. 27 past the hour. joining us on the phone, republican presidential candidate donald trump. if were president right now, what would be the first, second and third thing you would do in the strategy to defeat isis? >> if i were president, we probably wouldn't be in the problems we are right now. we have an attack and then all of a sudden we bomb the sites. we should have bombed the sites a long time ago, training areas largely. why is it that we take them out now after this there's this vicious and violent attack. the other problem, we have a president that doesn't and won't use the term radical islam ek terrorism. hillary clinton didn't want to use the term the other day in the debate, which was a

ridiculous and terrible debate, a joke. all three of them refused to use the term radical islam being terrorism. they just can't say it. >> why is it important, donald? >> because if you condition define the problem, you're never going to solve the problem, joe. they refuse to say what the problem is. you'd almost think they have the terrorists coming out from sweden. the problem is obvious. >> so what do you do as far as troops go? >> here's what i would do. i've been saying this for a long time. i would have -- if you remember when i said attack the oil bus that's their primary source of wealth. people smiled and they laughed and thought it was a joke and they thought it was funny. now as of two days ago, they're attacking the oil. i would absolutely obliterate their source of wealth and i would also attack the banking

system because they're getting tremendous amounts fund through a very complex network of bank willing. >> first of all, on the oil, i agree with you completely. >> and have i been saying that for a long time in. >> i've been saying that for a long time. >> there's one difference. i also said i'd keep the oil. we never keep anything. >> so i want to -- mike barnicle, i'm going to let you follow up. he's starting to talk about what you've been talking about and we've been reading about this week and that some of our close allies in the gulf states have people that have been funneling money to islamic extremists over the past 20 years and they've turned a blind to it and we've turned a blind eye to them. we've talked about going to war militarily and a cyber war but

there's a banking -- >> what would you do in terms of locating, freezing the assets of certainly some individual in the middle east who have a long track record of raising and sending money to terror groups? >> you know the countries and i know the countries, too. the countries are obvious and they're very rich and they're sending money to the terrorists, to isis. tremendous amounts of money. it can be tracked and fairly easily tracked if we have intelligence people leading our country but we don't. some of them claim to be our friend but they're not our friend. they're using us and using everybody else. they're rippings left and right. they're actually more political than anybody else. they're taking care of the

terrorists, they're taking care of the united states who gives them protection. tremendous money is pouring into isis and other terrorist groups through very wealthy countries that we think are our friend and they're not our friend. >> steve schmidt. >> mr. trump, good morning. when we talk about obliterating isis, destroying isis, are you prepared to tell the american people we will deploy large number of regular armty forces back to the middle east to -- >> no, i'm not. of all of the folks that are out there fighting, the kurds are out there fighting. and thank you for saying nice things to me, you were there a long time -- steve was there long before a lot of other people i will tell you.

>> let's get back to -- >> he won't let me give you a compliment, steve. >> let's let the compliment sink in. okay. now let me follow up on the question. >> go ahead. >> so will you at least be willing to seasoned 10,000 u.s. troops over there? >> yes, i would. but i'd iengage other countries. you look at some of those countries who have no skin in the game and those are the ones we're protecting. i would tell them it's time for to you get out and fight and time for you to put up your troops or put your so-called boots on the ground or put your people on the ground because we're not going to continue to do this but in the meantime we can do tremendous damage. as an example, and i said it before, why didn't we hit these sites six months ago and a year ago? we knew they were there. we knew they were training

areas. we have to make a deal with turkey and stop these people from coming in through the turkish border. >> chris jansing has a question. >> we had bill bratton on earlier. we know what you've said about immigration and about sealing the u.s. borders. but beyond that is there something that you would do here in the homeland that you think is not being done now to protect united states citizens? >> well, you're going to have to watch and study the mosques because a lot of talk is going on at the mosques. and from what i heard in the old days meaning a while ago, we had great surveillance going on in and around mosques and new york city and i understand our mayor totally cut that out. he totally cut it out. i don't know if you've brought that up and i'm not sure it a fact but i heard that under the ol' regime, we had tremendous

surveillance going on in and around the mosques of new york city. and that's been totally cut out. >> chris, you did a lot of reporting this weekend. i think i picked up this weekend that the french said they will shut down mosques. >> that have radical leadership. they -- >> they will go in and shut down mosques? >> there's talk about that in many places. >> donald trump, the french are talking about that. is this something you would consider doing as president? >> well, i would hate it do it but it's something that you're going to have to strongly consider because sm of the ideas and some the hatred, the absolute hatred is coming from these areas opini. you know, new york city as an example. we had a group of people from what i understand that really knew what they were doing, that were really studying the situation and they're not doing

that anymore under the new mayor. and i think that's a mistake. it's something that many people are considering and many people are going to do. >> but are you concerned at all about the backlash that can create? and the hatred that can breed? >> there as already hatred. it's embedded. it is beyond belief. the hatred greater than anybody understand. and it already there. it not like, what, do you think they think we're great people? it's already there. it's a very, very sad situation. and i know sem people, will they're being so badly -- >> would agree, donald, that this is just a small percentage

of these radical muslims are a small percentage of the entire muslim population. >> yes, but it's a tremendous amount of horror and damage and vitriol. you look at what's happening. this is something that has to be stopped and we have to be very strong, we have to be vej laigi and we have to be intelligence. they're using the internet, joe, better than we are. >> and that was the belgian prime minister that was talking about shutting down specific mosques. obviously we have the first amendment in the united states of america, that ain't going to happen here. that said, though, we were post 9/11 far more aggressive in trying to seek out the radical clerics to radicalize certain members of mosques in the united

states. >> i think part of the problem and we look at the democratic debate and the failure of some of these candidates in the