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woman's life has changed. she knows at that very instant things will never be the same. >> think about the, they worked so hard for that one moment. >> yeah. >> can you imagine what it feels like? >> just the rush. >> when it comes at you. >> great for the people of columbia. just the whole nation rejoices. >> whole nation jumping up and down and screaming. this is for a lot of south american countries, i'm told is as big as a world cup. of all days we felt like what a story. >> here's what happened. there's a little a wait moment.

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philippines. miss philippines, take your first walk as miss universe. >> are they going to take the crown off her head? if this is done on purpose, that is mean. >> there she is, she's going to do it. steve, it's not like you didn't have 14 minutes to read the card. >> the right thing, i can show it to you right here. the first runner up is columbia. it is my mistake. >> really? that was good.

>> please don't hold it against the ladies. >> we hold it against you. you're the one who screwed up. you had 14 minutes to read the card. >> woe. >> she's got to wear that thing now? can we call this the end. can we just end it now. >> what are you doing? >> i hate pageants. they're so dumb. >> at least donald trump brought class. >> at least an apology or something. >> steve harvey is a goodman and funny man. >> this is not funny. >> no, it was an honest mistake. steve harvey apologizing on twitter saying he apologizes.

>> ask donald trump. >> can you co-- >> there are miss universe choosers who say that was planned. >> donald trump i'm sure took this quietly. >> i saw the end of homeland last night and the chaos at the end of the pajt was just as compelli compelling. i'm not telling them anything. season five and season one. here's the only spoiler. she doesn't go home. >> don't. >> i'm saying last season was a great season and then it was itchy and scratchy.

>> donald trump did retweet a question as soon as he sells the pageant it goes off the rails. we need you mr. trump. >> can you imagine what today would have been like if donald trump were still running the pageant. hold a big huge press conference, a thousand press people there, he would call steve harvey the biggest stupid loser ever. he would say i'm going to pay him money to go back to school and he would name her good will ambassador. that's a trump touch. >> okay. >> yes and then the poll numbers would go up.

>> we have in washington with us washington anchor for b.b.c. world news america caddy kay. >> they gave it to miss watford instead of miss oxford. >> we've got so much to get to. here we go. the third democratic debate was saturday night in front of the crowd hillary clinton, bernie sanders and donald trump was referenced to nine times throughout the whole night. the only g.o.p. candidate to be called out on the topic of isis. hilly clinton called trump the best recruiter. >> we also need to make sure

that the discriminatory messages trump is sending around the world don't fall. he is becoming isis's best recruiter. they are going to people showing videos of donald trump insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical judiihadis. >> it's just another hillary lie. whether it's trips where she's gunned down in a helicopter. she's a liar. she made this up in thin air. >> did she? it appears to have not been true. >> it's possible it happened.

>> more likely galaxy. >> speaking of encrypted iphones. i don't know if anybody saw the apple thing. why did apple decide to do that? they own the world. i don't understand why they would, it was fascinating for us as viewers but what did apple get out of slave labor and suicides and all this other stuff? >> i think because they're apple, it was fascinating to watch. i don't know why they did it because the second half is brutal. >> all right. we take rest. it was clinton's assessment of the american progress that turned some heads. >> we now finally are where we need to be. we have a strategy and commitment to go after isis which is a danger to us as well as the region and we finally have a u.n. security counsel resolution bringing the world together to go after a political transition in syria.

>> she said last night we're finally where we need to be on isis. >> we're not. >> oh my gosh. >> with dead bodies in paris, with dead bodies in san bernardino and no plan on how to deal with it, mrs. clinton is mrs. happy talk and wants to hat happy talk her way to the presidency. it's are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? >> not a great weekend about hil hillary clinton. she made up the stuff about trump. she takes friday as if john kerry hasn't existed over the past several years. >> she referenced her work with trying to get a resolution done three years ago and indicated finally it was passing friday and never mentioned the

secretary of sta secretary of state. i read the transcript. >> i don't think it was a bad weekend for her. she laid down nomination in the general election. sanders did not break through and as you referenced, the ratings weren't high. >> there isn't a nomination fight is there. >> you had an american party take every measure they could. it was football dwgames and opening night of star wars, holiday season. seriously, if you had worked any harder to not get people watching your candidates debate, you couldn't have done it.

>> yeah, and isn't the next one on a sunday night too. even worse. at what point do they call out the democratic party and the clinton campaign? it's because the process is really disappointing. >> there's no nominating press. everybody's decided bernie sanders has had this brief run where it looked like it was going to give her a contest and that seems to have faded and hillary clinton is almost presumed to be the democratic nominee at this point. the debates are still worth

watching. that's why these debates are worth watching. >> i was going to say it's fascinating the dnc isn't hiding which side its on. the minute they have a chance to defend hillary clinton they go all in. >> i am also uncomfortable about hillary clinton's campaign saying she's a victim when she has data issues. i don't know if breech is the word but not following policy to the point of covering whatever.

>> i guess it's really powerful. >> hillary clinton is a great candidate. don't put your people on sunday morning. show up, be in the game. get better. you don't know what donald trump can stir up if he wins. >> being in the bubble, mika, you can see it. when hillary was pushed to the wall a couple of months ago she fee finally started getting better. she's been in a bubble again and getting more inside the bubble and now making things up in debates and taking credit for what john kerry has been doing for months, years and we're seeing a return to some of the worst instincts because she is the candidate in the plastic bubble. >> new polling of the democratic

field taken before saturday night's debate shows a tight race in two of the new polling greats. they have bernie sanders just five points back of hillary clinton inside the margin of era. in new hampshire sanders is ahead of clinton by 14 points. that's a seven point swing in his favor since november. >> maybe other people are noticing. >> i think so. i'm the only one who says it and then she doesn't show up. she should. at this point if you can't take us. >> it's not about us. >> before i saw those, this is the question i was going to ask you. he's leading big in new hampshire. what does that tell you?

this is not a coronation. if bernie sanders competes or wins iowa he's got a race. >> a lot is driven by the fact joe biden has been removed from the polls. so you see an increase in hillary clinton's poll numbers but it's not come at the expense of bernie sanders. i think the tougher question for sanders is even if he wins iowa and wins iowa and new hampshire does he have the infrastructure you need beyond there? his campaign still remains significantly less funded than hillary clinton's. that's not the say he can ride a big wave. >> mark, you said it for some

time. hillary could lose iowa and new hampshire and these polls show that. >> the night of iowa trump will be the biggest story no matter what happens. he'll either win or lose iowa. sanders, you know, this is an unpredictable year and sanders is close enough in these poles, you just don't know what the enthusiasm gets. the democratic low rated debates is part of the guided enthusiasm problem within the party and sanders may have a bigger turn out. the clinton people can't know she's going to win. >> so let's look at the new polling on the republican side that shows donald trump's lead growing since last week's fifth g.o.p. debate. it shows trump hitting a new high at 39 pe%. >> plus 11. carson minus nine. >> the poll also shows

republican primary voters feels trump has the best chance of beating hillary clinton in a general election by a margin of nearly 30 points. they also say trump is known to be commander in chief. he's the top pick in this category at 31%. that number up 12 points since last month. despite his strength other candidates perform better than trump when all voters put their match ups with hillary clinton. >> that's the thing. we can take that down. all registers voters don't vote. one out of three or four vote. let's go back to the original poll. a couple of things to say here. 14 points. can you put that back up? he's up by 11 points here. marco. >> 21 points.

i think there's two things going on now. first of all, they're in denial about trump's support in the establishment. their big thing is they're doing a lot of polls but the voters won't vote. the other thing they're not in denial about which is a big problem is four establishment candidates fighting hard in new hampshire are dividing the vote and no one can catch him if he's got four established candidates. they all got a claim on that says i need to stay in because i'm the one who wants to stop it. >> in cbs news a new poll has

trump up 31%. >> it's becoming an extremely exciting race. we have a lot to talk about. we will play that for you. jeb bush says his place in the polls is a relief and then he goes rogue and attacks donald trump out of the middle of nowhere. it seems like an awkward last minute desperate jab but maybe it's not. we'll see. plus we'll talk to kristin about how trump is being devicive

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this next item, our stories for the run down has slugs on them. this one is called unhappy warrior. over the weekend jeb bush made some surprising comments. just out of the blue and random. didn't make sense with what he was asked about. about his place in the presidential pack. he took a shot at the front runner in what you might call an unguarded planned unguarded

moment. >> some of the people supporting you and been wondering about your campaign say that in this resent mode why you've been more vocal about donald trump you found your voice. >> it is liberating to be able to post up against a guy not qualified to be president and so share your vision about the better way. >> six months ago people thought you were the front runner. >> i hated that. >> you hated that? >> yeah. i feel much better back here. i always thought there was going to be a high expectation for me because i have a brother that was president and a father that was president. that higher expectation was important to realize. so being a front runner made me feel people were going to begin to say this guy is dancing right through this. i have to go earn it. i have higher expectations on me than people have of me.

it doesn't bother me a bit that the expectations are high. i want to win which means you garner momentum when it matters. >> just one other thing. i got to get this off my chest. donald trump is a jerk. a guy like that should not be the front running candidate for our party. i feel better now. i gave myself therapy there. >> you didn't like that? >> no. he's probably the best candidate, right. it's just awful. it's too late. >> what's awful? >> it's five months too late. >> damn it. >> we're in late december now. you get 45 days for christie to

find his footing, bush to find his footing, rubio to show up and start working, maybe for rand paul to get a chunk. you understand the entire, they have 45 days. if there were four years ago, it would be all over. i would say trump is going to win it all. you got 45 days. 45 dayins is a lifetime. >> jeb bush had small crowds and the people there appreciated his message but he's going to have to expand his support. the fact he's taking on trump is smart for him. he believes it and no one else is doing it his way.

but if you're looking at momentum and projecture and a strong closing message in new hampshire christie right now is well positioned to do it. he is the best brawler in the race and this is going to be a brawl. >> can i ask you about kasich. >> we all have to go back to iowa back in 2007 and 2008 and just like a horse race, the two horses bump off and there goes john kerry flying ahead of everybody. >> it is the case even with 45 days to go as we head towards the holidays, new hampshire and i are voters narrowing down to people would tlook like winners. you got to come into the new

year. >> there's no doubt in iowa it's all cruz and trump. it looks like it's chris christie right now that has the most momentum there. this race though, you go to south carolina and the other states, it is starting outside of new hampshire to almost take the form of a two person race between donald trump and ted cruz. >> you have the primary also happening in the process. it's hard to come up with a state, an individual state where marco rubio is the clear front

runner. everybody knows what a cruz or jeb voter looks like but a rubio voter, anybody could be or nobody could be. i think the challenge he's got is where does he win? that's a message christie has been hitting on long before it was the poplar message to hit on. >> if there's a state built for chris christie, he's going town hall to town hall and talking to the people. he's good.

>> didn't he have the morning show bumped. he said i'd rather be lucky than good. it's exactly what he's going to say in january about cruz, rubio and trump. those other two guys are still trying to figure out what they're going to say. >> the campaign in new hampshire on the republican side is going to be very interesting. its giving christie's tempo and tener as a candidate. mark indicated he's a brawler and going to go after it. >> i think the sprint home in january is going to be an incredible one.

>> so. >> wow. >> he's a jrk and goes back saying dumb things. also says start using your last name. don't be ashamed of your last name. >> he said he's embarrassing the bush family. my question is why is trump bothering to go after bush? does he think he's a threat, wants to warn anyone who attacks him. >> here's the thing. think about this. >> you got to apologize.

he like i can't, it's just not me. we're all sitting there thinking it's horrible. you can't just fight everybody. you can't fight everybody. the last debate, the scales came off my eyes and i was like wait, nobody's attacking him. nobody's punching back. he's unscathed. you know why? because it's an asymmetrical response. do not attack, if you're marco rubio, do not attack donald trump because you never know what's going to come out of his face. like hillary clinton, do not attack hillary clinton. >> donald doesn't play by the rules. everyone telling him to apologize like me. why does he go after jeb at 3% of the polls?

he sends a message. if you attack me i'm going to destroy you. >> i think the republican party has a problem because trump might be the best bet to beat hillary but the question is do they want trump? >> no. i raised a lot of my eyes last week when i said there would a lot of people rather hillary clinton be president than trump. haley would have to say that's not true publicly but the republican establishment, that's not even for people that know how washington works that's not a close call. the republican party will split in two if trump is the nominee. >> they don't have a plan to stop him. >> did you see the snl, the two hillary clintons celebrating trump? just ahead. >> it's important in iowa, that may be the case.

>> still ahead this morning marco rubio showed up to vote against it. that's what you do. that story ri's ahead. we'll be right back.

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yeah, we ran a study with about 2,500 republicans last week. we seen all the variation in the polls and trump doing almost 20 points better in some cases online and on the phone. all based on interviews of who they're talking to or how they're being interviewed live or online. we talked to 2,500 republicans and varied how they answered the questions and found trump does about six points better. >> six points better online because there are some people that don't want to admit to a live human being on the other side they're voting for donald trump. fascinating enough, you did find a bradley effect with ben carson where he did better in live interviews than he did in the privacy of on line polling. >> when we looked at the polls the last couple of months and

carson was ahead a few points. >> this is the biggest difference for online for trump. not much of a change for the other candidates. the other two main findings we had here is the deference in the trump support was driven highly with people with higher levels of education. >> they don't want to admit. >> they don't want to admit it. >> when you're typing on the computer you're more willing to say so. tim figured out by the end you take obama's numbers in exit polls and subtract by eight and that's where the night ends up.

what's so fascinating to trump is they may be embarrassed they're voting for trump. we're seeing online it pops out. >> and you hear that antidotely. >> the argument is all these people that say they support him, the trump campaign is not organized enough to get through the caucus. what do you read in the iowa polls? >> what we did was asked about the 12 questions and how excited you are about the election and whether you vote before. when we looked at this, trump's advantage was higher online than by phone. it suggested there's differences and the type of interview suggests that either those eager highly engaged individuals are going to go support trump. another implication we had which

brackets off the points, they might be understating how well trump is doing. now we talk to a national example of voters. we seen a cruz serge in the last couple of minutes. >> we look at how ma lineals feel, 300 young adults, this is what they found. half of those polled have an unfavorable view of trump. meanwhile, 46% said his proposal to temporarily ban them from entering the united states. trump trails hillary clinton in a match up among these ma lin l lineals. does that surprise you? >> none of that surprises me.

>> the problem for -- republicans need to focus on winning in they need to have a general election doesn't turn out in the republican primary itself. >> one time we were speaking at a college. they said you're young. you're listening to the same stations we listen to. why don't you advertise? because you don't vote. if lawrence were still on, i would be running adds wall to wall because i know if you're over 60-years-old you're going to go out and vote and if you're

under 30, you're not. >> i'm still finding support among young voters for donald trump. i did a piece last week looking at millennials who support trump. they said they don't tell their friends they support them and describe themselves as closet trump supporters and the other thing they said was they don't like the ban on muslims but they support trump anyway. there are elements of what he said they don't like but they like him so much they forgive his more extreme statements. >> on friday, before the 1980 election, jimmy carter and ronald reagan were in a dead

heat. >> there were millions of people voting for a b list actor. there's the same possibility with donald trump this year. not so much in iowa where organization has came but in every other primary state. >> look at the electorate and they're worried about the safety of their kids and the future of economy and say which is matching the fears? >> and bringing us back to where we've been. >> trump's message and biography match up with a ton. >> think about myth romney and

his car elevator. he had to be embarrassed. everything was upside down. trump shows up on the plane and says i've got a bigger one, by the way. >> his iowa speech was his opening line. >> it's. >> i just flew three hours on a big fat beautiful jumbo jet to iowa. >> that was his opening line. >> he said i am a car elevator. >> i'm sorry. >> how do you explain that? >> he's broken everyone in the book and criticized iowa voters for being stupid. you would never thought a candidate could get away with doing that. time and again things donald trump has said, this is the one where he's gone too far and it just hasn't happened. it hasn't, now, look. there's many cases in american history where you have an incredibly rich candidate and voters seem to love it. i've seen that before unlike in europe where we would hate it.

>> george was absolutely speechless. he didn't know where to go next in the interview buzz it went off into a place you couldn't even, you couldn't go on. >> we're going live to nbc news who captured every moment and we're going to talk about putin, trump, bro mamance, week two. you're watching morning joe.

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looks like jeb got his colonel back up. he's ready to take a run at trump. >> trump? this guy's the chaos candidate. is he for real? no, man. >> jeb, you're a nice man but you're basically a little girl. his real name is jebra. >> that is not true. >> that is true, yes, it is. jebra. hey jebra, losers say what. >> what? >> oh my gosh. i can't even. are you guys done with that?

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>> great news for those of us. >> he had it coming. >> he said he's tired of being a punching ball. >> punching bag. >> g.o.p. pollster is with us still and joining the conversation on capitol hill jeremy peters. >> now the polling showing donald trump's lead growing and a new poll shows trump hitting a new high at 39%. that's up 11 points since last month. ted cruz picks up by four points and marco rubio slips by three and ben carson loses half his support dropping down the fourth

place. trump has the best chance of beating hillary clinton in a general election by a margin of nearly 30 points. they also say trump is the most qualified candidate to be demander in chief. >> let's go back to the first slide. usual he we call these beauty contest. i wonder if you're up six, seven months if you have an 11 point momentum while your main opponent two months ago is minus nine and the guy they said is going to win it is minus three. at what point do you sop being compared to giuliani? >> even steve harvey couldn't mess this up. people have to stop acting like

being at 40% is a small lead. >> how can the establishment continue to kid themselves? they've been telling us for six, seven months this is going to disappear. at what point do they say this is not going to disappear. the nuclear war head is heading towards the heart of the republican party and we're going to have to start going to death con five? >> i heard from new hampshire resignation for the first time that maybe he can't be stopped. i talked to supporters that support chris christie. even those people understand his

appeal. >> the people around this table and things that offend so many people, voters actually are smart must have to know he's never going to be able to do that. he's painting in broad strokes and they know he's never going to be able to can that. the courts would never let him do have the things he says. this is a guy that's going to be more aggressive in sopping what happened in san bernardino from happening in des moines and manchester. >> i want to get a can up l of other stories in here first. a tracking poll has trump in first place, 18 points ahead of cruz. in iowa it's cruz in the lead

and the texan has serged 19 points since last month and leads trump by nine. senator marco rubio. >> can i ask quickly? iowa again we've heard he's not converting the big crowds into support. >> i think the jury is out on that. there's some evidence he's not converting like 1-1. i think trump's operation is big and he has yet to go on television. >> senator marco rubio facing criticism after missing friday's vote on a $1.1 trillion spending bill. they passed the legislation

65-33. rubio publicly credited of the bill. he's the only member running for president. he's not in washington to vote on the package. after the bill passed, senator rubio's campaign released a statement saying leaders in washington cracked at the trillion dollar spending bill in secret and unveiled it during the debate tuesday night. marco had 48 hours to review 2,000 pages of spending. senator rubio's missed budget vote caught the attention of one of the bill's more vocal opponents. fellow republican presidential candidate chris christie also called rubio out on the missed

vote. >> they pass a $1.15 trillion spending plan and one of my opponents in this race says he's completely opposed and will do everything he can to stop it and it doesn't show up. i mean senator rubio, listen. if you're going to say you're aposed to something, how about showing up to vote and voting no. that's the minimum you have to do. >> his dad is out there? very cool. so jeremy, we've been hearing from rubio, can't win an early state, who cares. not a lot of visits to the state, who cares. missing a lot of votes, who cares. it seems like a risky strategy, doesn't it. >> it is. that seems to be coming from the campaign. it's okay guys, it's cool. we got it under control. we're going to win somewhere. it's not a big deal he's missing

these votes. he has a lot of smart people working for him. the problem is they're not telling many people what that strategy is and that is leaving an opportunity for people like christie, for people like trump and cruz to come after him and say look, he's not showing up, he's not doing the work. wi why does he deserve your vote? >> they have one field office in iowa. >> that's exactly right. i think part of that, they would argue is they are running a campaign that is much more suited to the 21st century and the realities of modern campaigning and this day and age it doesn't matter how many offices you have but how many you're connecting with online. like i said, it creates this opportunity for people to hammer him for not working and i think after a while that starts to stick regardless of the reality. >> especially with the done nor class. >> we don't want to overstate

that position he's in. you could argue he's in the best position of anybody in the race. i know if you voted four years ago, six years, you're going to vote this year. i'm going to find out who you are, i'm going to come nong on your door and have people drag you to the photo booth. that wins elections.

>> a lot of them difficulty towards marco rubio. again, anyone in the race but cruz and trump it may be the best bet anybody has right now. >> now to the scandal involving bernie sander's staff, two sander's staffers have been suspended in the campaign's national data director fired. the firewall on a server belonging to a vendor failed on wednesday. documents reviewed by nbc news appeared to show four individuals affiliated with the sanders campaign accessed proprioritary clinton material. they reacted by shutting off sander's access to the data. sander's campaign blasted the move saying it would cost 6,000 dollars a day in donations. their access was restored but

not before creating ugly exchanges and a friendly primary. >> they downloaded that data and tried to get an upper hand over the clinton campaign. it's unacceptable. for somebody who said they were going to run a different kind of campaign. they're like kid not candy store. there was one individual who first realized it and extended permissions to three other staffers and went hog wild downloading as much data as they could get in 25 minutes. >> the leadership of the dnc has used this incident to shut down our ability to access our own information. information which is the life blood of this campaign. the leadership of the democratic national committee is now actively attempting to undermind our campaign. this is unacceptable. individual leaders of the dnc can support hillary clinton in

any way they want. they are not going to sabotage our campaign. one of the strongest grass root campaigns in modern history. >> mika, this is such an overreaction by the dnc. it looks like such an inside job. the only person that has helped in this process is bernie sanders. everybody knows they're running a grass roots campaign. it's a bottom up campaign. small donors and this is fixed. >> it feels like the dnc robbed the core. >> it seems like the sanders

campaign, whatever they do, they do. the reaction is so over the top. >> what they did was totally inappropriate. >> i hate that word. >> they went in and tried to look at and think about taking data. >> i agree with that. may i ask you something, mark? is it inappropriate to get your own server? >> yes, it was. >> totally inappropriate. beyond inappropriate. i feel like people like you sometimes have like some sort of weird fear of saying that hillary clinton has done something completely inappropriate perhaps against policy or perhaps for, no, i'm serious. everyone shuts down. look at this.

>> you never heard me say what i think about her using the private server? i think it was horribly wrong. >> did hillary clinton lie on stage saturday night about donald trump being an isis recruiter? >> she was wrong. i'm not going to say lie. it was wrong. none of this is anything to do with the fact that the sanders campaign might have gotten a huge benefit, they would have seen her targeting of voters in iowa and new hampshire in a way they could take advantage of. if hillary's campaign went into that era and explored it, it would be the talk of the world. >> by the way, we would have been killing them.

it's the fact she said something wrong. >> it doesn't justify what the sanders people did which is totally wrong. if my people did that, i would fire them in a second. >> which is what he did. i will say the clinton people should be smarter than this to know they don't need to be talking about e-mails and data and things like that. >> they're trying to use this to undermine his reputation. they know if they yooz to iowa and new hampshire. >> doesn't it look like the process is more rigged with debbie. >> yeah. >> so you're exactly right. the sanders people, what they did is completely wrong. the over reads actually ends up hurting hillary more than those that committed the offense.

>> it looks like the dnc is putting a finger on the scale. >> that's exactly what we were saying. >> it's not fair to hillary clinton to make this about the dncs over reaction. the initial thing that set this off. >> can i clear something up? i think the dnc and hillary clinton's campaign is getting in the way of heroining. she's actually one of the most fabulous candidates i've seen at times, especially in new hampshire. >> with our backs against the wall. i sit there and i'm dumbfounded at how easy they think this is going to be. >> it looks like an inside job and you don't want that in 2016. >> i again would vote for her.

i'm just saying. i'm trying to be transit parent because i know how this is going to be read but everyone else at this table agrees that the dnc and watson is playing this. every step of the way. >> in the end, the irony ends up hurting her in the general electionment. >> and in may if they continue to reach her more in iowa. >> and old politics. >> old politics. >> hopefully, it will still work for her. still ahead on morning joe, he called president obama feckless weakling. yet years later everyone's pointing out christie's hug with the president after the campaign trail. you're watching morning joe. i'll be right back. oohhh. oh, holiday ferris wheel. i kind of love it. look at those reindeer. jeffrey, you're awfully quiet back there.

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>> i just come from across the street where matt louer interviewed donald trump. he wants a public apology from hillary clinton. >> he's a stickler for facts. >> number two, donald trump former owner of miss universe calls for co-miss universe held at a quote beautiful ceremony, columbia is crowned again and they share the honor. >> can we get a breaking news banner zblp thank you. give us. >> the pajt maybe someone who can read it. >> there it is. >> yes. there's the breaking news.

there's the breaking news, my fleends. >> one of them is going to win. it's like their life. >> what's the. >> it gives this girl the crown. they read the card wrong. >> they took the round off of her on live television. >> we'll stay on top of this breaking story. >> we will. >> can someone go down to trump tower? >> let's go downstairs. >> hey, guys, i know.

cringe rooting moment. not many for chris tisty up here. he's been out on the bus tour trying to build moomentum. momentum. he is, you're seeing object trail a very comfortable candidate in the type of politicking that new hampshire likes to see. that close contact retail politics getting in with people one on one shaking hands. we were with him at a sports bar here in new hampshire. there's answer interesting moment. this hug he had. it was a surprise to him. the pilot said joking lee he

thought that moment lost republicans the race in 2012. i want you to listen how they responded to that. >> he said governor and he thought this was the day republicans lost 12012. >> no republicans lost for a lot of reasons. i did what a governor is suppose to do. the president came to help people of my state. he came and extended his hand to me and said he wanted to help the people in my state. my job st. governor and what the american people should have learned that day about me is they get a chance to meet these presidents. he said i will always put their interest ahead of politics.

>> he didn't back away for the moment he was criticized as. that's the slogan printed on the side of his bus there. the other thing, it allowed christie to talk about his leadershipment this is something he campaigns on constantly talking about he is taking shots at for example, senator cruz, senator rubio and taking shots at jeb bush. the question is if this is going to be enough to get him where he needs to be in new hampshire and if he's not where he needs to be come february 9th, what happens to him after that. >> thank you very much. >> greatly appreciate it. and jeremy, you're heading up to new hampshire. what are you planning to work on up there? >> well, marco rubio is starting first day of a three day tour up there. he's going to have his family with him for this trip which is something we haven't seen yet on

the trip. his four kids and wife. i think what i'm going to be looking for as mark mentioned this earlier is how do you create a nonviable nontrump lane in this race. if you add up the su ports, it's somebody who can beat trump. right now, there is no way you can possibly beat trump. at least looking at the polls now. i'm curious to see how that shakes out. >> all right, thank you so much. by the waybi willie, i saw the bottom of the scroll star wars breaking every single record. >> can you believe we haven't had that yet. just like i didn't spoil the end of homeland, i'm not going to spoil the end of star wars. i took jack early saturday morning. if you're a star wars fan, it's incredible. i've got to say i had a chance to talk to bob ieger a couple of weeks ago about it and said my boys want to know how's the movie and he said look at the

star. daisy, she's incredible. >> she was extraordinary. it just, the whole thing. i can't wait to talk to you about it. i walked away from that movie. she and adam. there's so many great actors in that. jay jay abrams also, it wasn't like the computerized gong that the prekwauls were. this was real and shot on 35 millimeter. this young woman was nothing short of extraordinary. >> that's the first thing i said when i walked out. i said that woman is about to be, it's like decaprio and titanic. it's going to blow up. >> tell me whether this is an overreach or not. this was a transit formative roll for a woman. sort of the margaret thatcher effect where i always said you never thought of margaret thatcher and thought oh, she's a woman who happens to be prime

minister. she's a prime minister. >> now the question is do they catch avatar? >> they're going to blow past it because they had summer block buster numbers in december. it just doesn't happen. iger also said their biggest problem early on was she had not been in much of anything before except for an acne commercial in britain so they didn't have a lot of stock photos for her. for her to come out of nowhere and deliver this sort of for r

performance. >> my daughter went at 12:30 at night. around the clock they're showing it. who does that? it's too late. >> a 6:00 a.m. showing was just getting on saturday morning and they were flowing out. >> that's crazy. coming up, during the last g.o.p. debate he said we've entered world war three. presidential candidate rick santorum joins the discussion. morning joe will be right back.

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hood attack, the guy associated himself as a christian pro life. so it's what you said not exactly accurate, is it. they are all muslim and we have to be very, very careful in having and we were talking about the comment about not having proper screening.

>> so many muslim americans are extraordinarily wealthy. they make up 10% of the doctors in america. how do we work and at the same time we're stamping out islamic radicalism and how do we reach out aggressively to let muslim americans know they're every bit a part of the american dream as you or me. >> what are they going to do to reach out to do to confirm they are con frants. >> are you suggesting, rick, that 95% of muslim americans are come police it in the acts like san bernardino. >> no one's suggesting that. the bottom line the this. there are muslims in this country who are doing that and going out and trying to

establish a reform islam and trying to deal with the problem of that of islam. there are many organizations like care continuing to apologize for the radicals and have influence and in both of the last two administrations to not bring islam not out of the seskt century, bring that version of islam out of the seventh century and do something to move a reform movement. there's a friend of who has been the biggest voice but there's lots of muz lems out there that has tried to confront the cancer and the bottom line is most of them are not and that's a problem. >> most muslims are not confronting the cancer. >> no. they're not out there in the world and even here in america, most are not. most are not. >> why aren't you working on

white men with guns? i mean come on rick santorum. you know better. you're a smart guy. you're telling muslim americans they all need to come out and talk about the tiny percentage of their community that has kind of quiet frankly wreaked havoc. yet you look at the data of white men with guns wreaking havoc on this country. why don't you call on them to do that? >> i'm doing a lot of things about trying to solve gun violence and that primarily focus isn't on the family. >> like being against people on the terror watch list. >> if you look at the folks causing crime in america, almost every single one of them and i think chuck pointed this out that 85-90% of men in prison grew up without a father in the home. you want to get down to the real root problem, you got a break down of society based on the break down of a family.

pointing to the object is a ridiculous thing. the gun is not the problem. the problem is people are being raised in a society without proper leadership in their home. that's a problem i've had for quiet sometime. you said he chooses to be truthful, the president, and we have a leader that chooses to be truthful about the threat we're facing in the middle east. what specifically is the president of the united states not being truthful about? >> well, i start with iran. iran is a radical theology that is fixated on bringing about the end of times to fulfill their eska tolg. we have never heard the president talk about who iran is and what their objective is and why they're pursuing a nuclear weapon. none of that is discussed. the same thing with isis. the fact isis has established a

cali califit. how would you defeat a califit? all these things ignored by the president. just the opposite by not confronts and telling the american public the truth, we in fact keep america in the dark and don't have solid policies to actually confront the detruks of a califit. not giving a nuclear weapon to abunch who want to bring about the end of the world. those are things that are simply not telling the truth to the american public. >> senator action it's willie geist. you said the first thing isis wants is not to invade syria. a lot of people were critical of president obama saying that's what he's not doing. he's going to take some ground

forces there. if this is, in fact, world war iii, why take that off the table? >> two of three things. number one, i said we need more ground troops in a rake and take that territory back and we need to be much more directly supportive of the curds making sure they have adequate resources to fight the battle we need to have a much heavier presence where we can support sooney iraqis in taking back that land. i'm not going to be shy at all about attacking isis and taking back their land. my concern is about having a heavy american presence in syria and bringing american troops into portions of syria. there's a particular town in syria and isis is sort of eska tolg and there's a way to attract people to their cause in the islamic world and we don't want to enter into that game. we need to be much more cautious

in syria. >> all right, rick san or the up, thank you for being would you say. we would like to have you back and ask you how we're going to get americans back to work. obviously, we had some things on our mind. coming up next, is donald trump giving voice to fears of terrorism? >> we're going to talk about how the fear after 9/11 led a texas man to shoot three immigrants. morning joe back in a moment. blm here's a little healthy advice.

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you write in part this. trump didn't generate the con tich juan si with a few brash statements. he garnished feelings of ali allineation of being silenced and gave them a respectable. even if trump leaves the stage by springtime he's gathered and given voice to all these americans. this is how trumpism might outlast trump by jelling this anxiety and moving a movement to give permission to question of whose american by redrawing the borders of respectable debate. >> that's how he has done and also a phrase in there that's caught my eye is when you said he's not saying what he belie s believes. he's saying what they believe. >> the character of him is this is a guy that will say anything. this is a wild man. wild men rise and wild men fall. when you watch the crowds, he's

right. those are large crowds and they are feverish, excited, they're stabbing their fingers in the air when he's talking about banning muslims and you start to wonder even if he has his crash, those people are still our fellow citizens. >> he's saying not what he believes's saying what they believe. >> and he's channeling and organizing beliefs that i think come out of a sense of fear, anxiety, the tricerrorism stuff. >> it's nativism. i don't feel like i belong in my own country. >> yeah. >> clearly you've been there, you've seen some of the crowds. so clearly trump through whatever magic he has within him, and it's part of magic, he's reflecting what people feel. and do you get the sense that a lot of public people, candidate, unlike trump have not yet addressed the india inner an gc

angst that literally their economic roofs collapseded? >> if there is a constructive thing to take from him, it is the diagnosis, not the prescription. so he's understood a certain pain, he's understood a certain fear. i heard the president last week in the news conference, you know, it's very intelligent, but it did not speak to a visceral place in which you are afraid your kid would get shot in the face or you are afraid that your husband will never find work again and will start to find the anger out on you. millions and millions of people are living in a set of fears among terrorism and a much longer set of fears around the economy, particularly men, particularly around the immass could you lags of not working as much as you want to work. >> and to some extent this is just an american phenomenon. we've seen the same thing in

france with the rise of the national front, a time of fear and people tap into that emotion and often provide a scapegoat. one thing i'm asked around the world, to what extent is trump driving this sentiment that seems to be zen phobic and to what extent is he reflecting what is already there. 68% believe islam incompatible with the american way of life. is he leading them, is he driving them, is it there already strong? >> i'm not a scholar of islam like rick santorum, but my understanding is these are sentiments that are out there and he doesn't invent the sentiments. but someone in his position organizes them. it's a diffuse set of sentiments

and i think someone like him says here are the three things that this is about. and you start to see public opinion coalesce around that short list of problems and escape scapegoats. so 44% of people in north carolina saying we should ban islam as a religion, which would raise a few first amendment issues. and i don't think that he generated the impull impulses that, but he gives it a focus. >> and all this ties into a book, tom hardy will star in the movie. and it talks about several incidents right after 9/11 where a white drifter in texas kills three clerks at a food mart basically and then mercy that is shown afterwards. what are the lessons we take away from that story? >> well, he shot three. two of them died. it was a very similar moment to today. there was a lot of similar

anger. he was saying the kinds of things donald trump is saying in his own private rants and he went to these three gas stations and shot three people, but only two of them died. the third one survived. and the survivor, very devout muslim working in this gas station, trying to get in on the american dream, eventually many years later forgives mark in the name of islam arguing that mercy in the koran compels forgiveness. and fights to save mark strohman's life in texas. so it's not a single thing any more than being a white man or a woman is a single thing. and we needs to understand that there are the good and bad elements within all these things. and to actually go in and prop

up the voices who are saying islam is mercy. >> all right. the book is "the true american, mercy and murder in texas." we're back in just a moment with more "morning joe." ok, we're here. here's dad.

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colombia! >> you know, willie, there is something about the drama of a beauty pageant where in an instant a young woman's life is changed. and she knows at that very instant that things will never be the same. >> we have so much news this morning. >> think about the -- i mooean they work so hard for that one moment. can you imagine what it feels like when it just comes at you? >> and great for the people at colombia. the whole nation rejoices. >> whole nation jumping up and down and screaming. this is like for a lot of south american countries, i'm told, this is as big as the world cup.

and there are a lot of people saying what would the first year be without donald trump at the helm. went off without a hitch will, right? >> well -- >> we don't always open the show with pageants, but what a story. >> here's what happened. there is a little, oh, wait moment. just a teeny one. >> folks -- there is -- i have to apologize. the first runner up is colombia. miss universe 2015 is

philippines. ♪ miss philippines, take your first walk as miss universe. >> awkward. are they going to take the crown off her head? >> they don't do they? >> if this was done on purpose, this was really mean. >> there she is. she's going to do it. don't do. do it later, right?

just let her go back stage. steve, it's not like you didn't have 14 minutes to read the card. there are like four words on there. >> here he is taking responsibility. >> that really doesn't help. >> the right thing, i can show to you right here. the first runner up is colombia. it is my mistake. still a great night. please don't hold it against the ladies. please don't. >> against the ladies? no, we're not. >> you're the one who screwed up. you had 14 -- >> oh, no! >> she has to wear that thing now? can we he said it now? i hate pageants. >> you know, willie, at least donald trump brought class to it. >> please god tell me -- >> steve mar have i harvey is a

and funny man. he apologized on twitter saying it was an honest human mistake, okay, it was. problem is he misspelled the philippines and colombia. he later deleted it and posted another one. >> oh, he high schos misspelled. i get to. >> there is so much news to get to. >> i'm more of a ca-- >> was that-can you choreograph d stup stupidity? >> the truth is out there. >> you you can't get that wrong. >> so donald trump i'm sure took this quietly. not. did not wallow in the shear stupidedity and has chaos. you know, i saw the end of homeland last night, instead of this pageant, and the chaos at

the end of the dchaoda passenge passenger event-efrnts . >> i'm not telling you anything. only spoiler, she doesn't go -- >> no! >> i'm just saying last season, a grats seasoeat season and it scratchy saying can i have more tea. >> there is so much news. >> donald trump did redefeat a message that said donald trump must be overjoyed that as soon as he sells the pageant it goes off the rails. we need you. >> can you imagine what today would have been like if donald trump were still running the pageant? hold a huge press conference on fifth avenue, unless r inside of trump tower. it would call steve harvey the biggest stupid loser ever and he said i'm going to pay him money to go back to school and learn how to read english.

he's a humiliation. miss colombia, come here, and they would name her like one of the -- >> goodwill ambassador. >> see that's -- that's the trump such. >> yes, and his poll numbers would go up. >> where have you gone donald trump, the nation turns its lonely highs to you. >> major hot political news to get to. we have in washington with us catus -- >> it actually happened to her. >> mika, can we get on with the news. >> oh! >> so we have so much to get to. so here we go, the third democrat being debate was saturday night. >> oh, wow. a lot of people had to watch that, right? >> but this front of a traction of the crowd from the most recent republican debate,

hillary clinton, bernie sanders and martin o'malley squared off on foreign policy, gun control and more. donald trump was referenced to nine times, the only gop hit to be called out. on the topic of isis, hillary clinton called trump the terror group's best recruiter. >> we also need to make sure that the really discriminatory messages that trump is sending around the world don't fall on receptive ears. he's becoming isis' best recruiter. they are going to people showing videos of touchdown insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. >> she lies like crazy about everything, whether it's trips where she was being gunned down in a helicopter or an airplane, she's a liar and everybody knows that. i mean, but she just made this up in thin air. >> did she? it appears to have not been

true. i know jen palmieri was on this morning and she was really nervous. >> apparently it hasn't happened. >> yeah, maybe in some dark corner of syria a guy showed if to another guy on his iphone, but -- >> his encrypted i phone eed ip. and speaking of encrypted iphones, why did apple decide do that? they own the world. it was fascinating for us, but why did apple get out of talks about slave labor and suicides and all this other stuff? >> i think because they were apple, i mean it was fascinating to watch, two parter, charlie rose. i don't know why they did it because the second half was -- >> brutal. >> yes, it was. >> i wouldn't have done it. >> all right. we digress. it was clinton's assessment of

american progress against the islamic state that turned some heads. >> we now finally are where we need to be. we have a strategy and a commitment to go after isis which is a danger to us as well as the region. and we finally have a u.n. security council resolution bringing the world together to go after a political transition in syria. >> she said last night we're finally where we need to be on isis. >> we're not. >> oh, my gosh. with dead bodies in paris, with dead bodies in san bernardino and with no plan from this administration with how to deal with it? mrs. clinton is mrs. happy talk. and she just wants to happy talk her way to therd city. she is the personification of this administration, are you going believe me or your own eyes. so the fact is that that is not where we need to be. >> not a great weekend for hillary clinton. she made stuff up about trump and isis. and then here she takes credit

for the friday resolution at the united nations as if john kerry hasn't existed over the past several years p. >> yeah, she referenced her work with regard to trying on get a resolution done three years ago and indicated that finally, you know, that resolution was passed and never mentioned the secretary of state or his incredibly long hours that he has put into this and hard tran were there. did it strike you? >> she spoke imprecisely at times, but i think it was a pretty good weekend for heroff all. with that the nomination fight, she left herself a lot of safety and sanders, you know, did not break through. ratings aren't really high. >> katty kay, if the democrats i think for the first time in history of modern politics, you had a political party take every measure they could for americans

not to see their candidates. it went against i think a couple of football games. saturday night opening of star wars. actually, they would have known that when they set it up. holiday season. seriously, if you had worked any harder to not get people watching your candidate's debate, you couldn't have done it. >> and isn't the next one on a sunday night? >> yeah, during the nfl playoffs. >> at what point does somebody call out debbie wasserman schultz the democratic party -- >> no one cares. >> the process is really disappointing. >> martin o'malley has been trying to call it out again and again and again, and nobody is listening. nobody cares. there is something about like hillary clinton's world that it just doesn't matter before. >> i mean, it's what you said, there is no nominating process. everybody has decided that bernie sanders had this brief run in the beginning where it looked exciting, where it looked

like he was going to give her something of a contest. that seems to have faded. and hillary clinton is almost presumed to be the democratic nominee at this point. but the debates are still worth watching because we want to see how she's going to perform in debates against her republican counterpart. and you learn a lot from watching these debates. and actually democratic voters would learn a lot about how she will hold up against whoever x is the republican nominee and how she will take this organization she will defend her record on national securities. and that's why these debates are worth watching, less for the nomination process at the moment. >> and it's fascinating the dnc is even hiding which side it's on. when this whole thing came out and the sanders campaign accused the dnc of siding with hillary clinton, debbie wasserman schultz was saying it was all bluster. i think the sanders campaign has a point. >> i do, too.

and i'm uncomfortable about hillary clinton's campaign saying she is a victim when she has data issues, like major -- i don't know if breach is the word, but not following policy. >> as ron fournier helpfully pointed out, classified wasn't marked on any of the documents that bernie sanders people -- >> exactly. >> thank you, ron. >> i guess debbie wasserman shuttle is really powerful. it's stun to go me. >> hillary would have been better served with a tough debate. >> don't put your people on on sunday morning. show up, be in the game. you don't know what donald trump can serve up if he wins. >> being in the bubble, and you can see it when hillary was pushed to the wall a couple months ago, she finally started getting better. she's been in a bubble now

again. she's getting more inside the bubble and you now she's making things up in debates. she's taking credit for what john kerry has been doing for months, years, and we're seeing the return to some of the worst instincts because -- >> playing the victim. >> she's the candidate in the plastic bull. >> new polling in the democratic field taken before saturday night's debate shows a tight race. iowa has bernie sanders just five points back of hillary clinton and inside the margin of error. and in new hampshire, sanders is in first place by double digits ahead of clinton by 14 points. a seven point swing in his favor since the end of november. >> so maybe people are noticing. >> she doesn't show up and she should. if you can't take us, you can't take on some of these -- >> it's not about us. she didn't show up at any of these sunday shows. everybody is on the shows and

she puts jen on. >> she feels like she doesn't have to. she's playing four other thanners corners offense. although as we look at those polls, this is the question i was going to ask you, if you look at iowa, bernie sanders is competitive if not tied in some polls, he's leading big in new hampshire. what does that tell you? this is not a coronation yet. if he wins new hampshire, now we've got a race. >> for the last month the narrative that hillary clinton has been doing so great in the polls has been that is fate to go me because a lot of it is driven by the fact that joe biden has been removed from the polls. so you see the increase in hillary clinton's poll numbers, but it's not come at the intense of bernie ascertaintternie sand. i think the tougher question, even if he wins iowa and let's say he wins iowa and new hampshire, does he have the sort of infrastructure you need i don't understand there. his campaign still remains significantly less well funded

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it's so interesting, isn't it? >> we were talking about chris christie. >> we were talking about his skills in general. >> he's been in the state more than any and second most number of visits is mary christie. >> yesterday they were in new hampshire. watch them. they're human. >> over the weekend jeb bush made some surprising comments, surprising because they were just out of the blue and random like almost -- like just not even made sense with what he was asked about about his place in the crowded republican presidential pack and he took a shot at the front-runner in what

you might call an ungarred plan, unguarded moment. >> some many of the people supporting you and say in it recent mode where you have been more vocal about donald trump. do you see that? >> in a certain case it is liberating to post up about a guy who is not qualified to be president. >> six months ago people thought you were the front-runner. >> yeah, i hated that. >> why'd you hate being a front-runner? >> because i always thought there was going to be a high expectation for me and i totally get it. >> because? >> because i have a brother that was president and father that was president. and that higher expectation was important to realize. so being the front-runner made me feel like that people were going to say the guy is dancing right through this.

vip to earn it. i have higher expectations on me. it doesn't bother me a bit. i want to win, which means you garner momentum when it matters. >> just one other thing, i have to get this off my chest, donald trump is a jerk. a guy like that should not be the front-running candidate of our great party. that is not how we win. i feel better now. i just -- i gave myself therapy there. thank you for allowing me to do it. >> so you didn't like that, huh? >> no. he is probably the best candidate, right? and it just awful. it's too late. >> what's awful? >> it's five months too late. >> i've been reading the dates all along. so, yeah, we're in late december now. we've got 45 days.

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well, i mean, he also is a person who kills journalists, political analysts and invades countries. that would be a concern, would it not? >> he's running this country and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country. >> but again, he kills journalists that don't agree with him. >> well, i think our country does plenty of killing also, joe. >> i -- i -- are we live? i still am flabbergasted that there was a moral equivalency between putin's russia and obama's america. donald trump said, well, yes, he may kill journalists and he may kill others but we kill people too. >> when donald trump stood by his praise of russian president vladimir putin despite some

inconvenient facts about his ruling tactics and donald trump spent much of the weekend defending his position. >> he's accusing me, putin called him brilliant, that's not good. if putin likes me and he thinks i'm a good, smart person -- actually he's right, i am brilliant. you know, he feels good about me. i feel frankly good about him. i feel that we can do things with russia that are to our advantage. and i have people now they're jealous as hell because he's not mentioning these people. he's not going to mention them. >> when you pressed about his killing of journalist you said i think our country does plenty of killing, too. what killing --

>> i think when hillary was secretary of state she made some horrible decision and hundreds and of people were killed. but in all fairness to putin. you're saying he killed people. i haven't seen that. i think it would be despicable but i haven't seen any evidence that he killed anybody in terms of reporters. >> evidence is out there if you want to find it, is it not? >> let me step back for a moment. you were all talking about miss universe a little bit ago and somehow it all came back to donald trump. i'm thinking you guys have this media -- >> don't even try that katrina, i'm trying to ask a serious question, this happens all the time, we ask questions and people come back to trump. >> here's what i'm saying. i think it's a disgrace and a

disservice to this nation that it all comes back to trump. there was a report out, 234 minutes for trump, 10 minute for sanders. it's not to say don't cover trump but the excessive free media this guy gets -- the airwaves belong to the people. >> you should have a sense of humor because we were having fun with donald trump. >> i'm teasing on that front but it made me think, geez, everything comes back to donald trump. >> we get a three-hour show, we've spent more time talking about hillary clinton, the dnc -- >> i'm talking about, joe, joe, you know how the republican in one of the republican debates they were all channelling nixon's vice president about liberal bias. it's not the alleged liberal bias in the media that i think is damaging our democracy, it a corporate media system that is rigged versus the blackinterest. and weep see it most clearly not

just the show -- >> actually not this show at all. not this show at all. here we are trying to talk about russia, trying to talk about -- >> so let us talk about russia. let us talk about isis. >> people come on the show and say why do you want to talk about donald trump and then they sit and talk their whole time about donald trump and you're doing the same thing. i want to talk about arms control in russia and you want to talk about donald trump. >> that clip was showing donald trump to be honest. >> no, no, no, but i brought you on this show so you could talk did vladimir putin assassinating journalists and political adversaries. >> let talk about donald trump. >> donald putin. >> first of all, vladimir putin and i have been studying russia,

it's a failed exercise for 35 years, i've been going to russia for 35 years, i knew several of the journalists killed in he's last years. putin said that donald trump was -- that means vivid, it doesn't mean brilliant. putin is an you a authoritarian figure. my husband and i are very close to the editor of the leading anti-kremlin newspaper. even there they do not believe it and that is where so many of the journalists who were assassinated -- >> and he -- the editor of the paper, the collective of the paper, they do not believe putin ordered the assassination.

they do believe he created the climate in which some of these -- >> let move to political dissidence as well. by the way, donald trump will take what you just said and say she's proven my point. you're not proving donald trump's point, right? >> steven and i wrote an opposition and i think it is vital for u.s. national security interest to have a relationship with russia. don't forget two years ago you needed russia in order for syria to dismantle its chemical weapons. >> you keep interrupting. i need to you answer the question. do you side with donald trump or do you not side with donald trump? is donald trump right or am i wrong when i say donald trump

was responsible for the killing of journalists. answer the question, katrina. is vladimir putin responsible for the killing -- that's all i want. this isn't a trick question. yes or no. >> many western scholars, u.s.-british have many different views of vladimir putin. i'm going to cite my friend, leader of the anti-kremlin -- many he believes were assassinated because of their investigative exposure in chechnya or in corruption. he does not believe that putin ordered the assassination. he believes that putin created the climate. >> what about his political opponents? a lot of them were jailed but there a lot of assassinations or is donald trump right, he's not

responsible for those either? >> i'm not going to agree with donald trump. i'm going to side with those who have -- >> katrina, i need you to answer the question. you won't answer any question. i'm on your side, katrina. but it sounds like you are actually defending putin. >> you asked me to come on to talk about my op-ed, coalition or cold war with russia. i step back and say any candidate, republican or democratic or other party who believes we need to end a cold war that is damaging our national security and to understand that russia is a partner in the fight against isis, in the fight against nuclear terrorism -- >> a lot of people at home right now are saying she's not answering your question. do you think political opponents

are being assassinated by putin? >> i will side with the. >> god, will you pleases and the question. >> he believes we are at -- >> do you think putin is responsible. >> i believe putin is an authoritative leader and has created a climate in that country where there has been assassinations of journalists. my friend in russia, her job is to -- let's use common sense here. russia's a vast country. you have one man. to me it lazy journalism -- >> stalin is one man, too, responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.

>> not to qualify, it's not that putin isn't responsible, he doesn't know. i'm worried you're going to say this is a game but it seems to me you're saying u.s. policy towards russia should be is the same as what trump is saying, you're saying we should put aside there is a conflict and focus on the area of consensus and work with putin where we can to further the interests of both countries. is that right? >> and i would submit to you if you believe that is only donald trump's view, you are mistaken. bernie sanders in the debate i thought drew a clear and important distinction between what his foreign policy would be and hillary clinton's. i believe you, joe, you have spoken a lot on this show not just about donald trump but about the dangers of a regime change foreign policy. what bernie sanders said saturday night was very important in challenging a

bipartisan assumption in this country, which is that america polices the world. mrk should not police the world. it should work in coalition with other allies. and i don't think he did it as effectively as he might have, he also challenged hillary clinton on this foreign policy regime change. look at what's happened in libya. that is the real scandal of benghazi. >> let me ask you if you agree bernie sanders is not getting the airing he should get because the democratic national convention seems to have a process that's rigged for hillary. >> on this we agree, joe. and i'm not talking about this show, the dnc, but it's also the media. bernie sanders wasn't on "meet the press" until a year and a half ago. john mccain has a cot. i think he sleeps there. but what we're also doing and

you had katty kay on, i really admire her. there was talk about writing bernie sanders out. not a single vote has been cast. >> i think so. i graech with you on this. i admire katty. >> i want to talk to you about the media. first of all, i don't have a problem with donald trump calls in the day after a debate. but i do have a problem when donald trump calls in and you have all these other guys calling in on west coast time and carly fiorina and showing you on tv and watching all the sunday morning show, which is supposed to be the anchor every sunday morning of like political talk. he's on the phone, all the other candidates are schleping in but we've got the opposite problem with hillary, who shows up when

she wants to, when she feels like it and only when a red carpet has been negotiated and preplanned. >> i think she's making a mistake. first of all, i think. in fact the dnc organized those debate to protect her, it's a mistake, she's a good debater. she should be out there hustling -- >> go, get dirty. >> the inevitability program -- >> i vietnam seen you in some time. i love you and you love me and we need to do this regular. we need more like 15 minutes. >> i feel like i've always ban part of "morning joe." people still think i'm on. >> i think i can get steve to answer my questions more than you. >> i answered the question. i did it in my own way.

>> not very clearly. i will say i believe he did. i'm not quoting anybody. >> you believe he killed journalists? >> yeah. come on now. >> it is amazing how much russia has moved to the center of the foreign policy debate. >> i think what happened on sunday is critical. on sunday the resolution for a peace process, john kerry played a critical role. i'd like to hear more about john kerry. by the way, in washington right now there is what i call a war party and a diplomacy party. john kerry's leading that in terms of russia. i'd argue joe biden and some of those in the state department subvert him every time he tries to advance some strategic diplomatic step forward. >> i think she just went way over our heads. what do you think? >> hillary was lined up when she was in there, too. >> good to see you. we'll be reading your piece in

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