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ixty-five million dollars. and bringing love where it's needed most. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. bernie sanders apologizes. >> good morning. i'm jonathan capehart. the democrats debated last night in new hampshire. there were some heated moments and the candidates had a lot to say about the sanders camp pain data breach. we'll have more from new hampshire in just a moment. donald trump emerges at the top of even more polls. does he have the ground game to win iowa. washington pulls off a rare example of bipartisanship. not everyone is happy about it especially the republican
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presidential field. we'll also look at the new attack on hispanic voting rights. and do you have the right stuff? captain mark kelly will be here to talk about nasa's search for a new class of restaurants.hill sanders called somewhat of a truce over the database controversy. nbc's kristen welker is in new hampshire with more on how this controversy played out in last night's debate. >> good morning. it was a night largely dominated by foreign policy and the fight against isis. but the controversy over the sanders campaign inappropriately accessing the clinton campaign's voter files loomed large. in addition to firing one staffer, the campaign has now suspended two more. >> so i apologize. >> eager to put the data breach
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issue to rest, bernie sanders quickly apologized. not only do i apologize to secretary clinton but to my supporters. >> clinton agreed it was time to move on. >> because i don't think the american people are all that interested in this. >> the debate pivoted to an issue many voters are interested in. foreign policy with clinton seizing the opportunity to slam donald trump's controversial rhetoric. >> he is becoming isis' best recruiter. they are going to people showing videos of donald trump insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. >> clinton came under fire for sounding an optimistic note on isis. >> we now finally are where we need to be. >> republicans pounced. jeb bush saying we are not where we need to be. bernie sanders arguing she's weak on national security. >> secretary clinton is too much into regime change and a little bit too aggressive without
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knowing what the unintended consequences might be. >> sanders and clinton clashing at almost every turn. shngets corporate america love hillary clinton? >> everybody should. >> and will corporate america love a president sanders? >> no, i think they won't. >> there were some heated moments. martin o'malley hitting his opponents on gun. >> the flip-flopping political approach of washington -- >> let's calm down a little bit, martin. >> let's tell the truth, martin. >> and some levity. clinton a few seconds late after a commercial break. >> sorry. >> the democratic front-runner surging in the polls showing a little bit of swagger with a memorable closing line. >> thank you, good night and may the force be with you. >> secretary clinton went into last night's debate with a 31-point lead over bernie sanders. and by all indications, there
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was no major shake-up last night. >> the voter database controversy wasn't the only hot issue. sparks flew. here's sanders making the case that some taxes are good investment. >> the legislation is is $1.61 a week. now you can say that's a tax on the middle class. it will provide three months paid family and medical leave for the working families of this country. i think secretary clinton, $1.61 a week is a pretty good investment. >> clinton distanced herself from the president a bit on the syria strategy and was pushed over her no-fly zone proposal. >> isis doesn't have aircraft. al qaeda doesn't have aircraft. so would you shoot down a syrian military aircraft or a russian airplane? >> i do not think it would come to that. we are already deconflicting air
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space. >> isn't that a decision you should make now whether -- >> no, i don't think so. >> if your advocating this? >> i'm advocating the no-fly zone both because i think it would helpous the ground to protect syrians. it also gives us some leverage in our kfrgconversations with russia. >> joining me is ron insana, former republican congressman from new york nan hayworth. thank you for being here. we have to start with secretary clinton. she had a strong debate. you heard her on the defensive over the no-fly zone. she may have made another gaffe in describing the fight against isis. let's take a listen to that. >> i wish we could say, yes, let's go destroy isis and let's let assad continue to destroy syria which creates more terrorists, more extremists by the minute.
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no, we now finally are where we need to be. we have a strategy and a commitment to go after isis which is a danger to us, as well as the region. >> where we need to be. should the clinton camp be worried over her foreign policy stance, and particularly that answer? >> i would say that answer was taken somewhat out of context. she talked more broadly about the united nations resolution in which they loorking for a political negotiated solution to the assad regime and some sort of power sharing down the road with those who oppose him inside the country. while attacking isis at the same time. to say that we're where we want to be, we are with respect to the united nations resolution that passed 15-0, we're certainly not there when it comes to defeating isis, per se. >> i see you are still shaking your head what ron said. you make a good point. she said now, finally, we're
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where we need to be, and the we is not just the united states but the world. and especially what ron was talking about. the u.n. resolution, plus france and britain. >> hillary clinton has been an integral part, or was, for many years an integral part of the administration that got us to this point. she has also been inattentive in crucial ways when she was in a position in which she could have had more influence as secretary of state. we've not empoured the sunni allies whom we should have in the middle east for years. we need to have more support for our allies, like jordan, friendly leaders like the king of jordan, like saudi arabia's leadership that needs to be more responsible and more involved. we've got a lot. the kurds, whole cohorts that
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we've ignored. >> have we really ignored the jordanians and saudis and our middle eastern partners? >> we haven't ignored them but one of the big problems with these types of debates is there's so much empty rhetoric and you don't get follow-up questions. the question you're asking this morning is the question the interviewers last night should have been asking hillary clinton. what do you really mean? that's never clear. especially on foreign policy issues and on issues of terror and warfare. these candidates make these comments, one way or another, including shooting down russian planes or whatever that have nothing to do with the real world and what a president would do if he or she was faced with that situation. >> there's a certain monthology about what the u.s. can do in the wake of the arab spring, which we're on the ground grassroots revolutions that took place starting in tunisia and
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spreading to egypt. the u.s. may have a role but certainly cannot control the outcome of some of these things. the president may have said or may have articulated too strongly u.s. positions suggesting that if bashar al assad gassed his own people we'd go in and blow him up. that was a mistake because that's so-called red line. it made no sense because it wasn't something we were likely to do. most people assume we somehow could have controlled these revolutions. we're not in this position. we just came out two of wars in which we didn't control the revolution. >> we could have better empowered in ways both covert and overt, if you will. friendly allies understood, but we could have done more. and with the iranian nuclear deal, we've significantly worried friendly sunny muslim
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populations in the middle east because that's a shia regime. >> to something you were saying earlier, bob, with these questions on foreign policy, the questions are simple. the answers are complex. and in a minute, 90 seconds, there's no way you could have in your answer the conversation you all just had right now about what's happening in the middle east. let's bring it home a little bit and talk about martin o'malley. let's play this clip again on martin o'malley, gun control and the reaction from senator sanders and senator clinton. >> excuse me, no, governor, we have to abide by the rules here. we'll call on you shortly. >> there was passed comprehensive gun safety legislation with a ban on combat assault weapons. you know what we did in maryland? we overcame nra's objectives, all of the crowds coming down there. we did our own rallies and at least if we enact these laws in
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a prospective way, we can address a major vulnerability. isil videos. isil training videos are telling lone wolves the easiest way to buy an assault weapon is at a gun show because of the flip flopping political approach of washington that both of my two colleagues have represented there for the last 40 years. we need common sense gun -- >> let's calm down a little bit, martin. >> yeah, let's tell the truth, martin. >> what i love about that intersacinte interaction it was focused on gun control, gun safety legislation but governor o'malley has done other things that the democratic party base wants. not just gun control but minimum wage, same-sex marriage and a whole host of other issues. so if the governor has actually done what the democratic party base wants, why is he mired in third place and being lectured two by two people who have only
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talked about these issues but not done them. >> what does his record as mayor of baltimore and as governor of maryland tell us? unfortunately, baltimore is still in turmoil. the people who live there who need a break and need a better life are not getting it. blatantly are not getting it after decades of failed policy. none of the candidates on that stage last night offered a really innovative approach that would make if they believe in government doing it, that would make government more effective. each one of them. >> i'm not sure i quite agree with that. martin o'malley was talking about gun control furst. there was a desperate quality there poopts almost like he'll grab on to any issue that might get him a little bit of attention. if you want to talk about gun control in this country, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are not your targets to use a bad pun, i guess.
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they should be focussing on the republicans. it's the republican party that has stood in the way of serious gun control legislation in this country. >> i happen to be in favor of the australian model. take the guns and buy them back. >> it worked in australia. >> it never happened in -- >> it will not stop isil terrorists from doing -- >> how many isil terrorists are going to american gun shows -- >> talk about control. i've got to take control of this panel. we've got to go. we didn't get a chance to show the amy poehler clip playing hillary clinton again. bipartisanship scores a big win in washington but not everyone is happy about democrats and the gop working together. those details are next. th
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we'll get to -- back to politics in a moment. first a developing story in kenya where an air france flight made an emergency landing early this morning after a suspected bomb was found midflight. here's what we know. the plane was headed to paris from m awe ritius. a marriage noticed something that looked like a stop watch mountod a box. they are questioning six passengers, including the man who reported it. this is the third air france plane diverted in recent weeks because of security concerns. we'll bring you more information as it becomes available. now back to washington and a rare display of bipartisanship on friday. democrats and republicans coming together to pass a $1.8 trillion
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budget deal and avert a government shutdown. >> as we end the year, by any objective standard, it's been a year of significant accomplishment, and i want to thank the democrats who did cooperate. >> the achievement was also praised at the president's year end press conference. >> we've gotten kind of used to last-minute crises and shutdown threats and so forth. this is a messy process that doesn't satisfy everybody completely but more typical of an american democracy. and i believe speaker ryan deserves a role in that. >> even though the democratic president was ready to praise the new republican speaker of the house, the democratic front-runner wasn't. if anyone needed more evidence of why the american people are suffering at the hands of their own government, look no further than the budget deal announced by speaker ryan.
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it also came from candidates who still have day jobs like senator marco rubio who skipped the vote and argued it was just as good as voting against it. >> look at this omni bus. this grotesque piece of legislation. that's the kind of thing that shouldn't be happenin inging. not voting against is it just as much a vote against it. >> if it seems rubio and ted cruz don't agree on much, at least they have the funding bill. >> this is mitch mcdonnell and paul ryan passing the democrat agend afunding obamawear, amnesty, expanding low-skilled immigration so we're driving down wages, costing people jobs. it's an absolute betrayal. it's why people are furious and frustra frustrated. >> we're going to bring back the panel. ryan lizza has a new article how
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big oil and nancy pelosi defeated the house freedom caucus. this is paul ryan's first big test and he got a failing grade. not a good start. nan, you are shaking your head again. is this a harbinger of old bad things coming back to the house of representatives under speaker ryan? >> on fiscal issues, the house freedom caucus is exactly right. >> what? >> they are exactly right. but they're not going to get what they want right now. and the problem we have is that as has been the case for years, we can't have a circular firing squad among the folks trying to represent the conservative -- fiscal conservative agenda as best they can. >> i'd rather deal with this from an economicic erspective.
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if you look at sequestration. the fact we're getting back to a better balanced budget at a time when the federal reserve just this last week raised interest rates for the first time in a decade and fed policy will be slightly less friendly than it's been over the last six years you need some relief on the fiscal front. this is not a time you want to be passing austerity and have the fed normalizing interest rate policy. you need some offset to what the fed is in the process of doing. it's been a while. this fiscal tightness has had a real impact. it's really restrained it for the last few years. >> ron took the economic analysis. give you the opportunity to do the balancing political analysis. >> the political analysis. i think this is another example of so many in the republican party being really out of touch with the american electorate.
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and the party has been going down this road for a long time and almost as if they have a death wish. just one quick example is the way the party has treated the issue of immigration and their approach to hispanic voters. if you just look at the numbers and demographics and look at self-interest, the republicans are not paying attention. >> if you look at state houses and state legislatures across the country, they've gone republican. the challenge we have right now in terms of passing legislation must pass legislation like these budget resolutions or continuing funding of the government is that the republican majority in the house, and the majority in the senate which is not a 60-vote majority have to deal with president obama. we can't pass anything unless president obama is accommodated. >> chuck todd has speaker ryan on "meet the press" this morning.
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>> we don't agree on much. we see things very differently. i think what we will probably try to do is where we can get things done, where we can find common ground without compromising principles, get those things done, make sure that government works, but we're going to have one heck of a contrast in 2016. >> to my mind, that's a breath of fresh air over the last seven years. the house freedom caucus will not like that, nan. >> shame on them for not forming a unified front with paul ryan and saying we understand what we face in terms of systematic obstacles. legislative obstacles. we'll work with speaker ryan to craft the best legislation we can. is it perfect? no, but it's the best we can do. >> the best we can do is real governance. when everybody is upset about it, it's the right piece of legislation. >> it's really scary when speaker paul ryan is considered
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a breath of fresh air. >> after the last seven years of washington to have a speaker of the house who can get a budget passed, it's great. former space shuttle commander captain mark kelly is here to tell us it's not too late to join the space program. no, really. stay with us. the nation's capil to support an important cause that can change the way you live for years to come. how can you help? by giving a little more, to yourself. i am running for my future. people sometimes forget to help themselves. the cause is retirement, and today thousands of people came to race for retirement and pledge to save an additional one percent of their income. if we all do that we can all win. prudential bring your challenges®
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commercial spacecraft or pilot nasa's orion deep space exploration vehicle or maybe even be part of manned missions to mars. here to tell us more about nasa's new hiring program is retired space shuttle commander captain mark kelly whose twin brother scott is nine months into a year-long stint on board the space station. thank you for being here this morning. >> you're welcome. >> so what sort of qualifications is nasa looking for in its applicants? not that i'm asking for myself, but just curious. >> the typical applicant -- the typical person that's selected, we get a lot of applicants, maybe 6,000. the typical selectee is somebody like me who is a military test pilot with a graduate degree in my case in aeronautical engineering or ph.d. scientist like a chemist or physicist or a
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ph.d. engineer or engineer with a masters degree. also folks with a lot of experience in those fields and have done well. >> that leaves everyone on this set out in terms of applicants. once they are selected, what will the interview process be like? >> it takes about a year and a half. they are collecting applications through february. they'll get upwards, last selection when that was the class joined in 2013. there were about 6,000 total applicants counting civilian and military. they eventually narrowed that down to eight people. eventually it includes for the people that continue, it includes a week-long interview. i think it's done in two parts now. you spend a lot of time at the johnson space center. a week-long physical with interviews at nasa. and ultimately they'll pick a very small group of new
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restaurant astronauts. what advice would you give applicants? >> when they are little kids, what i tell them normally is they need to go into a field they really like so they can do well at it. if their ultimate goal is to be an astronaut you have to come from one of the typical astronaut backgrounds. science, engineering, a little mathematics, the military, including mostly test pilots like myself and my brother scott. >> so there's a possibility that some of these applicants will participate in a mission to mars. what's it going to take? what's it going to take to make a mars mission possible? >> so i was at nasa in the astronaut office for 15 years. i think that's a little on the long side. my brother when he gets back from this flight he'll have been an astronaut for 20 years. if we send that first crew to mars in 2035 like nasa wants to,
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it would likely be someone, at least the more senior people would be people from this class we're going to select the next time. that would be an incredible experience to one of these young people in this nation right now that are thinking about applying. a mission to mars would be incredibly challenging and a difficult thing to do. it would also be incredibly rewarding not only for that individual but for our nation. >> you mentioned your brother scott. i was going to ask you, how is your brother scott doing up there on the international space station? >> considering he's been in space for 9 1/2 months, he is doing remarkably well. sometimes i think he could go another year. he probably wouldn't agree with that. he gets home on march 2nd. but he's doing really great. he has an unexpected, unflanned space walk next week. it may be as early as tomorrow. he's getting ready for it. a little failure on the outside of the space station they have
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to correct before a soyuz spacecraft can dock. he has to go out and do this unexpected repair. >> captain mark kelly, thanks for coming on this morning. >> you're welcome. next, why donald trump's huge lead nationally may be masking some real troubles for the gop front-runner. gotta take a sick day tomorrow. dads don't take sick days, dads take nyquil severe the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
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just one other thing, i've got to get this off my chest. donald trump is a jerk. >> well, that was jeb bush yesterday during a town hall in iowa. what he called a moment of self-therapy and part of a sudden aggressive pushback against donald trump. trump is still at the top of the latest polls. but there are new reports that question his ability to make it all the way to the nomination. "the new york times" reporting this morning that his campaign is struggling to mobilize caucusgoers in iowa and doesn't have a well organized ground game in the hawkeye state.
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steven shepherd also wrote about trump this week in an article titled "trump's soft underbelly" writing trump's lead in national polls at this point of the campaign is hardly predictive of a glide path to the nomination. even if he maintains that edge going into iowa, there's evidence the caucuses can scramble the race, even if the winner doesn't become the eventual nominee. for more, we're joined by steven shepherd. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. >> trump was on "meet the press" and chuck todd asked him about iowa where ted cruz has caught up in the polls. take a listen. >> i'm doing really well with evangelicals who i love. i'm doing really well with every group, the tea party groups, everybody. i can only speak for myself. we really have a good team in iowa. we'll see what happens february 1st. >> your reaction? >> well, look, evidence of trump a ground game in iowa is difficult to say. the iowa caucuses are a low
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participation event. fewer than 20% of all registered republicans in 2012 took part. it ended up being less than 6% of the overall iowa electorate. the number of registered voters participated. you need to go for the entire evening on a cold night the beginning of february and spend a significant amount of time. it's not going to vote at your polling place and then going back home. will donald trump get people to do this for him? it requires the ground game that the only evidence we have is that i've got the best ground game and it's going great. >> one of the cases you make is iowa could be a stumbling block for trump where cruz is surging. others are counting on new hampshire to keep their campaigns going. trump is doing fine there. so why is iowa such a big deal for him? >> well, donald trump's entire campaign seems predicated on being a winner. he's a winner.
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these other guys are losers. i've won. we don't win enough. if he comes out of iowa and finishes third in iowa, that's going to ding his campaign a lot. we can go back to 2012 at this point. newt gingrich was dlooing well iowa. that didn't work. 2004 with howard dean on the democratic side who at this point in the campaign, iowa was a couple of weeks earlier than this time around. we headed toward the holidays, howard dean was ahead nationally in iowa. he fell short in iowa and that stunted his momentum. a lot of the campaign we look at south carolina and new hampshire and nevada. these states don't happen in a vacuum. iowa happens first. you can gain or lose momentum by what happens there. >> we'll bring the panel in. trump also responded to the jeb bush is a jerk comment about an hour ago on "fox and friends."
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>> he's a sad case. it's been very sad to watch him. that's a sound bite given to him by his pollster. the way he said it. let's see, i'm supposed to say he's not no gravitas. he's down to less than three in the polls. >> is this going to be effective in iowa? what happened to iowa nice? do they like this sort of thing? >> the whole issue about the ground game is really important in iowa. but two things strike me. one, we pay too much attention to the polls, period, in general, which is the only reason we're talking about trump all the time. and the second thing is why are the caucuses in iowa so important to the election profits in the united states in any event? it's not representative of much of anything in the united states. >> zero really. >> real fast, one more question before we have to go. what are some of the other warning signs for donald trump going forward? >> you look at, he's still a
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polarizing figure among republicans. his favoritability ratings are 50%, 60%. 60% of republicans are supporting another candidate, even in these polls. he's a polarizing figure. he needs to get all the republicans behind him in order to win the nomination. right now that seems difficult because there are a significant chunk of republicans who just don't like him. >> 43 more days before we get real voters voting. steven shepard, thank you. still ahead, two years after the supreme court gutted the voting rights act, there are new efforts to suppress minority voting rights. we'll tell you where. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪
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to restrict voting. "the new york times" tells the story of pasadena, texas, a deep dive into the history of hispanic voting rights. the strategies being used that he writes about are many and it's hard to do them justice in this space. his reporting is raising new questions about whether the local republican establishment is actively trying to suppress a growing minority of untapped voters. a minority who could soon be a majority. joining me is brett wilks. thank you for being on. the supreme court is considering a case that would dramatically shift voter representation. instead of counting total population, states would only have to account for the number of eligible voters to determine
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representation. what kind of impact could that case have? >> that would be more devastating than getting rid of section five. that would undermine the strength of latino voting and cut the congressional spending caucus in half and devastating to minority communities across the country. we see that as a very serious threat. >> in a recent interview, eric holder reacted to a question about voting rights challenges in the obama era. here's what he had to say. >> for all that we thought that would mean, the election of barack obama, and it's meant substantial positive things, but it's also galvanized the opposition in ways that i think i was a little surprised by the intensity of the opposition and the ways in which the opposition
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operated. >> brent, do you agree? have you been surprised by the intensity he talks about? >> i'm not sure if surprise is the right word. there's been a lot of intensity and pushback. but i honestly would have said we expected that. i think the fact that we had the first -- the nation's first minority president elected. many said this is the end of ris discrimination. that's not the case. you've seen this active effort by eliminating section five and states trying to pass these restrictive voting laws. instead of playing fair and allowing one person, one vote, they're trying to game the system. we call it cheating. they are trying to get people electd who don't have the majority support of the communities in which they are supposed to represent. >> we have a map of the states with the voting restrictions.
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what is your organization doing to fight these voter restriction efforts and what are you hearing from the latino community specifically? >> on the one side, we actually are engaging on these lawsuits. we're providing briefs or leading the suits. the problem with eliminating section five used to be the justice department would preclear these states moves like this. in the case of these lawsuits, most of the time the restrictive voting laws go into place. damage is being done, even if we end up winning. the elections took place before. it's a serious problem for us and we're fighting case by case but at the same time, what's really important is to ensure despite these new laws we're continuing to register voters and continue to do the things we
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that bomb scare on board an air france flight. the airline's ceo speaking at a news conference says the suspicious device was a false alarm. the flight was diverted to kenya after a passenger noticed something that looked like a stopwatch mounted on a box in the plane's lavatory. we'll bring you more information as it becomes available. ben carson is currently making headlines for canceling his upcoming trip to africa citing security concerns. a senior campaign official claims the cancellation is not related to carson's recent slide in the polls that many are attributing to his apparent
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weakness on foreign policy. carson has plummeted to fourth place in the latest poll from fox news with just 9% of gop primary voters' support, a 14-point drop since october when carson was neck and neck, donald trump. carson's first apparent slip came in last month's debate when he incorrectly said the chinese had intervened in syria. carson's top two advisors admitted to "the new york times" that carson had struggled to master the intricacies of the middle east and national security and that intense tutoring was having little effect. the paris attacks and san bernardino shootings have shifted the national conversation primarily to terrorism and foreign policy. so is that the cause of carson's downturn, or is there more? i wrote about this last week and i quoted harvard professor leah rigair who argued race is integral to carson's fall but not in an explicit sense.
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"as the only black candidate in a largely white party you have to be extraordinary and not just in one area like brain surgery or neuro science." my conjecture was the thing that made carson a serious contender is the thing that's brought him down. my contention is race. bob, i'll start with you. do you agree with me? you agree with that premise or am i out there on a limb? >> i think that that's part of it. the race thing. that's republican voters could have a little bit of cover on the race issue. but the other thing is that he came across as a nice guy. i think indicates our overreliance on the polls. carson was never going to be the gop candidate. i don't think anybody on this panel believes that and the first opportunity to have a reason not to vote for him vees peop these people answering the polls hopped off the train. >> there is a discerning primary electorate out there, there are
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thoughtful republicans like me who are looking at these candidates. it is not because i do support carly fiorina but if you are looking for someone who is not foreign policy within the government but also understands foreign policy intimately, carly fiorina if you compare her comments to those of dr. carson are much more detailed and much more expert. dr. carson is an impressive man but he's shown his limitations. >> much more solidly deliberate on carly's part. >> she led the external affairs committee for the cia. >> but look, we do have someone who also has no foreign policy experience and -- >> president obama, as a matter of fact. >> no, i'm talking about donald trump. donald trump has been -- >> fair enough. agreed. >> yet he is number one. >> important point is that trump comes across as a strong man and ben carson never appeared to be a strong figure. >> right. >> i think "the new york times" piece was fatal for him.
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when your own people start to submarine you in the middle of a race and say that you cannot learn, i think that's beyond damning. i think that was the beginning really of carson's decline. i think that that in many ways if your own people won't support you in the press, you're kind of dead anyway. >> it would be one thing if he came back from that story and didn't have a tentative performance, at best, in subsequent appearances but that's all he's done. >> "the new york times" story was damaging, but then also there was his speech to the republican jewish coalition which was also i think equally bad. i mean you don't go to that group and deliver what's the equivalent of a middle school classroom presentation on middle east history. but again, i keep coming back to the fact that yet you still have people in this race who are just as bad as him who are leading in this race. ultimately do you think when people go to the polls, will we
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see a reorienting and that the less serious people fall back and the more serious people come forward? >> if you design donald trump as less serious, i think he's unique in the regard that he has no experience, he has said things that are wildly inaccurate, and yet he has a solid base of support within this process thus far that has been part immediate wmedia-fuel. the kardashian candidate, as bob was saying during the commercial break. he does have a broad, deep popularity, even though those of us who have dealt with him in the past know what he's really like. when you get away from new york, where if he's at the u.s. open he gets roundly booed when he's on the jumbotron. no one else in the country realizes that. >> on that note, we have to leave it there. r thank you for getting up with us today. up next is melissa harris-perry. joy reid is in for melissa.
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this morning, my question -- is martin schirelli finally getting acquainted with a little thing called karma? plus the race factor in 2016 politics, but not the one you expect. and the sports person of the year. but first, the democrats throw down in manchester, new hampshire. good morning. last night's democratic debate was one of the last opportunities of the year for candidates to make their case before the nation on a nationally televised stage. it wasn't exactly the biggest of stages given its placement in the television
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