tv Young Kids Hard Time MSNBC December 26, 2015 11:00pm-12:01am PST
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> i got 30 years suspended five for probation. if the judge got sentenced to 30 years, you know, he would be freaking out. >> i don't think about the days. i just go day by day. like i go by each meal. try to be good at each meal. >> i've never heard of such a thing.
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12 years old, we're going to treat him like an adult. it's just ridiculous. >> kids would be coming in. it's rough. i feel sorry for them. >> 25 years, i couldn't comprehend. wrote a goodbye letter to my family and hung myself. >> wabash valley correctional >> wabash valley correctional facility is a maximum security
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facility unlike any other in the state of indiana. it's home to a cell block of 53 kids, sentenced as adults. >> i'm colt lundy, and i'm 15 years old. it's overwhelming just to know that there is people in here that be like my grandpa. so it's really quite odd, because everybody calls me young un, and i'm always treated like i'm a little kid can. on the news, they made it sound like i was just horrible, juvenile, like cold-blooded. my crime might seem like that, but, like, i'm not the person that they may think i am from reading something. like i'm way different than that. >> 15-year-old colt lundy is at the start of a 30-year prison sentence for conspiracy to commit murder in the shooting death of his stepfather. he and a 12-year-old accomplice were caught in illinois after the boys fled in the victim's car. what would drive two kids, neither of whom had ever had a
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brush with the law to commit such an unthinkable act? reports show no real explanation, and neither boy chose to talk with us of the specifics of the crime. >> i got 30 years, suspended five for probation. i never thought i could actually go to prison. i just thought the worst would be probation or boy's school. but you don't realize until after the fact that every decision you make, every choice has a repercussion, whether good or bad. and you just need to keep that in mind, because, you know, this can happen to you. >> the worst thing for me is like when you look outside, like it's dark outside, you know, you look up at the sky, it's like totally black. and then i see the razor wire, the brick buildings and all that. i'm just thinking wow, this is really prison, you know. sometimes it just hits you. >> sometimes it feels like a dream. it's like it's not real.
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this is definitely not home. >> teenagers like colt lundy and his roommate are not alone. across the united states, nearly 10,000 kids under the age of 18 are serving time in adult prisons and jails. >> about a month ago, somebody got stabbed in the mouth. they tried to stab in the neck, but missed and got him in the check. >> another guy stab today, right? >> he got hit with a lock sock. and a lock sock -- >> it's the prison weapon, the lock sock. >> lock your sock, put it in a sock and then you would tie it right here so it doesn't come out. and then put another sock around it so it doesn't rip, and you got a weapon. this is deadly. >> it's how a lot of people in here get hurt. >> die too. and was some guy not too long ago got beat to death with lock socks, to death. >> in indiana, all kid sentences adults are in the youth unit inside the massive wabash
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compound with all adult kept separate. the young offenders are isolated from their adult counterparts, and rarely leave their own cell block. >> this is like your whole life. i've spent five month notice county. and if they would have let me out then, that would have been enough wake-up call for the rest of my life. >> but once a youth offender turns 18, they're transitioned out of the youth unit and into the adult population, either here or at one of indiana's 21 other adult facilities. >> you know, you just don't know what to expect. you're just surrounded by people you don't know, you don't know how they are, what they're going to do. your whole life is controlled by somebody you don't know. and any time something could happen.
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my name is miles folsom. i'm 17 years old, and i'm incarcerated at wabash valley correctional facility. i didn't care about anything. i started marijuana at the age of 7. i personally think i became an alcoholic. i would only drink hard liquor. i was 13. and then i turned 14, and i'm partying all the time. when they sentenced me to 36 years, i was really i was speechless. i just looked in awe as the judge walked out of the courtroom. >> at 16, miles was sentenced for felony robbery and criminal confinement charges. he still keeps a local newspaper headline if what he calls the worst day of his life. >> facing a lengthy prison term set in last week, 16-year-old miles folsom went to the bathroom at porter county jail, carved "i'm sorry" on his chest and attempted to hang himself.
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he was rescued before he died and was well enough friday to be brought over to the court friday to tell the judge he is a changed man. the prosecutor said she did not buy the change of heart, and the claim was not enough to overcome the young man's lengthy and violent criminal history. porter circuit judge sentenced folsom to 36 years behind bars. even 25 years i couldn't comprehend. and i wasn't think clearly. and it really hit me. i wrote a goodbye letter to my family and hung myself. another inmate had heard noises or something from me gasping, and he had found me and called for the police. and finally, they picked me up and pulled because it was slipknot, and they pulled it from around my head. >> some might find it hard to reconcile the miles in the newspaper story with the miles inside wabash. fulsome is one of the highest
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performing in the youth unit and serves as an educational tutor for kids. soon to be 18, he has earned his g.e.d. and a coveted job in the kitchen. >> this is prison. you can only do so many things. but if you do nothing, you become nothing. i started writing kids can in a group called risk that i used to be in that i failed. and to tell them what it's like for me in here. because there are many open cells, you know. one day they could walk in. and i don't want to see that. >> when we come back, another child behind bars. and if court orders stand, wabash will see the youngest kid in indiana history behind adult prison walls. announcer: get beautyrest, posturepedic,
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destination, wabash valley. kids spend their time behind these walls in the wabash youth unit, a 53-bed cell block that becomes a fortress of the mundane. kids at wabash rarely leave this unit due to the dangers posed by the thousands of adult prisoners just outside their door. >> at night when you don't have anything to do, that's when it really gets to you. like you just think, like, like all the things you could have been doing on the outside. everything that you're missing out on. >> the kids incarcerated in indiana do not come in a one-size-fits-all package. colt lundy a 15-year-old with no history in the system, doing 30 years for conspiracy to commit murder. 18-year-old robert beehler committed battery and threatened to kill a police officer. he is serving a two-year sentence. >> my name is robert. i'm in wabash valley. i'm in ccu for a fight. >> beehler is at the start of a
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three-month stint in segregation. >> we was playing cards. got -- got and he smacked my face to the cards. so i from the back hit him a couple times. and then he is on the ground. i start kicking him. >> so what brought you to wabash in the first place? >> i wanted to see my brother, though, because he is in a juvenile block. so i got in trouble just to come here. >> you got in trouble on the outside to get arrested so you could come to wabash to see your brother who is already here? >> yeah. it didn't work out that way. they moved him. the day before i got there, he was adult block. >> what is your first memory of getting in trouble or doing something bad? do you remember how old you were? >> i was 9. i was at school. yeah. i got in a fight. i grabbed a chair and i threw it at the teacher. and he tried to grab me. and i grabbed his watch and i split his wrist open. so they locked me up.
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sent me to juvenile. >> when it comes to kids and punishment, the question needs to be answered. do kids no matter what the crime belong in adult prison? mike dempsey is in charge of all juvenile services for interest indiana department of correction. >> it's a complicated issue. and just because of the fact that they are still juveniles. so they're still young in mind and body and spirit and everything. and yet they have committed some pretty serious crimes against society. the natural reaction, particularly for a kid who is going into an environment like that, they learn survival skills. and it's not a positive learning environment either. >> you just got to basically rely on somebody in here that you can halfway trust, because you don't trust anybody in here, nobody.
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other than that, you're on your own. >> we're standing by whenever you're clear. >> for 15-year-old kids coming in that have 30 years to do, i would tell them what the guys told me when i came in. users and abusers are all over this place. >> 32-year-old inmate greg knows what it's like to be a young kid serving hard time. at the age of 15, he was convicted for the murder of both of his parents. he became the youngest person in indiana history to be sentenced an adult. at that time, there were no separate facilities for younger offenders. so he was placed directly into the adult population. >> i had some guys try to tell me don't tell them you're 15. tell them you're 17. i'm not a liar. and the first guy asked me, you look kind of young. how old are you? i'm 15. he stopped me. what? you know how quickly that spread throughout the prison? you know how many people wanted to be my bunkie for the wrong reasons? it's ugly, sick environment. >> he was 15.
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and i remember him coming in the saw house, and i remember pointing over, talking to him. he looked so young. he had some of that babyface type of thing, you know. >> prison superintendent mark severe knows him well. severe was superintendent at wabash 18 years ago when he first arrived. both are now at the miami facility in kokomo, indiana. severe still remembers the tense discussions that took place as staff members prepared to put an eighth grader in a cell with an adult offender. >> you don't have a choice. you're going to live with someone. the leadership of telephone facility, we got the other. we screened who was going to be in there with him. we got a duty to protect everyone as best we can. and we tried to gear him in the direction to be a positive direction for him. >> he was scared for sure. >> tense all the time. and i've never been to prison. in the worst case scenario, what if i have to defend myself and do things i'm not prepared to do to defend myself?
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>> kids are coming in, and it's rough. i feel sorry for them. >> in just a minute, three offenders will be coming in. we'll be processing them into the facility. two of them are the youth offenders. >> all right, fellows, come on. >> 179656. >> all right. stand on the line. >> remove all your clothes, any bags. put your shoes in this bag, your clothes in this bag. all right? >> all right. >> the majority of them are quiet, not knowing what to expect in this environment. it's totally different from where they came from.
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>> like at first when you get here, you're just nervous because you don't know how it's going to be like. and the uncomfortable level is like 9 or 10 all the time. >> right here below your chin. >> on any given day in the united states, more than 10,000 kids under the age of 18 are held in jails and adult prison. >> let's go. >> today 17-year-olds aaron gabriel and harrison shepherd become two of the statistics. >> hey, this is actually good. >> it's okay. >> ready? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> you can't even imagine on the outside what it would be like. >> it's crazy, ain't it? >> yeah. it's a whole different outlook, man. >> yeah.
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home sweet home. >> never thought it would be home. >> they have to prove themselves to somebody but you don't. >> you just got to be yourself. >> fresh meat! >> right here in 101. >> crazy. >> that's it. >> this is home, man. >> i need to be punished for what i did. i'm never going to take that away. but it shouldn't have been just punishment. i still never had a chance to get the counseling for why i killed my mom and dad. if everyone has such a great
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opinion now, the community, well, you need to be locked up. where were you before? where were you when i was in school, i'm showing all the signs? where were you then? my name is michael stanley. i'm 18 years old. i'm in wabash correctional facility. i've been here 11 months. i've seen a lot of people like murder, you know, a lot of high crimes all the time. and i thank god every day that i gott the time that i got, because i don't know what to do if i had 30, 50, 40 years. >> and what are wow in for? >> robbery. >> michael stanley and arulias woods are both serving sentences. the teens are best friends and cellmates. they could be shipped out to the adult population at any time. woods is set for transfer first, but no one knows for sure when
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or where he and michael will go. >> it's going to feel different to be with somebody else. we've been a long time since we got locked up. wherever he go, wherever i go, we still hold it down for each other. as long as he all right, i'm all right. >> but you think you're leaving first? >> yes, ma'am. got 18 the longest. i've been approved sent to sanborn. >> i wouldn't say i'm nervous. i just want the best for him. >> are you nervous for him? >> nah, i ain't nervous him. i know he is going to hold his ground, stay to his health and get home, like i want to get home, to his family. do anything you can to keep out of trouble. you know? >> coming up, a fight to keep a 12-year-old out of adult prison. >> he has never had a juvenile referral. i've never heard of such a thing. 12 years old, we're going to
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i was kind of, like, scared, because i didn't know where i was -- where my body was going to be and everything. >> 12-year-old paul gingerich is one of the youngest kids in indiana history to be sentenced as an adult. paul was a friend of colt lundy when the two boys fired four shots, killing colt's stepdad in his northern indiana home. paul was sentenced to 25 years in the wabash youth unit, but due to his age and size, officials made a bold decision and placed the seventh grader at pendleton juvenile facility, a maximum security prison which only houses juveniles. >> he's not our first murderer here, but he is not the typical thing that you would see. you just saw the paper and you would expect a much larger, scary kid. and that's just not the case with him. he is kind of a little guy, even for his age i think he is a little guy.
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it's hard to imagine someone that age being in that position. >> had you ever been in juvenile? >> no. this was my first time. >> gingerich's age and lack of criminal record caught the attention of monica foster, an indianapolis attorney who has taken on his case pro bono. she is appealing paul's adult sentencing and fighting to keep him in a juvenile facility. >> he has never had a juvenile referral. never a juvenile referral. i've never heard of such a thing. 12 years old, we're going to treat him like an adult with zero juvenile referrals. to treat a 12-year-old as an adult is for the system to say we give up on you. there is nothing that we can do to rehabilitate you. and to me that is selling the justice system so far short. and it is selling a kid like paul so amazingly short. it's just ridiculous. >> monica and paul's mother,
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nicole gingerich hope to keep paul in a youth facility with programs geared towards his age and developmental needs. but as it stands now, paul will transition to wabash as soon as officials feel he has matured enough to make the move. >> i think that he should be held accountable for the part that he had in this. and i would suggest counseling, therapy, and programs to help him. >> mike dempsey has other reasons for wanting to keep paul in the juvenile system. >> the fact is you can't put a 12-year-old child in that type of environment and expect them to have half a chance. you just can't do it. i think that there are probably some adult offenders who sincerely want to try to do the right thing and help, yet there is a lot of predators out there as well, who will eat the weakness up. they can get into trouble very quickly. serious trouble.
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i mean life endangering type of trouble. >> it's different what i always thought it would be. i wasn't expecting the razor wire. it sucks. you don't want to come here. >> there is a lot of hurt feelings that happen with these cases. so it understand when people are out there and they're angry and they're hurt. somebody needs to pay for that. but not just one person. that don't mean you throw this kid away either, because kids just didn't wake up one day and say i'm going to kill somebody. >> a lot of people may think that, you know, this is a good place for them and lock them up and throw away the key. but it's just not that simple. >> miles fulsome learned the hard way how much you can lose once prison becomes your home.
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>> i didn't know i had a son. but now i know i have a 1 1/2-year-old son. the 19th will be the first time i've ever seen my son. >> after two years behind bars, miles is prepping for the biggest visit of his life, the chance to meet his little boy. >> man, it feels -- i'm scared. i'm worried, you know. i'm more scared about seeing my son than i am about being in prison. i don't know if he -- if i'm going to try and hold him and he is going to cry, if he is going to reject me. just thinking about it hurts. >> as hard as it is for miles to serve his time in the youth unit thinking about his son, what lies in storer will be even tougher. >> i turn 18 in one week. and it was told to me that either on my birthday or the next day they'll be transferring me over to the adult side. >> i say chow is running late. >> officer maggie miller is used
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to dealing with a range of emotions that accompany the transition for to the adult population. >> they don't say a lot about it. you know, they don't tell me a lot about their feelings, you knows of how it is to transition. but you can tell that some of them do get very nervous about it. >> suddenly, michael stanley learns exactly how it feels to be told it's time to move to the adult cell block. >> it all hinges on when they finish chow is when they'll move you over there. but they want you ready. >> m is a pretty good unit. usually pretty quiet. and it's working now. >> is it as big? i know next door is bigger than this. >> oh, yeah. this holds up to 200. 100 to a side. two to a cell. >> basically, my counselor came and talked to me and i'm supposed to be transferred to a different block today. i think at 12:45. basically, i'm just getting packed, talk to my roommate. i guess i was the first one up to go. i ain't really mad about it,
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though. >> as it turns out, stanley won't be transferring to another prison with his best friend after all. he'll be staying at wabash instead. >> it's going to be cool, dawg. >> later today, stanley will walk through the massive prison gates to his new adult cell block. he'll make the move with someone else he knows, youth unit cell housemate alexander rankin. >> i hope the transition is smooth. i know being who i am, i'm going to be talking to everybody. i've got to be associated with everybody. and he does too. so hopefully he just follows my lead, because i know how i can tuck myself around. it's going to go pretty smooth. pretty smooth. >> coming up -- >> south side. bed moves. >> we adults now. uh-oh. >> the move to the adult cell
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lundy is serving a 30-year sentence after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit murder in the shooting death of his stepdad. >> like afterwards, i couldn't even believe myself like what happened. how could i possibly be in this situation? you know, i went from a's and b's students to in jail. i didn't even know what to think at the time. every day i just think if i just would have, you know, like just done one thing different. i mean it's a waste of time to do that because you can't. once it's done, it's done. there is no going back. >> lundy's 12-year-old friend paul gingerich was sentenced to 25 years in wabash for his crime. but due to his age and size, department of correction officials placed him in pendleton juvenile correctional facility, which only houses youth offenders. >> most of the kids we get in our juvenile system are going to be here for six to 12 months
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tops. so i think that takes on a different dynamic when you have somebody like paul who is 12 years old who already knows, recognizes the fact that he is essentially going to have to grow up, go through puberty and adolescence in a correctional facility. i have to say that in those particular cases, the juvenile facility is the one best prepared to help him through that type of growth. >> it's for precisely these reasons that paul and his lawyer, monica foster, continue to fight to keep him in the system. >> we're trying to go to indiana supreme court to get appeals i can get waived down to juvenile again, help me change my sentence. >> sentenced as an adult, but held at pendleton juvenile, paul is stuck in a type of legal limbo. >> this is the first kid we've ever had who is a legal adult in a juvenile facility. so we're learning as we go, because we've never had to deal
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with this and what his situation brings to us. i mean, technically, we keep him until he is 21. well could do that. i don't imagine we'll have him until he is 21. but no one has really made that decision. we haven't crossed how long he'll stay here. >> i think the juvenile justice system is fully capable of dealing with this situation, and in fact they are fully dealing with it right now. he is in the juvenile justice system. if the judge's order stands, he won't be here for very much longer. but he is strives in this system. >> having worked in prison systems for many years, mike dempsey knows special steps must be taken when dealing with young inmates. >> there is a child involved. regardless of the offense they may have committed, you still have to weigh the fact that, you know, this is still a 12, 13, 14-year-old child. and they are not fully developed. you also have to weigh that against the nature of the crime that was committed. it becomes very difficult.
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>> along with a possibility of being moved to an adult prison, paul must grapple with the reality of spending at least the next decade behind bars. >> i don't think about the days. i just go day by day. just try to make it like i go by each meal. try to be good from each meal. >> if you want to build a permanent underclass of people who go out and commit terrible adult crimes, then you just send all these juvenile kids to adult facilities, because that's what you'll end up with. >> hey. >> i'm out of here! oh, man. >> it's been nearly a year since
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18-year-olds michael stanley and alexander rankin arrived on the youth unit at wabash. >> hey. >> today they transition to the wabash adult population, where they'll trade a unit of 53 kids for a cell block of 200 adults. prison staff say on transfer days, kids often mask their fear with bravado. >> remember that the secret word is no. >> i got you, granny. >> uh-oh. i feel like i'm going home. >> master control. >> south side, bed moves. >> who told you? basically see what is going on? >> for about a week. >> it's clear. >> we adults now. uh-oh. we're legal. ♪
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people don't know much about prison except what they see in movies and stuff like that. but the food is horrible. you got to wear a jumpsuit every day. you only come out of your cell a couple of hours every day. you got to be on guard all the time. you don't know what is going to happen. you don't have any freedom. freedom is the worst part. >> right here goes the door on the left. >> for the next few years, m cell block at wabash valley will be home for 18-year-olds alexander rankin and michael stanley. >> what do you think, man? >> small. it's small as hell. >> you're going to get the people in blocks, they want to fight, and got a lot of time.
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i get along with everybody. i catch on to stuff very quickly. so i'll be able to know who -- which what is going on. so one won't really get past me. >> 18 years earlier, greg went through the same transition as a 15-year-old. >> well, they're going through probably feeling extremely paranoid that a lot of guys are checking them out. that's no lie. for me, i was 15-year-old and baby-faced. i mean, at the time you had the guys in for sex crimes that have molested, juvenile, guys my age. and i'm doing time alongside of them. time in the shower with them. >> well, when i was 21 years old walking into be a correctional officer for the first time at the missouri state penitentiary, i was petrified. and i was just going in there to work. so obviously, particularly for a kid who is going into an environment like that, without question it's got to be the scariest thing that they've ever gone through. >> can i step out and get some air real quick?
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>> it's extremely sensitive and crucial that you think for yourself and you do what you think is right and not what you think someone else wants you to do, that you know within yourself is wrong. >> while stanley and rankin face new challenges in their adult cell block, 12-year-old paul gingerich has similar issue, even in the juvenile system. >> the difficulty is just keeping him safe. typically kids are much larger, and they're the type of kids who like to mess or pick on the smaller kids. it is difficult. he is an easy target, even in a juvenile facility. >> do you think about wabash at all and what that is like? >> try not to. i don't know what i'll be expecting when i go down there. >> for now wabash will remain a mystery to paul gingerich. but for others like robert, it's
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like a second home. >> i've always been in trouble. i've always been in juvenile. i've been in placements. i went to vegas, went to boot camp. i mean, i always been in trouble. >> beehler landed in prison on charges of battery and threatening to kill a police officer. he is currently in segregation for starting a fight. >> okay. so name off for me all the people in your family who are in prison. >> my brother brady. my cousin -- my brother kenny, he is in georgia. my cousin is in georgia. my uncle williams, he -- my cousin james. my uncle ricky, he is somewhere. i forget where he is, though. >> is your mom in the picture at all, dad? >> my father got killed. he died in front of kenny's face. >> your dad got killed in front of you? >> uh-huh. >> how? >> we were in the house. somebody got through the door.
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and my dad opened up the door. dude was like your [ bleep ] pushed him, i guess, and he started pushing. my dad ran back in to where we was at, and he fell on the ground. he start fighting for breath and he stopped breathing. >> how old were you? >> 14. >> what did you do after that? >> made threats. >> my parents had permission to bring him down with them. but never had the visit. never had the visit. >> this isn't a kid that we should say there is no hope for you. it's just -- it's unfathomable. >> when i get out, i'm not ever messing up again, because i know what it's like in here. like really, not just on tv, but really what it's like to experience it.
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it's a surreal landscape. inmates like robert who has been in the juvenile system all his life, his dad killed in front of him, seven family members behind bars. kids like paul gingerich, never in trouble with the law, suddenly locked up at age 12. now serving 25 years in prison. you can't spend time with these kids and not ask the question where did it all go wrong. >> growing up, i never really realized the path that i was headed. like it's not that i couldn't have seen it. i just never took the time out. it really -- it didn't hit me until the judge sentenced me to 36 years.
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and then it's like oh my god. the rest of my life could be gone. i don't believe that there was anything that could have helped me besides for this. >> six months after we met miles, we went back to see him at wabash. now in the adult population, we asked about the visit with his son. >> never had the visit. never had the visit. my parents, you know, they had the paperwork to bring him down with them, but, you know, she didn't want them to. i'd like to tell my son i love him, you know, and hopefully, you know, if i get out, he never remembers any of this. because he is still young. >> there is a lot of people. it's like day one all over again. >> i just hope some of my friends are listening to me, you know. some of my friends that were out there, running in the streets with me, doing all those bad things that we did, terrorizing people. it could all change in one day by the stupid decisions you make. >> as for paul gingerich, lawyer
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monica foster continues to fight to have his sentence appealed. >> i would expect that we'll have an opinion by the end of the year or very early next year. we're going to be asking for oral argument, and i will be making a pest of myself as best i can within the rules. this isn't a kid that we should say there is no hope for you. it's just -- it's unfathomable. >> i like to keep things like in perspective. i've almost been locked up a year now. and i remember what it's like to be outside, you know, and do those things. and i just -- you got to keep that mind-set like, you know, i'm going to be able to do them again some day. you can't be thinking about negative things. and if you do, you're just going to sit in here and destroy yourself every day.
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>> for me, it took 13 years for me to actually say -- it sounds a little cliche, and maybe to me it sounds cliche because i've heard it so much. but to actually say i forgive myself. it took me 13 years. i could understand why i did it and tell a story about what happened. i know what i was thinking back then. i know what i was feeling, and i know i didn't want to do it, but i felt trapped. and no one was helping me, even though i was asking and pleading for help. no one was helping. and it happened. but i'm able to tell myself now that i have something to offer, that i'm actually -- i like to think i have more to offer because i've been on both sides. >> i mean, i'm remorseful for what i did. but i mean, it takes more than that. i mean, once you've done something, you can say sorry all you want, but, i mean, there was a crime done, and you have to serve your punishment. you learn from everything in
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your life. everything you do, cars, you know, who you become. like i said, if you do nothing, you become nothing. >> man, if somebody would come here and just like give me a second chance, i'd be so happy, because i know now that when i get out, i'm not ever messing up again, you know, because i know what it's like in here. like really, not just on tv, but really what it's like to experience it. >> i don't wish nobody bad or nobody. i wish nobody would ever have to get locked up. but people do what they k do. all they can do is learn from what they done. but i'm just going say next time you see me, it's going to be out there somewhere positive, though, for sure. dear crew.
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how are you been doing? i hope good. i was thinking about it the other day. i'm definitely not the person described in the old newspaper article, but really, it wasn't far off from what i used to be. sometimes i read that article and it seems crazy to say that was me. i was so lost. i learned over the years i am a person of extremes. that can be a really good thing or a really bad thing. when you have a person like me on the wrong path, it gets bad quick. but likewise, if i'm doing the right thing, i can't be stopped. i can't explain how a place like this can make a person feel. you never appreciate how beautiful this world is until you've seen it from behind this fence. some day when i finally get out from behind these bars, i hope i'll be able to show you and everyone else the person i've become. until then, i work harder than ever to keep my head up and keep smiling. sincerely, miles. >> dear karen, i received your letter tonight at rec. since the last time you were here, i've changed a lot. day to day life in prison is very taxing on your mental state. you really have to learn fast or
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you will get ripped off and what not. but i'm doing pretty good. it was funny. the other day i heard someone on the phone say she was dreading to have to spend three hours at her grandparents. and i was thinking to myself how wonderful it would be to be able to stay at my grandparents. it amazes me how different life is in prison. it's like a whole different world behind these walls, and i remember how i was and think of how many kids are out there being dumb. they don't even realize it only takes one bad choice. that's all it takes to take away a good chunk of your life to this horrible place. if i could send a message to all the kids around the world, it would be something like this. you're not untouchable. have fun and do what you want, but always think before you do something. nothing is worth being locked away from your family, friends, and freedom. i'll go for now, sincerely, colt lundy.
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>> announcer: due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. thank you. >> good luck. >> you, too. >> good luck. >> open 501. >> like a dog like in a cage. there ain't nothing you can do. >> during the crime there was a lot of panic, fear. things just got out of hand, you know what i mean? >> once you pull that trigger,
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