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carnage in paris, massacre in paris, the front page describes it as war in the middle of paris. this is the approximate timelines from paris. details are fluid and still developing. here is what we have established that the hour. french media is reporting at least six separate highly coordinated aid tacks took place from the course of about three hours at multiple sites. first occurred at about 9:30 p.m. local time when three bombs reportedly went off near the area, a national stadium in the paris suburbs with 80,000. it appears at least one and possibly all three of these explosions of a suicide bomb. the stadium was packed from exhibition soccer match between france and germany. and one of the people in attendance was french president francios hollande who was evacuated after the bombs went off.
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still unclear if there was any casualties from the explosions, but at least one could be heard during last night's game. [ explosions ] it was so loud inside the stadium at that moment, that our witnesses say, that explosion was essentially shrugged off as a possible fire cracker. after the attack began at the stadium, multiple reports of gunmen who opened fire at restaurants and caves in the east of paris. but at least one of those incidents occurring in the 11th mall, a cambodian restaurant. according to a paris prosecutor, there appeared to have been four separate restaurants, all centered in the young urban area of paris, with much night life on a warm, friday night, prosecutor says approximately 38 people were killed at those
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eateries, and many more were seriously injured. then, around 10:15 local time, it is believed that the deadliest of the attacks began at the bataclan concert hall. also in the tenth and eleventh, about a half mile from the site of january's "charlie hebdo" massacre. several hundred people at the venue were attending a sold-out concert by an american band, the eagles of death metal. according to reports, multiple attackers armed with guns opened fire, wordlessly inside the concert hall and took hostages. just after midnight local time, french special forces launched an assault on the bataclan to free those hostages. at that point, paris police say some of the attackers detonated suicide belts. at least 87 people were killed inside the concert hall and as many as 40 are dead in other locations around paris. in addition, french media organization canal is reporting
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200 people have been wounded with 80 suffering very serious injuries. nbc news is still trying to confirm those numbers. paris police chief says all attackers are believed to be dead. they're actively searching for accomplic accomplices. french officials say eight attackers were killed, seven in suicide bombings, no group has taken responsibility for the l attacks as of yet. france is in a full state of emergency public borders tightened, military personnel deployed, and many public spaces in france from schools, gyms, libraries to more have been ordered to remain close. in an address to the nation, francios hollande said we will lead a fight that will be ruthless. they must be certain that facing them is a term in france, united france, france together will not be moved, even if today we express inif i gnat or so proep
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this is the worst on french soil since the second world war. all right, joining us now by phone from paris is erin, erin is from new york city, she was at a restaurant just two doors down from one of the attacks. erin, describe for us what you went through tonight. what did you see and hear? >> reporte >> yeah, hi chris, there was a group of us in town. a few people came in right before we heard gunshots outside of the door and the people in the restaurant ran to make sure that the doors were shut and locked, but everyone hid under the table. we thought they were coming inside the restaurant because they were struggling to shut the door. it was the restaurant they targeted which was a couple of doors down, there was outdoor seating. >> it's clear from what you saw then that first in the moment you heard the gunshots and it was clear to you and clear to the owners who rushed to shut the door that the restaurant next door was the target, that
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this was not accidental. >> actually, we didn't know where they were going, it was just gunshots in the street, we couldn't see out. the simultaneously there were gunshots and rushing to shut the door. we were all getting under the table. and we weren't sure if they were going to try and barge into the restaurant, which was definitely something that crossed my mind or if they were going elsewhere, just shooting indiscriminately. it was really chaotic. >> when you are in that restaurant, with dozens of others, what's going through your head? >> it was just looking around at my friends and thinking, this could be a final moment. and so thankful that it wasn't, and so sad to hear what was going on elsewhere because at that moment, we didn't know if it was an isolated incident and we looked around and thought, hey, maybe something had happened in the street, then we got on twitter and saw there was something else happening in the stadium, then we saw there was another restaurant, and it became really clear that this
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was a far bigger and more coordinated series of attacks. >> how long did you stay in that restaurant? i mean obviously as the news ripples through paris, there's lockdowns happening all over. >> i was in that restaurant until 3:30 in the morning. so i got there around 9:20 and so it was about six hours that we were all there. and there were families with kids and no one knew where to go, and it actually took 20 minutes for, i mean, i'm guessing, but we didn't hear sire sirens, it felt lying 20 minutes. when the police did arrive, they locked down the street and were blocking it off because they were concerned that potentially the gunman was still there or that they were ian on the second floor. there were all the rumors and the information was very unclear. so the gunmen -- rather the police officers were keeping us where they were. >> i'm curious what you were saying, what you and your friends and others inside were saying as you are barricaded in
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this restaurant, and as you come down from the adrenaline of being so close to the attack, and then realize what's happening throughout paris, what was that conversation over those many hours like? >> well, it started off with us just being concerned that something had happened on the street, then as it evolved into something bigger, it was just heart-breaking. especially learning about the theater, and this particular neighborhood of paris is really useful. it's an interesting mix of people. everyone's outside, and it clearly was just in this -- targeted area where this was all happening. and so people were checking in with friends, there were a lot of people in town for different things, 70th anniversary, so people are in town. there's a lot of celebrating. and this certainly is going to change things. and we were all just incredibly sad and responded differently to the news. >> all right. erin, thank you for joining me. and i imagine its been a tremendously long night and i'm
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happy you're safe. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. let's now go to phil crowder, he's a washington correspondent for france 24, and phillip, what is the latest reporting from paris? >> well, most of the reporting i'm hearing is actually eyewitness accounts from my friends because i've obviously had to get in touch with all of my friends in paris and make they are safe. so far the news is good, of course, i don't know at this point who might have gone to this concert. it's also possible that somebody might have done. that is how we're trying to find out, but everybody is okay at this point. now the latest reporting from our reporters on the ground is that well paris is waking up to something very, very different because afterall, this is a country, and that is almost the most shocking thing. country that's in a state of emergency and that has closed its border, that is almost unheard of. and there isn't necessarily a curfew in place in paris. it's not officially a curfew, it's a recommendation rather to
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the inhabitants of paris and to the surrounding areas to stay indoors and that is still in place at this point. and it was during the whole situation that was happening in paris during the raid, on the bataclan, a club at the time as well, and this is a gigantic area where people have been told it's better for you to stay indoors. it it is 12,000 square kilometers, all of the areas, that is a 4,500 square miles where people have been told to be as safe as possible because afterall, the situation is not officially over. as you have reported, it seems like all of the alleged assail lanlts have died, but there is that possibility that accomplices could still be on the run. hence, gigantic police and military presence on the streets of paris tonight. >> so, do i understand this
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correctly, frervelg authorities have not issued a mandatory curfew, but asked people essentially if they don't need to go out, stay inside for the totality of the metro area of paris? >> absolutely. and that is really, really big metro area. that's a really big part of the country. there is no official curfew. there is of course that official state of emergency, that is a very, very rare thing to happen in paris. was it the first put in place in the war in algeria, and it was last put in place, but only renalally in one part of the country in 2005, you might remember, the urban violence and the riots back then, that was the very last time there was a state of emergency somewhere in france. this time around, it's nationwide. and maybe the most shocking thing is that the borders have been closed, france has closed its borders so that one essentially nobody can come in and nobody can leave the country at this point. according to to the french president, those who might want to harm the country further can
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now not come in, and those who might have already harmed paris and the possible accomplices in all of this, well, they won't be able to leave. as we said, this is certainly not over at this point. there is already a very large quantity of military personnel on the streets of paris. that is because the highest level of a terror threat was already in place since january 7th under the "charlie hebdo" attacks, and since, well a few hours ago, even more military members have been called on to the streets of paris, and of course, the surrounding suburbs and the surrounding areas as well and adding to that of course massive police presence. these are people, and this is a government who believe there is, of course, still a lot to be found out as you're said, no one has claimed responsibility for this yet. so we don't really know where to look for any claim of responsibility. there is none so far. so plenty of speculation at this point, but absolutely no
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confirmation as to what the motives might have been. >> all right, phillip crowder, thank you very much for that report. msnbc analyst and co-founder and director and analysis for flashpoint. leif, in terms of the details that we know, what strikes you about the characteristics of this attack? >> look, i think this attack is the hallmarks of a number of previous attacks that took place in europe and other places. you know, but, you know, i just wanted to say something real quick, which is what erin just said a little bit ago, this will definitely change things. she's absolutely right. and this is exactly what, you know, part of the tactic that some terror groups actual follow and their supporters which is to create this type of environment causing economic losses from damage to the tourism industry, security measures will be amly if ied in airports, lines will
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look just longer. this was coordinated to cause damage in multiple aspects. >> and we know that it appears their eight assailants, they did this over a large area of the city, extending into the near northern suburb where the national stadium was. the fact that francios hollande was in that stadium, how significant is that? >> i think that is very, very significant. again, just the sbim boll si of is it spawned so many different ways, they will view it as victory that not only targeted france in the deadly terror attack in france in recent memory, in the heart of the capitol, but also it took place essentially in hollande's backyard as he's enjoying a soccer match. this is, you know, sending a message to france that we can reach you, despite all of these
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security measures. and, you know, that's just extremely symbolic. >> you spend a fair amount of time reading the social media media accounts of jihadis from sects and factions. many of whom are active in syria or iraq or pledge allegiance to those groups. is there anything that strikes of the reaction of jihadi social media in the wake of paris? >> actually, they rejoiced pretty quickly, less than an hour, within essentially the first shot that was fired in paris. very prominent jihadist, and some of them we believe served in isis' media wings established the hashtag paris is burning in arabic. which went viral online with, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of pro-isis tweets celebrating these attacks. some individuals were
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essentially saying, you know, we told you we're going to get to you, to your heart. some were saying, you know, this was meant to happen. just as you kill people, you will be killed. referring to france's role in the u.s.-led coalition to target isis in syria and iraq. and the story goes on. and so, even on the deep and dark west environments of the internet that are not accessible to the public, jihadist rebels in this attack and celebrated with dozens of pages of comments circulating pictures and so on. >> all right, leif, thank you for joining us. next, heros accounts from the bataclan nightclub. >> people injured, there's just blood, and just never seen anything like that, especially in paris and, um, it was terrifying. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts,
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our live coverage of the paris terror attacks continue. joining us now by phone from paris is news week's a oscar lopez. he talked to witnesses outside the restaurant where 14 people were killed and the bataclan concert hall. let's start with you telling me where you were when the attacks began. >> i was not far from the attacks at the restaurant. i had just left a different concert, and i heard, heard the news, i saw it on twitter actually. so i ran over to the neighborhood where it was happening, just about 15 minutes away. >> and what did you encounter when you got there? >> you know, people, people talk about this as a terrorist
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attack, and i think terror is definitely the feeling, you know, this neighborhood where it happened, it's a very vibrant neighborhood, restaurants and caves everywhere. everything is dark. the restaurants were closed down. people were inside the restaurants occurring. no one knew what was happening, it was just total chaos. the police were everywhere. they were very, very aggressive trying to keep people away. it was just incredibly tense. and people that i spoke to were just totally shocked and dumb-founded. many of them, you know, in tears trying to understand what was happening. >> did you get a chance to speak to any people who actually saw the violence itself? >> uh, i spoke to one young boy, he was 15. and coincidentally, he had been not far from the "charlie hebdo" massacre when that happened. and he lived in this neighborhood and he told me
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several bodies on the ground covered with sheets and also paramedics trying to resuscitate at least two, two of the victims. >> what is your sense of the mood right now as folks have sort of processed this? and i imagine its been a sleepless night for a lot of people. i remember in the wake of 9/11 in new york, obviously the scale of that far larger, but there were, there was this agonizing period of people posting pictures of their loved ones and the chaos of trying to establish contact with people that you think may have been victims. and i imagine there's a lot of that happening in paris this morning. >> yeah. i think it's a combination of shock, you know, people trying to just reeling from what's happening. and also, kind of a sense of solidarity. you know, people were sort of forced into these situations, cramped in restaurants for hours waiting to see what would happen. and there's a sense of the city
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kind of joining together in a sense, and i think that's happening on facebook a lot as well. and twitter as well. people are really kind of trying to find some kind of solidarity in the midst of this chaos. >> that was, that was the sort of prodominant emotion projected in the wake of the "charlie hebdo" attacks, of course man fasted in that incredible demonstration and that seems like, it's interesting to hear you already sensing that feeling bubbling up in the city so soon after this horror. >> i think, you know, we all talk about the french as being, as being proud, and i think that comes out in these tragedies. people, people tend to stick together and maintain the pride in their city, you know, paris is a jewel of their country, and i think there's a sense that people, people wanting to protect that. >> all right. oscar lopez from news week in paris this morning, thank you very much. appreciate it.
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joining us now, jim cav in a, former atf special general in charge. i want to zero in on what happened at the bataclan. we saw a really terrifying, but also fascinating series of events in which it first was reported there was a hostage situation. later reports coming on social media from people inside the concert hall, and very quickly thereafter, what appears to be a raid by french forces. how do you make that judgment, if you are law enforcement about whether you're dealing with an active hostage situation, you may be able to negotiate your way out of or a situation in which they are intent on killing everyone they have? >> right. well that's the critical question, chris, i dealt with guys with bombs strapped on them. we've been negotiating with or, you know, trying to commit suicide, and the on-scene commanders job is to read the
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escalate or deescalation of the situation. we don't know how quick the tactical team from the french police got there, but if there's live fire inside the theater, active killing going on, like you talked about in the united states active killing cases or active shooting cases, the on-scene commander is going to make a decision to go in right away. of course the danger in a case like this, and we all know it because we've all in law enforcement studied this stuff from mumbai to the moscow theater. is that they're going to be strapped with suicide vests and may have even booby trapped the doors as you come in. they were able to successfully enter on the one hand, but of course the terrorist detonated their suicide vests and killed themselves and we don't know how many others there. and of course they probably massacred a lot of people before that. we don't know how many people were alive at the time and we don't know how long it took the french tactical team to get there. chris, it's a imperative that
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police in major cities in the world, you know, can get a tactical team and i don't just mean s.w.a.t. light, officers with long guns, i mean a tactical team trained, that can operate with an on-scene commander to make those critical decisions as you described within minutes in the center cities or the major cities, this is the kind of stuff that we studied, and this is the kind of stuff we're facing. >> we have reports that of the four, four assail lanlts that perished inside the concert hall. all four of them were wearing suicide vests, or at least three of them detonated them, one was killed by law enforcement, and it's possible, i believe, i don't know if this is confirmed that he has an unexploded suicide vest. obviously that's going to be key for the investigation, correct? >> well, that's very good evidence because with the intact vest, law enforcement can gain some fingerprints. first knowledge of the make-up of the vest, what type of
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explosives were in there. when you have seven out of eight vests detonated, that's pretty reliable circuit. now a suicide vest is a reliable circuit normally because it's pretty easy to manufacture. you push the button, or you pull the igniter, depending on how you make it. and i investigated bombs my whole career. i can tell you how simple fusing and firing of those things can be reliable. if you have a lot of homemade explosives, sometimes those are not as reliable. >> right. >> but if you have contact in the conflict zone, like the one killer said in the theater, he talked about syria, if they have direct conflict in the conflict zone, they can bring those military explosives and hand grenades back. and that'd be critical. >> that's going to be a line for investigators to pursue. jim can be thank you very much, appreciate it. witnesses at the stade de fran france. believe it.
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at least three people were killed in multiple explosions outside the stad defrance earlier today. i should say yesterday. reports say as many as 50 people are injured after two suicide attacks and a bomb og cured outside the paris stadium. which prompted an immediate evacuation of francios hollande who was there to watch the game. friendly match. he's a soccer fan inside the staid delaware france describing what he heard -- stade de france describing what he heard. >> joining us now by phone, jonathan johnson, reporter who was there during the attack. jonathan, can you describe what it was like inside the stadium when those explosions first went off? >> well, when the explosions first went off, there wasn't
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actually too much reaction inside of the stadium because the, you know, hearing bangs during the game is not completely uncommon when you're watching football in france. especially not in paris if you ever go to the certain areas, these bangs were -- they were much louder than the normal sort of fire cracker explosion that you would hear at one of those games. so, although it didn't cause too much consolation at the beginning, after the second one, because there were three of course, that's when people started to, to started to wonder, you know, started to ask questions as to whether this was happening or something more than that, just a pyrotechnic going off in the stadium. >> when people ask the questions, my understanding is that, you know, capacity is 80,000 and often venues like that, everyone's trying to use the phone. was word rippling through the crowd as this game proceeds? and the finished the whole game. what was going on?
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was there a donning awareness in the stadium of what was happening outside its walls? >> i think that's one of the things that really contributed towards the atmosphere. i think a majority of the crowd didn't know what was going on. you know, i think when you see the, the france score the second goal, the crowd celebrating the goal, and it's almost many of them don't know what's been going on in paris. the game finished, majority of the stadium was allowed to leave as normal, but part of the stadium was told that they couldn't use their exit and they had to stay in the stadium. that's when the fans were in pitch as you see many of the pictures. they were eventually allowed to leave after being, being held for the better part of an hour inside the stadium. but, i think only then when those fans were stuck inside the stadium waiting to get out, you
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know, did it start to don on them there's something serious that happened outside of the stadium and word of mouth started to spread through. but you're right when you said earlier, you know, that it's hard to get cell phone signal in that environment. it's very difficult to get cell phone signal at stade de france, even when something like this hasn't happened. i can imagine that many members of the crowd didn't really discover the full extent of the horror until they exited the stadium. >> all right. jonathan johnson, thank you very much for your time. remarkable scene last night as people were evacuating the stade de france, they started singing the french national anthem. all right, it is just after 7:30 in the morning in france but the entire country's under a state of emergency. now we go to kelly, he's nbc news london correspondent. what is the latest we have from
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paris as people are starting to wake up and face this day? >> well, pretty much is unchanged over the past hour or so, chris. we're still hearing eight attackers dead, seven of them in suicide bombings, one killed by some sort of officer, special forces officer in this raid on the concert hall. the death toll is holding at about 120 people dead. we're hearing varying numbers of dead, both in the concert hall and at separate sites around paris in front of caves, in front of the stadium, of course. and 200 people injured, possibly more than that, at least 80 of them seriously. chris, you can see how the numbers may change as the days wear on. paris is going to be waking up to a very different situation.
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military on the streets, the possibility that some attackers or accomplices may still be at large. that has been raised by the prosecutor's office in paris. although they say that eight attackers have died. they are still looking for any potential accomplices. most of the city will be closed down today, all public offices, public buildings, museums, as far as we understand, the metro is still closed. the people are being asked to stay inside if they can. so a very quiet city and almost a city still seeming, under attack, if you will. no active shootings happening. i want to make that very clear, but there is this sense i think in paris this morning that it's not over yet. >> all right. thank you very much. the american band, eagles of death metal was the band
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performing before the packed house at that concert venue. the bataclan. blake mccoy joins us live from palm desert, california, where the band is from and has the band checked in safe and sound? >> yeah, we can tell you that the band's manager is able to tell us that all of the band members are safe. they were able to escape. this is a pretty well-known band here in palm desert near palm springs, california. now while all of the band members are safe, we are told that not all members of the crew have been accounted for. so that is where the concern lies right now. people half way around the world here in california trying to get more information from paris. on exactly who is still missing and what their condition is. now the lead singer, jesse hughes, his brother spoke with the local paper here in palm desert and said that the band was able to escape through a back door behind the stable. when the gunfire erupted. they were then able to make their way to a paris police station where they waited in safety.
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and also waited for any news of what was going on in the concert hall with all of their fans still inside. as news has spread across palm desert, california, here, people are in shock. a lot of people, no members of the band or no people who know the band desperately trying to contact them right now. we were able to speak with another local band that recently performed with the eagles of death metal. this is what they had to say, take a listen. >> it's very surreal. like we're both walking around kind of with this in a daze, you know. i feel just kind of like shell-shocked. like that could have been us. we were just with them. in fact, my band grand rabbit played last week with them and played with them the night before, they left for europe. >> the thought crossed my mind during one of the shows, you know, just kind of looking over, they draw a lot of people. and we were playing, we were playing medium-sized theaters. so, we're playing for about 1,000, 1,100 people. and thought crossed my mind one
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time, with all the crazy things going on theater shootings. >> and one of the big questions right now here in california is why this band? people who know the band say there's nothing controversial about the band. there's no overt political message. and i know the eagles of death metal, that sounds like an ominous band name, but it's really tongue and cheek. they perform more '70ss blues rock with humor injected into it. the eagles of death metal is not representative of the type of music they're performing, chris. there's question about whether this band was specifically targeted or just happened to be performing where these gunmen decided to burst in. >> nbc's blake mccoy, thanks for that. up next, how will the paris attacks change the fight against terrorism?
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it is sunrise in paris where police are on high alert after the deadly terror attacks that killed at least 120 people. just a couple hours ago. president obama spoke with french president francios hollande by phone to offer the condolences of the american people for the attacks in paris. two leaders pledged to work together and with nations around the world to defeat what they called the skurnl of terrorism. those words were echoed earlier in the day, and president obama spoke about the attacks from the white house briefing room. >> this is an attack not just on paris, it's an attack not just on the people of france, but this is an attack on all of
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humanity and the universal values that we share. we stand prepared and ready to provide whatever assistance that the government and the people of france need to respond. we're going to do whatever it takes to work with the french people and with nations around the world to bring these terrorists to justice, and to go after any terrorist networks that go after our people. >> messages of support and solidarity are pouring in from across the world. monuments lit up in the french colors. from across the global community. prime minister benjamin netanyahu said on the paris attacks, israel stands shoulder to shoulder with francios hollande, i send condolences to the families of those murdered and speedy recovery to the
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wounded. also, country that israel considers a grave threat and enemy, but who also happening to be fighting isis at this moment if in fact they have anything to do with it, iran, the president said in the name of the iranian people who have been victims of terrorism, i strongly condemn these crimes against humanity and offer my condolences to the grieving french people and government. brian jenkins is a terrorism expert and senior advisor, and brian, here's the question i've been thinking about as i've watched this coverage unfold. we have several attacks. the first of those, are those suicide appear to be suicide bombs explosions outside french stadium. those seem to be the ones with the least casualties whereas the later attacks that happened south of there have the most. what, what can we draw conclusions of the purpose of those explosions outside the stade de france where the president was taking in the game? >> i'm not sure yet. it may simply be the technical
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capacity of the bombs or the skills of the bomb makers themselves were not that good. that these were very, very crude devices and didn't have the kind of power we've come to associate with other suicide bombings. they could have had a purely diversion their effect, although it strikes one as odd to use a suicide bomber for a purely diversion their effect. but certainly it's not surprising that most of the carnage is caused by individuals with guns. i mean, this is, this is the scenario that security authorities dread. multiple, simultaneous attacks involving both suicide bombers and heavily armed attackers. it's, you know, it's a mini mumbai attack. >> for folks that are not familiar or have forgotten what happened in mumbai, that seems to be the nearest precedent, that attack, which was -- >> in 2008, on five two-man
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terrorist teams armed with ak-47s, a lot of ammunition, pistols, hand grenades, and small improvised explosive devices, which they left behind in various locations to create more confusion, attacked the central train station, a jewish center, a restaurant popular with tourists, and two hotels where they seized hostages. now the episode paralyzed much of the city for 60 hours before being gunned down themselves, the terrorists killed 162 people. >> and that, of course, was carried out by a jihadi group closely aligned with e pakistani or the movement for pakistani control of cash mere, a lot of people believe they must have received some sort of training through the pakistani intelligence services. i mean, what made that so
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explosive? it was of course the level of sophistication exhibited in the attack immediately led the indian government to point the finger at pakistan in this case is the level of sophistication so much that they're going to be looking for some kind of larger actor behind this. >> no, i don't think so. in this case, it's based upon what we know and of course information is extremely sketchy, but, you know, carrying on attacks like those witnesses in paris, it doesn't require pose a high threshold. weapons are readily available on the black market, especially to those with criminal connections, simultaneous attacks require a leader able to impose discipline. some coordination, sufficient operational security, keep the whole thing a secret, but above all, determination. it is, it doesn't require the high level of skills that we saw in the mumbai attack. >> yeah, as always, and this is something that people who study
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terrorism have told me, the hardest thing is to find people who are both competent and willing to undertake this kind of activity. and that, that's the high escobar. the guns are the easiest part to obtain. >> exactly right. for most of the attack as in paris, the operation will end in their death. and so, determination is the point here. but the, the real issue here is that the distance between the amateurish, would be jihadist we often see and the plots that are uncovered and a deadly attack, like the one we have just seen in paris is not that great. one -- >> that's interesting. >> highly motivated, reasonably competent meter can make the difference. >> great point. it's counter to what people have been saying or speculating about just about how sophisticated or what logistical capacity it would take to pull off something
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like this. and that's going to be key as investigators follow the threads to figure out who was responsible for this, who these people were that could have committed this atrocity, brian jenkins, thank you very much, really appreciate it. >> thank you. tonight the brightest icon in the stiff lights went dark, 3600 miles away here in new york city, the empire state building turned off its lights in solidarity. the sunrise in paris after a night of horror. series of unprecedented series of coordinated terror attacks across paris that have left at least 120 dead, that the hour, in official claim of responsibility. we'll be right back. i absolutely love my new but the rent is outrageous. good thing geico offers
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horrible day in that city's history since the end of world war ii, the world continues to show its solidarity with the city of lights. san francisco city hall, empire state building, wimbley stadium, chrysler in rio, all in the color of the french flag. here is how the terror in paris unfolded as msnbc's breaking news coverage continues. >> state of emergency is for the entire territory of france. >> chaos on the streets of paris tonight, gunfire ringing out, and simultaneous reports of an explosion at a restaurant. >> neighborhood that has people out and about, getting drunk, partying, doing things. and when you see police activity, your first thought is somebody got into a fight, not there was a shooting. >> france and germany were holding a soccer match. an explosion could be heard from inside the stadium. the game over, fans were held on lockdown. the shooting continued across paris. >> it appears that there may
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still be live activity and dangers that are taking place as we speak. >> close all the french borders, we need to make sure that no one can enter france to commit any act whatsoever. >> then an attack on the music venue. >> attackers first sprayed caves outside of the bataclan concert. >> machine gunfire, then went inside the concert hall killing more people and taking hostages. >> it was in the middle of the concert. and the people arrived by the back entrance. and then they began to fire. >> received reports of people sheltering under other people's bodies. gunmens reaching out and shooting at people at random. >> terrorized, and you, you, you think you're going to die. >> the attackers at the bataclan rock venue, they blew themselves up with suicide belts as police closed in. >> you're hitting people when they're at their most vulnerable, when they're trying
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to do the things that people do in daily life. >> at least 100 people were killed in a series of apparently coordinated attacks throughout the city. >> french police are saying they believe all the attackers are dead, the search is now on for accomplices. >> this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values that we share. >> unprecedented attack, not just in europe, not just in france, but in the history of terrorism. >> the bonds of them are not only values that the french people care so deeply about, but they are values that we share. and those values are going to endure far beyond any act of terrorism, or the hateful vision of those who perpetrated the crimes this evening. ♪ [ singing french national anthem ]
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good to be with >> our breaking news coverage of the terror attacks across paris continues. it's 2:00 a.m. on the east coast, 8:00 a.m. in paris. as a new day begins, a state of emergency is still in effect after a tragic night of terror. the details are still developing, but here's what we know so far. french media is reporting six separate highly coordinated attacks took place in and around the city. the first at 9:30 p.m. local time when three bombs went off near the stade de france, a national stadium in the paris suburbs. and it appears at least one, and possibly all three of these explosions, was a suicide bombing. and shortly after that attack began, there wer