hospital for a major surgery that may allow him to walk on his own one day. >> push. >> reporter: but even as he recovered braden out at the construction site cheering on his brother and other volunteers. finally, this week -- >> i think it looks great what happen do you guys think? >> reporter: -- it was time to play. the playground instantly came to life. braden was in heaven. >> so many different things to play on i can't pick one! >> reporter: sped down the ramps with his best friend and crossed the rope bridge with hunter. >> so many highlights of my life, this is one of them. >> reporter: showing people what he's been saying all along. he can do anything. >> braden and hunter have done that piggy back walk twice now, inspiring so many people, raising aawareness about cerebral palsy. hunter tells us he wants to go to college for engineering to learn how to build tools to help people.

mtp daily starts right now. >> yep, it's thursday, is it a generational shift for the republican party? cruz, rubio, ryan, riding high in the last 24 hours. while bush and bainer are down and out. gen-x versus baby boomers, this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. there's lots of ways to look what's happened in last 24 hours on the republican side of the aisle in american politics. but mark this on your calendars. last 24 hours could turn out to be the most vis ibl generational shift in the republican party. and in a, well, generation. the three guys, all born within 16 months of one another, starting 1970, are now dominating the political playing field at least for now and could

for the next year. a pair of 44-year-old first-term senators, ted cruz and marco rubio, walking a lot taller after last night's presidential debate. paul ryan, came into the house at age of 28, former staffer, and he's now one of the youngest speakers of the house in that body's history at age 45. jeb bush, man with the most vintage sir name in the presidential field is falling fast. and yearning for the deal making of the good old days, he's officially out. we'll get to tall of that, including jim clyburn, whether his party feels like working with ryan will be different than with boehner. and and we'll talk to republicans on what it's like to now have speaker ryan insped of boehner. but we start with the aftermath of the third republican presidential debate. today a little boasting but a lot of complaining about the debate and, well, the media. >> who saw the debate last night?

and -- great book -- who won the debate? >> you did! >> we did well. when you get credit from the press you know you did well. >> i was arguing for three hours, actually, for debate when you ten people on age, two hours goes by pretty fast. >> i think the republican party's becoming the loser here. i don't think rnc could run a one-car funeral. this is getting pretty bad. >> we've turned this into a game show. jump in, get your answer in. >> they want us to kill each other. >> what it's turned into is a got ya! the cruz missile helped. >> the cruz missile. interesting comment there from ben carson, of course, with this being senator ted cruz's rant against the debate moderators for what he said allegedly were substanceless questions. but the real attack of night had to be marco rubio turning jeb bush's attack on his voting record into a stinging counterpunch. today, the two had very different reactions to what

happened last night in boulder. >> i think people, when they get elected to serve, they ought to serve. i do think people ought to show up to work. >> i'm not going talk bad about governor bush. my campaign is not about him. >> what about your campaign is on life support? it. >> not on life support. we have the greatest money, the greatest organization. >> the debate -- >> the inis not near, memo to file. life is good. >> hit the press box. a tough day in bush world. kasie nuhunt is in new hampshir kasie jackson, and carrie dan details on a bush fund-raiser taking place in the nation's capital headlined by president george w. bush. but let's senator new hampshire, jeb bush spent the day. kasie hunt joins me from the grant it state. kasie, you've been doing a lot of reporting behind the scenes. today about jeb bush trying to say all is calm, all is well. what have you learned behind the scenes?

>> chuck, trying to spin this as well as it can be spun but they also know that that's an uphill battle. jeb bush himself on a conference call trying to calm down some of those nervous donors around 3:30 this afternoon, sally bradshaw, a top adviser also on the call. he vowed to improve, that he said he's going to try to get better as a debater, campaigner and looking forward to get back out on the trail. he also thanked donors for hard work and refuting the national media narrative pushing behind him. of course the challenge is, that narrative has just turned so aggressively against him. chuck, i've been talking to people in rubio's campaign, and those who have given to him, there are rubio people reaching out softly, gently, to some of the bush donors who feel might be willing to secure their pitch. one thing that i thought noteworthy, some donors expressing concern about the personal attacks that jeb bush is making on marco rubio. >> and kasie, we had a bit of a

satellite pop on your audio there. but we did get the gist. it's a lot of behind the scenes calming down they're trying to do with donors. as jeb bush tries to keep calm and carry on, as the sign says in london, donald trump is doing his usual boasting about his own debate performance at a rally in nevada this afternoon. hallie jackson joins me from sparks, nevada. halle, it's interesting with trump, he spent a lot of time attacking jeb bush in the first two debates, a hot of time attacking jeb bush in a lot of campaign rallies. did he have anything to say about what happened when marco rubio was the that seemed to take him down last night? >> he did. here's another guy he spent a lot of time attacking marco rubio. here at rally we heard donald trump give himself some credit for predicting that the two would go head to head. this is a packed room, close to 4,000 people here at this casino. and donald trump tried to come

off as a comedian. he wasn't the angry trump or subdued trump we saw on stage last night help was comedian trump, trying to make them laugh. he talked about the debate. as you might imagine, boasted that he believes he won the debate, even though the people everybody he's talking about today are marco rubio, ted cruz and jeb bush for a different reason. also took positions we haven't heard before. talked about in colorado last night, marijuana legalized, talk about legalizing medical marijuana and leaving the rest up for the state. overall a typical rally in which trump was trump, bragging about his numbers and performance. >> as you point out at the debate and this rally today, a lighter touch, at least as far as donald trump. >> yeah. >> whatever you call a light touch in donald trump speak but a lighter touch for trump. we'll see you in a few minutes. in washington, it's george w. bush stepping up to help his brother raise money for his

presidential campaign. town for what is a bush-cheney alumni event, also bringing fund-raising power he hopes in georgetown. of all days, right after a debate, a tough, tough room for the former president to be talking to. carrie dan joins me from outside that fund-raiser. what have you picked up from sort of literally the washington bush chattering class? >> well this is a big day in bush reunion world, former president appeared at a fair month hotel reunion with former alumni from his administration. a lot of folks heading here to the home of an investment firm, ceo, who is hosting this event, george w. bush is slated to be here. you look at the list of co-chairs here, it's a who's who of the bush administration. former chiefs of staff andy card, josh bolton, former secretary of commerce, carlos

gutierrez, anita mcbride. a lot of folks who have been through thick and thin. co-charz ponying up $32,000 and attendees price tag of $2700. you're seeing big money here, but a tough audience day after the debate. organizers seen an increase not decrease since last night. >> figure out if they come out of the event they're in a good mood not depressed mood. carrie dann thanks very much. jeb bush soldiering on. it's clearly situation critical. look at headlines today. some of them declaring campaign agony, onlife support in a death spiral. in new hampshire bush is about to hold his first post-debate town hall in an hour. he bemoaned the debate and blamed it on washington and, guess who, the media. >> right now washington's not

working at all. it's completely dysfunctional. the debate last night was a good example of it. there wasn't any substantive question where people talk about the questions around their kitchen table. very few things that were real. it was about the horse race, all about the trying to figure out the got you question to make people look bad. >> joined by former florida senator, and i believe a jeb bush supporter, mel martinez. welcome to "meet the press daily." good to see you. >> let me ask you, how do you feel about jeb bush today versus before the debate? >> well, i feel that today, because two things are happening, frankly, one is judd gregg endorsed him in new hampshire, judd was a colleague of mine in the senator, well respected figure in the state of new hampshire and he endorsed jeb bush. that's good news in the state of new hampshire. that's a state by state race that we run when we do presidential issues. so i think it's a good day from

that standpoint. the second bit of good news, you know, former president bush is going to have a fund-raiser tonight and have a substantial amount of money coming from that. you know, look, the debate is about performance, entertainment, quality. we have 10, 11 people up there, there's a tremendous confusion by the way this debate was moderated and handled. and it's a bit of a free for all. bottom line is, i don't believe jeb is ever going to get the award as the best debater in the group. but what we need is a substantive president who can govern, hope and change didn't work out from my point of view. >> you know a lot of the florida donors, folks that like marco rubio, like governor bush, and probably weighing which is the better investment? what should the jeb bush campaign do to reassure folks on the fence? previous campaigns, i think john mccain, you know, he said i'm going to new hampshire, i remember al gore moved his campaign to nashville.

john kerry fired a campaign manage somewhere restarted things. reagan fired a campaign manager after losing iowa. do you think jeb needs to do a public sacrifice or something to calm donors down? >> i think jeb needs to do what he's doing. frankly, i think he can perform better. i think he's going to work at that. sounds like a renewed commit nont do better in the performances which is part of the game. but i think beyond that, there's a tremendous depth of loyalty to jeb bush from the donor clasp people misread that. this isn't someone they picked up on. they know as a governor, did a great job for the state, someone who can govern, substantive and someone they trust and can do the job. on the other hand, you know, i just don't think they have the same level of comfort and confidence that a president rubio would be anywhere as good as a competent president bush would be. at the end of the day, we're hiring a president. we're hiring someone to govern the country after which has been

calamitous eight years. >> you weren't a fan of being in the u.s. senate. do you think it's a fair hit on what the "sun-sentinel" said about marco rubio? >> i came to a point i didn't people i was making a contribution, i didn't miss any more views than was necessary from a death in the familiarly to whatever. when i felt i was going nowhere, i had family issues to deal with i moved on. that's what you do. i don't think you hold a seat because you hold a seat. i think most senators take missing votes seriously and avoid them at all cost. i understand the pressures of a presidential campaign and i saw it happen. but i still think that the job of a senator for frankly six years is serious job that ought to be taken seriously. >> you think marco rubio's going to be president of the united states? you know jeb bush will be a about thor president. do you think rubio's better. >> jeb bush will continue to

run. i'm excited about jeb bush because i think what he did in florida was phenomenal what he can do for the country, this point in time, bringing people together and getting things done. that's where my focus is. i'm not taking your hypothetical, by the way, i believe that it's time for us to focus on who would be best to govern our country, not who can perform the best in a debate. >> do you think he's prepared to be president, regardless of whether your first choice. >> look, i think that i would prefer to focus on my candidate, which is jeb bush, and i'm not going to make any judgments about the others. i think clearly some on the stage not prepared to be president. i wouldn't put marco rubio in that category. >> fair enough. former senator mel martinez in orlan orlando. jeb bush, he will be my exclusive guest this sunday on the big show "meet the press." coming up -- paul ryan wins speaker seat. see how he stacks up to his predecessors. later, can the house turn

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wisconsin family in the audience as he got the speaker's gavel but another high-profile well-wisher, his former presidential ticket mate, mitt romney, 2012 republican presidential nominee looked on from the speaker's box during the swearing in. almost looking like a proud father. and a facebook post, romney raised ryan for his quote lack of ego, respect for others, knowledge of government and unwavering character. romney snapped ryan's first speaker selfie with his wife ann and ryan's wife, janna. another angle from ryan's communication director. with this appearance today, plus comments on health care earlier in the month, he praised it, took his praise back of obamacare, mitt romney is not acting like someone who retired from politics is he?

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tobacco sales to minors. the food and drug administration barring eight retailers from selling all tobacco products for 30 days. why? these stores located in illinois, maryland, michigan, missouri, new jersey, repeatedly cited for selling tobacco to minors. to the where. it's the chicago city council, not the galactic senate, the chicago city council voted to approve zoning proposal to pave the way for george lucas' art museum. the move will add more parking spots to the site next to soldier field, the museum will contain lucas' art collection and "star wars" memborabilia ful fully operation until 2019. more visits from the stork. the chinese communist party is lifting the country's infamous one-child policy after three decade allowing couples to have two children. china used the policy to slow it's runaway population growth.

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direction here at home. they desire a new vision, a new america built on the values that have made our country great. >> the people voted to end business as usual and today we begin to carry out their instructions. >> now today, speaker ryan struck a very different tone he painted a gloomier picture of a house in disarray. >> let's be frank, the house is broken. we're not solving problems. we're adding to them. and i am not interested in laying blame. we are not settling scores. we are wiping the slate clean. neither the members nor the people are satisfied with how things are going. we need to make some changes. starting with how the house does

business. >> so very much an internal speech, not the larger picture that we've seen of speakers past. ryan remains optimistic but didn't see this as a victory just in taking over the gavel. he sees the work that's in store of just restoring confidence inside the institution. up next, how much bipartisan cooperation could there be with paul ryan as the new speaker of the house i'll talk to members of both sides of the aisle on their expectations but first, let's go to the market wrap. >> thank you. stocks ended with slight loss as the dow fell 23, s&p sank a point and nasdaq off 21. the economy grew at a 1.5% annual rate in the third quarter, weaker than 3.9% clip and shares of starbucks lower after hours, results in line with estimates but growth in aisha disappointed. revenue also beat. the future.

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now just a few hours into the speakership of paul ryan. the new speaker sent out his first tweet in his new role, declaring simply, quote, let's do this. but can he do it with democrats and republicans on the top job? bridge the gap between republicans and republicans in the top job. backed the bipartisan deal in 2013 with patty murray and just last week, he got this unlikely endorsement. >> i'm a paul ryan fan. i don't agree with him on much of what he does but generally speaking i think that he's been -- we've been able to work with him. >> safe to say house republicans weren't waiting to hear who harry reid liked for the job. so that statement might have

been a mix of sincerity and mischief. let's talk to democrats about paul ryan. joining me south carolina congressman james clyburn, number three on the democratic side of the house. good afternoon. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. >> well, let me ask you, what do you expecting from speaker paul ryan and your relationship with him? >> well, i have a very good relationship with paul ryan. as chair of the budget committee, he entertained it, the proposals i put forth for 10, 20, 30, the record of the money in that section of the budget to communities where 20% or more of the population struggling beneath the poverty level in the last 30 years. he locked the concept, gave me a hearing, we talked about it later. i believe that is open to new

approaches to ired aeradicating poverty, getting rid of income inequality and our 10, 2030 proposal will do just that. i take him at his word that he is going to work to do these things and to bring unity back. and some comment back to our body. >> it's interesting, obviously this change happened in the republican side because it was a -- republicans were unhappy with the leadership on the republican side. were you unhappy with the leadership of speaker boehner or not? >> oh, no, i liked john. you know, the fact of the matter is, those of white house pay close attention to leadership stuff, i've been in that capacity since my teenage years, and i know no matter how good a leader you are, people have to have some faith and confidence in that leadership. and the fact of the matter is, there are too many in his

conference that did not place confidence in his leadership. if you've got a group of people gumming up works because everything cannot be done their way, one of them even saying, their idea of a compromise was when things are done their way. well that's silly stuff. and that's what john had to put up with. john is a great guy. he was a good speaker. no one will allow him to do the job or a small group would not allow him to do the job that he knew how to do. >> it's interesting, one of the demands of the freedom caucus has been sort of a little more of an open process to introduce some bills on the floor, what gets to the floor, and some folks have pointed out to them if they get their way, and they weaken the speaker's capacity to what to bring to the floor and what doesn't, it would strengthen the minority party's capacity, in this case, the democrats in the minority,

capacity to put stuff on the floor. are you in favor what the freedom caucus is doing because it would be -- help the democrats or do you think that that is long term not good for whoever is in the majority? >> no, the freedom party is not wrong on every front i think this is one of those areas where i find agreement with them i believe the process ought to be open but the fact is you put the bills on the floor, you don't demand that the so-called hastert group is newt effect, that is it must be a majority of the majority unless he will not get consideration. bring it to the floor and let's have some open discussions on things. i do believe in that part of the freedom caucus' agenda. i don't think it gives them an advantage to anybody. it opens up the process, gives transparency and allowing everybody to have their say. once you vote, let's be bound by the vote. >> all right. congressman james clyburn, member of the democratic

leadership, on the new speaker of the house this morning. thanks very much, sir. >> thank you for having me. let me move to the republican side of the aisle. republican rancor that drove mccarthy from taking top spot. will his own republican colleagues let him make chajs necessary him? barbara comstock, once a staffer in congress just like speaker ryan and while congresswoman you've only been in your capacity for less than a term, you're pretty familiar how the place is run having worked for frank wolf over a decade. >> yes. >> what changes would you like to see speaker ryan bring that speaker boehner wasn't doing? >> well i think we're going to have that discussion as a conference and that's what paul has said. paul is a very collaborative leader who does want to turn the page here and start, you know,

as you've heard from your previous guest, paul has worked with everybody on some issue. this we're year we had the trade bill. paul sat down with every group across the entire congress to see, you know, what their concerns were about the trade bill and then when we had a consensus bill, we moved forward on it. and that's how he works. that's kind of the regular order of the process that he talked about today in the ways and means committee that he chaired that trade bill came out unanimously. that's a good model how we're going go ing to going forward. the process changes, those are things people get together, we'll have discussions, we'll vote on it, as a conference. >> what would you like to see? >> at this point we haven't had a lot of discussion yet, so i don't know what changes we might need. i think you want to make sure that changes you have retain the essence of the house. we don't want to be the senate.

in the senate one person can stop everything and you don't get anything done. in the house, we like to -- we are the majority party, we want to be able to bring good ideas that we have to the floor and advance tax reform, one of the things paul has talked about. he's been out there leading on a path to prosperity, opportunity for all that he's talked about toy. but some interesting kind of areas that you know he worked for jack kemp, empower america, he's very much about going places that republicans don't ordinarily go. he campaigned -- he has a district like mine, only a plus two republican district, he goes to everybody, gets good policy ideas, synthesizes them and moves forward. build up a coalition. >> do you -- do you think it's appropriate to sometimes have to do some deals behind closed doors rather than dole them in the public? obviously complicated

compromised budget bill you voted for that got through the house, going to get through the senate and the president's going to sign? do you think sometimes you have no choice but to do it behind closed doors because if you did it in public it would kill the compromise? >> we all want to be part of the process and see things. paul did talk about he wants to have things go through the committee process, be more open, see what's out there. but you're always going to have staff working on these things, you have the bills, we'd like have them longer before we vote on them, have everybody be able to make their suggestions but at a certain point you've got to be able to move forward and can't endlessly work on thing like the budget so we're not shutting down the government. he understands. that is how we did the trade bill. there were amendments. but some things that we couldn't agree on but we had a consensus to move forward. >> quickly, ever had a conversation with dave bratt,

congressman from virginia, he represents that area, ever have a conversation about needs you have to represent your swing district and the needs that he has to represent his very red district and how it does come into conflict sometimes? >> well, sure. we have virginia delegation meeting monthly, obviously we see each other, you know, virginia has interest collectively that we all work on. so you know, we're always have those conversations. one of the reasons i was supportive -- >> do you think he understands issues you have versus issues he has in and that sometimes they're in conflict? >> well, i certainly think that that's obvious. we have different districts. i think, you know, virginia's had a 0% growth in large part because of sequester cuts which i think can endanger our national security as well as jobs locally. so i thought that was an important priority and i think a lot of our virginia delegation thinks that. >> i will leave it there. it's a new day in the house.

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>> you have been critical of mark zucker burke of facebook wanted to increase the number of the h1b. >> i was not at all critical. i'm all in favor of keeping talented people here so they can go to work in silicon valley. >> you're in favor -- >> i'm not at all critical of him. >> where did i read this and come up with this -- >> i don't know. you people write the stuff. >> well, in this case, it's not correct. as cnbc's becky quick said later the person that wrote the fstuf was donald trump because she found it on his website. mark zuckerberg's senator rubio has a goil triple h-1bs visas that would decimate women and minorities. it doesn't much sound like it on his website. so either he didn't know he wrote that or somebody wrote it in his name or he forgot or he straight up lied. marco rubio, who deflected this criticism of whether the way

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time for the lid. first it was marco rubio hearing a call to quit the senate based in fort lauderdale. now the "new york times" editorial board is making a shar call in the opposite direction calling on chris christie to quit the presidential race to focus on his job of governor of new jersey. i will say this the news section and the editorial page have nothing to do with each other. with that i will go to rammish

first. is something like this is the fact that governor christie hasn't been governing the state that often, does that matter in his presidential race? >> i think it hurts him at home but i don't think it matters. i think he has had two good pieces of news. now the new yo"new york times" editorial page is attacking him. it sounds a little bit too on the nose about the way his presidential campaign has been going. >> beating up the press, the "new york times" if you are a republican, nbc news, it feeds the base in a weird way it might help. >> it gets him more attention and he was having fun with it on twitter. there is always a very interesting and sometimes tense relationship between covering a candidate most closely when they go national.

that is part of what they are seeing with marco rubio. >> let's go back to the jeb bush story. you are as plugged in as anybody. what are you hearing from bush supporting kurld? is it a full fledge panic? >> it is gloomy. people are very worried. people were looking for an eye for improvement. they really felt disappointed, discouraged. there is a lot of affection among republican establishment donors for the bush family and pride for what they have stood for. you not going to have a lot of external lashing out. >> where are you guys at on this? >> well, national review hasn't endorsed anybody. we see a lot to like in a lot of

different candidates. i myself my wife works for the jeb bush campaign. a couple of months ago jeb bush i understand i'm not going to be handed this, i have to go earn it. it's one thing to say that. it's another to actually experience that and what that means. and i think that is what the campaign has been going through. >> when you watched last night's debate do you feel like clarity was brought to the race there is carson, trump and cruz waiting in the wings. there is rubio, maybe kasich and christie and then this unknown about jeb . is that where things have sorted out and sort of everybody else is on the periphery? >> i think that's fair. it does strike me how much less trump has dominated each debate as we have moved on, that there

is a sense in which he is not the story line anymore in a way that i think is going to be pretty harmful to him as things keep going. i think that cruz and rubio have the best nights last night and that confirms what people already were thinking. >> i do think it's a little worrisome for the democrats the fact we are talking a lot about rubio as somebody -- it's easy to mock and this time you have two people coming out who seem -- >> there was some order maybe being brought to this republican ra race. you can see his skill, marco rubio. >> marco rubio we heard about

this talent for so long and we saw the potential come forward and surface last night. >> thank you both. a lot to chew on over the weekend. kind of glad i get to interview a guy named jeb bush this weekend. we will be back friday. steve kornacki picks up our coverage right now. right now on msnbc, is jeb bush's campaign on life support after last night's debate? trying to recover from a poor performance. >> it's not on life support. we have the most money. we have the greatest organization. we're doing fine. >> national gop front runner ben carson calling for a change in future republican debates less than 24 hours after his reserved performance on the stage. >> paul ryan of the state of wisconsin having received the majority of the votes cast is