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will. laquan mcdonald. >> i own it. i take responsibility for what happened, because it happened on my watch. and if we're going to fix it, i want you to understand it's my responsibility with you, but if we're also going tob gin the healing process, the first step in that journey is my step. and i'm sorry. >> meanwhile, the justice department is now investigating the chalk police department. they are looking at whether there is a pattern of constitutional violations there. we have live team coverage in chicago tonight. nbc's kevin tibbles is inside the protest. john yang is inside our chicago bureau. kevin, let me start with you. what are you seeing and hearing on the streets right now? >> reporter: well, they are still marching up and down the main thoroughfares in the city of chicago. they have already been to city hall. they have marched up the

magnificent mall which is the main shopping district, as you know, and they have sort of done a loop, and they went almost as star as link is not park, now they're marching back down into the downtown area. at its height there were probably 250, 300 people here. the march has diminished in the last half hour or so. there were a number of speeches, and people again have started marching down, but the real discussion here when they're talking about the healing process, that the mayor referred to, well, of course the people in this march today are saying that the only way the healing process can continue is if the mayor of chicago goes. craig? >> hey, tibbs, with regard to observe demands that the folks are making on the ground, what else are they asking for? or is this all about rahm emanuel? >> reporter: they're also asking

for the resignation of aanyona alvarez. she's the person they blame for the fact that this video of the police shooting didn't get released for over a year. so there's a lot of that involved as well. but frankly it comes down to a rights issue here in the city of chicago. many of these people today are young, many of them for example left high school early today. i have spoken to a number of high school seniors, you know, aren't even old enough to vote in this country, but talking to me about how they want to put democracy in action in the city of chicago. as many people know, the people in the south side of the city, for example, often feel that they are underrepresented in this town, people feel that that is the place where so much crime takes place, and yes they are underrepresented by the police force. and then all of a sudden, of

course, craig, things come to the forewhen there's an incident like this awful police sheeting that took place over a year ago, and it took over a year for the people in this city to find out exactly what happened when the 16 shots went off. they're talking about their rights, and they are also calling on the mayor to resign. >> last question here, tibbs, is this protest like the previous ones, have it always been largely peaceful, nonviolent? >> reporter: i can report to you positively on that. this has been a peaceful protest. i saw a couple of very minor scuffles that i would not even -- i wouldn't even bring up if i wasn't trying to think about whether anything took place. this has been a peaceful protest. as a matter of fact the people have been chanting that this is a peaceful process along the

route and while we are making our way back downtown, i'm sure you're seeing the amount of police presence on the streets here of chicago, the interaction between the police and the protesters has been very positive. i'm happy to report that it has been peaceful. >> kevin tibbles with the protesters there on the streets of chicago, kevin, do stand by for us if you can. i do want to turn to john yang. all day we've been hearing that the la quan mcdonald case has been a tipping point. can you give us context about what else is contributing to the protest? >> i'm sorry, craig, i lost the end of your question. someone got in my ear. >> in addition to laquaun mcdonald, the officers of course has been charged with murder, what else do we know about what is contributing to the protests

that we're seeing on the left side of the screen? >> you have seen so many cases. just in the past couple days, we had the dash-cam video of another police shooting released, ronald johnson, who was shot as he was running away from police just about eight days before la quaun mcdonald was killed. in that case, the state's attorney anita alvarez said he was not going to file charges, because the video showed he carried a gun in his hand. the video was of such poor quality, it's hard to say what does show up in that video. given the current state of distrust with police, that's been a point of contention. just yesterday, the night before, another security camera video from a jail that showed officers tasing an inmate, a

person being held, and then being dragged out of the cell, sort of limp down the hallway, he was taken to the hospital. he later died because of an allergic reaction to a drug he was given, but we have -- just today, going on -- as mayor emanuel was speaking, in county court, a highly praised supervisor, commander, is on trial for brutality charges. he's alleged to have stuck a gun in the mouth of a suspect and a taser in his groin. in federal court there's a lawsuit against another policeman who's alleged to have beaten up three women in a road rage incident. so this is just examples of why this anger has boiled over with the la quaun mcdonald case. craig? >> john yang, who has called chicago home for a very long time, thank for you that perspective, sir.

always appreciate your reporting. i'm joined by trymaine lee, and also ari mel better is also here, nbc chief legal correspondent. trymaine t. i know you've pentagon to some activists and organizers. what are they telling you? >> when rahm emanuel addressed the city council, there were moment when he seemed to become emotional, genuine in the idea there needs to be respect between the police and community. this was a moment to heal and he owned responsibility, but on the flip side, they say it's too little too late and only expressing it now, because it's all laid bare. with a string of cases we have seen and as john yang just said, there are cases in courtright now, but also a string of cases. rakia boyd, and so this is

nothing new, but when we step back and look at the bigger state of things last weekend i spent time with mothers who lost their children to gun violence, look at the clearance rate, 20-some percent of the homicides. >> 20-something percent, one in five. >> exactly. so when you think about not just the violence that they see committed from their neighbors, but the violence committed by police and that no one seems to care about these lives on either side of the panel. >> eugene, i spent time with spike lee in chicago, talking about his new movie, which you know looks at gang violence and gun violence specifically in the south side neighborhood. he was saying what a loot of folks don't understand about parts of chicago, it's like the wild west. for a long time people have been saying this and no one has been paying attention and a lot of folks feel like they have an audience. is that what we're seeing unfold? >> look, the protesters get the

whole idea, this is political dysfunction. that's the root of this. you need reconnection of the cops with the community. the irony is the community has been very willing to give the cops the leeway to do the work. they have not been unreasonable. they're making very reasonable requests at this point. they don't want to be abused. they don't want to be disrespected. so the challenge here is to stop the wrongdoing, but then we have to go beyond that and create a good relationships in the community, and that is has to be done -- i think the cops are operating in a vacuum. they need clarity. what does the community want? and there needs to be more of a coming together, and that requires political leadership. there needs to be more engagement and it's hard work to be block by block in the city of chicago, having a dialogue. >> i want to play another snippet for our audience, just another piece of what rahm emanuel said at this address

before -- a rare joint group of the city council. it was about a 40-minute address. take a listen to another part. >> if my children are treated one way, every child is treated the same way. there is one standard for our young men. all right one of the many moments, i get, he appears to get emotional, can he survive this politically? >> i tell you, i think it's yet to be seen. he just got back in office. he still has three more years. i think, you know, his standing especially in the black community had already been tainted and hampered because of the closing of 50 public high schools -- or 50 schools period in the high school. he was already hanging by a threat. today was the moment he was trying to say we can be one chicago, we can be better, but from the other side, he's done for for so many people. by the same token, he said something about the code of

silence. >> he acknowledged it, but also said there's no way we can expect the young men to break the code of silence if on the blue line, in the la gp kwan mcdonald case, there were five reports that we all saw, as this young man is moving away from police, shot down 13 more times, once he's on the ground that all those officers corroborated what seems to be a farcical tale, but because people are aware this has gone on unchecked for so long, seemingly, it doesn't bear well for him. >> the whole election explain was one big apology, so people will begin to wonder when will there be systematic change. >> jump in. >> it was so important, you played rahm emanuel, he was talking about these issues, i think why he's in such a difficult position, as wes look over these scenes, is that

nothing is new here. it's not new to the cops, not new for the community and we know it's not new for the oversight from rahm emanuel on down, because all this was known. when they goes out there and gets emotional. is he upset because of the underlying issues that your guests are discussing? or is he upset because his career is in trouble, craig? >> ari, as you well know. there's a state represent tif there, le shawn ford, filed for a recall election there. we have seen this happen a number of times through this country where mayors and governors have been recalled. for the mayor to be recalled, how would that work? does this have a chance? >> that's breaksing news, craig. i got ahold of a copy of that, as i was just writing up there is this proposal to recall rahm emanuel, i had to adjust the story to add the fact that

another democratic representative came on board. that's how fast this is moves. that is unthinkable previously. we're talking about democratic members of the legislature trying to undoing that pour stenchally their own big city mayor. chicago is a democratic machine from daly on back. the proposal you're asking about is basically two democrats who happen to be african-american in the state legislature proposing basically a cutoff whereby if there were 15% of signatures this could go to try to create a recall. it would take a big change in state law. >> ari, thank glue we should remind folks, perhaps we're not just talking about a democratic mayor of chicago. we're talking about rahm emanuel, the former chief of staff to president obama, a guy who many thought would ride in on a white horse and save the windy city. thank you all, as always. we will continue to track develops out of the chicago through outthe hour, but coming

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in fact be legal. >> these are people that are outside of the country, so we're not talking about the constitution. it's not about religion. this is about safety. >> we're not even talking about the constitution. >> today senator ted cruz declined to come out against him. >> should you be more assertive when donald trump comes out and says he wants to keep all muslims out of the country? >> look, i've said i disagree with that proposal, but it is amazing how eager the media is, the number one question is please attack donald trump, please attack donald trump. >> right. >> you know, i point out my approach is my approach to every other republican candidate. i'm not interested in personal insults and mudslinging. >> you can catch that interview on "morning joe" tomorrow morning. meanwhile, trump telling "the washington post" he will never leave this race.

also get a lot of front page reaction, "the new york daily news" depicting trump there. this one from philadelphia depicting trump as the new hitler, other papers striking a more conciliatory tone "detroit free press's" headline -- we stand together. new criticism coming from abroad. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu tweeting prime minister netanyahu rejects donald trump's recent remarks about muslims. trump is slated to meet with netanyahu in israel later this month. i'm joined by dana milbank and jackie kucinich. senior politics editor at "the daily beast." dana, donald trump reasonably smart guy, who is behind this?

what is he trying to do? in his heart of hearts, hess has to know it will never happen. he has to know it's illegal. what is he trying to accomplish with this kind of bluster and rhetoric? >> i can't begin to fathom what if anything if anything is in hi heart of hearts. one can speculate from the beginning he's trying to be the most extreme on the hot button issues that will fire up the most passionate and zealot segment of the primary electoral. he's certainly to do that, but to keep them in the camp, he's gotten ever more wild. he's finally reached a point -- forget about conservatism. i pointed out in my column, this is really fascism, not something -- that's not a term any of us use loosely. this is not part of a democratic system, never been a part of the

country to systematically discriminate on the basis of religion. so, you know, people have set before he's gone too far. what he's shown us that -- he doesn't care if it's constitutional. he's not operating on the same plain as the other ones are. >> beyond it not being who we are as a country? beyond that? it's also dangerous. we're going to talk about that? just a bit. today jeb bush telling reporters that his rhetoric is doing lasting damage to america and its allies as well. take a look. >> it's not going to help with the security of israel. it's not going to help the security of the united states. it pushes away allies that are necessary and essentially to destroy isis and to bring about security in the middle east. mr. trump's not a serious person. he's not a serious candidate. he's inflammatory, and he makes the task of the next president a lot harder. >> how damaging, jackie, is the rhetoric going to be for the next president of the united

states, democrat or republican? and how damaging is all of this? all of the rhetoric, all of the incendiary gobbledygook that he continues to espouse, how damaging will it be for the republican party long term? >> it's hard to say how this would affect the next president. we don't even know how far donald trump will go, but to dana's point if i can't, one of the things that hasn't happened is hess poll numbers going on. fox news released a poll where trump made -- he actually went up eight points in south carolina, so his group of people, the people that like donald trump, who are angry and scared are receptive to this sort of language. and so to your point about what this means for republicans and what this means for european allies, you saw david cameron react to some of the things that trump said. the british prime minister weighing in on an american

presidential primary is extremely unusual, and that's very, very telling. republican establishment types are really concerned. they said be. they're not really looking at the presidency at this point, they're alonging down-ballot, senate races, even looking at the house and seeing where they might lose seats because of the donald trump. so there is a bit of a not so quiet panic going on with some of your more establishment republicans who are looking at his strength and just putting their head in their hands. >> dana, there are a lot of folks out there who believe in their heart of hearts, they conspiracy theorists that a whole thing was a plan from the beginning, donald trump would start as a republican, drop out, he would run as an independent, he would sabotage the race for the gop to hand it on a ville ver platter to hillary clinton. i read their e-mails. what say you to that? >> well, if that with her plan,

he's done a pretty good job of t there's a basis for it. >> no, there's no basis for that. >> but a basis for saying why did he change hi mind? let's think about what he was in 1999. he was saying pat buchanan is a racist and intolerant. now he's outdone pat buchanan in any possible way. i'm not suggesting anything about this conspiracy theory. something made this guy change. i think it was something cynical in which he said, hmm, how do i compete, do well in this primarily? i have you have to the following positions and keep pressing these buttons over and over again. who knows if he believes it or doesn't. in a sense it doesn't matter, but it is very important because he's gone so far outside the position. he is doing damage to the country and we all need to call it out and say this is unaccept

able that's why they're bringing it to ted cruz. his 'being disingenuous. he's holding rallies with trump. violence against the islamic community here at home is on the rise. we will get a report on that from our discovery desk about what's behind some of the attacks on muslim americans. then fromle legal desk, an bur view with charlie sheen's ex-fiancee. how is she now responding? stay with us. this is msnbc.

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him for assault, battery and emotional distress. sheen is firing back in court for the first time this week with a counter-suit calling her a, quote, porn star, alleges that she's been extorting him and threatening to go public. i asked her about that new charge. is that true? >> no. they were the ones who offered me and my attorneys substantial money to be quiet based off of my abuse claims. >> ross says her suit is about serious abuse. >> charlie frequently would hit me. he would push me, kick me, drag me, shake me and choke me. >> the first time they met over twoiers she said sheen tried to silence her with a secret deal called a nondisclosure agreement.

msnbc exclusively obtained that very contract signed by sheen now public for the first time. >> this is your signature? >> yes. >> walk me through how you ended up signing this. >> he eventually offered $10,000 in exchange to see me, with the intentions of having sexual relations. >> so you sign it, and it's an agreement not to talk about him. so why aren't you following it now? >> because it was signed under duress. >> ross's lawyer agrees. >> it's abused in the entertainment industry. celebrities have individuals sign these before they ever meet him and the nda, as it's called, is completely one-sided.

>> sheen insists he told partners in advance. scott insists that she only -- >> i opened the cabinet, it was prescribed to his pseudoname. >> he hadn't told you. >> no. did he warn you about that? >> no. >> she says she honored the request, but worried about the consequences. >> i was terrified he would take this and believe that now he can freely have sex with others and not give it to them. >> ross believes she's not only advocating for herself. she says she hopes this could help others. >> i just hope that by crucifying myself and embarrassing myself -- because this is embarrassing, this is not something that you want in public. this is not a way you want to

game notoriety or infamy. if you are being isolated and abused more than you are loved, to stand up and have a voice, even if you're scared, because i'm terrified. >> sheen denies all the allegations. we also contacted his attorney, who did not respond beyond the filing that we joed, craig. >> so in that piece there, she says she signed that document under duress. how do you prove that? and what is that? >> we exclusively obtained this signed document that shows it. they say -- you say it on the screen. they say it was just an agreement to be together, to have companionship. they're basically denying her allegations it was for $10,000 for a sexual encounter. i spoke to several attorneys in california, who said the point of an nda can be to protect privacy, like it might keep you from writing a tell-all book.

it should certainly not bar someone who has legitimate claims of abuse or battery or physical misconduct from pursuing that in court. >> but she said she signed it under duress. how does she prove it was duress. >> that's one part of it. what i'm telling you, as a legal mart, the more important is whether this nda was about a illegal purpose. basically if you contract for an nda for something illegal, for a drug deal or prostitution, the courts will not come in and enforce that. this is something we're seeing more and more with both powerful people and corporations whether or not it was duress, it's the question of what it was for. we found in the nda $100,000 damages provision. why would you agree to that just to have a friendship with someone? you also, as i understand it, asked her about an allegations about a hit. >> that's right, she alleges in

this lawsuit she found text messages that she believed charlie sheen was actually having her ex-husband killed. so i asked her if she had the evidence to back it up. >> i discovered text messages between him and another celebrity that is known to have gang affiliation, and the text message insinuated that charlie wanted my ex-husband taken care of. >> do you have any evidence of any of that? >> yes. >> what? >> a week after charlie and i had dealt with these issues, my ex-husband text messaged me a photo at 11:30 at night in southern california from his security cameras. and there was a man in a ski mask with gloves and a hoodie and a box what could have possibly be an item that was intended to hurt him, and i

firmly believe that charlie had something to do with that. i just thought the timing was very strange. >> you believe that, but you don't know that? >> i saw the text messages. >> you have text messages of a potential plan or idea, and then you have this other incident of this person, but you don't have a connection there? >> i don't have a connection. if that were the case, why wait until now? she thought that charlie sheen was in fact trying to kill her husband. why wait until now? she said she was afraid. i asked her whether she had any evidence on the exposive charge. she said she really does, but? scenarios of domestic violence, we do see people who feel trapped. there's no -- that you stayed or exercised poor judgment. those are questions that the court will have to deal with. this is a case she alleges is about battery, assault and about

negligence with regard to his hiv status. sheen's side said this all began with they allege her trying to extort him to basically shake him down. that's what he announced with matt lauer. what's the next step? >> the next step is charlie sheen's lawyers trying to take this out of open court and back into private arbitration. they say that secrecy clause counts and a judge has to decide whether it stays in open court. more broadly, it is interesting to see potentially a test of what are often very onerous secrecy agreements that are on which negotiated with one side which has a lot of pour, and areas who have no information about their rights. >> ari mel better, thamelber. from that court to this court justice scalia saying black students may not benefit

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a sitting supreme court justice is drawing serious criticism for a comment he made about african-americans during arguments today. the high court was hearing the case of abigail fisher, a woman who says she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. as the justices listened, antonin scalia said this in part, quote -- there are those who contend that it does not benefit african-americans to get them into the university of texas, where they do not do well, as having them go to a less advanced school, a less, slower track school where they do well. we invited dorian ward, a fellow

at the roosevelt institute to join us for this discussion. we should note also for purposes of this conversation at least, he also graduated from yale as well, an ivy league -- >> a state school like the u.t., and then yale, yes erchlts so modest. just your initial reaction to what we both read. >> two things. you can read what he said as wanting to go back to a pre-brown v. board of education, meaning we should have black students attend black colleges, or less are colleges in some way, because clearly they can't make it at the highly selective schools. secondly the social science -- that's an opinion, by the way he drew from amicus briefs. the social science studies that have looked at this question, how do black and latino students

perform, they find that they actually perform even better at highly selective institutions relative to lesser schools, as justice scalia would say, because they've had to perform at a higher level to get into those schools their entire lives. >> absolutely. >> what we did read there, though, i felt like was a variation of other arguments that we've heard from conservative justices, especially on the supreme court, with regard to this idea, you know, we're really helping black people. they don't really want to go, they don't need to be in these schools. we know what's best, because we're the supreme court. >> it's a pernicious argument that's been floating in circles for a long time that affirmative action hurts minority students, and there's never any rigorous evidence to suggest that. if you look at the data on where top scientists come from? sure maybe numbers 1 through 5 are historically black colleges, but when you look at the entire list, the vast majority of black

scientists, this is fact against what justice scalia said -- the vast majority come from highly selective institutions, harvard, stanford, m.i.t., yale. so when you add up the numbers and not cherry pick something that fits your prevailing world view, the evidence in terms of justice scalia is not on his side. this is the common argument, affirmative action actually hurts the people you help. >> scalia said this, one of the briefs pointed out that most of the black students don't come from schools lie university of texas, but lesser schools where they don't feel like they're pushed ahead if classes they feel are too fast for them is that what you would expect to hear. >> if you have justices who believe that black people are genetically inferior in terms of the brainpower, yes. >> we'll leave it there. dorian ward, yale's finest, we should note. we should know that the reverend al sharpton was inside the supreme court tonight.

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