignore those of us who gave her good advice behind the scenes about how to bring people together, how to communicate that, how to try to give a little bit of ground, to people who feel differently than her, and she has, i think, fairly recklessly ignored that advice and thrown a lot of gasoline on the fire. >> let me interrupt here a minute. are you concerned that the excitement that's been generated around the republican debate will lead to more excitement about republicans, and the lack of democratic debates than therefore there's sort of a vacuum here for democratic activists who feel as if, hey, they want their nights too? >> i absolutely feel that. let's face it. when republicans and democrats talk a lot, people will vote for democrats. we've seen that with what the republicans put on with their show, and what the democrats put on with a debate that was about

grown-ups talking about big issues. we have the right candidates and the right issues. we are the substantive party with the right vision. all we have to do is get that message out. so, no, i don't like sitting around, waiting, hearing the other party talking about some crazy stuff that has no counter, anymore than i like a vikings bye week. but the difference is, we're talking about the future of the country, and the democrats vice president been on the screen. you saw the other night, when democrats get on the screen, we soar. >> do you think debbie wasserman schultz should stay chair of the party if this can't be resolved? >> i have serious questions, and it's not just about the debate. the fact of the matter is, sometime in the month or two before the convention, somebody's going to win or lose. it's going to be essential for the leader of the party to be able to say to everyone, look, it's been fair, we need you now. let's all pull together. that's what democrats want. the only thing that will mess that up, i don't think the chair right now is in the position to

be that peace maker who builds that big tent for all of us. >> do you have an idea who -- >> and so many people want this to happen. >> do you have any idea who will be that person? >> i don't have an idea of who would be that person, but i think right now, we need to call that question. because we can't call that at that point. we have to go into this election with all of us being scrupulously neutral, being able to reach out to every side, because we've got great candidates, and more importantly, we have activists who need to be brought in. >> is there an emergency meeting you could call? a new dnc meeting to call to start airing this out? >> well, we have aired this out quite a bit, and we will continue to air it out. the people who run the dnc, amy daysy and her team, are wonderful people. and we will continue to stay in contact. the only reason i went public on this was after the chair went on television and repeated a knowing untruth about tulsi gabbard, one of our fellow co-chairs, a congresswoman from

hawaii, i'm not going to stand by and watch that, we shouldn't. >> all right, r.t.rybak, thanks for coming on and before i let this go, we reached out to the dnc for a statement. and we got this. officers and members we've heard from since tuesday night have been thrilled we had a great debate. we're in regular communication with all of our campaigns and discuss any number of issues with members and officers and we have a diverse and talented group of vice chairs and the party very much needs their voices moving forward. thank you very much, mr. mayor. >> thanks, chuck. let me take you to a live picture here of hillary clinton at an event going on right now in keene, new hampshire. and we have breaking news, speaking of hillary clinton, from capitol hill. we just heard and learned that her chief personnel aide, huma abedin, and her lawyers have now been moved to a classified room

to continue the questioning with the benghazi committee.

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nearly two weeks after a u.s. strike on doctors without borders, that hospital in kunduz, afghanistan, which killed at least 22 people. nbc news is now reporting defense sources have acknowledged it could be a war crime. and today doctors without borders claim that potential evidence related to the attack was destroyed when a tank, reportedly from the u.s., nato, afghan coalition, forced its way through a closed gate onto the compound. u.s. military officials say there are no u.s. tanks in the area. so this all comes as the pentagon remains under fire for misstatements about the attack and as doctors without borders repeats its call for a war crimes investigation. jim miklaszewski, obviously a lot of back and forth here between doctors without borders

and the pentagon. but there's also another aspect floating out there in the last 24 hours. the idea that special forces did believe somebody was using doctors without borders hospital as a shield, a serious terrorist. what are the facts here? do we know them yet? >> well, if special operations forces did believe that, it wasn't because they had eyes on. it was because of the information they were receiving from afghan military. the only eyes on that hospital when the ac-130 launched the air strike against it, was the ac-130. now, they fly, they circle at a very low altitude. they can loiter over a target forever. they go around in a circle with guns pointed right down at the target. and that gun camera video would have been easily able to pick up any gunfire of any kind coming from that hospital. and there's no indication from people we're talking to, that those cameras actually caught that. and it's important to remember

that the cockpit audio that was taken during that time, we're told that some of the military on board the air force special operations forces who fly those gunships and fire the weapons, expressed some concern about the target itself, and at least one person apparently questioned whether the air strike was legal. now, the people we're talking to indicate that it could be a war crime if, in fact, the crew on board, knew it was a hospital, and that there was civilians inside. nobody knows that yet. but the gun camera video, the cockpit recordings appear to be the key to this entire investigation. and about this idea that a tank went into the compound, we're told by u.s. military officials that it was an armored personnel vehicle of some kind, not a tank, and there was at least one american in the group as part of

a group investigating just what happened at the scene there. they want to take a look to see if there was a possibility that there could have been any gunfire from inside. but if you take a close look at the building, even after it was attacked, you don't see the usual pock marks you'd see if there was a gun battle going on at the hospital. so there are a lot of unanswered questions, and the u.s. military, in conjunction with the afghans and even perhaps many of the nato forces in the area, are going to try to get to the bottom of this as quickly as they can, chuck. >> hey, mik, i was going to say, compare this, the speed with which, it looks to me as if the pentagon's being a little more forth coming on something like this, when they're accused of doing something like this, quickly trying to sort of air the dirty laundry fast and furious here. compare it to other times when the u.s. military has been

accused of maybe accidentally or not accidentally bombing something that they shouldn't. do you sense that they feel as if this investigation is trying to get it out, all the bad news out quickly? >> there's no question about that. and particularly since it began so badly, for two days they claimed that american forces were being fired at, that wasn't true. then they reported afghan forces were being fired at, there's no real evidence of that. so you want to talk about speed in this case? look how quickly president obama picked up the telephone and apologized. so they know, they know exactly what went wrong. but they're trying to put it all together and figure out how to display it and how to fix it, or how to hold those responsible accountable. >> yeah, there's no doubt, he doesn't make that apology call if they don't know 100% they were in the wrong. >> and i'm sure general john campbell, the commander there in afghanistan told the president,

this is a huge mistake. >> all right, jim miklaszewski at the pentagon, thank you very much. still ahead, a report from outside the room where clinton aide huma abedin has been giving testimony all day long before the benghazi committee. but first to josh lipton with the friday cnbc market wrap. of. >> thanks, chuck. stocks end the week higher, dow up 74, s&p add nine, the nasdaq up 16. g.e. was a winner today. shares rose more than 3% after earnings beat estimates. revenue fell short of expectations. ups is raising ground of freight and air shipping rates, that in a bid to increase revenue. and finally twitter, shares jumping 5% today just after former microsoft ceo steve ballmer said he took a 4% stake in the company. ballmer now owns more shares

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today hillary clinton's chief confidant and campaign vice chair huma abedin has joined the long list of former clinton aides who have been called to testify on benghazi. lately, the hits just keep on coming and the brakes keep coming for hillary clinton who is set to testify herself this coming thursday. in just the past week, first we heard from a former committee staffer, alleging the investigation turned into a partisan witch-hunt against hillary clinton. then another house republican, new york congressman richard hanna, echoed what kevin mccarthy initially said in declaring that the benghazi panel was always intended to be a vehicle to hurt clinton, which prompted this response from committee chair trey gowdy. quote, there are seven members

of the benghazi committee who are intimately familiar with the work of the committee, the motives behind the work and the results of that work. congressman hanna is not one of them. gowdy was not there for abedin's testimony today. only three committee members total were there. one of them was the top democrat, elijah cummings, who made sure to highlight the admissions from mccarthy, hanna, and major pob liska. >> did the gentleman, congressman mccarthy, congressman hanna, and mr. pod iska tell the truth? that's the question. the question also becomes whether this is a taxpayer-funded effort to derail the candidacy of hillary clinton. >> we had planned to speak to republican congressman lin west

morland of georgia, who did show up to question abedin and to question her during her testimony today. he was going to be here in person with me. but he canceled on us just moments before the show. so let me bring in nbc's luke russert, who has been standing watch on the closed-door testimony today. luke, we should remind folks, it's not just the elected members of the committee that question. i assume it's a lot of staff that's doing the questioning. is that correct? >> reporter: that is correct. that's been the process throughout the duration of that committee, chuck. you have a lot of staffers on the committee who are lawyers or have some sort of intelligence understanding. what's been fascinating about this, it started at 10:00 a.m. and it's still going. huma abedin was actually just in the classified room downstairs, the house intelligence committee uses. he's been moved back upstairs. she's had four or five breaks

throughout the course of the day. this has been long, drawn-out testimony. -- i'm sorry, she's supposed to talk in a few seconds right behind me. as far as what she said, we have gotten some indication from the republican members you've mentioned, they said it was a productive session. when asked as to why she was brought before this committee, because she was not with hillary clinton on 9/11/12, the night of the benghazi attacks, they said she was a de facto head, second in command at the state department under hillary. she knows a lot of stuff, we want to talk to her about that. but cummings has been very quick to say this is political, tying it back to mccarthy and trying to say if it's somebody very close to hillary clinton, sheryl mills, blumenthal, abedin, then the press is alerted, they make a big spectacle and that's what you see here. what i think is interesting, if we want to play this forward,

huma abedin here, 10:00 a.m., still here on a friday at 5:30, could see the same thing from hillary clinton next thursday. an entire day of televised testimony, that's going to be quite a spectacle. >> it's interesting. they're taking her behind closed doors now, which means there's some part of this they don't want to be public, some national security stuff. i'm curious, what do you get the sense, are the republican half of this benghazi committee, how demoralized have they become by what richard hanna has said, kevin mccarthy has said, the lawsuit that was filed? do they feel as if a whole bunch of air has been let out of the balloon? >> i don't think they've recovered from the mccarthy gaffe. that was a gut-punch, and the reason why is because john boehner has gone out of his way, since the inception of this committee, to say that it was about the four dead americans who lost their lives in benghazi on that night, that it was not

political by any means. and mccarthy being so high-ranking in saying that so publicly really, really damaged the credibility of the committee. and then you throw in the ex-staffer who was disgruntled, throw in richard hanna, just a few days ago, it's been a 1-2-3 series of gut punches to them. dowdy is a former prosecutor, he's been out in front and saying, these people who say these things, they don't know what they're talking about. i've had conversations to put them in their place, saying that they are wrong. but look where they are now, chuck. hillary clinton next week can walk into that committee hearing and basically fight for a stalemate and walk out fine. and what does she have at her disposal? kevin mccarthy's comments, richard hanna's comments, she can run out the clock and that's from folks i've spoken to who know how the committee operates and folks who know the leadership, that's what they're most upset about, is that this opportunity they have to go after hillary clinton on

national tv, they've given her so many gifts to swat them back. and how will that play out, they're disappointed, they really are. >> and you said that it could go on all day. is it all going to be televised, or will they tell the cameras to shut off for part of it? >> it's unclear. i believe most of it will be televised. however, if you do get into that national security situation, like we just saw here with miss abedin, then they could be shut off and go to a separate room. but we have not gotten all the information about that at this time. all we know is that it will be long, that it could go on for hours upon hours. if it's televised like that, that goes back to some of the great old hearings from the '70s, chuck. >> that's right. we have a microphone out there. i just saw somebody test it. do we really think that miss abedin is going to make a statement, or is she just going to blow by the cameras?

>> well, if you look at the history of the clinton people that have come here to testify, sid blumenthal, he spoke to the cameras. sheryl mills, the chief of staff, spoke to the cameras. so i wouldn't be surprised if she did talk to camera. i can just tell you the few things she has said so far today, when pompio left the room, she was coming back into the room, they exchanged a handshake and said thank you for your testimony, she said, thank you sir. i asked her questions about it, if she was tired, she didn't answer any of them. she said you must be happy about the mets. she said i'm not a baseball fan, but i am happy about the mets. so she could at least hear what we were saying. >> well done, luke. we expect to hear something from h huma abedin in a minute as she's wrapping up her all-day testimony. coming up, we have big

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fight on its hands to replace outgoing, unpopular governor bobby jindal. next saturday's primaries will aim to narrow that field to two. david vitter is likely david vi likely to make it to the runoff. if he wins he would get to name his own replacement to the senate. and in kentucky now running to replace steve basher. >> along side distinguished diplomats and foreign service officers i have appreciated the time both members and committee staff today and i answered all their questions to the best of my ability. with that i will be making no further comments. thank you. >> as you expected a very quick statement to the media essentially uttering the facts of the day that she just had. obviously, if he went all day

long it also means that hillary clinton's testimony is going to go all day and maybe longer on the 22nd. let me go back to what we were going to talk about here. your political junky if you are watching this show. i'm a political junky and my next guest is also. he is the chief correspondent for morning consult. reed wilson. welcome to meet the press daily. long time viewer and guest. what is amazing three red states and democrats have a shot at winning in two of the three. >> it's not likely that they are going to win in louisiana mpt the only candidate they have in a four person field is not well known. he is a state representative against three republicans. the bad news is louisiana is a very republican state. every poll is showing david vitter who is supposed to be the

800 pound gorilla in the race is very unpopular after months of attacks. >> he never got over it. he is likely to get into the run off which makes him potentially the only republican that could lose. >> the question is who gets into the run off with him? is it the democrat who has a real shot or one of the two republicans who might be favored in a general election when they wouldn't have been. >> kentucky is the other competitive race. jack conway has been here before. he always looks like he is going to win and then loses. it happens in a senate seat and house seat. >> matt beven is running an absolutely terrible campaign that the republican governors association has taken money out of the state. the wildcard is an independent candidate named drew curtis. he is polling around 10% right

probably from jack conway voters. >> very quickly, what is the best ballot initiative we should follow on election night? >> follow ohio for two reasons. redistricting reform is on the ballot. if that succeeds you will see it in a lot of other states. the second thing is something you will definitely see, marijuana legalization. it is on the ballot in ohio. there are seven different competing initiatives gathering signatures in california. >> i thought they would do that in '16. thank you, sir. the lid is up next. mitt romney is now weighing in on what donald trump just said again. stay tuned. why put up with that? but the quicksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. real simple. i'm talking easy like-a- walk-in-the-park, nothing-to-worry-about, man-that-feels-good simple. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back

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some of the things he said particularly about hispanics will be problematic certainly for him if he were to go to the next stage but for whoever our nominee is. he could probably remain as a shadow over their campaign. >> that was mitt romney worrying about the long term impact on donald trump. time for the lid. welcome to both of you. susan, it's interesting a shadow on the campaign. if you recall donald trump's plane was in the back drop of every obama attack ad towards the last month of the campaign against romney.

he knows the shadow of him is not a good one. >> we have been so wrong about every aspect of donald trump, what if donald trump is a good thing because he has gotten a lot of excitement, because he has generated enthusiasm and attracted enormous attention. i don't think they get held responsible for everything he says. >> i think it depends who the nominee is. what wing of the party the nominee comes from? is it the cruz wing? >> he said jeb bush and rubio is a different story. he compared trump's comments. he was saying he felt like it put over the candidacy sdpmpt whether i want to change subjects. i had the dnc chair who exploded on debbie wasserman schultz.

>> this is an open revolt. it was an effort to get rid of her a couple of months ago. this is the story of broad dissatisfaction that is hard to ignore. >> if you are in the party -- this is barack obama's decision. this is something the white house the last thing they want to-do is be involved in the 2016 race. >> do you replace her or is there a way to layer her in some way if hillary is the nominee. there is a question about her political skills, as well. if he is not helping hillary win then it is a question of competence. this week was embarrassing to everybody in the party. >> i heard that obama was willing to replace her and she was not ready to do that. >> look what happened before the debate. public scene over whether vice

chairman can come to the debate. what a wasted opportunity. >> made the point that the debates, should be more of them. happy friday. thank you much. that's it for us for this week. i'll see you sunday on meet the press. peter alexander picks up our coverage right now. right now on msnbc live donald trump and jeb bush feuding over new comments about the 9/11 terror attacks. what he said about president george w. bush. new details emerging about lamar odom's condition. the promising signs of recovery. one of joe biden's advisers blasted supporters laying out a potential strategy. that is the topic of the poll question. has joe biden missed his chance to make a