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the red carpet is hot and so are the candidates. someone toss that man a towel. it's time turn off your cell phones and step inside the real no spin zone. so xwrab a snack or maybe a slice of pizza and welcome your master of ceremonies and the host of "politics nation" al sharpton. ♪ >> good morning. it's never too early to dress up nice. this is my favorite time of year, i'm thrilled to bring you the revvies once again. straight to our distinguished panel. joining us this morning, michael steele and erin mcpike. i think michael is still in his tux from last night. one of the big republican parties. >> all night. >> also with us amy holmes and jimmy williams. thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let's get straight to it. we start with a blockbuster
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award, the revie for the person with the biggest political impact of 2015. of course, it has to go to donald trump, but which trump? is it trump the insult comic? >> jeb bush is a low energy person. for him, to get things zone hard. i haver in seen a young person sweat like rubio. do we agree? i've never seen, he drinks more water he's like a machine. rick perry should have to have an iq test before coming on the debate stage. i never attacked him on his look and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there that i can tell you. >> jebber in did get over that low energy thing. also nominated for this award, humble trump. >> i'm really rich. i'll share that. i have some of the greatest assets in the world. i'm not saying this in a
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bragadocious way. i built a great company. everybody loves me. i went to the wharton school of finance. i'm like a really smart person. >> of course there was trump demagogue. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists and some, i assume, are good people. and we do have to look at the mosques very carefully. the mosques a lot of things are happening in there, folks. i don't know what's wrong with obama. there's something we don't know about. total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> and the blockbuster award goes to trump, the demagogue. michael, do you agree? >> well, he did do it very well. more than anything else that has stoo stood out more than all the other trumps that we've seen and it's unfortunately shaped the nature of the campaign thus far, sort of the hot button issues that drew people into the
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conversation starting with his perspective on the mexican community in this country and those who want to come in across the border. so you know, that language unfortunately has sort of set the tone for what we've seen play out. now, the test will be, as we turn into a new year, and voters really do focus in right before the vote whether or not they get turned off but i don't show that happening so far. >> has it also dumbed down the republican party's image and perception to serious voters, jim? >> is that a softball question? you're asking one heck of a liberal here. that was the nicest thing i've gotten all year. let me answer it in a serious way no, because i don't think the republican electorate is dumb. they are republicans. democrats are democrats and no one cares about either party, at least people in the middle, independents, what we know the
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independents are the largest bloc of voters in the country. the democrats and the republicans are shedding voters every single day because people are just so turned off because of this sort of stuff. the republican electorate is smarter than people give them credos for if you will. don't think for a millisecond that that sliver, the people that really believe it if you will on the left and the right don't either love or hate and listen to what donald trump is saying. there is this populism going on in the country, people care about it. this has been around since the beginning of the republic and he is not the first to do it and will not be the last to do it. the question becomes, can he become the nominee, i still don't think he can. >> i disagree. >> i knew that was going to happen. >> the honorable republican donald trump has defied expectations all the way
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through, for the last six months we thought the tea party might have been dead the last three years and that is not the case. the tea party is very much alive and donald trump is the king, and we thought that donald trump might have a ceiling of 25% support in the republican party. he's blown right through that. at the end of the year he's close to 40%. there is no evidence he's not going to get the nomination at this point. >> why have they not been able to capitalize on the tea party fervor that we thought was no longer there but clearly is there? why trump? >> give ted cruz some time, and we see that he's now leading in iowa, we'll find out if that catapults him beyond iowa. ted cruz is gaining steam. i think you forgot about donald trump and his bromance with vladimir putin. >> imagine if that was a
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democrat. >> exactly. apparently enjoying it but i this think it's to your point donald trump is attracting voters across the ideological spectrum when asked how they self-identify and donald trump is tapping into this yearning, longing for strength in our commander in chief and i got to say there would be no donald trump if there also went that he past year a failure particularly on the foreign stage of president barack obama. >> well, we'll argue about that, but before we do, michael, we've seen this before in terms of the popularism, but is trump being helped by his celebrity and his entertaining persona and have we seen that mixture before? >> we are witnessing the marriage of reality television with politics. >> right. >> there's always been this sort of dance, if you will, between the east coast/west coast. east coast politics, west coast hollywood, movies, tv, and of
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course the big playing ground watts always the wausshington correspondents dipp s dinner. >> i've seen you at a couple. >> everyone comes in and pretends and does the froufrou thing. trump is taking reality television going into the first part of this, the demagoguery, the brashness, loud noise, the big bang that you hear, he's bringing that into the political consideration which jimmy has always been so polite and elegant and mild about, and now you have this conversion in which that brashness is being played out in front of everyone. >> but the question becomes, jimmy, if he is the nominee in the fall, as erin is saying he's headed toward, how does that contrast with a more cerebral hillary clinton, if she's the nominee? are we going to have a culture clash as well as a political clash? >> everything in politics rests on what's happening with the
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economy and whether or not the country feels safe on election day. no one at this roundtable will deny that. if the economy continued to do what it's doing, humming along as opposed to revving along, get it, revvie awards, but that's happening and there have been no attacks and the middle east hasn't blown up once again then i think the country will go with a staid leader as opposed to hyperbole. there's the willing suspense of disbelief, i was a literature major. you have to suspend all ration for the plot to work out. that's the hollywood aspect of it, that's the literature aspect of it, but nobody believes that harry potter is a real figure. no one believes on election day that donald trump is a real figure. he's a tv person. >> so the niceness and all will return and people that are polite, you know, nice, polite -- >> women decide every election. >> people like me.
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>> sure. >> for this business i hope not, as an american citizen obviously you want to see seriousness but there's been another irony this year of the republican debates being both huge in terms of viewership and attracting all of these eyeballs because of donald trump being on stage, i believe that but also giving voters a chance to see the diversity of opinion among republican candidates and educate that public. here is the irony. does it really matter? i would say trrp trrp probably lost most of them. he's not the most best debater on state. >> let's move on to the irrelevant in the room. going to the republican candidate who had the worst year. erin, who is your pick? >> i am so sorry to say this because he is such a nice man and so smart and pragmatic. >> she's getting ready to slam somebody. >> i just, i feel so sad to say this, buff' got to give it to jeb bush.
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the poor guy. i feel so bad for him. i really do. >> he did raise $100 million. >> he did but he missed his moment. the conservatives, the republican party so desperately wanted him to announce his candidacy in 2011 and run against barack obama in 2012 and he just couldn't do it because he really knew that barack obama was probably not going to lose in 2012, but now the republican party wants nothing to do with jeb bush. >> amy, you're a republican leader, what happened? >> i'm not a republican nor a leader, only adds toing you. >> you want me to turn to wine? >> it is the holidays after all. you know, jeb bush is not the man of the moment and he was very rusty being out of politics for so long. we've seen this and he really sat back and let trdonald trump steal the show. should i come out swinging or maintain the high ground? jeb bush didn't know what to do.
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i would nominate someone else for this award, rick perry. how quickly did his candidacy fold? this was supposed to be his big comeback, nobody is talking about him. >> michael, would you agree with rick perry as the irrelevant one or would you agree with jeb bush? >> i'd say everyone other than trump. >> everyone. >> yep. >> including cruz and rubio. >> yes. what's their poll number? i mean to the points that have been made trump has come into the game, he sucked the oxygen out of the room and the establishment candidates even the so-called outside candidates had no plan, no clue how to deal with this guy, this reality tv figure who is now come into their space, that they've owned and occupied for a long time and changed the nature of the conversation. so if you're talking about irrelevancy in terms of how the voters are looking at them, how the voters view them to amy's point, why the voters are tuning in to watch the debates, yes, 15
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other individuals on the stage. >> scott walker who? >> he would get an honorable mention. i'm with barbara bush on this, she's right, no more bushes. i think she was right about that. the sad part is she should have told her family before she told america on tv. there is a certain amount of bush and clinton fatigue in this world amongst the electorate. timing is everything. do i think that there are a lot of women that are amped up and pumped about a woman possibly being president? certainly that is the case. there is a general mood amongst women in the country that it's time for a woman but on the bush side, that's what this award is about, i think people say okay, we still have a bit of a bitter taste in our mouth about george w., and do we really want to have that, is that the ticket again really? bush versus clinton? the answer is no. >> george started to look smarter ef day. we're just getting started.
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more revvies are on the way. >> the revvies will be right back with president owe pa ma, bernie sanders and stephen colbert, also the return of those llamas on the loose, and the famous pete arat. but first, last night we handed out the revvie for best sound effects, the nominees were jeb bush. >> woo! ♪ do, do, do, rrr. >> hillary clinton for her real life laugh track. and of course donald trump for a range of noises. >> she's got that good pitter bat patter like a machine gun. bing, bing, bing. ay-yi-yi. the bing, bing, bang, bang, boom. >> and the revvie went to jeb bush. governor what do you have to say about that? woo! ♪ do, do, do, do
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welcome back to the fifth abum revvie awards, broadcast from fabulous rockefeller center in the heart of new york city, here's your host, al sharpton. >> we're back with our panel. we turn now to the year in social justice and civil rights, and it was definitely a mixed bag. we saw the riots in baltimore after the death of freddie gray, and outrage over the police shootings of walter scott, laqwan mcdonald, sam dubose and many others, but we also saw the confederate flag come down inob new prison rules to help
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non-violent offenders get back into society, and americans across the country celebrated the right for everyone to marry. so in a first for the revvies the justice award goes to five people, the supreme court justices who made gay marriage the law of the land, and i've said many times you can't support civil rights for some but not for others. so jimmy, was it two steps forward and one step backward kind of year when it comes to social justice? >> well, i mean look, social progress is always a slow walker, isn't' it, and so i think look, the marriage equality thing i think was a long time coming especially in light of the court decision a year before that. the two steps back with regard to lgbt is you can get married and go for your honeymoon and in 30 something states you can come back from your honeymoon and be fired because you're gay. that's the layoff the land so
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that's a problem. that's just within the lgbt sphere. when it comes to the issue of what's happening in black america i think, i see, look, i don't want another person to die because of the color of their skin. it's going to happen. it is. because this is america, and we have a sad history when it comes to this, but i think that with social media, and with civil rights being so in the forefront, you can't get away from it. >> right. >> no matter what. if that's the case, listen, i'm from south carolina. i lived in the house nine blocks from mother emmanuel. the flag needed to come down way before that. but it's down now and that's a wonderful thing. has it changed civil rights in america? i wouldn't say it changed t it's gotten rid of one more bad thing.
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>> but the flag coming down and governor huckabee at one of the funerals and all but the fundamental change in black america, the sentencing issue that the president to deal with, some of the policing issues raised, social media showed more, but i don't know that it is too accurate to say we haven't had these problems a long time and many of us have not been fighting them. >> i agree with you on that point, and i would look at this in three ways. the first is the confederate flag came down, right. so everyone is standing there on the lawn watching the flag come down, applauding, is great but you still have a country club that black folks can't go to. >> that's right. >> you still have white only country clubs. >> a mile from that flag. >> the flag that the cadets. >> at the citadel military college. >> that's right and the piece you just talked about, what we
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see happening whether it's in the criminal justice community, with regard to policing, and how that has now been exposed through social media, through good reporting, and those who have had a consense about this and the third piece which i like to see us have more conversation on, something you've been engaged in reverend over the years, more internal to black folks, how do we go forward in the face of these two pieces that still stand and start contrast everything else that we've seen this past year. how do we as a community go out and have this conversation with ourselves about how we are, what is our role in this country? we built this place. we have ownership in it. when do we begin to turn our head around and face the facts of black on black crime if you want to use that euphemism but more importantly what is happening in education and job creation and small businesses within our own community that we have a direct stake in because we don't support that black business, we don't speak up when
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that kid is sitting in a failing classroom and we do not pay attention to exactly what type of behaviors we have. >> we also have voting rights that's still out there, affirmative action in front of the supreme court, still challenges going on in 2016. >> i think the other thing to look at here is the importance of the right in helping successes, because i would argue that generally the left is always leading on social change but both on gay marriage and on the confederate flag coming down you saw republican buy-in on both issues. you may know paul singer, this wealthy billionaire, here billionaires are wealthy here, here in new york he led a group of conservatives to push for gay marriage behind the scenes. >> right. >> once you got conservatives on board, for these things to happen there are successes, and let me also add that governor nikki haley of south carolina was among republicans saying now it's time for the confederate flag to come down.
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>> she wasn't always there. >> she wasn't. >> how to get more conservatives to buy in, amy and affirmative action started under richard nixon. you wouldn't know that now. how could we get more buy-in from conservatives while at the same time keep the progressive community energized? >> you have to look for places of common ground, something senator rand paul is doing in working with cory booker on drug issues and sentencing so you're fighting those sorts of places where yes, you can get republican and conservative buy-in, but i think it's also up to other civil rights leaders to be inclusive and willing to sit at the table and not demonize conservatives simply because they arrived at the goal from a different path. so for example, education reform, supporting school choice, supporting parents that want to send their kids to the best schools they can. you look at ferguson for example and the tragedy there. we have the trang gedy of the yg man killed but also economically
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depressed town, like this is the last thing folks need. what can we do to rebuild theis with, create more opportunity and hope and get more black young men in particular graduating from high school and going on to college. that's how you can get conservative support. >> we have to go and stay tuned. we have a lot more revvies coming up. >> we'll be right back with more of the fifth annual revvie awards.
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clinton's van trying to get a glimpse. >> we'll see her very soon. >> guy in the orange pants is pretty quick. >> and the revvie went to the llamas. it was the llmazing chase. back to your host al sharpton. >> our next revvie is a "politics nation" favored, the alfred c. sharpton blueberry pie lifetime achievement award. every year we look around and ask who has the most blue write pie on his face? this year it goes to the gop's benghazi committee chairman republican congressman trey gowdy. he swore the work wouldn't take long. >> i would like to be through as quickly as possible. i have no interest, zero interest in you and i having this conversation in 2016. >> he swore the committee wasn't targeting hillary clinton, but
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then it came crashing down. first, a high-ranking republican blew gowdy's cover. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. >> and then the committee hauled in clinton for an epic hearing. it was gruelling. it was endless. it was an endurance contest. over eight hours of testimony, and it produced some memorable images. look, like clinton, totally not impressed. and clinton brushing dust off her shoulder, jay-z would have been proud. gowdy talked afterwards about what he'd learned. >> what are the most important new things you learned today?
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>> oh, i think some of jimmy jordan's questioning, when you say new today, we knew some of that already. we knew about the e-mails, in terms of her testimony? >> um-hum. >> i don't know that she testified that much dirvfferent today than she has previous times she testified. i'd have to go back and look at the transcript. >> so congratulations, chairman gowdy. you get a heaping serving of blueberry pie. the revvies return with stephen colbert, hillary clinton and donald trump's eyebrows. yikes! also, a possible tear jerker, will the academy give john boehner a revvie on his way out? stay tuned. at&t knows the best kind of holiday... is the kind where everyone gets what they wished for. make this holiday extra happy when you buy one get one free on our most popular smartphones...
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the awards for the best political vine. the nominees were bernie sanders for the moves on the ellen show. donald trump for his amazing expressions during a presidential debate. can your face do that? and john boehner for his emotional reaction to the pope's historic visit to congress. so get out your hachk hankies, and don't cry if your favorite didn't win because the revvie went to donald trump. congratulations, donald trump. nobody can raise eyebrows like you can. now, back to the show. >> we're back here at the revvies. now let's turn to an award where the politics is really cutthroat. late night tv. it's the revvie for best newcomer, and it goes to a familiar face, stephen kohl
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bert. in 2015, he left his old character behind, taking on a new late night gig, while still making his mark in politics. >> marriage is a question for the states. and i don't think we should trust -- [ booing ] >> guys, however you feel he's my guest so please don't boo him. you said this week you don't know if you are emotionally prepared to run for president. >> i'd be lying if i said that i knew i was there. >> did you call donald trump and ask him to run for president of the united states? >> no. no. >> because that would be pretty smart, man. >> yes. >> colbert was great, but honestly, the award could have gone to all the late night hosts in 2015. >> have you ever excited young people before? >> not too often, no.
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>> couple questions about donald trump. >> i have to say, seth, i no longer think he's funny. >> how are you going to create jobs in this country? >> i'm just going to do it. >> but how? >> by doing it. it just happens. just by doing it. >> genius! >> erin, late night tv, isn't it more important for politics than ever? >> two big reasons, i think so. one because donald trump is in the race and knows how to use it. we saw equal time rules invoked because he hosted "saturday night live" which is a huge thing to do. >> i did that in fairness. >> fair enough but i do think it is the culmination of the obama presidency because president
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obama used an effectively cultivated the late night circuit throughout his presidency and also this is showing how important social media is, and the importance of moments going viral. >> late night tv, jimmy, more of a political factor now than we've seen in the past? >> i'm going to harken back to bill clinton on arsenio hall and richard nixon, yes, we are that old, michael. >> yes. >> the idea who wants to be or is president and use this media to make them look more human is a good thing, because i think what we have done is we have put these men and women on pedestals and made them inhuman, not unhigh main but inhuman in a way. this late night tv which is a wonderful brand across all the networks is a good phenomena -- it is real. it's not because it's tv, but it's real because they don't get to, there's no scripting of that kind of stuff. and it's comedy and it's music,
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all these wonderful things that people care about. >> if someone does not know how to effectively use tv, can they compete for president? amy, as we go forward into the 21st century? >> no, not since television was invented going back to the jfk/nixon debate. >> right. >> i think there's a a danger for candidates in late night television that it cashing ricas them and shrinks them down to a cartoon cutout. sarah palin and "saturday night live" having a field day with her. she never did say "i can see russia from my porch." >> i get the medium and its importance and the social media, which i think twitter and the internet and all of that is much more powerful a play than television in some respects but i do have a concern about the
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marginalization of the candidates dumbing it down, bringing them to a point where they don't look as presidential. >> shouldn't they just rise above? >> have they redefined what is "presidential"? >> exactly. that is their fault. do you fault, you know, clinton for putting on the dark glasses and playing the saxophone on arsen arsenio? no, i guess you wouldn't. but my point is, it's just a cautionary one, not one that's condemning, just cautionary that i think to everyone's point you have to be smart how you place your candidate in that setting, because at the end of the day, you're running for president of the united states, not to become a late night talk show host. >> everybody, stay with us. some big awards are on the way. >> folks, don't touch that dial. the fifth annual revvie awards will be right back. ♪
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withal come back to the world famous rockefeller center in new york city and the fifth annual revvie awards. here again is your host, the reverend al sharpton. >> we've covered a lot of ground here at the revvies. now let's turn to the democratic race for president. it's the revvie for best casting decision. going to the democrat who chose the right role in 2015. we've seen big twists and turns for the nomination fight. >> i am running for president of the united states. i have gone the extra step and gone through all of the e-mails. i am sorry that this has been confusing to people. >> that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damned e-mails. >> thank you, me too, me too. >> in case you haven't noticed,
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there are a lot of people here. >> we each run our own campaigns and i always assumed this would be competitive. >> we're doomed. we need a revolution! >> i know it's scary. he soubnds more like me than i sound like me. >> the rfie for best casting decision goes to a democrat who chose not to run, vice president joe biden, looked at a 2016 presidential politics and walked away from the stage. amy, smart move? >> maybe for him personally. we referenced him sitting down and talking about his son, bo, passing away and he couldn't put his heart into it. for the democratic field it would have been so much better to have him in it, on stage, discussing and debating policy from domestic to foreign policy and his six terms as a united states senator and deep experience now as a two-term
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vice president, i think it would have been an injection of intelligence into the campaign. >> was it a good move for him and the democratic party? >> i agree with everything she said. i think it would have made hillary clinton a better candidate had she had to fight joe biden for the nomination. i think it was a good decision for him. you heard in his announcement speech from the rose garden he declared curing cancer his moon shot. he'll do different things or staying out of this race, maybe you see if hillary clinton is elected president she could nominate joe biden to be say her secretary of state or something. it probably was the best decision for joe biden. >> michael? >> i'm not so much there. i think personally, yes, i'm sure it is because that journey is a difficult one when you lose a child but i think from a purely political space, i think it was not a good decision. i think he should have gotten in. i think he really wanted to get in. i think everything in his fiber pulled him towards that race
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because i think he feels and folks inside the abama administration feel there's a lot left on the table by hillary when it comes to what this administration has done or not done. to have an advocate in joe biden would have been important if not to the country, then social to the president. >> jimmy? >> i don't think it matsers. the one person in the world that is at complete and utter peace with his decision is joe biden and i don't think he cares what anybody else thinks and that's all that matters. >> that's all that matters? >> you got it. >> what do you think his impact would have been on the rahis? >> i'm a hillary supporter, have been there since day one, i think it would have made a great race, brought the cream rises to the top. he made the decision he made and by the way, you look at the pictures they took of him with the president in the oval office before he walked out, the president was looking at his speech with him going through it
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line by line. they are that close, those two people with the decision. >> hillary clinton would have tried to destroy him in this race and this way he gets to walk away as an extremely consequential vice president and remember, everyone loves joe. that is the lasting image of him and that's important. >> did hillary clinton have a tougher year than expected? >> oh, yes. six to seven months were horrible for her. it looked if she couldn't win the nomination if joe biden had gotten in. she walked away from the e-mail scandal pretty often. >> no, the fbi investigation is still ongoing. >> i would say this, though.
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this year he secured an historic agreement on climate change, reached a crucial deal in iran's nuke program and restored relations with cuba after more than 50 years. he also had moments that no other president could have pulled off like singing "amazing grace" at the mother emmanuel service. or his speech on what it means to love america at the 50th anniversary of the bloody sunday march across the edmund pettis bridge, a speech even the conservative review labeled a masterpiece. michael, disagree or agree with what he's done. >> he's the most consequential second term president in our history without a doubt. he's been able to work his will both in the house, the senate,
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across the political spectrum, and it is really i think thrown a lot of republicans off their game a little bit, not that there was so much of a game to begin with, but to the extent that they expected this president to sort of lie down from the bruisings and the noise and the calamity that has been washington for most of his term, it is very clear this president made his mind up that he's not going to go out like that. and that he was going to do those big things that he came to do. there's still things on the table and i think the most symbolic of those is gitmo, guantanamo bay, not getting that closed. we'll see, there is aa year left. >> he got a lot done. >> i've always called barack obama the macro president. i've always thought, if you talked with his advisers in the white house, it's about the vision, what is his legacy going to be?
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barack obama has never been bill clinton. who is with me, who do i have on capitol hill. that's never been his thing. that's for staff to do. in his mind it is i've got eight years, four years, possibly eight years, what is my legacy going to be as the first african-american president of the united states and how do i get that done. >> he's a driver. >> he's defied all washington expectations but he also has a legacy of gutting the democratic party, with the least number of governors, republicans taking over the senate, again to his credit he was able to drive his agenda using his executive pen for the most part with the republican controlled house and senate but this year has not been good to the president either. you remember he started out by saying isis was jv. it's clearly not. paris suffered a massacre of 130 people being killed. he said isis was contained. even with san bernardino he said the threat of radical islamic terrorism although he won't use
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that phrase is not going to become culture and it has. >> you have a feeling you're well dressed but there's dust on your shoe? >> there's pie in his face with these things. >> the threats as they are, he is certain to stay in the news and not just cede all of the news to, he has a lot going on. i would also say on an anecdotal level. when you're walking around washington and run into a senior administration official they will still say oh we've got more stuff coming. they have a full year coming. the other thing i would say, this is not just your standard lame duck president anyway because it's barack obama. barack obama came -- >> that does it for us. we had a lot of fun this morning. i thank our panel this year. they have been terrific. have a safe and happy new year. >> you've been watching the 2015
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