it's 5:30 on the east coast, 2:30 out west, and this is "way too early." good morning, everybody. it's wednesday, november 11th, and i'm amy holmes. it was a respectful clash of ideas last night in the fourth round of republican presidential debates. but that doesn't mean it didn't get heated. like when senator rand paul challenged marco rubio over the size and scope of government, after rubio defended his proposal for a new child tax credit. >> we have to decide what is conservative and what isn't conservative. is it fiscally conservative to have a trillion dollar expenditure? we're not talking about giving people back their tax money.

he's talking about giving people money they didn't pay. it's a welfare transfer payment. add that to marco's plan for a trillion dollars in new military spending, and you get something that looks to me not very conservative. >> if you invest that money in a business you get to write it off your taxes but if you invest it in your children, in the future of america, in strengthening your family, we're not going to recognize that in our tax code? the family is the most important institution -- >> nevertheless it's not very -- >> yes, i do want to rebuild the american military. i know that rand is a committed isolationist. i'm not. i believe the world is a stronger and a better place when the united states is the strongest military power in the world. >> marco, marco, how is it conservative, how is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the federal government that you're not paying for? >> because -- >> how is it conservative, how is it conservative to add a trillion dollars in military expenditures? you cannot be a conservative if you're going to keep promoting new programs that you're not going to pay for. >> i do not think we are any

safer from bankruptcy court, as we go further and further into debt, we become less and less safe. >> the debate centered on economics, as you heard, but differences in foreign policy showed rifts between the candidates, as well. especially when donald trump and jeb bush sparred over america's role in the world. >> what does president trump do in response to russia's aggression? >> well, first of all, it's not only russia. we have problems with north korea, where they actually have nuclear weapons. you know, nobody talks about it. we talk about iran, and that's one of the worst deals ever made, as far as syria, i like, if putin wants to go in, and i got to know him very well because we were both on "60 minu minutes." we were stable mates and we did very well that night. but -- you know that. but, if putin wants to go and knock the hell out of isis, i am all for it, 100%, and i can't understand how anybody would be against it. >> they're not doing it -- >> they blew up. hold it. wait a minute.

they blew up a russian airplane. he cannot be in love with these people. he's going in and we can go in and everybody should go in. they say keep going, keep going, keep going you dummies, protect -- and we have to get smart. we can't continue to be the policemen of the world. >> we're not going to be the world's policemen but we sure as heck better be the world's leader. there's a huge difference. without us leading, voids are filled. and the idea that it is a good idea for putin to be in syria, let isis take out assad and then putin will take out isis, that's like a board game. that's like playing monopoly or something. that's not how the real world works. >> donald trump's promise to round up and remove millions of undocumented imgrants also became a flashpoint when governor john kasich cut in. >> the people think that we are going to ship 11 million people who are law-abiding, who are in this country, and somehow pick them up at their house and ship

them out of mexico -- to mexico? think about the families. think about the children. come on, folks, we all know you can't pick them up and ship them across, back across the border. it's a silly argument. it's not an adult argument. it makes no sense. >> all i can say -- is you're lucky in ohio that you struck oil. that's one thing. let me just tell you that dwight eisenhower, good president, great president, people liked him, i like ike, right, the expression, i like ike, moved a million and a half illegal immigrants out of this country. we have no choice. >> no, he didn't -- >> let me -- >> governor bush -- >> just -- >> what -- >> you're not going to have my back. i'm going to have my back. >> i've got a couple things here. first of all -- >> governor -- >> you should let jeb speak -- >> no, it's unfair. >> governor -- >> hold on. >> governor bush >> thank you, donald for

allowing me to speak at the debate. that's really nice of you. really appreciate that. generous man you are. >> but jeb bush, former florida governor, stood up to trump immigration plan, as well. >> to send them back, 500,000 a month, is just not possible. and it's not embracing american values. and it would tear communities apart. and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country that i know america is. and even having this conversation sends a powerful signal, they're doing high fives in the clinton campaign right now when they hear this. that's the problem with this. we have to win the presidency, and the way you win the presidency is that practical plans. lay them out there. what we need to do is allow people to earn legal status where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't commit crimes, where they learn english, and over an extended period of time they earn legal status. that's the path, a proper path to make it work. >> before the debate, ted cruz's

campaign penned an op-ed online calling for the elimination of five federal bureaucracies. but when it came time to debate time cruz's answer reminded some of a rick -- rick perry moment from four years ago. >> today, we rolled out a spending plan, $500 billion in specific cuts. five major agencies that i would eliminate. the irs, the department of commerce, the department of energy, the department of commerce, and hud. >> now, some moments for you to the undercard debate, louisiana governor bobby jindal spent much of the night on the attack. mostly against new jersey governor chris christie. >> under your leadership in new jersey, your budget's gone up 15%. it's gone down 26% in louisiana. >> you know the differences between me and bobby jindal, we can talk about those and obviously bobby wants to spend a lot of time tonight talking about that. i'll tell you what i want to talk about. i want to talk about what's going to happen to this country

if we have another four years of barack obama's policies. >> records matter. yes, we've got to beat hillary clinton, but chris it's also true that you expanded food stamps at a time that we've got record numbers of americans on food stamps. it's also true you caved in to obamacare, you expanded medicaid. >> it's interesting. i complimented bobby. imagine how much time he'd want if i actually criticized him. the fact is, he's done a nice job down in louisiana. i don't have any problem with the job he's done. i've cut spending $2 billion, except for our pension and healthcare in new jersey, which is driven predominantly by obamacare. >> i'll give you a ribbon or participation and a juice box but in the real world it's about results. >> while christie refused to criticize jindal or any of the republican opponents, he centered his attacks on an opponent they could all agree on, hillary clinton. >> if you think that mike huckabee won't be the kind of president who will cut back spending or chris christie, or john kasich, wait until you see what hillary clinton will do to this country and how she will drown us in debt.

she is the real adversary tonight, and we better stay focused as republicans on her. the bottom line is, believe me, hillary clinton's coming for your wallet, everybody. don't worry about huckabee or jindal, worry about her. remember why we're in the position we're in with china. because an absolutely weak and feckless foreign policy that was engineered by hillary clinton and barack obama. that's why we're in the position we're in. secretary clinton says there's no crisis at the v.a., that sends a long and hard message to our veterans that she doesn't get it, and she doesn't respect their service. i saw the most disgraceful thing i've seen in this entire campaign a few weeks ago. hillary clinton was asked, the enemy she's most proud of. and she said republicans. in a world where we have al qaeda and isis, the mullahs in iran, and vladimir putin, the woman who asks to run and represent all of the united states says that her greatest enemies are people like you in this audience and us here.

>> while the republican presidential candidates were preparing for their fourth debate, democratic front-runner hillary clinton was in new hampshire rolling out her new plan to reform the veteran's administration. on the eve of veterans day, clinton said that as president she'd have a zero tolerance policy for the abuses seen in recent years. she also hit back at an overhaul plan proposed by some of her republican opponents. >> as we work to improve the v.a., i will fight, as long and hard as it takes, to prevent republicans from privatizing it as part of a misguided, ideological crusade. you know, we've seen how they try to seize on anything they can do to advance this goal of theirs, which will throw our vets into the private insurance market. >> clinton's remarks come as a new bipartisan poll from the

vets voice foundation shows that a majority of veterans oppose plans to privatize the v.a. 64% of the 800 veterans polled said that they're against privatization, while just 29% say they support it. meanwhile clinton is facing criticism after laughing off a man at the same event who said he wished he could strangle carly fiorina. the man, a vietnam veteran who said he worked at hewlett-packard, explained that he was angry with fiorina after being laid off from his job. >> she laid off over 40,000 people. and she says she's a great ceo. every time i see her on tv i want to reach through and strangle her. you know, i know that doesn't sound very nice. >> i wouldn't mess with you. >> following the roundtable the rnc released a statement that reads in part, quote, jokes about committing acts of violence against women are

always in poor taste, and should be condemned every time. it's clear women just can't count on hillary clinton to stand up for them. she should apologize immediately. and the clinton campaign released a statement of its own saying, quote, hillary clinton doesn't hesitate to speak out against hateful or threatening rhetoric, but this vet did not intend to express either of those things, and republicans should not try to pretend otherwise. and former president jimmy carter has received some good news from his doctors. according to the carter center the 91-year-old's cancer treatments have been going well. and doctors say that there's no evidence that it has spread further. carter announcing in august that he'd been diagnosed with melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain. his doctors say testing will continue but the former president has, quote, a lot of reasons to be optimistic. up next, more from the republican presidential debate. plus, all bets are off. see who's now going after two of

the biggest players in fantasy sports. and extreme weather, blizzard warnings are now in effect for several states along with the threat of tornadoes. this is a live picture from denver right now. take a look on your screen and we will get the latest from bill karins when "way too early" comes right back. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should.

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themselves if they have to. and this morning investigators are trying to determine what caused a small plane to crash into an apartment complex in akron, ohio, that left as many as nine people dead. the plane was approaching a local airport when according to witnesses, it clipped utility wires, and plowed into the residential building. no one was inside the apartment at the time. >> i heard this noise, just like the plane just dropped out of the sky, and veered to the left, and plowed into the duplexes there, and it was just a mess, just a mass explosion. according to ohio state highway patrol, investigators are still trying to determine how many people were on the small business jet at the time of the crash. but multiple sources tell nbc affiliate wkyc that nine people were on board, and none are believed to have survived. in other news conference is scheduled for this afternoon. a university of missouri

professor is apologizing for her actions during a protest this week. yesterday we showed you this video of melissa click, an assistant professor of mass media at the school, who was caught on camera confronting a student journalist. click grabbed the camera and can be heard calling for some muscle to remove the journalist physically from the demonstration. it happened after the university president resigned over his handling of the racial issues on campus. well, she's now issue a statement saying in part, quote, i regret the language and strategy that i used, and sincerely apologize to the m.u. campus community and journalists at large for my behavior. click is a member of the communications department. she has also resigned from a courtesy appointment with the journalism school which is a separate department. time now for sports, and a big obstacle for the fantasy sports industry. new york attorney general eric schneiderman has ordered fan duel and draft kings to stop

doing business in his state. after determining that both fantasy -- both fantasy sports sites violate new york's laws against illegal gambling. draft kings says fantasy sports are games of skill, not gambling. while fan duel accused the attorney general of seeking press coverage. both nbc news parent company comcast and nbc sports are among the investors in fan duel. turning now to college football, and what could be trouble for lsu heisman trophy candidate leonard fournette. they're investigating whether the star's running back family violated ncaa rules over a website selling merchandise emblazoned with his catch phrase. the site reportedly set up by a man described as the family's manager was launched the week of last year's season opener but was shut down within 24 hours. it's against ncaa rules for athletes or their family members rather to profit from the athlete's name, image, or

likeness. there's no indication fournette took any money or received any incentives or benefits directly. now to a shake-up in the second week of college football's playoff rankings. after beating lsu on saturday alabama moves up to number two. notre dame also moves up a spot and into the top four as a result of that game, followed by undefeated iowa. now in the top ten at number five. clemson and ohio state hold steady at one and three respectively. while lsu falls back to number nine. and quick nfl update indianapolis quarterback andrew luck will miss the next two to six weeks with a lacerated kidney, and a partial tear of an abdominal muscle, ouch. luck reportedly sustained the injuries after taking a big hit in the fourth quarter of sunday's game. 40-year-old quarterback matt hasselbeck will fill in under center. now let's get a check on your weather with nbc meteorologist bill karins. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> i've heard like bruised kidneys before but lacerated

kidney. >> ew. >> how do you do that? >> i don't know. i guess playing football. >> sounds painful too. let me show you some of the pictures, we showed them to you a little while ago out of the denver area. we're now under moderate snow about half mile visibility and the winds are going to start picking up. right now right around 32 degrees. that's why it's like a heavier, wet snow. any leaves on the trees will we'll have to watch out for downed tree limbs as we go throughout the day, too. winds will pick up. nasty travel on a bunch of the interstates. northward out of denver or heading towards the east on intersate 76 or across 70, that's where the winds are going to pick up. blowing and drifting of snow. maybe only about two to five inches of snow but it will be blowing and drifting. we could get some drifts up to about a foot or two feet. that's why we have blizzard warnings here. interstate 70, interstate 80 do not include the denver area or north platte. more or less the rural areas as you head east past denver international airport. how much snow? the mountains, of course, will get a little bit more. denver only about one to three inches. cheyenne, two to four. and then again, not a huge

snowstorm, the winds are going to be the big story. we're going to see this huge wind storm into the central plains this afternoon. the areas of blue here will easily gust up to 30 miles per hour. 30-mile-per-hour winds, you get some minor power outages from downed branches. but we could see the winds pick up even further. you get to the purple shading, gusts up to 60 miles per hour. so that's like a strong tropical storm. that's when you start to get some trees falling down and more widespread power outages. and then late this afternoon, we have a watch carefully here northern missouri, illinois, and southern iowa, amy, we have enhanced risk of severe storms, possibility of tornadoes, maybe even one or two strong tornadoes. the sun sets early now 4:30, 5:00 so a lot of these storms will be going after dark. people won't even know they're there. that's where it gets really dangerous. >> but it will be very, very cold it sounds like. >> on the backside of the storm. the front side is warm and stormy. so this storm has it all. >> all right. thank you bill karins. we appreciate it. up next, more highlights from last night's republican

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and when you say janet yelling, i'm very familiar with what you mean. >> with that, let's take a look at some of the other debate headlines. low polling numbers kept him off the debate stage, but that didn't stop senator lindsey graham from sharing his thoughts. the south carolina republican posted his own commentary and fielded questions on the new app sidewire, also known as the twitter for politics. graham's first post, quote, my advice to the candidates tonight, no matter what, don't win the debate. they'll kick you off the stage. when asked where he was watching the debate, the senator responded, undisclosed location. live free or die. a reference to new hampshire, possibly? his senate pal john mccain also dropped in, posting, quote, glad to see my friend lindsey giving some straight talk on sidewire tonight as usual not holding back. to which graham responded can't believe you're still up. he ended the night saying, quote, thanks, sidewire, i enjoyed a debate where i could

have input and a glass of wine at the same time. elsewhere on social media, retired neurosurgeon ben carson was the most buzzed about candidate among facebook users. the most talked about topics were taxes, immigration, the minimum wage, jobs and health care. but the most popular social media moments of the evening had nothing to do with any of those issues. take a look. >> if you invest that money in a business you get to write it off your taxes but if you invest it in your children, in the future of america, in strengthening your family, we're not going to recognize that in our tax code? the family is the most important institution -- >> nevertheless it's not very -- >> yes, i do want to rebuild the american military. i know that rand is a committed isolationist. i'm not. i believe the world is a stronger and a better place when the united states is the strongest military power in the world. >> marco, marco, how is it conservative, how is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the federal government that you're not paying for. how is it conservative -- how is it conservative to add a trillion dollars in military

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