tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC November 21, 2015 9:00am-11:01am PST
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hello, everyone. we are a approaching high noon here in the east, and 9:00 a.m. out west. we begin with the capital of brussels under the nation's highest terror alert. and is service halted on the subway system as heavily a armed police and military deploy across the city in search of the suspect of last week's at a tacks in paris. and the citizens are urged to stay in place, and if they must go out, go out in crowds. and today, there was a belgian national who was in morocco and he has been arrested. he is believe ared to have been in contact with the attackers and scouted places for isis. the parisians are out on the
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streets trying to show the french spirit one week after the attack. friday, the state the of emergency was extended in france for three months. we go the brussels where claudio lavanga is tracking the latest. good evening, claudio, and what is the latest? >> well, alex, life continues almost as normal here in brussels. behind me is one of the busiest shopping centers in the city. and there are locals, and i asked how does this compare from this time of the year to last year, and they say it is very, very calm. some of the restaurants have remained open, although many of the shops have closed because of the terror alert. let me remind you ta many of to shopping center, and libraries and swimming pools have been shutdown and even the cemeteries, but some of the restaurants are remaining open, and they say they are to do so even though there are not that
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many people around. we were down in the street, and we tried to gauge the feel in the streets, and this is what they had to tell us. >> i don't feel frightened or threatened, but it is something that i have never seen before and think it is stupid. i mean, it is -- i think that they are letting the terrorists win, because now we can't do anything, and we are paralyzed by fear now, and stupid. it is not necessary, and just letting fear rule. stupid. >> well, the question now, a alex, how long will this heightened state the of alert remain in place? the interior minister in belgium said that at least until monday, and maybe and perhaps longer than that. and of course, this is going to affect the everyday life of people living here in brussels, especially because monday,
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people have the go the work, and the subways will maybe are remain closed. back to you, alex. >> well, claudio, we need to make a point that we said it at the top of the hour, but the nationwide state of emergency in paris has been extended for three months by the state assembly there, and the state s assembly there in france, and so they will be in an heightened alert. i understand from the gentleman there that he thought that giving into the terrorists because of the movements and the like, but do the people understand they are trying to find the sweet spot of keeping people safe and still allowing them to go about their daily business? >> well, i think that it is a difficult balance there, alex. this is also a place, brussels that is not used to terror threats at a all. this is only the third time in the history of the country that the terror alert for the threat alert has been raised to number
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4 which is the highest. and there seems to be a little bit of confusion of what people shall do and shouldn't. for instance the u.s. embassy seems to be quite concerned about this to the point that the at the beginning, they are warning or advising rather u.s. citizens leave are org staying in brussels not to get out at all, and if they do go out, and if they have to get out, then they should avoid crowded places. so the people that we spoke to here, especially the residents, they said they are so confused about all of this. they don't know whether it is a real threat and stay in or get out and why are the restaurants open if the threat is so serious. >> confusing in challenging times in brussels and elsewhere. thank you, claudio lavanga, and we will check in with you again. and now, over to turkey where correspondent bill neely is there about the latest there. what happened? >> yes, good afternoon, alex. it was three people who were detained some time the ago who
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have now been formally arrested. one man in particular is thought to be directly linked to the attacks here in paris. authorities suspect that he may have scouted out some of the location locations for the gang that massacred 130 people here. the other two men are thought to have helped him. the one key figure is a belgian. he was arrested along with the others in the turkish resort of antalya. and just to go back to something that claudio was saying, and i'm here in paris now, and i have come from the eiffel tower area, which is being patrolled by the troops, and heavily armed police. there is one thing that links paris and brussels, and two cities and two countries which have contributed a lot of fighters to the isis cause in iraq and syria. remember no country has contributed more isis fighters
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than belgian per head of population, a nd on the pure numbers, it is france. these are two countries who have a problem, if you like with the jihadi jihadis and the isis supporters in their own ranges. so far in the last five days france has carried out more than 800 raids on isis supporters in france. and nearly 200 guns seized and nearly 100 people have been ar r arrest ed. these are the countries that are really cracking down hard on the isis supporters inside of their borders. alex. >> okay. bi bill, i want to get deeper into what you said. you mentioned the turkish town of antalya where that arrest happened and it brought to the mind that the president was there with the other leaders of the g-20 summit. was that something looked at by the terrorists the fact that the global leaders were there in
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antalya? >> well, it is always a possibility. if you look at turkey, there are only a few cities that they would strike with any meaning. don't forget that like al qaeda, e isis wants the high profile targets ark sond a few weeks ago they struck turkey's capital anch anchorah killing 120 people. and it is a place where the international leaders gathered. one other interesting is development over night when we are talking about the global picture is that for the first time in new york, the united nations security council passed a resolution directly against isis. it said that countries should use all necessary means to combat isis. don't forget that at the security council all five permanent members, including the
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united states have had citizens killed by isis. china just this week, and russia in the last few weeks with the suspected bombing of that plane over egypt, and of course here in paris, france, directly targeted. so, you know, isis being seen increasingikrees creasingly as and deserves a global response. and in syria, at least 60 aircraft were in the air yesterday conducting dozens of strikes on isis positions in ra raqqah and elsewhere. the world is ratcheting up the response even as the european cities like paris and brussels, you know, react against the isis threat. >> a glow pal assault to be sure. thank you, bill neely for that comprehensive report. and fou fosh, for the deadly at
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in that hotel in mali. the police are looking for three suspects which killed at least 20 people yesterday. keir simmons is there for more. what are you hearing about the manhunt, keir? >> well, alex, we have been watching one after another french detectives going into the hotel behind me. and anyone from around the world would recognize it, and recognize the radisson signature, but they would not recognize what happened yesterday when gunmen burst in and opened fire hitting anyone who moved it is said by witnesses. we have been talking to one man a man from the indian delegation staying here, and he is says that 19 of them were trapped in a large hotel apartment. he describes how the gun fire happened in the early morning hours, and kept getting closer and closer and closer. he said that the gunman was so close they were outside of the door knocking on the door, and
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firing at the door. he says they put things, and anything they could find that was heavy enough up against the door to prevent the shooters from getting in, but he says it was absolutely terrifying. he describes himself as the team leader of the group, and he says it is his job to try to calm everybody else. how you do that, alex, in those circumstances, i guess you have to find some strength from somewhere. meanwhile, the american ambassador here has released a statement to nbc news about the american who was killed, anita da tar, and he describes her as helping everybody in her life, p public servant, and mother, and daughter and sister and friend. and she was a two-year peace corps volunteer in senegal and her work to advance global health and international developme development. she will be deeply missed here and at home, alex. >> and yes, people are mourning
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her. and quickly, the 19 that you talked about huddling together, and did they all get out of the hotel unscathed? >> all of them. th thankfully, all of them managed to escape. they say that it was an hour and a half where they were trapped while these gunmen were roaming the corridors of the hotel behind me, but in the end, the malian forces got in and killed two of them, and reports that three of them are still looked for. so perhaps five people involved in this terror cell. alex. >> okay. keir simmons in mali there for us with the latest from bamako. isis propaganda videos have been singling out new york and washington as possible targets. whits house officials have been discounting the video claims. >> we have got no credible
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threat reporting against washington, d.c washington, d.c. there have been reports of, that and we have no credible threat reporting with regard to the specific or the credible threat to washington, d.c., or the homeland. nevertheless, we are going to continue to be vigilant, and we can't be come play ce-- compla t complacent. >> and let's bring in our travel expert, and so, shawn, this is the biggest travel plans of the year, and how do you approach t it? >> well, it is a big holiday week of travel, and it is no cred it concern, and i can the tell you that the fbi, and the intelligence task forces here in the u.s. and abroad are aware that this is something that could happen. there are many people who are under surveillance, an under investigation in the u.s. tied to isis or those subscribing to
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the jihadi rhetoric, and perhaps copycats what they are seeing going on in belgian and elsewhere in the world. does it help to motivate them where they are aspirational, and is that the switch that makes them operational. >> and in terms of here in the united states, as the new america foundation report ta came out that suggests that unlike the situation in paris that which we face here in the united states are more concerned of the isis-inspired jihadists who are trained on the battlefield. >> yes, you do want to discount the people who have traveled abroad and gone to europe, and come in affected by isis. the homegrown americans or those who have resettled here, and who are inspired on line via social media or reaching out to have communications through the internet or even through the
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telephone with those who are fighting abroad. they are listening to this. it is detach prd the american society, and they don't feel like they are fitting in and they are dissettled and disgruntled, and they are rising up, because they don't like what they are seeing gaiagainst the muslim world. >> we have isis claiming responsibility for paris, and al qaeda group taking responsibility in mali, and so what about this one upsmanship that everybody has to be concerned about? >> we saw a.q. since the mid-'90s being the focus of the world trade center, and the african embassy bombings, and of course, 9/11, and since that time. but we have heard about isis, and the war in syria, and those coming out of iraq to form the caliphate there. when a.q. people there are competing for the resources, the funding, and certainly, a concern when they see isis getting this attention, perhaps something they can do ra rather
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than waiting for one of the master attacks. >> you mean change the tactics? >> yes. >> and go are from the airplanes and the airliners and buildings to something more. >> yes, how do they get into the media and the front page by getting people's attention. and by doing that, are they gaining the ability to recruit people, and recruit and gain better funding and those sorts of things. >> all right. shawn henry, sobering to say the least. thank you. following news out of belgian, the city stcities in b are to be on high alert. the subways are closed until at least tomorrow afternoon. coming up, new information about the terrorist attacks in paris including one that might not have gone as planned. i think my boys have a shot this year. yeah, especially with this new offense we're running... i mean, our running back is a beast. once he hits the hole and breaks through the secondary, oh he's gone. and our linebackers and dbs dish out punishment,
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18 past the hour with new information in the paris terrorist attacks and authorities have rereleased seven people detained in a dead ly attack. and now there is a suspect that is still in custody, and he said in televised remarks in the raid that he let people stay in the apartment as a favor, and end quote, he did not know they were t terrorists. we will bring in the white house correspondent who is with new information on the night of the paris attacks. and to you, laura, what have you found out? >> we found out some interesting things that the investigators are telling us. maybe there was a fourth attack against paris that same night which did not work. the investigators from between last friday night and sunday in
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the morning hours of paris they were looking at the car, and they found a lot of things apparently inside of the car that prompted them to believe there were people who were going to commit another attack. and according to people who were speaking to the us, they were convinced that this car was used by some people again to commit an attack in paris, but it did not work. they don't know what was the target. they don't know what or why it didn't work, but what is interesting is that they are completely convinced that abaaoud was maybe part of the fourth failed attack in paris, and the investigators know now, an confirming as of that, the woman hasna didn't have anything to do with the attacks in paris. according to the recordings of the phones they found out that she was called by abaaoud who was in complete distress and he
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said to her, i don't know where to sleep, and please help me, and please help me, and she is in a full panic mode went to pick him up and according to the investigators again who are listening to the phone calls, okay, okay, i am helping you, but what did you do? what did you do? is and she was in full panic force to take abaaoud to the location, and she didn't have anything to do with the terrorist attacks in paris. it is important, because until 48 hours ago, we thought that she was a suicide bomber, and it appears that she was not at all a suicide bomber, and you know, she was forced by abaaoud to take care of him. >> and in is extraordinary information that you are giving us. this is is the same woman that when the police in the raid were heard crying out "i'm afraid, i'm afraid", and they were thinking that was to the pull
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them closer to pull the suicide vest, and she was not the suicide bomber? >> that is right. she was not the suicide bomber. the suicide bomber was a man close to her, and we don't know at this moment who was this man. you have to remember that something that found three bodies inside of the apartment. one of the body was this woman hasna and the investigators thought she detonated herself, but it is not the case. she was close to someone who detonated himself, and they don't know at this moment who was this person, if it was abaaoud or another terrorist, because again, they found another body insooide of the rubbles, and the other body is not identified at the moment. they don't know who is this person, and that is a key element in the investigation. they are absolutely convinced that the guy who committed to a
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attacks against the restaurant is still at large, because some investiga investigators told us maybe inside of the apartment in saint denis, you would have the guy who committed the attack inside of the restaurant, and maybe he blew himself up. according to the investigators, salah abdeslam committed the attack against the restaurant was seen cruising the bar on saturday, and that is why belgian is under such security. and so, they are looking at the third terrorist there that is very important information for them, and they were trying to identify the terrorist wo was inside of the apartment with the woman and abaaoud in saint denis. >> i just want to clear up that
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the woman in the apartment in saint denis. there is report that he was seen coming out of the metro in saint denis or was it elsewhere, because if he was an attacker with a fourth cell who didn't get off whatever they had planned, where was that? >> it was not in saint denis, but it was a metro station o outside of paris and i don't remember where it happened, but what i can tell you is that according to investigators they don't know if he wanted to do to a fourth attack in paris and it didn't work, and then panicked and called this woman or if abaaoud was the architect of all of the attacks in paris and the fourth didn't work and he also pan panicked and called the woman. >> all right. laura haim, and as always, troord their reporting -- as
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at 31 past the hour, welcome back the "weekends with alex witt." new information to share with you following the attacks in paris. the pentagon is pressing the european allies to support more troops in the attacks gaiagains isis. they fear more coming in other nations will encourage them to get involved. and now, joining us is colonel jack jacob, and what is the likelihood? >> well, the europeans, yes, and the french are involved, but we are talking seriously with our other european allies. it is something that we have talked the about before and since this whole thing e began, we don't see much of the people in the region who actually have some skin in the game. who actually have an interest in what is going to be taking place in the region. we are talking about saudi
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arabia for example, egypt, and we are not hearing much from them, and they are the people who have very good air forces. the air strikes are being conducted by the united states and france and a few others, and we are flying out of ancerlic air base, but we are not seeing the enthusiasm from those in the region who need the stability to change the instability in the region by providing troops or assistance, and we don't hear anything are from them. >> anything from that because it is difficult to know how to attack these two disparate groups. we have france, and isis respon responsible for the attacks in paris and then mali's attack e yesterday, an al qaeda, off shoot of that branch is claim ing are responsibility, and yet they go about things very differently. >> and they do, and you are quite right that al qaeda in one hand and isis on the other, the latter is desperately interested
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in controlling terrain. so in many respect, it is easier to knock them off, because all you have to do is to control their ter rain,rain, and then s there long enough so that the locals can defend themselves, and son o but you can't do that unless you get the troops there combatting isis or al qaeda, and nobody is demonstrating any reto do exactly that. that is what is it going to be taking. in syria alone 100,000 troops and a lot of time, a de-cade or more. >> i want to quote former cia director leon panetta says that the getting involved in a war against isis is a 30-year war, and why? >> because you have to change the economic, and the sociological and political picture of that region wherever you are going, and you have to take over large swathes of countries that are fake countries and different ethnic groups that are opposed to one
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update from brussels, as the city is on the highest alert, and subways are closed and patrols on the streets. >> and today, president obama is vowing to keep the country open for refugees, even though a request to bar refugees are from entering the country. about 4,000 are landing everyday in greece as they make their way west for a safer life. and joining us is sophia jones right now, and sophia with the
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welcome, i know that you are talking to the refugees through turkey, and are they concerned about how they are be perceived in turkey after the attacks in paris? >> yes, they are concerned, but it is not going to deter them in anyway, because i have been speaking to syrians inside of the middle east, and they say, we have nothing left, and we have to leave. many of the people are wanted by not only the assad regime and isis and so staying and returning could mean death or jail time. >> and sophia, it is literally because these people have nowhere else to go, right? taking the risk to the move on the europe, and it is in many ways safer than staying put in syria. >> definitely. i spoke with some iraqi yazidis in northern iraq whose homes have been entirely destroyed by isis in sinjar, and one man said, we have nothing left to lose. we are going to leave, because we have nothing left here. they can't rebuild the houses, and they are terrified that isis will return and commit another
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massacre. >> and the fact that the kurds retook sinjar, does it change anyone's plans by the reporting you are seeing? it is a big deal that isis is pushed out of sinjar, and the u.s. a air strikes helped, and it is a big win for the kurds, but the you speak to the yazidis they will say it is not free, because nothing is left there, and they need aid and counsel ing to rebuild the city. >> thank you for the perspective there on the ground sophia jones. >> thank you for having me. and the changes at the borders could have a big impact, and that story is coming up n t next. diabetes, steady is exciting.
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in contact with the paris attackers and may have scouted possible terror locations for isis. parisians are back out on to street to show the french spirit one week after the attack. and france's national assembly exte extended the state of emergency for a full three months. there is a new video from isis which has surfaced in which it claims that the group has additional terror attacks planned for europe and the people are in place to carry it out. nbc news has decided not to show that video at this time. as we have said, the belgian capital is on lockdown today, after intelligence pointed to the possibility of a serious terrorist attack there, and brussels on the highest state of alerts, and with new troops on the street, the u.s. embassy is telling the americans to stay home. >> it is aer sooous and ill nent threat otherwise the -- it is a serious and imminent threat or o
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otherwise we would not have qualified this as a threat of 4 on a scale of 4. >> so claudio lavanga joining us from brussels. what is it is like there as night falls, claudio? >> well, we were advised from the u.s. embassy to stay indoors and if you have to go outdoors, don't go in large crowds. i just met two american girls here on holiday from florida and i said, are you afraid? is are you going out? they said, yes, we are not afraid, because we see a lot of soldiers in the street, and we take it lightly to go as planned to a bar and restaurant. well, the belgians live here did not take that threat so lightly as this american girls, and we spoke to them this morning in the street, and this is how they are reacting to it. >> i have definitely do not like it. it does not feel comfortable when you are facing a military
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in your neighborhood like it is for the time being. and it is very seriously for sure. >> do you feel threatened? >> no, i don't, but i will give it considerations for instance i should have used the metro, but it is not possible, so it does influence my life. >> and alex, now the question in everybody's mind here is how long will this last, as this belgian who you just heard from said that he could not take the metro, and the subway system is in lockdown throughout the weekend and for monday, the people will have to go to work, and this is a city with already a big traffic problem. so how long will it last? well, the interior minister saidt at least until monday, and what we have heard from paris, it will last weeks if not months. >> and the two miami girls are traveling throughout foot throughoutbrusles the today. and now, we thank you, claudio
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lavanga. and now we go to the latest on turk turkey, and kelly koeb yay is joining us for that. what do we know? >> well, alex, three men arrested and one is a belgian national and 26-year-old ahmet dahmani. counter terrorism officials were following them, and they were staying in a luxury hotel in a coastal city in turkey, and he was picked up with these two other men, and they have been picked up and for mali arrested. this is the individuvideo of th taken, escorted into the police custody. various reports talk about when this belgian arrived in turkey, and what we do know is that at least investigators are saying that he had contact with the paris attackers and that he may have been some sort of scout for the paris attacks, and scouting out locations for the paris
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attacks, and some reports putting him from europe to amsterdam specifically into turkey on november 14th the day after the attack, and we don't have confirmation on that as of yet, a allex. as for the two syrians brought into custody, they were brought in by isis to escort this man. alex? >> kelly a week and a day since the attacks, and you are at the plaza dela publique. and what are you sensing? are people wanting to get on with their lives or a little bit of both? >> yes, and despite the horrible weather today, wet, windy, rainy and cold, and lot of people were out and about, and in cafes and
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in stores doing their shopping and walking in the streets, and coming to the memorial sites and paying their respects. you can hear the sirens behind me is a typical sound here in paris and it is not related to the security situation here. but you will see more bag checks at the stores, and more security at the hotels and cafes, and here on the corner of the plaza de la publique, you saw the military officials with weapons. and so you are seeing the parisians moving on and trying to the act like a normal saturday, but it is a constant reminder that it is a different world than say two weeks ago. >> and despite the sound of the sirens i like the fact that the people gathered out sooside of bataclan theater to express joy in music. so parisians are a hearty bunch. thank you, kelly cobiello. >> the associated press are
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report ing th reporting that the police are searching for three suspects linked to the attack in mali. we have chapman bell there with the latest. and with a welcome the you, chapman, what do we know about the suspects? >> well sh, alex, what we do kn is that there are two gunmen who did die in the attack yesterday, and reports as you said that there are three other suspects out on the loose. however, we have not heard much or any official confirmation about the suspects, but what i can tell you is that there has been a group al mour bitoun, it
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appeared that there was a this group claiming responsibility and the al qaeda groups competing for terror events. it seemed that there was investigators in there trying to piece together what happened in there and if they can find anything tole help push it along, the u.s. embassy has advised the americans to keep a low profile and not the congregate in areas if they don't need to, and this is to say they are not sure yet if everybody who was involved in the hotel attack behind me has been killed in this attack. alex. >> okay. so that is the is the u.s. government suggesting that you stay put, and unlike in brussels where you have the highest security level right now in existence, and the third time in belgian history it is that high, because there is a suspect at large still they believe. if these three suspects are still at large there in the capital of pamco or elsewhere in
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mali, has the government suggested anything for their residents? are there security protocol procedures in place for them and recommendations? >> i have yet to get any official statement for this, and like i said, the streets are having plenty of armed military presence as well as police presence, so it would indicate that they are not taking any chances a this attack. >> okay. chapman bell, thank you very much from bamako in mali. and now, welcome in, we appreciate you coming to answer some questions on terrorism. do you take these threats seriously or would they just raise a red flag and say, hey, we are waiting to strike. >> it is important to know that the video is a series of videos and a rung series that started
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to be released back in january. so the fac that it talks about france and the fact of talking about paris or issues such a threat to them, this is not something new. it is the third part of the same series. obviously -- >> it is predated you think? >> well, look, we don't know when it is recorded, but obviously before the paris attacks, because two parts in the video that were directed to france that happened long before this happened. some of the video was are recycled. it is important to emphasize that quite a bit of the video content was recycled and not new. there were some small new pieces, but again, it looked like another slap dash job by isis media trying to squeeze as much value out of the paris attacks, and whether or not there are any cells left for taking action. >> what do we know about brussels, and the fact that the country has raised it to the highest for the third time in history, and what does that mean? what is the likelihood or the type of concerns that they have?
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>> well, the only link directly link that we know of to paris that is public is the idea that the suspect that is still on the loose is probably right now hiding in brussels, and reportedly told the friends trying to find their way back to syria. and if you look at the matchup to belgium, it is one guy trying to escape, and they are talking about multiple simultaneous coordinated attacks, and that is not one person, because network. obviously, there are other individual individuals that they believe are similar wave of attacks possible. if you look at all of the plots unraveling, almost all of them are coming back to belgian, and last january, quite an extreme shootout in a location where individuals were linked to this. it is very likely that there are individuals left in belgian who are isis supporters, and apparently the fugitive from justice abdel abdeslam does,
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too, because he did not detonate the vest properly. >> and what about the group claiming responsibility from mali. what are the investigators doing to the track them down? >> well, look, it is possible that al mourbitoun did it, but it is nothing to the authenticate it. it was distributed to al jazeera and a couple of a arabic sites, but it was not on a terrorist forum or authenticated by a courier, and no other way to know it is legitimate other than there has not been any other claim from any other groups so far. we want to know who they are and who did it and where they come are from and that is going to tell us a lot more about who is responsible, and who coordinated it. it is important to emphasize that maybe it is not as sophisticated as what took place in paris, but it is not meaning that it was planned in the last week. it is possible that it was
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planned months ago, and long before paris even happened. and so even if it turns out it is not al qaeda or some isis branch behind it, unlikely, but if it does, it does not mean that it is directly linked to what happened in paris, and more than likely give n the timing, t wasn't. >> thank you, so much, evan coleman for your insights. and now, the government in brusse belgium have raised their terror alert level to the highest possible. >> and now, what if the borders are more open, what does that mean for security and travel? that is next.
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de l.a. publique. member s s of the u.n. are going a ahead with plans to freeze the passport-free zone, consisting of 23 countries. and joining me is my colleague olivia stern, and what can you tell us about the development, and what this means against terrorism? >> well, we know that several of the terrorists were traveling on eu passports freely between syria and europe and iraq, and they were known to the authorities and on the watch
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lists. until now, relatively lax security on the external borders for european citizens returning home. i have a french passport and most of the time, it is a visual check of the passport and wave you through. and now sh, they will be verify all of the passports against the interpol database to see if the passport has been fodged or stolen and whether or not if in fact you are on a watch list. it is going to be looking like what it is when americans return home, and a couple of questions about are where they have been and what they are doing, and they get the crucially passports checked. it is a crucial step and just one thing that france is calling for. >> and the internal controls, olivia, and inside of germany and europe and those countries? >> well, many kcountries, germany, france, and sweden have reintroduced internal controls, and that is controls on their own national borders so people krooifing from say belgium here into france as the terrorists
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did, they will now have to go through a check point. the other thing that they agreed to the at the emergency meeting yesterday was to keep a passenger name database to keep the database of the people traveling. that had been controversial, and france had been pushing for it since the charlie hebdo attacks, and it was held up, but yesterday, finally it was agreed to europe-wide. >> and one more question despite the wind, what is the impact of the security measures on the economy? >> it is windy, but at least it is not raining. the impact on the controls are that they are not permanent. there are some who rul kaing for it to be permanent, but it is against the whole ideal of european integration. people here see the process of the movement and the capital and the goods and the services all of the way from essentially r h russia to the atlantic, as a cornerstone of what europe
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stands for. they see it as a driver of growth for an economy or for a continent whose economy is weak at the moment. at the national borders, it is unlikely they will stay up for the long time, and people are calling for the bigger thing to think about now is in the wake of the char charley heb e doe, and the terrible refugee crisis and literally millions of people on the edge of europe trying to get into the eu, and now the attack, and the whole idea of freedom of movement within europe is in question. >> and on the heels of the agreement two decades ago, people are used to the lifestyle in europe, and we will see if there are big changes. thank you, olivia stearns. let's bring in julie smith who is a adviser to joibd and also a senior at the european center. and so tell us how plausible is an isis strike here?
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>> well, no one can say with any certainty that something on the order of what we witnessed in paris would absolutely not happen in the united states. that is always a possibility. we have to understand that the united states is very different from the situation in france. obviously, europe is in closer proximity to the middle east. it is much easier for people to flow in and out of of the region from syria into europe. it is a complete ri different situation here. obviously, surrounded by two oceans. and since 9/11 we have invested billions and hundreds of billions of dollars in our own security, strengthening intelligence, and border security and law enforcement. we have learned a number of lessons from 9... -- from 9/. >> leslie: and we are stronger for it. >> how has the role of the united states against isis since
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what happened in paris? >> the u.s. is doubling down on the fronts, and obviously carrying owithin the strikes inside of syria and iraq. and we have special forces on the ground, and we have enhanced the intelligence cooperation with the european allies. we are also looking closely at how isis gets its financial support. you saw the bombings most recently of the oil convoys carrying energy across syria, and that is a core way that the islamic state gets its resources. here at home, we are remaining vigilant and obviously, looking at the the tools here at home to keep america safe. i do think that though this debate over to the refugees is getting a little bit over to the top, and creating unnecessary fear here in the united states. j and we have heard, julie, the reports of russia flying the sor disand the launch of attacks there against isis and what is
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the likelihood of a alliance of russia and the united states against isis? >> well, russia said they are there to fight isis and now we have seen with plenty of concrete cases that they are not. they have done a after the rebels that we are supporting. since the airliner was taken down and the paris attacks, they are claiming they will do more to go after the islamic state. many here in washington and across the administration, and even in europe that is skeptical that it is going to be turning out to be true, but we have to see in weeks ahead whether or not russia is serious about going after the islamic state. >> julianne smith, thank you. >> thanks. and today, donald trump is delivering remarks at a campaign stop, but is he backing away from a statement about muslims?
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there is a series of new development s developments in the attacks in paris including the arrests of three suspected islamic militants in turkey. one of them is a belgian national from morocco who investigators believe had contact with the paris attackers and scouted locations. we have a team of reporters and producers working to get more information about those arrests. >> meantime, president obama vowed at the asian summit to eliminate the safe havens of terrorists, but how does he make that happen? that is next. i think my boys have a shot this year. yeah, especially with this new offense we're running... i mean, our running back is a beast. once he hits the hole and breaks through the secondary, oh he's gone. and our linebackers and dbs dish out punishment, and never quit. ♪ you didn't expect this did you? no i didn't. the nissan altima. there's a fun side to every drive. nissan. innovation that excites.
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♪ it's the final countdown! ♪ ♪ the final countdown! if you're the band europe, you love a final countdown. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." we are back to the up to the minute coverage of the attacks in paris. the capital of belgium, brussels, is under the highest
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security alert today. and subways are shutdown. and the u.s. embassy is urging americans if they have to go out not to go out in large crowds. and turkey authorities have arrested three people who had relation with the paris attacks. they believe one of the people arrested scouted sites for the attackers. we go to my colleague thomas, and what are you hearing from the people who survived the attacks, and how are they processing this a week lateer? >> well, alex, it is a work many progress for so many people, and talking about one person that i met, a parisian woman who survived the attack at the bataclan, but i want to give the viewers a kw quick update on where the investigation stands so far for the suspected eighth attacker abdeslam, and he is remaining at large. most likely the most wanted man
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in the world last seen heading to belgium in a car. today, alex s is the first day of the security reinforcement state of emergency here in france after the french parliament voted unanimously behind president oland's request to have the state of emergency for the next three months. i want everybody to know what that means as france is living in the new normal state. the sweeping powers are given to the police, and the broadest house arrest measure, and the administrative police can do so without judicial authorization, and facilitate the closures of any radical mosques or what they consider to be radicalized, and the police arm powered to carry them out since november 15th, and so now they have official governmental approval the go ahead with this over the next three months n. terms of people, and manpower and women who are working with the police behind it, 10,000 police personnel deployed across the country, and
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100,000 police, and alex, 5500 custom agents are working on what is considered to be the issue of enforcing the porous borders here. it is all part of the economy here to make sure that people can travel with fluidity, but 5500 customs officials are cracking down on the flow of people right now, but as many people as i have spoken to the about this, alex, they consider this in paris not just an attack on the french people, but an attack on the way of life for so many people within the western world. i had the opportunity to sit down today with a 28-year-old parisian woman who was at the the bataclan last friday night with several of her friends. she was in what she called the pit which is in the middle of the dance floor for the eagles of death metal concert. she was enjoying herself and having a great time on friday night. and for her talking about it, it is emotional and she is easily startled by loud noises, and she
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did not want to have the interview at her apartmentful we met at a cafe, but she was resilient in the attitude that she is not a victim, but a survivor. >> i feel stronger, and we had the chance to get out alive, it's amazing. we are not going to let them ruin our lives. we are out. we are alive. they are not going to get anything from us. i don't feel anger or hatred towards them, because they are nothing. when i say that nothing, i mean, it is just that they are not human anymore at that point. >> she is an amazing resolve. she was a able to survive the attack on the bataclan and all of her friends also survived the attack there. and alex, i want to remind you of the repercussions felt inside of the country right now as it is living under the new normal.
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all of the public demonstrations have been banned up till further notice which goes through tomorrow, and that means that there can't be any large public gatherings. we have seen the people continuing to come out here to the shrines and the memorials at this area here on the plaza that have popped up all over the city, but the police and the security forces are fearful of any large gatherings of people that could make them any type of target. but as we have learned from al are ix -- learned from alix and her friends, they are extremely grateful to have survived and they heart goes out to the 130 people who were killed, m massacred here on a friday night in paris. the investigation continues, and as you could hear from her, she does not have hatred for these attackers, but she is certainly not going to the let them win by taking away the way she lives
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her life, and the way she going to be continuing with her future. she had a strong resolve and amaze young woman. >> yes, thomas. i was thinking about the extension of the emergency status there for another three months, and i immediately thought a somber tone to the holidays, but the reality listening to e her, and the interview and the people and their indomitable spirit, nah, they will come right back and show they can enjoy themselves, and that is what they are going to do. >> and we have seen it on the streets as they are slowly coming back the life. last night markinging the the one-week anniversary of to a attacks that happened, and even though the terrorists were not as -- even though the streets are not as full as they would have been in previous weeks, it is a chilly night here in paris, but people are going about the business and trying to get back to the life in a respectful way. they don't the certain ly take for granted what happened here. most people who i speak to and
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continue the speak to, the parisians and the phren arech, they have an attitude of willing to do whatever it takes. they support what president holla hollande is doing. some feel it is too much too late and it is rooted within the communities there around the country. but again over the next three months we will see how it goes as the raids and the issues of the people being detained or put under house arrest continues for any suspicious activity. alex, back the to you. >> thank you, thomas roberts. and the attacks in paris have added new international dimension to the group of isis and a group linked to al qaeda is taking are responsibility on the attack in mali in which at least 20 people died. we bring in retired four-star general barry mccaffery, and i want to ask you what it means to you by these two attacks, and is there a connection?
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>> yes, no question that there is a connection, and communication back and forth and the weapons of the explosive vests and hand grenades don't appear in paris or mali without some distribution system. a lot of it is isis-related. mali, they are claiming it was an al qaeda attack, but it is sort of hard to sort them out with 75,000 jihadists out there, and it is not a top-drown hierarchy. and it is a diffuse group, and it is hard for anybody to grapple with it. in libya, you have a cascading effect of weapons, and money, and criminal activity and smuggling human migrants through libya, and it has been a disaster. >> and general by the description 75,000 jihadist-types out there, do any of the groups present a clear and present danger to the u.s. at this time?
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>> oh, no question. we have to expect and our authorities and thank god for the customs and the border protection of the united states department of homeland security and the fbi and other intelligence services, and the d.i.a. and the nsa and the central intelligence agency obviously, and we are immensely safer than europe. no question. the biggest safety we have got is that we don't have as france has possibly 10% of the popular are alienated, unas sem lasimil arab french-speaking people. most of the muslims here in the country feel they got a fair shake, and so we are safer, but thet attacks are probable in the coming year. >> and general, the new york times today reporting that the two attacks mali and paris expose a al qaeda and isis rivalry and is thering? there that the u.s. can use to their advantage? >> well, alex, particularly for
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the united states, we have all of the advantages. the problem is that if you live in the middle east and you are a sunni muslim, you are horrified that isis will cut off your head if you are not a part of the caliphate. and the shias and the other christians, and et cetera, and the u.s. is trying to influence something that is fundamental in the region a struggle between shia and sunni muslim and going on for hundreds of years. it is going to continue. so, focus on our own problems, and that is particularly in europe is significant. one of the earlier guests taledd about reinstituting border control. it can't be done in short period of time. you need an infrastructure and so the eu took the apart the internal controls and didn't establish an external eu control, and we didn't do it
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very well either. you can't stop traffic going 70 miles per hour between germany and france unless you have a way to check them, and planes and train, and europe has a real challenge come up, and that i have to think through it. >> and thank you, general barry mccaffery, and you have is won three purple hearts, and the distinguished medal of honor and distinguished cross. that is what must be mentioned.
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can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? among the top headline tas we are closely following a ten-day state of emergency is under way in west african country of mali. this is following a seven-hour siege in bamako by the islamic extremists there. the two heavily armed gunmen were killed and as were 20 people inside of the hotel. sfwroo one-week plus main the cy
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of paris, the city of lights, the streets are still reeling. and we are joined by chris perez where we have seen you many times this week, my friend. and you have said that france to some extent feels alone, and what do you mean by that? >> well, i feel, that it is not that i feel, but it is being said in the papers that people are talking about it, and this idea that france is going to war in syria, and it is going to war against isis and not only in syria, but going to war against the islamists in mali and other places as well, and lot of the french people don't feel that france is backed up by nato or the other countries in the european union and maybe to some extent by the united states, but it is clear that president obama does not want to get deep thely involved in the wars. so there is a certain sense internationally that people are alone. and then here on the streets, people are just looking over
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their shoulders, and they are, i think that they are still scared. they are still feeling very fragile. >> and you say it is very fragile right now, and how so? how is that being demonstrated? >> well, contrast it with charlie hebdo back in january. there you had huge demonstrations, and massive turnouts on the street to say we rejekt this violence. that is not happening this time. we expected that there would be a fairly big demonstration here, and yesterday and in placido publique one week after the massacres took place, and that didn't happen. supposed to be a campaign on social media, and there was a campaign that said, let's all going to the cafes tonight, but they were not full by a long shot. if you go to the big department store, and i'm sure that you know it well, alex, normally at this time of the year, there are hundreds of children crowded in front of the windows there to see the puppet displays and the
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animated figures, and now that there are hardly any, and so there are all kinds of things that you are seeing that are kind of sad, and indicate that people are still very nervous. >> well, i do know the gallery there in lafayette, and it is a beautiful building, and the beautiful displays and i am sorry that they are not being take even advantage of. and with regard to the photographs around paris this week, which were the ones most moving to you, christopher? >> well w when you go to the outdoor cafes where the people were just mowed down while having a glass of wine and a late dinner, a little over a week ago. those are the ones that moved me the most, because those people, they were absolutely innocent. this is the last thing they expected. it was a beautiful evening, and unusually warm evening for november, and now you go to the places, and they are covered with candles, and flowers, and looking at the windows with bullet holes in them, and little
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j gestures that people have made to try to show that they reject the violence. i mean, one of the images that stays with me is that a pair of roses stuck into to a bullet hole in a cafe that is only a five-minute walk from here. today, i saw what is to me, the most moving moment. it was pouring rain, and i was watching a woman who was among other mourners at one of the cafes, and she had lit a candle, but it was raining so hard and she knew if she put it on the ground it would go out, and she stood there under her coat and stayed there next to her heart to keep it burning. it is moving, a and there are scenes like that. >> yes, a lot of poignant expressions, and thank you for sharing them with us from paris, christopher dickie. it is a stunning finding that a new abc poll says that 838% of americans believe that a
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don't miss a day of brilinta. the attacks in paris have raised fears among americans. the latest nbc news online poll conducted by survey monkey shows a majority of americans are worried that they or someone in their family might become the victim of a terrorist attack. 38% say they are somewhat worried. 16% acknowledge being very worried. isis videos this week threatening to attack washington and burn down the white house can only contribute to that anxiety. same for the isis video released wednesday which hints at an attack in new york's times square. new york's police commissioner is reassuring new yorkers that no credible or specific threat exists. >> we cannot be intimidated and that's what terrorists seek to do. they seek to create fear. they seek to intimidate. we will not be intimidated, and
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we will not live in fear. >> joining me now to talk about fear factor is one of the nation's foremost experts on dealing with fear. renowned spirituality expert and alternative medicine advocate de deepak chopra. thank you for joining me. we've heard the new york police commissioner and mayor say you can't live in fear. what's the reaction to that increasingly familiar refrain? >> i think it's a good refrain. and most people who are listening to this program who are watching us right now should realize realistically speaking their safety and their family's safety is statistically very high. they have nothing to fear. of course, you know, we're living with a terrible situation where there's a cancer in the midst of us emotionally and spirituality, frozen people from
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the bronze age have become the cancer of our civilization. we need to trust our leaders and our governments to come together to excise this cancer. in the meanwhile as individuals, it's our responsibility to reassure ourselves, to be peaceful ourselves, to think peacefully, to act peacefully, to speak peacefully, to reassure our families that we are all fine. but most important, we can be the peace we want to see in the world ultimately and that's the long-term solution. and the short-term solution, of course, like you deal with any urgent illness, which this is. it's a cancer in our midst. >> this kind of a fear i should say on the heels of that also four in ten in that nbc news survey monkey poll we referenced say they felt depressed in the wake of the attacks. when does that depression become
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a problem? >> well, when it overwhelms our daily routine and our daily life and our ability to act socially in the ways we used to, when we're afraid of going to places in public, then it has certainly taken over. i think we should live our daily routines, and we should be peaceful ourselves. and we should think peacefully, act peacefully, create many changes in our lives to reassure ourselves that all is well, which statistically it is, by the way. most people who are listening to this and watching this 99.9 % of them are safe and are going to be safe. >> what about for parents of young children? i should say, my daughter's been texting me as i've been broadcasting, and she's old enough certainly to understand the world around her. i mean, she's not a young child, but i wonder about those parents, how do they help their
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young children cope? >> if your child is less than 5 or 6, please do not expose that child to the media at the moment. they're not going to be able to comprehend. if your child is over 6 or 7, then they should be aware of the facts, but they should also be reassured by you that their safety is not impacted. if they see you panic, if they see you fearful, then, of course, they will be overwhelmed by it, too, so you have to, again, be centered within yourself. take a little time to reflect. take a little time to reassure them. take a little time to be with them and talk to them. and make them feel safe. and be factual in that their safety is not affected. >> deepak, i do want to let viewers know you have this new book, it's called "super genes." before we end the broadcast, can you briefly explain what people can learn from your new book? >> well, every experience we
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have, including the experience of fear, also the experience of love, compassion, joy, and daily habits like good sleep and meditation and exercise and breathing and hydration actually change the activity of your genes, in that they activate the genes that are responsible for healing and self-regulation and downregulate the genes that are responsible for inflammation. only 5% of disease-related gene mutations are fully penetrate. we are not controlled by our genes. we influence their activity. >> thanks so much, deepak chopra providing some comfort and great advice during these troubling times. much appreciated. that's a wrap of this show, and we've got new video of air strikes of isis controlled oil fields but how much impact will they have on the islamic state's pocketbooks? i'm alex witt.
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