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making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi, and streaming entertainment. that's... seize the journey friendly. ♪ good day to all of you. welcome to "weekends with alex wit." protests in the streets. police hurling tear gas. this just two weeks after a terror attack there paralyzed the city. details behind this ongoing event. the long way home. americans heading back home from the holiday amid heightened security and tension. in politics, donald trump, den carson and chris christie all making headlines. which could be having the best day? the story behind this picture and how two men managed to save what appeared to be a grateful bald eagle.
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we begin with breaking news out of paris. take a listen. pretty dramatic scene just a short time ago where a protest ahead of tomorrow's climate summit turned violent. police released at least ten rounds on marchers and dozens of stun grenade. it came just before president obama left for paris from washington. he's joining leaders for crucial climate talks. this a little more than two weeks after terror attacks rocked france. gabe gutierrez is in france. tell us what's going on there. >> good evening. the situation now appears to be under control. about 100 people were arrested. another 200 or so are now being detained while authorities check their identities. this is the place de le
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republique. now it's a very different scene. riot police are on hand and riot police were deployed for this climate conference at unprecedented levels. the way the situation unfolded this morning was around 9:30. demonstrators in a silent protest left shoes here as a way of silent protest. a little after that, there was a human chain that was started. of course, france is in a state of emergency. public demonstrations are banned. but around 2:15 local time or so, there was an altercation between the demonstrators and police. tear gas was fired. so were stun grenades. about 100 people were arrested. and now the situation appears to be under control. there's still heavy police presence here. security is very tight and the stakes are very high because about 140 heads of state are coming to paris for this massive u.n. climate conference.
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the largest diplomatic gathering here in france since 1948. the situation after a very tense afternoon now appears to be under control. >> have you heard any mention by authorities there that there's concern that potential terrorists could be among those creating the havoc and protesting right now? >> well, right now it's unclear exactly who started these -- the confrontations with police. as i step out of the way and we can still see the heavy police presence here, it was unclear who is behind this. we had a cameraman on the seen who said several dozen people dressed in black showed up and started creating a disturbance. they picked up the shoes that had been left behind and threw it at police. picked up objects and started throwing it at police. the french authorities have said that because of the risk of any potential terrorist threat that the state of emergency is
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imposed. public demonstrations are banned. and over the last few days there have been -- there has been plenty of debate between these demonstrators who said they are giving up their civil liberties in favor of public safety. this was a march actually today expected to draw hundreds of thousands of people before these paris terrorist attacks of two weeks ago. now it was supposed to be a much more muted event but it deteriorated quickly this afternoon when a few dozen demonstrators, according to our cameramen on the scene, a few of those demonstrators got into a confrontation with police and tear gas erupted. >> it should be noted as i hear reported among those 1100 pairs of shoes includes a pair from the pope who is joining in support that way with those marchers and what they'd hoped to do there, protesting the climate talks. later on, a look at what can be accomplished and what some
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realistic goals are. we'll talk about this with an environmental activist heading to that summit. developing news, back here in the states, tens of millions of travelers are taking to the roads and skies on one of the busiest travel days. this as the thanksgiving holiday wraps up. rehema ellis is at laguardia airport in queens. sounds noisy. looks like a lot of people behind you. >> the crowds are starting to grow here at laguardia. what could be a long day for a lot of people expecting a crush of holiday travelers. you'll need suitcases full of patience to get through the nations airports. expect long lines due to tighter security. >> definitely heightened security. there's a bigger presence. >> reporter: and the sheer number of passengers could lengthen the time spent in the terminal. aaa estimates 3.6 million flying this thanksgiving season. >> we got here three hours early to make sure -- we didn't want to miss our flight.
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rather take my time and not stress out. >> reporter: the highways are crowded, too. 42 million on the roads. and drivers got an early holiday gift with gas averaging 2 opini $2.15 a gallon. the lowest holiday price in seven years. for some, ice, flooding and snow made highway traveling treacherous as stormy weather stretched all across the middle of the country. >> certainly if you don't need to travel, stay home. it's only going to get worse as temperatures continue to drop. >> reporter: a lot of people, in fact, millions, don't have that option of staying home. they've got to get back to their real homes after they've been away for the holidays. what they are hoping is they'll meet some better weather in their travels. >> also developing, talking about weather, a slow moving wintry storm system in the
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plains and midwest blamed for at least 14 deaths, including eight in texas and six in kansas. snow, ice and rain are making for very dangerous travel conditions. a 70-year-old woman whose car was swept away by flash flooding on friday in ft. worth is still missing. >> bonnie schneider is joining me with a look at weather headlines. any chance the storm is going to let up any time soon? >> the ice storm warning for parts of kansas continues until 6:00 tonight. not for kansas city. just a cold rain. but we are seeing the ice falling. into manhattan, kansas, we're expecting to see freezing rain continue. on i-70, treacherous travel. cold air plummeting further to the south. cooler in the northeast. mild in the southeast. look at this cold air. we're ripe for snow. that's right. a brand-new winter storm brewing tonight that will take us into monday and tuesday. low pressure develops across the southern rockies. it will work its way to the east. this winter storm will activate
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tonight. expecting winter storm watches that begin this evening. light snow falling and it will turn heavy on monday. very heavy at times, even for minneapolis. we haven't seen a substantial snow for minneapolis in about a year and a half, since april 2014. get ready. snow is coming. we're looking at that. sioux falls as well. pierre. this is the gfs. anticipating 6 to 9 inches. a wet, heavy snow. this computer model goes 48 hours. it's not all happening monday. it's monday into tuesday. another big snowmaker on the way for the upper most and northern plains. >> not what they wanted but all right. thank you, bonnie. also develop, new details emerging from the shooting at a colorado springs planned parenthood clinic, including hints of the alleged gunman's motive. two law enforcement sources saying the respect robber dear said "no more baby parts." they stress his baby parts
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statement was among many things he said and his motive for the attack remains unclear. robert dear is 57 years old. he was most recently living in a trailer in remote hartsel, colorado. dear was born in charleston, south carolina, and has a history of arrests in that state. apparently no convictions. leanne gregg is in colorado springs. what more can you tell us about the suspect and the investigation? >> reporter: as for the investigation, federal investigators from the atf just now arrived a couple minutes ago along with a team from the colorado bureau of investigation. something here has caught their interest. they've blocked off this street and they seem to be focused on that police vehicle that's been parked in that area since the shooting on friday. someone on the scene here did say that this will remain an active crime scene until tuesday morning, but they are looking at areas outside the police
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perimeter. that bank that you were just looking at earlier today, officers were checking the exterior. they said they were looking for bullets and casings that could possibly be evidence. they're also continuing to talk to people who knew the suspect, trying to learn more about his background. as for him, the picture is emerging of a very reclusive man who, as you mentioned, most recently lived in a travel trailer west of town. no electricity. very remote area. his neighbors say he was a mystery. didn't talk to many people. even in a small town, few people knew him. in addition to the no more baby parts comments that he made to police officers after the arrest, they said he had a series of rants he went off on topics against president obama and a number of other topics. again they stress, it's too soon for a motive, but officials from planned parenthood say they believe that he did target their facility because he is opposed
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to abortion. the gunman again is expected to appear tomorrow in court for the very first time. also we may learn the identities of the two other people killed. two civilians. that won't happen until the autopsies are complete. but again we're told it may be tomorrow. >> leanne gregg, thank you, from colorado springs. let's go to politics. at this hour, ben carson is wrapping up his two-day trip to jordan. he met with syrian refugees. it was closed to the press. chuck todd asked him if he regrets comparing syrian refugees to rabid dogs. >> the syrians and the people here completely understood what i was saying. it's only the news media and our country that thinks that's you are calling syrians dogs. they understand here that we're talking about the jihadists, the islamic terrorists. >> meanwhile, donald trump is doubling down on the debunked story he's been repeating that
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muslim americans were celebrating during the 9/11 attack of the world trade center. >> i saw it at the time. i stick by it. hundreds of people have confirmed it. >> this didn't happen in new jersey. there were plenty of reports and you're -- >> i saw it. so many people saw it, chuck. and so why would i take it back? i'm not going to take it back. >> chris christie has picked up a key endorsement from the new hampshire union leader. the publisher says the one reason he may be best suited to best lead is because he tells it like it and isn't shy about it. joining me now, jeremy peters from "the new york times." hi, jeremy. thanks for joining me. >> thank you, alex. >> i want to start by this endorsement from the "union" leader. how significant is it? >> i think last elexs, the election before that it would have been much more significant. thinking about this in the context of the media landscape
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right now, if anything that donald trump's candidacy has shown us, it's that the traditional approach to media is just been up understanded. and i think that while an endorsement of the largest europe in an important state like new hampshire carries a lot of weight. it increasingly, these big endorsements are less relevant. when all you need is a twitter feed and a telephone that you can call in to talk shows and blast out your message, getting the old legacy media behind you is less important. >> let's take a look at ben carson's trip to jordan. take a listen to the conversation he had with one of the refugees. here's that. >> is your family here? >> yes. >> this clinic seems to be very nice.
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>> very nice, but -- >> carson said refugees are looking to the u.s. for more help. but he wants countries in the middle east to take them in. other than to boost his foreign policy creds, what do you think this trip will help him achieve? >> i watched that footage, and i had a hard time figuring out what he might gain from this. especially if you watched him this morning do the sunday show interviews. i don't really think he's acquitting himself the way he needs to. he struggled to answer a question about what it would take to win. he kept asking, ask the generals, ask the generals. what does this mean for him ultimately because i don't know that his supporters ultimately will care. one of the things i pick up when i go on the campaign trail and talk to voters is this willingness to believe that people like carson and trump will surround themselves with experts. when you ask them, does it matter they don't have the experience? well, i believe they'll surround
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themselves with people who do know. and i think that that's a pretty powerful sentiment, and it will help carson get over this. >> okay. let's take what you've just said and coup tele it with this. carson's campaign released an ad about the refugee crisis. let's take a look at that. >> millions of families are fleeing their homes because the obama/clinton tough talk was just empty rhetoric. we need leaders who stop whining and start winning. i'm ben carson, and that's the kind of message i'm responsible for. >> what is the calculation in that camp when it comes to buildinging his foreign policy? >> he clearly saw the damage that was inflicted by the story that my colleague tripp gabriel wrote about his foreign policy advisers being unable to get through to him and ben carson unable to asorb the information they were trying to teach him. he's trying to put a band aid on this. ultimately, will it work? i don't know.
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i think it's hard for candidates like carson and cruz to find a path to the nomination when you have donald trump standing in the way. more than his lack of experience and knowledge on foreign issues, it's going to be donald trump that blocks ben carson. >> speaking of your colleagues, not to put you on the spot with ben carson about his comments about your colleagues, but even bending the truth isn't stopping him. why aren't we hearing more from other republicans calling him out? >> i think for the longest time now, they have just been afraid to go after trump. you've seen more of a reluctance to engage him, certainly jeb has been not shy at all about going after trump. this morning he said that again that donald is not a serious candidate. rubio has gone after him. i think what -- what i'm watching, alex, is the play between cruz and trump. because that has kind of been --
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there's been a detente there for a while. it's been a very quiet uneasy piece. a co-existence, if you will. but as cruz looks at trump and sees his path to the nomination blocked by him, when he takes the gloves off that's going to inject a whole new dynamic. putting in perspective the threat of isis. how much can we really protect soft targets?
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i'm a senior field technician for pg&e here in san jose. pg&e is using new technology to improve our system, replacing pipelines throughout the city of san jose, to provide safe and reliable services. raising a family here in the city of san jose has been a wonderful experience. my oldest son now works for pg&e. when i do get a chance, an opportunity to work with him, it's always a pleasure. i love my job and i care about the work i do. i know how hard our crews work for our customers. i want them to know that they do have a safe and reliable system. together, we're building a better california. what about here in the homeland, chairman. what do we really have to do. you can't protect all the soft targets.
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it's very difficult. the visor waiver countries, we've had in the homeland 18 plots stopped. they're isis related. we've arrested 70 isis followers. we have 1,000 investigations in all 50 states. >> and that was congressman michael mccall, chair of the homeland security committee talking about the fight of isis on the homeland. turkish president erdogan said his government is saddened about shutting down the russian war plane but would not apologize. president putin signed sweeping economic sanctions against turkey. for more on the fallout and implications for the u.s. in the fight against isis, i'm joined by former new mexico governor,
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bill richardson. we've got a bit of a delay. i'm going to call you ambassador for this discussion. i want to talk about what the congressman said there. you heard him tick off those isis threats. on the face of it, it seems ala alarming. what's your reaction? >> well, i don't have access to the intelligence that he has. but i think the homeland security secretary, the president, have basically said, yes, let's be concerned. let's be vigilant, but not dr a dramatizing the threats to the homeland as much. my biggest threat is from affiliate groups in places like libya. isis is clearly getting stronger overseas, and i think the european countries are more vulnerable than we are because we're -- in the united states, we're far off. but we should be vigilant.
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but i don't have access to the intelligence the congressman obviously does. >> were you surprised turkey shot down one of russia's fighter jets, and why do you think turkey did it? would venturing into its air space be just cause? >> well, i know it's fashionable to blame russia and putin for everything. look, he's not been helpful, but i'm also distressed at what turkey did. this altercation could have been avoided. yes, probably there was a violation of the air space but to shoot a russian jet down in these very tense periods should have been avoided. everyone says in the united states and washington, oh, turkey, how important they are. turkey isn't really helping us in the fight against isis. they are not allowing their humanitarian corridors to be open. they go after the kurds that are our main allies in fighting
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isis. erdogan has his own -- the president has his own agenda. he's another putin. they're trying to outmacho each other. clearly the sanctions russia put on turkey is not going to help the situation. we need a coordinated effort. we need russia and turkey helping us with isis. that's probably now fairly distant in happening. >> in the days afterwards, putin hinted this shootdown was more calculated, almost a premeditated event with u.s. knowledge. is that likely or not plausible? >> no, that's not possible. this is putin again goading us. he's probably mad because we immediately put out a statement saying there was a violation
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possibly of turkish air space. i think the pentagon did that and the pentagon was dealing with the data they had. there probably was a violation. but i think putin was angry. he's not happy with us. what putin wants to do is save assad. we don't want to do that in syria. we want assad to step aside, transition government. so we have conflicting goals. but at the same time, a russian jet was shot down over egypt, isis is an enemy of russia. so i think what is needed is some strong diplomacy to bring everybody together. but what turkey did was not helpful. and for us, i think to think that turkey has been an ally in this sefeffort is not the right foreign policy decision. >> can i ask that last question a different way. would turkey have shut down a russian jet without tacit u.s.
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approval? >>. >> no. if you violate somebody's air space, you make the decision on your own. i don't believe the pentagon or the united states would have probably urged caution before he did it. erdogan is a leader who is -- you can't predict what he's going to do. look what he's doing in turkey. suspending a lot of democratic liberties. he's successful there because he has brought a siege effort to protect his election. and he's a skillful guy. but he's got his own agenda. if he were helping us, he'd leave the kurds alone, open humanitarian quarters, consider putting turkish troops right out there, helping us with isis. yes, we share common goals. we both want to get assad out. but he could be a little more
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helpful in this fight with russia right now is just not helping. the allied effort because you have france moving in the right direction. you've got britain moving in the right direction with aerial strikes. it would help if we didn't have all this tension. >> do you envision any scenario in which the u.s. and russia join forces to fight isis? >> it's possible, but very remote. i think this incident with turkey has quelled things for the time being but if there's more terrorism against russia, i think putin is going to see that he needs to change and get assad out of there. this is a way also, if putin helps the alliance, the go coalition that putin can better relations with germany and france, other countries sanctioning russia for what they've done with -- in ukraine
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and other efforts. so i think putin is a chess player. never dismiss what he might do to protect his own interests. >> good advice as always. ambassador bill richardson, thanks so much. next up -- after you save the life of a bald eagle, what do you do? you take a selfie of course. how these brothers managed to free this bird from a trap. ♪ (vo) some call it giving back. we call it share the love.
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given those protests and the recent attacks. what's at stake? the president has been laying the ground work for striking a major climate agreement for quite some time. and you might remember that back in november, the president announced he's opposing the keystone xl pipeline citing environmental concerns and the u.s. increased jobs and gas prices without the pipeline. it's not necessary. administration officials also tell me that decision was in part aimed at sending a message to other countries ahead of this summit, that's the united states is serious about tackling climate change. the president recently announced that the epa will reduce carbon dioxide emissions at power plans by 20% at 2030. that's gotten challenged in court. still the administration secured an agreement with china to cut carbon emissions drastically. it's against all of that backdrop that president obama will try to forge this broader
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international deal. meetings with two leaders of massive polluting nations, china and india, in an effort to get that broad er agreement. joining me, matt cohan. you are traveling to paris for this summit. any guidance you have been given in terms of security? any personal concerns on that? >> we've been tracking it closely. of course, i think there will be more police and so on and more security than otherwise. but i think the french have this well under hand and the site is a little ways away from paris. >> as you are well aware, this is a legacy making climate path the president has here. talk about what you think can be accomplished. in terms of realistic goals. >> i think we come into paris with a great deal of momentum. something we haven't seen in the last couple of years. over 170 countries have put
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forward plans to reduce their pollution. they've put in place a framework to keep driving that momentum forward because we know from the climate science we need to do more. we need to raise our ambition. that's the challenge n test for paris and the opportunity to put that framework in place to build ambition over time. >> i've read in several places that the attacks of a few weeks ago may have brought a more unified spirit, that people want to get things done as if a way to prove we move forward in the face of terrorism. >> if anything, it probably will galvanize that sense that this is a rare opportunity to really move forward on an issue that faces us all and will last for decades and generations. it does add to that sense. >> how do you get other countries on board with u.s. goals. we are talking about a planet we all share. >> u.s. leadership has been critical.
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the president has made this a priority. but it's also becoming a priority for other countries. china has made huge strides largely because they need -- the chinese need to deal with their air pollution problem in their cities and this can be a means of doing that. brazil has made enormous progress protecting their forest. it helps the global climate and something squarely in brazil's own interest. we're seeing leadership around the world. >> at minimum what needs to be accomplished at this conference to get the world on a path that will avoid global warming and the rest of the atrocities that could be coming down the pipe. >> we need to build on the momentum we're seeing already so countries regularly come back to the table to strengthen their ambitions and commitments and do that going forward. second, we need transparency in hour countries measure and report on their emissions and progress toward meeting that commitment so everyone can see what's happening and measure our progress.
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well forgive and forget... kind of. i don't think so! do you like nuts? prosecutors in the case of tamir rice have released what they call enhanced video of the moment the 12-year-old was shot by a cleveland police officer november 2014. the images come from two different surveillance cameras. the prosecutor says the enhancement shows 326 still frames and the timeline of events before and after the shooting. this will be among the items presented to a grand jury in the case of officer timothy loman who shot rice. the preteen was holding what turned out to be an air gun.
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joining me, jim cavanaugh, an nbc analyst. let's go first up to the release of this video. the timing. it comes on a holiday weekend. that is just like the release of the report from the prosecutor office which concluded the shooting was justified. anything behind the timing? >> well, it appears they don't want to answer any questions about it when they release it on a weekend or holiday. they are in the grand jury process. that could be legitimate. releasing grand jury materials is unusual anyway. certainly they are probably doing it on a weekend so they don't have to answer questions about it. >> why are they releasing it if it's that unusual? >> you know, it appears to want to make it look like the child, the 12-year-old boy was going for a gun. but i'm going to tell you, when you really look at this enhanced video and if you go back and look at the raw video of the cleveland police release on the web, every time tamir rice
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handles this he pulls it out and stores in his front waist. every single time. he pulls it out from there and stores it back in there. he never does it in his back. and you can watch it. you can stop it, watch it. when he goes back to sit at the picnic table, both in the enhanced photographs they released and the raw video from cleveland pd, that frame 701, that toy gun is clearly on the picnic table. you can see it on the picnic table from his right hand. when he stands up, it really appears he goes back on his left side waist and stores the gun yet again in his front left side. so when you watch it, and then where it's pointed out that he stands up and ten seconds before the police come and then as the officers, you know, screech up on the snow there, that he's reaching behind him, it sure looks like the gun is not behind
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him, and he may very well be going for his wallet. he's a 13-year-old boy. probably has a school i.d. if you watch the video, he always stores it in his front and at 701 it appears he stored it in his left front side. you can even see in the still pictures what may be the pistol sticking out just ten seconds before as he's standing up. he moves around. his coat comes down. the inference he's going for a pellet gun when he's basically out there playing with snow balls and so forths is the wrong inference. the d.a. should let the rice family's experts testify and give their version. if you want to look at the thing in total, let all those experts testify if the grand jury is going to make a decision. >> the rice family wants to have their own investigators testify as well. the shooting happened a year
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ago. it's still being presented to the grand jury. does it usually take this long? >> you know, i like to say i spent 40 years trying to slow down cops and speed up prosecutors. that's somewhat the nature of the way the criminal justice system works. i think in these police cases, if we don't see action by d.a.s, the communities get upset. look when the officer shot the man in south carolina in the back. it was a cold-blooded murder. run away from the traffic stop. and the police chief and mayor got a warrant and arrested the officer for murder. and it was a horrible case, but they took action. what's happening in so many cases, they drag on. it looks like nobody wants to make a decision or doesn't want to review the evidence. certainly we have to give our d.a.s and prosecutors some amount of time to make a thorough investigation, but when you drag into years and two years, it really is too slow. >> jim cavanaugh, thanks for
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today in the race for the white house, donald trump and ben carson went head-to-head on the syrian refugee crisis. with trump even drawing a comparison to an historic bloodbath. >> we don't know who these people are. they're undocumented totally. no paperwork, and for good reason but there's no paperwork and this is going to be or has the potential to be one big fat trojan horse. we cannot have that. >> meanwhile, ben carson fresh off the meeting with refugees in jordan walked back his now infamous comments comparing syrians to, quote, rabid dogs. >> the syrians and people here completely understood what i was saying. it's only the news media and our country that thinks you're calling syrians dogs.
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they understand here that we're talking about the jihadists, the islamic terrorists. and it's very obvious to most of them. the reception is quite warm. maybe they can teach us a bit how to interpret language. >> i'd like to bring in robert trainham and howard dean. good to see you. governor, i want to start with you first. what do you make of carson's change in tone, and do you think when he was speaking originally that he was speaking to the syrian people when he talked about the mad dogs? wasn't he speaking to the u.s., to his potential constituents? >> i think his tone today was pretty good. and he is clearly trying to walk back intemperate comments which seem to be flying fast and furious on the other side. >> okay. your thoughts on that? do you think he did a good job
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walking things back, robert? >> i think he did. it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. he used a comment of rabid dogs in the context of the syrian refugees. it's good he's going over there to get a unique perspective. clearly his staff has walked him through the intricacies of middle eastern politics and politics of foreign policy and how your words really have a lot of merit. he appeared to be very thoughtful. somewhat substantive. the issue is what is your plan about the syrian refugee crisis, and what are you specifically going to do about it because that is the issue. that's the real question. we're still waiting for that answer not only from donald trump and others but specifically from dr. carson. >> all right. you brought up donald trump. chuck todd also asked him this morning about his recollection of muslims celebrating in new jersey after 9/11. here's what's trump had to say. >> i saw it on television. so did many other people. and many -- >> in jersey city? you saw jersey city --
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>> i also heard -- i've heard jersey city, paterson. it was 14 years ago. but i saw it on television. i saw clips. and so did many other people. and many people saw it in person. i've had hundreds of phone calls to the trump organization saying we saw it. it was dancing in the street. >> how long do you think he can keep this up before he starts drive away voters and hurting other republican candidates. >> if he saw this on television, there's got to be tape. clearly donald trump and others would have seen this. if hundreds have called the trump organization saying i called this, too, where are they? how come we're just hearing about this 14 years ago? this is just outrageous. this is just absolutely unbelievable that someone can say something like this that's so blasphemous and get away with it. it just defies absolute common sense. if this was on television, you being in the news madia there
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would have been producers, other people that would have produced that segment. >> so is donald trump an entity unto himself or is he hurting the republican party? what do you see there? >> i think both. i think he gets away with this because he has a very angry crowd of supporters that will stick with him almost no matter what. i almost say almost because i can't think of what circumstances they'd stick with him. i've been wrong every time. >> along with everybody else. >> i think he is hurting the republican brand. he's the only one that's gotten any serious attention with the possible exception of ben carson. all the others are mentioned by the inside the beltway people but don't seem to have an impact on the race. >> i want to talk about the new hampshire union leader endorsing chris christie for president. does it significantly affect christie's presidential bid? >> generally doesn't matter what the union leader says because everybody knows what's they'll
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say. they are a very conservative paper. in the republican primary it probably does matter. i would be very interested to watch this. he has given the vote errs a bi reason to chachbnge their views. he's done well in his performances. this is a fascinating one for me. they endorse somebody who is 4% or 5% in the polls. i don't know what's going to happen. i'd be interested in hearing what robert says as a gop consultant. >> with the knowledge they endorsed newt gingrich in 2012 and john mccain in '08. you can answer the question there. >> i agree with governor dean. this is a mixed bag. two things governor christie is going to do. he's going to fund-raise off of it and try to do some tv off of it. the union leader is conservative. they've not had an historical good way of predicting the next republican presidential candidates because as you mentioned, gingrich and so forth
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getaway. millions of americans flying home amid a travel alert. and driving hazards. wintry weather is making the road home rough for possibly millions. hey there everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." here's what's happening right now. again this breaking news. this hour in paris at least 100 people have been arrested at protests ahead of tomorrow's climate summit. riot police dispersed that crowd with tear gas and stun grenades. president obama is one of more than 100 world leaders expected at the climate talks which will draw an estimated 40,000 visitors to a city still reeling from the terror attacks just two weeks ago. nbc's gabe gutierrez is there. good evening at the place de lerepublique.
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what does the situation look like on the ground? >> good evening. it's much calmer situation right now than it was earlier this afternoon. but there's still a heavy police presence here. this is the place de le republique, the site of so many tributes after the paris attacks. now it's fills with riot police. about 100 people or so have been arrested. another 200 or so are being detained while authorities check their i.d. you can see a few of them behind me a few minutes ago. a bus filled with some of those that were detained just pulled away. the situation started around 9:15 -- 9:30, i should say, local time. it started very peacefully. climate change activists had laid shoes here at the place de le republique as a form of silent protest. france is under a state of emergency so large public gatherings are banned. they came and laid shoes here as a way of protesting.
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the situation began to deteriorate around 2:15 local time when several dozen started to get into a confrontation with police. tear gas was thrown by some of the officers, by the riot police as well as stun grenades. that's when people started being arrested. t the tense situation lasted several hours. riot police and the officers have things under control. this is a very high stakes situation for france. more than 140 heads of state are expected here this week for the cop21 conference. the massive u.n. climate summit that is expected to draw tens of thousands of visitors and is the largest diplomatic gathering here since 1948. >> so gabe, given what you've seen there, have you heard of any changes in the security plan ahead of this big conference? >> the interior minister is supposed to hold a news conference very shortly to discuss what, if any, security measures will be taken.
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france was expecting a very large -- rather, they had been expecting a large situation here because climate activists, every year, they had planned to have several hundred thousand people here in france for this climate summit. the paris attacks changed all of that because of the state of emergency. again those large public demonstrations were banned. so there were people here that brought the shoes here this morning. some, a few, were upset they were not allowed to protest and they felt their free speech rights were being trampled on. however, others felt that we spoke with here today, felt that public safety came first. so they understood why the government was doing this. the government is stressing a state of emergency is necessary to protect the public after those devastating attacks. >> gabe gutierrez, thanks so much from paris. let's go to another developing story. today marks one of the busiest travel days of the year. if you are flying or drive, then
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you are among tens of millions of americans heading home after thanksgiving. rehema elslis is at laguardia i queens. let's talk about security and what it looks like for people trying to get through to their gates. >> one thing people see is the national guard who are patrolling the hallways, the corridors here at the airport. people i talked to tell me instead of feeling uncomfortable by the presence of the national guard it makes them feel a lot more comfortable. passengers are starting to line up here. 47 million people who are expected to be traveling for this holiday weekend. 3.6 million of those are traveling by air. they are flyers. we talked with some of them to find out what's it been luke for them traveling this holiday season. just listen. >> it was stressful today, this morning because i have my kids and a baby. it's pretty stressful. i'm good now because everything
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is done and we're just going to sit on the plane and relax. >> we got here three hours early to make sure we don't miss our flight. i'd rather take my time and not stress out. >> the majority of people are on the roads. about 42 million of them. that's where the lion's share of traveling is going on. some of those are in parts of the country that experienced bad weather. according to the weather channel, they told me that may be the more difficult part of traveling today is on the roads. for those people who are flying, their difficult part may be traveling on those roads to get to the airport and take off. what we're seeing here at laguardia is all flights so far on on time leaving and arriving. >> that's unusual. especially on such a busy travel day. well, good. rehema ellis at laguardia. another developing story, the slow-moving wintry storm system in the plains and midwest. that's being blamed for at least 14 deaths, including eight in texas and six in kansas.
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snow, ice and rain are making for very dangerous travel conditions. meteorologist bonnie schneider is joining us with a look at the weather headlines. where is the storm now and where is it heading. >> it's driving that's going to be treacherous throughout the day today. right now heavy rain in dallas working its way through texarkana and into little rock. behind it is ice. nothing worse than driving in ice, if anyone has experienced it. it's not over yet. still batches of ice through parts of kansas. that's why we're still looking at wintry weather with ice storm warning. it looks like that one just expired. the winter storm warning continues for marion n hutchinson andy y iselina, kan. low pressure system starts to work out of the east. winter storm watches begin this evening. we're also looking at light snow falling in the overnight period. by monday, heavy at times into omaha, northern nebraska. watch the storm spread out and
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intensify. one to two inches per hour. the winds pick up as well. poor visibility. minneapolis,io haven't seen six inches or more since april 2014. now issi your chance. we're looking at snowfall totals that may exceed that in parts of minnesota and into nebraska and iowa. this is a pretty big storm developing. some spots could get up to a foot of snow. >> i guess that's good if you are a skier. otherwise, not so much. bonnie, thank you. new details from that shooting at a colorado springs planned parenthood clinic, including pie ining hints of th gunman's motives. suspect robert dear says in a statement, quote, no more baby parts. this in reference to planned parenthood. those sources stress dear's baby part statement was among many things the suspect said and his motive is still unclear. leanne gregg is in colorado springs for us today. what more can you tell us about the suspect and an update on the
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investigation. >> it's been an active crime scene this morning. members of the colorado bureau of investigation are here with federal investigators from the atf. they just, within the last hour, blocked off this area. they are focusing on a vehicle parked there since the shooting on friday. they are also canvassing the area looking for bullets and casing. part of the massive job of processing all the evidence in this case. this would remain a crime scene until tuesday morning. the suspect will make his first court appearance on monday. also tomorrow is the earliest we may learn the identities of the two civilians killed friday in the shootings after the autopsy head been completed. a picture of the suspect is emerging of an extremely reclusive man. the kind of person that even in a small town where everybody knows everyone, people say they don't know him. here's what a tavern owner had to say about him. >> personally, we did not know him. we've seen him in town.
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he's driven around. goes to the post office. he's been in here a couple of times. just a nice, quiet man. >> a quiet man who some people also describe as extremely mysterious. his criminal records includes an arrest for domestic violence, along with for being a peeping tom. meanwhile, across the city on this first sunday since the attack, congregations and churches are offering prayers to the victims and their families, including at the church where officer garrett swayze who was killed on friday, the police officer. he was a co-pastor at that church. >> i want to confirm, we have yet to get the identity of the two civilians killed? >> that's right. that possibly will come on monday. that won't happen at least until the autopsies have been completed. >> okay. leanne gregg in colorado springs, thank you. we want to recap our top story about the thousands of climate change protesters in
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paris defying france's ban on demonstrations. police firing tear gas to disperse them earlier today. the paris police chief says about 100 protesters have been detained. president obama is on his way to paris to attend that global climate summit with about 120 other world wells eleaders. the president left a very rainy washington. we'll take you back to paris to talk to someone who got caught up in those protests. at this hour, ben carson is wrapping up his two-day trip to jordan. he met to meet with syrian refugees. it was closed to the press. this morning, chuck todd asked him if he regretss comparing syrian refugees to rabid dogs. >> the syrians and the people here completely understood what i was saying. it's only the news media in our country that thinks that you are calling syrians dogs. they understand here that we're talking about the jihadists, the islamic terrorists.
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>> meanwhile, donald trump doubling down on the debunked story he's been repeating that muslim americans were celebra celebrating during the 9/11 attack at the world trade center. >> i saw it at the time. i stick by it. hundreds of people have confirmed it. >> this didn't happen in new jersey. there were plenty of reports and you are feeding a stereotype -- >> i saw it. so many people saw it, chuck. why would i take it back? i'm not going to take it back. >> a big endorsement from the chris christie from the "new hampshire union leader." the one reason he may be best suited to lead during these times is because he tells it like it is and isn't shy about it. in just a moment, the potential fallout following the shootdown of that russian war plane. what impact will it have on the fight against isis? a former u.s. ambassador to russia joins me next. them. i know. it's so frustrating. they'd be a lot happier with the capital one venture card.
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tensions between russia and turkey over the downing of a war plane tuesday are having repercussions that could affect the fight against isis. turkey claims it flew into its air space. russia says the plane was shot down without warning. earlier today the body of the russian pilot was taken to the turkish capital and will be returned to russia. former u.s. defense secretary robert gates believe the two nations may have a hard time moving past the issue. >> i think the russians were embarrassed, frankly, by their plane getting shot down. it's been a long time since a russian fighter combat aircraft was shot down. i think it is going to complicate coordination in syria. maybe it will accelerate it. who knows. but i do worry the overall relationship between russia and turkey has turned so sour. >> let's bring in michael mcfall, former u.s. ambassador to russia and msnbc contributor.
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thank you for joining me on this sunday. i'm curious what you think about secretary gates' comments. the fact that president putin may be embarrassed. certainly not a man who welcomes being embarrassed or any appearance of weakness. >> i agree with secretary gates. his analysis was right. this is not going to be just some minor conflict between russia and turkey. president putin has said repeatedly now on russian television that there will be consequences for turkey. he's already announced economic sanctions against turkey. starting january 1st. turks will be required to get visas now to go to russia. they put a lot of pressure on russian companies to cancel tourist packages to turkey. turkey and egypt are the two places russians go mostly especially over the new year's holidays to seek sun. that's all done now. and i think it will be a long time before they come back together. >> that certainly could hit turkey very hard financially. the russians are the second
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largest nationality that goes to turkey on vacation. right behind the germans. what about a role the u.s. should be playing in this dispute? what do you see that as being? >> well, basically, i think president obama in his press conference earlier when president hollande was in town struck the right cord. supporting our nato ally. turkey having the right to self-defense and to protect their borders. but also saying we need to de-escalate. this is a tragedy and we need to move to our common interest. that's the rhetoric. to make that a plan is going to be much harder because at the end of the day, putin supports assad and turkey wants assad to go in syria. as a result of that major disagreement in terms of strategy, it's going to be hard for them to cooperate on one side in the fight against isis. >> but what do you think is mr. putin's end game here?
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what do the russians really want from turkey? >> they believe that turkey is helping isis. this is a new development. they've always thought that. they've always portrayed it that way in the press. now president putin himself and many senior officials have said this. they believe in the fight against assad, turkey is willing to have all kinds of allies to overthrow him. and, therefore, now putin is pushing back hard to say let's all fight isis, even though russia itself hasn't done much to fight isis itself. what he's really saying is let -- in order to do that, we need to support the syrian president, mr. assad. and now he's saying that more forcefully than ever before. >> "the washington post" is reporting the kremlin is playing down the possibility of a grand coalition with the west. how badly does the u.s. and its allies need russia in their attempts to defeat isis? >> the allies in the united
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states being the leader of that alliance needs russia not to fight isis but to put pressure on the assad regime to forge some kind of coalition government. the administration believes, and i believe they are correct in this that without some kind of new government, not regime change, but new government, elements of the assad regime, elements of the moderate opposition, you'll never have people in place to fight isis. remember everyone says boots on the ground to fight isis. where are those boots going to come from if not from a new coalition government in syria to go fight isis. again, russia is not really fighting isis. president osaud is really not fighting isis right now. the real fight is between assad and the moderate opposition. we need the russians to change their strategy, put some pressure on assad, perhaps even eventually for him to step down, and that new coalition government would be the one that would most effectively fight the
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islamic state. >> so if president bashar al assad is the main stakie i stic point, do you see room for negotiation here? >> you know, i participated in the first two rounds when i was still in the government, geneva one and geneva two. we failed. i support secretary kerry's effort to try again because of just the basic analysis that without a new government, you are never going to have a coalition to fight isis on the ground. i can't predict whether it's going to be successful or not. i wish them well, and i hope that president putin will eventually understand that the west and the united states in particular is not for regime change, but they are for a new government that has more legitimacy inside syria. and their analysis, and i think it's correct, is only that government can be legitimate if assad steps down. >> do you think isis can ever be
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defeated with assad remaining in power? >> no. he is their greatest motivation, right? remember he's the guy killing innocent sunnis. that shows up on all the social media websites of isis. that motivates jihadists from around the world to come fight in syria. as long as he is there, he's the perfect propaganda weapon if you will, or tool or messaging for isis. and that relationship needs to be understood. there's no defeating isis without a new government in syria. >> all right. ambassador michael mcfaul, thanks so much. you spent two years in moscow representing the u.s. in all of its dealings with the putin government. thanks forri your insights. passengers descending on airports on what is one of the busiest days of the year. they are facing extra security measures given the worldwide travel alert. at this time, the weather
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getting that number? any validity to it? >> i think that's standard trump hyperbole. hillary clinton and some of the other democratic candidates have said accepting up to 65,000. the 200,000 number is not one we've heard from any policymaker at this point. >> ben carson's trip. his campaign came out with an ad blaming the obama administration for the refugee crisis. what is the calculation in the carson camp when it comes to building his foreign policy credentials? >> well, this is something that republican candidates tend to do every cycle. republican candidates especially who have not, say, served in the senate and taken many trips will go on some of these fact-finding missions. mitt romney did it as a candidate. many of them go just to london or poland. sometimes to jerusalem. so you do have to give the carson campaign a little bit of credit for sending him into the middle east and to visiting some
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of these refugee camps. they do this to make these candidates look more serious. in the case of ben carson, perhaps it is a little bit too late. but at least they are trying. and he did make a couple of interesting policy points this morning. he said after visiting these camps that the u.s. just accepting 10,000 refugees is a band-aid. not really a well rounded policy to fix the problem. and that is a smarter point than some of the alarmist language we're hearing from other republicans and that up to this point we've heard from him. >> let's go to donald trump's insistence now that he was not mocking a "new york times" reporter. how convincing or not convincing has his case been that he wasn't mocking? >> i don't know that's something we can actually evaluate. certainly there are people who will find it not convincing at all but many of his supporters will find it very convincing. the larger point here is the republican electorate and especially the base and
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especially trump's supporters will believe it is what it is that he says. and that republican base does not trust the mainstream media at all, and they'll stick with donald trump through this. >> so what are you hearing from people in the republican party and why aren't leaders like reince priebus and others coming out to condemn these comments? >> i can't speak for reince priebus and why republican leaders won't condemn the comments. what we've seen by and large is that when republicans attack donald trump, he attacks back and it hurts. and at this point we hear from a number of republicans that attacking donald trump doesn't do anything to take the steam out of his candidacy. that once he is attacked by someone in the establishment, he only gets stronger. and i hear anecdotally more and more republicans take donald trump very seriously and they are thinking he is becoming a better, stronger candidate. >> okay. let's go to chris christie.
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he's going to be in new hampshire tomorrow for a big town hall. just a day after picking up this key endorsement from the "union leader." the publisher was on "meet the press" to explain their decision. >> jeff bub doesn't look like he wants it and the public senses it. so i'm looking for somebody that can get the nomination. i don't think either bush or kasich can do so. if there's an insider who san outsi is an outsider, it's chris christie. he's a jersey guy who shoots from the lip but knows what's he's talking about. i think people are going to buy that. >> how significant is the new hampshire union leader's endorsement of chris christie? the last go around in '12 they endorsed newt gingrich and previously in '08, john mccain. >> that's right. in the past it's been significant with varying degrees of success. at this pont for chris christie, in new hampshire, there has been a drum beat, albeit soft, very
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soft, that support is starting to come his way a little bit. but for him to really win the new hampshire primary, a lot of things have to happen. he has to take all of jeb bush's support, such as it is, as well as john kasich's. on top of that, it's marco rubio right now who is polling at about second place, far behind donald trump but he's getting between 10% and 13% of the republican vote in new hampshire. and the establishment is starting to go his way in a more national way, at least in washington. we're seeing that from a lot of republican strategists. they think that marco rubio will be the candidate of the establishment. christie has to surpass bush, kasich and rubio for a chance at taking on donald trump in new hampshire. is it possible? sure. doesn't look like we'll see a mccain-style comeback just yet. it could be a step in the right direction but won't seal the
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." riot police using tear gas and stun grenades to break up a citywide protest ahead of tomorrow's climate summit. at least 100 people have been arrested. "time" magazine's vivian walt was there to witness the chaos and joins me from paris. tell us what you saw. >> when i got there about 11:00 in the morning, and there were at least as many people still at the vigil for people kills in
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the paurs attacks as there were people protesting climate. so what began as a collection of shoes, a symbol ic march. very, very peaceful, silent, dignified. it was around 12:30 or 1:00 that things started to turn nasty. and you had hundreds of riot police marching down two of the main boulevards that converge on place de le republique following them. and they were clearly going to stop what was happening. they had very thick shields to stop rocks, teargas canisters at the ready. many with their hands on the actual operating system of the teargas canisters. and it was clear they had orders to clear the square.
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why this was so, in my mind, a little confusing since it doesn't seem to me that the crowd posed any kind of threat whatsoever. things did get a little -- but there's mostly a festive atmosphere and an atmosphere almost of the city somewhat returning to normal. >> do you think that the police there and those that responded, they've been charged to be overly cautious? have you heard concerns from officials that they could be within these protesters, there could be other terrorists? is that something they're worried about? >> well, obviously, intense worry about that. 30,000 people converging in paris this week for the climate conference. among them something like 150 heads of state, if you can imagine the tensions around
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trying to secure them just two weeks after the attacks. the police are very understandably nervous about this. however, you have had tonight on television the president come out. the mayor of paris. the prime minister. all of them have been on tv the last couple of hours say this was the hard core violent demonstrators who stirred up trouble and caused all the problems. i have to say from my eye in the square, it didn't seem to be that way. it did seem there were a hard core of people that seemed to get arrested and were sitting down on the ground and refusing to move until they were dragged away. it didn't seem like anyone was violent or in a violent mood. >> time magazine's vivian walt, thank you so much from paris. while that situation calms
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down in paris, the president is headed there right now to attend that climate summit. kristen welker is joining me from the white house. what all is at stake here? >> a lot is at stake. the president has been laying the groundwork to try to strike a major international climate agreement for quite some time. it was very recent back in november the president announced he opposes the keystone pipeline. he cited environmental concerns. also the u.s. has increased jobs and lower eed gas prices withou the pipeline. some officials telling me the decision was aimed at sending a stronger message to other nations ahead of the summit that the u.s. is serious about tackling climate change. the other big move, the president announced the epa will aim to reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 2013. that's getting a lot of legal challenges but still that's the plan moving forward. one more point, the
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administration secured an agreement with china to cut carbon emissions drastically. that's the backdrop he's going to try to get this broader international deal. he'll have one on ones with leaders of china and india. they are major polluters. one interesting note, there might be more leaders who decide to attend the paris summit in the wake of the paris attacks. so the question is, will he wind up getting a broader deal than initially anticipated. 147 leaders expected to attend. >> kristen welker at the white house, thank you. let's bring in gordon chain. almostist of the coming collapse of china. you wrote about this summit in your column. the u.s. being the second largest climate polluter. you say there's a new and crucial disagreement between the two nations. what is that? >> this is really interesting. it's no longer about the united
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states trying to get china to agree to a carbon cap because as kristen welker just said, they did that last november. the disagreement is whether the deal is going to be binding. and the shoe is on the other foot because the chinese want a legally enforceable deal, and president obama doesn't. the president doesn't want one because he doesn't think he can get ratification in the senate. the chinese right now are furious with the united states because we have not paid the $3 billion into the global climate fund the president committed because he can't get that through congress either. >> the president has pledged the u.s. will cut its overall emissions to 28% by 2025. is that realistic or do the political problems you were just articulating, do they stand in the way? >> i think it's possible. there are a number much changes in the chinese economy. one is the move to services.
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and also more renewables. that's a long time. i think it's possible. china has also got a carbon cap they'll agree to. probably their carbon will not peak in 2030. it very well may peek this year. >> in your column today you said that india may be the one to block a climate deal from happening. how so? >> because we always focus on china but as i mentioned, china's economy is in real trouble. especially its manufacturing sector. india is in a much earlier stage of its takeoff. they really want to have more ability to put carbon into the air because their economy is going to do very well. it's probably growing something around 7% right now. and it's probably even going to get stronger than that. the indians, i think, are going to be the main blockage in paris for a climate deal, not the chinese, as has been the case for the last four or five years. >> certainly back in copen
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haguen in '09. there's a big divide on who should shoulder the burden. is it the developed or developing nations? >> this goes back to the rio earth summit. really it shows up in two places. first of all in setting the carbon caps nation by nation as we've talked about, but also the financial commitments of affluent countries to help emerging ones meet their carbon responsibilities. and so this is something that, you know, they say climate negotiators try to paper this over with this phrase common but differentiated responsibilities. but that phrase hasn't helped things for 25 years. >> okay. gordon chang, forbes columnist, thanks so much. we're waiting for the latest word from colorado springs on the shootings at that planned parenthood clinic. the identities of the two civilian victims is still
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the chicago tribune reporting the district manager for the burger king thinks that police erased more than an hour of surveillance video. and that would have captured the moments both before and after the shooting of laquan mcdonald who was shot by officer van dyke. what is your reaction to this, especially this issue of transparency or lack thereof? >> i've talked to a lot of police officers and union leaders. we hear from protesters they don't trust the police sometimes. i've talked to law enforcement agencies who are also saying and people in that community saying we don't like the way this looks and we don't like when police officers n police departments aren't as transparent as they need to be. that makes the whole community look bad. this burger king manager is now saying the police came in and took some video from the store that may have captured this really important shooting that we took even a year to see on video is disheartening. the state's attorney and the mayor of chicago has both said
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and police superintendent have all said that didn't happen. there was forensic testing and there was no video deleted. this burger king manager is saying now that the fbi and federal government have taken the video and they're going to do their own testing. most of these cases with ferguson and other cases, there's parallel investigations. the federal government is looking. it's really -- we're going to see what happens, but it's very concerning this burger king manager is not changing his story. >> he is not, indeed. >> let's talk about the arrest and shooting death of tishawn lee. just a horrible, horrible story. i spoke with a chicago reporter who said the threat the superintendent said in a news conference that they'll get these gangs and keep them from ever being able to lift their heads up again. he says it's all bluster. is it naive to think that the execution of a 9-year-old little boy couldn't galvanize the city to do something in a more
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strident way with their gangs? >> it's not naive but the fact chicago has been dealing with violence for years and years an that chicago has been dealing with violence for years and years. maybe the face of a 9-year-old will be the thing that changes it. people also say while we say this is a gang shooting, this is a 9-year-old who was targeted because his dad was in a gang. it's not even a gang member between gang members. this is now the outer community who has nothing to do with gangs. maybe that will lead to some change and this idea you have this little boy who can't really even say -- he can't be mistaken for an adult. some of the arguments we've had go back and forth is how adult-like is this person? maybe they had some gang afill yath yations they didn't know about. we're talking about a young child that no one can argue was anything but innocent. >> let's goat et to cleveland a the tamir rice. the family asking they be
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allowed to use their own use of force experts, have them testify before the grand jury. it comes at a time when prosecutors have released the frame by frame video of the shooting. how might that enhance the investigation? >> it's hard to say. if you're an expert on use of force and the family is going to be hiring this person, obviously he's still going to have to do his job. we saw this independent with family hiring independent experts with the michael brown case. the idea that they had their own autopsy that really revealed and shadowed what the state had already found. so i think that the family just wants to have a say in this grand jury because for years now we've been talking about grand juries and the idea they're all shrouded in mystery, no one knows what happens. people you hardly know who testified or what happens there. so i think this family is just trying their best to get their hands in this grand jury and say, look, this was our son and we really want this to go in a way that's fair and just. so i think that's what we're seeing. i don't know if their expert is going to say anything that much different from a use of force expert hired by the prosecutor because obviously the prosecutor is still -- he's pursuing this.
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