> 911. >> we the jury find the defendant -- >> she was funny and friendly and captivating. ♪ good-bye ♪ >> she was that kind of kid. you were just drawn to her. >> in life and even after her death. her murder. >> i should have protected her. >> a brother haunted by should haves thought he could vent his grief by making a movie. >> i'm jennifer. >> a low budget feature about the crime. >> i saw a guy outside. >> but along the way he became

the star of someone else's whodunit. a cop turned moviemaker who met the brother and saw not a sister's champion, but her killer. >> i'm demanding justice for jennifer morton. >> or so he says. aren't you taking two and two and coming up with five? tonight, the murder, the movies and the real investigation, a case filled with red flags, red herrings and possible clues from the grave. >> i'm thinking, you know, jenny, are you trying to send us a message. >> keith morrison, "scenes from a murder." many were devoted to her in life, some obsessed with her in death. thanks for joining us. i'm stone films. >> and i'm ann curry. she was a good-hearted free spirited young woman who knew her mind and where she was going. something about her was extraordinarily compelling and that seems to be even more the case since her death. >> she left behind a brother so tortured by her loss, some would wonder if it wasn't just grief that guilt that was driving his obsession.

what happened then, he says, was surreal. here's keith morrison. this is a story about movies, three of them actually. the first, pure, simple, about her, the radiant star. and then those others, those would-be sherlocks, chasing the riddle down their strange, opposing paths. but she like the center of any movieland mystery, as you will see, hides her secret well. >> it kept me awake at night, just thinking about it and thinking about it and thinking about it. it kept me awake at night but i found the best relief was physical. i would go to the gym, and i would lift weights, and i would run, and i would do all of these things to just try and exhaust myself in hopes that that night i would be able to sleep and not think about "god, what happened that day." >> his name is tom morgan. his sister, jennifer, 23, tall, attractive, funny, college marketing major, is our star and

the subject of our mystery. >> what was the thing that got you obsessed? >> i felt like we knew who did it. >> and so, as this strange tale unspooled, tom would put his suspicions in his own movie. a fictional tale to point an accusing finger toward truth. but making movies, someone might have told him, can be hazardous, especially when someone else makes the sequel. so be careful, they should have said. be careful what you wish for. >> that's right. >> in our little movie tonight, this will be the opening scene, bucolic, southern sun. a charming college campus in florence, south carolina, november 9th, 1994. a mother has been trying to phone her daughter, her daughter jennifer at the mobile home park which was her off-campus residence. >> i had started calling her. the line was busy, busy, busy.

>> at the very same moment, across town, a woman in the final stages of labor is also trying to reach her best friend jennifer, who'd promised to be with her for the birth. >> the line was busy. and it was busy for the next hour and the next hour, for hours upon hours. >> they are calling the one woman, who outside these few frames of video, you will never meet. the young woman at the center of this tale because at that very moment, jennifer morgan is lying on her bed, and she is dead in a house fire. it was just after 12:30 p.m. by the time the fire department arrived, the intensity of the blaze had roasted one end of the mobile home. they knocked the fire down and discovered the body burned beyond recognition lying face down on the bed. summoned to the scene of the fire was a young detective named kenny boone. >> i can remember it just like it was yesterday.

november the 9th, 1994. it was on a wednesday. >> as the grim wheel of investigation began to turn, the news was sent to jennifer's family. her mother kerry, her father jim struggled to come to grips with the worst news parents could ever hear. their baby, the last of their four children, was dead. >> it just takes time for it to really sink in and say, yeah, it really is true, and, you know, you're never going to see her again. >> the whole family was all but paralyzed by grief. jennifer had three siblings, an older sister, a brother near her own age and tom, the eldest. >> tom was a protector. tom always wanted to take the role over his dad, wanted to know who she was seeing, what she was doing, taking care of her. >> so you felt you could go to bed at night if she was out because of tom? >> absolutely. >> tom was right there waiting for her, exactly. >> he would be waiting for her to come in. >> exactly. >> but on that awful day, tom was in charlotte, north carolina. he'd just moved there from michigan and was staying with a

friend. it was late afternoon when tom's dad called though at first what he said didn't seem to make sense. >> he said, don't come home until tomorrow. and i just sat there, and i said, dad, what are you talking about? >> it took a moment, then he told tom what that meant. >> and he said, your sister died today in a fire, and i don't want you to come home until tomorrow, and he hung up the phone. >> and then, said tom, he virtually collapsed, went numb, cried and waited until the next morning to make the four-hour drive to his parents' home in myrtle beach. on his way, said tom, he stopped at the trailer park where his sister had died. >> i had to see that trailer burned. it was still all roped off with the caution tape, and i just stood outside there for probably 15 or 20 minutes just still in disbelief and just cried. >> there was no police presence, said tom.

but then why would there be? it was an accident, after all. time was a blur as jenny's parents planned the funeral. and then two days after her death, kenny boone called, and they tried to absorb more news. jennifer's death was not an accident after all. whoever set that fire was trying to hide a murder. only the method was still unknown. >> she hadn't been stabbed. she hadn't been raped. she hadn't been shot. and at the time they said, we'd like you to keep it quiet. we don't want anything tainted by you telling people because everybody still thought it was an accident. >> and now their grief was salted with anger and confusion and impossible questions. the investigator, kenny boone, told them what he knew, that he saw right away the fire was so intense, it had to have some extra fuel, some sort of accelerant. >> we started taking samples from the carpet. i immediately got those results right back.

>> what'd they say? >> positive for gasoline. >> boone sent the body to the forensic pathologist. >> there was no soot, no carbon monoxide in her lungs. we knew she had to be dead prior to the fire. >> but who would have wanted to kill jennifer? and why? >> she was very, very loved by a lot of people. and she was just that kind of kid. you were just drawn to her. >> tom morgan was inconsolable but found some comfort in believing his sister's killer would be found. >> i had complete confidence in our law enforcement. i had complete confidence that they were doing all the right things and that they were going to bring this thing to some closure for us. >> and so did that arson investigator in charge of the case. after all, the murder and the fire to cover it up all happened in broad daylight right in the middle of a mobile home park next to a busy four-lane highway. looking back 13 years later now, kenny boone is sheriff of florence county. >> i mean i really thought that

we was going to go straight to, you know, maybe a boyfriend or an acquaintance. this, he was convinced, would not be so hard to solve. of course, things don't always work out the way we'd like them to. and that movie idea? it'll soon be time for that part of the story. there would be two movies, remember, twin parades of hope and folly. but first suspicion falls as it often will on an attentive young male. >> clingy, protective, stalky, a key -- just stalked her. we sent two women into a real guys night out to see if they could find the guy who uses just for men. it's me. no way.

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♪ and many ways i loved ♪ >> this is the last home video of jennifer morgan. recorded the summer before her death. ♪ good-bye ♪

>> you go girl. >> she was a few months from her college graduation, a degree in marketing. as far as she knew her whole lifetime was spread out ahead of her. >> swing again. up one. >> got the video camera out. >> couldn't wait to get out of school. couldn't wait to be able to make money. couldn't wait to kind of go off into the world and do her thing. just very ambitious. >> jim and jenny. >> oh. >> jenny, turn around. oh, man. >> they buried her or what was left of her after the fire in this garden-like cemetery in the finest casket they could find. >> we were asked by the police department to make sure in case something did come up in the future that they could exhume her body and do dna testing. >> boone pieced together a time line for the day of the killing.

jennifer attended her first class of the day. francis marion campus around 9:30 a.m. >> i think jenny came home between classes. i think jenny had gotten something to drink. i think she sat down on the couch, had opened a book, set a drink down on top of a coaster on a coffee table. >> cause they're there. >> we found those things, and then she winds up face down on her bed. >> face down and dead. and so the killer -- >> used the fire to cover up any additional evidence that might have been there. >> that included any fibers, hairs or fingerprints that might lead to a suspect. but what about a motive? the melted television and a few pieces of jewelry left behind, fused by the heat, seemed to rule out robbery. jennifer's autopsy revealed no sign of sexual assault. there was, however, one very curious discovery. clutched in jennifer's hand, not on her wrist, but in her grip

was a watch. >> now, and, you know, now in our mind, you know, i'm thinking, you know, jenny, are you trying to send us a message? you know, does this mean something? >> maybe because as boone soon found out that watch had been a gift from him. >> i gave it to her as a gift for christmas or maybe her birthday, and it was a fossil watch. >> he is scott snowden. back then he was jennifer's special boyfriend. they met through his sister dina, who was jennifer's best friend. and, yes, the woman who was having her baby the day jennifer was killed. >> she had ideas that maybe she might one day be married to your brother? >> oh, yeah, they talked about it. yeah. six children, they were going to have a basketball team. >> they were in love? >> yeah, they were in love. >> but when scott and jennifer enrolled in different colleges many miles apart, their romance was put on hold.

>> we knew the distance would be a strain on the relationship. so we -- she started seeing other guys. i started seeing other girls. but we still talked and kept it close. >> and did you intend to resume a full-time relationship when you graduated? >> that's hard to say. that was my opinion at the time. >> investigator boone confirmed snowden couldn't have been the killer. professors proved he was three hours away at his college the morning of jennifer's death. but what about that watch? why would a woman likely fighting for her life hold on to a thing like that? >> i have no idea why she would have been clutching that watch. >> but scott had questions of his own like why was she at home that morning? >> it was awfully odd for her to leave campus in the middle of the day like that during her classes to come home, unless there was a break or something. >> it's not something she would have normally done? >> it's not something she normally would have done. for it to happen so early in the

morning, it shows that it must have been somebody she knew. >> scott's sister dina knew someone, a fraternity boy named chris. dina remembers jennifer complaining that chris would come over and stay for hours even when she begged him to leave. >> he was one of those guys that wanted to really date her and thought that that was someone that he could really spend the rest of his life with, but she did not feel that way towards him at all. >> his name was chris woodson, a science major jennifer met at her college campus. scott had met him too, in fact. it was the last night scott saw jennifer at her trailer when chris showed up. it was two nights before she died. >> i was there for five, maybe ten minutes. and i could see it on him that he was jealous but -- >> what do you mean you could see it on him? >> i mean i could just see -- he's like, what are you doing here and he's just jealous, doesn't like another guy over at

his girlfriend's house. >> he looked territorial sort of? >> yeah. he went in and we got to the door and i blew her a kiss and she winked at me and smiled real big and we said, i'll talk to you later, and that was it. >> jim and jenny are -- >> the morgan family also knew about chris woodson. and you know what they say about first impressions. >> before we ever met him, he would call 25, 30 times on a saturday if she came home from college. >> clingy, protective, stalky like he just stalked her. >> how long did this go on? >> maybe six months. >> six months probably, yeah, six months. >> it was still going on, they said, the weekend before jennifer's death as the family gathered for an early thanksgiving. >> the last weekend that i saw her when i was at home, the phone rang at least ten times. to the point where it became annoying and i said, you got to do something about this

relationship that you have. and she just said, it's a friend of mine. you know, we had a couple of dates and he's just a friend. >> did you say what's this guy stalking you? >> she just acted like it was annoying. >> before long investigator boone had heard about chris woodson too. and when he brought the young man in for questioning, his suspicions only intensified. >> i remember chris. he was crying. his emotions and stuff, the way he was acting, you know, it kind of led me to believe that this could be our man. >> kind of, indeed. boone was so suspicious, he put a polygrapher on standby then started his interrogation. chris readily admitted he loved jennifer and knew she did not love him the same way. he said they had sex the day before she died at his apartment here on campus and did her laundry for her too. that was the day he said that he admitted his deepest feelings

for her even though she didn't want to hear them. here's a quote from the transcript of the interrogation. "i said, jennifer, promise me one thing. she was like, what? i said, promise me that you know i love you. nything ever happens. she was like, you know, quit. nothing ain't going to never happen to me," and it did. one more thing, chris told boone he argued with jennifer about their relationship and left her trailer about 10:30 the night before her death. >> i felt like this could be it because the motive could be there because of his jealousy or anger. >> investigator boone alerted the polygrapher. it was time to take that test. and meanwhile, who was leaving gifts at the cemetery and why? >> we found a bracelet at jennie's grave.

>> kenny boone put his suspect, chris woodson, into a car and drove him the 90 miles from florence, south carolina, to columbia where a polygrapher was waiting at the headquarters of the state police or s.l.e.d., as they're called. less than a week after the murder, boone felt sure he had his man and then the test result. >> and at that time the

polygraph examination came back inconclusive, which could have went either way. you know, that was a red flag and we just weren't sure. >> boone says chris woodson claimed that the morning of the murder he'd been paying college fees and played racquetball too before going to engineering class. was he telling the truth? still suspicious but not enough to take him in? >> right. >> but the morgan family was convinced that kenny boone had, in fact, found the murderer, chris woodson. >> when you heard that it was a murder, did your mind go to suspicions? >> exactly. >> yes. >> my mind went right to who did it. >> why woodson? a whole list of suspicions, for one thing, his obsessive phone calls, almost like a stalker, they felt. and they believed jennifer must have been attacked by someone she knew. >> she w she was not a small girl. she would have fought back if it was someone who came to her trailer that she did not know.

she would have fought back. >> and their suspicions grew. one of the weirdest things happened the day after the incident in the trailer park. this boy, chris, and one of his fraternity brothers came over to the morgan house. and out of the blue, unsolicited offered a bizarre theory as to how jennifer may have been killed before the fire got to her. >> that what probably happened was a lamp fell over and probably ignited the carpet, the chemicals in the carpets made these fumes, and these fumes probably killed jennifer before the fire ever got to her. >> the thing that made the story suspicious, said the morgans, was that when chris told it just one day after jennifer's death, no one knew she was dead before the fire. >> we all looked at each other like how odd is that? this person who was so in love with her would come, and instead of shedding one tear or even saying i'm so sorry, he sat there with a fraternity brother and described what probably

happened that day. >> in fact, kenny boone didn't tell them somebody killed jennifer and tried to hide the crime with a fire until the day after chris offered his explanation. later that same week, the morgans saw chris again at the funeral. >> did you watch him? >> chris' reaction was very stoic, really expressionless and as i would speak to my relatives, he would walk over to where we were all standing and get close to where we were almost trying to overhear conversation. >> that struck me immediately. >> what did it seem like he was doing? >> wanted to know if anybody thought he did it. does anybody suspect me? is anybody saying anything? i had gone to the caretaker, and i had said, has anyone come and inquired about jennifer's grave, and he described chris.

>> even when detective kenny boone decided not to arrest chris woodson, the morgans remained deeply suspicious. partly because the odd things didn't stop, even after jennifer was buried and the months began to turn into years. >> around her birthday or the date of her death, we would come out and find flowers that were laid here, and we would always ask the people who were close friends of hers, oh, did you lay the flowers, and we could never account for who had put them there over and over again. >> and it wasn't just flowers the family found but couldn't explain. >> we found a bracelet at jennie's grave. a string bracelet with beads laying on her -- >> right on the stone. the flat stone. >> yes, i had gone to the

caretaker, and i had said, has anyone come and inquired about jennifer's grave? and he said, yes, and he described chris. >> surely this was significant, thought the morgans, and perhaps would trigger law enforcement to take a second look at chris. >> when you called them, what was the response? >> i had called the lead investigator at the time, and he would always assure me, we are working on this, not a day goes by that i don't think about the case. >> years went by, and tom morgan and his family heard less and less from investigators growing more and more pessimistic that anybody would ever be charged. mind you, jennifer's father had been feeling that way since two days after the fire when he came here to the trailer park to pick up her car. >> i could tell at the time that in my mind that it was not an accidental death. i'll just say that. >> was there a guard around the place? >> no, i was told they would be

guarding and watching the property, but there was no one around. the premise was destroyed. i figured that there would absolutely be no resolve. >> so that investigation was what? >> it was botched. >> what of the evidence investigators did have, at least they had that watch, the old boyfriend's gift found in jennifer's hand. tom thought the killer might have put it there as a message of some sort. >> now that's strange to me that that watch would be in her hand and both the guys were there on monday night. both knew who gave her that watch. >> it seemed to tom that the watch must be important evidence. did the wanna-be boyfriend, chris, plant the watch in her hand just to make boyfriend scott look guilty? surely an interesting question. and yet authorities simply sent the watch to jennifer's mother. >> that's not evidence apparently. so if that's the way that evidence, potential evidence was treated, i'm sure there's not much. >> but even as tom says he tried to dampen the anger that was

eating him up, he kept finding what looked like evidence. jennifer's grave itself seemed to be throwing up strange tantalizing clues. >> almost as if she was down there tossing it to us. >> nine years after jennifer's death, her father, jim, was

and we remember anita datar, a woman who devoted her life to helping the world's poor including women and girls in mali. lifting them up with health and education. anita embodied the values of service and compassion that no terrorist can extinguish. their legacy will endure in the family and friends who carry on their work. they remind me of my daughters, or my mother who on the one hand had their whole life ahead of them and the other hand had

devoted their lives to helping other people. and it is worth us remembering when we look at the statistics that there are beautiful, wonderful lives behind the terrible death tolls that these places. now, over the years, our friends here in asia have been victims of terrorism, and many of them are close counterterrorism partners with us. so my time here has also been an opportunity to work with many of our partners in the asia pacific that are members of our coalition against isil. australia, canada japan, malaysia new zealand, singapore, south korea and taiwan. which brings me to the point i want to emphasize here. for more than a year the united states has build a coalition against isil of some 65 nations.

given the focus of america's campaign, sometimes the contributions of our partners are overlooked. in fact, since the g20, a number of our coalition members have stepped up with new commitments. so today i want to take a moment to recognize how our allies and partners advance every aspect of our strategy. nearly two dozen of our partners contribute to the military campaign, which has taken more than 8,000 strikes against isil so far. and as i've said we're ready to welcome or cooperate with other countries that are determined to truly fight isil as well. 15 countries have deployed personnel to train and support local forces in iraq. the united arab emirates and germany are organizing 25 coalition partners to stabilize areas in iraq liberated from isil. italy is according the effort to train iraqi police. on the political front, u.s.

leadership brought all of the key countries together in vienna to discuss a common understanding on the principles for ending the syrian civil war. on the humanitarian front, the united states is helping to lead the effort to mobilize more aid for the syrian people including refugees. more than 40 countries have now passed or strengthened laws to prevent the flow of foreign terrorist fighters and 34 nations, including the united states have arrested foreign terrorist fighters. saudi arabia is helping to coordinate the crackdown on isil financing. the united arab emirates new messaging center is working to discredit isis propaganda and malaysia just opened the creation of its own center to do the same. and by joining our summit at the united nations that we organized this fall more than 100 nations, more than 20 multi lateral institutions in some 120 civil society groups including many leaders from muslim

communities around the world, have become part of a global movement against isil and its twisted ideology. all of which is to say that our coalition will not relent. we will not accept the idea that terrorist assaults on restaurants, on theaters, and hotels, are the new normal or that we are powerless to stop them. after all that's precisely what terrorists like isil want. because ultimately that's the only way they can win. it's the nature of terrorism. they can't beat us on the battlefield, so they try to terrorize us into being afraid into changing our patterns of behavior, into panicking, into abandoning our allies and partners and to retreating from the world. and as president, i will not let that happen. in our diverse societies, everybody can do their part. and we will not give into fear

or start turning on each other, or treating some people differently because of religion or race or background. that wouldn't just be a betrayal of our values it would also feed isil's propaganda. their assertion, which is absolutely false, that we must absolutely reject, that we are somehow at war with an entire religion. the united states could never be at war with any religion because america is made up of multiple religions. we're strengthened by people from every religion including muslim americans. so i want to be as clear as i can on this. prejudice and discrimination helps isil and undermines our national security. so even as we destroy isil on the battlefield -- and we will destroy them -- we will take back land that they are currently in. we will cut off their financing. we will hunt down their

leadership. we will dismantle their networks and their supply lines and we will ultimately destroy them. even as we are in the process of doing that we want to make sure that we don't lose our own values and our own principles. and we can all do our part by upholding the values of tolerance and diversity and equality that help keep america strong. the united states will continue to lead this global coalition. we are intensifying our strategy on all fronts with local partners on the ground. we are going to keep on rolling back isil in iraq and in syria. and take out more of their leaders and commanders so they do not threaten us. and we will destroy this terrorist organization. and we'll keep working with our allies and partners for the opportunity and justice that

helps defeat violent extremism. we'll keep standing up for the human rights and dignity of all people, because that is contrary to what these terrorists believe. that's part of how we defeat them. and i'm confident we will succeed. the hateful vision of an organization like isil is no match for the strength of nations and people around the world who are united to live in security and peace and in harmony. so with that i'm going to take a couple of questions. we'll start with angela gronking of bloomer. >> thank you, mr. president. you're scheduled to meet this week with president hollande in washington to talk about stepping up efforts against isil even further. given that roishl would be part of the coalition that france proposes, have you seen any signs in the past couple days of russia redirecting its military efforts in syria to actually focus on isil?

are there any circumstances that you could see president assad remaining in power even if only temporarily, if that's what it took to effectively have a broad alliance directed at isil? and finally, as you've said the u.s. won't work with russia if their goal is to keep assad in power. if that's the case, is defeating isil or destroying isil a realistic goal? >> well first of all, destroying isil is not only a realistic goal. we're going to get it done and we're going to pursue it with every aspect of american power and with all the coalition partners that we've assembled. it's going to get done. it will be helpful if russia directs its focus on isil. and i do think that as a consequence of isil claiming responsibility for bringing down their plane, there is an increasing awareness on the part

of president putin, that isil poses a greater threat to them than anything else in the region. the question at this point is whether they can make the strategic adjustment that allows them to be effective partners with us and with the other 65 countries who are already part of the counter-isil campaign. and we don't know that yet. so far, over the last several weeks, when they started taking strikes in syria, their principal targets have been the moderate opposition that they felt threatened assad. their principal goal appeared to be, if you follow the strikes that they took to fortify the position of the assad regime. and that does not add to our efforts against isil.

in some ways it strengthens it because isil is also fighting many of those groups that the russians were hitting. when we were in turkey i discussed with president putin in a previous pull-aside his need to recognize that he needs to go after the people who killed russian citizens. and those aren't the groups that they were currently hitting with strikes. so they're going to have to make an adjustment in terms of what their prioritizing. more broadly, i said this before. i said it to president putin five years ago, and i repeated it to him just a few days ago. the issue with assad is not simply the way that he has treated his people. it's not just a human rights issue. it's not just a question of supporting somebody who has been ruthlessly dropping bombs on his own civilian populations.

as a practical matter it is not conceivable that mr. assad can regain legitimacy in a country in which a large majority of that country despises assad. and will not stop fighting so long as he's in power. which means that the civil war perpetuates itself. and so the goal in vienna is to see, with all the countries around the table, including saudi arabia and turkey and iran and russia as well as the united states and other countries that have concerns with this whether we can arrive at a political transition process that recognizes the need for a new government and can quell the fighting bring about a ceasefire and allows all of us

to refocus our attention on this barbaric organization that is killing so many people. russia has not officially committed to a transition of assad moving out, but they did agree to the political transition process. and i think we'll find out over the next severalhether or not we can bring about that change of perspective with the russians. keep in mind that we all have an interest in maintaining a syrian state, because we don't want complete chaos. i mean, and there are problems that we've seen in for example, lebanon, when the machinery of state entirely breaks down. so there's going to be a need for the international community and the united nations to work in order to maintain a syrian state and be able to move forward with the political transition that's orderly. and that's going to be difficult. but that's what we have to focus on. in terms of the position the

united states and the other 65 members of the coalition, my view on assad is it will not work to keep him in power. we can't stop the fight. even if i were to cynically say that my priority is isil and not removing assad regardless of the terrible things that he's done to his people the united states could not stop the fighting syria by those who are opposed to assad's rule. and so this is a practical issue, not just a matter of conscience. and i think that there are a large number of measures of this coalition, including president hollande who agree with me on that. okay? michael sheer? >> thank you, mr. president. on a different topic, when you

go to paris next week for the climate talks, you do so in the shadow of what happened in that city a week ago. could you talk a little bit about how you think those terror attacks might affect the talks. and substantively on the talks, can you talk about concerns that the united states might not have the ability to -- to convince poor countries, that nations will help them pay for what they need to do to achieve the climate talks, given especially the republican opposition back home. and on one separate matter, could you comment on the investigations that we reported about in our paper this morning, into whether or not intelligence officials are altering the assessments of the isil campaign to make them seem more rosy? >> i'll take the last question first. one of the things i insisted on the day i walked into the oval office was that i don't want

intelligence shaded by politics. i don't want it shaded by the desire to tell a feel-good story. we can't make good policy unless we've got good accurate hard-headed, clear-eyed intelligence. i believe that the department of defense and all those who head up our intelligence agencies understand that. and that i have made it repeatedly clear to all my top national security advisers. that i never want them to hold back. even if the intelligence or their opinions about the intelligence, their analysis or interpretations of the data contradict current policy. so that's a message that we've been adamant about from the start. i don't know what we'll discover

with respect to what was going on at sinkom. i think that's best left to the igs. i've communicated to the chairman of the joint chiefs as well as secretary carter that i expect that we get to the bottom of whether or not what you describe has been happening. there are always going to be some disputes with respect to how to interpret facts on the ground. you know i get intelligence briefings every single day, and there are times where they're making their best judgments. they'll say with moderate confidence or low confidence or high confidence, this is what we think is happening. there may be times where there are disputes internally among various intelligence agencies about that. but i don't know the details of this. what i do know is my

expectation, which is the highest fidelity to facts, data the truth. and if there are disagreements in terms of how folks are interpreting the facts, then that should be reflected in the reports that we receive. that some folks think this is going on. other folks think that's going on. and that's part of what i weigh in terms of making decisions. one last thing i'll say, as a consumer of this intelligence it's not as if i've been receiving wonderfully rosy glowing portraits of what's been happening in iraq and syria over the last year and a half. so to the extent that it's been shaded, again, i don't know the details of what the i.g. may discover, but it feels at my level at least we've had a clear-eyed sober assessment of

where we've made real progress, and where we have not. on paris a lot of the discussion out here both at the g20, apec and finally here at assinian we have to get a strong deal. i'm confident we can. 160 countries have put together plans for how they can reduce emissions. that accounts for about 90% of the world's emitters. and the key to a strong agreement is gonna be that although there's going to be differentiation between countries, the united states doesn't expect that our obligations are identical to laos for example, given our levels of development, how much

carbon we emit compared to theirs. that everybody has a plan that everybody is accountable to a single set of reporting requirements, that there's transparency about what each country is doing, that once we've set that architecture in place, in five years' time we can review what we've done turn up the dials in light of additional information, and additional technology. in some cases, we may make progress faster than we expected, and we can increase our targets. so, you know the key is to make sure that everybody is doing their part. you raise one important issue and that is climate finance. there are going to be a number of countries who recognize the threat of climate change want to do something about it but they also have large populations suffering from extreme poverty who don't have electricity, who

don't have the ability to feed their families. and any leader of those countries has to ask themselves am i going to be sacrificing development and poverty alleviation in order to deal with climate change particularly since a lot of more developed countries are responsible for at least the current carbon emissions that are causing climate change. and so the answer to that is we've all agreed a finance mechanism to help these countries adapt. in some cases, leapfrog old technologies so that instead of building old, dirty power plants, here's some smart, clean-energy plants. and we'll help you through technology transfer and financing so that you can achieve your development goals, but not add to the carbon problem. so far, with a target of 100 billion, we've reached between private and public sources, 62

billion, and that target did not need to be met until 2020 based on our original commitments. so we're well on aur way to meeting these commitments. and it's a smart investment for us to make. you know sometimes back home critics will argue there's no point in us doing something about getting our house in order, when it comes to climate change, because other countries won't do anything. you know it will just mean that we're in a less competitive position. well when i've met with president xi and china signed on to an aggressive commitment that took a major argument away from those critics. we now have the two largest emitters signed on and it makes sense for us and the chinese, and the europeans and others to

help these countries, because ultimately us knowyou know, if a country like india, for example, with over a billion people, is a major polluter that's going to affect all of us. if on the other hand they're developing and growing in a clean way, that's going to be good for all of us. all right? i guess you want to know how the atmosphere as a consequence of the attack in paris, would affect it. look, i think it's absolutely vital for every country, every leader, to send a signal that the viciousness of a handful of killers does not stop the world from doing vital business. and that paris, one of the most beautiful, enticing cities in the world, is not going to be

cowered by the violent demented actions of a few. and that's part of the overall message that i want to very clearly send the american people. we do not succumb to fear. that's the primary power that these terrorists have over us. they cannot strike a mortal blow against france or the united states or a country like malaysia, but they can make people fearful, and that's understandable. because that could have been us. that could have been our families. that could have been our children in these places. and our hearts are broken when we see these