for inmates to survive, they have to make friends. they have to make alliances for security purposes. the problem is, they're surrounded by people who aren't for trustworthy. so here's the dilemma. you have to make friends for protection. but they can be the friends that end up killing you.

>> finding true friendship in prison might be a dicey proposition. but at the spring creek correctional center in alaska, we found a pair of cell mates that seem more like frat house brothers rather than inmates at a maximum security penitentiary. >> look at the nugget, dude. >> mine is better. >> whatever. >> when we met richard evans and roger boshier. >> i was in the hole for tattooing. >> who were you tattooing on again? >> actually, got caught tattooing on this guy right here. this is the one we caught got doing here. got ran up on while doing this, gun in hand. oh, you're going to bust us really? for real. >> thank you, gentlemen. thank you. >> next thing i know i do 14

months in the hole. he hangs out here coming to the window, when you coming out? i'm like bill right out. >> you sure you don't want any more? >> we've developed a really nice relationship. >> do anything for this guy. >> same. >> anything. >> this is my twin sister. >> older sister. >> i'm glad you came back. >> but this bond also has a dark side. the cell mates share a strong appetite for methamphetamine. >> what am i in for? cooking meth. in 2002 i get pulled over, i have a whole lab in the car, everything. they pull me over for a traffic stop and they say, oh, look what we got here. cooking meth. what a surprise. i was cook it, dealing it, doing it, anything i could do with it i was. i can't lie. i like it. you know what i'm saying? the meth.

and the whole lifestyle that it comes with. it's like living like a rock star. going to clubs, you know, naked girls dancing. oh, what's up? yeah, baby, that's right. >> never going to sleep. >> bosheers landed in prison after a crime to support his meth habit landed him 18 years. >> i went from cocaine to heroin on up. just been a speed freak for years now. >> my whole life has been dope. dope dope dope. i was a crack head. i know crack is disgusting. >> i was a heroin addict. >> i was a crack head for two years of my life. my wife left me and took my kids because crack. i thought crack is bad, i'll do meth. meth is better. so, you know -- and then i ended up here. >> go figure. >> so i know meth is pretty addictive. how do you deal with it here? >> here at jail? well, we don't deal with it here. >> we work out. >> we work out and we build it up to break it down.

>> in fact, we had first met boshears a few days earlier right before he shaved his head. >> i work out pretty much seven days a week. every once in awhile i take a day off. it's just part of my program. this is every morning i come out and do this to feel like i've done something productive. start out the day right. >> while boshears and evans have seemed to gain their health in prison, they told us this might all be temporary. >> i'm going to try and get out and do the right thing, but i really can't say i'm going to get out, i'm going to get high. i'm not going to lie. i love doing dope. it's the first thing i'm going to do. i'm going to go see my mom and then get high. >> so presumably you'll be back together again. >> i've got six and a half years left. i'm trying to do something positive working out, going to

school. i can't even say what i'm going to do yet. it's going to be six and a half years. i mean, yeah. i love getting high. that's all i've been doing for half my life. next on "lockup raw" -- >> i hate cops. they're diabolical. they're petty. >> the sheet pans are thin and sharp on edge. >> they work side by side in a kitchen stocked with weapons.

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essential to keeping the peace. >> we let our guard down for a moment, we stop observing and tension can rise. we could have a volatile situation here. in the blink of an eye, it can change. >> we saw first hand what the lieutenant meant. at one point we caught him joking around with an inmate. >> does it qualify as a real man to wear shorts with legs like that on the track? >> that's right. >> i've got about 20 years. >> i'll carry you. i'll put you on my back and take you through. >> a piggy back ride? a piggy back ride? >> that's all. >> but only moments later when two inmates flash nazi signs in front of him and our camera, the lieutenant was in no joking mood. >> come here. you two, come here. what building you in? go to five and tell them you are going home. go to one and tell them you are going home.

you don't do that on my yard. you know that. if i catch you out here and don't go home, i'm going to look for you. go home. >> when it comes to inmates' feelings about constructional staff, our staff has heard a wide range. we met christopher inside a heavily guarded cell. >> you give respect, you get respect. a lot of guys say they don't treat us right. at some times they don't. it's prison, it's not disneyland. >> but an inmate at another california prison has another view of the c.o.s. >> i hate cops. they're diabolical and petty. they present to the public they're law and order and this and that. but in here they stab you in the back, have false writeups. they want to keep us in here to make money. it's all about money. >> there is one place, however, where trust is put to the ultimate test. it's the priss kitchen.

>> everything down here could be made into a potential weapon. those are thin and sharp on the edges. it only takes one guy to pick one up and cut my head off. >> we met officer epperson in california. armed only with pepper spray and a baton, he's the lone officer responsible for supervising the inmate kitchen staff. >> i have six, seven inmates back here now. i've got one sitting on the line. i've got four or five cops out that door. that door is locked. there's only one dude out there we the key. you have to trust to a certain extent. they have no reason to assault me. unless they're totally pissed off or i disrespect them. >> among the inmates epperson places trust in is the number two cook carter. >> murder. >> what's your sentence? >> 51 to life. >> it's interesting. sometimes there's this dynamic in prison when you're interviewing somebody.

if there's a corrections officer and an inmate together, they'll pretty much watch their p's and q's. they'll tell you into the camera what the other guy wants to hear. when we met carter hill, we got some brutal honesty that day in the kitchen. >> i don't know if y'all going to print this but when i first came to the pin like '82, they had guards. then later on they had c.o.s. now you got gang members in green suits. >> but hill was willing to make an exception for officer epperson. >> this man here, he's fair. he treats me like a human being. that's a rare occurrence here. he's all right. i can't say anything more than that. i may not be able to walk out that door. but he all right. you know? >> i give these inmates nothing more than what the state say they have coming. if i can give it to them, i'll give it to them. they don't have it coming, i don't give it.

but because i give him what's coming, nine times out of ten, i won't be the staff member that gets assaulted. >> we knew they hadn't been working together very long, but as we rolled tape, we realized these guys were getting to know each other. >> tell the truth. i'm a butt hole. put it out there. >> they were joking. they were establishing a rapport with one another. >> his coworkers, they look different because he treats us human. you know what i mean? in they eyes, he's a bad guy. >> but respect never trumps security. every knife, fork, and other utensil in this kitchen is accounted for prior to and after each shift. >> before i let them go back to their cells, i reaccount and make sure all the metal is there. if it's not there, strip them down and find that metal. because now that's weapons stock. >> besides working together in the kitchen, there's one other time inmates and staff have

close contact in less than secure circumstances. it's during a medical emergency. >> be advised. a man down. >> our cameras were at california san quentin state prison when officers received word that is 20-year-old inmate was suffering severe chest pains. >> the thing you have to realize about san quentin is that this is a -- this prison was built prior to the civil war and the cells are stacked five stories high. there are no elevators. so of course the emergency that we were covering, it was on the fifth floor. so not only did we have to haul our stuff up there, but so did the responding correctional officers. >> up on the firfth tier, officers tend to the inmate in his cell. >> you're going to have to take

deep breaths. i know you might be in pain, but you have to try. >> moments later, paramedics arrive on the tier. >> the paramedics had to make the five-story climb as well. and it's difficult to respond right away because of that. but the bigger challenge, though, was getting the inmate out of his cell and back down all those stairs. >> hospital door. be advised. we have inmate on stretcher en route. >> the officers and paramedics did a really great job of getting him down using the handrail to support the stretcher. it was pretty impressive how swiftly they were able to move him down. >> and sometimes the effort is all for nothing. >> it happens where a guy, you know, might decide he wants some fresh air, take a trip to the hospital. and he might be my foot hurts and we got to take them.

>> saefrg an emergency for them. saying i have back problems and the nurses say we can't find anything wrong with him. and the guy goes back to his house. but within that time period, you've wasted an hour. just so he can get some fresh air. >> on this day, the emergency is legitimate. >> does that make pain? >> they took an ekg. that turned out fine. and it turns out he's possibly got some chest problems from a trauma as a child that are still reoccurring. >> the inmate was treated and returned to his cell. meanwhile, responding officers returned to their normal duties. >> you'll get a lot of that. up next -- >> we try and have a disciplined environment, but we also try to be able to commingle. >> "lockup's" most memorable warden reaches out to his

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there's our old saying that you can get more flies with sugar than salt. >> i got possession of a knife case in september. >> but then you have to realize, too, that the inmates that are here, they're not here for going to church. a lot of them have preyed on other people. >>warden culliver would tell it like it is. he became a warden and was down there in the trenches. >> you look ragged. every time i see you you look ragged. you don't try to do no better. you look like you been working all night and need to shave. >> i have. i'm a slave up there in that kitchen. >> he cared about his inmates. and he wanted them to do well. and it pissed him off when they screwed up. >> how? >> we just came back out of lockup. >> that was nothing. >> culliver became warden at

holman in 2002 when it was facing serious problems. >> it was a violent facility. you talked to some of the people in the community, probably a greater number of times they saw ambulance coming this way, they thought it was coming to holman prison. that was the case then. that's not necessarily the case now. >> but he knows all too well that violence can be reduced but not eliminated. >> if you come in and you look meek and mild, then those guys that are seasoned and have been here, they run games on you, they get you into debt. once you get into debt, if they're not soliciting sex from you, then they solicit that you have your family members send them money. if that doesn't happen, then of course you get threatened to bodily harm. >> we met a number of predatory inmates at holman but few more memorable than steven parker. a self-proclaimed leader of a white supremacist gang.

>> about six monthing ago i cut a guy's throat in population. >> what happened? >> well, he had beat me out of some money. me and him worked a deal. i came to him saying you need to pay me my [ bleep ] money. you need to pay me what you owe me. he knew from other prisons. he knew what would eventually happen if he didn't pay me. i got tired of it and cut his throat. >> parker has assaulted numerous inmates and staff members. he's spent most of his time at holman in the segregation unit. >> he's violent. he's in here for violence. apparently time has not taught him differently. >> can i be rehabilitated? yeah, i could. if i could figure out how to get over the hatred. af lot of hatred. i have a lot of hatred for people in general and society. >> that includes warden culliver. >> he's a narcissist.

he just loves attention. he loves to micromanage and he loves to give everybody that's at his mercy a hard time. he's trying to be somebody. you know, he's trying to define his identity off the dehumanization of other people. trying to boost his own ego up. >> how would you describe steven parker? >> crazy. he's a nut. i mean, no more, no less. he's not a person that's very intelligent. >> culliver combats predatory behavior and other problems by knowing his inmates well and enforcing his rules. even the smaller ones. like being clean shaven. >> if i see somebody with a beard or looking like they need to shave, i generally talk to them about that. >> you need to either shave or go to health care. one or the other. >> i done been there. >> culliver never hesitates to get involved in the seemingly endless array of disciplinary

problems. our crew caught up with him on a monday morning as he was trying to resolve an incident that occurred over the weekend. >> well, there was a use of force i got a call about yesterday. this guy acting out. they put a fwloom his cell. he refused to give the broom back. they took him out of the cell, put him outside. >> culliver often has uncooperative inmates placed in outside holding cells until they calm down. this time it caused more problems. >> this time he refused to come inside. they used force on him. he's high strung. he's agitated a lot. floods his cell. he does things to irritate the staff. sometimes he has rhyme or reason for it. sometimes he doesn't. >> our crew followed along as culliver went to confront the inmate, james broadhead. >> officer gave me a broom to clean the cell. i asked him could i get a better

broom. he told me no so i broke the broom. >> why? >> i done told you the broom had -- >> ain't no reason to break the broom. so the situation started because you broke the room. >> i needed to clean up. >> but you could have waited until somebody came back tomorrow and told them. just like you asked to see me this morning. you could have asked to see me yesterday morning in your cell to told me the same thing you told me this morning. right? and even if the broom wasn't working properly, if it was a sour broom, there still was no reason to break the handle of the broom. yes or no? >> a few minutes later, the conversation turns to broadhead's disciplinary record at holman. >> i ain't got but 39 disciplines. but i ain't did all of them. >> but 39 disciplines. >> all in all, just another monday morning for a warden who's always walking the line between friend and foe. can a business have a mind?

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