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dinner. speaking of 2016 we'll talk about which other women you should be watching on the campaign trail this year. plus joe biden's bold call for new cancer research and michael j. fox's plea for a cure for parkinson's disease. will they inspire the next moon shot? breaking news in texas, bracing for some of its worst flooding in years. as much as ten inches of rain fell in parts of the houston area overnight, on top of the nearly six inches that fell on the city yesterday. nbc charles hadlock is live in houston. charles, how is it this morning? >> good morning. houston is waking up to yet more rainfall. the goed news is it's tapering off and the flooding overnight is not as bad as feared. the bayous have handled that part of water.

downtown houston is high and dry, there's nothing wrong there. there are no houses or structures flooded in houston at this time. it's mostly streets and roadways that typically flood in a heavy rain, like in any other city. that's what houston is dealing with this morning. we really dodged a bullet here. the remnants of hurricane patricia posed a major threat after a low pressure system already soaked parts of texas with up to 13 inches of rain in parts of north texas. that system moved away just as patricia was moving in, a lot of people feared that we could get even more rain but it looks like the low pressure system is moving off. the cold front has moved through, the rain is expected to taper off later today, and houston can begin the task of drying out here. richard? >> thank you for the update. charles hadlock in houston for the latest on the storm system. msnbc meteorologist bonnie schneider, what does it look

like? >> the central gulf coast i'm most concerned with for heavy rain, flash flood watches. texas, louisiana, alabama, mississippi and florida mainly along the gulf coast we could see four to eight inches plus ten inches in some isolated areas. looking back though over the past five days, already record rainfall as we mentioned. cities like san antonio, houston, waco, all shattered records yesterday for rainfall. houston getting almost five and a half inches. this is what we're looking at right now, the batch of heavy rain coming into lake charles, into beaumont and new orleans getting hit with heavy rain at this hour, really just the beginning. throughout the day today sunday into monday this will rach mp u. lots of rain into new orleans, gulf moisture and remnants from patricia coming together to make for a flood danger for today and tonight and even into tomorrow. the heaviest rain into southeast and southwest louisiana and we'll continue to with a much that.

houston it's tapering off but it will take a while for the water to recede with the flooding there and it's drying out in dallas. looking at what's ahead, here is the latest computer models, i put this together to see what is ahead for the next three days. vicksburg, mississippi, looking at a lot of rain and central use lies and atlanta looking at rain. tuscaloosa as well and alabama. this pocket where you see in the white richard this is where i think we'll see the worst of it going forward for today and tonight. we'll keep a close watch on the region. hopefully it won't be as bad as we what we saw in texas. with all the rain coming in it's something to monitor. >> thank you, bonnie schneider. turning now to iowa, where all three remaining democratic candidates attended the jefferson jackson dinner in des moines, the traditional kickoff for the serious preparation for the first in the nation election. an important messaging event that unscientifically, hillary

clinton brought in katy perry and her husband former president bill clinton joined her for the first time on the campaign time. >> you've got a lot of talk about breaking the glass ceiling. i want to talk about one barrier that has not been broken. i want you to support hillary for me, too, because i want to break a ceiling. i am tired of the stranglehold that women have had on the job of presidential spouse. senator bernie sanders to the chants of "feel the burn" on the sidelines. none of it compared to this moment in 2007 when another marching band led then candidate barack obama his wife michelle and 4,000 supporters to that year's jefferson jackson dinner.

proved to be a turning point in the obama campaign, when he crystallized his differences with one hillary clinton. the groundswell of support eventually leading to the young senator's surprise win in the iowa caucuses. now, bernie sanders hopes to do the same. >> and by the way, just remember about eight years ago, all of the political experts talked about how another democratic candidate for president just couldn't win. he was unelectable. you remember that guy? what's his name? oh,obama. well, iowa, i think we are going to prove the pundits wrong again. i believe we're going to make history one more time. >> this time around the field is a little bit different but it's definitively now a two-way race. poll showing hillary clinton

regaining her lead in iowa, now seven points up from bernie sanders. clinton taking the opportunity yesterday to go after her nearest opponent. >> i know when you know it's not enough just to rail against the republicans or the billionaires. we actually have to win this election in order to rebuild the middle class and make a positive difference in people's lives. >> joining me from iowa is msnbc political reporter alex sideswald. what stood out for you last night? >> reporter: to me, unquestionably the story was bernie sanders, he threw out the stump speech he's been giving for something like 40 years speaking in the round, got away from the podium he's doing and really went off the weakest points of hillary clinton's resume on the transpacific partnership, on the keystone xl

pipeline, on the defense of marriage act, on superpacks. he portrayed himself as the true progressive. he said he governed by principles and he took the right fork in the road before somebody else who he did mention by the way. this is one of the smartest and sharpest speeches he's given and it also has weakness. the story of the summer is the large rallies, the weakness hillary clinton is feeling but she's had these charmed two weeks, tons of victories and i think he saw last night that he needs to blunt her momentum and really try to go after her and there's some risk here for him. his political brand is very much tied up in running a positive campaign. he's pledged to run a positive campaign. he's never run a negative ad in his life and then he comes to this event, this key democratic event in iowa, where everyone there is on the same team and the same room and he basically takes a sledgehammer to hillary clinton. his supporters in the room ate it up, they loved it of course

but i wonder in the long-term if this is going to hurt him potentially taking the sharper, more aggressive tone against hillary clinton. >> so alex, it does sound like hillary clinton was a little more subdued than that. what was the reaction from her supporters to her speech? >> reporter: definitely she's playing it a little bit safer. she reiterated the message she's played before and i think her campaign told me this is a chance for them to introduce themselves to a larger audience beyond her core supporters. they were very well organized. they had sort of a blue army of people dressed in their same blue t-shirts and these wands, but she took that slight jab at bernie sanders, not mentioning him by name but saying she will make an impact in people's lives. she comes with the momentum. she's feeling very confident and i wonder if she'll take a step back a little bit and feel much more, much safer than she did a few weeks ago. >> my thanks to alex seitz-wald

joining us from iowa. here to discuss this is our panel, former jindal campaign manager an ceo of go big media, philip stutz, kaitlyn and former "new york times" columnist bob herbert. >> good morning. >> i want to start out with the compare and contrast with obama in 2007. the expectations are high at this kind of event. i don't know that any of bernie sanders or hillary clinton can really live up to that. i'm not sure even barack obama can live up to that expectation today. kaitlin, do you think either of them could live up to obama in 2007, what he did at that dinner? >> i'm not sure but it shows a real contrast at this point to the republican side. if you're a democrat you show we have this organizational muscle, and trying to show the spirit and intensity. it is a little bit divided between two candidates but on the republican side you have several people running and they haven't yet really coalesced

around a single front-runner or two. so or someone that they think can make it in the long run, so i think that democrats can take that away from it. but i think what we saw in 2007 i'm not sure that can be replicated. that was its own. >> bob, bernie sanders was trying to, you know, twist the knife a little bit here, got a little bit pointed. i want to pick up in particular something that he said in response to hillary clinton talking to rachel maddow. first i'll play what hillary said to rachel maddow and what bernie said last night. >> in a lot of ways, doma was a line that was drawn to prevent going further. >> it was a defensive action? >> it was a defensive action. >> now today some are trying to rewrite history by saying they voted for one anti-gay law to stop something worse. that's not the case. there was a small minority in

the house opposed to discriminating against our gay brothers and sisters, and i am proud that i was one of those members. >> so bob, doma, defense of marriage act, not actually true hillary clinton saying she voted for it. she was first lady when doma came into being but is there room here for bernie to find some space around this pocket of issues? >> i think bernie has a real problem and i think his main problem is that he's peaked too soon. i think he's really peaked too soon. what would have been better for bernie if he had sort of like increased his visibility steadily, and then won a surprise victory in iowa and moved on to new hampshire. bernie has been seen as a formidable mainstream candidate for quite a while and now you're open to attacks. they're not vicious attacks but open to attacks and now he has to figure out a way to respond.

he can't keep saying the same thing over and over again, and i think that he's out of his comfort zone. so i think it's a real problem for him. >> that element of surprise is interesting. of course obama was not the front-runner and there was a surprise element to him winning. phill phillip, something march anyone o'malley talked about in terms of donald trump. listen to what he said about donald trump last night. >> to that immigrant bashes, carnival barker donald trump, let us stand together and say that the enduring symbol of our nation is not the barbed wire fence. it is the statue of liberty. >> i think that's what donald trump calls high energy. obviously you're always going to win prizes at a democratic event to go after donald trump but problems for the republican party being painted into a corner with latino voters.

>> bob is right with bernie. when you've got old, white and angry, whether it's the republican side or the democrat side eventually it's not going to pan out for the candidate and i think that's the case with donald trump as well. we do need to be appealing to more hispanics in our party but i also say donald trump is between 20% and 30% in all the major critical states. that means 70% to 80% of the primary voter republicans are not going to support him. if you look at the polling it will say they aren't going to support him. he's got a very niche audience and a big primary. he may slip through because he only needs so many votes but i think he's got a big problem and he's not helpful to the party right now. >> you mean he's reached his own glass ceiling. caitlin, before we go, big endorsement for hillary clinton from david plouffe. david plouffe who i know pretty well not an obvious fan of hillary clinton. maybe he wouldn't ever go for bernie sappeders but it's a significant signal of the obama

base. >> and the timing, before she went to the show at the dinner last night. we're starting to see this in polling democrats overwhelmingly say they believe she will be the eventual nominee and that works against bernie sanders in this regard. i think she can take that away from it as well. >> could you imagine 20 years ago a former staffer endorses a presidential candidate? it's crazy. >> but everyone loved his videos, the base loved his videos, it says a lot about digital campaigning, you can reach people and be known as a campaign manager. >> we saw joe biden this week, he got out of the race or i don't know if he was really in it but decided not to run, talked about embracing the obama legacy and encouraging the other democrats to do so. we saw hillary clinton do a little bit more of that recently. >> we have to leave it right there. still ahead we'll have the latest on the crash of oklahoma state university's homecoming a

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you know in your heart of hearts that you cannot wait to see me debate hillary clinton. but she reminded us over and over and over again in that debate that she's an outsider because she would be the first woman. she would be the first woman president. let me start by assuring you that i will never ask for your vote or your support because i'm a woman. >> that of course was republican presidential candidate carly fiorina on wednesday attacking the democratic front-runner. it was hard to know at this staining if clinton's strategy

in embracing the historic nature of her candidacy will help or hurt her. recent pew poll found when it comes to politics women are seen as better than men on straits like compromise, honesty, and standing up for their beliefs and another study found that over the last seven years, women in the senate have introduced and enacted legislation at a higher rate than their male counterparts and even gained more bipartisan support. however, men still make up 80% of congress, and of course, there's never been a woman president. when pew asked what holds women back? the most common responses were that women are held to higher standards, and the electorate isn't ready for women leaders. so will a woman finally break through the ultimate glass ceiling and what can we expect from women in races up and down the ballot in 2016? joining our panel is the president and founder of emerge america an organization that encourages women to run for elected office. andrea, welcome. >> thank you for having me.

>> what is holding women back from running for office? >> the main thing is that women have to want to run. so at emerge america we focus on recruiting women, that means having lots of conversations around kitchen tables and community meetings encouraging women to run. you can't build the house from the top down. it's great to focus on the presidency but we need women running all up and down the ballot. there are 520,000 political offices in this country. so at emerge america we're focused on building the bench, filling the pipeline, getting women running and on the ticket. we have a cocampaign called follow hillary's lead. we want to make 2016 more than just the year of one women. we want to make it the year of many women. >> even for hillary clinton there's a perception maybe for her that her treatment is shaped by how people think about women talking in public and being leaders.

let's listen to what she said at the women's dnc leadership forum friday about the issue of gun control. >> i've been told to stop, and i quote "shouting about gun violence." well first of all i'm not shouting. it's just when women talk, some people think we're shouting. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's a problem for women running for office, a different set of rules for how people treat them in their regular arguments and debates style. >> that's true richard. what we encourage our women to do is be authentic, all americans want are authentic politicians, for hillary, for other women running up and down the ballot and you're not going to be treated like hillary clinton if you're running for school board you're not held to the same standards. get in the races, put your name on the ballot and you'll see, you'll be able to handle yourself if you just are who you

are. >> people you're looking out for this season on either side, what candidates stand out for you? >> i'm really excited about a lot of the senate candidates mainly because we have several women of color running. we have carmela harris in my home state of california and she was one of my inspirations for starting emerge. she came to me in 2002. she was interested in running for the da and she said what do i do? where do i go? i said camella let me figure it out. that's how i started emerge. if elected she would be the second african-american ever and we also have donna edwards running in maryland. we have catherine cortez mastow, if elected she would be the first latina. at emerge america we are owe focused on the state legislative races as well. we have to do better as democrats, as progressives. republicans have known this for years and i admire them for what they've done but we've got to

take back some of the state legislative chamber. >> caitlin, do you see women in washington operating at a different level getting more done? >> sure. i think you talk to women in congress and they will tell you they're better listeners. we saw patty murray really break ground with paul ryan, of course, on the budget a few years ago, and so you definitely see that trend. i think it is very important to really cultivate women running for office at the state and local level in congress, because then when it comes to the presidency, then you therefore have a bigger bench. but women i talk to about running for office, the one thing that they always point to is the difficulty in fund-raising, the difficulty they think that they have in asking for money, i'm wondering if you find that to be some kind of prohibitor or something that keeps people back. >> well, certainly they are definitely nervous about fund-raising, but what we do at emerge is we walk them through the steps, and teach them how to

fund raise. we take women through a six-month training program. we show them how to do this. if you can potty train a child you can fund raise, i do a whole presentation. it's not that hard if you learn how to do it. >> philip, we've been if he k s focusing on democrats. republican women you have your eye on? >> krrl krrl carly fiorina of c really it's all on carly. i find the ability to promote women in politics is an incredible effort. i don't know if anybody is holding anybody back anymore. i don't see that. i think men and women have equal plain to run for office. it's about how good their campaigns are and i encourage more women in politics but i don't know if anybody's being held back. >> it's a much bigger discussion. sadly we have to leave it there. thank you andrea dew steele for joining us. >> thank you. still ahead, four people killed, dozens injured ben a driver plows into a parade at a

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of course, four people as we've said have died including a toddler and a graduate student. police this morning are looking for more witnesses to the crash and any video that might be out there. they say that the person who has been arrested on a charge of driving under the influence, adesha chambers. one witness says she was out of control after the crash, she had to be held down until police arrived. investigators tell me that possible charges range from negligent homicide to manslaughter, even to murder, depending on her driving history, her intention, and whether or not she was intoxicated among other factors. this morning, 17 people remain hospitalized, five of those are in critical condition, and as we said, the police are looking for any more witnesses to come forward with new information. richard? >> that's profoundly sad story, thanks to jacob rascon in stillwater, oklahoma.

new strid video, dozens of hostages were freed. this was obtained exclusive by nbc news arab 24. this was apparently taken on helmet cams at a prison in northern iraq on thursday. u.s. and kurdish commandos pulled off that raid. raid in which delta force commando master sergeant joshua wheeler was killed. he was the first american to die in combat operations against isis. still ahead, the breakthroughs michael j. fox said he sees in the future on "back the future" day. and next, why jeb bush says he's not too worried about his plummeting poll numbers. please stay with us. new charmin ultra strong, dude.

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unfavorable rating than ted cruz. all that while more money has been spent on tv ads for him than any other candidate with very little to show for it so far. bush responded yesterday to the worries that his campaign is falling apart this way. >> blah, blah, blah. you know what they're saying out there. that's my answer, blah, blah, blah. watch it. president cain was winning the republican primary in 2007. senator clinton was up by 25 points against an unknown guy named barack obama eight years ago. i think president giuliani was leading the field for a brief time more or less this same time, and so you look at the race. october is not when you elect people. it's february, and then you move into march, and we have a campaign that is designed to win. and i'm going to win. >> not if florida rival marco

rubio has anything to say about it. senator rubio received rave reviews for debate performances so far and only so much establishment money to go around. with jeb bush struggling could another strong debate performance wednesday night by marco rubio make him the establishment's choice? time to bring back our panel here. phill phillip, some interesting insights in a "new york times" article from the bush family circle. i want to pull up a quote from john sununu who says "i have no feeling for the electorate anymore. it's not responding the way it used to, that priorities are so different that if i tried to analyze it i'd be making it up." i realize this is bush 41 we're talking about, but still it does feel like the bush formula isn't working in the republican party today. >> it isn't. it's a different electric to arate, a different primary electorate. it's more libertarian. it's more anti-establishment. he's the establishment. i think if you look at the latest polling out of iowa in

july, there were 28% of primary caucus goers who said they'd never vote for jeb. now the number is at 5. i don't see him staying in iowa. he has a robust operation in new hampshire, robust operation in south carolina, and i think he hopes to take that to the sec primary, which is march 1st, which is the southern states. >> that was rudy giuliani? >> rudy giuliani was florida. this is new hampshire, south carolina and listen, i'm not saying who is going to win. i don't think trump and i don't think carson are going to make it to the end. rubio is actually pretty primed sitting in third place, go back to what bob said earlier making the run late before the iowa votes and i think rubio is in a good spot to do that. >> and new hampshire wasn't in 2000. caitlin, we couldn't do a segment without going back to donald trump. let's hear what he said about

bush and rubio i think in jacksonville yesterday. >> bush now has got to cut back because think of this. think of this. here's a guy, here's a guy wants to run our country, and he can't even run his own campaign. so bush has no money. he's cutting, he's meeting today with mommy and daddy and they're working on their campaign. rubio is controlled by his pack and he needs a lot of water on top of everything else. did you ever see a guy, did you ever see a guy sweat like rubio? i've never seen anything like that. >> high energy, low energy, sweating, no sweating. it's going to hurt when obviously donald trump is trying to hurt but got to hurt when he can portray bush in this kind of way. >> sure. we've seen trump be able to get under bush's skin. what's difficult for bush, though, i think it was very hard

for anybody really to predict trump's rise, but i think that they underestimated where the electorate is. bush came into this campaign campaigning specifically on experience. his record as governor of florida, the electorate at this point is saying we don't want that kind of experience at all. so where rubio can come in, remember, rubio's biggest liability was that he might be, he didn't have much experience in government, that he would be kind of the barack obama of the cycle in terms of being a first term senator. i think he's been able to show that, one, he did not listen to what the establishment said and he always talks about the fact that he didn't wait in line and did run. i think he's tried to wait it out, try to wait for everybody else to fall and he's been successful in that regard. and he's been the only candidate to not let trump get under his skin so far. trump has gone aggressively after rubio. >> we'll see if that continues.

this could of course, bob, be just blah, blah, blah, but i want to pull up the numbers. the unfavorable/favorable numbers for bush and rubio, because bush is struggling when it comes to the unfavorable numbers. >> no question. >> compared to marco rubio, he's negative 16, if you net out the favorable and unfavorable. rubio is plus 6. people may not know fully who marco rubio is. but bush, likability. it wasn't supposed to be this way for him. >> it wasn't. actually i kept hearing he was going to be a better candidate than george w. bush was but i think john sununu is on to something. there's a profound change in the which we elect our presidents now in the united states and bush is playing essentially by the family playbook and that's over. that goes back a long way. the elections are now so much more like a reality tv show than they are like traditional elections and i don't think that favors someone like jeb bush.

>> we could be to blame for that. i get plenty of response here, why are we playing so much donald trump, we're just feeding this thing. the voters are responding. they like the reality. >> they do but when you look at the debates, for example, though, the networks are very concerned about the ratings for the debates. that wasn't the case before. they want to pump up the electorate. they want to give them entertainment. i actually personally not that happy with it but i think that's the direction we're going in, and i think that ultimately that's going to hurt marco rubio, too, because i don't think he's a great reality tv show candidate. >> right. well maybe that's not what we want in a president. but we'll come back to that later. still ahead the ambitious goal vice president joe biden laid out when he announced he wasn't running for president. stay with us. gigs for the price of 10. that's 5 extra gigs for the same price. so five more gigs for the same price? yea, allow me to demonstrate. you like that pretzel?

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cancer. it's personal. but i know we can do this. the president and i have already been working hard on increasing funding for research and development, because there are so many breakthroughs just on the horizon in science and medicine. the things that are just about to happen and we can make them real with an absolute national commitment to end cancer as we know it today. >> that was vice president biden on wednesday, expressing his hope for finding new funding to help find a cure for cancer soon. that same day which of course was "back to the future" day the white house posted on its website a letter from michael j. fox in which the actor and parkinson's sufferer wrote he's optimistic we'll find cures to many diseases that still plague us. he wrote "i believe that by 2045, we'll find the cures we seek especially because of all the smart, passionate people

working to make it happen. doctors and researchers around the world are developing new tools to improve the diagnosis and treatment of brain diseases to tailor treatment for all illnesses through precision medicine and to make life better for millions of people." fox testified before congress about the issue almost 16 years ago urging lawmakers to earmark more money for parkinson's research. so how far away are we from finding new cures? and what role can the federal government play in getting us closer? we're joined by former congressman rush holt, also a scientist, a physicist i believe, and now ceo of the american association for the advancement of science. good morning congressman. >> good morning, richard. good to be with you. >> so a lot of this funding goes into the national institutes of health of course. nih funding i remember the days when it was handed on a platter to any nih director who walked into congress and then it stagnated. doubled for a while and stagnated. what is the current prospect for this kind of biomedical research

that we're talking about here? >> first of all, vice president biden, joe biden has been a champion of research over the years but i would say right now, there is no one who is enough for research. i would like to think that our organization, the american association for the advancement of science is, but in any case, we are underinvesting in research by a huge amount. nih yes as you say went through a doubling a decade or more ago, but in the last few years, last five years it's fallen by about a quarter, about 20% actually. nih, the nci, the national cancer institute similarly. so you know, vice president biden of course is talking about the disease or the cluster of diseases that he now feels very personally, but in every area of

human welfare, there are real gains to be made, and we are nowhere close to investing as much as we could productively invest. we could invest several times what we are now investing in research and development, and get returns well into the double digits, maybe the many double digits. >> i want to ask what we've seen over the last few years is of course the rise of disease focused sort of lobbying groups, people interested in one type of disease or another. when they look at nir funding they say it's basic research, not focused on cures, so where do you stand on where this extra money should go, the research end of things or a cure focus? >> well it's because of the basic research, looking at bacteria and hot springs, and eventually learning how to decode the sequence of words in the dna, which was not done as part of the war on cancer, that we now understand that cancer is not one disease, it's not like yellow fever or smallpox, where there's a single pathogen we're

trying to beat. it's hundreds of cellular malfunctions that occur in many places in the body, and it's going to require thousands of different individualized personalized localized treatments, and that's what the president and the vice president are talking about when they speak of this new personalized medicine. that's the result of really the basic research not so much the war on cancer. >> congressman want to squeeze in a question from bob herbert on the panel. >> i wonder why is there such extreme underinvestment in this research, do you think? >> you know it's hard to say. we're spending less than a percent of our gross domestic product on research and development. i think any corporation that spends such a small amount on ensuring its future means of

production would be considered derelict. we're now tenth in the world in research intensity. the private sector invests oh $250 billion in research and development, that sounds like a lot, but it's more development research. as a percentage of our national economic activity, it's really not that large. and when you look at whether we're at all close to a marginal return on our investment, in other words, slower and slower payback, no, we're nowhere close to that. we could easily spend several times what we're spending now public and private sector, on research and development, and get a great return. >> okay. >> as we did from, you know, mris and lasers. we're living off of the benefits of basic research that was done half a century ago. >> we are. and i could spend a whole hour

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there is a lot going on this morning. we have to get caught up on other headlines. panel, i have to start out with this fascinating news from odessa, ukraine, where a soviet statue of lenin has been converted intoo a star wars character. i think we can just about tell in this picture which character it is. it is, of course, darth vader. i guess that's a comment, bob, on what they think about lenin nowadays. >> yes, it is. we have heard of the empire strikes back. this is striking back at the empire. >> very nice. the evil empire. very good. rather than removing the statue, they decided to transform it, which is recycling, i suppose,

in some cases. another one from the l.a. times. digging for gold in the sewers. this is stunning to me. a gold rush apparently in california has begun as rumors of gold being found in california. they believe that they found gold in a storm drain. i think i've got a quote from the police chief who says it's extremely dangerous and he it's, quote, illegal. >> i'm a graduate of the university of alabama. whenever i hear the word auburn because this is happening in auburn, california, i think of the sewer. it's perfect. it really hits up my alley. thank you. >> very cute. apparently, officials are worried the drains could be destabilized, no kidding. special from nbc news. specially drug company, remember the sory about the company that wanted to charge $750 for a trug daraprim. this new company is saying it will do a $1 version. we talked about science funding.

caitlin, the free market at work. you can't overcharge people like this. >> sure, and they're showing they won't pay for it. so i think that's a welcome development. >> definitely. drug used to cost $13.50 per pill. $7.50 they said they could do it so they would do it. last of all, i'm sorry, but it's a new york story. there was a pizza rat, and now there's apparently a pizza raccoon. this one enjoying in central park a slice of sicilian. thank you, new yorker identified it as sicilian for us and t tth the #pizzaraccoon, has been trending. >> who knew there were raccoons in new york. >> they're everywhere. yesterday, there was a story about how pizza is addictive. >> weird animal story. >> we are. it's also a weird human story. okay, i would like to thank our

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