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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. follow lock-up producers and crews as they go behind the walls of america's prisons and jails, with scenes you've never seen. "lockup: raw." most of the inmates we meet inside county jails are only accused of crimes. and are awaiting trial at the resolution of their cases. but others are convicted. and awaiting sentencing or
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transferred to state prison. some of them have committed murder. their stories and the relationships they form both inside and outside of jail often take unexpected turns. >> you're going to miss me when i'm gone, aren't you? >> i'm going to miss you like a hemorrhoid. >> we met david at the bergen county jail in hackensack new jersey while he was awaiting sentencing for the beautiful strangulation murder of his girlfriend. he described the murder in cold-blooded terms. >> that's when i grabbed her, boom. and i started choking her, she was trying to shake and move and she a is looking at me, shaking her head, no, going like this. i kept choking her and choking her. >> inside jail, staff considered him a threat to not only others, but to himself. shortly after his arrest he used a razor blade do slit his throat in an apparent suicide attempt. >> i believe that david gadle is one of the most dangerous
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inmates we've ever dealt with here. he is very intelligent. he can be narcissistic. self-agrandizing and be manipulative to the point where he can convince you of just about anything. >> i felt david would try to engage me with either humor or a certain amount of what he perceived to be charm. i think he was hoping that his story and he would come across better. if i was on his side while we were filming him. i also angered him a number of times because i was doing my job and he would cross boundaries in terms of his behavior in the jail and i thought could put other people at risk. >> one such instance occurred shortly after a routine shakedown of godle's sell for contraband. officers turned up nothing unusual. but goodell did have something to hide. >> the staff was finished shaking down the various cells.
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i was downstairs in the day room and brian was wrapping up filming with goodell up in his cell. >> once officers left, the photographer was alone with goodell who decided to reveal his secret. >> do they see the film. >> who? >> the officers. >> no. >> they don't see the film? >> no. >> i was filming post shakedown. and he kind of got my attention, he's like check this out, this is what they didn't find. >> see the soap, right? it looks like normal soap, right? you open it. you see right there? see right there? >> he starts digging in to what looks to be a new bar of soap and he's digging and digging. >> it's a razor. >> boom, there's the reveal of a razor blade in this bar of soap. >> take it out when you need to use it. you hear me. but that just goes to show you.
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they search for nothing, you know what i mean? we got nothing better to do, but sit here and think. you. >> you name it, i've seen it as far as they're hiding contraband but this beyond as far as what i knew about concealing couldn't t ra band. this was flawless. >> we wear little ear pieces so we can be aware of what's being filmed. even if i'm not visually seeing what's on film. i can hear what's going on. so i immediately went upstairs. i walked to his cell door and the second david looked at me he was like a child who just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. >> i knew they ynt going to find it, that's why i wasn't nervous, you know what i mean. i'm not going to do anything stupid with it. >> brian had stopped filming and i asked him, with what are you doing? and he said i'm just showing where i hid a razor blade.
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that was extremely alarming. he was very open about his ability to cause violence to people. and i thought, he's a desperate guy. he was facing a long period of time. who knew what he could do? >> i just took it out of the soap, it's a razor. >> razor. >> okay. you know, they think i'm going to do something. you know what i mean, i'm not. i had this just in case, in case somebody acted stupid. in case you need to use a razor, i wasn't going to use it on myself, you know what i mean. >> in case somebody acts stupid. >> fight somebody, come in the room. can you put on the end of a spoon. fttt, that's it. so the razor is going into the toilet. >> how did you get it in the soap. it looked perfect. >> i had a lot of time. i dug into it. and then i took pieces out that
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was broken down. i mashed them in there, i wet it and reshaped it. stuck it back in here and i used tape. because tape is clear, so it looks like it's part of the seal. there you have it. >> look at this other bar of soap. >> same thing. >> it's sealed. >> yeah. >> no tape on it? >> a real bar of soap? >> yeah. >> you promise me? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> for me, i felt responsible. and he was pretty upset. he was upset with me. but i explained, i'm not going to let you hurt somebody else and i certainly wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself in a bad moment so in david goodell's case, he's an admitted murderer. so obviously i wouldn't see that secret. >> because officers didn't see the razor blade prior to goodell flushing it and since he was already housed in a
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high-security unit with no privileges, jailers didn't take any further action against him. but said they would check his soap and other items more frequently and thoroughly. goodell, however, was not done surprising us. >> are you here to see david goodell? >> one of his biggest surprises came in the form of a frequent visitor. >> david and i are friends. i'm kind of like a mother to him. i see him almost like a son and i see a very different david and that the david who committed the crime. >> coming up, the woman who took david goodell under her wing. but first -- >> i noticed a door open and one of my best friends from high school, mother walked in. and his brother walked in, right after. >> while covering the sentencing of a convicted murderer, a lockup field team discover as shocking personal connection to the case.
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some of the most difficult stories for us to cover on "lockup" are those involving inmates who have committed murder. we're very careful about how we tell these stories. especially being sensitive to the friends and families of the victims. >> when we shot "lockup" extended stay at the louisville department of corrections in kentucky. we were surprised to encounter one particular surviving family member of a murder victim. >> it will be two years on september 7th that i got a call from the coroner's office, telling me my brother had passed away. my brother had health issues and i would was expecting quite possibly to be notified of a natural death. but when he told me the case was going to be classified as a homicide, that really took me back. >> when we met chad bishop. he had just completed his 12th
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year as a corrections officer in louisville. most of the past two years the man who murdered his brother was incarcerated in the very jail in which bishop worked. dennis hall, not only admitted to killing office ever bishop's brother, but cashing his social security checks and concealing the body for weeks in the basement of the house they shared. >> i'm 50 years old. my life ain't been a whole lot of anything, i've really messed up my life. i've been in and out of jail. in and out of prisons, i get a good job, i would start doing dope and lose it. just basically a three-time loser. thisses is the last time, though. because this is going to take me to prison for a long time. >> first thing i wanted to do is to take justice into my own hands, but i decided against that. >> near the end of our shoot in
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louisville. officer bishop would get a sense of justice when he and his family appeared in court for hall's sentencing. it was at that moment that a member of our production crew suddenly realized that he, too, had a personal connection to the bishop family. it was production assistant jeremy stark. >> i noticed the door open, and one of my best friends from high school mother walked in. and his brother walked in. right after. >> it terms out that jeremy had spent part of his childhood in louisville and a very dear childhood friend of his happened to be the son of dennis hall's murder victim. we're in a courtroom, i can't talk out loud, but i was anxious to know what the situation was. so we're whispering back and forth. so i could figure out what this relationship was.
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>> jeffrey bishop's sons were two of my really good friends. >> this has never happened before to us. you know we've seen other kind of connections between inmaids and staff and what have you, but to have a member of our crew connected to a murderer that we've been profiling through the victim's family. was shocking to me. >> i didn't know their dad had been killed. i haven't been in touch with them that much the last couple of years. so just sucked, you know you're walking in. i'm trying to do my job and i had no idea it was their dad. but so they walk in and my heart just sank. >> jeremy didn't initially make the connection that officer bishop, who we had been filming with, was actually his friend's
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family. that related to one of his close friends growing up. officer bishop remembered jeremy growing up. and going to the kids' birthday parties and being part of their lives. >> jeremy was there when i forgot which one's birthday it was, they had the ninja turtle show up years ago, i got pictures of that. >> i spent more weekends at their house, than i did with my own parents, i used to damn near live there. >> he was real glad to see you. glad to see you're doing good, too. >> off-camera i talked to jeremy to see if he was going to be okay. having to deal with dennis hall down the line. i knew we had more to film and he assured me he was fine. jeremy was great, very professional. he never indicated to dennis hall that he knew the victim. >> hall was sentenced to 40 years in state prison.
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our extended stay production team experienced the strange twist that the louisville metro department of corrections jail when our production assistant, jeremy stark, realized that dennis hall's murder victim was the father of a childhood friend. hall was sentenced to 40 years in state prison, but was still at the jail for several weeks awaiting transfer. after a break in our shooting schedule, we visited him again and discovered another twist. >> what i noticed a bump on my neck, they immediately got blood tests and x-rays and got a biopsy done. i was diagnosed with cancer. trying to think of the name of it. hodgkins. hodgkins disease. >> when we caught up with dennis
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hall again, there was a marked difference in his appearance. he looked like somebody who was going through chemotherapy. but he seemed in really good spirits. >> really nice at the cancer treatment place. good people. they treat you like a human being. instead of an inmate. >> what's going on with the cancer? >> i guess it's going away. i used to have a big knot on my neck. it's all gone. >> you think you might be having what kind of treatment on the street versus here? >> i wouldn't know. i don't know if they would have treated me or not. i don't know if they would have took me as a patient without no money or anything. >> had he not come to jail, he could very well have died from this cancer. i don't even know if it would have been diagnosed if he was on the streets. it was only because he was in
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jail and able to get health care that he could get treatment. the irony is that dennis hall took a life and that in fact saved his life. >> because he went to jail and was able to receive medical care. >> maybe it did save my life, going to jail. >> in hackensack, new jersey, the story of another convicted murderer would also take unexpected turns. the kind we find more often in jail rather than prison. >> one of the reasons i love "lockup" shooting inside county jails is because everybody is local. the inmates, the staff, come from the same city as opposed to a state prison. where inmates come from all over the state. it's amazing how many times inside county jails we find inmates have crossed paths with each other on the outside. and that could lead to some pretty compelling stories on the
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inside. and david goodell was no exception. >> this was 23 days before the homicide. >> david goodell kept pictures in his cell of the woman he admitted to tormenting and strangling to death. his former girlfriend, viviana tooly. >> if i get a messed-up daughter. i like to remember her, in a happier sense. like -- you know, yeah, i miss her. but you know, what happened, happened. that's what it is. >> goodell never expressed remorse in any of our interviews with him. but another inmate, louis pizi was broken up over the murder. he was supposed to have seen viviana the night she was killed. >> the only thing i have left of viviana is this prayer card. i went to the wake. and there was pretty upsetting
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to me. i didn't, i couldn't even go in the whole way. i was in far back in the line and when i seen her face i broke down in tears. and you know, i ran out of there. every time i look at it, i feel like i want to cry. but i hold it in and i pray. my exact saying to her was you still want to chill tonight? and she said, i can't, i'm not around. with a sad face. i didn't ask, are you all right or what was going on. that's why i kind of felt like it was my fault. i felt like i should have asked. i didn't think nothing of it. >> word spreads fast in the jail. i'm sure word got back to louis pizi that we were filling david goodell. he must have felt compelled to
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tell us, that he knew viviana. and confirmed that they did have a real relationship. not everybody would have a prayer card from a funeral inside their cell. you're allowed so few things to think this is one of the items that you're carrying with you, it really must have meant a lot to him. >> pizi said they never met goodell, and they were housed in separate units, but he did once see goodell in the jail from a distance. >> the way viviana described david to me is that he was a big tough guy. he didn't seem as a tough guy to me. in my eyes, i didn't see him hurting nothing. not even a fly. he was like a mouse to an elephant. >> david is a coward. he's a piece of [ bleep ]. it was wrong for what he did. >> not everyone would agree with pizi's description of goodell. coming up, david goodell gets a visit from the mother of a former girlfriend. but first -- >> he swung on me and we just got in a fight.
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brazilian officials say 25 people are missing after a dam burst this week triggering a massive mudslide. one confirmed death, but officials fear that could rise. authorities in colorado say it could take a month to sort out victims from offenders involved in a massive sexting scandal at canon high school. some pictures involving students as young as eighth grady wr found on phones at the campus. now back to "lockup." due do mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. the first day, inside a jail
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or prison is always a little daunting for a "lockup" field team. >> sorry do interrupt you guys. we're the msnbc "lockup" show. perhaps you've heard of us. >> they're tasked with finding stories and issues to cover. often from among thousands of inmates. >> it was no different at the cuyahoga corrections center in cleveland, ohio, a 34-year-old ryan miller, definitely stood out from the crowd. >> we met ryan miller when he ended up being in the background shot of something that brian was filming. he didn't have a shirt on, he was in his cell and he had this vast array of tattoos on his torso. they were pretty elaborate. brian asked, we like to film people's tattoos and brian asked him, can i do a little tattoo tour. >> my legs. >> my back represents like -- a
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lion is fearless. basically, that's what it is. >> ryan was a big guy. a really big guy. he was very pleasant with us. always kind of smiling. there was a softness about him despite his large frame. >> how much time did it take to you get all that? >> probably a few weeks, total. about three weeks. >> miller was facing serious charges. including aggravated murder. robbery and offenses against a human corpse. despite his not guilty plea, he spoke openly about the grisly manner in which he took another man's life. >> the second he told me that a hammer was used as the murder weapon, i thought, wow, this is going to be an interesting story. >> miller says he acted in self-defense when he and a friend got into an argument over money. >> swung on me and we just got
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in a fight. and i picked up a hammer and hit him about six times in the head. i didn't really feel or think anything at the time. we just hit him, bang bang bang and it was just -- like that was it, you know. and killed him. >> taking a human life to me is incomprehensible. it's the ultimate crime. it's fascinating, i'm always trying to figure out what's behind it, how did a human being get to this point that they could commit an act that atrocious and not seem to have any remorse about it. >> there's like a hole in the top of his head about the size of a grapefruit, approximately. like the skull like went into blood like it turned into liquid or something, i don't know. it was weird, just like the movies. no different from the movies. >> it's hard not to visualize
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that moment and wonder what that man suffered and how he suffered. but on the other hand, i want to understand, this person is of my species, what could drive somebody to a point that i personally can't imagine, but obviously it happens and it happens with great frequency. >> i clean up the blood and put him in his truck and i went and parked it. and that was it. i went and stayed with my son's mother. she didn't know what was going on. she didn't know what just happened. >> the victim's body remained in the parked truck for several days. >> look at the truck, we walked right by on the sidewalk, me and my son's mom and my son, walking him to school and i look at it. i'm like, damn, just, unreal. but it's like -- >> how many times did you pass that truck? >> probably like three or four times. >> the fact that he's passing by
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the decomposing body of his victim on a daily basis, how that didn't drive him insane, i'll never know, that was much more intriguing to me. >> acting on a tip, police track miller to the home of a friend where he had been staying. >> so i took him to the car, we got to the car we pulled up, they said where's the body at. i said he's in the back seat. that was that. >> i think the value of listening to anybody's description of committing murder is for people who deal with that population to try to understand that mind and get a better sense of who that person is, in order to try to prevent it in the future. if you're able to do this, and feel nothing about it, then what would prevent you from doing it again. when something didn't go your way. >> it's fascinating you have no remorse about taking a life. what about his family? what about people who love him or care about him? >> sorry about their luck. >> after his arrest, miller
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developed a relationship with the woman he had known on the outside. >> i'm involved with someone. she takes care of me. she helps me you know keep my spirits up and keep a smile on my face. she puts money on my books to help me, that way i can just not go without, you know. >> every time she sends me a card, i read it and put it up along here. i look at them all the time. i know somebody's thinking about me, somebody loves me. >> we were interested to meet the woman who fell in love with miller. and a short time later we would. when deanna turner was booked into the jail herself. >> you started writing to him when he was incarcerated here for the current charge? >> yup. i knew nobody would talk to him because of his charges. i knew he was pretty much alone.
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we just kind of fell in love. like instantly. >> ain't nothing going to happen to my relationship, that's my baby. whether i get life. i believe that, in my heart. >> thinking of you always, my sweet lady. >> he's not a mean person, he's like a big teddy bear. i know what his charges are and i can imagine what people think about him. but i know that's not him. >> what happened it was like a fight that went too far. the guy ended up dying from it. next thing i know, ryan's in jail. >> is that what he tells you? >> for the most part, yes. i've read his court docket. so i know what they say happened. i believe him. >> turner says she's been to
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jail more than a dozen times for crimes she committed to support a heroin addiction. she was back in jail for violating probation on prior convictions of forgery, attempted aggravated theft and receiving stolen property. she turned herself into police at miller's urging. >> he kept telling me, you can't come see me if you have a warrant. he kept telling me, you need to go get it taken care of. it's nothing, go and do it, it took him about two weeks to talk me into it. i finally agreed, i came and saw him one last time and turned myself in after the visit. >> if it wasn't for ryan, i would not be sitting in jail, i would be running. i would not have turned myself in and i would not have stopped using, but i did it for him. for ryan. >> turner was eligible for up to 18 months in state prison for violating probation. if found guilty, miller was facing the prospect of life in
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prison. but he still held out hope for the relationship. >> knowing what's going to happen to me came eight months, you know. >> i would probably be heartbroken if he got life without parole. i know then he would never come home, ever. i still love him. >> for emotional reasons, financial reasons, psychological reasons, it's always to an inmate's advantage to have an outside connection. and i think he realized this woman was not going anywhere. she made it very clear, no matter what he got, as a sentence, she was going to stand by his side and that's something i'm sure that appealed to him. >> i've never felt like this about anybody before. i can't get him out of my mind. like he's constantly, i think about him, 24/7. i want to see him. and he's right here.
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he's like seven floors up. and i still can't see him. it's driving me nuts. >> ryan miller was later found guilty and sentenced to 37 years to life. deanna turner returned to prison for seven months, for her probation violation and was then released. two and a half years after our final shoot with turner, she was out of prison and told us her relationship with miller was continuing and that they planned to marry. coming up -- >> nobody understands. >> nobody, whatever. >> and they never will. and that's okay. >> the woman who made a special connection with david goodell. and the dog who made a special connection with our production team. with respect to fast and efficient transportation. it's kind of a losing proposition to keep going this way.
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dangerous and manipulative inmate. the only time he seemed to show any regret over killing his 21-year-old former girlfriend, viviana tooly, was when he was meeting with a case manager to prepare for his sentencing hearing in which he was facing anywhere from 30 to 45 years in prison. >> i'm sorry for what i did. >> even then, he admitted it was all for show. >> so that's what i'm going to tell them. because my plea is open from 30 to 45. so if there's any type of way i can weasel my way out of a year or two it's worth it. and if 2 doesn't work out, i tried. >> then we met someone else who had an entirely different opinion of david goodell. judy, who asked that we not use her last name. is the mother of a woman goodell used to date and a frequent visitor. >> i have sort of become his advocate/surrogate mother. and i'm here to visit him. >> what did you do to yourself. >> what do you mean?
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>> you have no hair. >> i cut it off. >> you look different. >> you look good. >> thank you. >> i try to come every week. but i talk to david every day on the phone, he'll call me more than once a day when he's freaking out about something. because i can talk him down very easily. what's happened with your face. >> i butchered myself trying to shave real quick. i was a mess, i had a beard. >> i know, now you're bald. not very becoming. >> no? >> no, don't do the bald thing again. it makes you look more like a criminal. >> really? >> yeah. >> because i knew david from filming with him and i truly felt that he was not only an insincere person, he remained a dangerous person. i was really eager to try to figure out what judy saw in david. to allow for this kind of friendship. she was unwavering in her
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support of david. >> ten years later, judy said when david briefly dated her daughter. she said when she heard about the murder and david's arrest, she had a deep emotion. >> it was very perplexing, i didn't know why this was happening, i was not close to david. the end result was, i dink ee e determined i was meant to get in contact with him. >> at first she just wrote to him and then began to visit. >> my daughter is not in any way, shape or form approving of my relationship with david. >> it's caused much discourse between us. i know what he did. i don't condone it i don't accept it. it's just part of him that i don't know. david and i have a connection. i don't know how it got there, i can't begin to explain it. but there is a spiritual connection between david and i, i am very spiritual and i have a very deep faith. and that faith has brought me to david. and i will not turn my back on
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that faith, nor will i turn my back on david. >> i consider her like my best friend. kind of like a mother/friend figure. she is a lot older than me, her presence for me is comforting, that's why i value it. >> nobody understands that. >> nobody. >> and they never will and that's okay. >> most people don't understand themselves. >> i haven't had a relationship like that. it's good, it's healthy, it works for me, it works for her. >> no more tattoos on your face. >> i would like two. >> no, come on, david, you look like a freak. >> she's been there since day one. some of my own friends haven't been there because of the severity of the crime, they knew my girlfriend. >> goodell told judy about his interviews for "lockup." >> i was brutally honest about the situation. how i felt about it. because you know what, you want me to lie? i'm not going to do that.
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there's nothing nice about murder. >> no, there's nothing nice about murder. but there is a lot nice about you, david. you could have shown those parts. >> he told me very explicitly, what had happened. almost too explicitly and i told him enough. i don't want to hear the specifics. >> to me, he qualifies as a sociopath. i want to know your opinion. >> that's very interesting, to me he does not qualify as a sociopath. to me, i see compassion in him. i'm not denying that his acts make him appear that way. like from commissary money, maybe $200 a month. i'll put money on the phone, maybe another $50. it's not a hardship for me at this point. it's part of my life and what i'll do. as long as i'm able to do it. when you look at yourself, who do you see? >> i see a good person with [ bleep ] background. like i went through a lot of
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[ bleep ]. am i happy with who i am? absolutely. did i do something i shouldn't have done? of course. >> you can justify it in your head? you do. >> can i justify it in my head? absolutely. is that normal? no, no, it's not. >> that's the part where we will never, ever come to agreement on. i can't understand that. >> that's also part of like the street life, the loyalty thing. i'm taking you for face value, i understand you accept it we're from different worlds, i could never accept that i accept you unconditionally. but i can't accept what you did unconditionally. >> i know that. >> a lot of these cases, a lot of the women i meet who have these kinds of relationships with inmates, they always say the same thing. i see another side of him. i can see through that tough exterior, they always feel like they hold that special key, that certain key to that person's
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real heart which they feel is a good heart. but inevitably, i think that person will show his real self. in the case of david goodell, even though he's told us and said on camera, i'm basically a good person, he's not. that doesn't mean he might not have a couple of good qualities, but at the end of the day, he calculated a murder and committed a murder. and still feels justified in that murder. i believe he would do it again. frankly, if he were out. >> do i love her yet? absolutely. i got a lot of love for her. >> loved ones in your life have paid a pretty high price for betraying your trust or how you perceive your trust to be betrayed, right? did anything bad happen to judy? >> never. never. slees never done anything but be there for me. >> if something changed in her life and she was unable to
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maintain this relationship, would it be a betrayal to you? >> no, i mean, whatever she does, i would trust that she does a good reason. she's never shown me anything different. there's a different set of rules for people in the street and there's good law, abiding citizens. like you got some old lady she witnesses a crime out her window. she's not in the street. she's not going to kill snitches she not part of that lifestyle, so that doesn't apply to her. but somebody else that's in that life and knows about that life and they know what they're into, it's a whole different set of rules. >> i truly believe that i will be here with david in some way, until the day i die. >> you're going to call me late centre. >> yeah. >> all right and i guess i won't see you until next week. all right, bye-bye. >> bye. >> do you love david? >> yes, i would have to say that on some level, i do love david.
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more from a -- i guess more of a maternal love than athing else. >> coming up, in the up, in thed of jail, i different sort of relationship forms. one between a cameraman and a canine. we live in a pick and choose world.
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>> some of lock up's most compelling stories revolve around the relationships that form both inside and outside the walls. in order 20 capture them, our field team develops relationships as well. for director of photography brian kelly, some of those have a way of following him home. chatham county detention center in georgia, the new hope program allows those with nonviolent
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charges work with dogs at risk of being euthanized. they live with and care for and train the dogs to become fit for adoption. >> you have to get your girlie voice on. good boy. good girl. it was interesting to watch them see the satisfaction that they were getting from being part of this program. >> it makes the time go easy. >> my opinion, i think it was valuable because it's like they are giving back. they are worth something. it was something fun to shoot. it wasn't like being in one of the units where people are yelling and explaining. it was people speaking in high pitched voices to dogs. >> one of the biggest challenges
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for me as the field producer was to corral the crew and get everybody together. everybody wanted to pet the dogs or play with the dogs. i can't tell you how many times i looked over and saw brian's camera on the ground and he is petting a dog instead of filming. >> you have many times to pet the dogs. >> attention. this poor dog. >> good dog! >> jake was just as guilty as the rest of us. you question my professionalism doing my job by putting the camera down? that doesn't happen. >> beautiful dog. >> oh, yes. >> right away brian seemed to start a relationship with one of the dogs. >> you going to adopt another animal. >> here adopted a cat from a prison. >> eight years earlier in
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alabama, we told the story of fluffy, a stray cat the inmates found and the officers tried to remove from the grounds. >> this is my cat. >> fluffy had a litter of kittens at the prison and brian decided to take one home to his family in california. >> it's that easy. >> he named it doc for department of corrections. before long, this dog had brian thinking about adopting a big sister. >> why do you like this dog so much? >> i have no idea. >> there was a connection when i came into the unit. she would come up to me. >> you see the camera looking at you? >> i see brian. >> it became clear brian was going to adopt trudy. he bonded with her.
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i don't think there was a question she was coming home with us on one of the flights. >> my family and i talked about getting a dog at some point. i had to get them to trust me and i sent them photos and described the dog to a t and they trusted me. when i told darrell that i was going to adopt her, he was happy to see her get adopted out for sure. >> i'm here to adopt truvy. >> excellent! >> soon to be changed to -- possibly ruby. >> did you know right away you were going to adopt her? >> no. i tried to talk myself out of it quite a bit actually. but she seems like a really, really good dog. >> brian, i wish i could adopt
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you. >> i'm nervous. >> same here. >> i'm not really nervous. not nervous, but a little apprehensive because it's a big commitment. >> here she is. >> what's up? you surprised a member of the crew adopted one of the dogs? >> i am. i didn't think he was going to do it. >> will he like california? >> who wouldn't like california? >> true. >> she was a well-behaved dog. more of an issue was the people on the airline dealing with the equipment and this dog. she was chill throughout the
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whole thing. >> we named her ruby after ruby tuesday, the rolling stones song. she has been an outstanding dog. doc is a prison cat and rules the house for sure. he doesn't have a lot of patience for ruby. ruby loves to play. ruby wants to get in doc's face and rough house with doc, but he wants nothing to do with her. you can tell doc doesn't have time for this dog, you know? but ruby is an amazing dog. from the minute i met her, i felt like she would be a good fit for the family.
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>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> follow lock up producers and crews as they go behind the walls of america's prisons and jails to scenes you have never seen. lock up raw. >> much of lock up extended stay is shot inside our nation's county jails. it's in jails as opposed to prisons that they are only accused of crimes and waiting for resolution at the end of the cases. these days, the stays are

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