have this cuban heritage that allows them to speak personally to these issues. >> i'm sorry we ran right out of time here. we'll get you next time. thank you for joining us today. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." erica hill picks up our coverage next. tonight on msnbc live, three big developing stories. >> he was frantic because his wife was still trapped at the end of the house inside. >> twisters. golf ball size hail, flooding rains, freezing rain and blinding snow. a weather nightmare after christmas for tens of millions of americans. plus, this -- >> the police officers and the police department must live with the awful malice that their mistakes, however unintentional led to the death of a 12-year-old boy. >> a perfect storm of human error, but not a crime.

the grand jury said no charges in the controversial police shooting of tamir rice. reaction pouring in. five weeks until the first votes of the primary season. donald trump campaigning in one of the most important early states. good evening from new york, i'm erica hill a rough holiday weekend not showing any signs of letting up. the weather in many areas of the country is down-right dangerous tonight. tornado watches in effect throughout the southeast. flooding fears stretch from texas all the way to the ohio valley while snow and ice are headed to the midwest and parts of the northeast where an unseasonably warm start to winter is suddenly taking a very chilly turn. meteorologist matt leads off our weather coverage for us. good evening. >> good evening, erica. this storm is not a text book winter storm. it is a text book el nino year winter storm. that is to say an el nino year we flood the country with warmth. the result we get big storms is

this. just what you mentioned. we had the tornado reports. now a tornado watch continues in the panhandle of florida. on the back side of the storm you get the cold air. bringing snow to the rockies. now the snow extended to texas. it's pulling out of the plains. now taking aim on the northeast. not just in the upper great lakes, but boston, portland, maine, burlington, vermont. even through much of connecticut we expect to find sleet and freezing rain moving in late tonight and continuing during the morning. this will have an impact on the morning drive throughout the northeast corridor. in new york, it's mostly rain. when you get into boston, it's a mixture of rain and snow. another storm starts to gather strength on wednesday. we think this one mostly rain. the impacts coming through now are going to be significant. when you look at the area across the upper great lakes, for mississippi/st. paul, green bay, southern canada, north of toronto toward montreal, talking

about a span of 6-12 inches. in new england in particular, we expect to find 1/2 foot of snow when you get north of concord, new hampshire. ski country needs this. they are going to get it. snowmobile country needs it. they are going to get it. where we don't need it is boston, worcester, hartford and springfield. prolonged freezing rain. that may cause problem with travel and power outages. it will be a busy morning tomorrow morning. >> a rude awakens. matt noyes, thank you. we want to take you to hard-hit garland, texas, just outside of dallas. >> reporter: as you can tell, the cleanup is under way here in the town of garland. this is the apartment complex that was demolished here. these are a landmark apartments. this is where an ef-4 tornado with winds between 107 and 180 miles per hour, according to the

forecasters who were out here surveying the damage, this is the type of damage that will occur in that type of storm. they say that the path of the storm was 13 miles long at a width of 550 yards. it went through a large section of garland, texas, hitting hearts of roulette on to north. the eight fatalities were on the interstate. several cars swept off the road killing eight people inside. three people were also killed, two people in a gas station about eight miles from here were seeking shelter. then sadly an infant only 2 or 3 days old was killed when their parents' trailer was blown apart by a storm that continued moving to the north. the lucky news is the warnings went out and a lot of people heard them. not only by cell phone but broadcasting. then the sirens that were going

off here in town. a lot of people had an advanced warning. they say that saved many lives here. >> thankfully there were those warnings. thank you. developing news also to tell you about out of ohio where a grand jury today declined to indict any officers in the death of 12-year-old tamir rice who was killed by a cleveland police officer last year. >> based on the evidence they heard and laws that apply to police use of deadly force, the grand jury declined to bring criminal charges against cleveland police officers. that was also my recommendation as reviewing the investigation and the law. >> rice was holding a pelt gun when he was shot by officer timothy logan in 2014. the family reacting this afternoon. >> what i think mr. rice wanted was accountability.

she wanted someone to be held accountable for the killing of her 12-year-old son. that didn't happen here because this grand jury voted no true bill. i think this grand jury voted no true bill because they were influenced by the prosecutor who had determined that there were no criminal charges here. that no criminal charges should have been filed. >> i believe that was the attorney for mrs. rice. we want to bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber. is it fair to say in many ways this decision today based on what we learned in the last few weeks is not necessarily surprising? >> it's not surprising in the sense this prosecutor made it very clear that he was on the side of the officers. whether or not people agree or disagree with that approach, he had already taken his side and said he squabbled with the family, which that itself is unusual. you think of prosecutors being on the side of victims.

there is a 12-year-old child here killed, shot, dead. everyone agrees that is a tragedy. the question is, is it just tragedy or also a crime? on msnbc, i've been covering this today. we have in the last hour the full 70-page report which i've been going through. it reads like a defense counsel's argument why somebody should be charged. there it is up on the screen. the prosecutors typically say here is why we should charge, do you have my back? here the prosecutor said today in his press conference he recommended no charges. he went to this empanelled grand jury of regular citizens, could be you or me, and he said based on my expertise and how long i've been doing this, you shouldn't charge the police. what do you want to do? no surprise, the grand jury accepted his view. >> a couple of things he said that stood out. i think we have the sound. as he talked about a bit of

evidence which he said influenced the decision not to file charges. >> on close examination, especially the most critical piece of evidence, a very recent enhancement of the surveillance video by an expert laboratory often relied upon by the fbi, it is now indisputable that tamir was drawing his gun from his waist as police slid toward him and officer lowman exited the car. >> it is now indisputable because this has been up for dispute since the beginning. >> yeah. here is your quick guide. that's not true. it's not indisputable. there's the video. you can enhance it all you want. it is at best murky. you can make the argument when it's murky, tie goes to the officer and this was a gun that did look realistic. you could make that argument. i think the prosecutor there, you know me when there's both

sides i'll tell both sides. when it is what it is, i'll tell you. that is a comparison of the toy gun to the real gun. if we go back to the video of that incident there, it is not clear. it is a couple of seconds. it is a 12-year-old boy they say looked older. whatever. the officer pull up and shoot him down. i think the prosecutor give away his bias saying it's undisputed. i think it's a tough call. in this case, they are saying when you look at the other image it did look like a gun. the officers made a split-second decision. again, this was a 12-year-old boy. they didn't stop and use any other medium force techniques. they went straight to deadly force. i've got a prosecutor saying there is no doubt in miss mind it was justified. >> there are people that are. the other thing that stood out to me, he went on to say, "we,

too, want justice for tamir," then suggested going through the civil system. how common is that for a prosecutor to say go the civil route? >> this is a prosecutor who made it clear from the start he didn't think it was a crime. if that's how he feels, he shouldn't have presented the grand jury in the first place. what if they did return charges? he would say thanks, but i disagree with this. this is why people are losing faith. it seems like a charade where some prosecutors, not all, are pulling in the grand jury to cover for their decision. if you didn't think it was a crime, it wasn't fair to put this before a grand jury. this was a pelt gun you could see as a threat. the officers pulled up and made a split-second decision. a tragic mistake, the prosecutor called it. i don't think this prosecutor put to rest the questions of whether this was fairly and independently investigated.

that is not only disservice to the family, but the officers. the questions are looming because he looked more like officers defense counsel than a fair and impartial fact finder. >> thanks. turning to politics, in less than an hour, donald trump will speak to a crowd of supporters in new hampshire. people packing that room will likely have heard about this, major newspaper new hampshire's front page editorial today titled "trump campaign insults new hampshire voters intelligence." trump fired back at the man who wrote it joe mcquaid. >> he is a real low life, no question about it. on top of that, he does this i knew he would do it because i didn't do his debate. his debate turned out to be a total failure. >> nbc news campaign is live in na nashua ahead of the event. how is the editorial playing in

new hampshire with voters there? >> reporter: so donald trump is set to hold a rally here tonight. is there a crowd of people gathering and they're inside. the people here aren't really too concerned about the editorial. however, it was in the "union leader," the biggest newspaper here in new hampshire. the editorial was above the fold so it was in a very prominent position. just the last hour on msnbc, we saw the publisher of the newspaper who wrote the editorial said that he wasn't concerned with the attacks trump said. and that this was all really expected after the newspaper ended up endorsing chris christie just after thanksgiving of this year. >> thank you. still to come, a developing news out of iraq tonight. iraqi forces now saying they have retaken the city of ramadi. we'll look at what this means in the fight against isis. plus another police shooting in chicago has that city on

edge. family and friends of the victims demanding answers as the calls for mayor rahm emanuel to step down grow louder. we are live in chicago for the latest. more donald trump coming your way. the candidate on the attack. this isn't about the newspaper in new hampshire. he is taking aim at former president clinton bill clinton. .

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turning to developing news out of iraq. iraqi troops have taken back control of the key city of ramadi, a significant victory over isis which seized control in may. today forces celebrated in the streets after several days of intense fighting. the victory comes on the heels of a rare new public message from isis leader who claims that the caliphate is getting stronger, despite coalition air strikes in syria and iraq. separately, several european capitals are on high alert after austrian officials this weekend word of a possible plot leading up to the new year. chapman bell is following all this from london tonight. what's the latest in terms of the lane ration of ramadi? there have been conflicting reports. >> an iraqi military spokesman did say that the city had been liberated, but both iraqi and

u.s. military leaders agree there is still work to be done in ramadi. there's some areas still under the control of isis. the number of militants has been significantly reduced and their ieds and booby traps that need to be found and destroyed. the main government complex is back under an iraqi flag there. this has been months of preparation involving thousands of fighters and coalition support. the u.s. military saying this has included more than 600 air strikes since july and they've been training iraqi military and police forces. an iraqi brigadier general and spokesman told nbc news iraqi forces launched a major military operation in southern parts of fallujia. they say they are coming to

liberate. it was almost embarrassing the way iraqi forces lost these key cities to isis. this is a morale booster and appears to be the first of many battles to come as they retain territory with u.s. support. >> there is this terror threat in europe we learned about from austrian police. >> vienna police said over the weekend a friendly intelligence service warned numerous european capitals of the possibility of a shooting or bomb attack before the new year. security has been beefed up across the continent. it's safe to say after the paris attacks, no country wants to take any chances. chapman, thank you. for more on the fight against isis, let's turn to steve clemens, washington editor at large for "the atlantic." nice to see you. there were differing reports initially in terms of how much control iraqi forces had over

ramadi. there is no denying the important symbolism of taking back that city. how confident are you tonight based on what we know that this city will fully be under iraqi control shortly? >> i'm confident it will. it's a fully surrounded city. key parts of the city are clearly back under the iraq government's control. the southern part of ramadi continues to be complicated. one disconcerting bit of news is some of the fighters are fading into the woodwork and population, which means down the road we may see this kind of insurgent tactics isis was involved with before it controlled this city and territory. it's a significant move. it's a very important morale booster and there are problems. this city will be taken back by iraq and they'll be able to focus their attention on other

challenges like fallujah and mosul. >> there's been talk about this new audio message from al baghdadi. i'm sure the contents are not a coincidence. >> intelligence analysts are saying the tape was probably made a couple of weeks ago so it preceded what was happening. while he said the caliphate is still strong, he intimated that the appearances, the overt and external parts of the caliphate are going to look under pressure and there would be troubled times. and people shouldn't lose doubt. it was a sign, if you will, the pressure on isis and baghdadi that drove him to issue this tape. >> there was this report last week we got that isis controlled territory in syria and iraq has now shrunk some 14% in the past not quite year. we are talking more and more

about the reach of isis into, not only other countries, but even other regions. did those two cancel one another out or is isis starting to lose some of its strong hold? >> i think it's very clearly losing one of the key cities. ramadi is second only to mosul in iraq in importance. when you begin to look at isis down in libya and what it's doing in not only syria, we tend to talk about syria and iraq but not other parts of the broad middle east. it is disconcerting. one of the things we saw was a whack-a-mole where you would clobber them and they would pop-up somewhere else. they have ability to move that perhaps we premented. it is disconcerting to -- there is a book called "holy war inc"

about the department of war spoils with isis. if that moves to libya, this goes on and on. >> libya, the access from libya. in that same message there was a call to saudis to join the fight. why is that significant? >> because the saudi arabia is the custodian of the two moly mosques. they are the kingdom, center, the heart of the sunni arab world. isis is fighting in the minds and hearts of many sunnis as their champions in a world where everyone else is abandoning the sunnis. to call out for the saudi people disaffected or alienated right now for whatever reason, i think is a way to go back home, if you will, to try to garner support. i'm sure the saudi government is repulsed by the call, but nonetheless, it's important to realize sometimes the

governments are in a different place than their public's and we need to take that into account. >> always good to have you help us put it into perspective. still to come here, anger in chicago over more police shootings. a grandmother accidentally killed by officers leaving many questioning whether the city is doing new. we are live in chicago next. once upon a time, donald trump called the clintons friends, very nice people. comments from the republican front-runner today are anything but amicable. what he is now saying about the former president and his main democratic rival.

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friends and family are demanding answers tonight after two people were shot and killed by chicago police over the weekend. it happened early saturday morning when police say they responded to a domestic disturbance. police fatally shot a 19-year-old college student who police say was acting combative.

according to police a 55-year-old neighbor and grandmother betty jones was accidentally shot and also killed during that encounter. chicago mayor rahm emanuel announced a number of police reforms after this latest shooting. those grieving say officials have once again failed residents. >> police shooting. why you got to shoot first and ask questions later? it's ridiculous? somebody needs to do something about this. this is ridiculous. >> sara, good evening to you. >> good evening. chicago's mayor is responding quickly to these deaths, introducing what he is describing as significant reforms to the police department. the first is a new policy that automatically places an officer on administrative duty to keep them out of the field for 30 days following a police-involved shooting as their training and

fitness for duty is evaluated. the second is a review of crisis intervention and deescalation policies. the guidance when dealing with an emotionally troubled on mentally ill subject. according to relatives, the young man had been struggling with mental illness the past few months and was reportedly threatening his father with a baseball bat prompting that 911 call. the mayor said, "while the investigation is under way, we must make real changes within our police department today, and it is clear that changes are needed to how officers respond to mental health crises." the mayor decided to cut his vacation to cuba short. he says he is coming back to chicago to continue rebuilding trust between police and the community. he is expected back in town tomorrow. >> i know there's been a significant amount of reaction to the mayor's reforms there. >> that is correct.

the pastor of betty jones, the 55-year-old mother and grandmother killed is calling it a crisis of confidence within the chicago police department. others are saying this is too little, too late. you saw that emotion in that sound play a minute ago. why wasn't nonlethal force used in this case? why a rush to pull out a gun and fire shots? it will come back to this crisis intervention technique. right now the training in the department is voluntarily. reportedly less than 20% of chicago police officers participated in it. >> thank you. still to come on msnbc live, donald trump's republican rivals are firing back. what they are saying about his candidacy. stunning allegations about one of the nfl's top quarterbacks, peyton manning saying he might sue over a report claiming he used

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hillary thinks she can unleash her husband with his terrible record of women abuse while playing the women's card on me, he's wrong." last night he wrote, "hillary clinton announced she is letting her husband out to campaign, but he demonstrated a penchant for sexism, so inappropriate." good to have all of you with us. we learned a date when former president bill clinton will begin stumping for hillary clinton, that first week of january. donald trump going after him pretty firmly and directly, but let's take a listen to what he had to say about both hillary and bill clinton in 2008. >> hillary is a great friend of mine. her husband is a great friend of mine. they are fantastic people. the thing, they get a bad knock. she is a nice woman. people think tough, and i guess

she is tough but she is a very nice woman and he is a nice guy. we know how spart they are, but they are good people. >> ken, while i imagine among his supporters that, flip-flopping between 2008 and 2015 isn't going to matter much. could it ultimately hurt him? >> certainly in a general election should he win the nomination. obviously republicans are keeping their fingers crossed that doesn't happen. but the one thing we've seen from donald trump is the only thing that is consistent about him is that he has no consistency. there is no clear ideological vision. there is no clear personal affiliation with either party or politicians from any party. he can say and do whatever. his supporters don't get turned off. his attacks on hillary clinton to the extent there is any strategy there appear to be an effort to try and turn women voters against her. come on. that's not going to happen. and particularly coming from donald trump who has his own

record of offensive statements and comments and behavior towards women. it's puzzling, at best. >> ken brought up the lack of consistency for donald trump which we talked about a number of times. after he goes after bill clinton, is bill clinton himself an effective target for donald trump who is trying to drum up additional support? >> it might be. what donald trump is trying to do now is show that he is a serious republican as the calendar turns from 2015 to 2016. republicans don't want to see him attacking republicans any more. this is the time when the primary is getting really serious. really, the republicans want to see republican candidates targeting hillary clinton. i think that's all this is. it is not surprising for a republican candidate for president to be attacking the presumed democratic nominee who is hillary clinton. of course, the clintons come as a package deal. that is why donald trump is attacking them. >> as we know, while he may be the front-runner, donald trump

is not the only republican running here. mike huckabee released a new ad calling out ted cruz. >> as ted cruz traveled through iowa, he said he shares our values. truth is, there are two teds. listen to cruz raise money in new york city from liberals who don't share our conservative iowa values. >> would you say it's a top three priority for you fighting gay marriage? >> no. >> victoria, two avenues on this one. number one, for mike huckabee's supporters to release this, how does that impact mike huckabee who is not registering highly in any poll at this point? and number two, is it part of a broader plan to derail ted cruz? why would that work for huckabee? >> whenever a candidate decides to go negative, we know they are in a perilous situation. they are trying to punch up, they are trying anything they can grasp on to to get traction

in the campaign. as we know, we are looking at ted cruz' numbers, not just nationally, but in iowa. then we look at mike huckabee's which are in the single digits. they are not registering in many states. you can see why mike huckabee or folks who support him are going this route. there is such a gulf between mike huckabee and ted cruz that i don't know if this is going to do it. mike huckabee was the flavor of the year in 2008, early 2000s, but right now, it's ted cruz. he has been working so hard to cultivate that evangelical vote in iowa. let's not forget ted cruz coming out of texas, my home state, that is his base. he knows evangelicals very deeply. he has the strength here i don't think a negative attack ad from mike huckabee will put a dent in. >> finally, there is this gallup point out today americans saying hillary clinton is the most admired woman in the world for

the 14th straight year. president obama takes the top spot. tied at two, pope francis and donald trump. i feel like this is setting up a joke. if you could each weigh in. what does that tell you about where this country stands that pope francis and donald trump are tied behind president obama? >> i don't see any commonality between pope francis and donned trump. it goes to show all convention has been thrown out the window. everything we may say and everything we may see in donald trump's strategy or lack thereof in this presidential campaign appears to be completely moot. he is rewriting the play book. he clearly has a strong base of supporters in the republican party who are going to gravitate to him no matter what. i think that is probably what you're seeing in that pochlt. >> we have to leave it there for tonight. thanks for joining us. still to come, peyton manning and the allegations of

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five-time mvp peyton manning won't be playing tonight in the broncos take on the bengals sidelined with a foot injury. there is no doubt there will be plenty attention on the quarterback.

he strongly denied doping allegations and warned he may sue over suggestions made in a documentary that he used hgh shipped to his wife as part of his recovery from a neck injury in 2011. in an interview today with msnbc, the journalist who broke that story stands by her report. >> every time we had a conversation, we went back, we analyzed it, we primed liam with more questions to ask in the next conversation. the allegation that he makes, let's be clear what the allegation is and what it's no he says the guyer institute shipped human growth hormone to ashley manning in florida. i have not heard anyone deny that. >> i want to bring in terence moore and other chief legal correspondent ari melber back with us. let's look at this from the sports perspective.

peyton manning well loved in the world of sports in general and known for this squeaky clean image. does this tarnish him at all? >> well, let's hope not. not only is he the face of the nfl, he is the voice of the nfl. somewhere on the air waves, you can turn on -- don't do it right now, but you can hear him doing that nationwide is on your side jingle, selling pizzas and cars. the nfl needs him as the face because they had that year from hell last year with all the domestic violence situations that was going on out there. you had the ray rice video, adrian peterson and his child and the abuse type of thing. here is nfl is on a good roll here. there was a study that came out here recently that said since january of this year, the rate for nfl players dropped 39% compared to a year ago at the same time. the last thing they need is for

everybody to find out this guy peyton manning is not santa claus. that's what he seems to be in the eyes of the public. >> as you look at this from the legal perspective, there are certain things said by peyton manning and certain things not said which are more interesting. the reporter from al jazeera doubled down when with us on msnbc saying what she is talking about is, i'm reading this, that the hgh was shipped to ashley manning in florida and hasn't heard anyone deny that. why is that important? that forces you to make a big leap about what was done with that hgh. >> that is important legally. it goes to al jazeera saying they've done a responsible report on the facts. they don't think they are going to get in trouble even if some little parts are wrong. they are not alleging any sweeping accusation like you're doping. they are saying this is what we found about this treatment, if you will, that went to your home.

regular msnbc viewers may know i don't know anything about football. i'm not here for the football. >> you know enough about the law. >> i do know about defamation. we are not adding this. this is something manning said. he said he will probably sue. he said this was garbage. he used the word defamation. he knows way thinks it is which is a knowingly false statement designed to hurt some one. i spoke to a defamation lawyer in colorado today, one of the places he owns a home so che soe sue from there it would have to be recklessly false because he is a famous person. if you are saying, someone lies about me, can i get at them? the answer is yes. there is a higher standard for celebrities. he would have to prove al jazeera got the detail you mentioned wrong but should have known. it would be a high bar. that doesn't get to the next question which is does he want to own up his personal life and

his wife's health situation? >> and this intern who spent all these hours has recanted. >> that goes to another fascinating legal question here. there's the media, which we know from donald trump isn't always popular. then the source. there is more protection for the media than the source. peyton manning could potentially sue mr. sly alone and leave al jazeera out of it saying this guy knowingly false recanted. whatever he said before, he now says isn't true. that gives a stronger foot hold. that would be a more laser strategy to go in and try to pick off the person who has already conceded something wrong. al jazeera says they stand by their reporting because it's not only based on mr. sly and they think the 20 plus hours they told msnbc of that fat yij is stronger than this one minute youtube video where he seems to be back tracking.

>> what is the feeling in terms of timing for peyton manning? should he have waited a little bit? >> no. you've got to come out and nip this in the bud. the dirty little secret is there has been high hgh use in the national football league. contrary to popular belief when it comes to steroids, it's not so much used to build up strength but also for recovery from injuries. if you want to play the conspiracy theory thing, go this way here. peyton manning was coming off the most serious injury of his career in 2011 for neck surgery. you can say perhaps he was trying to get over that. remember, the nfl needs peyton manning. the nfl did not ban hgh use until 1991. didn't start testing until 2014. guess how many nfl players have tested positive for hgh use? zero? that's the other side of it.

it is to say you've got that out there for people to say, well, maybe. >> i think terence makes a great point. the legal part of that would be let sleeping zeros lie. >> that is a legal term right there, huh? >> i don't know he wants to be the test case and say let's get into all this stuff in court. >> right. we could go on. people are going to want to start watch that football game. still to come tonight in just minutes, donald trump takes the stage at a rally in new hampshire. can he out-trump himself in 2016? "star wars," the force awakens continues to shatter records.

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the union leader published a scathing editorial. calling him a crude blow hard. trump accused the publisher of colluding with chris christie. the paper endorsed. the publisher fired back on msnbc. >> it's long overdue. i've been waiting something like this since we endorsed governor christie, who according to trump, i'm christie's hand puppet. reaction doesn't surprise me at all. >> joiniperhaps the reaction di really surprise anyone, beth. i think it's fair to say. interesting there is this headline today from politico. talks about the gop's new hampshire nightmare. there's some concern that what is going on at this moment could eventually hurt the republican nominee. is that a fair criticism? >> we've been looking at this

for weeks and months. trump has been number one in new hampshire. there are four other candidates vying for number two. that's been the contest. they could all split up that vote and make trump stronger. it depends how trump does in iowa initially. if he does well and can sail into new hampshire, it is gopt's worst nightmare. if he falters in iowa, new hampshire is a different game. >> how is that changing things in terms of the focus on iowa for the republican party? the establishment does not want donald trump to come out on top of the caucus there. >> i think they are looking at new hampshire with more concern than iowa. iowa hasn't really picked the guy who gets the nomination. new hampshire had better of a track record. there is that saying you hear a lot this time of year, iowa picks corn, new hampshire picks presidents.

i think there is, beth is right. there is an eye toward new hampshire. there is some concern if donald trump wins in iowa and sails in new hampshire with a lead he currently has, there are some nervous establishment republicans out there. >> there are interesting comments from bernie sanders. >> many of trump's supporters are working class people and they're angry. they are angry because they're working longer hours for lower wages. if we want to address the issues that people are concerned about, why the middle class is disappearing? massive income and wealth inequality in this country, that we need policies that bring us together. >> there is talk about whether or not bernie sanders is trying to pull some trump voters his way. could that happen? >> i think it could actually. trump and bernie sanders are attracting people dissatisfied with politics as usual.

there is a chance there could be crossover. trump trashed bernie sanders on twitter today calling him a whack-a-doodle. there is a possibility they do share voters. >> i guess when you are getting trashed by trump it doesn't put new a special category these days, does it? in terms of the other candidates out there, how important are these next few weeks for them? there is still a chance for them to move up at this point in the polls? >> look at ted cruz in iowa. he has gone to the top of the polls there. you hear about him in new hampshire, as well. he has a great ground game. he does have the momentum going into these contests. >> who do you think is trump's main target tonight? >> oh, man, pick one. really could be anybody. >> beth, what about you? >> i think it's joe mcquaid. trump loves slaying sacred cows

and he is a sacred cow up there. >> we'll be watching. great to have both of you with us. >> thank you. thanks for all of you watching msnbc live. i'll see you back tomorrow tonight. \s trump throws shade at big bill. let's play "hardball." good evening, everyone. i'm joy reed in for chris matthews. we are awaiting a campaign rally in new hampshire from the man who continues to top the republican presidential polls. yes, you guessed it, donald j. trump. we'll bring that to you live when it happens. >> let's start with what seems to be the front-runner's attempts to vault right past the primaries and look to a general election matchup with hillary clinton. case in point, trump's escalating