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the dark side. good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. coming off what you must call a "star wars" weekend. thanks to the saturday night debate, hillary clinton's too direct attack on donald trump this saturday night. she may have weakened a larger charge against trump trying to be too specific.
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>> he is becoming isis' best recruiter. they are going to people showing videos of donald trump insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. fact checkers say it's wrong. politifact rated her statement as false. politico reported there is no evidence radical jihadists are showing video of trump as a recruitment tool. fact check.org said there is no evidence of that. experts said it's likely. trump spotted his opening. here he goes. >> it's nonsense. it's just another hillary lie. she lies like crazy about everything, whether it's trips where she was being gunned down in a helicopter or an airplane. she's a liar.
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everybody knows that. but she just made this up in thin air. i will demand an apology from hillary. she should apologize. she lies about e-mails. she lies about whitewater. she lies about everything. she will be a disaster as president of the united states. >> well, clinton's campaign spokesman responded by broadening the charge against trump. hell, no. hillary will not be apologizing to donald trump for correctly pointing out how his fateful rhetoric only helps isis recruit more terrorists. katy tur is in grand rapids, michigan, tonight, where donald trump is about to hold a big rally tonight. robert costa, "the washington post." paul singer is washington correspondent with "usa today." katy, can you hear me? it's interesting everybody in that audience agreed trump was not a good thing in the country in terms of his anti-islamic rhetoric and our fight with terrorists, but there is no evidence apparently as of this moment that any videos are being passed around in the terrorist world using trump, in his words, as a recruitment tool.
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>> no. there is no evidence as of now. when you talk to the groups that monitor isis and other terror groups, they say could it happen in the future. there's social media postings about trump from known isis fighters. it's not entirely unlikely that won't happen in the future. it just has not happened yet. this has been great for donald trump. he's able to say these experts are backing me. hillary clinton is a liar. he's able to get his base going on. as his base of support does not like hillary clinton. you come to these rallies whenever he speaks about hillary clinton and talks about reinvestigating the e-mail scandal. they cheer loudly. guttural cheers from the crowd. the pin hawkers are selling pins that say "hillary for jail time." there is no love lost between these two candidates. i find interesting he is going after his republican opponents less right now and after hillary clinton more, almost as if this is a general election campaign and not a primary campaign.
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that is partially because he can't go after ted cruz who is his main rival, at least in iowa. ted cruz and him have this cease-fire going on. he hasn't gone after him. he is not going to break that cease-fire because they are going after the same supporters. while heed byes his time, hillary clinton is a decent target. >> let me ask you about this follow-up, this spokesman for hillary clinton's campaign brian fallon went on our network 4:00 this afternoon. i think you were part of that conversation. he said trump said we should bar all muslims, including muslim americans serving our country overseas, in the military, from reentering the country. trump specifically did not say that. he said i would never stop them from coming back in the country, people in uniform. why would the clinton spokesman who came out to clear the air, create another problem? >> let's lay it out. donald trump's muslim ban did not make an exception for muslim americans serving overseas. it said any muslim american overseas would not be let back
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in. as the next day progressed, they clarified that and said muslim athletes and dignitaries as well asmus limb americans who are serving in the american military overseas could come back. there was some lag time there. i think the clinton campaign is seizing on that. they are taking a page out of the donald trump playbook cherry picking what they like from a certain statement and using it to rile up their base. hillary clinton's base of support does not like donald trump. there is no love lost. there is nothing to lose for either one of the candidates. they are pandering to each of their bases. it's a safe zone. even if hillary clinton gets called out for not telling the truth because donald trump gets called out, hillary clinton might suffer more in this because she is held to a higher standard. donald trump is not a politician. he hasn't spent his life in politics. people i speak to say they don't necessarily require him to always be telling the truth. they say they like his
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exaggerations and think he is human. hillary clinton has been in the public spotlight and accountable to the american public for so long now. >> thank you. hang in there. we may go to trump at some point this hour when he goes live. let me bring in our other panelists. the old thing in politics was don't mention the opponent's name and don't help somebody else win the nomination. there was famous case of lyndon johnson going after nixon when he was a nobody, finished in politics. johnson attacked him, nixon is coming back. i understand why they are all attacking hillary. they are hillary haters on the right. why is hillary clinton singling out donald trump now because she's almost making him the nominee in her eyes? >> democrats tell me win or lose the nomination, clinton wants to make trump the face of the
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republican party. that's -- >> she may be making him the nominee. >> that's fine. democrats are open to that fight. >> they want that? >> they want it. >> would you say when you get him on background, after a few drinks even, they think trump is their best opponent? >> by fair he's their best opponent. their least practiced in governing. he has the most land mines in every one of his conversations. >> we've been saying that for months. >> in a primary, yes. in a general election, the clinton people think this is the greatest campaign. >> they do say ted cruz, they think they could point and cast more as a straight forward right winger. an unlikable person. >> uncomplicated. >> the thing about trump, what electorate would trump bring out? what disengaged voter who hasn't voted for decade will vote for trump? >> cruz would bring out the culturally conservative angry right. >> that's right. trump is so unpredictable. >> i wouldn't want to bet
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against the joker in the deck. you never know. there is a thought if trump's the nominee, he brings out democratic turnout. he stokes up the democratic turnout. >> he brings out the turnouts for the debates. i don't know anybody from this planet who isn't watching that. today on npr, president obama spoke about trump's ugly attack against him. obama said part of the anger directed at him was ethnic. let's watch how he handles this. he's very careful. >> somebody questioning whether i was born in the united states or not, how do i think about that? i would say that that's something is actively promoted and may gain traction because of my unique demographic. if you're referring to specific strains in the republican party
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that suggest that somehow i'm different, i'm muslim, i'm disloyal to the country, et cetera, that's pretty specific to me and who i am and my background and that in some ways i may represent change that worries them. >> let me get back to katy tur. there is the president being almost academic talking about himself being his father is from africa, from kenya, he has an american mother, black and white parents, mixed ethically, refusing to get down in the ditch in the mud with trump. fascinating trump throws the mud and this guy goes, i'm going to treat him like a professor with a naughty student. i'm just going to teach this kid. your thoughts. >> he has nothing to gain getting down in the mud with donald trump. he's almost out of the presidency. democrats have been trying to take the high road.
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especially when it comes to the birtherism. it's a moot issue. there is no reason to address it other than for his own sake. there is no reason to get down and dirty with donald trump. it's not something playing on the campaign even. donald trump himself doesn't like to talk about it. when you were asking him about it. with me he doesn't like to talk about it. >> because he can't make the case that the president snuck into this country, that his mother named him hussein, went off to kenya and have him born, then snuck back to hawaii and had all the birth announcements. it's ludicrous that charge. >> it might be ludicrous, but he refuses to back away from it. what you hear at these rallies, the anger towards the president from the people who show up is palpable. you hear one or two guys scream as loud as they can, obama is a muslim or obama is a isis or obama was born in kenya.
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the anger towards the president is being funneled through this crowd. not funneled, allowed to release itself with the people who come here. they are allowed to say they don't like the president. not only do they not like him, but they hate him. the anger in the rooms here can sometimes be overwhelming. especially when he talking about hillary clinton and talks about president obama. >> we saw some of the fiercest anti-trump attacks yet from jeb bush this weekend. let's watch that cross fire. >>. >> one other thing i've got to get off my chest. donald trump is a jerk. you can't, you cannot insult your way to the presidency. you can't disparage women, hispanics, disabled people. who is he kidding?
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a guy like that should not be the front running candidate of our great party. that is not how we win. i feel better now. >> would he feel better if he drank that water? it's so langerous. it's not working. that audience was dutiful in its clapping. >> he is right. >> no more name calling. they used to be fighting words. you didn't call him a liar or a jerk. >> liar is the worst. >> christie sees a lane in new hampshire, lindsey graham out of the race. it's fluid up there. >> it's rare -- i remember jim rand, went to school with him. he called the incumbent congressman a jerk and everybody
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said you're right. this word jerk seems puny attacking trump. >> we don't like donald trump and he's a jerk, thereby behaving like a jerk. we don't like donald trump because he doesn't tell the truth. hillary clinton doesn't tell the truth. >> if there is the best way to beat him, he can't win the general. how would that work when with you interview people in the crowds there? would that work or not? >> i think they don't like hillary clinton. i have encountered some people who say they are worried donald trump won't beat her. most come out believe he will. they believe he'll be able to fire up an untold amount of people who maybe otherwise would not come out and vote. the idea that he is not going to be able to beat hillary clinton is not necessarily one that resonates with the people who show up to his rallies. we still don't know how many of the people who show up are going to go out and vote. we have 5,000, 6,000 people here.
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generally we have a few thousand, upwards of 14,000. you just get 10% of those people to show up and vote, he runs away with the vote in most those states. if these people do come out and support him, you'll have something we have not seen in american politics, somebody everybody discounted from the beginning run away with it. we'll have to see. polling is suggesting it's going that way. who knows? you never know where the polling is going to go. >> i'm looking at big numbers, guys. i'm seeing him as high as he's been. he's as high as he's been nationally. most people thought he was going to die when the fall came. and the fall is gone, it's the 21st today. the fall is gone. third season of donald trump higher than ever.
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>> katy brings up a good point. caucuses, iowa, will be organizational tests. when it comes to a straight primary, he could ride those head winds. >> you mean tail wind. >> i don't think you can stop donald trump other than beat him on the ground. if he loses in iowa, then he has a black eye for the first time. >> here is my prediction. a three-way race in the south. especially s.e.c. primaries. you'll see three guys. rubio because of the hawkish money. cruz for the angry right. and trump for the show. katy tur, great coverage. robert costa, thank you, and paul singer, as well. thank you. please watch tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. this is one of the biggest things. it's going to be 7:00 tomorrow
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night eastern time. "citizen trump." an inside look at this unusual political figure. if you want to get in a good argument on trump, watch this show. you'll get more facts coming out of this hour than anywhere else. we are going to take a deep listen coming up next to president obama confronting the ugly side of his republican critics. it's when we normally hear from a sitting president. here is obama trying to explain why the trump crowd are dumping on him. ted cruz rising in the polls doing it more and more like sounding like donald trump. is imitation the sincerest form of flattery? >> how hillary clinton did against bernie and martin on saturday night's debate. a tease. what is coming in this hour, tomorrow night "citizen trump" this is "hardball" the place for politics.
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lindsey graham has dropped out of the 2016 race. he did it today. i never quite gained traction, as we say and was relegated to the undercard, the kids' table in most of the republican debates. who is going to endorse ahead of the all-important primary in his home state of south carolina? i bet it's rubio.
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president obama got unusually candid about hiss racial background in an interview with npr that aired this morning. he said some of the over-the-top criticism aimed at him from the right can be explained by it, his background. something we haven't heard from him before. he accused donald trump of exploiting the fear and anger felt by some people, especially who the president called blue collar men caused by a changing economy and stagnating incomes.
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>> you can buy most things and it means that there is going to be potential anger, frustration, fear. some of it justified, but misdirected. i think somebody like mr. trump's taken advantage of that. that's what he's exploiting during the course of his campaign. >> apparently i hear the president works out in the morning listening to npr. that caused the presence of incoming from the right. the drudge report had this headline, "obama plays the race card on trump." first of all, i don't think he played the race card if you mean like johnnie cochran. he was simply trying to explain, i thought, why there are some people who don't seem to like him. >> right. there is a real explanation out there there is an issue of race. he knows right now it's being played up by certain candidates.
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to talk about the birther issue is a devisive issue. that was one of the first issues for donald trump. he got resounding response. >> why would you say a guy is born in africa when it's impossible he could have been born in africa. why would a mother name her kid barack hussein obama, have the baby in africa and sneak back to honolulu? >> it is crazy. donald trump is tapping into a portion of this country that does not like the fact there is an african-american who are black man who reached the highest of heights in this nation. >> my theory -- >> yes, chris? >> i'm not a person of color but i have a theory about this charge. i think the really angry guy out there, mostly guy, white guy, thinks if he can erase him from that picture of what we get as kids from the presidents, begins with george washington through lincoln and roosevelt, and there is a president who is black, they want to make sure he is not there.
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somehow that book has an asterisk. pete rose didn't really get in the hall of fame. somehow he's not there they keep picking at it. 43% of republicans say he's a muslim. where do they get that from? >> this is the sense which donald trump is pandering to a market need. there's a number of people -- i think the president's analysis that this is a time of rapid social change, that he is a representative of and there are a lot of people who feel dislocated by that, who feel uncomfortable with that and it's not only about this president, it's about a lot of things happening in this country. it's about these economic woes. interestingly does not associate himself with. he doesn't see himself as part of this scenario. he doesn't think the troubles the country is going through have anything to do with him. he is talking like a sociology professor. >> why some people fear he is trying to change the country.
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>> in a big country like this, there's always going to be folks who are frustrated, don't like the direction of the country, are concerned about the president. if you are referring to specific strains in the republican party that suggest that somehow i'm different, i'm muslim, i'm disloyal to the country, et cetera, which unfortunately is pretty far out there and gets some traction in certain pockets of the republican party, and have been articulated by some of their elected officials. what i'd say there is that's probably pretty specific to me and who i am and my background
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and that in some ways i may represent change that worries them. >> that's like arthur schlesinger doing play by play in a wrestling match. he's so delicate. >> it's delicate and very politically correct. let's get to the meat of it. bottom line is whether it's a muslim or not, who cares? >> it matters if he says he's not and he is. >> but he's not. >> i agree. >> go back to jeremiah wright. >> if somebody says they're lying, you have to fight them. >> jeremiah wright, is that enough? remember the craziness during the campaign? he had to come up with a great philadelphia speech on race? christian. let's go back further in history. you are a great person who talks about history. let's remember when this nation was in an uproar about kennedy being catholic. remember that. let's go back to when we tried to make it palatable about a mormon possibly being president.
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we are still a nation that still thinks it has to be this way. we have to look at it that way. we have to open our minds. >> george romney who was mitt's father, the issue never came up. things are getting worse in some regard. >> what i think is interesting what it seconds about second term obama. there's been a lot of talk about him being sort of liberated now that he never has to run for realec. >> he looks like it. >> he looked so happy. >> he couldn't care less about donald trump. >> he's also resigned, right? he came in, he was going to unite the country. his unique demographic make-up was supposed to be a feature because it would enable him to bring all these different groups together. now he understands there are people who are never going to accept him. when he thought he could put this to rest because it wasn't true. releasing the long form birth certificate when donald trump demanded it, he understands that will never happen. >> the day he walked in that door, they knew. they understood race and
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politics will follow him. they didn't understand the degree it would go to the problems. they understood the unique dynamic of who he was and what he brought to the white house into this nation. >> 80% of this country has completely accepted them, the obama family as the first family, totally accepted michelle, totally accepted the kids. is proud to have them in the oval office and white house living there. it's still, to put it in perspective, about 20%, right? >> it's a loud minority. >> and angry. you're never loud. thank you. we argue more in the greenroom than out here. we'll be back in a moment with a preview of citizen trump which previews tomorrow. if you like "citizen kane" which trump does. you'll like this. if you like trump, you'll like parts of it. this is "hardball."
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we'll show you a piece of it now.
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welcome back to "hardball." tomorrow night as you've been hearing all day today and will tomorrow beginning with "morning joe" we are going to present "citizen trump. in "our documentary on the man out front in the republican fight for president. our purpose is to dig into the reasons why people want trump for president. he muscled his way past the gop establishment, the powers that were in the republican party. >> trump! >> trump is right. americans know he's right. >> when mexico sends its people, they are bringing drugs, they're bringing crimes, they're rapists. >> trump is acting in a very old
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and shameful american tradition. every so often like a fever, anti-immigrant feeling arises. >> excuse me. sit down. you weren't called. sit down. >> what you see is what you get. he's genuine. he's the real deal. >> he has tapped into a part of the electorate that is, i think, deeply angry about the state of the economy. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap? >> this guy is just saying what people are thinking. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> trump's statement is a dangerous proposal that overrides history, the law and the foundation of america
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itself. >> you are getting donald trump full throttle, ready to destroy anyone who gets in his way. >> tomorrow night we give you the trump story. fans will cheer at some moments, boo at others and critics will cheer the negatives, boo the undeniable achievements of the man. what everyone watching will have at the end of the hour, the strongest possible ammunition in any argument you get into. you'll have a great jump on what his or his arguments or her arguments are going to be in his favor. whatever your purpose, watch tomorrow night 7:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. up next, the "hardball" round table on saturday night's democratic debate. how hillary clinton was prepared to take on her rivals. >> ted cruz borrows from donald trump's playbook. he is well back in second place.
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we need to take power out of washington and back to we the people. that is what this campaign is all about. >> that's the voice and face of the right wing republican party. that was ted cruz in georgia on part of a campaign swing of the southern states that hold their primaries on march 1st. as "the new york times" points out, cruz appears to be doubling down to mimic republican front-runner donald trump. mr. cruz seemed to more closely
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resemble the man he's been chasing or quietly drafting behind for months, perhaps most notably, mr. cruz sharpened his uncompromising language, eager to retain his hold on popular anger. cruz has echoed trump's rhetoric on issues ranging from illegal immigration to isis to political correctitude. >> we have drug dealers, rapists. >> 2013 the obama administration released 36,000 illegal aliens who had criminal convictions, including 116 murders. >> i'm going to bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. it's true. >> we will carpet bomb them into oblivion. i don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but we'll find out. >> i think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. i don't, frankly, have time for total political correctness. and to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either. >> it's not a lack of confidence
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preventing the obama administration, it's political correctness. >> cruz tries to imitate trump. we have trump on stage live in grand rapids, michigan. >> who did he kill? i go through this whole thing. it would be so great if we could get russia on our side and other countries on our side. and knock the hell out of isis and knock -- right? right? so stupid. just knock the living hell out of them. remember i said take the oil. right? for years i've been saying that. for years. look. we have people running this country who are stupid, just stupid. i went to an ivy league school
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and i'm very highly educated. i went to the best business school in the world. somebody said he's plain spoken. i don't have to be explain spoken. i have this incredible vocabulary. how can i describe our leaders better than the word stupid? really, right? there's no word. there's no word. i used to say grossly incompetent but stupid is stronger, right? >> bye-bye. bye-bye.
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hard to believe. usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! so unbelievable. but i'm really trying to be really neutral. to one guy i said, get him out of here now! and they said the next day, it was horrible, horrible the way trump talked. the guy was a bad guy. he was terrible what he was doing, but what is very rough. get him out of here. the next day they come out and say that was horrible the way trump -- the next day i had another big one.
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21,000 people. i had one guy, one guy was like he went a little crazy. i was very nice. i said please remove him, but be very nice. if he wants to come back let -- you know what they did the next day? first day he was terrible, he was rough. the second day -- we're going to let trump deal with that crew. i'm joined by the "hardball" round table. here is what i want to talk about tonight. it seems the republican establishment is finished. the two candidates dominating
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the polls was dr. ben carson. he faded dramatically. the two candidates are trump dramatically and the guy cruising up there is ted cruz. as we just saw in an earlier bite, incredibly anti-establishment, incredibly hard right. does the republican hearty have any chance getting back in this fight? >> they do. i think lindsey graham was trying to send a signal today when he quit. that is a lot of these extra candidates have to get out of the space. then -- >> who is he talking to? who does he want to quit? >> kasich is not doing well at all in the polls. >> jeb. >> well, i don't know if that is as far as lindsey graham would go. >> he's at 4%, 5%. >> but he likes jeb bush. he may not pick him. >> consolidate the moderate republican voice. then they would have enough to take on cruz or trump. it seems like these two guys
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keep growing out of what's left. they've got to scramble together seven candidates. >> there is less than a majority out of what's left. >> rubio doesn't like to campaign. >> he might have a stretch of run in him in iowa before the primary there. >> who is the first moderate with a chance to win this thing? win? >> it's going to be new hampshire. that's where -- whether they win or not, that maybe where they emerge. cruz appears to be, in terms of organization, momentum and message, very well established in iowa. so then you've got to go -- >> how many home schoolers are there in new hampshire? >> exactly. he's not a perfect fit what do we do in new hampshire? test whether trump is rhetoric and no machine. we have candidates, mainstream candidates or the establishment candidates rubio doing pretty
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well. christie rising. christie's message is perfect for new hampshire. >> which is what? east coast ethnic angry what? >> he would be tough on the terrorists. he's an independent thinker, a straight talker. and he has a very compelling message on drug abuse, which is a very big issue. >> the heroin epidemic. >> exactly. >> having grown up in a catholic environment, we always thought before the bridge problem hit him hard that christie had that appeal to the street corner guy. >> it's not just since the bridgegate thing. i do thing trump getting into this race fundamentally changed the thing. everyone keeps saying you've got cruz mimicking trump. a year ago everyone was saying cruz was the one who was bombastic. cruz is the one who gets on the senate floor and calls mitch mcconnell a liar.
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he was willing to shut down the government because he thought he could defund obamacare. he's always been willing to get out there and tell it like it is, even if that goes against what the party wants. i think what donald trump has done for ted cruz is be a brushfire and clear the way. >> who is the best shot to be the voice against trump and cruz together? >> marco rubio. >> i would say he has the best shot now. i don't know if that is going to last. >> the question is where? >> where can marco rubio win? he could probably win nevada. possibly new hampshire. his people got to get more organized. >> where is he sitting right now? the interesting thing about cruz, he is saying the same thing trump is, yet he has a distinction in that the evangelicals trust ted cruz. >> do home schoolers travel? >> not necessarily. >> they live there. >> they send them on buses to
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get out the vote. they do. >> three-way fight. pat buchanan said if you win new hampshire, you are competing in arizona. people all watch the same tv shows. they see the same results many we are more than we like to admit, one country where people are all watching the same tv shows. you watch. if trump starts to win like in south carolina, he'll do well in the s.e.c. fight. democrats in their third debate. the primary season over this weekend. front-runner hillary clinton faced attacks from both rivals, bernie sanders and martin o'malley. sanders criticized the former sent of state for her support of regime change in iraq, libya and syria. clinton fired back. >> i worry too much that secretary clinton is too much into regime change, and a little
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bit too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be. so i think, yeah, regime change is easy. getting rid of dictators is easy. before you do that, you've got to think about what happens the day after. >> with all due respect, senator, you voted for regime change with respect to libya. you joined the senate in voting to get rid of gadhafi and you asked there be a security council validation of that with a resolution. >> she is nailing good night for agreeing with her back then. this is rich stuff, but it worked. she stopped him. >> it does work. she stopped martin o'malley with the same factual response when he attacked her on wall street. she is a hard worker. she prepares. >> why did she prepare for the first and third debate but not the second? >> i think she was thrown off by the first question. that was the obama foreign policy is really bad. you were part of it. you own it.
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answer that. >> i think you've got to did your homework in this business. up next, these three will tell me something i don't know. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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"citizen trump" premiering tomorrow night at 7:00 eastern here on msnbc at 7:00 p.m.
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we're back with the "hardball" roundtable. francesca, you first. tell me something i don't know. and i was just in iowa over the weekend with mr. trump. and as you know, his strategy is to try to get people who've never caucused with him out to vote for him but the problem with that strategy is everyone i talked to has never caucused before, so they don't know how one works, they don't know where to go. so if he actually wants to win iowa he's going to have to do a better job of explaining that process. >> trump university. go ahead. jonathan. >> there's some concern in democratic circles that the paris attacks and san bernardino
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attacks are going to hurt recruiting for congressional candidates, some who have not yet gotten into house and senate races are going to look into a potential national security campaign and conclude that's a tougher race to win. >> democratic. >> right. >> wow. >> some concern that's what's going to happen. >> there's only about 40 seats that are really contestable, right? >> absolutely. but you're still -- there's still some concern. >> so interesting. jean. >> well, we at the "wall street journal" were talking demographics today, and one thing we discovered that i didn't know was that right now seniors and young people are at about parity when they turn out to vote. in the coming decade seniors are going to start growing as a piece of the electorate. to as much as 30%. >> seniors being over 65. >> exactly. this should be great news for republicans. but what they also found is that half of them will be minorities. so how do they deal with that? >> if they all live long. thank you. jean cummings, jonathan allen
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and francesca chambers. when we return, let me finish way tease of what's coming in this hour tomorrow night. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.
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and it turned out to be a lie. she's a liar. it turned out to be a lie. turned out to be a lie. >> that's donald trump of course just moments ago. unfortunately perhaps taking on hillary clinton. let me finish tonight with a preview of coming attractions tomorrow night. citizen trump is all done and ready for you to see tomorrow night at 7:00 eastern. that title, "citizen trump," struck me from the outset as a tight way to tie up this story. trump has called "citizen kane" his favorite movie. it's about a tycoon like himself, a man of controversy, huge ego, and yes, achievement. the question "citizen trump" seeks to answer is who is this guy, where did he come from, how did this real estate wunderkind from queens become who he is. people who like trump may find themselves uneasy at some of his behavior. the serial marriages. the bankruptcies. and those who don't like trump will find themselves having an equally hard time denying his achievements. in this sense the documentary and its subject are much like that of "citizen kane," the
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story of the newspaper baron based upon the real-life story of william randolph hearst. in that movie the film's hero succeeds at pretty much everything but politics. and those who watch "citizen trump" will wonder if in this one large regard he might just outdo his hero. watch it tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on "hardball" at "hardball" time. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> they are going to people showing videos of donald trump insulting islam and muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. >> donald trump hits back at hillary's isis recruitment claim. >> i will demand an apology. >> tonight the clinton campaign is here to respond to trump's demand. then president obama on trump's campaign of fear. >> that's what he's exploiting during the course of his campaign. >> plus, why lindsey graham's exit could have big implications r