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son. former treasury official steve ratner with us and in washington columnist and associate editor for the washington post david. joe's on the way. the hunt for answers in the chaotic massacre in san bernardino continues this morning. the fbi is taking over the investigation to the exact motive of the killers while evidence points to religion and extremism and potential anger at the co-workers. yet many signs point to the radicalization of american born 28-year-old syed rizwan farook. this as police release photographs from the shoot out. pakistani born malik who

immigrated to the u.s. from saudi arabia on a k-1 fianc fiance visa. the couple fired many rounds and were prepared to fire many more. in total. the pair carried 1,600 bullets into the gun battle with two handguns and two legally purchased assault style rifles. malik appeared to be modified. police returned fire shooting 380 rounds in the gun battle at and around the black suv they rented three or four days before the slayings. >> joining us now from capitol hill, retired director of the fbi, sean henry. we have a lot of questions here. let me start with one that strikes me as you look at the

arsenal in their vehicle but at home. does it seem they had more planned than what they carried out that day? >> i don't think any investigator anywhere can look at what they had in their apartment and vehicle, those number of rounds and high capacity weapons and explosive devices and say anything other than that. they had enough to really for multiple attacks in multiple places. this is something the fbi is looking at as a terrorist event. i know they have not apparently made direct correlation to jihadi radicalization. they're looking at right now based on the event we saw as well as all the evidence they've collected up to this point, willie. >> law enforcement has been careful up to this point to not call this a terrorist event. they said it may be. they're looking into it. at one point in their eyes does this become a terrorist event? what are they looking at specifically? >> it comes down to motivation

and they're looking for direct correlation to either somebody directing them from international, syria, pakistan, middle east. some direct connection whether it be given guidance and plans or they're looking for them being radicalized here domestically had they been online and how did they get the plans to build the bombs they built and is there some direct connection through social media again where somebody in contact with them providing them with guidance and clear direction. until they find that, they're not going to say this is specifically terrorism although signs point to that. >> makes sense. the question of whether wednesday's shooting was an act of terrorism has become much of a political question as much as

a legal matter. they are still pinpointing the cause. hillary clinton went farther than president obama in assessing what was behind the massacre. >> we don't know why they did it. we don't know at this point the extent of their plans. we do not know their motivations. it is possible that this was terrorist related but we don't know. it's also possible that this was workplace related. >> but it's becoming clearer that we are dealing with an act of terrorism. something that included bombs, luckily one that didn't go off but pipe bombs found through a search of their homes, lots of weapons and just a deliberate hateful murder of all those innocent people. >> i would like to blame all of

this on barack obama but we have had republicans who are come lis nt in this as well. from the time i began to watch the events unfold last night, i am convinced that was a terrorist attack. the president continues to ring his hands and say we'll see. let's remember something everybody. if a sector for the developme developmentally disabled can be a target for a terrorist attack then every place in america is a target for a terrorist attack. >> daiftd, let's start with you and take it to the table. first of all, the politics of terrorism, what i saw in hillary clinton's response is a very -- response to a horrific event.

it's kind of hard not to make some sort of connection to terrorism or inspired by. >> why would they attacked a social services center? it's a strange target. the washington post has a fascinating story in which the male shooter sits down next to one of his colleagues and says as he said at so many of these meetings in the past, ready to be born. no sign of an angry man in that account. i think the question that the fbi is investigating, we do need to hold off on for a little bit, is how are these people brought to this moment of mayhem?

what was their training instruction? to what extent are they linked with either through virtual means online chat forums or people they may have contacted elsewhere to a network that's directing violence or is it connected to a wider plot and group? those are questions worth holding off on. >> it's a weird attack. attack your workplace at a christmas party. limited number of people. you could gone through all those bombs although they don't seem

to be very well made bombs. they didn't go off but all that am in addition, they could have gone to places where they would have found a lot more people and done a lot more harm. so it wasn't the sort of splashy, isis style terrorist attack in a classic sense, i think. it was very weird. everything everyone reported so far is nothing but surprise. the extent of these radical contacts that he had or described at least in the profiles i read this morning as pretty potential. you like somebody's facebook page, it's very weird. >> look, i agree with all that. also, i think we heard they had so much more armorment they could have went on and conducted

other terrorist events. the new york times, just the levels that have a helpful and clear definition of terrorism says terrorism has traditionally been distinguished from other mass killings. federal law defines terrorism as dangerous acts intended to influence a government policy or effect government conduct. >> much more damage from the video we're showing you. >> this couple we're talking about responsible for the death of 14 people, injurying 21 others. they were careful not to raise suspicious to anyone around

them. >> three officers showed up at his home. >> opened the door and a gun pointed right at my face with a flashlight. what did i do to deserve a gun to be pointed at me right at my door? >> all three of men are shocked by the news. >> he was an american citizen, living the american dream and had everything he could have. >> farook graduated college and worked as a health inspector and made more than $70,000 a year certifying restaurants. when he was looking for a wife on dating sites, he was descr e described as calm, cool and thoughtful and liked to hang out in his backyard and shoot target practice with friends and looked

for a girl who enjoyed the same things. he found her. malik, a pakistani. >> you imagine to say i got married in the hollyiest place of islam. >> he helped his wife get a visa to the u.s. when she got pregnant she registered at target. mi behind the seeming normalcy they were becoming radicalized. hours after the shooting the mosque became a target for anti muslim. >> look what came out of it. we're fearing for the lives and the muslim community. >> obviously, a horrific impact on the muslim community.

that's an important angle of the story. david, i would like to push this a little bit. what's the impulse for the president not to make a cleaner tie? i think if you're inspired by isis you want to make it as shocking and out of the blue as possible. all the signs we're hearing so far and radicalization and his wife, they're pointing to terrorism. why can't we say that? >> i think you have to wait. we've learned from past experience if you get too far out in front of this it can backfire on you. >> okay. david, chime in on this. especially on the president's careful, careful, careful language. >> i think that steven's right.

you see the dangers of premature statements and the people reactions of the three people in the mosque where he prayed. they are feeling very defensive. in any investigation, it's appropriate for your viewers to understand what young muslims are seeing every day in online media. they're seeing horrific images of violence against muslims and seeing desperate appeals to people to take action. if you can't come to the -- do something at home. when are you brothers and

sisters? you got to see the environment online these people are living in. >> let's go to the scene now. carry live in san bernardino for us. what more can you tell us? >> let's pick up a little bit on the discussion of his attendance on the mosque. we heard for the last two years he had been going there to the point he memorized the koran. in the last three weeks he started showing up. they didn't know where he was and why. that's something the fbi will be looking at to see if there were some sort of event that happened

that caused him to stop attending as maybe the process of a plan was underway. i'm standing right here in front of the apartment that they both rented. it's unclear to the fbi whether they lived here or used this as a bomb making factory. in the garage area and home they found 12 pipe bombs and quiet a number of pieces of equipment to build more bombs. like it's a bomb making factory here and they found more than 4,500 rounds. all as if they were going towards a war which clearly they executed to some extent with such a horrific death toll. 14 killed and 21 injured. right now, the real question remains why. the fbi came here and among the items that came out, what they call digital media to try to understand there was something there that the forensic officers, technicians pull out to see if there's radicalizat n

radicalization. there are reports some of the hard drives and cell phones were smashed. while that will be taken to the location for the fbi, it's not as if they can work a miracle and immediately pull it, up. meantime, lester holt spoke to farook's brother-in-law and this is what they had to say. >> and what's the out come? you left your six month old daughter in this life. some people cannot have kids. god give you a gift of a daughter and you left that kid behind. what did you achieve? i don't know what message they left. >> are you angry at your brother-in-law for doing this? >> yeah, absolutely. very upset and angry. >> and for leaving his daughter. >> yeah. it hits me every few hours that,

it makes me angry what he did. >> to recap that portion of the story, they did have a six month old daughter and that daughter they left with his grandmother and suggested they were going to the doctor's office and whether she would baby silt the child errand that's when they left armed up and executed a plan still asking the question why. guys, back to you. >> amazing. carrie sanders, thank you very much. the psychology of someone leaving a child at six months old. >> it's unfathomable. we're all focussing on him. i want to know more about her as well and the question of whether this was where radicalization came in. who knows. there are reports in the profiles i read this morning that he didn't really have a workplace problem. he seemed to get along with everybody and everybody at work

didn't sound like it ever rose to the level of a heated conversation. as you look at the profile and put the pieces together of who farook was and what did we know about him so far and what do we know about his wife, how do we begin to look at this now? what's your take on it now sitting here a couple of days later? >> i do think that the wife is a key piece here and a piece that we've touched on a little bit. not gone into detail on is the international connection. trips to saudi arabia and trips to pakistan. people that may have been associated with them there. the fbis interaction with the

saudi intelligence service with the paki intelligence service looking for a broader connectivity there. i think that's a key piece here, particularly if we're looking at this whole terrorism side, this angle. >> thank you, sean. still ahead on morning joe, much more live coverage from the scene of the shooting in san bernardi bernardino. also, senator chris murphy whose legislation to strengthen gun laws came up short in the senate yesterday and chuck todd on how the massacre is already impacting the presidential race but first, did you guys see

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renegotiate. i would say about 99.9. is there anybody who doesn't renegotiate deals in this room? i want to read it. perhaps more than any room i've ever spoken. you're not going to support me even though i'm the best thing that could happen to israel and i'll be there. i know you're not going to support me because i don't want your money. >> woe. >> yikes. >> first of all, the first two needed to be separated from the third sound bite which stands alone. that's a whole conversation in itself. the first two. >> what are the odds jim gilmore stumbled upon this the night before. >> and watched the whole thing. >> i love kasich but he can do better than that.

joining us from washington, casey hunt. also with us kristin anderson. good to have you both. they traded subtle jabs at yesterday's event. what did they have to say to each other? >> i have to say being in that room yesterday, they were definitely extraordinary uncomfortable moments. they don't totally know how to react. we didn't have them in cruz's speech. there's been a lot of reporting about the fact that cruz and rubio seem to be competing at this point. the reporting says that his wife is on the fence. she might be more inclined to support cruz.

i think you saw some divides. you've been seeing divides open between them. rubio has gone after cruz related to the meta data program. cruz has set out idea logical differences. you could hear that in their speeches yesterday. >> in choosing a president, we need to look at what candidates do. not just what they say. just a few short years ago many in my own party were trying to derail the post war consensus. they will never call themselves isolationist. that's exactly what they are. i believe those who speak about their proisrael views but carelessly support a gutting of the international affairs budget or who vote against legislation funding the programs. i believe they need to check their priorities. >> part of defeating our enemies is understanding who they are.

that means not going down the misguide foreign policy. barack obama, hillary clen ton and unfortunately, too many in this town. the consequence, libya has been handled over the radical islamic terrorist fighting in a war zone. now we see the support of politicians in both parties trying to topple the government in syria with no plan for what will replace it. >> pretty strong words there from ted cruz again tying rubio to hillary clinton's policy in rubio. therefore, the benghazi attacks. if you watch rubio give speeches like this, he was being careful not to make a mistake. >> we've got new polls to talk about.

i might be eating crow. if this was republican, we do need to talk about that sound bite of donald trump on the stage before the jewish coalition because this is why you're about trort what you're about to report among many other reasons. he just doesn't actually pander if he doesn't feel like it. he doesn't do anything he doesn't feel like doing and people like that. >> donald trump was booed yesterday when he was asked whether or not jerusalem should be the undivided capitol. >> over the last week. >> whatever you want. >> with all that in mind, a new national poll just crossing the wires republicans and republican leading independents. donald trump is now up by 20 points in this race. at 36% he's up nine points from

their last poll. ted cruz, second place at 16. he's up 12 points since the last poll. you have donald trump at 36, ted cruz up 16. donald trump up 20 points in this race. ben carson back at 14. he's down eight points since the last. another one to look at jeb bush down to 3%. >> i stand by my god civil la analogy of three months ago. you try to destroy him with electrici electricity, he just gets stronger. >> you've heard these numbers. trump up nine points in cnns last poll. what do you think? >> trump knows how to stay in headlines. the idea trump will be knocked out of the front position in the race because he does something outrageous or offensive, we've had way too many rounds of that. what will take him out is one or two things. if you notice the poll numbers and look at the full trend line

afternoon the time of the debate where other candidates are getting the news and making the oxygen, that's where the numbers tend to plateau or decline a little. soon as the void curves a little he fills it. the second thing that could undo trump, it's december. this is not necessarily, we don't have time for this to happen. voters all the sudden say i haven't been paying attention. i've just been hearing trump says things i find amusing. now it's five days before my primary. now i'm going to pick someone. you have a large number of republican voters who say i have not decided yet. i'm still choosing between three or four candidates. it's december. the fact that donald trump still performs this well in the polls is going to have republicans concerned. >> one thing we've seen true and prove itself in the polls and go to casey. she's going to be covering ben carson's policies in the next

report. they've been under krscrutiny. he's pulling lower. a lot of it is i think sometimes a candidate is undone when they're proved as totally not smart on issues. how do i say it politely? why don't i let casey take it from here. how did ben carson perform? >> we've seen it on the campaign trail. we've seen national security pop up in the news. he struggled to answer questions about who was advising him and what they were telling him and where he was getting his information. his speech raised a lot of eyebrows. the audience was definitely interested to talk about it on their way out. he read it very carefully. his aids say he wrote it all himself. i want you to take a listen to this one particular section where he was talking about hamas. >> the challenge is to split between fata and hamas.

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we have too many guns. a couple of charts to lay that out. the u.s. has 4.43% of the world's population. looking at the next chart you'll see interesting evidence in what's gone up. this chart compares gun ownership verses gun deaths in various countries and the red line shows there is a direct correlation between the two. if you look in the upper right hand corner you have the u.s. this data has a few more than a hundred guns per hundred people. they have about 12 homicides per thousand people. you see other countries like

france and switzerland many fewer guns, many fewer gun deaths. you get all the way to the bottom and see sing mother and the u.k. virtually no guns and no gun deaths. another piece of evidence is an experience australia had. back in 1996 australia had mass murder. you can see what happened here, this shows the delineation. gun deaths went down. by the time all was said and done, the homicide rate for guns had fallen 59% and the suicide rate fallen by 65%. they had a gun buy back program that took more than a million guns out of people's hands. >> given the numbers about how

many guns we have in this country, that would be almost impossible. you could ban guns today if some got their fantasy and still have more than 300 million guns floating around the country so a criminal that wanted to do bad could find a gun, right. >> the idea of the gun buy back program, you're right. it's a terrible problem we have. california has strict gun laws including on assault rifles. there's a lot before we need to give up. >> steve, thank you. coming up, our next guest spent decades on counter terrorism. malcom nance joins the conversation. why he says the wife in the san

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police work may have prevented another attack. authorities were led to their residents after a survivor of the shooting told investigators that the suspect slipped away from the conference center shortly before the massacre began. they checked his name and found he had rented an suv that matched the description of the get away car. steaking out the couple's home the suv passed by and sped away leading to the chase. joining us, philadelphia director and retired u.s. navy operator, malcom nance. his new book due out the next month. we can talk about isis parallels in a few moments. you're focussed on the wife as many of us are very curious as to what kind of roll even stronger roll she might have had

in this. >> you're right. what's interesting about this incident, if this is a case of radicalization, is the roll that the wife played in it. first off, there's interesting things about her. she's a pakistani living in saudi arabia and they were both married in the most honored place of islam. the question is whether she went through radicalization with a change of culture or someone brought to her she's now living in a world of disbelief or unbelievers. with that, she also managed to

learn advanced weaponry. >> a fear many have is isis is putting down deep roots in saudi arabia and there's much more radicalization against young saudis than we realize. what do you think about that? >> it's quiet possible. we need to step back and realize isis is a fifth generation of al qaeda's ideology which was started in 1998. noetd bli, in 644. they are bringing it out and making it spread at a greater

rate. saudi arabia suffered a war in 2005 and 2008 most people don't know about. they killed thousands of people fighting the al qaeda, arabian peninsula. what we may see is a deeper group gestating inside the kingdom. the question is was she radicalized in that way. >> kristin anderson, jump in. >> what's striking about the case is it's easier to radicalize someone whose isolated, unemployed. this wasn't the case here. this was a man who had a spouse or child who lived in sort of a middle class life and i believe there were reports that isis is now being able to draw supporters and from folks isolated but from middle and upper classes. is this something that further complicates our ability to fight isis in terms of ideology and

the psychological recruitment to people to radicalization. >> i believe the intelligence community, we have a good understanding of what radicalization processes are within the al qaeda ideology. it's an apocalypse tick islamic cult. the first step in isolating people and in order to get them from their support base is a process they call an illusion to the profit muhammad leaving mecca. they encourage people to come to a place like the islamic state or doing it mentally to where they can leave mentally all their friends and family behind. even if their living in close quarters with them and radicalize internally in order to carry out these attacks. this is what we might be seeing. >> the book is to carry out

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in the restroom, i'm getting ready to return. i hear explosions and hear thing tumbling. i look back at the mirror and see i'm bloody on my face. i could see the bullet holes higher on the wall. i told everybody we're being attacked. get on the floor. we just secured the restrooms so they couldn't get in. i laid on the floor and put my feet on the door. i had the gentleman beside me do the same. he wasn't going to be able to get in. when the swat team finally came we opened the door and exited the restroom. i exited with everybody. basically tried to run as fast as we could away from the building and follow procedures. i told them i was a medic.

another guy said he was and one of my good friends was shot and so i tried to render her aid. >> that was one of the survivors of wednesday's mass shooting who sat just feet away from the suspect for years. welcome back to morning joe. it is friday, december 4th. with us on set we have winning columnist and editor of the washington post eugene robinson. in washington retired assistant director of the fbi, sean henry. columnist and associate editor for the washington post, david joins us as well. the fbi has taken over the investigation into the exact motive of the killer as well.

many signs point to the radicalization of farook. he was with touch of people of interest who have expressed jihadis views as well as individuals overseas. this as police release photographs from the scene of wednesday's shoot out that wounded two officers and killed farook and his wife. palesti palestine the couple fired at least 76 rounds and were prepared to fire many, many more carrying rifle magazines. some of them taped together. in total, the pair carried 16 bull bu -- malik was modified to carry

high capacity magazines while farook's was tampered with to fire multiple rounds at once. police shot 380 rounds at and around the block the suv they rented three or four days before the slayings. joe, jump in at this point. we got a lot of sound bites ahead. politicians and the president responding to what's happened. we're going to go to carrie sanders with new poll numbers out as well. first, your thoughts on what we've heard so far from the president. >> well, it really does. it plays into the poll number, what we've seen. this is not a workplace dispute. if you look at the rounds of am in additi in addition and the pipe bombs but together. unless they worked in a place like dodger's stadium, the suggestion that this is not directly tied to their radicalization, even at this

point is tone deaf. hillary clinton has it right. we don't want to jump to conclusions until the investigation is over. but it didn't take long after oklahoma city to figure out that that was domestic terrorism and didn't take long after 9/11 to figure out what 9/11 was all about. the president once again seems to be dragging his feet and once again fuelling those on the right who appear to be stronger on this issue. we'll talk more about that in a bit. let's continue obviously following this story. >> there's points daiftd made i would like to two of you to hash out. first, here's the president followed by hillary clinton in terms of the contrast. take a look. >> we don't know why they did it. we don't know at this point the extent of their plans. we do not know their motivations. it is possible that this was terrorist related.

we don't know. it's also possible that this was workplace related. >> but it's becoming clearer that we are dealing with an act of terrorism. something that included bombs, luckily one that didn't go off. but pipe bombs were found through a search of their home. lots of weapons and just a deliberate hateful murder of all those innocent people. >> big difference. >> huge difference. david ignacious. to most listening to brock and hillary clinton, hillary clinton appears to be head on and barack obama appears to be clueless like he was clueless when we talked about the jv team and like he was clueless when he talked about how isis couldn't

reach us here. i understand the investigation has to move forward but the president once again is failing to step forward and shall we, this sort of leadership a lot of people want. that fuels the rise of candidates like donald trump who says we're going to bomb the held out of them. it's not a workplace dispute, right. >> i think suggesting that is prime mistake. i would say the president is cautious. that's his nature to call him clueless, i think, is unnecessarily sharp. i do think, joe, that looking at this latest tragedy, people who are really worried about terrorism and many of those are on the right and people who are really worried about gun safety and many of those are on the left surely could agree that reducing the ability of people

like farook and malik to have access to semiautomatic weapons is a good thing. >> the president of the united states won't call it islaming radicalism. a lot of people voting for hillary clinton scratch their head and wonder why. the white house said the weekend of paris that this couldn't happen to the united states. maybe this is not isis but you said the president is cautious and the president doesn't like to jump ahead on fbi investigations. he certainly had no problem

doing it when it was hillary clinton's fbi investigation and the new york times reported how angered the fbi agents were and my point is this. i believe, david, the president is creating a void by looking clueless as to what's going on here and why these people struck out the way they did and collected these bombs and made these bombs and had all the am in addition they had. i think, david, yes. most democrats would agree with me. when the president sits there and says this might be a workplace dispute. democrats at home are scratching their heads saying what's wrong with him? why is he so clueless? >> david wants to jump in. >> joe, with respect, a terrible thing has happened and we're all trying to deal with it. to me, whatever problems there may be in tone with the president's comment he should have said it this way or should have been lighter about this

orless cautious about that. it's not as if he's the central person i want to focus on. he did this, mattered to me. the notion this president is creating a vacuum into which donald trump steps within inflammatory rhetoric takes the heat off donald trump. he's responsible for his actions, not president obama. i have many particular criticisms but i don't think he's the issue. the issue is these shooters. >> david, of course, that's the main issue, david. i'm talking though, people on the left complained about donald trump's heated rhetoric. they complain about the refugee crisis. they complain about the fact that there is fear across america. so much so that as you know depends on strong presidential leadership. i'm not blaming barack obama for

the attack. i'm saying look at hillary clinton's response. that lines up for where most americans are. i think most americans feel concerned that you got a president that still appears to be clueless as to just how dangerous this world is when it comes to isis and when it comes to islamic extremism. that's not a republican point of view. i think it's early days and there's a distinction as to how someone's sitting in the oval office office. i agree throwing in the thing at the end taste workplace dispute

might be necessary. what motivated these people is true. i think when you're president. >> steve, you don't know what motivated these people? >> i don't know. >> do you think it was a workplace dispute? >> no, i just said that. i thought the the president might have left out that part. >> what else might it be? you think their lay over was too long at lax? >> you said you don't know if it's isis related and don't know whether it relates to the wife who seems to be more religious and part of that world. there's a thousand things we don't do. >> do we not know without an fbi investigation being completed, do not almost all law enforceme

enforcement. >> it's one thing for the republican candidates to say this is -- it's another thing for the president of the united states whose in charge to say this is x when at that point we did not know it was definitively terrorism. although, it certainly looks like it. >> what the investigation is going to do is identify specifics. specific people, specific

networks, specific points of contact and those are the issues the professionals are going to focus on and it isn't appropriate for a political leader to jump on that. to say that somehow the president says this looks like another active islaming extremism but we need to get all the facts in like we knew it was al qaeda after 9/11 does not hamper an investigation. >> how does it help anything? how does it help anything for the president to make definitive statements at the moment when we don't know that much? >> i find it stunning that we're having this conversation. just like i find it stunning when republicans are actually debating whether terrorist on terror watch list should get a

hold of bush masters. the pact is that the president has shown a void of leadership on the fight against terror. >> i think we have talked this out. willie, trust me, i may be alone in this set. i am not alone with americans thinking the president needs to be more forceful on this issue and stop scratching his head. most believe the problem is coming here.

>> yeah, i think you're absolutely right. that's what the investigators are looking at. the accumulation of that type of weaponry is indicative of a much broader plan, a much larger target set and the movement to harm a lot of people. one thing i want to bring up which i think is very important. we've touched around the edge here of when we've talked about the international travel and the wife and that when the fbi is looking for motivation, they're looking for something specific that's a connection to islamic jihad radicalization. we talked about social media and who they may have been in contact with internationally. what if the wife is actually the person who has radicalized him as opposed to the other way around? she's much more religious and comes to this country and she's disenchanted. let me take it one step further.

this is speculation. i was talking with a colleague, pure speculation, he was online looking for a wife. what if he was actually sought out by her as a means to come here? i think about a woman who leaves her child six months old to commit this type of an act. that's an outlier behavior and perhaps something that the fbi will be looking at when they go into that international investigation. >> you're right, sean. i keep coming back to this. what kind of person could clooef their child knowing they'll never see the baby again? let's bring in carrie sanders. he's on the ground in san bernardino, california. some people waking up with new facts and information. bring us up to speed. >> hopefully, some of the questions asked there can be answered. this is the apartment where they had the bomb making factory. it was in the garage out back. 12 completed pipe bombs as well

as an array of equipment. more than 3,500 rounds of am in addition found here and of course, fbi has pulled out the digital fingerprint and digital media of their life. they're hoping they're going to be able to reconstruct sort of the question you were asking about the connections made between malik, the wife and farook the husband. it all started on the internet. there are reports some of the hard drives and cell phones have been destroyed. the fbi has a lab that can go through destroyed equipment. in this case it was believed it's been smashed and pull out some data. there's the possibility here and likely getting a subpoena will be easy to look at the records from the internet service provider to see what contact was made going back over the years. it's 2013 farook and malik meet up on the internet.

he arranges meeting her through a dating site and they go to saud rab zamora. they get married and come back here and are married here in this country in 2014, guys. >> carrie, thanks. >> okay. we've got some interesting political news to cover as well. donald trump has a tremendous lead in a new national poll out moments ago. with 36 points in a 14 person race, donald trump has a 20 point lead over his nearest rival. that's a nine point gain since october. now, the poll was conducted before the shooting in san bernardino. senator ted cruz second at 16% up 12 points followed by ben carson dropped by 8. marco rubio in fourth with chris christie in fifth. look at jeb bush. he's at just 3%.

a new low in this poll. on the issues considered important to voters trump's lead the bigger. 46 point lead on who would best handle the economy. 34 points ahead on immigration. 31 points ahead on handling isis. 13 points ahead on foreign policy. whose the most electable in the general election, trump towers over the others. 52% say he's most likely to win. asked in august only 38% of respondents said the g.o.p. had a better shot winning with trump. joe, we've got chuck standing by but i first want your thoughts on that. >> well, i think i've already in our conversation made it clear how i feel about it. politics and i learned this in my first campaign management school class back in 1993, it's all about contrast. jimmy carter came out of nowhere saying i will never tell a lie.

that was in start contrast to mixing republicans and gerald ford who pardoned richard nixon. four years later ronald reagan won and preached strength against jimmy carter's perceived weakness. donald trump's numbers are exploding at the same time barack obama appears to be decisive in the fight against isis and terrorism. there's a ted cruz, marco rubio battle. then there's donald trump 20 points ahead. a lot. choose from there.

tell me what strikes you in this poll. >> i think he's going to get stro stronger. i think many people are going to look at it he's being exploited but in situations like this, the way he's been talking, the tough talking, he's basically using the same messaging but now about muslims and terrorism. national security when you talk about foreign policy and what to do in the middle east, he's not that strong but he has turned all these issues into domestic security. this is where i think you're right, joe. i think this is, i think there's plenty of voters grav grav stating toward him because he's willing to say what others won't be saying. >> when bombs are going off in paris and paris is looking

like -- and suburban neighborhoods in california are looking like baghdad in 2005 and 2006 they don't want to hear somebody saying we're not sure and don't know how to win. syria is difficult and tough. they want to hear what ronald reagan said in 1979 and 1980 when asked what are you going to do about the hostage crisis? what are you going to do about the soviet union? we're going to win. of course, it's simple minded. i'm not comparing donald trump to ronald reagan, my republican friends. it's all about contrast. barack obama is giving donald trump and ted cruz a perfect platform to do exactly what they're doing whether it's ot r offensive to americans or not. >> i have a close friend who

never in their entire adult life thought about purchasing a gun and over the last couple of weeks it's not about purchasing a gun for t. the combination of all these empts. the mass shootings in general, the fear of terrorism, there is a feeling of insecurity in the american public. >> i want to go to. >> we rely on a president to help us get through those times. whether that's fair or not it's part of the job. i think that the white house needs to be aware this is a time of ensecurity out there. if they don't fill the vacuum, somebody else is going too. >> david and gene, let me go to you guys. you may remember. everybody believes that the american conservative movement really launched in 1980. it didn't. it launched in 1966.

a lot of that fear that helped elect ronald reagan in 66 was generated by the riots in 1965 in los angeles and it fuelled reagan's rise and i'm just, when chuck told me the story, when rick's remarkable books about conservatism in america talked about gun purchases and white neighborhoods exploded you have republicans talking about gun control in 1965 and 66. >> you did, joe, as a matter of fact, i thought the quickest way to get gun control in this country would be to form something called the black rifle association. it was fear of black people having guns. >> wow. >> i'm serious. >> that did happen in the suburbs in l.a. in 65 and 66.

>> i had did happen. look, i do take your point there is insecurity and people feel very nervous. in suburban neighborhoods they look at what's happening in the world and say could it happen here? the question is how does the president of the united states respond to that? president obama as a strong idea of how he wants to repond to that. his idea of how to respond to that is to try to tell people to be calm and put it in perspecti perspective. that doesn't play well with some people. that's his decision and so i think he's communicating what he wants to communicate. >> david. >> i agree with you entirely when people are insecure and frightened and disoriented they want a strong leader. a strong leader is not always a

good leader. i think the metric people should have is what is a good commander in chief say in a sich ration that addresses the real causes here? there's so many criticisms you could make of barack obama's commander in chief. i am worried trump is heavy on rhetoric and so loose on specifics about how to deal with these problems that he's not really offering solutions. that would be my only caveat. >> i want to be very clear. i'm not endorsing what he says at all. i'm just explaining if we want to understand why donald trump is going up in the polls don't look at other republican candidates. look at the president whose record he's running against and how he's responding to terror crisis. >> i think he's trying to contrast himself to the president. i want to go back to that moment. we have to remember when the president was briefed verses

when hillary clinton spoke. there was a big deference that said i do think and the president had just been briefed. i have to tell you if you recall it was an hour later pete williams reported this was fear there was radicalization. i think that's what the president had just been told it was probably radicalization. that's why he looked action frankly like there was this, you could tell there was a total change in his demeanor and he didn't go on his gun control rant tas the day before. he was very subdued. i do think he should have put that in perspective and the timing. larger picture here. larger picture. is this issue of i think there's insecurity there. not i think. we know there's unsecurity. this is something we know the president and all the democrats need to be aware of. >> great conversation. i think we all agree joe might

at times be unnecessarily sharp to use david's words. it's better than other phrases been used. >> thank you, mika. >> good point, mika. fair point. >> chuck, what's coming up on meet the press? >> we got the attorney general taking the lead on the investigation of loretta lynch. >> shaen henry, thank you as well. still ahead pete williams joins us with his latest reporting into the san bernardino shooting investigation. later, the politics of prayer. we are joined by senator chris murphy of connecticut who says members of congress don't get elected to send out sympathy tweets. this is what we've been planning for. knowing our clients personally is why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way.

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they're looking into the background of farook's wife from

pakistan. she's only been in the u.s. the last couple of years. the couple came here in 2014. he had been living in river side, california and went over seas and met his wife during the pilgrimage of saudi arabia. she's been in the country for about a year or so. not been that long sense she's been here. looking to see what they can find had from her past. >> we had on earlier some focussing on on the wife. some focus trained now. is there suspicions surrounding her at this point? >> well, the fact she was involved in this attack is so unusual. it's unusual to have a woman involved in a mass shooting. secondly, a man and woman, it's not uncommon for one person and

usually the man in a marriage to be preparing for a terror attack without his spouse being aware of it. she obviously had bought completely into whatever the motive was here so she's an equal partner. >> a lot more questions on her. thanks, pete. >> joining us now from hartford, connecticut, member of the foreign relations committee democratic senator chris murphy. yesterday wrote god isn't fixing this. only people who agree with me can pray for gun violence. usually a bully who can't get his or her way through more gentle persuasion unless we start electing leaders who work

together to solve big problems, prayer may be all we government chris murphy, i guess he's responding to you. i'm not sure you were swrojokin were you? >> listen, i come from sandy hook, connecticut. i know prayers and thoughts, i know they're important and i know they're important to san bernardino. right now, these thoughts and prayers and sympathies have become a mask for an action and they're holy and sufficient. my point, i don't know what the the new york daily news is tr trying to communicate but my point is thoughts and prayers are great but got to be followed up by action. what's so offensive in the wake of another mass shooting we have a gigantic policy trying to cut down and not pursuing any of them. we are absolute sli frozen. maybe i shouldn't tweet in anger but i'm angry we're not trying

to do anything to stop this. >> let's try to figure out and we understand that obviously, the nra is going to get in the way in washington of passing a lot of meaningful legislation. what would be the most likely piece of legislation to get the most support in congress that would do the most good? >> so i was surprised yesterday we weren't able to get more than one republican vote on this bill that would put those on the terror watch list on a list of those who can't purchase guns. >> that is really stunning. who is the one republican i should send flowers to? >> i think it was mark kirk who happens to be in cycle this year. here's where we can come together. we can come together an a big mental health reform bill. it's broken. not just because it will have a downward effect on gun violence.

>> critics would say there's no sign of a mental health problem yet. he bought the guns or received them legally. what law, what safety net could have been put into place to stop the carnage in california? >> i think it's a mistake to suggest there's any law going to stop every single mass shooting. i think we should be a little weary of reacting to every

single shooting with a different policy prescription. what we know is this guy is a wash in guns. we know they walked in with a military assault weapon with high capacity magazines and sounds familiar for those of us who lived through newton. we think in guy was talking perhaps to those ral cdicalized. it speaks to the fact no one on the terror watch list should be able to buy a gun. if men health shouldn't come up. >> senator, i know some of my republican friends will say what carly said yesterday.

the terror watch list is too conclusive. did they try to say we can stop people on the terror watch ris from buying guns and purchasing semiautomat ek weapons if we tighten the terror watch list? >> the response is ted kennedy was once only no fly list. that is irrelevant. that's an argument the dismantle the entirety of the criminal back grountd skpek system. the criminal justice system -- 99% of the people on the terror watch list, it's a totally

ridiculous argument. >> thank you so much. this is a ridiculous argument. most agree with me the press is not strong enough on terror. most agree with me that the republican are insane when it comes to allowing people to keep the guns out of the hands of those on the watch list. >> still ahead, republican candidates lay out their vision to conservative jewish leaders

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are these men? who are these men? >> well, i tell you who they are. >> when i saw it yesterday, i'm like where did they come from? >> they're men speaking to the republican jewish coalition. their candidates except for trump. he had his own special way of appe appealing. take i loa look. >> last night i was watching chandler's list. my mother told me one time. she said johnny if you want to look for a really good friend, get somebody whose jewish. you know why she said that? she said no matter what happens to you, your friend, your jewish friend will stick by your side and fight right with you and stick right with you.

>> i would say 99.9, is there anybody who doesn't negotiates deals in this room? perhaps more than any room i've ever spoken, you're not going to support me even though i'm the best thing that could happen to israel. you're not going to support me because i don't want your money. >> shut the front door. i don't know what to say. i really don't. >> you know, where do we start? do we start with jim gillmore to stumble across the list or john kas k kasich, my mom says be good friends with a jew. talk about ham fisting. >> you're mouth dropped open and your just started howling. >> unbelievable. >> look. first of all, can i just say i would like to be morning joe's special jewish friend? i don't know if there's an

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>> in this particular segment. >> this is true. >> pronunciation can be >> i will actually tell you what's going on. what's going on is what mark halperin has said for over a year now. he said this is the most overrated field in modern american political history. everybody has assumed because this is going to be a strong political field. this is one of the weakest field i've ever seen. and numbers did not add up to

strength as far as strong candidates go. >> i have to say, donald trump had a different approach. i actually thought that was kind of honest. >> it was actually offensive to say you're jewish, therefore, you're all great negotiators and it's all about money. >> and it's quite frankly just ass did hone s d as honest the pandering word, the others are doing -- >> i think the problem is the otherness thing. you're either a white, old, waspy american or another. whether you're a mexican or whether you're a muslim. and now even with this group, if you are a jew, it's as if they're looking at specimens under a microscope. it's staggering out of touch

they are. >> they're not treating jewish voters as voters, they didn't talk in any brad fashion -- it's just if i hit the hamas button or homeless button, if i hit certain other marks, then i will win over other audiences. >> let's put the humus aside for the moment. let's talktheir views. you watch this parade of men and carly fiorina. who the the best -- >> i think marco rubio and chris christie had the best -- trump was winging it. >> that's what he does. >> but the middle east is very hard to wing. it's not an area that you really

want to wing it in front of an audience that knows more than you do. marco rubio was reading because he does have relatively speaking a good command of that. >> you thought governor christie did well, though? >> i didn't watch because i couldn't stand it. i wasn't there so i didn't see christie but i just interviewed christie on a set of isn'subjec since last night. he's obviously been doing a lot of studying. i don't agree with everything but he's talking about the middle east in a serious way that he wasn't before. >> so we had some fun with those clips but you think there are somifies in the race who have some thoughtful, well developed -- >> it's less pandering and --

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something that although we train for it, it's something that you're never actually prepared for. when we got the call, i oversee dispatch, it's one of my functions and responsibilities with the police department and i know my dispatchers, i know the tone of their voice, i know the severity of calls as they're going out and i could hear it in our dispatcher's voice that this was actually happening. this was a real event. it was the event that we have an active shooter and an active shooter going on in our city. >> we're also learning more about the husband in this married killing duo, including reports that he's been in contact with extremists. good morning, it's friday, december 4th. welcome this morning eugene

robinson, former treasury official steve rattner is with us and in washington, associate editor for "the washington post," david ignatius. the hunt for answers in the chaotic massacre in san bernardino continues this morning. the fbi has taken over the investigation into the exact motive of the killers while evidence points to both religious-fueled extremism and potential anger at the shooter's c co-workers, who was among the 14 dead and injured at the scene. >> authorities tell nbc news he was in touch with persons of interest in the los angeles area who have expressed jihadist-oriented views, as well as individual overseas, this as police release photographs from the scenes of wednesday's shoot-out that wounded two officers and killed farook and

his wife, tashfeen malik, who emigrated on a k-1 fiancee visa. the company fired 76 rounds and were prepared to fire many, many, carrying multiple 30-round mag zons. in total the pair carried 1,600 bullets into the gun battle with two handguns and two legally acquired assault rifles. police returned fire shooting 380 round in the gun battle at or and the black suvs they rented three or four days before the slayings. >> fbi director shawn henry. a will t a lot of questions here.

does it seem to you as you look at this that they had more planned than what they carried out on that day? >> willie, i don't think any investigator anywhere worth their salt can look at what they had in their apartment, in their vehicle, those number of rounds, the high capacity weapons, the explosion of devices and say anything other than that. they had enough to really -- for multiple attacks in multiple places. so this is something the fbi is looking at this as a terrorist event. they have not apparently made direct correlation to jihge jih radicalization but this is what they are looking at. >> law enforcement has been careful up to this point to not call this a terrorist event. at what point in their eyes does it become a terrorist event in what are they looking for specifically? >> it all comes done to

motivation and they're looking for a drkt coral's are either to somebody drbting them from international from syria, pakistan, the middle east, some direct connection where they're being given guidance and plans or they're looking for them being radical oozed here domestically, have they been online, how did they get the plans to build the bombs that they built and is there some direct connection through social media, again, where somebody in contact with this many providing them with guidance and clear direction. so until they find that, they're not going to say this is specifically terrorism, although, again, all signs certainly appear to be that based on what i've soon and what others have suggested who are involved in the investigation, willie. >> that max sense at this sense. >> most top officials, including

the president, are still relukt tant to point pen point the clause. even hillary clinton went farther than president obama in. we don't know why they did it. we do not know their motivati s motivations. this is possible that this was terrorist related but we don't kn know. it's also possible this was workplace related. >> but it's becoming clearer that we are dealing with an act of terrorism. something that included bombs, luckily one that didn't go off, but pipe bombs that were found through a search of their home, lots of weapons and just a deliberate, hateful murder of all those innocent people. >> i'd like to blame all of this

on barack obama. but -- but we have had republicans complicit in this weakening as well. from the time i began to watch the events unfold last night, i am convinced that was a terrorist attack. the president continues to wring his hand and say we'll see. let's remember something, everybody. if a center for the developmentally disabled in san bernardino, california can be a target for a terrorist attack, then every place in america is a target for a terrorist attack. >> david ignatius, let's start with you and take it to the table. first of all, the politics of terrorism, what i saw in hillary clinton's response was a very human response to a horrific event. a little more political with

chris christie there. it is kind of hard not to make some sort of connection to terrorism or inspired by, is it not at this point? >> it's clear the two had come prepared for aing abo big, long. why would they have attacked the social services center? it a strange target. "the washington post" has a fascinating story in which farook, a male shooter sits down to one of his male colleagues and his colleague said at one of his colleag -- point as he's said so many times, "ready to be bored?"

how were these people brought to this moment of mayhem. what was their training and instruction? to what extent are they linked through either virtual means, online chat form or people they might have contacted in saudi arabia or elsewhere to a network that's really directing violence. is this a one-off, lone wolf kind of shot, as angry young extremists have taken these actions or is it connected it a wider plot, to a group. those are questions that are worth holding off on. the size of the narls and preparation tells us something really powerful. >> sure. it looks -- it has many of the hallmarks of terrorism. it a vy weird -- it's -- with

all that armament, the bombs, though they didn't seem to be very well made bombs because they didn't go off and with all that ammunition, they could have gone to places where there were a lot more people and done a lot more arm. it want the isis style, classic attack in a sense. it was very weird. also. >> that everyone has reported this far about syed farook indicates nothing but surprise, the extent of these radical contacts that he had are described at least in the profile that i read this morning as pretty tangential. >> i agree with that.

the "new york times" today also has i think a helpful and very clear definition where it says terrorism has traditionally been distinguished from other mass killings by its political overtones. federal law defines terrorism as damage rouse acts intended to entim dit a civilian place, influence a government policy or effect government conduct by mass assassination or kidnapping. i don't think we know what their motives were next. >> this couple responsible for the death of 14 people, injuring 21 others, were care if the no to raise suspicions to anybody around them.

>> reporter: syed farook came to this san been two years ago, looking to heat up his lunch. he would come three or four disa week. >> we never saw him disrespect anyone, curse at anyone. >> i open the door, a gun pointed right at my face with a flashlight. i mean, what did i did to deserve a begun being pointed at me right at my door. >> all three of the men are shell shocked at the news. >> he was an american citizens, had a good paying job, he had a family. he was living the american dream. he had everything he could have had. >> records show he made over $ 70,000 a year. when he was looking for a wife on dating sites, he was described as calm, cool and thoughtful, that he liked to hang out in his back yard and shoot target practice in his friends and was looking for a

girl who would share the same outfit and wear a hijab. he fond hund her two years ago. >> when malik got pregnant, she registered at target. but behind the seeming normalcy were farook and his wife becoming radicalized. >> did your mosque radicalize saeig sayed. >> never. there is nothing radical happening here. >> look at the harm that came out of it. that woe're fearing for our livs and fearing for the muslim community. >> a horrific impact on the

muslim community. >> what's the impact for the president not to make a cleaner tie to terrorism here. gene, you were saying it's weird. i don't think it weird. i think if you arin spierd by isis or some other terrorist organization, you want to make it as frightening and shocking and completely out of the blue as possible. all of the signs we're seeing here, they're pointing to terrorism. >> they're pointing to signs but i think you have to wait. if you get too far out in front of this and say it is or isn't terrorism, you could find that that back fires on you. >> okay. david ignatius, crime in on this, especially on the president's careful, careful, careful language. >> i think steve is right. it's not the president's place it get out ahead of fbi investigators in something as sensitive as this.

and you see the dangers of premature statements in the reaction of those three people in the mosque where farook prayed. they are feeling very defensive. they're wondering do people believe us, do they automatically assume this we radical oozed this man? we may find evidence that people in that mosque or in california had that kbroul we have no idea that's true now. so i think in any investigation, it's appropriate for the president to be careful about getting ahead of the professionals. that said, it's really important for your viewers to understand what young muslims are seeing every day in online immediate kra. they're seeing horrific images of muslims. they're seeing desperate pleas if you can't take action at the caliphate, do something at home.

so they're just steaming in this daily ideological propaganda. we don't know if that's what drove farook and malik toward these actions but you've got it see the environment online that these people are living in. >> coming um on "morning joe," new poll numbers just out this morning and donald trump is now 20 points ahead of the field. 20 points ahead of the field. plus in some republican candidates weretorying ing try over jewish voters, it was painful. there were some amazing, cringeworthy moments. how do you describe that? >> pandering. >> it was just bad.

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you folks. we're negotiators. some of us renegotiate deals. is there anybody that doesn't renegotiate deals? this room -- perhaps more than any room i've ever spoken. you're in the going to sore me, even though you know i'm the best thing that could ever happen it israel. i know why you're not going to support me. you're not going to support me because i don't want your money. >> whoa. >> yikes. >> first of all, the first two needed to be separated from the third sound bite with donald trump, which stands alone. that's a whole conversation in itself. the first two -- >> what are the odds that jim gilmore stumbled upon "schindler's list" the night before. >> and watched the whole thing, the whole thing. >> i love kasich, but he can do better than that. >> if you want a friend, get a

jew! >> i don't even know what to say. those are some of the most pathetic moments of pandering and thpatheticness. kasie hunt, some subtle jabs at yesterday events, what did they have to say mid-pander or were they as bad? >> reporter: i have to say being in that room yesterday, there were some extraordinarily uncomfortable moments as those lines came from the stage. you sort of don't totally know how to react. but we didn't have them in either cruz or rubio's speeches and the members of the jewish coalition were pretty focused on what they have to say. there's a lot of talk that cruz or rubio is competing for

sheldon adelson's support at the moment. but i think you saw some divides -- you've been seeing divides open between them on foreign policy. rubio's gone after cruz for votes related to the meta data program, saying he's made americans less safe and cruz is starting to set out some ideological differences. you could hear that in their speeches yesterday. >> in choosing a president, we need to lk ook at what candidat do, not just what they say. many in my own party were trying to dough rail the post war consensus. they will never call themselves isolationists but that's exactly what they are. i believe those who speak about their pro israel views but carelessly support a gutting of the budget, i blef they need to

check their priorities. >> part of defeating our enemies is understanding who they are. and that means not going down the misguided foreign policy of barack obama and hillary clinton and unfortunately too many republicans in this town. in 2009 hillary clinton and barack obama led the effort to topple the government in libya. the consequence of that, libya's been handed over to liberal islamic terrorists. >> pretty strong word there from ted cruz again tying rubio to hillary clinton's policy in libya and in some way therefore the benghazi attacks. rubio reading pretty carefully from that speech. if you watch rubio give speeches like this, you know he was being

pretty careful not to make a mistake. >> i meet be eating crow. >> no, you wouldn't. we do need to talk about that sound bite of donald trump on the stage before the jewish coalition because that is why you are about to report what you're about to report among many other reasons. he just doesn't actually pander if he doesn't feel like it. he doesn't do anything he doesn't feel like doing and people look that. >> donald trump yesterday at the event was booed whether asked jerusalem should be the undivoided capital of israel and he said i don't know. >> i think he kind of said whaef you want. >> whaef you want. you tell me. >> in the loos two weeks, we've been -- i lot of people thought that was the end of trump. with that in mind, in new poll just crossing the wire, donald

trump is now up by 20 minutes to this race. he's up points from their last poll. ted cruz, second place at 16. he's up 12 points since the last poll. you have donald trump at 36, ted cruz at 16, dp up 20 minutes to this race given all we've soon in the last couple of weeks. been carson at 1, he's down 8 points. jeb bush is now down to 3%. >> i stand by my good sfwlil dz analogy a fun months ago. chris kristen, what do you think? >> what will take him out is one of two things, one, that he

falls out of the headlines. around the time of, say, a debate where other candidates are making news, getting some of the oxygen, that's where trump's numbers tend to plt toe or decline a little. but as soon as that void happens again, trump fills it. woe don't have time for this to happen is that voters say i haven't been been paying attention, i've just been hearing trump says things that i sometimes find amusing but it's now five days before my primary, now i'm going to pick someone. you still have a large number of republican voters who say i have not decided yesterday. but it's december. that number is going to be shrinking. the fact that donald trump still person forms this well in these polls will have a will the of republicanment. >> plus, yes, she can.

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there are still injustices person operated every day across our country, sometimes in spite of the law, and sometimes in keeping with it. there are still too many african-americans whose trp of the justice system is not what it should be. it is something profoundly wrong when a third of all black money face the threat of prison in some time of their lives. joining us now msnbc contributor analyst, michael eric dyson. his cover story is entitled "yes, she can, while hillary clinton will do more for black people than obama."

you write what can hillary clinton do for black people as president? she possesses neither her husband's perform tiff charisma with black folk, nor obama's undie anywayable blackness. mean just maybe we will get from hillary clinton what we most need and truly deserve, a set of political practices and policies that reinforce the truth that black lives must and do finally matter. joe? >> michael, thank you for being with us. the thrust of your column is so provocative, i don't know where to begin. so why don't you tell us, what's barack obama done to disappoint black black voters and what in the world can hillary clinton do

better for black voters than what barack obama has done ofve the past seven years? >> let me say i think barack obama will go down as one of the best presidents. what he has done for health care and -- >> you talk about dashed hopes. >> i'm talking specifically in regard to race, president obama like his foreign policy has led from behind. he didn't give us the bully pull put presence to go forwardly. his rhetoric is highly charged. he's highly conscious of the fact that whatever he does will be read has somehow deferring to the interest of the african-american. he has often said i am not the

president of black mensch just because i'm black and you happen to be black, it doesn't mean eem any less american and i think obama didn't get that calculus right and as a result of that he was afraid to embrace explicitly the interests of those people for the fear he would be read as prejudice and bias. >> we can find a clip from tavis smiley and i were having this conversation, that barack obama would be more reticent if he was a black president than not. >> he's not to be blamedin tirely about that. we live in an environment that doesn't want to engiven race and be open about it. the president in the midst of being attacked himself by racist bigots turned and and used his

bully pulpit to lecture black people. he went to the congressional black caucus and told them to stop complains,y he went before the march on 50th anniversary and there he said black people have used their own situations as an excuse to cover criminality. >> let me push back a little bit with these two data pointsone, hopes were dashed to the, tent that his share of the black vote increased, i believe, in 2012 from 2008? >> it went down from 6 to -- 96 to 93. i remember seeing research from essentially the day president obama took office in which americans broadly were asked essentially do you think he's more favorable to black people

than us, than other people? and that always scored very high. there were always -- there was always a big portion of while america that was predisposed to blef that whatever he did -- this is before he did anything, in fact, he was going to be biased toward african-american, you can argue what the hell -- >> it not what the hell, gene. your point you are president of the united states of america. a will the of people didn't blow that the justice system was unfair to african-american people and it took the kind of release of urban terror so it not simply you take a poll to determine what the litmus test of your commitment is or the content of your policy. the fact that many white americans thought, hey, he's going to hook black people up should have led him to be

sensitive to that matter but shouldn't have led him to scold black mrk and to refuse to stand up and be our president as well. i'm not asking for any handout, any extra hookup. i think because hillary clinton not an african-american, doesn't feel that burden, doesn't feel the necessity of proving she's distant clinically from african-american people can do what is necessary. craft public policy that will speak to the interests of black lives and people. >> she will be pressed. there are ways she can be d by african-americans than brauk could not be pressed. >> as an african-american, i expect the president to be the president. nogs extra but nothing less. i think we got less with obama. >> but if he believed that, why

is he not saying it now? after dylan roof, after trayvon martin, obama gets the point he can't reinforce the stereotype that black families are full of pathology without doing severe damage to the perception of african-american people. >> didn't who say trayvon could have been himself son? >> he did but i'm he was forced to say that after a while. i'm suggesting barack obama has not paid sufficient attention to the critical issues of the very consistency who made certain he would remain there, not once but twice. >> do you think president blin was better for african-americans than president obama? >> he signed welfare reform, which i think as policy was destructi

destructive. he put more black people in thinks cabinet. in that sense he was more sensitive. given, he had the privilege. barack obama doesn't have the privilege he can't go on a late night show and then play the sacks phone -- >> you think the president obama problem with obama being good to black people is that he's black himself? >> no, his -- he downtarget african-american communities like he targeted gays and others -- >> i wonder if you're taking into account the justice departmentnd eric holder. >> eric holder existed under barack obama. he was appointed by barack

obama. we can look at the contrast between barack obama and lynch because it determines the interest of that particular person to determine how they will behave in that office. >> we could go on much longer on this. when had my book on obama comes out in february, i'll come back. >> can you come back before? >> i could come back before as well. >> that would be nice. >> wow that, is fascinating. thank you so much for coming on today. >> thanks for having me. >> there's always so much focus on thos who commit mass shootings. but today we're learning more about the people who died while at a holiday story on wednesday. keep it roo -- right here on "morning joe."

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assertive enough. this would be a position my grandmother would say you can't win for losing. i think you guys might have been a little hard on him. unnecessarily sharp. >> what i've learned this morning was that pandering to an ethnic consistency can go so much further than i ever dreamed possible. i never thought it could go there. >> cartoon land. >> i'm very lucky to have a lot of jewish friends. >> you are. >> what time is it? >> msnbc live is going to be carrying breaking news throughout the day. we'll see you monday. >> and good morning to you. i'm jose diaz-balart. the shock gives way to grief.

as for the investigation, the fbi has now taken the lead. the official motive is still a mystery but there are indications the male gunman may have been radicalizeds possibly while traveling overseas. to those who knew him, even his own brother-in-law, they say there were no signs. >> he was a good, religious person. just look normal, anybody would be. but nothing i can see that would do that. >> nothing that would fit the term radicalize as i've heard? >> no, no that i've heard, hooves not