ideologies in general very few adhere to. catch "all in with chris hayes" 8:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. thanks for joining us. i'm erica hill. "hardball" starts right now. trump to muslims, you're not welcome here. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. last night donald trump blasted barack obama saying we need a new president fast. today he drove the heat higher saying the country should slam the door on muslims, period. his campaign issued this statement. "donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out

what is going on. until we're able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life." tonight donald trump is marking the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor with an event aboard the "uss yorktown" in mt. pleasant, south carolina, a not so subtle back drop from the candidate who is benefitting from the debate over national security and terrorism. katy tur is live at the event. robert costa here from "the washington post" and eugene robinson also of "the washington post." katy, i always think every time trump does one of these numbers, the public is going to say, no, he's gone too far this time. what is your estimate being with him? is this too much? >> i've got to tell you speaking

with people who have come out to this event and asking them specifically what do you think about the idea of banning all muslims coming into this country? the majority like the idea. they think it's a wise choice. they believe donald trump is going to keep them safe. the ones that said no comment, they'll have to think about it. but it wouldn't change their opinion of donald trump. they would still vote for him. why is this? about 60% of republicans say one of their biggest concerns is being the victim of terrorism. they believe donald trump will keep them safe. he's been unequivocal about bombing the hell out of isis, bring back waterboarding. they want to see black and white they don't want nuance, diplomacy or anything related to

what president obama has been doing. >> why jack it up? he was already the man in the cat bird seat and seen as toughest on illegal immigrants, anybody that might be somebody he doesn't like. why does he have to raise the heat saying we are going to slam the door on muslim people? how do you tell somebody is a muslim if they don't tell you? >> they don't want somebody necessarily who has been part of the establishment. they don't care that he doesn't have the experience. they believe he's going to put the people around him who will be smart. they just trust him, trust his opinion. they trust the way he sees the world. they like that he speaks directly to them. these are people who believe in donald trump whole-heartedly. they come out to see him in drove and they like what he is saying. they don't like the establishment. the closest person that said they like second to donald trump is ted cruz.

for the most part we are seeing ted cruz didn't totally condemn him for these comments, but we are seeing the vast majority of republicans and democrats saying they don't believe this is a good idea. also legal scholars and constitutional scholars saying this isn't legal and probably isn't constitutional either. >> thank you, katy tur. we'll be back to catch trump when he starts hitting the big points tonight. republicans have been quick to express their disagreement with trump. senator lindsey graham treat tweeted, every candidate for president needs too the right thing and condemn donald trump's statement. donald trump is unhinged. his policy proposals are not serious. john kasich said this is more of the outrageous devisiveness that characterizes his every breath and why he is insuited to lead the united states. and ted cruz said he does not agree with trump's policy. >> that is not my policy.

i believe the focus should focus on radical islamic terrorism. we need to be directly focused on threats to the united states. >> carly fiorina said waits dangerous overreaction, she called it. >> i think donald trump's overreaction is as dangerous as president obama's underreaction. president obama isn't prepared to do anything which is clearly foolish, but donald trump always plays on everyone's worst instincts and fears saying we are not going to let a single muslim into this country is a dangerous overreaction. >> ben carson told reporters we do not and would not advocate being selective on one's religion. democratic front-runner hillary clinton condemned clunt writing, this is reprehensible, prejudiced and devisive. you don't get it. this makes us less safe. you are out there covering this guy all the time. why is he jack it up tonight?

he's already on top of this baby. this is the hot issue, terrorism. >> timing notable. there are two new polls in iowa. monmouth university shows cruz up in iowa. another shows trump up. trump needs to be the center of attention. he wants to dominate the conversation. >> i think what he has done -- first of all, it's reprehensi e reprehensible, ridiculous what he proposes. unenforcible. >> suppose you have a muslim background or south asian background, but you're complete agnostic, are you still muslim? >> i think as far as donald trump is concerned, you are. if you look like a muslim, you're a muslim. he has drawn a line. you have donald trump here and everybody else on the other side. you've got the other republicans and president obama.

it highlights the fact when you look at the proposals the other republican candidates have for fighting isis, it's the same as president obama. except lindsey graham who wants to invade. it draws this sharp line. i think that's potentially good for trump. >> in following the play by play, which i'm doing right now, last night the president said terrorism is a cancer with no immediate cure. today trump comes along and says i've got a cure. slam the door on them. i thought that was very interesting, different theater here. one guy says calm down, the other guy says i've got a show for you. we'll kick them out the door. >> exactly. it sharpens this friction. it means nobody is going to get to the right of him or the muslim menace, you know? they're just not going to do it. just the way nobody is ever

going to get to the right of him on immigration in general. >> we are about to go into christmas. it's hanukkah now already. we are into this holiday season. people shopping. there will be a respite from politics for most people. that will end about two days after new year's. then politics will start again. then it's only about three weeks before the caucuses. we are getting close to this being real. do you sense the people who say they're for trump are less committed than they were two, three months ago? >> some of the most engaged voters in iowa perhaps taking a look elsewhere. when it comes to nationally, trump is speaking to the anger in the republican party. he's contrast what the president said last night about being welcome to muslims in this country. trump is doing the opposite. >> he's pulling out the welcome mat. >> the republican for the republican party, nobody is spending ads against trump. they may have chastising tweets. >> that's like hanging chads. >> i don't think that is going

to hurt this guy. polls show of all the candidates, this will disrupt the thinking of progressives, he has the strongest stick-to-itness. >> there's a lot of them. 25%, 30% of the party with him. he is going to do well in this big field in iowa, do very well in new hampshire, do very well in south carolina, then where are we? >> let's talk about any notion of christian or judeo christian belief. we have to go after the families. that is not something we do in the western world, go kill families. trump said on "face the nation" he didn't trust the sister of farook. he said as president he would target those families.

target them. i'm not sure what that means, but here he is. >> i would be very tough on families. because the families know what's happening. >> his sister said she didn't know what was going on. she was crestfallen for the victims here. >> i don't believe the sister. >> i would go after a lot of people and find out whether or not they knew. i would be able to find out. i don't believe the sister. they say they don't mind dying. i think they do mind dying they want their families left alone. we have to stop terrorism. >> that's how tough he's getting. live to him now in south carolina. >> it's the cheapest thing we can do, the cheapest thing, instead of fighting these wars and we have leaders afraid to do anything, we are going to make it so brave, so strong that people many, they're not messing. we're going to take care of our great vets. our wounded warriors. we'll take care of them.

because they -- thank you. they are not being taken care of. we have illegal immigrants being taken care of better than veterans. it's not going to happen any longer. not going to happen. not going to happen. so with isis, trump 46%. can you imagine that with all these characters running, on foreign policy, trump way up. in theory you could say maybe it's not my thing. people want to see strong, they want to see strength. they want to see protection. they want to be protected. that's it. i watched last night and i watched the president truly that didn't know what he was doing. he didn't know why he was there. he refuses to use the term "radical islamic terrorism." he refuses to use the term.

i don't even know if he knows what the hell is going on. i really don't. and they were looking at hillary clinton. honestly, i know hillary. it's just going to be an extension of obama. i think maybe worse. she's got no strength. she's got no stamina. remember that. you don't need a president with no strength or stamina when we're being ripped off on trade. we're being ripped off on obamacare which is going to be repealed and replaced by something really good. when our soldiers aren't being taken care of, when our military has never been like it is today, one of the generals was on television, as usual, saying we're the least prepared now than any time that he's ever seen it and he's been there a

long time retiring. that's how we are. in the most dangerous world we've ever had because of the power of weapons. we have people that don't know -- i'm telling you, i watch them. i watch these generals being interviewed. do you think general george patton would be interviewed? they'll be interviewed after total and complete victory. general douglas macarthur, they are not big for interview. they shoot first, talk later. these guys, and i don't think we'll have to. so you understand, bush. bush. he said yesterday was being interviewed. he said that he was -- talking about me. he was saying the nicest things about me. of course he said he'll be elected, he's at what, 3%? right? no. he said some things -- i said

who says that about an opponent. you don't say those things. he said very nice things. if you look at what happens where he is upset with me because he says the tone, the tone of donald trump is not nice. i say it all the time, we have people whose heads are being chopped off in the middle east because they're christian. and for other reasons. they're being dunked and drowned in steel cages and we talk about my tone. hillary says the same thing. mr. trump's tone is not nice. these people are living in a different planet. a different planet. and remember what i said about hillary, we need somebody who's strong.

we need somebody with incredible energy, but incredible intelligence and all of those things. i know a lot of tough people, but they're not smart. that's no good. they're easy. we need tough, we need smart. we need like -- we are so far behind the 8-ball in this country. we own $19 trillion. the budget they signed two weeks ago is going to make it $21 trillion. think of it, trillion, trillion, trillion dollars. who the hell ever heard of the world ten years ago? there was no such word. we owe $21 trillion in the very near future. we're really in trouble. we have to rebuild our country. we have to rebuild our infrastructure. we have to rebuild our military. and yet we do deals with china where there's a trade imbalance of over $400 billion a year in their favor, by the way, in case you had any question. japan. they send the cars by the

millions. $70 billion a year imbalance. that's like a loss. you look at mexico. we're going to build a wall. it will be a real wall. it will be a real wall. going to happen. it's going to happen. the people i'm dealing with -- you know, i focus on hillary later because i have to get through these 15 people. you know there's 15 of us. i had perry came out me strong. he went down. i had governor walker, nice guy. he went down. every guy that attacks me, so far they've gone down. we've got to keep it that way, right? lindsey graham, he's got zero. zero. let me ask you a question. i don't get lindsey graham. i don't get him.

he says, we don't either. he's literally at zero. you see it. and he keeps talking. he gets so much television. he's on television all the time and he doesn't go up. he's at zero, folks. his ideas are so bad, i'm more militaristic than him but i know how to win. he just wants to attack everything. he always sits with john mccain. it's like they're the bobsy twins. did you ever notice? some time i want to see him by himself. he's always sitting with john mccain, who's fine. i'm not knocking it. but you've got to know what to do. now me, i was against the war in iraq. i have a great temperament. you've got to attack, if you are going to do something, know what you're doing. i said if you attack a rat and

you wipe it out, iran is going to take over the entire middle east because you are going to ruin the balance. it was so simple to me. actually, they sent a group from the white house to see me because i got so much publicity, so much publicity that they sent a group from the white house, see mr. trump. i said, fellows, you are going to have iran take over the middle east and that's what's happening. and iran is going to take over iraq sure as you're sitting there. by the way, iraq with the second largest oil reserves anywhere in the world. we lost thousands of lives. we have wounded warriors who i love all over the place, $2 trillion. we have nothing. we got nothing. we got absolutely nothing. and we left. and we have a president shouldn't have been there, but

then we shouldn't have left the way we left. thank you. that's all right. treat her very nicely please. i don't know what she said, but whatever it was. i don't know what she said, but whatever it is. treat her nicely.

thank you very much. all right. treat her nicely. thank you. you know, they have a system now. they'll have four people. we're interrupted four times one night a couple of weeks ago. ended up four people, one person at a time and they'll scream something and then the next day the press will say, protesters. you have thousands of people here tonight and they'll talk about three or four people in that case just one. that person had a very weak voice. what a weak voice. strange. strange. too bad. you know the funny thing is, i look at democrats and liberals and conservatives and republicans, wouldn't it be good for all of us if we could get together and really make our

country great again? isn't that what we want to do? i bet you if i spoke to that young woman quickly, i could convince her we're all in this together, folks. pastor, stand up. you have been so great to me. a pastor and a great guy. he has been so great to me. i appreciate it, pastor. thank you. thank you. but you know, if you think about it, and you have some that can never be satisfied. most people aren't and they believe something and i have smart friends don't agree with me, but i believe that if you are talking about making america great, we have to be strong, we have to be vigilant.

if we're not vigilant. >> usa! usa! usa! usa! that was the same person. so far the security is not doing a great job in here, i'll tell

you that. that was the same person. security, strengthen yourself up. see? our country has this kind of security. that's the problem here. get her out. please. thank you. treat her very nicely please. she should be taken out. same person. one person. it's one person. they let her out, they give her a second chance and the same thing happens. but would you think, would you think that everybody -- we're all in the same basket that everybody, every single pers person -- >> trump! trump! trump! trump!

>> i have a lot of time. does everybody have a lot of time tonight? i don't want the person to be hurt, but i will tell you, security is very weak. i can't believe these security people. one person, one person and we wasted five minutes. get him out. thank you. would you think if we could get together, we would all be in the same boat. last night we all witnessed something i thought was highly inappropriate. in fact, i tweeted, is that all there is? about the president's speech p. i wrote something today that i think is very very salient, very important and probably not

politically correct, but i don't care. you know we had a situation in california very recently where somebody was making bombs in an apartment. the mother saw him. the mother didn't notice anything wrong. i watched the sister being interviewed. believe me, in my opinion, she was lying like crazy. i watched that interview. oh, my brother was such a wonderful guy. i didn't know, i didn't know. i didn't know. and i watched the next door neighbor saying, oh, well, we didn't report them because we didn't want to racially profile or didn't want to profile. give me a break. give me a break. we're like the stupid country. so many different ways. can you imagine what our great leaders of the past would have said with the kind of crap that's happening with us? they didn't want to report them because they thought it was

profiling. okay. they saw bombs. they saw the pipe bombs. when a bomb is this long, got to put too many of them together for a bathroom, right? we thought maybe, but we didn't want to racially profile them. okay, you're innocent. how about the families and girlfriends go back with world trade center. worst than pearl harbor. with the world trade center, they were killing innocent civilians. at least while it was a dirty, rotten sneak attack, at least, at least -- thank goodness he's on my side. while it was an attack, at least it was military. this was an attack on the world trade center. what's happened is we're out of control. we have no idea who is coming into our country. we have no idea if they love us

or they hate us. we have no idea if they want to bomb us. we have no idea what's going on. then i looked at poll numbers and i don't mean polls where i'm winning. those numbers i like looking at. these numbers i hated to look at. it's very, very sad. i'll go after some of the numbers. 25% of those polls, and this was from the center for security policy, very highly respected group of people. this is people living in this country. 25% of those polls agreed violence against americans is justified. muslims. 25%. 51% of muslims living in this country. i have friends that are muslims, they're great people. they know we have a real problem. something's going on. and we can't put up with it, folks. we can't put up with it.

51%, 51% highly respected number of polling groups want to be governed according to sharia. i wrote this out. the mainstream media wants to surrender the constitution -- the mainstream media. these people back here are the worst. they are so dishonest. no, no, no. they're so dishonest. they are so dishonest. i had one from nbc, a reporter from nbc, actually another one i think from cbs, in columbus, ohio, i had a tremendous crowd like 10,000 people. it was a lovefest. it went on for a long time. everybody stayed right till the end. i had one of the politicians, kasich -- he's a horrible debater. to me he's a horrible -- he made

a statement, oh, they left after ten minutes. the press was there, they saw it. nobody says it was a lie. nobody is leaving here except for the one person who was screaming. we get the biggest crowds. they don't show the people trying to get in. they have the cameras in my face. fan the crowd. look at the people here. it's a record in the history of this ship. they don't show it. no, no. i say fan it and they never, ever fan it. i say fan the crowd. they never fan it. yet, i guarantee you that young woman that just got taken out after interrupting us three times, i guarantee the cameras will be on her.

i guarantee. it's disgusting. so we talk about the media. some of the media's terrific. most of it, 70%, 75% is absolute dishonest. absolute scum. remember that. scum. scum. totally dishonest people. i had one the other day where i finished the speech and they said trump was interrupted and he left early. i spoke like for 45, 50 minutes. i then answered questions then i went around -- you know, everybody knew it was false. amazingly, there's a media group that calls the media next day they did the most beautiful story about what it lie it was from nbc. she's back there. little katy. she's back there. what a lie it was. no. what a lie, katy tur.

what a lie it was from nbc to have written that. was a total lie. and they did a story, i didn't know they had a group like this, where they actually criticized the media. they said it was a total lie. i loved it. i loved it. then other people pick it up. it's nbc so somebody picks it up. third-rate reporter. remember that. third rate. third rate. i said the mainstream media wants to surrender our constitution, and our constitutional rights, and i don't want that. i want isis to surrender. okay? i want isis to surrender. very simple. it's very simple. here's what happened. it's been a great day because the poll numbers are through the roof. i like that. i wish -- there is any way we

can call the election tomorrow? wouldn't you love that? now they're coming at us in full force. not coming at me, coming at all of us. coming at all of us. we have a noisy majority. they used to call it the quiet majority. people are fed up with incompetence. they are fed up with stupid leaders. they are fed up with stupid people. our president makes a deal for sergeant bergdahl, a dirty rotten -good trader who, think of it, they knew he was a trader becausetrader -- traitor. six people were killed. i watched the parents on television. we'll never be the same. le left to bring him back.

it's called desertion. now they won't do anything to him. they think he's going to get away with nothing. so he left. they treated him rough though. he got in there and said, i shouldn't have done this. this isn't working out the way i thought. any way so we get him back. we get a dirty no-good trader. they get five of their greatest killers that they've been after, think of it, for six years. i hear nine years. so they get these -- right now, they're out on the battlefield trying to kill everybody in front of them, including you folks, i hate to tell you. so we get bergdahl and they get five of the killers they wanted for many years.

the iran deal. we gave them $150 billion. it's called amateur night we cave them $150 billion. 24 days, 24 days we think there's something wrong. 24 days we have to wait, but it's much longer than that because there is a whole process because the clock starts ticking. so could be forever. but the best is when they have the right to self-inspect. are you doing nuclear weapons over there? we'll inspect tomorrow. oh, no, we're not doing nuclear weapons. the persians are great negotiators. always have been. somebody would say that's profiling. trust me. they're great negotiators. and kerry is a horrible negotiator. obama is a horrible negotiator. horrible. a horrible negotiator. these people are horrible.

i always thought obama would be a unifier. i don't think you are going to be a good president. i backed mccain. he lost, by the way. i don't blame mccain for losing. a lot of bad things were happening. i backed romney. he should have won but he went on vacation or something the last month and lost. i said this time i'm going to do it myself. we're not going to lose. we're not losing. and the recent fox poll that came out has me beating hillary very easily one-on-one it. love that. that's so important. so we put out a statement today. it's impossible to watch this gross incompetence i watched last night we put out a statement. these people are going crazy.

they won't report it. should i read you the statement? donald j. trump is calling for -- listen to this. this is pretty heavy stuff. it's common sense. we have to do it. remember the poll numbers. 25%, 51%. remember the poll numbers. remember this. listen. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. we have no choice. according to pew research, among

others, there is a great hatred toward americans by large segments of the muslim population. most recently, a poll from center for security policy released data showing 25% of those polled agreed that violence against americans -- these are people that are here, by the way, people here. 25 -- not 1%. 1% would be unacceptable. 1% is unacceptable. 25% of those polled agreed that violence against americans here in the united states is justified. think of that. as part of the global jihad. they want to change your religion. i don't think so. i don't think so. not going to happen.

as part of the global jihad. and 51% of those polled agreed that muslims in america should have the choice of being governed according to sharia. you know what sharia is? 51%. sharia authorizes -- look, this is -- i mean, terrible. sharia authorizes such atrocities as murderers against nonbelievers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to americans, especially women. especially women. tough stuff. we have a president who won't mention the term. mr. trump stated without looking at the various polling data,

it's obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. such a big portion. where the hatred comes from and why, we'll have to determine. we'll have to figure it out. we have to figure it out. we can't live like this. it's going to get worse and worse. you are going to have more world trade centers. it's going to get worse and worse, folks. we can be politically correct and we can be stupid. it's going to get worse and worse. until we are able to determine and understand this problem, and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victim of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad. these are people only believe in jihad. they don't want our system. they don't want our system. and have no sense of reason or respect for human life.

they have no respect for human life. that's all right. he sounds like he's very exhausted. all right. he's tired. so they have no respect for human life. so we have to do something. now, we can be weak, we can be ineffective. we can be foolish. it's all right. it's all right. i'm sure he's a nice person. i'm sure he can be reasoned with. be very gentle. when i'm tough the press is all, he was nasty. when i say be gentle, they say, he's not as strong as we thought he was. can't win. i try to cut it down the middle. i try and cut it down. be very nice.

by the way if some of the people in those places where it was absolute slaughter had guns, you wouldn't have had the carnage that you had in paris. you wouldn't have had that carnage. if they had guns, you wouldn't have had that carnage. so important the second amendment. we have to preserve it and cherish it. we can't let these weak leaders diminish it. if they had guns in paris, if five people in that room, paris and france has probably the toughest gun laws anywhere in the world and it was like target practice. come over here. boom. come over here, boom. people are sitting by the hundreds. and many others are going to be dying, sitting in a hospital in many cases waiting to die.

same thing a few days ago in california. no guns. we didn't have guns. the bad guys had the guns. i tell the press stop calling them master minds. these are dirty rotten scum. these aren't master mind. remember the guy in paris with the big dirty hat? the master mind. what is watching all the networks. i won't mention who. some disgusted me. the master mind is on the loose. we have kids watching the internet. they want to be masterminds. then you wonder why do we lose all these kids? they go over there. they're young, impressionable. they want to join isis. we have our anchors. i think i got them mostly stopped. i don't hear it too much. they say the young master mind. he's brilliant.

brilliant. i don't even think he's got a high i.q. in paris, i called him the guy with the dirty filthy hat. okay? not a smart guy, a dummy. puts people in there, master mind. bing, bing, bing, they start shooting everybody. the press has to be responsible. they are not being responsible. we are losing a lot of people because of the internet. we have to close that internet up. people say freedom of speech. freedom of speech. these are foolish people. we have a lot of foolish people. we have a lot of foolish people. we've got to do something with the internet because they are recruiting by the thousands. they're leaving our country. when they come back, we take them back. come on back. where are you? i was fighting for isis. come on back. go home. enjoy yourself. when they leave our country, and

they go to fight for isis or any of the other groups, they never come back. they never can come back. they never can come back. they can never, ever, ever, ever come back. it's over. how about that? now they become radicalized. they are totally radicalized. how about the woman? she was in pakistan, then saudi arabia. she comes in on an engagement deal and she radicalized the guy. probably a guy couldn't get women. i don't know what the hell his problem was. probably the first woman he ever had. i don't no he what was going on. he became radicalized quickly. notice how easy? he becomes radicalized. then they go on a spree. folks, those days are over. we have to be tough. we have to be smart. we have to be vigilant. yes. we have to look at mosques.

we have to respect mosques. yes, we have to look at mosques. we have no choice. we have to see what's happening. something is happening in there. man, there's anger. there's anger. we have to know about it. we can't be these people that are sitting back like in the world trade center like so many different things. we can't be people that knew what was going on two weeks in california, probably months knew what was going on and didn't want to tell anybody. we can't be that. when we see violations, you have to report those violations and quickly. don't worry about profiling. i promise i will defend from you profiling. i promise. so when i started this whole quest, it's been an amazing thing. wherever i go i have packed

crowds. packed. dallas, 20,000 people. mobile, alabama, 35,000 people. here, every time i come to south carolina, north carolina, iowa, new hampshire, virginia, wherever i go, florida, we have crowds that are maxed. usually i do a double. i talk to them for a while, which i don't exactly like doing after the first one. there is unbelievable love in these rooms. i love you, too. stand up. thank you, thank you, darling. i love you, too.

>> oklahoma, 20,000 people standing in a park on quick notice. there is an unbelievable love. an unbelievable love of the country. we want to see good things. we don't want to be bad people. we don't want to be tough and nasty. we believe in the constitution more than anybody. but we can't let people use and abuse our rights. we can't let people kill us. they want to kill us. they want to destroy us. we can't let it happen. we just can't let it happen. i have a friend who is a very, very successful man. i went to one event. we had 24,000 impeachment he is a tough cookie, one of the guys i used to negotiate with japan, china. believe me you are going to be in good shape if that happens. we won't have these characters. by the way, i'm the only one self-funding my campaign.

i'm the only one. only one. i'm self-funding my campaign. these other guys, you know, they're getting millions and millions of dollars from people i know. i have one guy came and wanted to give me money. honestly, i can't take it. i don't want to do it. i can't take it. which is for me to not take money, my whole money i've been taking, taking. now i'm like, what am i doing? i said what are you going to do? i don't want your money. he said, i've got to go someplace else. they are like gamblers. but you like me best. i like you best, but i'm going to go someplace else. they want to be part. who is more mean? i gave millions to these guys. nobody knows the system better than me. i knew it from the other side. don't forget, i was the fair-haired boy. i was the establishment they would come to me, i would give them money. i would write check to senators,

whatever the max. don't come to my office. anybody that's a u.s. senator and calls me, we'll send you a campaign contribution. you foe what? i'll tell you something, in the end, the people that give these millions of dollars to these horrible corrupt pacs, they're corrupt. they totally control bush, rubio -- i won't say cruz because he's been nice to me. he's got to hit me first. once he hits me, i promise you. i promise you. i've been nice to christie but he hit me today. i don't know. he's a friend of mine, but he's not doing well in the polls and he really hit me today. he hated this. yet, he said anybody could come. look at some of the statements from the past. he really hit me on the whole thing with we have to stop the muslims until we find out what's going on. does that make sense, by the way?

he talked about that's an experience -- in other words, he has experience. that's the statement of an inexperienced man. the statement i made about we have to inexperience? chris is a friend of mine. he hit me hard. i have to hit him at least once. i won't do this hard. here is the story. the george washington bridge. he knew about it. hey. how do you have breakfast with people every day of your lives, they're closing up the largest bridge in the world. the biggest in the united states. traffic flowing, during rush hour, people couldn't get across for six, seven hours, ambulances, fire trucks. they're with him all the time, the people that did it. they never said, hey, boss, we're closing up the george washington bridge tonight. they never said it. they're talking about the weather. right? he knew about it. he knew about it. totally knew about it. he has a very friendly group of people over there that they -- look. it's called life. you have to be smart in life.

i would say there's less than 1% chance -- could be but i doubt it. he knew about it. they didn't mention at one of their meetings? i think they had breakfast every day or every other day. they didn't say, chris, tonight we're closing up the george washington bridge because the mayor of a certain area is against you. oh, okay. they didn't mention it. nobody believes that. nine downgrades. it's a disaster. i have property over there. the taxes are through -- i'll use an expression, coming out of my ears, okay. tremendous taxes over there. nine downgrades. you had christie, you know, so friendly with president obama during the flood. i actually called. i said, let me ask you, is he going to vote for obama? i thought he was going to vote for obama. i don't know. he possibly did. romney, i was very disappointed. one of the reasons i was

disappointed was he called christie and they had dinner right after the election. if christie did that to me, i would have never spoken to him again. i would have never done it. when chris talks about -- when he talks about lack of experience, i built this incredible company. i filed papers. everyone is saying, wow! that is unbelievable. i probably would have filed them if i didn't run because i built a great, great company. tremendous cash, tremendous aet cetera, tremendous net worth. very little debt. unbelievable cash flow. and i filed. everybody said, number one, he won't run. and i ran. i took a deep breath. i went, let's go, to my wife. we came down the escalator. the famous escalator. hopefully in many years that will be a famous thing because we will have turned around our country and that will be a positive note. hopefully. [ cheers and applause ] >> but -- then they said, oh, well, he announced. all these talking heads, most of whom are not even smart people,

believe me. then they said, well, they went to ivy league college. so did i. they went to this. most of them did go to ivy league colleges, by the way. they say they're brilliant. one is brilliant because he wears glasses. like perry. remember perry? but what happens, what happens, they say, well, never filed form a. that's basically where you sign your life away. i filed form a. then they said, well, he'll never sign his financial statement because maybe he's not as rich as everybody thinks. what they don't know, and then they said, and if he does, he'll ask for many, many delays because you're entitled to 45-day delays and delays. and he'll delay it until after the election. i said no. so i filed it ahead of schedule. and what happened? remember? they went down, they couldn't believe it. it was much, much, much better than anybody envisioned. i built a great company. and the reason, honestly, worth

billions and billions of dollars. remember that. low debt, great cash flow. the greatest assets, door ral, truch tower. >> trump doing whatever it is. robert costas joining us. let's talk about some of the political statements tonight. i'm going to somehow cut down on the internet to stop any kind of bad efforts by the terrorists to use the internet. how would you do that? >> it's an infrequent thing for trump to talk about on the campaign trail. talking about stopping free speech. he mentioned bill gates, cutting internet being exported across the border. >> new territory. >> the great firewall. in addition to the great wall of mexico. >> in any serious way could you curtail dangerous traffic on the internet and leave the free speech we enjoy to our people? could you do both? >> no.

absolutely not. what's he going to do? is he going to shut down the internet? you know, there's another world outside the united states that is completely and wholly independent of us. it's good rhetoric, but not going to work. >> back to the crazy -- not crazy but the political fire power. there is an act here that works. first of all, he decided to mow down governor christie by saying he knew -- less than 1% chance -- 99% that governor christie knew. the way he made the case was very convincing. he works every day with megyn kelly -- not megyn kelly, bridget kelly. they work together and have a meal together. you don't think he or she ever mentioned the fact that we're shutting down the bridge to punish the mayor of fort lee? >> he says he didn't know. christie has been rising in new hampshire. trump wants to hold on to new hampshire in case he loses iowa. >> on defense. >> he puts christie back on defense. exactly. you know, the pretext was that

christie attacked him today for his statement about keeping all muslims out. in fact, other candidates also attacked trump. he chose to go after christie, and i think that's the reason. i think he wants to bring him down a peg. >> he talked about the regular political people being on a different planet. i think i know what he's talking about. the political republican establishment and the democratic world of hillary clinton have left a vast opening in the middle for this guy. white working class guys, whatever they are. i didn't get a good look at the audience tonight, who they were. >> south carolina republicans, working class republicans. when he says different world, he's talking about finger-wagging republican establishment and he is saying i'm separate from that. >> let's go to katy tur. are you used to this kind of trash talk from him? >> i'm sorry. repeat that one more time. it's hard to hear you. >> i'm trying to couch this in the most politically correct way. are you used to the trash talk that donald trump threw at you tonight? >> i can't understand you.

i'm sorry, chris. to give you context of how this went down about the muslim bent he spoke about. he read from statements saying this is very serious stuff. i got done with it, and the crowd went wild. standing ovation. they do support this idea of banning all muslims from coming into this country. that does according to donald trump's campaign include people coming in on tourist visas. people who want to come and visit new york or washington, d.c., or the other various places. it also includes, muslim-americans, american citizens who might be abroad. i'm not sure if that means if they were abroad visiting family or abroad going on vacation themselves, whether they would be able to get back into this country. i am also not entirely sure if that means they would start to try to deport people or -- i don't think it actually could happen. it's certainly illegal and could potentially be unconstitutional. in terms of the muslim ban, that

is playing well with this crowd here in south carolina. >> thank you so much, katy tur in south carolina. it was very professional of her. i guess she didn't hear what he was saying about her. i'm sure she did. >> i'm sure she heard. >> what do you think, jay? >> he spent a good chunk of the speech going after the press. >> yeah. called them dumb. >> called them scum, scum, scum. look, attacking the press has been popular with the republican base for a long time. he is kind of doubling down on that. it's one of the riffs in a riff-filled speech that tried to hit as many buttons as possible. >> is malcolm there? the republican right, it's generally a common theme of theirs. they keep hitting the president for not using the frame radical islamic terrorism. he talks about it but doesn't like the phrase because it seems to imply that we're fighting a religion. why do they insist he use the phrase? simply because he won't use it?

>> no. i think they believe muslim itself and the tenets that are espoused by groups that they say like isis and hamas. they think islam itself is radical. isis is not radical islam. isis is a cult that is a segment that is completely unislamic. even though the muslim juris prudential organizations will tell you that. by using this dangerous rhetoric -- i need to say this. this endangers our service members overseas. that endangers our intelligence officers who are trying to defend us with our allies. this rhetoric is absolutely not going to play well in our allies' capitals but plays very well in raqqa, syria, where isis has their headquarters. >> thank you so much for joining us and getting that point through. thank you very much, gene and robert and malcolm nance.

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