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spike lee is back, making a new film about gun violence in chicago. spike lee joins me live here at 30 rock. good morning. we start with donald trump, and the question now facing republicans, just over two months from iowa, can anyone in the gop stop him? this weekend, trump says he's rallying a "movement," and evoked richard nixon's famous phrase about a silent majority. >> this is a movement. this is not trump. this is not anything. this is a movement. remember, it is a movement. we used to say silent majority. it's not a silent majority, it's really a noisy majority. >> once again trump finds

himself in a controversy, this time for apparently mocking a reporter who has a medical condition. >> now the poor guy you got to see this guy, i don't know what i said, i don't remember. he's going i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. >> and once again, trump is not apologizing. instead, going on offense, claiming he wasn't mocking the reporter. >> because i ex-presidented myself very strongly it's groveling, i'm trying to show groveling but all of a sudden i found that i was mocking somebody. i may have met him, some of the people back there, they reported me every day, i don't know who they are, what they look like but i know their name and they know what i'm talking about, i know their name and some treat me good and some treat me badly, mostly badly because they don't come from where we come from, but i know their name but i don't know. this reporter is so happy. people have heard of him now. nobody ever heard of the guy. >> trump has now been first or

second in polls for over 130 days. can anyone challenge him? ted cruz is making a move. one poll shows him just two points behind trump in iowa. chris christie just got an endorsement from a major newspaper in new hampshire, but trump himself might have his eye on marco rubio. >> rubio comes out, he represents for a short period of time the people of florida. he's got the worst attendance record in the united states senate, doesn't vote. he's weak on, very weak on illegal immigration, totally in favor of amnesty, which you can't do. okay? >> joining me now is our panel, msnbc national correspondent joy reed, reuters political reporter erin mcpike, and "the nation's" john nichols. thank you all for being here.

>> thank you, rev. >> thank you, reverend. >> what is their plan to stop trump? >> at the moment it appears they didn't have a plan. last weekend, friday, gop donors are looking at each other wondering which one will pull a trigger on some sort of plan to take down trump. 501 c3 group formed trying to run ads against trrp trmp but i don't understand what ads grg to do at this point. i think the base of the republican party a third of it is dead set on donald trump and i don't really understand what the gop establishment thinks it will do to stop him. >> trump talks about his controversial statements don't hurt him, they help him. >> sometimes i'll make a statement they'll say, oh, this is the end. this is the end! right? this is the end.

it's finally going to happen, and then my guys walk into the office, mr. trump, our poll numbers have just gone through the roof. say what? that's only happened about four times so far. >> now, erin, despite the fact there's a lot of bragadocia there, it's true he seems to get helped by controversies, not harmed by them. >> oh, it's absolutely true and part of that is that the republican base likes him a lot more than they like or trust the media, so i would agree. he is right. lot of times his poll numbers go up. the other thing i would say here is look for his poll numbers to go up again next week after thanksgiving, after people have gotten together and talked about it, because the more and more you hear a number of republican voters get together and talk about it, they talk about what it is they like about donald trump. i think he's going to go up a little bit more from here. >> john, i mean joy referred to t the wall street journal has done an article on it, the big

donors are looking for a way to come after him. is there a route to stopping trump sort of just wishing, hoping, praying that he implodes? >> well, one thing to understand about donald trump is that since he got into this race with credible but not dominant numbers, he has meticulously taken down everyone who has gotten in his way, and that's the other side, the flipside of this thing is that when somebody comes up as his credible challenger, trump turns his energy on that candidate. he did it to bush, he did it to scott walker. i argue to marco rubio and he'll likely do it with cruz. that's a key part of this whole thing. it isn't just the establishment is struggling. it's this reality when they find somebody trump focuses on that person and takes them down. i think the key on this thing is two-fold. trump is likely to be slowed down only if you can beat him in

iowa and in new hampshire. the way to do that is with different candidates, not with one candidate. so in iowa you look at cruz coming up. cruz is a very skilled campaigner. he's put a lot of energy into iowa. he is credible there. batch what he does. i think he's going to take a lot of ben carson's support, build on his own, potentially come into a lead there. in new hampshire, it is much harder, but when you see this endorsement of chris christie today, that's what that's about, the idea in new hampshire has to be to pull together the mainstream republicans, those who are, you know, very conservative but maybe deal in something a little bit closer to the mainstream america politics than trump. you see an attempt to downplay bush, downplay kasich, move those numbers over at least in this case perhaps to christie, and get one credible contender against him in new hampshire. >> how do you explain that he's

been able to in many ways bring down rubio. now he's working on cruz. carson has gone way down, a lot of that self-inflicted. >> still focused on rubio and i think that remains to be seen where that goes because marco rubio is just beginning a major ad buy and maybe that will move numbers, big advertising buys on television have moved numbers in the past, and remains to be seen whether it can. whether this union leader endorsement of chris christie last night, this morning will do

anything to move chris christie's numbers, that's hard to say. that paper endorsed newt gingrich in 2011 and he did not beat mitt romney in the state of new hampshire. chris christie is polling low at 5% to 7% in new hampshire. it's marco rubio that the establishment wants to rally around, but who knows that that will make any difference? cruz is quite close to trump in iowa but in new hampshire, it may hurt him. i've heard a number of voters saying they to not want to go with the establishment candidate. they like trump and cruz, they're anti-establishment and keep saying marco rubio used to be an anti-establishment guy but now he is the establishment. we don't want him. i think everybody in new hampshire is so far behind donald trump, the idea that getting behind chris christie this late in the game, i don't know that's going to do much good. >> joy, tomorrow, donald trump's meeting with leading black pastors it's billed, some are saying they're just going to

meet, some are saying they're going to endorse. now aside from the fact of my opinion of donald trump and others, the thing that's interesting here is that he is going for a block that represents a lot, if not the majority of black voters. lot of people don't understand even in a transforming time, the majority of black voters attend church. it may not be the traditional church, it may be the megachurch. is he playing on a weakness that the democrats have left an opening who have not dealt with the church, where the vote is? >> yes and it's interesting. i think you're right in that people do underestimate the extent to which the pastor, the church is still probably the most compelling secentrifugal

force with the zrovoting base especially african-american women. the lead organizer is endorsing donald trump. the rest are willing to take the meeting. it means that number one democrats have left an opening. i think you have seen with all of the three major, really two major democratic candidates now trying to make up ground with black voters because there's a sense productly belong black voters the democratic party takes them for granted. >> they need to come in front of black religious leaders and trump has on it it because they cannot look like they're not only taking it for granted but only playing to one side of a community that may not represent voters. stay with me. lots more to come. we'll look at the new debate about defining terrorism in the wake of the shooting rampage at

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trump has a different message. >> we do have to look at the mosques very carefully. the mosques, a lot of things are happening in there, folks, a lot of things. there's some nastiness, there's some meanness there. there's something going on in the mosques and other places. people move into a house a block down the road. you know who's going in. you can see and you report them to the local police. everybody's their own cop in a way. you got to do it. would i approve waterboarding? you bet your [ bleep ] i'd approve it. you bet your [ bleep ], in a heartbeat. >> trump is also indicated he would support a database of muslims, and that he'd be open to shutting down some mosques. up to now rival gop candidates have been careful in criticizing him. joining me now is former ambassador to the united nations, and former governor of new mexico, bill richardson.

governor, thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend. nice to be with you. >> you know, you've been in politics a long time. have you ever seen this kind of rhetoric on the national level? >> no, i haven't seen this rhetoric and i was just in paris. i got back last night where the french people have rallied around their leaders, they've rallied as a community for the victims there, and then to hear this rhetoric on the right, shut down mosque, don't allow refugees to come in, data registry, the silence of the right when it comes to this planned parenthood attack in colorado, it shows that as a country, we need to come together and i applaud the president. i think the president was very right to send this calming message. he has a bully pulpit. i just traveled extensively

through airports, reverend, and i'm going to say something good about law enforcement, about the police, even tsa, everything seemed orderly. travelers were upbeat, they were cooperating. i think as a country when you leave -- >> let me ask you this, ambassador, governor, the attitudes that we are hearing here, how are people responding around the world? i mean, i was in paris and south africa right before the attack, when you got one flavor. how are we looking post-paris when you're hearing leading candidate on the republican side talking about closing mosques, datapoint for muslims. how is that playing around the world? you've just come back from paris. >> well, i hear it from diplomats, from friends, from ordinary people, saying what is happening to america, the land of civil liberties, of the free,

where is this rhetoric coming from? what i try to say to them is that look, this is donald trump and others. this is maybe 30% of the republican electorate. i try to tell them that a majority of the american people still have these values of decency, of democracy. you know, this planned parenthood issue reverend, i think this attorney general is a very good one. what she said was this was not just an attack on planned parenthood. this was a man with a history of domestic violence, animal abuse. he killed law enforcement official. >> right. >> he killed 11 innocent people. you know, i think that's the kind of calming positive assessment of where we are. >> i'm going to get into colorado later in the show, and you're right, but let me ask you something, you say that donald trump, that maybe 30%, but has

his gop rivals criticized him enough, have they taken him on and if not why not? >> they've been silent. they've been silent on trump, they were silent on colorado, on the mosque issue. i think the only ones that have spoken out like jeb bush and others have actually gone down in the polls. now, my prediction, i know you had a very distinguished panel earlier reverend but i think the voters of new hampshire and iowa, iowa is in the primaries, they have a way of sending mess am imag amages. i don't think trump will win either of the two primaries. i think the accumulation of his insults and rhetoric is eventually going to register at the polls. i think by the middle of the primaries he'll be out as a major candidate. i've been wrong before and i've

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>> -- felt all along that we have just cause and legal excuse for such action. we simply decided to say en masse that we were tired of being trampled over with iron feet of oppression. >> the boycott lasted over a year, an ended with the city losing at the supreme court and integrating all its buses. the legacy of the boycott endures to this day but many challenges remain, some old and some new, and as we see that horrific tragedy like the shooting of rah qwan laqwan mcd in chicago, 16 shots and 400 days after the police officer who shot him was charged with

murder. martin luther king iii, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> we've dealt with north charleston to gardner in new york, i mean, doesn't this highlight where we are in this next phase of civil rights, maybe starting with trayvon, where all of us have been involved through 'til now, is this the next phase coming to having to deal with the criminal justice issue? >> well certainly the criminal justice issue is one of the top issues that our nation must addre address, when we look at the number of african-americans and latinos and hispanics who describes the prison population, and the fact that in our communities it's not just policing. that is a significant issue but just as significant is the fact that unfortunately there is community violence.

dad would have characterized it and mom as we're still addressing the issues of the eradication of poverty, racism, mi mil militarism and violence. we have a lot of work to do. i think we learned from what we saw in 1955, the endurance that people had for 381 days people chose not to ride the buses. i remember mom saying on the first day they looked out of the window, they were excited. they had no idea whether the buses would be empty but the resilience that the people had is just phenomenal. >> how important was that? i was privileged to talk to your mother about this many times, the significance of this in launching the national career, if you want to call it a career, or mission of your father? >> it was quite significant.

m.i.a. existed or was created -- >> montgomery improvement association. i don't want people to think you're talking about missing in action. >> absolutely, but it also created a climate so that in 1957, the southern christian leadership conference could be founded which became the organization that worked with other organizations to help us get a civil rights act in 1964 and the voting rights act in 1965 and fair housing legislation in 1968. yes, that was the pivotal point in terms of the leadership. certainly the starting point of leadership of martin luther king jr. >> one of the things that was interesting to me and i tell this to a lot of young activists, other groups and outside groups is that the reason the boycott worked is they were inclusive, they brought in everybody, and they, as you said, your mother talked about how no one got on the bus, the real movements bring in a broad tent, not an exclusionary

tent and your father had to go through a lot of tensions to build even people that were criticized, called them to establishment, call them too radical on the other side but an inclusive movement is the only way you can really make the real change happen. >> you're absolutely right, rev. i think that's what we see. even as it relates to black lives matter, it's not just black young people marching, they're blacks, they're whites, there are others who are marching and it has to be an inclusive movement, if we want to maximize success. we will see, and dad would have called it i guess coalition building, and mom engaged in coalition building, so you had, i mean we always know the union supported the movement. we know the jewish community supported the movement. we know the greek orthodox committee came and supported the movement. we know that catholics supported the movement, over time. it did not start with each of

those groups initially, but over time all of those groups came to the table and america is a better america because women and men and folks from all walks of life came together and that's what we need today, when we talk about the concept of injustice. injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. dad used to say i can't be what i ought to be until you are what you ought to be. our destinies are tied together. >> martin luther king iii, thank you so much for being here with us this sunday before this important anniversary. >> thank you, rev. >> you're watching "politics nation" with al sharpton, only on msnbc. at planters we know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, no matter who shows up. [cricket sound]

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parenthood clinic in colorado is due in court tomorrow, while investigators are still trying to confirm a motive, sources say robert dear said "no more baby parts." after his arrest, he made those statements. he also made comments about the government and about president obama. attorney general loretta lynch called it "a crime against women." the justice department is reviewing whether dear should be charged with a hate crime or with violating a federal law that protection abortion clinics. the survivors were stunned. >> i could see him aiming and i was trying move. it was horrible. i'm angry. you know? i just don't know what would possess somebody to be that pad to other people that he didn't even know. >> and now it's a political issue as well, all three democratic presidential candidates have denounced the

shooting, but most of the republicans have been slow to respond. jeb bush said there was no acceptable explanation for this violence. ted cruz and john kasich called the shootinged "tragic." let's bring back our panel, joy reid, erin mcpike and john nichols. john, what is your take on the response from the republicans? >> it's been deafening. deafening silence, and it is true that ted cruz did tweet something and so has john kasich and credit to them, but it is striking to me that in the immediate aftermath of this shooting, this shooting that took the lives of three people including a police officer, who is a co-pastor of his church, you did not see republican contenders who have been so outspoken, who have always had something to say about planned parenthood and about a host of other issues step up. they did not have to change

their positions. they did not have to say something that would satisfy supporters of abortion rights or reproductive health, but they could have said this is jarring, this is troubling. this is a good point at which to think about how we talk about issues, to think about how we frame these debates and i'll remind you, reverend, we have a great history in this country of candidates being tested in moments like this. you will recall in 1968 just hours, minutes really shortly before martin luther king jr. was shot, bobby kennedy standing in an inner city speaking those beautiful words. i don't expect any candidate to hit that mark, but i do expect that in a moment of national trauma, candidates would speak up and at least try to heal, try to keep people talking. >> you raise an excellent point there, john. joy, i remember all of the furor

when a kid brought a homemade clock to school in texas, and they thought it was a bomb, and it was huge furor, and it was not a bomb. >> right. >> and if you listened to the relative of silence almost especially from the candidates, but on the right in general, on a man that went in a planned parenthood office and kills three people, including a police officer. >> that's right and this is the same right wing that has been sort of baiting the african-american community and claiming the demands for justice and better policing -- >> from the president to me to young activists. >> exactly, they're endangering the lives of police officers. republicans conservatives are in a bind here. they are in this fractiious base for the republican nomination. they're dependent on evangelical

voters listening for any signs of positivecy on the issue of abortion. they're locked in this situation where they can't be too sympathetic. if you were to substitute the shooter, if he were muslim or if he were a max khan national, how different the receipt work would be on the right, right now. you really understand where the republican party and done servive movement is today >> erin that brings us to the fight and analysis between domestic terrorism and islamic terror. for example, the death toll for terror attacks in the united states since september 11th has 48 people killed non-muslim extremism, and jihadist extremism 26 killed. so the non-muds limb extremism has really caused more death, all are who are rifblg, all are wrong. all must be dealt with but it doesn't seem like we're getting the equal kipnd of attention an

outrage from elements of the right. >> that's right, and look, the republicans, all of them were quick to jump on the paris attacks in the aftermath of that to talk about a number of issues related to terrorism on an international level and even marco rubio stoking fear about the fact that it could happen here. i think in this particular case, this may not be about planned parenthood. we could read a lot into the silence from these republican candidates. i think it may be a little bit more about the gun violence in america piece of it, not where the shooting happened but that republican candidates don't have anything good to say, and in fact, politicians of all stripes don't have a great answer about some of these mass shootings on american soil, what they mean, and what to do about them. i think maybe the republican candidates could have done a little bit better to talk about this, condemn the violence that happened. we did see marco rubio tweet

about a political murder in venezuela but he didn't talk about this. i think the larger issue here they don't know what to do about this particular issue. >> but joy isn't it a fact it's a critical issue we're facing. -year-old kid killed in chicago, we saw finally two arrests on that just wednesday. isn't it a fact if you're running for president you need to deal with how you keel with the mass shootings. >> in the case of this person we should be calling a domestic terrorist, it appears there was political motive, something to do with planned parenthood. this person had a background that included domestic violence, it included aggravating stalking, peeping tom charges and he was able to legally obtain a weapon of war. that is an issue and it should be discussed in the presidential campaign. >> thank you and enjoy the rets

of your kay. >> thank you. >> thank you. up next, the new fullment from spike lee that has everybody talking, it's called "shiraq" and addresses one of the biggest problems in america today. spike joins me live here in the studio, next.

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surpassed the death toll of american special forces in iraq. >> welcome to chi-raq. ♪ >> land of pain, misery and strive. >> everyone risks that long dip to the cadaver bag. >> bang, bang. >> make sure these fools put down these guns. heat? people dying every day, fathers try every day ♪ ♪ trying to get my head straight, just the city of chi-raq and get your bed made ♪ >> do you want justice? >> joining me now is the man himself, spike lee. good to see you, spike. >> brooklyn's in the house. >> we should am.

>> the whole satire, though, was built on an old greek and it's funny because you talk about brooklyn, when i was in high school i read the story of "lasastrada." we would brooklynize it "le sister." >> brooklynese. it was written in 411 b.c. by aristophanes. in this play she forms a movement, she's tired of the war and gets women today and saying we're going to withhold sex from

our boyfriends and husbands until men take down their guns. the sex strike took it to the south side of chicago and temporary today where it's off the hook. >> so are people saying that you shouldn't have made it sapphire or there's too much sex in it or suggestions or is it they don't want to teal with -- >> take your pick, rev. this is' many different ways to tell a story, and the co-writer and i felt that the satire used way back in 4 1 b.c. is still the way to tell a story. satire allows you to add humor to it, not comedy but comedy and still deal with a serious subject matter >> i see you back working with samuel jackson. >> yes. >> and -- >> wesley snipes. >> wesley snipes, so you've got

a lot of stars lined up. >> jennifer hudson, david chappell, nick cannon, tianna paris, angela basset, last time worked with moll come x. >> i had a cameo. >> you did. john cusack, so we have a great cast and we got, we're doing this film in chicago, it was really a great shooting. we were in the hood, so but during that time, rev, our first day of shooting, filming was june 1st, last day was july theth. during that time, 331 people were wounded and shot, 65 guys murdered just during the production. >> that's the real issue is that the amount of murders, i took an apartment, we go out there once a month with reverend hatch and deal with it. we saw the arrest of two men

around executing a 9-year-old. the real point is you're using sapphire to bring out the message. >> i think all the other stuff is a distraction. the number one goal, rev, of the film was to save lives. i will go to my grave thinking that we could change the world and that was the goal of this film. we have to save lives, it comes out december 4th and i hope that some of the young brothers see this film and think about what they're doing. >> so it comes out this friday, december 4th. >> that's right, yes. >> you're premiering it tuesday in new york and it's interesting, you say you're not going to have an afterparty, you're going to have me and others march with you against violence. >> we have a march against violence and we should try to tie in montgomery and rosa parks. let's tie that in, rev. >> talking about the montgomery

anniversary the day of the premiere. we also see in chicago on the other side the 13 months it took to charge this police officer in what was blatant. you also deal with the fact we need law enforcement to fight crime but they undercut their speblt when they don't deal with crimes in their own ranks. >> this is what happens when the community sees something like that, they're going to be less apt to come forward and cooperate with the police when they see this stuff, when the guy was shot down like a dog. it's for both sides. >> stay with me. we'll have more with spooik lik after the break. don't go anywhere. we call it sh. during our share the love event, get a new subaru, and we'll donate $250 to those in need. bringing our total donations to over sixty-five million dollars.

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somewhere else. you got an honorary oscar all all of your home boys are right. >> denzel washington, samuel jackson and wesley snipes. >> they were there for the presentation. you used it as an opportunity to address the lack of diversity in hollywood, in true brooklyn style you didn't take the bow and the gracious i thank my mom and dad. you used it to make a statement. tell us about it. >> well, all the people who were there, the powers that be and i made the statement that it's easier for a black person in the united states of america to be president of this country than to be the president of a studio or a network. >> wow. one of the things that -- >> they weren't expecting that. >> we had the controversy with sony pictures and all of that, but no real follow-up, and that certainly is something they don't talk a lot about in this

industry, and you and i about two or three years apart trying to bring on the next generation, me in civil rights, you in art. who do you see in promise in terms of directing and film making to your level? >> well it's not my level. it's i went to see this film "creed" by a great young director ryan kugler, also directed "fruit vale station." a lot of promise for him. fruitville" and "creed" i think made $40 million the first two days, so watch out for him. >> how does that generation behind us deal with opening up hollywood more as you've laid down the gauntlet at the honorary oscars. >> if this was the nfl we'd have the rooney rule. you can't do that. my thing is this, we have people in front of the camera, behind

the camera, but we're not in the room. we don't have a green light vote. that's where they decide what we're making, what we're not and we don't, we're not positioned on -- i don't know of any african-american i mean, to get animation, but where we have a green light vote, we have a vote to say we're making this or not making this. >> hit will me get back to "chi-rac" and we have got to put legs behind the whole move dealing with gun violence and accountability and law enforcement at the same time. >> here's the thing. i know we have to end but why does it have to be one or another? we can have black lives matter and still be self-critical about what's happening. it's not one or the other. >> it is the same thing. >> it is the same thing. >> i have to leave it there. spike lee thank you so much for being here this morning and again, the new film is "chi-rac" it opens this friday.

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