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violence continues to spiral there. we'll go live to jerusalem shortly. we're lucky to have a reporter here with us this morning who knows that region better than anyone. here at home, is winter here already? the first snow has fallen in michigan and even in new york state. with more expected in parts of the northeast, whatever happened to the fall? plus the internet rejoices as larry david appears on "snl" last night as none other than his dopplganger bernie sanders. it was pretty, pretty, pretty good. but we begin this morning with vice president biden being honored for his human rights work last night in new york by the greek orthodox work. here is what he said. >> we saw early on, he saw early on that we need to combat climate change, preserve the

earth, our gift from god. his all holiness continues to do what we should be doing right here in america, in our political system. he reaches out. he seeks consensus like we used to, he promotes peace. freedom of religion is essential and should be protected everywhere and around the world, the regions where we see the most strife and conflict are almost those divided among ethnic and religious lines. and where there's division, too often there's a ripe ground for extremists to sow havoc. >> now the vice president didn't address that possible presidential run but after the speech, he was met with chants of "run, joe, run." joining me now is nbc's kristen welker who has a scoop of her own to share with us. what have you got? >> reporter: hey richard good

morning to you. vice president bidden have been mum about his intentions. there are big leaks within his camp including yesterday a source saying that he had a 20-minute phone conversation with the president of the powerful union, the international association of firefighters, harold shakeburger. according to a source familiar with the call they talked about strategy, infrastructure and fund-raising and biden left with the impression is he likely going to run and also said this is important, that he has to make that final gut decision. now if vice president biden were to get into this race, getting the endorsement of this union would be a very big deal, a key constituency, secretary clinton has been courting unions and at this point the iaff not planning to endorse her. all of this coming as secretary clinton is coming off of one of her strongest weeks yet. she had that dominant debate performance. she saw a bump in her polls because of it. she's now facing a critical test on thursday.

she's going to testify before the house committee investigating the attack against the u.s. consulate in benghazi. this is such a critical test, richard, that secretary clinton is leaving the campaign trail to prepare for it. she'll get tough questions about benghazi and e-mails. this could be a chance for her to turn the page to some extent on both issues. of course vice president biden watching owl of this very closely as he inches closer to a decision. sources close to him say a decision is imminent. we're just watching and waiting. richard? >> kristen, great reporting there on the firefighters, my thanks to you, at the white house. >> reporter: thank you. >> msnbc reporter jane timm and political analyst and columnist for "the daily beast" jonathan altar and anchor "the hot list" amy holmes. >> good morning. >> john the firefighters news today, does it make it more likely joe biden is getting in on schaitberger making himself

important? >> he's very experienced in politics. he's been close to joe biden for a long time. this is an indication that the odds of joe biden running just went up fairly significantly. we've been hearing this kind of thing for the last few days. it's a real turnaround because after tuesday's debate it looked like there was no groundswell, no opening for joe biden in this campaign, and so the conventional wisdom became how is he going to run? and then within just 24 hours, the biden people let the political press know he really might run, and i think we're going to find out this week for sure, and i put the odds pretty significant that he's going to make this campaign and it will be a very dramatic thing >> feels more than just a tease. might run really means likely to run. >> yes. this is something he's done in the last few days that he had

not done before, which is to have serious conversations about what it would take to run for president, and when you're doing that with important union leaders, it's too much of a tease for him to go too far down that road. >> right. >> and then pull back and say he's not doing it. >>:o, not the only news we have from the presidential campaign. amy, i want to play you some tape of ted cruz on "meet the press" this morning, talking about the trump campaign and his relation to it. let's play that right now. >> i think donald's campaign has been immensely beneficial for our campaign, and the reason is he's framed the central issue of this republican primary as who will stand up to washington? well, the natural follow-up if that's the question is who actually has stood up to washington? as voters get more and more educated, study the candidates, listen to the candidates in person, i think that's why we're seeing the grassroots momentum that we're seeing is

conservatives are coalescing behind our campaign. >> he's spelling out here this idea that the trump campaign is laying the foundation for him to take over. is that true? >> i think that's ted cruz's hope that he could peel off some of trump's supporters and particularly if trump imploedes but he makes a point about the outsider appeal in the election cycle, even the democratic side with bernie sanders, listening to ted cruz there, i have to wonder is he auditioning to be president of the united states or donald trump's running mate, and you see throughout the campaign season that ted cruz has tried to stay close to donald trump and not criticize the man. >> jane, you had lots of great conversation with donald trump on the campaign trail. what's donald trump going to make of this explicit idea that cruz is putting out there. thank you very much, donald, but your people are going to be my people soon. >> every time donald trump draws a contrast between him and anybody elected or has a brother

who is president, it makes his numbers go up. he looks more and more like an outsider and i think cruz's problem here is with trump's fans, they want somebody who is as far from government as you can possibly get and everyone does remember that cruz did shut down the government. he's a part of that. he's a part of the dysfunction that we've seen and trump's followers aren't going to jump as quick lays cruz might like, as amy says. >> we'll shift gears now to israel, where authorities say five palestinians were shot yesterday after a series of stabbings and attempted atacks on israelis. they say at least four palestinians died including a 16-year-old girl who attacked a female police officer. three israelis were also injured. for the latest we turn to nbc's bill neely in jerusalem. >> reporter: good morning. john kerry will meet prime minister benjamin netanyahu in germany later this week as israel reels after another day of attempted murders. all the attackers were shot, four killed, one injured, all

were teenagers, and these attacks are becoming so frequent now that people here are beginning to use the word "uprising." stabbed but alive an israeli soldier survives an attack by a palestinian teenager. it was the fifth of the day. here an israeli civilian in white holds the gun he's just used to kill an 18-year-old who police say attacked him with a knife. most of the attackers are from east jerusalem and most are palestinian teenagers with israeli i.d. cards, free to move around with no criminal or terrorist record. for their families, the attackers one was only 13, are heroes. israel disagrees. >> he's not innocent. he tried to kill, murder, knife to death an innocent israeli youngster. >> reporter: israel says they're terrorists. >> terrorists, 13 years and 15 years terrorists? i don't know what to say. they are children. >> reporter: new york city's

mayor saw victims of the attacks and stands by israel. >> when you are going through pain, we feel pain, too. when you're under attack, we feel under attack, too. >> reporter: amid the daily stabbings, daily clashes, palestinians convinced israel is eroding their rights, some marched for peace last night in jerusalem, and called for calm. that seems a long way off. well there's no sign of that, because israel is promising what it calls an iron fist. some palestinian groups are calling on teenagers to keep up what almost appeared to be suicide stap ibbings. john kerry will have the meetings with benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas. israel is spiraling into a conflict that no one for now seems able to stop. back to you. >> thanks to bill neely in jerusalem. joining us to discussion the situation is special correspondent martin fletchers

who new book "the war reporter" is now on sale. martin, good morning. >> good morning. >> can anyone tamp down this violence, israeli or palestinian side or is this really out of control of the authorities in. >> i'd say it's out of control of the authorities even though they're trying hard on both sides. the problem is the incitement coming from outside, hamas in gaza and from within israel the islamic brotherhood in the north of israel from nazareth but also this frustration and anger, deep, deep anger among palestinians especially young palestinians which every so often reaches a peak. bill neely mentioned is this another intefadeh? the first was sticks and stones, the second was suicide bombers and guns. . is so far knives and cars driving into people. >> when news organizations go out there and put the headlines is this the start of the third intefadeh, would you say it is? >> the first says it went on

long enough, the same with the second. it is a really genuine uprising by angry palestinians and the question is whether the leadership on both sides can stop it or your alternative and we're seeing secretary of state kerry talking about bringing in the two sides together to achieve that. >> can the region really endure another area of instability? it is already so destabilized with isis and everything else going on, syrian civil war, if the palestinian situation flares up again. >> it can deal with another region of instability. the area has been so unstable for so long. we always talk about the middle east conflict as the conflict between israel and the palestinians. there's many conflicts, other conflicts in the middle east. this is the kernel, this is the gem that people focus on. this is always called the middle east conflict so if it does explode again, i can't say where it's going to lead but it's just going to be more and more problems for the united states,

too, to be part of the solution. >> martin, i wonder whether this might be a little bit different. your thoughts on this, because this is what you could call viral violence. lot of these kids might not be well-known in the you state, they have smartphones or they have phones where they can see images that are being in some cases doctored and that is creating incitement that the authorities can't control. isn't it right that john kerry could do wondrous things and it wouldn't make any difference because the kids are not listening to their palestinian leadership. they're acting spontaneously. >> that's exactly right. they're listening to each other actually and social media is playing a huge role in this. there's always incitement. last time it was al jazeera. we were saying al jazeera is replaying on a loop these terrible scenes of violence. we're hearing about facebook and instagram and yes, there's a lot of, if you follow the players

involved, there's a huge amount of incitement at the moment and the problem of course is that because now the pictures out of the control of people like us, big organizations, it's out of the control of the individuals, the young people, and they're beginning their videos on the palestinian side palestinians lying in a pool of blood. they don't show that fact that palestinian was attacking israeli soldiers. it works. >> we saw mayor de blasio out there, a sort of gimme for him to say we stand with israelis as the mayor of new york but i imagine republican candidates will come in quickly here and talk about what they consider to be president obama's record, track record, weak track record in their view with the israeli prime minister. >> certainly, republicans will be taking this on as a campaign issue, big supporters of israel and president obama's own statement of trying to create daylight between the united states and israel, and it appears to not be working if we are, in fact, going into a third

intefadeh. i want to ask a question about palestinian leadership. the palestinian center for survey and research they found last month two-thirds of palestinians would like to see mahmoud abbas step down. does that make this situation even more dangerous? >> abu mazen is under great pressure from the street. he's saying on the leadership level to the israelis and to the americans and to the jordanians and egyptians who are involved yes, we need to control the violence, and he's sending a security services out to do that. at the same time when he's speaking in arabic to the people he's calling on them to, inciting, i have to use the word inciting them, too, talking about jews visiting the holy places with their "filthy feet" soiling the islamic holy place. >> pure blood being spilled as martyrs. >> exactly. he's trying to stay in power. he's very unpopular among the palestinians. outside ramallah, most of gaza is against him, most of the west

bank is against him. he's an 08-year-old man trying to hang onto power. >> sadly we have to wrap it up there. thanks for joining us, martin fletcher. please check out his book, a must read. >> thank you very much indeed. still ahead the real scam behind the blockbuster film "american hustle." actress jennifer lawrence speaks out. and next, america's war in afghanistan will get a new commander in chief. stay with us. more "stay" per roll. more "sit" per roll. more "who's training who" per roll. bounty is two times more absorbent. so one roll of bounty can last longer than those bargain brands. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty. the long-lasting quicker picker upper.

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for a president who built his first campaign against the war in iraq, and then went on it win the nobel peace prize, this week brought a major reversal that could rewrite his legacy. after years of promising to bring our troops home, president obama announced that he would leave 5,500 troops in

afghanistan when he leaves office that would hand over america's longest running war to a third president. >> so here you have a situation where we have clarity by what our mission is, we've got a partner who wants to work with us. we're going to continually make adjustments to ensure that we give the best possibilities for success and i suspect that we will continue to evaluate this going forward, as will the next president. >> that means the war in afghanistan will be a campaign issue yet again, the fourth time in 14 years. on friday, hillary clinton was asked if she would pledge to bring the troops home from afghanistan as president. >> i will not sit here today and say what i would do upon taking office because again, we want to bring our troops home. we certainly don't want them engaged in on the ground combat. i can't predict where things will be in january 2017 but i

support the president's decision. >> republican presidential candidates were also generally supportive of the president with some saying that more troops would be needed. >> i agree with that announcement, because frankly if you look at what happened with iraq, we shyou have never been in iraq in the first place but when we took the troops out that was the end of that. >> they need that in order to be the base for their operations there, so unless there's a good reason to change that, i don't see any immediate change. >> i'm pleased the president has not worried about a campaign promise six years ago. conditions change and i think he made the right decision to keep troops on the ground but it looks like it's political. cut it in half and off we go. >> i'm glad he stopped the drawdown but it's not a sufficient number. in fact, here's what people need to understand. there reaches a point where the numbers get so low the only thing they're able to do is spend all day defending themselves. >> a single lone republican strongly denounced the move to keep troops in afghanistan. >> i think it's a mistake. it's also not what our founding fathers intended.

our founding fathers intended that when we were to go to war, that congress would debate this and this would be approved or disapproved by congress. i don't know what our mission is. >> joining me now is mcclatchy's jonathan landate. good morning. >> good morning. >> we started out 100,000 troops in afghanistan. we're talking about, the president's talking about giving the best chances of success with just 5,500. is that realistic? >> i don't think so, no, not at all. i think the president has become a captive of his own campaign promises, when he first ran for office. what this shows is, you know, he did, he was elected based in part on his promise to get out of afghanistan, but you can't make a political promise here in the united states and expect a country, you know the situation in afghanistan to obey what the president wants. the fact is that we're seeing higher levels of violence now in

afghanistan and this year than we've seen before, higher levels of casualty. the taliban is now present in at least one-fifth of the country, according to the united nations. we've seen this surge going on. we've seen violence unprecedented taliban operation in northern afghanistan, the takeover for more than two weeks of the city of kunduz. the fighting going on outside that city even as we speak here, and so i think, and then when you add in the fact that we saw the fall of mosul in iraq and the islamic state, i think the president has been forced to adjust because of the situation on the ground. >> jonathan, if you're going to take on the islamic state though, if that's what afghanistan is now about rather than al qaeda and bin laden, then why not deal with the islamic state in its center of power? why stick with afghanistan? >> well the fact is the islamic state is still a very small factor in afghanistan.

it is a growing factor because it's composed of a lot of disillusioned, hardline taliban moderate leaders who are opposed to any kind of peace negotiations, which is where some people think this is going. i don't believe that's where it's going to go in the near future at all. you also have this, what appears to be a major buildup of al qaeda again in parts of afghanistan. there was an afghan american operation against al qaeda training camps in afghanistan over the last several weeks, and you also have this major resurgence of the taliban. the fact is that in all of these years that the united states has been trying to tame this insurgency and put afghanistan on a track towards, you know, democracy, there's one part of the american strategy that is absolutely missing and that's pakistan. that's the need to try and

compel the pakistanis to stop giving the taliban the afghan taliban sanctuaries in their country and allowing their leadership to live there and plan and strategize there as well and that has been missing and still missing. >> i want to bring in jane here in the studio. we've been at war in afghanistan 14 years and counting, vietnam was just ten years, "just" ten years. iraq eight years. you're on the campaign trail. is there voter fatigue for the kinds of things as complex, long running war as jonathan was explaining, are the voters really up for this? >> there is some of that fatigue. there's that kind of exhaustion of having our men overseas and our men and women overseas and this really does change the metric for how people ask questions on the campaign trail. those voters in iowa will be saying what are you doing with the 5,500 soldiers? is it enough? it will make people take a different stand on the campaign trail because they're going into office supposedly with a war.

>> jonathan, just briefly, how does this war end, when the voters ask how do we get out of here, with the new candidates, what is the quick answer? >> i can't tell you. you know, the american strategy right now is to try and keep a stalemate going so that they can force peace negotiations to take place. i don't see that happening any time soon. the taliban have been emboldened by what they've done over the last several weeks. new taliban leader getting enormous boost out of this, a great deal of prestige out of this following the leadership battle after the death of mullah omar. i don't see this coming to a close any time soon. we're still in south korea after more than 60 years, so unfortunately i don't see any kind of prospect of this ending any time soon. >> i'm not quite sure that presidential candidates want to have to admit that to voters about you my thanks to jonathan for joining us this morning. >> my pleasure. still ahead, even jennifer lawrence has problems negotiating her salary.

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world. jennifer lawrence weighed in this week reacting to the 2014 sony hack which revealed she made much less than her male co-stars for the movie "american hustle." lawrence writes "i didn't get mad at sony. i got mad at myself. i failed as a negotiator because i gave up early." later she writes "could there still be a lingering habit of trying to express our opinions in a certain way that doesn't offend or scare men?" remember that lawrence won an academy award for her stunning role in "silver linings playbook" by the same director, david o. russell. one of the highest paid actresses in hollywood admits she failed pay equity in the workplace. the two women running for the most powerful office in the world. where does the conversation go next? for more we now turn to a woman who knows a lot about the fight

for equal pay, and knows how to win it, lily ledbetter, womens rights activist and namesick of the lily ledbetter pay act. good morning. >> good morning. >> what do you make of jennifer lawrence's comments there, her essay? >> i was very proud of her, for her statement. she got a lot of attention and she hit the nail on the head. she is exactly right and most everything she said, although she probably negotiated very well, it's up to that employer to treat women and men fairly, and equitably. that's the law. the law states that men and women are to be paid equally for the same work. that law was passed as we all know in 1963. jennifer lawrence, though, with her status, she got a lot of attention and i'm so proud she did, because this is in every job level. it's in the medical field.

it's in college. it's in any field you want to go in. women are unequally paid for work. >> lilly, as you know, the white house published a report on the 50th anniversary of that equal pay act that you referenced showing that women earn only 78 cents for every dollar a man earns. now, that was a few years ago. do you think the conversation has changed since then? >> not enough. not enough. and see one of the problems that a lot of the young people don't realize and even some of the workers in the middle time of their life, this goes on for the rest of your life, because raises are based on what your salary is, your retirements, your contributory retirements, your 401(k)s, your social security, all of those items goes on and are based on your salary. so it's critical and very

important that women get equal pay from the get-go and the men understand it today. >> lilly, i want to bring in our panel. amy i'd like to play for you something from actually i'm going to read to you i think, carly fiorina on the lilly ledbetter act says there are plenty of laws in place today, she's a quote to cnn "there are plenty of laws in place today that a woman can look to if she's truly discriminated against at work, where she's actually earning less for the same job as her male counterpart. so the paycheck fairness act, the liy ledbetter fair pay act, these are tokens. they're gestures. they don't truly help women advance." that's pretty harsh words. do you think that's where republican women stand as a consensus view? >> i think many republican women do and there are laws to protect women from discrimination. getting back to jennifer lawrence's point which is crucial, she said she gave up

too early that she wasn't as tough in her negotiations and let's remember, she wasn't personally negotiating, her agent was but she was willing to take a pay cut and amy pascal, the ceo of sony if somebody wants to work for less i'll oblige them. she's not going to hand out money for the sisterhood. the message for young women so important stop trying to be a pleaser, be willing to be tough and ask for what you want. >> lilly, i have to bring you back on the carly fiorina quote. she says the lilly ledbetter fair pay act is a token, a gesture. what do you think? >> no, sir. the lilly ledbetter fair pay act is the same law actually we had previous to the ruling in the ledbetter case. it made it possible for people like myself to follow discrimination charge if they knew that they were being discriminated against, whether they're paid based on sex or nationality or whatever the case

is. the law was put back so that people can file a charge and it's necessary, because so many people was getting denied the right, because in my case, my employer said if i discuss my pay, i wouldn't have a job. i had no way to find out how much i was paid until someone let me know anonymously what he was paid, and carly fiorina is wrong. it's not a myth. this is fact. women are unequally paid. sure, we have these laws. i had the law, but the problem is, laws must be enforced, and the company i work for have government contracts, and i just felt sure that they would have to be audited and checked in order to get these government contracts, but what i learned, they did not. now today, they would, because in 2014, president obama signed another bill that requires

anyone who gets government contracts, they will adhere to federal laws and guidelines. that's another protection in this country. there are so few protections for women. >> okay, thank you, lilly ledbetter, thanks for joining thus morning. >> thank you, sir. coming up, bernie sanders got the full snl treatment last night. if you missed it, you'll want to stay tuned for that. and next donald trump is breaking all the rules in the republican playbook. how will the party faithful handle his latest hit on the pu pu bush administration? the orders were rushing in. i could feel our deadlines racing towards us. we didn't need a loan. we needed short-term funding fast. building 18 homes in 4 ½ months? that was a leap. but i knew i could rely on american express to help me buy those building materials. amex helped me buy the inventory i needed. our amex helped us fill the orders. just like that. another step on the journey. will you be ready when growth presents itself?

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so you stay steady ahead. i think i'm much more competent than all of them when you talk about george bush. say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. if you look -- >> hold on, you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president. don't blame him or don't blame him but he was president. the world trade center came down during his reign. >> never holds back what he really thinks, does he?

as we've seen time and again, donald trump isn't afraid to challenge his own party or the gop's long-held principles. like that one about the bush administration, keeping america safe. jeb bush meanwhile as the establishment standard bearer and proud brother has spent his campaign running on and not away from his brother's, george's national security record. former governor tweeting in response to trump's bloombergber view "we were attacked and my brother kept us safe." trump doesn't appear to see a downside to picking this fight with the republican establishment and their top candidate for president, which begs the question in a campaign year where outsiders are in the lead and rules of engagement don't seem to apply, does this mean one of the golden rules of politics over the last 15 years is now obsolete? are we actually witnessing the end of 9/11 politics? going to turn to my panel here, john. 9/11 politics has been with us very powerfully for a long time

here. is it open season on the kinds of things that republicans campaign successfully on before? >> i hope it is, and this is one of donald trump's great contributions to this campaign, whatever else he's doing that we object to, he is calling out the bush people for orwellian deceptive historically amnesiatic thinking. for jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe is not true. facts are stubborn things, as other politicians have reminded us. not only did it happen on his watch, but there was something called the hart-redman report, senators hart and redman tried to get to the white house in early 2001 to say we are about to get attacked. they'd been studying it for years. they couldn't even get in the door to meet with the national security adviser, two former united states senators. then over the summer of 2001, bush and crawford, texas gets a

report, al qaeda planning attacks in the united states. >> right. >> they were warned. the idea that he kept us safe is not true. just one other thing on this. that doesn't mean he was responsible for the attacks. so when the republicans try to counter attack on this, they say oh you're blaming bush. nobody's blaming bush. just saying stop telling us he kept us safe when it's not true. >> and jane, you know trump pretty well by this point. you won't be surprised to know he's tweeting out continuing this line. let's pull up some of the tweets this morning. he talks about jeb bush should stop trying to defend his brother and focus on his own shortcomings and how to fix them. also, rubio is hitting him hard. shortly after that there was another one because he doesn't stop. jeb, why did your brother attack and destabilize the middle east by attacking iraq, when there were no weapons of mass destruction? bad info? he's not going to stop going after jeb bush, is he? >> no and the more jeb bush

blusters and gets mad and turns to him on the debate stage and says he kept our country safe, the more he leaves the establishment gop scrambling and the more his numbers skyrocket because he's not part of the establishment. you look at the polls, government trust all-time lows, everyone wants anything but what we have. >> donald trump trying to reach you? [ laughter ] amy, there wasn't that many people jumping to jeb bush and george w. bush's defense. >> they're his competitors. why would they? >> does this mean things have changed in the republican party in terms of the debate about george w. bush's legacy in. >> i think it's moved on from george bush's legacy. if you remember in the fox debate jeb bush turned to donald trump and said i you know one thing my brother kept this country safe, that was one of the biggest applause moments of the night. the republican party is focusing what are we going to do about vladimir putin and his rising threat in the middle east and

crimea and ukraine what, about isis and pmestthetizing throughout the middle east. republicans are focused on president obama's failures, not george bush's. >> jane, who other sacred cows can donald trump go after? >> any that he can find. he'll keep throwing bombs as much as he can around the party and getting people really angry because it makes him look good and he's the political tough one on this race. >> jeb bush is not going to get nominated, my takeaway, not just because he's down in the polls. trump is going to be in this all the way, and every time jeb bush tries to say that his brother kept us safe, donald trump is going to remind voters no his brother not only didn't keep us safe but he's the one that cost us $1 trillion by going to war in iraq, which trump was against and if trump had been for the war in iraq, he wouldn't be able to make this argument. because he was against it from the get-go, he's in a very strong position to keep trump,

keep bush from being the nominee. >> quickly as a messaging point i think donald trump, with all of this, stepped all over what was actually a very positive story for him on friday, that cnbc backed down and that donald trump had the power to make the mainstream donald trump had the power to make the main treatment media another buga into of the republican party. >> republican voters were cheering donald trump on. something interesting coming up next. bernie sanders supporters want to curb their enthusiasm after watching last night's qugsz saturday night live" we'll strain explain that joke right after this. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business.

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>> that was the incomparison larry david nailing it as bernie sanders on "saturday night live" that is night. i think we can all agree that's the enpoint for everyone in this campaign. you are never going to see bernie sanders and larry david in the same room at the same time because they are in fact the same person. this is our fanning up and catching up point of the show. let's move to why the former dean is ruining students. she says although students were accomplished many were incapable of taking care of themselves. you have children in college. >> helicopter parents seem to get worse every year. i was on campus in indianapolis just a couple of weeks ago. a dean there was telling me that she gets calls from parents, will you about in and wake up my son? you know, and they say to the

parent, he's got to learn how to wake himself up to go to parents. >> you would think. >> the parents truly don't get they need to let go. these baby boomer parents are so used to micro managing and controlling everything they are not preparing their kids for adulthood. >> we have to talk about steven glass. new york times story paying harper's for his discredits work. jen, you are too young to know his work. published from his magazine article in 1998. he was a rising star in journalism in the late 1990s, and there was that movie. radio determination? >> redemption for harper's? i guess. all these years they want to scrape back their $10,000. >> i guess it's his plan. he keeps apologizing to people. >> he is on the map for being

that guy. >> was he ever able to become a lar lawyer. >> no, he tried, he works on a paralocal. little law firm and it says not a lawyer because he doesn't want to get in trouble for misrepresenting himself. >> continuing our animal theme, nbc new york spotted a kangaroo on staten island. a four foot marsupial wandered away from its owner who was visiting new york. think about that. you visit new york, and you take your kangaroo with you. why do people travel with their pets. >> we have to keep that phrase working, only in new york, so we bring our exotics with news i live in the suburbs, and we have deer all over montclair new jersey. there are also bears. they have to have bear hunts. >> but you don't pack them up in the car on a road trip.

>> in the crowded east you don't have these animals. i was hoping that the kangaroo would breed. i prefer to jam on my brakes for a kangaroo than a deer. >> i'd like to thank jane tim, jonathan alter and amy holmes. and thank you for getting up with us today. up next is melissa harris-perry. please stay tuned. we'll see you next weekends. have a great week. thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure.

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this morning, my question, mr. vice president, what's up? plus, another video of an unarmed teen shot dead by police. and tracey morgan's triumphant return to "saturday night live." first, the politics behind the policing of a pumpkin patch. good morning, i'm melissa harris-perry. and if you haven't done it yet, you have jt