a very good morning to you. i'm richard lui. millions around the world ringing in the new year. about a million people right there packing into new york city. they saw that in times square. they watched the waterford crystal ball drop at midnight. in paris it was a more subdue celebration after the terror attacks that left 130 people dead. paris cancelled its usual

fireworks display. and in munich, german police evacuated two train stations at authorities received what they described as a very concrete tip about an isis suicide attack. and in dubai, the celebration went on even as a massive fire continued to burn and smoke out of control. here's a look at how the world welcomed in 2016. >> new zealand was one of the first countries to ring in the new year, setting stage with fireworks from the sky tower. a different back drop in australia, this one set on sydney's harbor, where thousands gathered along the short to watch. color filled the sky above hong kong and taiwan, taking revellers well into 2016. singing and dancing brought a

fresh twist to the forbidden city in beijing. the in paris celebrations were scaled back with ongoing concerns about safety. the fireworks were released by a video display along the champs elysees. and perhaps pt most fa the most year's eve celebration of all in times square. >> the latest on those new terror concerns coming out of munich, germany. chapman belle joins us from

london. what do we know about this serious, imminent threat described, chapman? >> it was some very tense moments in munich hours before they were meant to bring in the new year. they say they received very concrete evidence that a suicide attack was eminent. they took to twitter to say in multiple languages to people they have evacuated two train stations and a smaller train station and advised people not to gather in crowds. this was just hours before the new year was supposed to happen. they were saying this suicide attack was planned for midnight. the munich police chief was told that the attackers were in munich. the information was so specific, they had to act on it. europe remains on such high

alert. nobody's taking any chances after these paris attacks so they thought the only thing they could do is in fact act on this intelligence. they said it came from a friendly intelligence service, it seems like it was the french who tipped them off with this information and they acted on it. richard, we also remember from last weekend that vienna received intelligence tips similar to this, though it wasn't specific. everyone has remained on high alert across europe and potentially in germany as well. >> thank you so much, chapman. appreciate that. let's bring in national security analyst kevin baron. as i was just saying here, we've got about 12 hours underneath our belt since this happened, just several hours before the new year in germany. thech said, okay, we're calling this all off. and they were listing five to seven suicide bomber threats. at least that's what they were saying at that moment.

what do you know at this moment from those details and what does it tell you? >> well, you know, we don't know much more than what we just heard already. what it tells me is that this is the manifestation of what law enforcement officials and security officials have been saying since paris, that there was going to be a lot more intelligence sharing, that they expected more attacks on western city to be planned and hopefully thwarted but it also tells me this a last-minute call to make such a drastic change of security status and for that many people. you know, that means something -- you got to think something was more than just imminent. but also new york went on as planned, other major cities around the globe, so far all we're talking about is munich. >> talk about the timing. just several hours before the top of midnight and we're going to start a new year, what they had to go through and what sort

of information they had to process that would take them to that level where they're going to say we're going to call off all of these festivities. >> officials said they've had intelligence of an imminent attack that -- there's always been intelligence of an attack on western europe that's kind of a generalized threat, that's among the chatter. intel officials always say that. it has to get to level of specificity of time and place for officials to alert the public. so this is what's going on in the united states, too, is the department of homeland security is going to be in charge of it here. it will be jay johnson who has to decide when do we alert the public? here in the united states we're not used to these kind of alerts. can you imagine if new york city at times square was told at 10 p.m. close down a couple of the subway stations? these decisions are going to have to come sooner, they probably are going to come sooner. the level at which the decision is going to be made is being lowered. that's part of the decision to restart the terror alert system.

so this is all -- i think we're in the early stages of learning how to live with modern terrorist threats to person cities because this is the new era. >> kevin, 2016, if you remember back to 015 in the new year, we did not have such headlines we'd be talking about the first day of the year. i want to take it home and switch gears slightly. an alleged isis supporter, rochester, new york is what i'm talking about specifically, planning an armed attack there in rochester at a restaurant/lounge on new year's eve. police say a 25-year-old emmanuel lurchman went when an fbi informant to buy ski masks, knives, duct tape, a machete and pneumonia. >> i've seen these headlines. we're all call being him a

sympathizer, he was ready to go, ready to kill people but really he seems like pretty much a common criminal in a lot of senses. he's already got a background of robbery, he did a five-year prison sentence and he was found early on he was tracked and as of november there were fbi informants, three of them alongside with him walking him right to the courthouse it looked like. i don't know. you call this guy an isis terrorist or potential, you know, we'll see. but this is something i guess once again we should not be surprised at, there are people out there. again, this is a far cry from shutting down subway stations in new york city or even like disney world putting up metal detectors for the first time. this guy was going to shoot up or stab up with machete as or knives a bar in rochester. >> that's our lead story on january 1, 2016. that certainly is what might be

different this year as we talk about not only munich but also rochester, new york. thank you for your perspective on that. >> happy new year. >> you, too. >> let's go to our latest on dubai. a high rise hotel there only hours before the city was set to ring in their new year with a fires display. that fire starting around 9:30 p.m. local time at one of the stiff's most upscale hotels, consuming along the way more than 20 floors. the hotel's guests and staff were evacuated. so were the large crowds downtown gathering for a new year's celebration. by midnight firefighters were still battling those flames. but a fireworks scheduled to go off near the world's tallest building, well that, still went on.

like most of the world's major cities, dubai has been on high alert for terror attacks. so far there's been no indication of terrorism being involved. 14 people were minorly injured. thomas von essen, thanks for joining us. a lot of folks saying you have a very high sky scraper that is smoldering and you have incendiary devices going off at another sky scraper very close by because it's so important, perhaps, they were thinking at the time, that they continue with their plans. what would you have advised official there is in dubai to do? >> well, we have the advantage now of seeing that it was successful, that the risk they took went without any real problem. so i think it's difficult to criticize them even before the

decision was made because you don't know all the information that they know. you don't know what kind of extra support they brought in from somewhere else to handle the second event, which would have been the fireworks. you don't know how serious or how many people they need to search that hotel to find out if there are any people that need to be rescued. we didn't know how many of those apartments or hotel rooms or luxury suites, whatever they were, were vacant and not occupied. we don't know how many people were in that toe tell. maybe that wasn't as great a concern as a hotel in new york city that is full because it's new year's eve. we don't have all that information. so this city, a big city, a city concerned about its public image and has prepared for months and months and months, probably start today worrying about next year's display. so it's a big deal. and i understand why they went forward with it and i give them

credit for this and i'm glad that it went without any second event. >> as we look at the video, and we were talking about this yesterday as well, how quickly the fire had moved up in in a 20-odd floors that were affected by those flames. now that you've had a day to go through the data and have heard more of the information, what's your thought about how quickly it moved? >> well, it's a really tough job for those firefighters. getting water on the outside of a building going up 40 stories is very difficult. there was someone who suggested last night using helicopters with buckets. that just doesn't work. how the firefighters were able to get to the 20th floor, put out a fire we still don't know exactly how had started. had to be from an explosion from propane heaters maybe up there in a restaurant atmosphere, whatever they have on that deck up there. so it starts there and then it goes up the side of a building?

your typical outside of a building doesn't burn like that. whether there was some material on the jot side of that building that was unusual, much more flammable. so you you had a really difficult job. and then the primary concern is what kind of damage is it doing inside. is it getting into the fapt? is the striengler system putting it out? >> and they seemed to move quickly, at least in some opinions, in dealing with that fire affecting those 20 floors. you brought up the issues of flammables. and as we look at this, what's your thought about the building codes that might be used there versus, for instance, the united states and international codes that might affect the sorts of materials that they use? >> well, you know, there's lots of construction that goes on around the world that is not well -- is not good. but dubai is building good

buildings. so if there was certainly that was unusual on the outside of the buildings, the engineers, the people or if it was just the material on all those decks, it doesn't make sense to me that could have created that much fire on the outside and it really shows how difficult it was for those firefighters to put it out. but they go by the international codes and nfpa in many instances, they may not go all wait we would go but they put up good buildings over there. they have to because of the interests and the investments that's going on from wealthy people all over the world. >> as we look at cities across the world, this is certainly a first world city with the latest and the best designs theoretically. at least that's what they've been aiming for. thank you very much, thomas. i appreciate your per secretaryive today. >> still ahead, mass of flooding

in the community could now set records for days if not weeks to come. we're live in st. louis. plus a major shake-up in the campaign. three top aides out days before the iowa caucus. what it could mean.

relief is not in sight for some midwesterners going into the new year. more flooding is expected in some areas and a total of 24 deaths have been reported so far after dangerous floods have brought devastation to parts of missouri and illinois. hundreds of evacuated after homes were swallowed by rising water levels. charles hadlock is in missouri. charles, what are you hearing from residents right now? how are they feeling about this

story that continues to move on for days? >> hi, richard. good morning and happy new year. this is the story about good news for the city of st. louis. the crest of the mississippi river has passed. it crested this morning at 42 feet, 12 feet above flood stage and 7 feet below the record in 1993. that would be over my head and into the some of the buildings here in downtown st. louis. that did not happen this time. but all of this water is moving downstream to the towns of arnold along the mississippi river where the merrimack joins it. the merrimack itself is flooded. it received record flooding over the last four days. 44 feet, that's 28 feet above flood stage on the merrimack, four feet higher than it's ever been. about 400 homes along the merrimack were flooded but again, the water is receding there as well and people are beginning to return to the area to assess the damage on this new

year's day. interstate 55, some of the lanes have reopened. interstate 44 remains closed for about 24 miles but they are making progress in clearing some of the road. they have to scrape away the mud off of the interstate to open that back up to the holiday travelers trying to return back home. further downstream, the town of st. genevieve are also bracing for the flood but they're expected to fall two feet short of the record in 1993. so they're breathing a sigh of relief. the levees should hold. there is stress on them with all this massive amount of water moving past but they are expected to hold. the danger here in st. louis, in the st. louis area has passed. back to you, richard. >> charles, what does this mean for business next week, the first week of business there in st. louis? are they even talking about that at this moment? >> not right now. they're looking downstream,

though, farther downstream. you've got memphis is bracing for higher levels as the mississippi passes and flood watches are up in arkansas and parts of louisiana as this water makes its way down to the gulf of mexico, richard. >> folks are going to have to stay indoors. thank you for the latest from st. louis. next, bill cosby's wife could be forced to testify against him. red 97! set! red 97! did you say 97? yes. you know, that reminds me of geico's 97% customer satisfaction rating. 97%? helped by geico's fast and friendly claims service. huh... oh yeah, baby. geico's as fast and friendly as it gets. woo! geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more.

we've been monitoring breaking news coming out of tel aviv. there are reports of nine people shot, two are in critical condition. we're just getting that in. they're reporting the shooting took place in a bar in what's described as a vibrant part of the city, the local time there, 3:24 in the afternoon on this first day of 2016. we'll continue to watch the

developments there, again at least nine people shot there in tel aviv. we'll have more on that later here on msnbc. bill cosby's wife could be forced to testify in the case against him. a federal court judge denied a motion that would have kept cosby's wife, camille, from testifying next week in a civil suit against her own husband. late yesterday the massachusetts-based federal judge ruled camille cosby's testimony was relevant because she also served as her husband's business manager. joining me now is former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney robert bianchi. as we look at this development, does the wife testify or not? normally we would not see this. in this case how does it make sense? i of course just laid out the details that have been provided to us so far. >> this isn't just in the

context of a marital relationship in which is typically a privilege under the law and it's not a civil case. this is the whole thing as a criminal defense attorney, me and my partner lecture all over the state to lawyers, you cannot have your clients go into depositions when you're facing criminal charges with the potential that what you're saying in those civil depositions can be used against you. so this tool is going to be very powerful. >> you're talking about bill cosby sitting down in the civil suit releasing information when there's a potential criminal case coming against him. >> yeah. >> in this case you're the defense, you don't want his wife to testify. what is the argument you would make? >> i would argue there's privilege and there's information she should not have to testify about that could be used against him. i think it's going to be

difficult to stop her from te k testifying, especially under court order at this time. >> i'll just read from the motion against the deposition, camille's lawyer saying this in the subpoena for her testimony. it's a fishing expedition here. they also argue that camille's potential knowledge of cosby's, quote, sexual proclivities are irrelevant. would that argument work? >> in a deposition pretty much other than privilege, she has to answer the question. it could be a fishing expedition. >> it fell short. they said we don't agree. >> down the road a judge can decide at trial it's not admissible but she has to answer the questions. >> so she has to testify. how crucial is this? >> when the civil case is going on, you're watching from a bird's eye view, wondering whether information is going to come out in that deposition

because remember in a civil case, they don't have the fifth amendment right to remain silent necessarily so a lot of data may come out i may be able to use as a prosecutor to bolster my case, which is exactly what happened with bill cosby's deposition. >> and sometimes you'll undertake such processes not necessarily because of the evidence that will arise from it. might this be to shake, if you, will the defense because bill cosby, his wife, they don't want to bring camille into this, which is going to be a long case in 2016. >> i don't think it's going to shake the defense. the defense is in an all-or-nothing proposition at this time and they have a lot to fight with. i can't imagine they're going to do anything where they're going to give in. it's going to be a tooth and nail hard hitting trial, end of story, in this case. >> thank you you. police in munich warning of an imminent terror attack, shutting

down two train stations in the process. and smoke and flames still rising at this hour after that massive sky scraper in dubai, the fire that happened there. coming up, a building developer who lives in abu dhabi joins me with insight into what she saw in that video. sure, tv has evolved over the years.

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we continue to watch developments from munich this hour where german police are on alert after getting a concrete tip by several members of isis at different locations in the city. two train stations were evacuated and more than 500 police and special unit officers converged on munich. syrians and iraqis were said to have been planning that attack. let's bring in law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh. we're also joined by military analyst and retired army colonel jack jacobs.

good morning to both of you. jim, let's start here with your assessment on the way german officials responded to this threat just hours before the new year for them. >> i give them an a. we look at the history of crime and terrorism and let's just look back just ten years. in 2004 in madrid we had 13 bombs placed on trains in madrid, killed 191 people. in 2005 in london, we had four sue described bombers, backtracks, one on the train, killed 56 people. in 2012, in moscow we had two suicide bombers that went on a moscow subway that killed 40 people, i believe. if any of those attacks, richard, law enforcement had gotten a tip, an inkling, and intercept, a source that said this is about to happen, what would have been the right thing to do in those three cases?

it would have been just what the munich authorities did. and i see that as not cowhering in fear, i see it as maneuvering in a battle in a long war and it's smart money. they're back in business today. it gives the police time to see if there was anything planted. i think it was a smart move. >> german officials are saying they were tipped off by a foreign intelligence service. it has been reported by championman belle it could be coming from france. when you look at the way different groups exist in france and internationally, is the thought they're doing better job sharing this important intelligence and really has has been said by jim here, trusting the information that's coming from other agencies and then acting upon it, what's the view? >> well, there are two things happening here and they're both good news. the first is that we're using a

wide variety of intelligence collecting means, listening to phone conversations, checking e-mails and all that stuff, all electronic means, overhead capabilities, satellites and photographic stuff and so on and combining that with human intelligence to verify what we've seen, what everybody has seen. so the first thing is melding the different kinds of collection capabilities into a finished intelligence. the second and perhaps much more important is the sharing of intelligence. and that is not just sharing intelligence inside the country among various collection capabilities, among various agencies, but international sharing of intelligence. the word is that, as you said, the the intelligence information was verified or the tip was received from outside the country. well, the word around is that came from a number of different sources, not just the french but

perhaps the americans, too. and here you see information that is verified through numerous means and then being reverified from a number of different intelligence organizatio organizations. that kind of intelligence sharing is the kind of thing that keeps tragedies from happening. >> we cannot only talk about munich without talking about rochester, new york. jim, what we saw there and all the information we have at this early hour is it appears to be an individual who supports isis and who had evidently some interaction via social media with an isis-related group, encouraged him, but he was stopped. and again, the intelligence and the apparatus appears to have worked. >> right, richard. well, we worked many plots over the years on bombers and attacks are like this. when we got tips on them we shall would infiltrate, put undercover agents close to them.

that's what the fbi did here. this guy is recruited through what i like to call the unislamic state. he's a criminal. he's going to get machetes and try to run into a bar and attack people. but this is where the united states government is not doing the job for the people we need to do. we're thinking too small. we talk about boots on the ground and the colonel can elaborate on all those military things, but we need fingers on keyboards, many more to fight this social media unislamic state attack. >> and, colonel, please do react quickly about what jim is saying. the fingers on the ground here and how many more night be needed and appears to be working here despite this individual being able to buy masks, plastic ties, as well as machete at a location and a lot of people are saying how did that happen? >> they're two separate problems.

overseas, jim's right. we focus our information and our collection capability because we're looking at it internationally. domestically it's much, much more difficult. people who are not with any organization difficult to pick up. it's a massive problem and law enforcement has got a lot of work to do in order to keep us safer here, protecting us from what happens overseas ironically is a lot easier, richard. >> colonel jacobs, thank you, jim cavanaugh, thank you for stopping by this hour. >> thank you. >> firefighters in dubai still trying to put out the massive fire at the luxury high rise. you can still see smoke coming from the 63 story building. but this was the scene more than 12 hours ago. the fast-moving fire was racing up the sides of the building consuming more than 20 floors and forcing everyone inside and

around the hotel to evacuate. it did not stop officials from proceeding with a midnight fireworks display right next door. i'm joined now by maurice bolivo. she lived in abu dhabi for seven years, another major city in the united emirates where she worked as a construction project manager. i want to start with this question here. this is the difference because you have worked on large projects here, both in the united states as well as in the middle east. maurice, are the standards when it comes to fire safety different? and how are they different? >> well, in recent years british standards have been applied in the united arab emirates on construction projects so for that, no, they're not really different than from the american standards in construction.

the thing is these buildings have been built very fast and using construction techniques that allow them to go up fast and there was the use of specific cladding that is highly combustible. it's a combustible thermoplastic core sandwiched between two sheets of aluminum. this is highly combustible and i think we see an example there and we saw two previous examples in dubai when the torch tower burned down and earlier the time wheel tower, one of the towers that used the same cladding. >> maurice, this sandwich that you're talking about that has plastic in the middle and aluminum, a metal on the outside of it, is it used on the exterior of the buildings? >> on the exterior of the

building. normally the building core inside is made out of concrete blocks. so this retards the spread of the fire throughout the building. >> so that might explain then hough quickly the fire moved up the side of the building? because the plastics is petrochemical based oil. it burns therefore. >> it is. it the only way the fire finds its way is the exterior of building. and it's concerning because it spreads very, very fast. it's out of control in matter of minutes, the whole building is -- facade is engulfed. >> thank you so much for your perspective again, as a project manager working on these large project, not only in the middle east but also in the united states, making the point of the plastic core used on the outside that might have been contributing here. >> still ahead, saying good-bye

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least nine wounded. officials aren't saying whether this is terror related or it could be a domestic crime incident. we have not seen attacks like this recently with automatic weapons. this is an attacker who shot in bursts with automatic weapons. we have been seeing the back and forths, the stabbings with young palestinians, car rammings in the west bank. but this in the heart of tel aviv. we'll know a lot more as soon as that shooter is -- >> if you will, more personalitier cases the way you're describing. when you spent time in tel aviv, this sort of thing doesn't happen. there's been some eyewitness accounts that somebody saw something in terms of this lone actor, what he was wearing? >> yeah. if somebody is wearing tactical gear, there's a mafia underworld in tel aviv.

there's an organized crime problem in that city. that could be what this is. too early to tell. it could be a terror attack. gern headline here, a manhunt currently under way for that gunman. >> nine people shot, we understand one person dead. that is the latest. it is 3 lk 47 local time in the afternoon on a january 1, 2016. >> on a friday afternoon as they start the new year there in the middle east. thank you very much, cal, always for your perspective. >> and now one month to the day to the iowa caucus, well, several of ben carson's top staffers have quit, including his campaign manager, questioning his readiness for the white house. and an internal feud between top aides and carson's long-time friend and radio host armstrong williams. >> the frustration has just been building with these internal

conflicts. and i just couldn't do it anymore. >> reporter: what internal conflicts? >> some of his advisers, just, you know, have gotten to do some things that are not very smart. >> chaos is not a bad thing. dissension is not bad as long as the candidate comes out better, more well prepared and ready for this battle that is ahead. there's a new carson emerging and you and others will see it soon. >> carson himself is calling this a new phase of his run for the white house, saying it is necessary to invigorate my campaign with a strategy that more aggressively shares my vision and world view. joining us live now, msnbc campaign contributor james peterson. he's director of african-american study and associate professor of english at lee high university in pennsylvania. since you're following this, what do you know about this internal power struggle?

what led up to these three key positions leaving? >> yeah, you know, i spoke to the old campaign manager barry bennett right after we got word of his resignation. he said he made the call to carson about 9:45 yesterday morning, he told carson he would be resigning. carson asked him to take the day and think it over but bennett said his mind of the made up. as you alluded to, it's really the frustration with arm strong williams, who is a close friend to carson, who carson relies on without the campaign knowing. there were forced errors that the campaign made that undercut the good news that came from the c carson campaign. for example, last week we heard they raised $23 million. it was frustration with things being mismanaged. >> you know, you get to see all

of those expressions, all that happens hyped tbehind the scenee three people, how essential were they to keep the trains running on time? >> they were critical. doug watts, his communications director, that's who you would see a lot of times on television. he would provide all the statements. he's a central piece from the start of the campaign. barry bennett has been with carson for a long time. he was running this campaign, also a very public figure. these three resignations, it's just a big deal for dr. carson, big deal for the campaign. it really gist shows you the internal turmoil and really what load to this. this is something that has come to a head. just last week we saw carson insinuate he would have some staff shake-ups. we didn't know it would be forced by the staff and not by carson. >> one last question here, shaq, and that is the deepness of the

bench because what carson is saying this is going to be an invigorated new phase for us but we all understand how this works. who is now going to come in from the back bench to make this happen? do they have folks that are going to come to the fore? >> fortunately for carson, it will be folks who were in the campaign initially. so senior adviser ed brookover has been so he's familiar with the workings and what's going on. the carson campaign raised $23 million last quarter of 2050. they have money to play with. they have a ground game, they have an operation. they still have the infrastructure there. it just new face tess top. -- faces at the top. and a foreign policy adviser for dr. carson will take over as chairman. we know how carson has had

questions about the depth of his foreign policy knowledge. it will be interesting to see the expanded role he plays in this campaign. >> james, as you watch this from the outside and we saw jeb bush moving a large number of his staff to some of the keefe states that he will be going up in the primary and caucus race, caucus votes, as we now watch carson making a major move at the top with three lieutenants now out, this as national polls dive, is this just part of him looking at, okay, in a month we've got to make this happen in iowa? >> i don't think so. this is looking more and more like the key stone cops thing. armstrong williams has probably been a part of the tension for a long time now. he has, quote unquote, no role in the campaign but he does represent some of carson's business interests.

he had a debacle with the bush administration around no child left behind and it's been implicated in some ways in the paid and played politics that so many folks are frustrated with in america. the bottom line between somebody advising a candidate who is outside the campaign versus those folk who want to run a very successful fund-raising and innovative campaign is what we see exploding and unfolding, but a lot of the missteps or so-called forced or unforced errors have been traced pack to armstrong williams. >> so you're saying that this is not a good move, the right person carson should be going to? >> he might not be the right person in terms of politics but there's also been some reporting on what this campaign is really about? is it really a presidential campaign or a campaign to

enhance someone like so they've been going through the cash they've been raising. there are a lot of questions how organized they are on the ground and how ready that he are in the campaign in the complete, who willistic way you have to approach a campaign in the run-up to iowa. . so the purpose is hanging in the balance, some of the more experienced and more seasoned political leadership lead the campaign staff. >> thank you so much. i appreciate both of your expects. >> really good stuff there. appreciate it. >> joining us by phone, we have a new update here on msnbc on that breaking story of a gunman. , we understand injuring nine people or nine people being shot, two in critical within

opinion what's the latest information that you have at this moment? >> what i can confirm is just over an hour ago shots were fired in central tel aviv on the pain street. police responded immediately at the scene. we confirmed that we're looking for the individual, the suspect, who carried out that incident. it's not clear until now whether it's a criminal related incident but what we've confirmed until now is that two people have been killed these units are searching the television area to find the

suspects. >> paul goodwin was reporting on an eyewitness account saying there was one individual involved, appeared to be dressed in black and using an assault weapon. is that what you understand? or what are some of the lead details are you looking at? >> we're trying to make sure there's no further threat in the area. and also to understand if the background is criminal related or it a terrorist attack this afternoon on friday in central tell vich. >> what do you understand in terse of the term limit our

police officers responded and we at the same time, the areas of the tel aviv central district have been roped off and counterterrorism units and anti-terrorism unit, undercover border police all involved in trying to find the suspect. >> so what was the time frame between when you got the first report, mr. rosenfeld and when you were able to get those first responders on site? >> our police units were dispatched immediately to the tell aviv therefore, it critical

for our units to respond and be at the scene as quick as possib possible. >> and how many did you deploy in this situation in as you were describing, mr. rosen felt, your first responders, terror units, police on the ground trained and ready for such incidents, unfortunately that, do happen there in israel? >> well, our unit are extreme will immediately the but it's very important for us to find the information. or if it's a critical situatio., >> is there an area where that

incident is that, a lot of apartments, a lot of apartments. building by building, other areas were. we're making sure the. >> we're understanding two are confirmed dead based on the information coming from your units. and then the question is those nine that were shot, right, they are they and how. >> what i can confirm is all of the victims were taken to the

hospital. that's the raw and immediate steps whenever we take whenever there's a major incident. what we confirmed from the hospitals, who were coordinating and working together with the israeli police. >> i'm about to bring in r himself service that made you. it a new hampshire. >> there was heightened security throughout tel aviv and jerusalem. but this morning in time, it important whether we. >> mr. rosenfeld, it's cal perry

here. i know the situation is unfoileding. i'm wondering if there's anything we can tell by the fact that the gunman did flee. does that indicate perhaps that this was terror related or is it just simply too soon to tell? >> no, that's not clear. a terrorist attack can be a we've had attacks of shots being fired and we've had criminal -- that's what our police units are trying to. >> there was early initial reports that somebody was detained at the scene. is it clear in that person was involved in the shooting? can they be until this moment in

time they're not connected. that's why a wide search is continuing across tel aviv, in order to understand exactly what we're dealing with. and at the moment the message to the public is anybody who doesn't need to be outside in the main areas, give oshs, the nearby a question about that particular neighborhood. can you describe how it is different from other parts of tel aviv. and incidents in the past that may not have and and the frequency there.

that's why it's important we make sure the different areas are cordoned off. we've mapped och the area to find which are more likely for someone to have. >> it is early on, as you have said. you were mentioning the incidents in jerusalem. and because of those incidents, your preparation in tell vich, any conversation sfchlt you need to find out and understand if we're talking about a terrorist attack. if it's a terrorist attack, it will investigate in one direction. you have to understand who the attacker was and if it's connected to any recent incidents that have taken place

in other parts of the west bank or jum and that will lead us because it's not just continuing to work. >> cal perry here again. i just want to pick up what's happening here. if you can help me explain to our viewers. this street is a very busy street. i would imagine there were probably off-duty soldiers there, enjoying their friday afternoon. that has to come for ytime is g to be that much paster. we were talking about a we are

talk about geographic and a relatively small area. all of our units are on the scene, including medical and emergency units. at this moment in time we're using the different teens to focus in the different neighborhoods and search literally by little i don't want to you, even though you don't know what the motive was on this attack, has there been any discussion increasing security along checkpoints leading in and out of the west bank? >> we have to put things in proportion and understand at this moment in time, it's significant and the most important thing is for the police to understand if we're talking about a terrorism

incident, we're. we'll understand whether it's a terrorist rein each different direction, would i could anyone from the family and organized crime, that is a different area all together. we have to wait patiently, intensively and the message to the public is at the moment, who ever doesn't need to be outside and walking in public areas should stay in until we find the suspect. >> as you know so well, what we've been covering out of munich and out of belgium is something you have been monitoring very closely there in tel aviv and in had and at this

time you've had the -- what was your new year's eve-like preparation? and what did happen never night to ins dhaents might be related to this sort of activity? >> well, over the last 24 to 48 hours, it was itsenedwhen i left it was closer to jerusalem with many pouristsnd well, we had thousands of tourists visiting. so there was regular and heightened security which has taken place but specifically today there was no intelligence whatsoever that there was going to be any type of incident in tel aviv. at this moment in time our units are concentrating on finding the suspect. >> so you believe it to be o

one -- you had the possibility thereof of this suspect being hold up in an area close by or perhaps one of the the buildings can you give us more detail right now where the suspect might be? >> we don't know 100%. we do know he flid the area. our unit are continuing to including hotel areas, the be sfrn, searching empty apartments as well as other buildings and other sites for the possibility

that the suspects fled to that area. >> mickey rose enfeld week cannot have you taking time out to help us understand. foreign press spokesman for the israel police, preerk. what we we've been told by the foreign press spokesperson for the ril are confirmed dead. they are now in a structured fashion look frm, indicated. they're now 4:09 p.m. on a

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belle in london. what more are we hearing about that plot? >> well, we've heard from the munich police chief that a very concrete tip was that a suicide attack was planned. they were given the name of two train stations, just hours before the city was going to bring in the new year and they thought they had to act on this tip. it came from a friendly intelligence service they say, possibly french or even the united states giving indications that this could happen. so they thought they had to act on it. so they immediately evacuated these train stations, taking to twitter in multiple languages, advising people to not go to these trainizatio stations and gathering into a large crowd. they were acting seriously on this attack. what we have been told, too, is that today the security threat

since nothing happened on the specific attack, that it's gone back down to the original levels, that's still being heightened, though. across europe security remains heightened after those paris attacks. the germany interior minister i guess i should say, the bavarian interior ministry praising authorities for the way they acted so swiftly and calmly in clearing these stations to prevent what they thought was an imminent attack at this point. so they will continue investigating the names to see if these people are in germany or are in fact real. but they say the imminent threat is no longer and things are back to the previous levels. frances. >> it will be interesting to see if this investigation leads to any arrest there.

thank you whatmchapman bell, fo update. what goes into considering whether they're going to actually do this and have to evacuate two train stations at that time? >> i think you just heard, something as specific as time and location. in this case i have to emergency something more came up late. it's nothing new to expect that there are going to be attacks or plots against western cities, especially on new year's eve, every city in the west, every major city in the west was on alert for it so for authorities to move in at such a late hour is extraordinary, it's something they knew would cause alarm in the media and would cause alarm in the media, whatever it was, it was worth it to get people out of those stations. >> it's also got to speak to the intelligence there. the bavarian interior minister

said they got the report from a friendly intelligence service. is that better intelligence gathering and the communication in passing that on? >> yes. so this is the new era playing out as we were told, especially after paris when americans said they would be sharing more intelligence with the french and with other western sources and really focusing on these threats to the cities. this is something completely different than when we talk about the older days of the iraq war. trying to track these networks or whether there are individuals like this guy up in rochester that we heard about yesterday, who was hardly a terrorist, more like a real wanna-be, or something much more sophisticated like paris that turns out did have connections back to some isis level commanders who are really plotting designs on external attacks. this is something we're just going to hear more and more about. >> kevin baron, thank you for your perspective on the new

year's morning. >> wish i had better news. >> still ahead, out of tel aviv, a shooting that has left at least two people dead and several injuries. the gunman is on the loose. we'll follow this and bring you more on msnbc live. ok, we're here.

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and like most of the world's major cities, dubai has been on high alert for possible terror attacks but so far there have been no indications of terrorism involved. officials say 14 people suffered minor injuries in the fire. i want to bring in bobby halton, editor and chief at fire engineer magazine. he's a retired fire chief. we see that video, we know the scale of this blaze here. and knowing that 14 people were only hurt with minor injuries, no fatalities, what's your assessment of how officials handled the fire? >> i think it handled it well. basically it looked like an exterior fire, probably the cladding and in countries such as dubai are allowed. here in the u.s. we don't particularly see fires like this because our codes and our testing systems, particularly nfpa 285 preclude people from

using these types of materials. interestingly enough there's a huge push to start allowing these materials because of their insulating capabilities. but we've seen a lot of these fires in dubai. they've had two just recently, most recently in april. >> when you see this video, it looks like just a huge, massive torch from the side of the building. but as far as the strategy here of how to tackle it, how to fight, it this is 20 floors up. and i know there were some, you know, consideration if it's going to tackled through the air or how do you manage that and knowing what's the best place to start in tackling fire? >> always at the source. so here in the states we would have gotten some ground units fast applying water from the ground to the floor of origin, which in this building was 209th floor. the fire last year in dubai started on the 50th floor, which would have precluded that type of tactic. but most of the fire is where

the polyurethane products are allowed there. >> only 14 people hurt, no one stranded, no stories or reports of people having to be rescued. did that kind of surprise you when you're seeing this and watching this unfold knowing everyone was able to evacuate? a and. >> the hotel, it was not at full okay pansy. i've heard reports it was about 30%. so not as many people as if it had been 100%. and the time it occurred, most people were awake because of the holiday festivities. and the fact that the alarm systems, as i've heard, did activate and people moved quickly. they did not ignore it. they took action immediately. >> all right. bobby halton, thank you for the perspective.

we appreciate it, especially on this new year's morning. thank you. >> my pleasure. thank you very much. >> flooding is expected to make its way south as some midwesterners can finally pick up the pieces. floods are being blamed for 24 deaths. hundreds of people have been evacuated and about 400 homes and businesses flooded this week. charles hadlock is with the latest in missouri. at this point is the worst over, at least in that area? >> it is. good morning and happy new year. here in st. louis they're breathing a big sigh of relief. the mississippi river has crested at 42 feet, that's 12 feet above flood stage and it is slowly, i emphasize slowly, making its way down. this is the river. that's illinois on the other side there. this water is serging out ward

and because of speed of the river, the coast guard has closed a five-mile stretch of the river and railroads have been backed up because some of the tracks have been flooded. missouri pacific railroad is unwinding some of the traffic. that should be flowing again. and cars, it's been a mess. the interstates have been closed, 44 and 55. 55 just reopened last night and 44 may reopen sometime this weekend. that's a big relief for travelers trying to make their way around the area on this holiday weekend. frances, back to you. >> i can't help but notice behind you on that water what looks like sunshine glistening. >> it's a beautiful day here. the good news is they're not expecting any more rain here for the next seven days. >> certainly a bright spot they certainly need at the start of the year. thank you very much for that update. also following our breaking news from tel aviv when we come back, a shooting has left several

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closely watching that break news out of israel where a manhunt is under way after police say a gunman opened fire at a bar in tel aviv killing two people and injuring several more. that investigation and manhunt under way. it is in the afternoon there. it's not immediately clear who is behind the attack. i understand the gunman is on the run. i appreciate you being with me. cal, you were speaking with law enforcement from tel aviv earlier this morning and there was a lot he couldn't answer because it's yet to be determined whether this is terrorist or criminal. >> and i don't think they want to say until of course they're absolutely sure, the manhunt is still under way, people are going house to house, apartment by apartment in central tel aviv. this would be an seclusion if it is terror related.

that's why officials are not willing to say yet whether or not it is. we have seen in the past few months a steady drum beat of violence between palestinians and israelis but it's taken the form of stabbings and car rammings. this is not new for tel aviv but we haven't seen this recently in tel aviv. >> new year's day, around this area as we can receive here from this live area. >> we now understand from officials it was an assault rifle. in tel aviv this is a very popular area full of bars, full of cafes and this is shortly before shabbat, holly day in judaism. we asked the spokesperson, the foreign press spokesperson, if that helped and he said, of

course, this is israel and you would have had people getting ready for shabbat. >> but in this day in page people looking over their backs, being vigilant. but at the same time it's new year's day. maybe it was scaled back a little bit as far as people not really expecting something like this yet this gun pawn comes out and takes off, still out there. >> that's one of the things that doesn't really make sense yet and possibly wouldn't indicate this is not a terrorist attack, right? we don't normally see palestinian gunmen fleeing the scene. that's not typical. but again, very early, too soon to tell. as you said, this is tel aviv. it's not a west bank city, it's not jerusalem. this is tel aviv where people would, you would hope, feel safe. >> and this community still very much on edge knowing the gunman

is still out there. there's some waterfront area, investigators are looking around as well. i can imagine would many businesses being closed? are there lockdown situations around there now? >> the central area of the city is on kind of a lockdown. the israeli police are very good at this. they've unfortunately had a lot of experience in doing this. they know what they're doing. they cordoned off areas. we've seen video on the ground of these police going apartment by apartment and, again, this is israel so there are going to be a lot of citizens out there helping the police in their search. we understand that's all happening. >> especially given the sensitively to try lens in this area. let's talk more with aaron david miller. now we're talking about a gunman but i'm sure authorities are looking to see if he is the only one who acted or if he's working in concert with anybody else.

>> against the pattern of atax that begin in early october, you've had 20 israelis killed and about 120 palestinians killed, largely by palestinian youth from areas, low tech, a few weapons used, particularly in the west bank. whether this has all the hall marks of a terrorist attack is unclear. a guy fleeing the scene it seems it's not an indication of anything. this is clearly not a suicide ait could be related to the arab-israeli conflict or it could be a israel or a personal grudge. it's not clear. one thing is clear, if it is

related to the israeli palestinian issue, we're in for a rough year in 2016, which is likely to be no better than 2015. >> given that, when would you expect for them to speak out for a motive to be known at that point, especially in that is the message? again, not knowing if this is a response to those tensions or if it's terror related or criminal related? >> i think the israelis will be extremely careful. they've had a long and violent history. they're clearly professional. they don't want to create panic. clearly the main objective is to secure the gunmen, to ensure there are no at least of what the israelis are speculating. the israeli press will be all over this. this is the first attack in tel aviv since november 4th. this was more low-tech violence.

two people were stabbed, i believe one fatally, on a tel aviv beach. given that, you're talking them low tech attacks what needs to be considered knowing the gunman is still out there as far as releasing information that may not tip this person off in knowing how they're trying to go about capturing him? >> i just think it's systemic police work and counterterrorism. there's tremendous authority in expertise ton this one. i suspect that within the next several hours there's a reasonable chance that even though this is a densely populated area, i know this area and likely they will, i think,

apprehend this person or persons. >> and i'm sure that's the hope with the public there, the community there as nightfall is coming in a few hours. cal perry and aaron david miller, thank you. at least two dead, several wounded in a shooting in tel aviv with a gunman on the run. >> now to the the big dechlts in the cosby case. his wife could be forced to testify against him. a federal court judge denied a motion that would have kept cosby's wife, camille, from gafg deposition next week in another case, a civil suit against her husband. late yesterday a federal judge in massachusetts ruled camille cosby's testimony is relevant because she also served as her husband's business manager. joining me now from los angeles is criminal defense attorney thomas meszaros. you have the situation that

camille cosby, who has stood by her husband but also camille cosby in the role as his business manager. >> well, you have a criminal case and a bunch of civil cases. and coordinating all of them is not going to be easy pip suspect at that at some point the civil cases are going to be stayed, meaning they're going to be frozen until the criminal case in pennsylvania is involved. that happens most of the time. you also have the spousal privilege, which april lous a spouse to refuse to testify to conversations between the spouse and the other spouse. as you indicated, it's complicated by the fact that she was his business manager, but i think there's going to be a lot of litigation as to what's protected and what's not. >> as far as bill cosby, his ca camp, his attorneys, what is the effort on their part, if any, knowing that she may be testifying or giving a deposition.

>> in civil cases can you do depositions you normally cannot do in criminal cases. sometimes criminal lawyers like the fact that there's a parallel civil case because they can get some information through depositions that normally is not available to them. on the other hand, if they do that, mr. cosby may be forced to testify at a deposition and assert his fifth amendment privilege because the criminal case is going on. what his spouse can do i think is going to be heavily litigated because she has a right not to testify to confident communications between she and her husband. on the other hand, as his business manager, there may be a set of issues which a judge will decide are not confidential because they go beyond spousal communications into the realm of unprotected, unprivileged business discussions. fascinating issue. >> it is fascinating, especially when you weigh in camille cosby's lawyers and their words in using this. when the lawyers called the subpoena for her testimony,

calling this a fishing expedition, arguing her potential knowledge of crosby's sexual proclivities are irrelevant to the case. that was the argument. why did it fall short? >> i think it's stretching things. to talk to a spouse who has a right to have confidential discussions with her spouse, to go into her knowledge of his sex life i think is way over the paille. i think to call that relevant would get into the ril many of fictional discussion. the fact that a judge decided to rule this out of bounds is appropriate. >> certainly a lot of layers of this case to watch. thomas, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up, a major shake-up in ben carson's campaign with at least three top aides out just before a month before the iowa caucus. these are my dogs dusty and cooper.

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now to some big political news on this new year's morning. one month to the day to the iowa caucus, several of ben carson's top staff have quit. the shake-up follows a sharp decline in the polls for the one-time front-runner. >> the frustration has just been building with these internal conflicts. and i just couldn't do it anymore. >> what internal conflicts? >> some of his advisers just, you know, have got him to do some things that are not very smart. >> chaos is not a bad thing. dissension is not bad as long as the candidate comes out better, more well prepared and ready for this battle that is ahead. there's a new carson emerging and you and others will see it soon. >> carson himself is calling this a new phase of his run for

the white house, saying it is nets to invigorate my campaign with a strategy that more aggressively shares my vision and world view. joining me is jane tem. and to both of you happy new year. not the best of start for ben carson's cam many here, jane. i want to ask you not necessarily staffers versus ben carson, it's staffers versus staffers. we're talking about high-tier staffers. what does it say with this infighting about the instability in the campaign? >> i think the candidate looks like he's not in control of what's going on. they're telling me it's normal and it sound like the decisions were made by ben carson by some of his top staffers. these are long-time political aides bringing that political credibility to a candidate who comes from the outside.

while you see armstrong williams saying this is a different kind of carson, iowaans want someone who can win. >> bob, i understand he's getting money. he's got the money there. it's just a matter of the foundation and the structure of those to be able to know where to spend it to help him win and give back what he's lost. is this the start of the crumble? >> lots of money is coming in but they're burning through it really, really fast. there's been quite a bit of money that has been spent on raising the money. the figures we get are just of the collection of it. but beyond that there's just been a feeling that the campaign and ben carson are not really in sync. now, the problem always is that you always have the long-time friends and then you have the political pros, and they sometimes can crash together.

and it looks like they've done now. the man who is replacing the top of the it's going to be interesting to see if he can translate his military experience into the political world. >> i know from some of your sources, we're reporting on these top three but there could be a domino effect, right? >> we hear there are two more staffers who have they said they'd get back to us. they couldn't tell us how many people are still employed by this cap cam be pain. >> it's interesting to see what he will actually say given if he doesn't have at least a respectable showing when it comes to the stronghold of iowa

with the evangelicals, what if that doesn't happen a month today? >> well, as a matter of fact, the key point that you just made and jane made earlier is that we're just 30 days away from the caucus. in effect, he is restarting. it's going to be very interesting to see if he can take his and odi. >> if he doesn't do well, it will continue to take the wind out of the sails of his campaign. >> great seeing you. happy new year to good to you. >> he played one of the most belofrd characters, wayne rogers died yesterday. he got a golden globe in 1979 for his role in the sitcom

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new information in the breaking news out of tel aviv at this hour. a manhunt under way after this. a friday afternoon shooting outside a popular bar in a busy part of the city. there you saw at one point in this video, captured at the very moment of the attack, part of the gun there involved in the shooting and the people there running for cover. we know at least -- there it is, the gun on the right side there from that window. again, this video just coming in to msnbc. we understand that two people have been killed in this shooting, several people hurt, some critically, as investigators in tel aviv are searching for the gunman. and again, that video of that very, very moment of this shooting. also getting new information from the mayor of tel aviv. it had not been known the motive of this shooting, whether it was

criminal, whether it was terrorist. the mayor of tel aviv telling reporters at the scene there, as they are searching for the shooter, that the shooting appears to be a terrorist attack. this happening on january 1st, the first day of the new year, a friday afternoon local time there in tel aviv, an area already sensitive to violence in the area. with me now is msnbc's cal parry, as we continue to watch this, and really how brazen this is. and again, a busy area, a cafe. and again, in that video, you see the arm coming out, extended with the gun, again, right there. and what we know, reports of the gunman wearing black, fled the scene and is now nowhere to be found. >> yeah, so, this just shortly before 3:00 p.m. local time on dizi dizinghoff street in tel aviv. you can see the pub, the cafe very crowded. shortly after that moment, the gunman took off down the street, according to israeli police, and down a side alley, and that is why we are now seeing hundreds of israeli anti-terror police

going house to house, apartment by apartment, in tel aviv looking for the gunman. as you said, the mayor of tel aviv has called this a terrorist attack. we are going to have to wait and hear from officials higher in the israeli government, because if this was a terror attack, it will certainly be seen as an escalation. the back-and-forth violence we've seen recently has not been brazen like this. it has been more low-grade conflict. but again, certainly a terrifying attack. but how it's labeled by israeli officials will be very important going forward, not only to people across israel, but certainly for the palestinians living in the west bank and gaza. >> absolutely. alarming on several fronts there, knowing that the gunman is out there. certainly a community, the public on edge, knowing that they haven't found him. also, the mayor saying that this is a terrorist attack, and the questions -- did he act alone? did he act with the help of others? and if so, are there others still out there as well? >> and how did he get away so quickly? that's going to be one of the things that the israeli officials are going to be

looking at, because it would indicate that he did have help. the israelis, again, and we've been saying this throughout the morning, are very good at this. unfortunately, they've dealt with this a lot, so they're good at shutting down parts of the city and doing the house-to-house searches. they will also, i'm quite sure, increase security along those checkpoints in the west bank in the chance that this was a palestinian terrorist, they will not want that person being able to get anywhere. >> but in any situation, when there is a gunman and there is a gunman on the loose and there is a search for him, it's very sensitive, especially with the media coverage locally, globally, not tipping off this person as far as the investigators and law enforcement strategy in trying to find him. >> and israeli television is being very careful not to broadcast live pictures from any sort of single location in tel aviv as these searches sort of continue, because as you're alluding to, you would not want that gunman to flip on the tv and have any indication of what's going on with these searches. >> now, this as msnbc is getting this new video. on the left side of your screen there, showing the moment of that attack in tel aviv.

on the right of the window, you will see the armed man with a gun, lifting it up right there, shooting as the people inside, the customers, patrons inside the restaurant flee. so far, two people dead, several people injured. as many as seven others critically injured as well. that gunman on the loose in a massive man munt going on on the streets of tel aviv. we'll take a quick break. this is claira.

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cal parry, joining me here in studio. chapman, we'll begin with you. and what more is the mayor saying, as he's made this announcement that he believes this is a terrorist attack? >> well, i think we'll have to wait for further confirmation on that as they continually search for this suspect. as you said, he's still on the loose, so until they find him, to know exact motive is unclear. however, the mayor has said this. but going back to this video of the attack, mickey rosenfeld, who is the israeli foreign press spokesperson, he confirms this is video of the attack. and as you can see, people on new year's day sitting outside, enjoying themselves outside this bar in a very popular area of tel aviv when this man dressed in black, as eyewitnesses say, walks up with a gun and starts firing for a number of seconds. we understand that two people are now dead from this attack, as many as seven others wounded from the attack. two of them are said to be in

serious condition. but the police spokesman there saying that there's a widespread police manhunt for this attacker. they're combing the neighborhoods around central tel aviv trying to locate this attacker so that they can find out more information, potentially, or just confirm that the neighborhood is safe. they have specialist units out there, hundreds of police combing the streets, going door to door, trying to locate this person who is, you know, clearly in this video shooting what appears to be indiscriminately at these people dining outside of a bar in tel aviv. as you know, tel aviv and israel are not -- they are almost used to, i guess, terror attacks. however, we need to first confirm that this is a terrorist incident, although the mayor calling it that. we'll wait and see what authorities say as more information comes out and as they continue their search for this suspect, frances. >> chapman bell, thanks for that report. joining me here in studio is

msnbc's cal parry. cal, as we're watching this and seeing, it's one thing to have this deadly shooting happening in the middle of the afternoon in a very busy area, in a public place, a restaurant, when all these people are dining, enjoying the first day of the new year, but also the tension that still exists, knowing the gunman is still out there, and they are going building to building, door to door, i can imagine with some lockdowns, possibly, in some areas, too, trying to find the guy. >> yeah, significant lockdowns. and as you look at that video, and on the left side of your screen, you have the shooting. on the right side of the screen, you'll notice you have anti-terror police, border police, border security, you also have israeli soldiers who are off on their friday afternoon. let's keep in mind, on friday afternoon, friday evening, it becomes shibon in israel, that is the holy day. so people would have been out on the busy street, streets would have been packed. that will actually help with the search. that will help israeli officials carry out the search because again, you will have off-duty members of the israeli army

there on the scene already. again, we have the mayor sort of telling the local media that this looks to be a terror attack. he's gone back and forth on this. we stress to our viewers, very early in this. >> very early. >> and they don't have the gunman yet. so much more will be known the moment that gunman is located. and again, it's very important how the israeli government classifies this. if they call it a terror attack, it would be seen as an escalation. >> and that's what i'm curious about. so, the mayor, you would think, would know that and would be sensitive. and again, we don't know what evidence that he's been presented, we don't know what he knows, some details that we as the press, the public know at this point, but i would think they would be very cautious, given the fact that we're just a few hours in from this shooting with the gunman still out there, in classifying it as a terrorist attack. >> they are being very cautious. the israeli government is being incredibly cautious in how they phrase this, how they present it. the mayor of tel aviv, frankly, has a couple of dozen tv cameras in his face and very aggressive reporters, and he's been going back and forth. what he's been saying to the local media is he wants everyone to be alert, to stay on alert. he doesn't want to rule anything

out, and that makes sense in the early part of this investigation, but again, we have to be very clear how we classify this, whether it was terror related or a domestic violence incident. >> or a criminal attack for whatever reason. as we delve into this, also knowing you have an area where people are on edge, they're looking around, because violence is kind of something that they've seen repeatedly over and over again, but not necessarily something like this, not necessarily something as brazen as a gun. we've seen it with knives as weapons and other things, but talk a little bit about how this may be different from other attacks we've seen in the past. >> so in recent months what we've seen in the israeli/palestinian conflict is a low-grade violent conflict. the palestinians have been lashing out at israeli security forces, using knives, especially in the west bank, using cars to ram security checkpoints. we have not seen these kind of brazen attacks in recent months. suicide bombings seem to have become partly a thing of the past for israelis. a lot of that, people are saying, is a credit to that

security fence which palestinians, of course, for their part declare a humanitarian nightmare. so, this is unusual for tel aviv now, certainly during the second intifada in previous years, this would have been a part of daily life. but if this is terror-related -- and again, i think that's why the israeli officials are being so careful not to call it terrorism right off the bat -- this will have huge implications in the israeli/palestinian conflict. it will be seen as an escalation. and more than that, the israeli public will demand that the israeli government do something, and that's when we enter back into this tit for tat -- >> and the whole retaliation that may come as a result. when we talk about this, what can be said about this gunman firing, as we've seen in that video? two people killed, multiple other people, several other people, as many as seven injured, some critically, and those customers in there just ducking, fearing for their life as they realize what's actually happening. and then this gunman runs. he flees. >> he takes off running down an alley very quickly. unclear if he had help.

that's going to be very, very key to this investigation, whether anyone assisted him in getting away, and the fact that they have not found him yet is a little bit surprising. again, the israelis are very, very good at this. they've been through this before. their security forces are well trained to react very quickly, to cordon off an area, shut it down, go house to house, and that's what they're doing. and i think your point on this is key. in the age of social media, it's 2016 now, the way that the local israeli media covers this is going to be very important, not to give anything away. >> not to give anything away, not a tip-off to the gunman as far as where police are looking that may help them. but that's also interesting, too. once they find him, how that may end, whether he is taken -- he or she -- taken into custody peacefully, whether there is some sort of standoff, whether there may be a violent ending to this, that remains to be seen. so, again, more tension here for the public and this area and community. >> and especially for people who are living in that part of tel aviv, not knowing where this

gunman is, right now on the loose, and israeli police are, again, telling people to stay inside, lock their apartments, don't go out, let the police do their job. so, certainly, an unfolding and terrifying situation. >> give us some perspective on this area here. certainly a busy area, a business district with restaurants, residential area, but there's also some coastal area close to here, too, which also law enforcement are looking into as a possible place where the gunman may be. >> yeah, tel aviv is a beach town, and this is dizingoff street, named for the mayor of tel aviv. it's a popular area, lots of bars, restaurants, young people. you see it on the screen. it's not far from the beach, maybe a quarter mile from the beach, and this is what attracts young people in israel on a friday afternoon. this is where they go and congregate, because it's a vibrant scene in israel. this is where young people go and hang out. so, the timing, the location of the attack very key, very interesting, especially on a friday afternoon. we shouldn't forget that. and certainly, the israeli media is leading with that, this

attack happening just before shabab. >> and nothing left, no bombs, backpacks or anything, as well as anybody who may have been helping the gunman. >> and you see that on the right, the forensic teams, yes. >> cal parry, thank you for the perspective. we'll check back with you later as msnbc continues to follow the developments from that shooting in tel aviv. turning now to the latest from dubai, getting our first look in daylight of last night's inferno breaking out at that high-rise hotel, just hours before the city was set to ring in the new year with a fireworks display. officials are trying to figure out what caused the fire to engulf the 63-story building on new year's eve. the fire started around 9:30 p.m. local time at one of the city's most upscale hotels. fire engulfing more than 20 floors. the hotel's guests and staff were evacuated and so were the large crowds gathering downtown for a new year's celebration. and by midnight, firefighters, they were still battling the flames, but a fireworks display scheduled to take place nearby

the world's tallest building still went on. like most of the world's major cities, dubai has been on high alert for possible terror attacks, but officials say so far, there's been no indications of terrorism involved. officials say 14 people were injured. joining me now on the phone, former new york city fire commissioner thomas von essen, in charge of the department at the time of the september 11th attacks. thank you for spending your new year's morning with us, sir, as we look into this. and you consider this and you consider the scale of this fire, how massive it was, how far up in floors it was, what's your assessment of how dubai officials have been handling this, especially given that there were 14 people who just suffered minor injuries? >> it's amazing. i think they did a phenomenal job putting the fire out, interior fire is difficult, but putting out fire that's just consuming the outside of a building that's so high, 30, 40 floors of fire starting at the 20th floor, that's not easy.

and i think probably most of it just burned itself out from the outside. but the inside, when they're worried about people being trapped, people being maybe overcome with smoke, the fire burning through, the heat breaking those windows and getting inside, whether or not the sprinkler system is working, whether it's keeping up with it, all the people that might be needing help inside. it's a very, very difficult fire operation. >> difficult fire helped also by the hotel, i understand, by some reports, was only 35% occupied, which certainly helped. i can imagine, besides the priority in getting the fire out, fining the source, number one, how do you get water up that high to begin with? >> well, you want to bring it down. the sprinkler system is supplied by water up on top, and then they start pumping it from the bottom to resupply it and give it some more power, but getting hoses to the fire on the outside of the building to such a

degree, so much fire, and all of the things on the balconies, furniture, the flammable stuff, they might have propane barbecues out there. then as it gets into the apartments or the hotel rooms, whichever -- it's a mixed-use occupancy. so, it's just an enormous difficulty, and you need so many people, firefighters to conduct the search, put the fire out on the outside. and they're worrying about the other event up the road with the fireworks. it was, i'm sure, a very difficult decision for the person that had to make it, whether or not to go forward with fireworks. >> sir, not to mention also the concern and the fear for many of the people already downtown. we've seen in that video, so much of the fire and flames of debris falling down to the streets below. i'm sure law enforcement's involved, but that's also a concern in making sure the flames and the fire and debris don't hit anybody below. >> oh, absolutely. you know, you've got thousands,

maybe hundreds of thousands of people. i don't know the extent of the crowd that they get, but the police are all ushering them in a particular direction. you have people then who are running in the opposite direction to get away from debris, get away from the danger. so, it's an enormous, difficult operation for the police, fire, all the civil servants that were there. i'm sure they have emergency management. they must use military people for an event this big. and i guess that helped them also, the fact that they had so many people in place for the fireworks display, that they were able to use those folks then to try to help them with this operation, and the debris, like you said, is a very big deal, because all that stuff that you can see it just blowing off the building. and that coming from 40 floors up, if you get hit with somebody's lawn chair or table, you know, it will kill people. and to have all those 14 minor injuries, it's really very surprising. >> it absolutely is. certainly what strikes me the

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some midwesterners are beginning to pick up the pieces after a brutal week of record flooding. fatal floods are blamed for a total of 24 deaths and causing incredible devastation to parts of missouri and illinois. hundreds of people have been evacuated and about 400 homes and businesses flooded this week. nbc's charles hadlock is in st. louis, missouri, with a really tough start to 2016, charles, but it's made a little bit better by some good news and

some sunshine as well. >> reporter: that's right. here in st. louis, the worst has passed. this is the mississippi river here behind me. it crested today at 42.42 feet and is now on its way down. that's 12 feet above flood stage but 7 feet lower than it was back in 1993. now, all of this water is moving downstream. the hardest hit area, around the st. louis area, is the town of arnold. that's where the mississippi river meets the merrimack river. the merrimack river is a smaller stream, but it has flooded four feet above all record levels. it's around 400 homes, as you mentioned, were flooded along the merrimack river from ueureka, valley park and arnold. those homes are still staggering back from the floodwaters here, but the good news is the water is receding, moving south, and there is no more rain in the forecast, at least for the next

seven days, frances. >> good news for them. charles, i want to ask you, on monday, before this storm, before all the floods, people were expected to be out of vacation mode, back to work, back to school. is that still the case, or you can imagine a lot of people still out, i would think, with, especially looking at this video here and seeing how bad it is in some areas. >> reporter: yeah, well, there are two problems here. first, you have the flooded homes and businesses. people are having to deal with that. a lot of these are mom-and-pop businesses. whether they'll be able to reopen at all is a big question for them. and also for travelers just trying to get east and west, north and south, interstate 55, which runs from chicago down to memphis and down to new orleans is closed in sections. part of that has reopened overnight in the northbound lanes, but the southbound lanes still remain closed. interstate 44, which runs from here down to oklahoma still remains closed. all lanes are closed as mud and water still covers that from the merrimack river, which flooded some of the low-lying sections of that roadway.

road crews expect to have that cleared by the end of the weekend, so maybe travelers can get around that a little easier. otherwise, they have to travel great distances around their waterways to get by. frances? >> we see that sunshine reflecting on the water behind you, something i'm sure it very welcomed by the people there. >> reporter: it is. >> thank you very much. charles hadlock, i appreciate it. >> reporter: sure. >> happy new year to you. i want to bring in on the phone joseph fedderman, ap bureau chief for israel, this as we're following the deadly shooting there that has taken the life of two people and hurt at least seven with that gunman on the loose. thank you for being with me. what more are we hearing, especially with the mayor of tel aviv coming out a short time ago, saying that this is a terrorist attack? >> well, i don't know where he got that information. we're closely in touch with police, and they're exploring two theories. it could be a palestinian

attack, like the mayor said, but it's also very possible that this is some sort of crime or mafia-type hit. no one really knows at this point. >> talk a little bit about that and the culture of organized crime in tel aviv, especially when you see something like this. we're looking at the video. the portion you see circled -- what we're showing here is video that msnbc has of the moment of the attack with the gunman actually holding up the gun, shots being fired, and then inside the restaurant you see the customers running, hiding as the shooting has taken place. what more do we know about that, especially with some of that underground organized crime in the area? >> reporter: well, yeah, i mean, this is an issue that israel has been dealing with for many years. it doesn't always make international headlines. it's sort of a local story, but it's something even a few days ago we had a car bombing in a suburb of tel aviv. you have these things periodically. it's certainly not a daily

occurrence, but it's also not out of the ordinary. in general, these attacks, one of the reasons it doesn't attract so much attention is because these guys are very good at going after each other and sparing the general public. so, they kind of keep it in house. otherwise, you know, you're not affected by it. you know, i don't know what video you're looking at because i can't see your screen right now, but there is sort of an amateur cell phone video that's been floating around where you see this gunman outside of the window of the restaurant? is that -- >> you're describing what we're seeing. >> there are a lot of reasons why this may be an organized hi hit. if you look at the type of the weapon, and it appears that he knew who he was going after. you see somebody on the ground that he didn't go after. so, there's an indication that he knew who the target was. it's sophisticated. i've spoken to witnesses. the way the guy was dressed, he was disguised, he had glasses on, he was dressed in black, he had a getaway plan. so, there's a level of sophistication here that would

lean, if anything, toward the criminal element, but it's still too soon to say. >> let's talk about that, that getaway plan, as again, law enforcement and police are searching for this gunman. again, if pointing to organized crime, he would have had help getting away. >> yeah. look, the witnesses i've spoken to, it's not clear where he got to. he fled on foot and disappeared very quickly. so, right now the police are searching the area. it's very possible he just kind of bolted into a building and is hiding. maybe there was a getaway car. it's really impossible to say. you can only speculate. but because he was so good at getting away that, again, would lean toward the criminal side of things. >> and i'm sure the concern for police there as well as the public, as well as people who are out there on a friday night, now as nightfall is approaching, is how this will end, whether the gunman will give himself up, whether they'll find him, take him into custody peacefully, or

whether it will be violent. >> you know, it could be any of those things. the israeli police are usually pretty good at finding their suspects. so, i imagine they're going to find this person at some point, usually sooner than later, you know. but the atmosphere right now in tel aviv, it's a bit tense. it is not like everybody is shuttered up inside of their houses. i've been in touch with people there -- >> people are out and about? >> people are out and about, but less so than normal, partly because there's an element of panic. i think people are a little bit scared, and partly because it's a cold winter rainy day. >> all right, that certainly may come into play. josef federman, ap bureau chief there in jerusalem. msnbc with the video showing the moment of the attack in tel aviv, a public area, a commercial area in this restaurant district where a gunman, as you see there, that circle, walks up, pulls out a

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intelligence officials, but even probably more importantly, on political leaders. the germans handle, in my view, handled it extremely well. they announced what they had to. they took discrete measures. the opposite approach was in belgium, where they essentially canceled all sorts of activities. the los angeles school district was another example. it seemed to me, how you don't respond to terrorist threats. so you know, at the end of the day, we can't close down these complex, modern societies in response to threats, even when they're credible. we've got to accentuate, though, our ability to stand behind law enforcement and intelligence on proactive actions to try and stop these attacks before they start. >> general, talk about how difficult that is, though. i can imagine in weighing the fine line of saying, you know, what we know is concrete what we know is specific, and we need to act accordingly. but at the same time, what we've

seen so much is not instilling fear in the public, in the community, and not giving terrorists exactly what they want. >> oh, yeah, exactly. look, you know, at the end of the day, if we respond every time spasmodiically to these threats, they will attack the day after the supposed threat day. so, i think, again, at the end of the day, the real solution is empower the fbi and customs and border protection in the united states to keep these people out of the country, take aggressive, muscular actions against terrorists, isis figures in iraq and syria, but also make sure that we allow the national security agency and other domestic intelligence collection to identify the threats before they occur. fbi's been terrific, it seems to me, in protecting us in this manner. >> well, i want to get your take on that, especially given when the start of the new year, we've ended 2015 with, of course,

paris on the minds of many, but many of these possible attacks thwarted. in belgium, we've seen arrests from the potential terrorists as well, and even as close here as rochester, new york. so, what's your take on the intelligence-sharing when it comes to keeping us safe domestically and even globally? >> well, i think we're actually doing quite well. i say we, the united states, and some of our allies. the belgians are certainly an example at the opposite end. i lived in brussels for years. it's really an incoherent, domestic law enforcement situation, but that doesn't apply in the united states. i think generally speaking, the domestic intelligence-sharing of local police agencies, state police forces and the federal law enforcement's extremely good. it wasn't that way 20 years ago. it is today. >> let's talk about that specifically, especially when it comes to that arrest made out of rochester there. this is the person the fbi says had plans, wanting to

essentially prove himself to isis loyalists, saying you know what, i can do it. even going so far as going with an fbi informant into a walmart locally and buying the mask, the machete and everything, to have this attack planned out but was stopped. so, that's got to be in some sense, if i live in rochester, yes, that would make me afraid, but i'd also be comforted to know that the intelligence was there to stop him. >> well, you know, i think this guy -- obviously, the mental health case. this will be a very difficult case to prosecute. he didn't even have the money to buy a machete. but that doesn't make it any less dangerous. i mean, obviously, he could have carried out an attack and seriously injured people. but again, you know, what we need to do is protect against the kind of attack that just occurred in paris. we get organized teams, automatic weapons, suicide vests. that's the big threat. we've got a lot of mental health

issues that local law enforcement know who they are. they're going to have to monitor them, but boy, that's very difficult to protect against that sort of thing. >> scary to some extent is knowing what happened in san bernardino, and you know, the intelligence that wasn't there for that. general barry mccaffrey, thank you for being with us. happy new year to you. >> same to you, frances. going back to that breaking news, our coverage of the tel aviv shooting, that continues with a manhunt under way for the gunman who opened fire outside a bar. two people are dead, at least seven others injured. and again, the search for the gunman involved. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.

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at ally bank no branches equalsit's a fact.. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. we're staying on top of that breaking news from tel aviv, where police say a gunman opened fire at a bar, killing at least two people before fleeing the scene. on the right, you see the aftermath, on the left, video of that very moment of the shooting. several people were also injured there, including two who are now in critical condition, and there is a massive manhunt under way.

police say the motive is still unclear. with me now is msnbc's cal parry, senior editor for video digital content. as we delve into this, no idea if this is criminal-related, terrorist-related, we have to delve into the culture of violence there, especially when it comes to organized crime in tel aviv. >> and the mafia. and it's something people are not familiar with. we heard our guest earlier say it doesn't make global headlines. one of the interesting questions about this gunman is how did he get away, how did he get away so fast? at its height, the biggest mafia family in israel in 2004 controlled more than 30 companies, more than 40 apartments and more than 50 vehicles. so, that gives you an idea of the reach and the power that some of these underground families have in tel aviv in places like natanya, in the north of israel. so, it is sort of an established thing in israel. and as we watch this story unfold, there are certain questions that need to be asked -- why did the gunman not turn his gun on more people

outside this cafe? why did he leave so quickly? all of those questions are the very questions israeli officials and police are going to be asking. and there also hasn't been a broader warning to citizens in tel aviv -- look out for this person. and we do have some video evidence of who this person is. all of which -- and again, way too early to tell. we're going to wait for israeli officials to declare whether or not this was a terror attack or a criminally related attack. but early indications are perhaps this was criminally related when you look at all of these questions and unknowns. >> and just based on this video, it seems like the gun is pointed, shots fired, as you see the customers of the restaurant running for cover, fearing for their life. a few shots fired there, but doesn't seem to be, you know, pointing the gun to the left or right of him to kind of spray whoever's out there. >> absolutely. and this is not indiscriminate gunfire. i know it looks like it's indiscriminate gunfire, but one of the keys to this and one of

the keys to the investigation is going to be who was targeted. so, police investigators right now are in those hospitals, they're talking to the people who are wounded to try to find out, was this a mafia-type hit or was this a terrorist attack? these are the questions they're going to be trying to work out. the other interesting thing in that video, and we're circling there that gun -- that is not an m-16 rifle. that looks to be an uzi-type gun, some machine gun. that might also be perhaps an indication that this was criminally related. >> this as police in tel aviv are searching for the gunman who got away. we don't know if he had any help. this person ran off on their own or where to. but also interesting to note how this will end. we spoke with a journalist with the "associated press" earlier who says at this point, there in tel aviv, people are still out and about, knowing that this happened, knowing this took place. but i can understand still very tense, knowing that this hasn't ended, they don't know how it's going to end, peacefully or violent. >> and there are some very

uniquely israeli things that we're going to see in the coming hours. this for one thing was a friday afternoon. the timing of that, this would have been a very crowded street. this is dizengoff street in tel aviv, so it would have been very crowded. these bars would have been full of people enjoying their friday afternoon. this is also a country where if you are 18 years old, you have to serve in the army. so, you're carrying an m-16 rifle around with you at all times. that's partly why it seems that this gunman fleed so quickly. and this will help in this search, in this cordon that is under way right now in tel aviv. hundreds of officers are shutting down various parts of the city. they are going house to house, apartment to apartment, looking for this gunman. and again, local media -- and this is a point you've been making all morning, and i think it's worth repeating -- local media is going to refrain from showing some of the live pictures of the search to try to not tip off this gunman. >> all right, stick with me, cal, as i bring in mickey rosenfeld, foreign press spokesman for the israel police. i know you were speaking with us earlier, and at that point, you

were very, very careful in saying that we really need to figure out first as far as the authorities go whether this was a terrorist or criminal attack. has anything changed since we last spoke with you? have you heard anything more, especially with the mayor of tel aviv speaking at one point, saying that he believes that it's a terrorist attack? >> as far as the israeli national police is concerned and other security organizations, we're still examining at this moment in time, almost three hours after the attack, we're now examining cctv footage, and not just that specific video which i'm sure your viewers have seen, but other angles and other cctv footage that we've already got a hold of as part of the investigation. so, we're looking at a number of different angles. we're obviously trying to break down and identify the individual. we still haven't come to clear conclusions at this moment in time whether it is, in fact, a terrorist attack or not, and possibly a criminal-related incident. it's going to take time, but the most important aspect at the moment is making sure that the

areas in tel aviv on one hand continues and the different areas are still open, and i'm referring to more than the different areas that are still fully functional. but at the time, where the israeli police are carrying out searches, both in apartment buildings as well as other construction sites, making sure that those areas specifically are shut down. important to emphasize that there was no specific intelligence whatsoever of a terrorist attack that was going to take place in tel aviv or any other major city across the country, although we did have over the last 24 hours many police officers in the streets for the new year's eve celebrations which took place. so, our operational units are still continuing in the different areas, those specific areas within the radius of about two miles of where the incident took place. but unfortunately, what we've concluded until now is that two israelis were killed. we definitely know there was an automatic weapon that was used.

we know about 15, just over 15 shots were fired sporadically. luckily, no one else was killed, and there's still a large hunt going on at this moment in time to try and find that suspect. >> micky, with that large hunt, talk to me about how the public is affected. are residents being told to stay in their homes? are there lockdown situations there? and what is the public being told? >> well, within the two-mile area, we're asking members of the public to stay at their homes at this moment in time. one of the issues being that it's already now sun's gone down, it's already dark, the sabbath has come in, so a lot of people are making their way to synagogues, so we have heightened security in terms of the israeli national police. you'll find security at all of the synagogues in the tel aviv area. we don't want a second incident or second shooting unfolding in any way whatsoever. so, the accessionments are is that gunman is trying to keep a low profile, staying where he is at this moment in hiding, and this is the exact amount of time that we have to try and get to

him as quick as possible. >> all right. with that in mind, as you're telling us about the heightened security, i can imagine that is the case in other places as well. we're actually just getting in information on the number of injured that's conflicting. can you confirm how many people have been injured and to what degree? >> as far as i know until now, from the scene itself, there were ten people injured altogether with a breakdown, unfortunately, of two people that were pronounced dead, four people that were taken seriously to hospital, and apart from that, another four people that were injured moderately. >> okay. >> as a result of gunfire at the scene itself. so, those are the updates as far as i know until now from the hospital. other people were taken to hospital with shock and being treated, but the physical injuries, as i understand until now, were ten people. >> talk a little bit about the

investigation going on now, as far as knowing if this gunman acted by themselves or had the help of others, especially in getting away so quickly. >> well, that's something we're looking into. he could have been in the close area for the few minutes before at tack. he might have been in an apartment waiting or in a nearby store. he might be in some apartment building now trying to hide and wait until the police search that area and move on. but most of the area within that two-mile radius is very, very intensive as far as the police units. we have special patrol units, undercover units, border police, counterterrorism units on the scene at the moment searching literally every step, every door. so, it's a question of time until we get to that suspect. in previous attacks and in previous incidents that have taken place, it's a question of time, putting together intelligence and leads. if it's a criminal-related

incident, we'll find that suspect. if it's a terrorist-related suspect, then we might have to use odd security connections leading into the different parts of the country, all the way possibly into the west bank. it's all a question of time, and our main focus is to get to that individual as quick as possible. >> sure. and i hope you make that progress, especially given that it's nightfall there in tel aviv. micky rosenfeld, spokesperson for the israeli police, thanks for the time and for the update. as we now know, there are two people dead, four hurt seriously, four others who are hurt in this shooting at a bar, a restaurant in tel aviv, where the gunman has fled the scene and there is a massive manhunt under way in tel aviv. we'll take a quick break and come back after. ♪ ♪ (cell phone rings) where are you? well the squirrels are back in the attic. mom? your dad won't call an exterminator... can i call you back, mom?

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more perspective now on that deadly shooting in tel aviv where a gunman opens fire in a bar. law enforcement an lis jim cavanaugh, retired special agent

in charge joins me now. jim, as we're hearing these details, especially with your perspective, you've worked with tel aviv police before -- israeli police, i should say -- what's your takeaway in what's happening there? >> well, they're doing a good job. they're very efficient, the israeli national police. yes, frances, i've been in tel aviv, worked with them. they've shared lots of training on bomb squads across the years. and i think what they got here is they got this gunman who shows up, he's got a small automatic rifle. it looks like a pistol, we'd actually call it, because of the pistol grip that's concealable. it may be a draco, a mini draco, it could be an uzi. it's a small weapon. but i think the important part is when you look at that video -- and i've looked at it many times already -- he begins shooting before you even see him. so, he begins shooting behind the curtain. and the patrons are reacting to the gunfire, and he sweeps across the patrons. and as they run into the bar, he

loses their target. they run away from him, and then he sweeps across the sidewalk, trying to shoot everybody over there. so, you know, and i'm familiar with the organized crime in tel aviv. we've shared information on the bombings they have. they do have organized crime, they do have hits, murders, just like we do in america. so, certainly, it could be that, but it doesn't look like a hit on a particular person. i mean, you could have gang violence, you know, want to hit every patron at a bar or something, but he really looks like he's trying to just shoot at the crowd. if you slow that down, you'll see, before you even see the gunman, the people react to the gunfire. and they're ducking. and then his first shots are right toward the curtain. he's shooting at the crowd. as they run inside, he sweeps in a 45 across the sidewalk, probably shooting at other escaping patrons. so, they've got to determine, you know, the target, the motive, and where is the shooter. >> where is the shooter and how it will end, whether he's taken

into custody peacefully, if there's a standoff, more violence, that. so, law enforcement had to be very careful in doing this, especially given this area, a very busy area, a commercial area, although it's nightfall there now. but something certainly they're considering, jim. >> right, frances. you know, we've seen lately all the attacks in israel have been sort of knife attacks, sharp-edged objects, cars driven into crowds, as opposed to ten years ago when we saw the spate of suicide bombings at the restaurants and in the buses and on the streets. but you could have a terrorist attack. it could be. i mean, it could be a terrorist attack, a person with a rifle, a pistol, like that, who does not want to be caught. not all terrorist attackers are suicide attackers. >> all right, jim cavanaugh, as always, good to have you with me. also with me is msnbc contributor steve clemons, who joins me now. and steve, as we're awaiting more information, trying to find out the motive here, whether it was terrorist-related, criminal or even organized crime, your

takeaway. and to you, what are the markings there, given the video that we've been showing over the very moment that this shooting happened? >> well, look, we're all grasping at very little right now in looking at this. a lot of odd moments. very clearly, the gunman is someone who wanted to get away with his life. a lot of the terrorism we see are people that are very committed to creating such a footprint for their terrorism that they're willing to kind of go all in with their own lives. this is a person who escaped, went away, made a hit and wants to go on with the next day. so, that's one of the other elements of this. i was impressed by micky feldman's steadiness in being sure to differentiate between the possibility that this was either a criminal act or terrorism, and i think that's important to keep in mind for all of us, that we just don't know a lot right now. but as you pointed out earlier, the mayor of tel aviv jumped in very quickly to call this terrorism without a lot of facts. and when you have the ap bureau chief, he said well, i would love to see the information he had. so, we need to be careful of jumping to conclusions too

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good day. i'm craig melvin. lots of news on this first day of 2016. let's get started. we start with breaking news, a shooting in central tel aviv on this new year's day. two people killed, eight injured at an open-air bar on a busy

street in coastal tel aviv. a manhunt under way right now. police say it's not clear if the attack was terror-related. we have some new video. we should warn you, though, that this video is a bit graphic. this is some surveillance footage from inside that bar where the shooting happened at the moment a gunman is seen shooting at patrons. you can see it there on your screen. msnbc's cal parry joins me now with more details. what do we know at this point? >> what we don't know is perhaps more than what we do know. we don't know who the gunman was. we know two people dead, another eight people wounded in the shooting and a massive manhunt under way in tel aviv. police have not said whether or not this is a terror attack or criminally related. it's a bit unusual for israeli officials to not say so soon after an attack. at this point, it's been almost three hours. one of the interesting questions here, craig, that we have to ask is how did the gunman get away? did he have some sort of plan to get away? and that's what the israeli police are looking at right now. >> has there been more violence

in this particular part of israel over the past few days, weeks, months? >> well, there's been violence across israel in the past months, and certainly, the israeli/palestinian conflict has manifested itself in low-grade violence. we've seen knife attacks, we've seen attacks with vehicles, running them into checkpoints, into crowds. tel aviv has not seen an attack like this in quite some time. but again, it's too early to say whether this was terrorism or criminally related. there is a history of criminal gangs and mafias in israel. it's not something that makes global headlines, but certainly, this is nothing new for israelis. and some of these mafia families, craig, are incredibly powerful, at the height of one of these mafia families in 2004, they owned more than 30 companies, more than 40 apartments in tel aviv, and controlled more than 50 vehicles. so, that's the kind of thing israeli police are going to try to flush out as they look for this suspect. one other thing we have to remember, night has fallen in tel aviv. it is shabbat, the holy day in

judaism, so this manhunt continues with hundreds of anti-terror police sweeping the city. >> all right, cal parry the latest with what's happening in tel aviv. i'm joined on the phone by arena area -- rena rafael, an eyewitness in tel aviv. rena, what can you see now? what have you seen over the past few hours there? >> i was here on dizengoff when the attack occurred. i was just a few doors down, so i was here when the shots were fired. what was interesting to me is that everyone came out of the stores, and the majority of the people, especially the men, all ran towards the scene. you saw men leaving their cars midway in the street, grab their guns and run towards the scene. not many people were fleeing. even passerbyers were just speak peeking in looking for more information. different than in america, where i think the automatic reaction is to flee the scene.

since then, obviously, there's been sirens and ambulances, but it seems that it's back to normal now in tel aviv. sadly, i think this is just part of their lifestyle. they're used to all these terrorist attacks, so people are out in the street, they're going to dinner. the restaurants and cafes are open again on dizengoff. >> we should note that at this point, we do not know whether, in fact, it was a terrorist attack. but i did hear that authorities there were going door to door conducting this manhunt. can you give us any more insight into that, this manhunt that's happening right now? >> yes. we were told by the police that as much as we can to stay indoors and to be prepared for the police to knock on doors and to scout locations for a potential suspect. so, many people followed suit right after, but i think at this point, many people are back in the streets. >> this bar where the shooting happened, what do we know about this bar? what do we know about this particular area in tel aviv?

>> it's a very busy area. this is central tel aviv. it's where most of the cafes and restaurants are. i think in light of the recent months' attacks here in israel, it's been a little quieter than usual. when i passed by earlier in the day, there were maybe, i'd say less than a dozen people in this cafe, whereas previous times when i come to dizengoff, it's a lot busier. so, i will say that people are out on the street, but i think it could have been a lot worse. than it was. i think things were a little bit quieter today. >> two dead, eight hurt in tel aviv. officials there franticly searching for the gunman. rina raphael, just down the street from where the shooting happened, joining us on the phone. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. meanwhile, in the midst of heightened fear across the world, people rang in the new year last night. [ bells ]

authorities remained on high alert at the celebrations. in germany, police evacuated two munich train stations last night after receiving what they called serious evidence of a planned isis attack. the stations have since reopened, but officials say europe's overall terror threat remains high. meanwhile in dubai, a fireworks display outside the world's largest building went on yesterday, despite that massive fire thatengulfed a high-rise hotel just blocks away. smoke continues to billow from the 63-floor luxury hotel as investigators still try to figure out just what caused the fire. you can see the smoke there. authorities say at least 14 people were hurt when the fire broke out. nbc's chapman bell remains on duty for us in london this new year's day. chapman, what more, if anything, do we know about what caused that fire? >> well, craig, first of all, incredible images of this massive blaze overshadowing the

fireworks display in dubai. now, today, the latest we've heard from the dubai media office is, according to their civil defense department, cooling procedures are under way now in this building, and they're going to try to find out what the cause of the blaze was. they say it started on the 20th floor and then engulfed the building. however, as you said in dubai, the show clearly must go on. very well known for their fireworks display. the burj khalifa, the world's tallest building, the focal point for this display. so, it did continue amidst still smoking building. as you said, today that building's still smoldering, but they say the cooling procedures are currently under way. also, you mentioned in munich, also overshadowing the celebrations there. the authorities there saying they've received concrete evidence of a credible attack, a suicide attack in the city, causing them to evacuate two

strain stations in town and also send out notices, advising people to not congregate in large groups. authorities there taking it very seriously. and they say this is due to the specific nature of the threat. they were given the names of two train stations as well as this particular time that being midnight. so, they figured as this was just a few hours before the time, they had to act. and so, they swept in quickly to do this. now, today the police there are saying they don't know if these individuals that they were warned about are in germany or, in fact, if they're real people. they were given a list of names from what they say is a friendly intelligence agency, so they did act on the tip, but they are going to have a very thorough investigation. today they say now that the time has passed that their warnings there have gone back to how they were. however, as you pointed out, across europe, everyone's still on high alert after those attacks in paris, you know, also overshadowing events last night

across europe were the fireworks being canceled in brussels due to fears of an attack, following paris's lead, where the attack happened last month. so, they will continue to search, but the authorities there praising the police in munich the way they acted so quickly and avoided any chaos, clearing these two train stations and potentially averting an attack in the city, craig. >> chapman bell for us over the pond in london on this new year's day. chapman, thanks as always, my friend. while in dubai, the show went on, as chapman just mentioned there, back here, the city of rochester, new york, cancer yell canceled its local celebration after a local man was arrested for plotting an isis-inspired terror attack at a local bar the police say 25-year-old emanuel lutchman pledged allegiance with isis and was in contact with a isis member in syria. for more on the latest accused homegrown isis recruit, retired

army colonel jack jacobs. obviously, the good news is that officials caught this guy, but it is another reminder that a homegrown threat does, in fact, persist in this country. what do you make of this latest one? >> well, it points out the difference between responding to threats that we get, information that we get overseas, and how difficult it is here to keep an eye on homegrown threats. homegrown threats are very much more difficult to determine, to ferret out. it's much easier to protect the united states from threats from abroad, because we have a wide variety of intelligence -- the intelligence community from other countries, in europe, in asia and in africa, who are helping out our intelligence community and sharing information, and so, we get lots of confirmed information that's easy to verify. in the united states, much more difficult. we're on our own. we have to share information among a wide variety of both disciplines and jurisdictions.

it's much, much harder. and this is one thing that demonstrates that, craig. >> rochester's mayor canceled fireworks, despite saying that there was no credible threat. was that the right thing do? >> yeah, probably so, in this case. i mean, one of the good things, if there is a good thing about homegrown threats, is that they have a tendency, generally speaking, to be lone wolves, to be people who are operating outside a cell, although that's going to change over time, unless we pay more attention. it's easy to respond to any threat, but responding to any threat means that there is chaos. law enforcement and intelligence operations, they have to be extremely careful to make sure that any information they receive is verified independently elsewhere. if you just have a threat, there will be chaos. it makes it much more difficult to coordinate, but it demonstrates how important it is to coordinate inside the united states, craig. >> let's go back to germany here

for a second, because again, germany shutting down two of its train stations after what authorities there say was a credible threat of islamic militants from syria and iraq planning to blow themselves up. colonel, how do governments go about assessing which threats are serious enough to take actions like this? >> well, it requires coordination among intelligence operations across the world, particularly from allies. just information is useless by itself unless it is confirmed by an independent source. otherwise, you have chaos, you have mass hysteria, and you really can't act on the information that you have. that's why the information that the germans had was very, very important. they acted properly because it was confirmed by at least two other nations' intelligence operations. when you have information that's confirmed independently, then you can act. >> okay. >> otherwise, it doesn't make very much sense, and this

demonstrates how important international cooperation is in keeping terrorists at bay. >> brussels also, once again, at the center of terrorist activity here, arresting six people for a new year's terror plot. how does europe go about getting a better handle on its borders, its porous borders, and the flow of foreign fighters that are coming back from syria? >> well, it can't. i mean, it's doing a very poor job of it. the whole notion of having a unified europe with open borders makes it easy for people to leave and to come back, and more than that, to first land someplace in europe and then easily get from one place in europe to another. you see a ground swell of public opinion inside europe against the policies of an open europe, and now you have countries who are part of the european community now closing their borders or making it much more difficult for people to travel from one country to another.

this will continue, at least the capability of people to leave and come back who are radicalized or to go from one country to another and attack not in their own country. that will continue until europe comes to grips with the difficulty that exists when you have open borders. i think in this year, the new year, you're going to see a lot bigger effort to cooperate to close borders, and that will put an end to what the grand european experiment, or at least put it on hold until terrorism has gotten under control. >> colonel jack jacobs, always good to see you. thank you, sir. >> you bet. bracing for disaster. towns down river from st. louis are preparing for rising floodwaters there. we'll head to the scene next. we'll also get a check on your new year's day forecast. stay with us. this is msnbc.

welcome back. to the midwest now. deadly floods threatening thousands of folks there still. at least 22 people so far have died in missouri and illinois, hundreds of homes have been damaged there. these incredible scenes that you're seeing right now, these scenes happened after torrential rains pushed rivers and streams to near record highs. the mississippi river crested overnight in the st. louis area. floodwaters are rising there as the water now moves downstream. towns south of st. louis are most affected. msnbc's charles hadlock is there with the very latest on what continues to be a developing situation. charles, at this point, what areas are most at risk right now? >> reporter: hi. good morning, craig, and happy new year. we're at the mississippi river at st. louis. as you can see behind me, it is still flowing rapidly, but the good news is it is receding. it crested this morning at 42.42

feet. that is about 12 feet above flood stage. now, the flood stage here will remain this high until about monday, and then it will begin to recede and be back to normal around january 14th. but you ask about what towns are in danger now. well, the town of arnold, which is about 20 miles to the south of here, is right where the mississippi joins the merrimack river. the merrimack river has been a bad place to be over the last few days. it has really been flooded there. 44 feet. that's 28 feet above flood stage, 4 feet higher than the merrimack has ever been. the town of arnold has been flooded. several hundred homes and businesses were under water there. but the good news is there as well that the water is receding. and the other good news, we learned just in the last hour, interstates 44 and 55 are both reopened in both directions, in

all directions. modot, the missouri department of transportation, says that all interstates in missouri are now open. that is very good news for this region, because it has been very difficult to get around. the mississippi river, of course, runs north and south. the merrimack river runs east and west. so, trying to get around all those flooded areas has been a nightmare for people here for the last few days. but the water is receding, it's going downstream, and we should point out that the corps of engineers says that the levee systems in places like st. genevieve and cape girardeau to the south are all holding, and the water is not expected to reach the height that it did back in 1993. >> okay. >> reporter: so, everyone there is breathing a sigh of relief that they will not see any major flooding in the towns there. >> all right. things appear to be looking up a bit there in st. louis. charles hadlock, thank you so much for that report. flooding expected to continue this weekend in the midwest. the weather channel's chris warren with the very latest now for flood zones and the entire country.

snow and water causing travel troubles across the country, but it's not the water falling from the sky, it's the water that's flowing on the ground, in some cases, barely moving. let's take a look at all of the rain that has come down in the past, really the past few weeks. it has been so wet in the month of december with a lot of this rain right here coming over this past weekend, so we have a lot of flooding because of that. you look at all of the areas where flooding is either happening or is going to happen. these are flood warnings, and that's what a warning means. it means it's either happening or it's about to happen. so, as we look right now at the mississippi river in st. louis, missouri, you can see it is up to major flood stage. and then there's this, the trouble with traveling throughout parts of the great lakes. lake-effect snow, it's going to be with us throughout the day and into tomorrow. and the lake-effect snow advisories, lake-effect snow warnings, some areas when it's all said and done, there will be

feet of snow. other areas miles away, a couple of inches. that's what's so amazing about the lake-effect snow. it's amazing, but also very dangerous when you're traveling. slippery, and visibilities can be reduced just like that. so, be careful. >> all right, chris, thank you. president obama making his new year's resolution, and it includes tackling gun violence. says he plans to work around congress and use executive action. >> and on monday, i'll meet with our attorney general, loretta lynch, to discuss our options, because i get too many letters from parents and teachers and kids to sit around and do nothing.

president obama setting his new year agenda today with a brand-new push for gun control reform. the president using his weekly radio address this morning to say he is looking into new executive actions. take a listen.

>> tens of thousands of our fellow americans have been mowed down by gun violence -- tens of thousands. each time, we're told that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre or the one before that, so we shouldn't do anything. we know we can't stop every act of violence, but what if we tried to stop even one? >> nbc's ron allen is with the president in hawaii. ron, what is the president talking about doing here? >> reporter: well, craig, you heard him mention background checks, and that seems to be the target of what he's going to do. universal background checks is the goal. there is something that we often call the gun show loophole, the online loophole. essentially, it means that people who buy guns at gun shows or online are not subject to background checks, and we think the president through executive action will try to target that, to try to make that a requirement for sellers, gun

dealers who sell guns through that particular method at a gun show or online, to conduct a background check of the buyer. now, that's a significant amount of gun sales in the united states. we also have heard the president over the weeks and months recently, especially since san bernardino, talk about what they call the no-fly/no-buy loophole. essentially, there are thousands of people on the terrorist no-fly list that essentially for bids them from flying on an airplane, and the administration says you shouldn't be able to buy a gun if you can't fly on an airplane. so, that's another aspect of the gun safety laws, as he would call them, that he wants to tighten. so, that's what we think will be the two or so of the targets that the president will focus on. but the idea is, basically, to try and do something through executive action, not by trying to go to congress, because the president has been frustrated in his efforts to try to get the congress to pass what the administration calls common-sense gun safety laws,

not gun control laws. so, the rhetoric is important in all of this. but the bottom line is that the president has said that this inability, his inability, his frustration to stop more mass shootings in the united states, to do something in response in them since sandy hook, since san bernardino, since so many others, as you heard him say, since tens of thousands of people have been killed by gun violence, the president wants to do something to try and stop some of these mass shootings. he says it is the biggest frustration that he's encountered during his time in office, and he is trying to do something. so, that's what we think is going to be the focus, his new year's resolution, as you put it, beginning on monday when he meets with the attorney general, loretta lynch, to try and figure out specifically what the administration can do to try and tighten up the gun laws. craig? >> ron allen traveling with president obama and his family there in hawaii. ron, happy new year's and a thank you to you, sir, as always. let's turn to the race for the white house right now. there is a brand-new shake-up on the campaign trail with the iowa caucuses a month away now.

ben carson's campaign manager along with four other staffers quit the campaign yesterday, citing interferences from one of carson's longtime friends, armstrong williams. nbc's hallie jackson caught up with former campaign manager barry bennett, as he was leaving carson's office yesterday. take a listen to this. >> you know, his advisers just, you know, have got him to do some things that are not very smart, i think. and i can't, you know, i can't stop them, but you know, i don't need to bang my head on the wall anymore. i love dr. carson. i'm going to vote for him. >> reporter: you will? >> yeah. i just don't want to work for him anymore. >> an obviously frustrated barry bennett there. also, a new batch of e-mails released from hillary clinton's time at the state department hours before last night's ball drop. for more on all of this, let's bring in msnbc contributor and former democratic committee chairman howard dean, republican

strategist joe watkins and msnbc's alex siteitzwald. williams responded to this shake-up by saying this. take a listen. >> chaos is not a bad thing. descension is not bad, as long as the candidate comes out better, more well prepared and ready for this battle that is ahead. >> is he ready for the battle that's ahead now with this campaign shake-up, joe? >> well, i've known armstrong williams for a long time. he's a good guy, and he's a smart guy as well. we hope that this helps the candidate. of course, time will tell. iowa is right around the corner. let's face it, iowa's right around the corner, and it's going to be hard to compete in iowa, where ted cruz is so well organized on the ground. you've got new hampshire coming up very shortly as well and south carolina. these are all states where you have to have people on the ground and massive organization in order to be successful. so, it's going to be hard for ben carson to really recoup, i

think. >> howard dean, the carson campaign self-reporting yesterday, they have raised about $23 million, $23 million in the fourth quarter, potentially more than any other republican candidate this quarter. but then you have all of this internal strife. how can that be -- how can you have a campaign that raises the kind of money that this campaign has, and you've got, you know, the number of folks jumping ship just a few weeks before iowa? >> it doesn't work. internal strife is a disaster at this point, where you really have to have almost a military operation to win the iowa caucuses. i think ben carson's been in trouble for quite some time, and i think this is sort of the end of ben carson. i'd be very surprised if he finishes in the top three in any primary from here on out. he's eventually going to have to drop out. >> there's also been a lot made, howard dean, of how he has spent his money. he's raised a ton of it. and you correct me if i'm wrong here, there are also reports

that this is burn rate considerably higher than other campaigns. what is the burn rate? and what do you know about carson's campaign spending and the amount of money being spent on infrastructure in places like iowa? >> i don't know what he's doing specifically. i do know that the people who have been in iowa for msnbc have not reported that he or donald trump, for that matter, have a particularly vigorous operation. and my bet is on ted cruz. ted cruz has got the evangelical community. they're by far the best organized on the republican side, and i think they're going to deliver iowa for ted cruz and then people will have to pick up the pieces when they get to new hampshire. >> joe, if it is as howard dean puts it and as you, i believe, are putting it as well, you know, if he's done, if he's done -- if ben carson's done after iowa, is ben carson done, period? >> well, nobody's ever done,

period. i mean, there's always the chance to come back. but it's going to be hard to come back in this cycle. i mean, i think that given where he was and where he is now, i agree with howard, it's going to be awfully hard to be competitive in iowa. and if you're not competitive in iowa, it gets to be even harder to be competitive in new hampshire. you no longer have the momentum from iowa going into new hampshire and south carolina and other key states. so, it's very, very hard, even with money, to bounce back. but you're never done. he could always come back in another cycle. he could run for other office. there are lots of things he can do to stay in the fray. >> sounds like these top staffers, joe, sounds like they left because armstrong williams was trying to hijack the campaign, no? >> well, it's not hijacking. of course, it's a multiof w omaf who the candidate wishes to listen to and in most cases, the candidate will listen to who he's hired. but in an instance like this, where you have a candidate who has a lot of faith in somebody who is a longtime friend and who understands the political process, as armstrong williams does, it makes sense that the candidate might choose to listen to his friend. >> howard dean, again, those

e-mails, some 5,000 new hillary clinton e-mails released yesterday. we should note also that you have endorsed hillary clinton for president. anything significant in those e-mails? >> no. the republican chairman, who is a good guy, disappointed me greatly when he tried to pretend that she was releasing classified e-mails. they classified 2,000 of those e-mails after the fact, which the state department has a bad habit of doing. but in substance, there's absolutely nothing in those e-mails, except for some interesting gossip, and even the gossip's not that interesting. one of the things that was interesting in the e-mails was she and jake sullivan discussed in the e-mails how awful the state department e-mail system was, and both resigned themselves to having to use personal e-mails because the state department's was so awful. that was the most interesting thing in the massive dump. >> the other clinton, bill back on the campaign trail monday. he is going to be in new

hampshire campaigning for his wife, presumably the beginning of what is going to be a year of bill clinton out on the trail. it is going to be very interesting, howard dean, to see how bill clinton handles donald trump on the trail. what can we expect? >> i would say that donald trump has finally met more than his match. bill clinton's the best politician in this country, probably the best we've seen in this country since franklin roosevelt. and he's not going to respond to donald trump. donald trump is really good at what he does. his skills don't compare to bill clinton's skills. so, i think he's just helping us by criticizing bill clinton. bill clinton's going to let it float. he'll come up with a couple of great one-liners that will put him down. this is like newt gingrich complaining about being in the back of the plane. it completely undid the whole republican attack on clinton in 1996, or whatever it was. you just don't mess with bill clinton. you're going to be finding yourself six feet under before you know your name. >> joe watkins, howard dean, a big thanks to both of you on

this new year's day. >> thanks. >> good to see you. >> thanks, craig. a judge says bill cosby's wife must testify in a defamation suit against her husband. it is expected to happen early next week. coming up, the latest on that suit as well as the separate criminal charges against the legendary comedian. i'm here at my house, on thanksgiving day and

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and say that she should not have to testify under state and federal law. the decision coming on the heels of bill cosby being charged with aggravated indecent assault in a pennsylvania case. this is the first criminal charge against cosby. he has repeatedly denied all allegations in this case and others. i'm joined now by defense attorney, former prosecutor and msnbc contributor karen desoto. you have been on both sides of the aisle on this one, as a prosecutor and a defense attorney. we're talking about marital privilege here. >> yes. >> this was something that i thought was always pretty sacred. >> right. >> in the eyes of the law. apparently not so much. >> no! actually, it's changing, the law. so, each state has their own supposal imubt. there's two kinds, adverse testimony and marital privilege communications, okay? so, it's actually very complicated, craig, but the rule of thumb is, basically in criminal cases, if you're married, you don't have to testify. and then some states have civil and criminal. here we're in federal court. so, federal court will apply which state the state law applies to.

it's very complicated when you have federal and state law moving at the same time. so, the important part here is that what is her function as a business manager and what information are they trying to get versus marital communications. so, the judge has to kind of separate that out. and because she does have a dual role, she is the wife, so marital communications will be out, but really, how do you splice the marital communications from her role as a business manager? how do you divide that? so, that's why the lawyers are having a heart attack, saying this is a fishing expedition. >> if she wasn't the business manager, do we think that the judge probably would have allowed this spousal immunity? >> what information could she possibly have outside of the spousal immunity, meaning any testimony really would be a fishing testimony, because they're just posing her to find out what she knows. the only reason she is getting disposed is because she was the business manager, right? because one of the things we get information on at trials is a

business records exception. so, she is the business manager. there's a lot of information correlated to checks being written out. >> okay. >> that type of information is what the attorneys are probably going for. >> can she appeal this decision again? and if she can't, what would be her best argument? >> obviously, she can. and the question is, is it a fishing expedition? are there specific business records or business information that they're trying to get at? or are they just putting pressure on bill cosby by putting his wife under the limelight, giving her a deposition and seeing what kind of information they can ferret out? and i mean, during a deposition, it's long. i mean, you could slip up. there's a lot of time to get lots of information. so, yes, it really is a fishing expedition, craig, because you're doing the deposition to get as much information as you can. >> karen desoto, we always learn something when you're on television. thank you so much. we'll going to talk to you next hour about this as well. thank you. well, it's new year's day, and if you're like me, that means it's time for some football. there's some great football last night, great football depending on who your team is, i suppose. we've got the top two teams

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wow! well, the countdown to new year's may be over, but the countdown to the college football championship now begins. number one-ranked clemson will take on number two alabama for the title after both teams won their semifinal games last night. clemson stayed unbeaten, running away from oklahoma in the second half. meanwhile, alabama blew out michigan state, 38-0. coach nick saban going for his fifth -- count them, five ncaa national championships. joining me now for a preview, yahoo! sports writer eric adelson. eric, let's talk about what we saw yesterday, number one clemson everyone now taking on number two alabama. you've got the top-ranked defense taking on the top-ranked offense. who's got the advantage? >> actually, i think it's clemson. i think that clemson with

deshaun watson. alabama hasn't seen a player quite like that quarterback. and even though alabama looked ferocious last night, i think it's very hard to match up against deshaun watson. i think he's -- i personally think he's the best player in the whole country, and i like clemson to pull off the upset in this one. >> what's interesting about the clemson football program is folks who have been following it, you know, four, five years ago, they were not national title contenders. you know, alabama, lsu, these are guys who are in the mix year in and year out. clemson has built the best program in america in a very short period of time. >> yeah, it's a great story. dabo swinney is from alabama. he coached and played at alabama, and now he's built a real rival to alabama. it's going to be a great matchup of styles. dabo swinney just never seems to stop smiling and nick saban, who never seems to smile. so, it's a really good story line here, and i think it will be a great matchup of coaches and of teams. >> let's talk about saban, again, going for his fifth title. where do you rank him in terms of the all-time greats?

>> well, if he wins this one, it's very hard to rank him anything other than number one. urban meyer has also won everywhere he's been, but this kind of dynasty in college football is very rare. he's won in multiple places. i think this one will probably put him up at the top, if he's not already there. >> i do wish, though, that both of them would stop dancing. i don't know if you've seen the video of saban and dabo dancing with their teams after the wins. either they should stop it or they should stop letting people record them dancing. we should talk about the games out west as well. we've got five bowl games taking place today, including, of course, the big rose bowl matchup, iowa/stanford, fiesta bowl, ohio state and notre dame. who do you like? >> well, i like ohio state. i think ohio state might have been one of the top four teams, if not for losing to michigan state. i think that they're a steam-roller of a team. the other game i actually like is michigan/florida. i think the winner of that game will be a favorite, i think, to get in the playoff next year.

so, this is almost a preview for the 2016 season as the start of 2016. >> i hope clemson/alabama's a good game. i hope it's a good game. that 38-0 blowout last night, that wasn't fun to watch after a while. i hope we get a good game next monday. eric adelson, yahoo! sports, happy new year's, my friend. >> you, too. thanks for having me. an extensive, new study by the "washington post" says nearly 1,000 civilians were shot and killed by police officers in 2015. up next, we'll take a look at some of the reforms that some of our nation's largest police forces are implementing in the new year. marie callender believes that her chicken pot pie is the perfect ingredient for catching up with family. so she takes the time to prepare a perfectly flaky crust made from scratch, and mixes crisp vegetables with all white meat chicken in a delicious gravy. ♪ because marie callender knows that making the perfect dinner isn't easy as pie, but finding someone to enjoy it with...sure is. marie callender's. it's time to savor. and now there's even more to savor with family size pot pies.

chicago mayor rahm emanuel this week announced new reforms to that city's police department following an outcry over recent shooting deaths at the hands of officers. >> the difference between whether someone can use a gun and when they should use a gun, and we as a city must train for that difference. >> the reforms include equipping

more officers with tasers and more training in de-escalation tactics. the latest protests in chicago followed the shooting deaths by police last saturday of a 19-year-old who was struggling with mental illness as well as his neighbor. for more on what these reforms could mean in chicago, let's bring in jim cavanaugh, law enforcement analyst for msnbc. first of all, will more tasers mean fewer police shootings? >> well, you know, taser is a very good police weapon. it can be abused, it can be misused like any other weapon, but it's an intermediate weapon that allows officers to use a less lethal option sometimes and that's good. if the only option you have is your firearm, then that's not always the best thing. you need negotiation skills, you need a baton, you can make strikes on the thigh, on the extremities that can be effective. a taser sometimes, pepper spray,

k-9 dogs. you know, a lot of these incidents can be de-escalated before someone is killed. a dog bite is a bad thing but someone is alive afterwards and you can go get hospital treatment for the dog bite. so k-9s are effective. tasers can be effective. you need all the tools and you need negotiation skills. >> why haven't we just seen every police officer in america given a taser? if we know that it is harder to accidentally kill a suspect or perceived suspect with a taser, why not just give all cops tasers? what's the drawback? >> well, i don't think there's a drawback. you have to be trained. of course, it's money. they cost money. you have to have training. i think officers need tasers. they have to be used within the parameters that they are designed and used effectively. of course, the public then sees that every situation a taser should be used and that's not necessarily true. if an officer's alone, for example, and someone's out there say with a baseball bat or a

knife, the officer is facing them alone, that's not the time for a taser. i mean, the taser can miss, one barb cannot stick. the taser might not be effective, the person could have thick clothing on. you wouldn't stake your life on it if you were one officer. now, if you had two or three officers, one may -- maybe could deploy a taser while the others cover with a firearm in case the guy charged the officer. so it's not a panacea but we see things erupt too quickly. we don't see the effort at de-escalation, crisis intervention training is huge for police. they need to slow things down a little bit sometimes. slow it down. if you're talking and nobody's dying, that's a good time. bring some more forces in. bring in a k-9 officer. bring in other negotiators. bring in people that can de-escalate and get that mindset that you're guardians of everyone, even the person who might be violent with the

weapon. >> the "washington post" recently analyzed nearly 1,000 shooting deaths by police this year, this past year. i want you to react just to some of what they found. one in ten shootings, in one in ten shootings, the subjects were unarmed. what can we make of that? >> whenever you see a person who is unarmed killed by the police, you really have to examine that case closely. now, some of those cases can be justified. homicidal maniacs charging officers, you know, they can be justified. but a lot of times, that's where your problems come in, when unarmed people are killed. now, sometimes they are reaching for the officer's gun. like i say, sometimes they can be legitimate. but that's where you look first. those are usually ones to look at closely. >> a quarter of the instances, mental illness played a factor. your thoughts on that? >> yeah. well, you know it's every day for the police. you're not going to talk to any police officer who hasn't dealt with mentally ill or mentally disturbed people.

it's really not that unusual for officers to do it. they do it good most every day in america. so we just need to do it better. we need to slow it down. we need to have our command and control, our sergeants ready to slow it down. i have said the police disease is we are too impatient. we all suffer from that in law enforcement because we are action oriented people. we want to get things done. and that's good, and that can help, in a lot of cases, but we've got to work to slow ourselves down and realize that sometimes, time, you know, ebbs and flows and you have to use it to your advantage in this way and that. the good officer can de-escalate every situation. not every situation but many situations. >> happy new year, my friend. thank you for your time. man hunt in tel aviv after an attack leaves two dead and several hurt. police say they are still not sure it's terror. also, new year's eve attacks

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police say at this point it is still unclear if the shooting itself was terror, if it was domestic, but there are some new details on the investigation at this hour, including that police are looking at a bag that was found at the scene there in tel aviv. no details on its contents but let's start with cal perry, who joins me now with some other new details. what more do we know at this hour? >> the manhunt continues. we have heard some initial police press conferences in the past hour. we heard from a local police chief who said that quote, all directions are being explored. one of the reasons for this is a recent audio message purportedly from the leader of isis and nbc cannot independently confirm, this audio message last saturday did specifically threaten israel. that's not something that we hear consistently from the islamic state. but at this hour, again, the police and officials in israel are not willing to say whether this was a terrorist attack or a criminally motivated attack. night has fallen in tel aviv. it is important to remember this is the holy day of the week for

judaism, for those who are living in israel. we do understand that security has been increased around synagogues in tel aviv but people have been told they can go about their normal life. >> we have mickey rosenfeld on the telephone, former spokesperson for the israeli police. thanks for being with me. what's the latest on the manhunt at this hour? >> at this moment in time we are focusing and concentrating on buildings in and around the area where the attack took place, within about two, three miles, focusing and we are making sure we are searching every building. we told residents in that specific area to keep their doors shut. they are swiftly making their way from building to building, hoping to find that suspect that carried out that incident, opened fire with an automatic weapon this afternoon. as far as we're concerned, we

are still in the middle of a tremendously large hunt [ inaudible ]. >> do you guys know who you are looking for right now? do you know who fired the shots? >> we are still examining at the same time as the operation is taking place and searching the different buildings, our investigators are examining the cctv, every angle, to try and get more information. we definitely know an automatic weapon was used. we definitely know he was in a nearby store just before he opened fire. we are trying to find out exactly what happened moments before that shooting took place. it's still not clear to us whether it's terrorist related or criminal related, but as far as we're concerned, we are still searching building to building in the different areas in order to make sure that we can get to that suspect. an important point being

[ inaudible ] in and around the synagogues. a lot of people are praying. until now there has been no further incidents, which is important. we have to try and make sure we find that suspect. so no doubt the search will continue throughout the evening, throughout the night. >> really quickly, your cell phone signal seems to be breaking up a bit. i do want to ask you about this bag that was reportedly found at the scene. what was inside that bag? >> obviously i'm not going to go into the evidence that we have [ inaudible ]. it's still not 100% clear. we are still searching. the situation very much under

control. the area is being locked down within a short radius, a short two to three mile area. security assessments are being made all the time throughout this afternoon, throughout the evening. >> mickey, had there been before this, to your knowledge, a credible threat from isis? >> specifically in connection with terrorism and inside israel, we have dealt with terrorist acts, unfortunately, over the last few weeks, many in jerusalem and the west bank area. there was no specific indications. isis terrorist cells do not exist inside israel. we make arrests and try to get ahold of these individuals that try to make their way into turkey and syria. that's a separate issue.

but at this moment in time, it's focused on tel aviv, the heart of israel, making sure we find the suspect. we are looking at intelligence, looking at operations and carrying out security assessments as we are talking right now. >> mickey rosenfeld, israeli police spokesperson with an update on the frantic search that's happening right now. again, two people dead, several others have been hurt. night has fallen there in tel aviv. at this point, mickey saying there's no definitive link to terror at this hour. thank you so much for your time. do keep us up to date if you can, please, sir. let's bring cal perry back in. what do you make of what we just heard? we did learn it was an automatic weapon as well. >> one of the things that israeli police are being very careful not to do is in labeling this, it will have repercussions. if it's labeled a terrorist attack that will have serious repercussions in the west bank and gaza. in many ways, tel aviv, like cities like beirut, are a litmus

test for how things are going in the region. that's why we are spending so much time sort of unpacking this. if this was a terrorist attack, it's a sign that things are perhaps turning. we worry very much here in the u.s. about what we call home-grown attacks from the islamic state. that is a top concern in israel, where you have a very large arab population living within the state of israel. that's going to be a concern for officials as they move forward in this investigation. they are very clearly not willing to label this and that's for more than just political reasons. that will have serious implications on the ground. >> thank you. we will come back to you in a little bit. across the globe, heightened fears on this new year's day. authorities were on alert in many cities as people rang in the new year last night. in germany, police evacuated two munich train stations after receiving what they called serious evidence, evidence of a planned isis attack. the stations have since reopened but officials say europe's overall terror threat remains high.

meanwhile, in dubai, the massive fireworks display went on outside the world's largest building despite a massive fire that engulfed a high-rise hotel just blocks away. we are getting some new images this hour of the interior of that hotel from the dubai media office. you can see the extent of the damage there inside, the extent of that damage and what that building looks like today, after the fire. investigators are still trying to figure out precisely what caused the blaze. it's a 63-floor luxury hotel in dubai. authorities say at least 14 people were hurt. nbc's chapman bell is in london for us. at this hour, do we know any more about what caused it? >> reporter: no, we don't, craig. but what we do know according to the civil defense department in dubai, cooling procedures are still under way at the site of this blaze in this hotel that was engulfed in flames, and they say a full investigation is under way to find out what the

cause of this massive blaze was. as you saw, flames erupting just hours before they were to ring in the new year with a massive fireworks celebration. however, authorities were happy that the blaze had been brought under control enough to continue on with their fireworks display but while the building was still smoldering nearby. as you are seeing today, still smoldering and the extent of that damage very, very bad. essentially gutted. then as you said, another new year's scare, this one in munich. police saying they had concrete evidence of a suicide attack in the city. they say it's concrete because they had a location, two train stations, as well as a time that the attack they were told would be taking place at midnight. so not taking any chances, they swooped in, closed these two train stations and also sent out alerts on twitter in multiple

languages advising people to stay away from the train stations and also to avoid gathering in crowds. they are being praised by their ministers today for acting so swiftly and avoiding any chaos, but they will still have a full investigation to try to find out who these individuals are that they received the names of from what they call a friendly intelligence service to find out if these people are in fact real and also, are they in germany. so a full investigation under way there. as you know, heightened security all across europe still after the paris attacks. >> i do want to ask about something we are just getting into the newsroom here. apparently in southeastern france we are getting word of an incident there. soldiers who were trying to protect a mosque there and a consider tried car tried to run over them. what can you tell us about that? >> the police chief tells nbc news that they believe these four soldiers were in fact

targeted, not the mosque, and that a car drove into the soldiers, slightly injuring them. they were able to open fire on the vehicle. we are told emptying their clips on this car. the driver was injured and is in the hospital there. they still do not know the identity of the individual or the motive but an investigation will be under way, as i said, they believe these soldiers were the target of the vehicle. as you know, france remains under a state of emergency after the attacks in paris last month. part of this state of emergency entails guarding houses of worship, mosques, synagogues, churches, particularly around this holiday period, as they have tried to avoid any more terror attacks or in fact, revenge attacks from these attacks back in november. >> chapman bell for us on duty in london, thanks as always. back here in the american midwest there is deadly floods now rivaling historic levels. at least 22 people have died in

missouri and illinois. hundreds of homes have been damaged or destroyed. flood waters still threatening thousands of people there. the mississippi river did crest overnight, in the st. louis area, but flood waters are rising downstream as the water moves along. towns south of st. louis are the towns that are most affected right now. msnbc's charles hadlock is there. charles, the last time we spoke, you indicated that we were getting a bit of good news there, that being that the interstates are now all reopened in missouri. >> reporter: that's right. as you mentioned, the interstates are open, interstate 55 and 44 were reopened today. that is great news for the people of the st. louis area, who have been hampered by trying to get around in these flood waters. the flood waters have receded so some of the roads have now reopened. take a look at the mississippi river as it passes st. louis. the water here is ten times faster than it flows over

niagara falls. because of that, the coast guard has closed a five-mile section of this river to barge traffic. also railroads have been busy untangling the backlog of trains trying to get across the river in other areas that were flooded over the last few days. as you mentioned, the roads are reopening here. but the misery continues in towns like arnold just to the southeast of here. that's where the meramec and the mississippi come together. people are still cleaning up from the mess left behind this week. >> charles hadlock for us in missouri, thank you. more floods expected this weekend in the midwest. the weather channel's kelly cass is here with the latest on that. >> reporter: we are still looking at the mississippi rising, south of st. louis as charles mentioned. we did see our third highest crest on record for st. louis. a lot of people have been comparing this to the flood of '93. we still had the tennessee river, the arkansas river out of its banks. many creeks and streams are overflowing still, not just in the midwest but all across the

south as well. this area seeing more than a foot of rainfall over the past week or so. the good news is we see a pattern change, some drier air moving into the midwest, including st. louis, so we are not expecting any more drops of rain as we are now into 2016. however, we are still looking at the mississippi river staying in major flood stage right through the next couple of days before it finally starts to come back down. we are expecting it to go below flood stage by next friday. so it's going to take some time. it's a big river. but thankfully, the weather is cooperating. we are not expecting any additional rainfall across st. louis. we are looking at sunshine, temperatures seasonable for this time of year, upper 30s as we head into the day tomorrow. just above freezing for monday. no rain, no snow. it stays dry tuesday into wednesday, but temperatures do warm up a little bit back into the mid 40s. which makes this so unusual is to have the flooding this time of year. usually it's in the spring when you get all the runoff from the snow melt. this is a very unusual rare event that we just saw here

along the mississippi. back to you. >> kelly cass at the weather channel, thank you. after a year in this country of more than 359 mass shootings, that's right, 359, president obama expected to introduce some new gun control measures. executive orders next week. we'll talk about that next.

a few months ago i directed my team at the white house to look into any new actions i can take to help reduce gun violence. and on monday, i'll meet with our attorney general, loretta lynch, to discuss our options because i get too many letters from parents and teachers and kids to sit around and do nothing. >> president obama there ringing in the new year by setting a new agenda for gun control reform.

the president using his weekly address this morning to reveal a plan for new executive actions. nbc's ron allen is traveling with the president in hawaii, where the sun has come up there since the last time we chatted. what is president obama planning to do here, ron? >> reporter: well, craig, we don't know exactly what he's going to do, but we know that he's going to do something. the president has said on a number of occasions that this is his biggest frustration during his time in office, his inability to get the congress to pass what he calls common sense gun safety laws to try to do something in response to these mass shootings, hundreds of them that happen in the united states every year, leaving thousands of people dead. the president we think is going to try and target this idea of background checks. there are a lot of gun sales that happen in the united states at gun shows, online, where the buyers are not subject to background checks, the gun dealers are small volume dealers who are not required by federal

law to do that. that is one area we think the president is going to target. another area perhaps, this notion of we have heard a lot about the no-fly, no buy list as they called it since the paris attacks, since the san bernardino attacks. these are people on a federal no-fly list because of suspected terrorism activities or connection to terrorism who are still able to buy a gun. the president has said this doesn't make sense and these people, perhaps thousands of them, should not be able to buy a gun. so we are not talking about sweeping legislation, not talking about a sweeping executive order. we are talking about trying to do something. the president again feels very frustrated at his inability to in some way try to do something to prevent these mass shootings. he knows he will meet a lot of opposition in the congress, there will be a huge backlash, the nra and gun rights advocates will push back at this hard, so all this is probably going to end up in court at some point, as has the president's efforts to try and address the

immigration laws based on executive action. but clearly, the president says he has to do something to try and stop these shootings in some way. so that's what we expect to hear more detail about on monday when he meets with the attorney general, loretta lynch. but this is something the president has been talking about for many, many weeks and now finally he's going to try and do something about it. >> ron allen in hawaii on this new year's day, thank you. the new year also means less restrictive gun rules in texas. at the stroke of midnight, new open carry laws took effect in the lone star state. gun rights expanding throughout the state now allow some texans to wear hand guns in holsters or on their hip or over share soldier in the so-called dirty harry style while in public. businesses can post signs in english and spanish banning

those. a red nation/blue nation disparity there. i want to bring in bill richardson to talk gun control with us. thanks for being with me today. we were just talking to ron allen there about what we might get from president obama next week with regard to these new executive actions on monday potentially requiring gun show dealers to seek more background checks for some gun sales. what do you think about what we know about the president's plan so far? >> well, i believe that it's going to be narrowly focused gun show loopholes, i'm sure he will address that. i think the politically stronger measure might be linking it to the terrorism issue. in other words, the no-fly zone, not allowing those that have traveled to countries like sudan, saudi arabia, have more rigorous visa requirements. the woman in san bernardino that was allowed in on a spousal visa

obviously had attacked the united states on social media. so i think there needs to be a combined effort there, but i think politically, i heard your report by ron allen. the congress will do nothing. these measures will be challenged in the courts, they will probably for awhile not be implemented if at all, but i think public opinion is backing the president, because there's been so much gun violence. i would hope that also the mental health issue is addressed, those individuals that have mental health problems should not be dealing with these weapons. but again, i was a congressman at the time when president clinton proposed some gun control measures and we the democrats lost the congress which is the assault weapon ban. so politically, nothing is going to move in the congress. >> national rifle association actually endorsed you when you

were running for re-election as governor of new mexico back in 2006, i believe. you are a gun owner. i'm curious overall, do you think that this president, you think president obama has done enough with regard to gun control? >> well, you know, he's stymied by the congress. i am a westerner and i'm a hunter, but i think there are some measures that need to be addressed. this gun violence is out of control. i think the gun show loophole needs to take place. closing it, narrowing it, i think this terrorism problem, the k-1 visa issue that i mentioned, so i think there are some very rational westerners out there that think we have to address this issue but it's got to be bipartisan. it's got to be republicans and democrats. a dialogue is needed that links the terrorism, protecting americans from terrorism to gun violence, to mental health.

i think this is a time perhaps for a national commission. i know you are going to laugh at that, that addresses this of bipartisan leaders to come together because this is a problem that's getting out of control. >> i laugh because i can't remember a national commission that has ever generated any sort of significant piece of policy or legislation. >> all right. okay. okay, all right. >> let's turn to politics for a second. we saw the shakeup in the ben carson campaign yesterday. howie jackson spent some time talking to the man who is now ben carson's former campaign manager. take a listen. >> some of his advisors just, you know, have got him to do some things that are not very smart, i think. and i can't, you know, i can't stop them but you know, i don't need to bang my head on the wall anymore. >> you are talking about armstrong williams. >> yeah. armstrong williams.

>> barry bennett there. i mean, you have run a couple of these campaigns. campaign in-fighting, is that typically the precursor to a campaign shutting down? >> well, maybe not shutting down but obviously carson started out very strong and he's going down in the polls, so he feels he has to do something. at the same time, carson's never been in a political race so he may be inexperienced. but the measure to take when you're down and you're a candidate is to fire some people. and what i suspect is also happening, having been involved in these campaigns, is i saw that armstrong williams, who by the way is a smart guy but is a buddy of ben carson, there could be a clash between the campaign staff and peers of the candidate. that happens a lot. i don't know if this is the case, but obviously, carson is going down and you have got people like rubio and people

like cruz going up and trump stays where he is, you know, it's a flavor of the month situation. but it's still 30 days away. but i do think that carson is in a bit of trouble. i wouldn't be surprised after new hampshire and iowa, he has to reassess, because when you're not doing well in those first two primaries like happened to me, the money dries up and you can't possibly run a campaign in 48 other states with your personal funds unless he's got a lot of personal funds, which i don't know if he does. >> governor bill richardson, always good to see you. happy new year, sir. >> same to you, craig. all the best to you. chicago mayor rahm emanuel imposing a series of police reforms in that city but are they enough to calm the storm of protests that are calling for him to step aside? that's next. staying in rhythm...

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amid continuing protests over police force in chicago, mayor rahm emanuel announcing reforms to the city's police department including more tasers for officers. >> there's a difference between whether someone can use a gun and when they should use a gun. and we as a city must train for that difference. >> i'm joined from washington, d.c. by lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for the chicago sun times. are these reforms enough to restore the police's credibility with the public, and are they enough to keep rahm emanuel in office? >> two questions there. let me take the second one first. happy new year to you. there is no recall or impeachment provision in chicago and although there is legislation filed that could make it happen, nothing's going to happen in the short term. rahm emanuel is not going anywhere. now, it's his challenge to restore credibility and trust in the police department that was

lost so much after this november incident became public with the police dash cam video, where a 16-year-old was shot 17 times. mayor emanuel then started to put in some police reforms but last saturday, when two more people were shot, including a 55-year-old woman by accident, that further eroded trust and credibility with the public, with the police and with rahm emanuel's tenure as an overseer of police. so will these provisions work? it's just too soon to tell. they are supposed to be training that starts right away on de-escalation and different tactics, mental health training to deal with using less force rather than more in response to a police call. >> you just mentioned the laquan mcdonald shooting there. yesterday the police department released thousands of documents about that shooting. they also released more video from the shooting. what if anything did we learn from those documents and that video? >> well, what we learned from

the city hall e-mail documents, really, a series of e-mails, is how much city hall was concerned in trying to control the public relations and the messaging. there was a lot of back and forth between communications people to try and control the situation, which ended up spiraling out of control -- >> control or cover up, lynn? >> well, i'm saying right now control because cover up is something we have not seen a smoking gun so i'm being careful here. i know that that is something that people are making inquiries about. certainly in this last release of thousands of documents, nothing surfaced so far that merits the use of the word coverup but what we know from these documents is that city hall people knew about the seriousness of this laquan mcdonald shooting shortly after it happened in 2014, though that

video would not surface publicly until november 2015. >> lynn sweet, always good to see you. happy new year to you as well. >> happy new year. a rochester, new york man's alleged plans for new year's eve now has him under arrest. federal authorities say that he plotted to launch an attack in his hometown, but what motivated him and how prepared was he to carry that out? we will talk about that next.

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in a statement from her family to the associated press, the family said in part quote, natalie fought a fierce courageous battle, dying how she lived, with dignity, strength and honor. our beloved mother and sister will be greatly missed and remain unforgettable in our hearts forever. natalie cole suffered from a few bouts with substance abuse, liver disease. she had undergone chemotherapy for hepatitis c in the past. she did have an amazing voice. natalie cole was 65 years old. terror threats were front and center at new year celebrations around the world. rochester, new york canceled its fireworks show after this man was arrested for plotting an isis inspired terror attack at a local restaurant. overseas, munich, germany shut down two train stations because of a potential isis suicide bomb threat there. and brussels arrested six people on thursday for allegedly plotting a new year's attack

there. for more on the isis terror threat, steve clemens, editor at large for "the atlantic" magazine. thanks for being with me. first of all, how will all the threats around the world factor into u.s. foreign policy in 2016? >> well, the bottom line is the world is faced with a whack-a-mole problem with a terror entity that is primarily in syria and iraq but has begun to bounce into places like libya and from those places, has either been able to export training and munitions and direction into some western european capitals and also places like turkey, but it's also been able to inspire lone wolf attacks, people who are believers and who want to take action on their own which may be the case as we just see in a case with a gentleman that was arrested this past day in rochester, new york. so it is an ongoing problem. and a whack-a-mole problem

creates a reactiveity where a vigilance at looking at things but that confounds smart strategic planning about what the president of the united states wants to do to square foreign policy. there's a real tension that an entity like isis creates for foreign policy. >> the authorities in munich reopened the train stations but say the threat there was very credible. you have got the situation in brussels, it seems as if every other day now, there is some report out of europe about either the raising or lowering of a terror threat. how serious is the security situation right now in germany? how serious is the security situation in europe on the whole? >> after when we have seen in places like paris, where hundreds of people have been killed but i should also mention just missouove out of europe fo minute, look at the many thousands that have been killed in africa by boko haram, is that cities around the world are facing real challenges keeping

their people safe. when you look at whether isis or some terror incident can bring down a government, that's not likely. but we are seeing an emergent of right wing policies in reaction to the refugees, in reaction to the stress from radicalized often muslims and others that have come into their societies. so to that degree, it does challenge the sort of basic character of a country, particularly democracies that want to remain open societies. so from that standpoint, it is a very, very important threat to manage and move beyond and hopefully not change the core content of a society in reaction to these terror threats. >> let's also talk about what's happening in tel aviv right now. in fact, we just got some new video of the suspected gunman. this is the suspected gunman there inside a grocery store shortly before the attack there at a bar in tel aviv.

again, two people dead, more than a half dozen injured right now. we at this point do not know the motivation behind the shooting. but what's the situation, the security situation in israel right now? >> well, we have had a spate of incidents of knifings, of car attacks, and violence over the last several months. so israel overall is fragile right now and tense. as many have pointed out with this incident that happened in tel aviv outside this pub, it's unclear whether this is simply a criminal act, some have speculated a mafia hit, or whether it's an act of terror driven by other forces. so that's not known. i have been impressed with israeli police authorities that have been careful not to cross the line and call this terrorism yet until they know more. but the fact is, whether it's tel aviv, whether it's los angeles and what we just saw happen in san bernardino, paris or munich or brussels, there's a

fragility out there and kind of a palpable sense that things could go bad at any moment in a way that's very different than we used to experience with al qaeda. al qaeda used to go after terror targets and trophy targets, and this more regularized any mall is okay or, you know, a center like we saw in san bernardino for rehabilitation and people trying to improve their health, that those kind of sites can fall within a terrorist target range is something that put the world on edge, including in places like tel aviv, israel. >> the softest of soft targets. steve, always good to have you. thank you so much for your insight and perspective, sir. the likelihood that bill cosby's wife will have to testify in a lawsuit against him. we will talk about that on the other side of this break.

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with a judge's ruling that she has to testify in a defamation case against her husband. the case itself stems from sexual assault allegations of seven women. the judge's ruling states in part quote, mrs. cosby's dual role as defendant's wife and business manager render it at least plausible that mrs. cosby is in possession of information that is relevant to any party's claim or defense, and proportional to the needs of the case. mrs. cosby's attorneys are calling the move a fishing expedition and say she should not have to testify under state and federal law. the decision coming just a couple days after bill cosby was charged with aggravated indecent assault in pennsylvania. this is the first criminal charge against cosby, bill cosby has repeatedly denied all allegations in this case and others. i'm joined by defense attorney, former prosecutor and msnbc contributor karen desoto. let's talk about the defamation claims first of all for folks who have not been following all

of this as closely. bill cosby sued a number of the women who had claimed that he had sexually assaulted them in some way, correct? >> yes. yes. >> and now the deposition here is an attempt to find out what. >> well, we don't know what the deposition is about but we know by the judge's words that he's saying at least plausible that she may have some information, so you notice the judge is staying away from the marital communication area and saying that, we have a unique situation here. we have somebody who is married to bill cosby who is a brand, worth an estimated $200 million. this is a business. she was the business manager. so to the extent that there could be some business aspects that she could testify to, she should, because as attorneys, we spend a lot of time on business records, maybe checks that have been written out to certain people, maybe business documents that are relevant to our civil case and that's all information that a business manager would have knowledge of. >> what's the first question that you think camille cosby

should expect to get? >> well, obviously, depending on who the attorney is, you are going to start light and you are going to start with basic things like how long have you been the business manager, what type of things to do, what is your title, what kind of things are you in charge of, and try and at least draw some type of line between business manager and wife. >> 57 women at this point, at last check, 57 women allege some sort of sexual misconduct. you have been following the story since the beginning. yesterday we had this tweet from bill cosby and it said basically, here's the thing, we have it there, friends and fans, thank you. public opinion in this case, with regards to the criminal case that he's facing, how will that impact or affect the defense's strategy? >> oh, it's going to affect it a lot. now are you going to get any jurors that have not heard of this case, haven't heard the 50 to 55 women? it's going to tremendously impact it because you are not

going to find somebody who hasn't read the papers or seen it and how is that going to -- it's almost like you are getting testimony in that shouldn't be getting in, because there's not a person in the united states who doesn't know the facts of this case or at least know the rumors and allegations. that's very dangerous for defense attorneys. >> how real is the possibility at this point that he faces other criminal charges connected to some of the other accusations? i know the statute of limitations expired for just about all these women. >> we can talk about that for a very long time because in this case it was actually part of a campaign issue whether or not the bill cosby case was going to be reopened and quite frankly, back in 2004, you had eight to ten jane does so to say now that it's correlated to new evidence when this case should really have been charged back in 2004 and the impact of whether or not you are going to win or not win an election based on bill cosby is pretty disturbing when you are talking about justice and independent district attorneys. >> you think that's something

that's going to be involved in the actual trial? >> i absolutely would involve it. because i think that to the extent this case was even brought was probably pressure from the public, yes, but it was used in campaign ads and instead of saying i'm going to concentrate more on prosecuting rape cases and sexual assaults, i'm going to reopen the bill cosby case? there is something very disturbing about that. >> thanks as always for your insight. in a moment, more on the death of music legend natalie cole, who died last night at the age of 65.

welcome back. more on the sad news we have been reporting on this new year's day. legendary r & b singer natalie cole died overnight. the 65-year-old daughter of legendary jazz musician, the late great nat king cole died at cedar sinai hospital in los angeles. her publicist says her death was from complications related to

ongoing health issues. natalie cole won nine grammy awards, including album of the year, record of the year as well for that virtual duet of unforgettable with love was the name of the album. she created that with her late father's recordings. i'm joined for more insight by kim seraphin, senior editor at "in touch weekly." that album was absolutely amazing. >> oh, amazing. sold 14 million copies. as you mentioned, won six grammys. album of the year, record of the year. it was one of those songs that so many people knew and got to know her and got to know her father from. it attracted a younger audience so people who maybe had never heard her father's song or heard it and thought of it as an older song, it brought in a whole new audience. it was so touching. it was beautiful to listen to. >> natalie cole managed to get out of the shadow of her father. her father nat king cole died in i believe 1965 from lung cancer,

but he had a shadow that cast itself, still does, he had an amazing voice, but she was able to get out from that. she was just a remarkable talent in her own right. >> yeah. exactly. like you said, people did get to know her through that 1991 album. a lot of people maybe got introduced to her that way. she really was a star in othhern right. she said that album was a way of reconnecting with her father. she talked about crying at the end and having to say good-bye to her father through that song at the end. she really was a star on her own. i think that's why this is so touching and so sad for a lot of people to hear this because she really was her own person. it wasn't just that she was nat king cole's daughter. >> she had some health problems the past few years. congestive heart failure, hepatitis c, years ago there was some bouts with substance abuse. her family did release a statement a short time ago saying in part quote, natalie fought a fierce, courageous battle, dying how she lived with dignity, strength and honor. our beloved mother and sister

will be greatly missed and remain unforgettable in our hearts forever. she had one son, that statement coming from the son and a couple other family members. that is going to do it for this hour of "msnbc live." i'm craig melvin. thank you for joining me over the past two hours. my colleague melissa rehberger continues our coverage in just a moment. dear, why don't we switch to directv?

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gunman involved in this attack. msnbc is also getting new video of the massive door-to-door manhunt currently under way in tel aviv. an eyewitness near the scene of the crime is sharing this video with us. parts of the israeli city are sealed off as police search for the suspect. police are saying it's still unclear if the shooting is a terrorist attack or not. msnbc's cal perry joins us with details. >> at least two people dead, more than eight others wounded. this shooting now more than four hours old. police still don't have anyone in custody that we know about, and those searches are still going on in tel aviv. much of the city is still shut down. it's important to remember this is a friday in israel so the sort of holy day in judaism has taken place from friday sun down to saturday sun down. as we watch this video, one of the things police are trying to unpack is how the gunman got away so quickly. their reason for not giving motive, the implications are going to be massive if this turns out to have been a terrorist attack, the

implications could be massive not just for palestinians living in the west bank and gaza but there is always a concern that something can be isis inspired. it's a concern we have here in the united states and a concern that israeli officials have. there was a reason audio message last week, last saturday, by the head of isis, al baghdadi, he specifically threatened israel. while we at nbc news cannot independently confirm that audio message we know that israeli officials are looking into that as a potential motive. >> it's easy to assume that most families would be inside which could be a good thing, could also be a bad thing. is there concern you have heard that because a gunman may be taking shelter with a family? >> no, we don't think so. the reason for that is israeli police are saying people in tel aviv can go about their normal lives. they are not asking anyone to sort of shelter in place. it's also a rainy, cold day in tel aviv. that is partly why you are seeing empty streets. >> thank you so much, cal perry. joining me now is a journalist who is near the scene right now.

give us some perspective. where are you and what have you been seeing and hearing? >> reporter: so i'm just a few blocks from the bar where this attack occurred, and actually when it happened earlier today, i was out to lunch at a cafe just off of the street where the shooting happened. and immediately after -- first of all, earlier in the day, it was a busy day in tel aviv. as cal said, this is not a workday. fridays are extremely busy on the streets of tel aviv. it's a very popular place to go have a beer on a friday afternoon so the streets were packed. now they are empty. and my friends who live on the street where the manhunt was going on were seeing s.w.a.t. teams and security officials and civilians outfits going door-to-door, searching apartments. now my sources say they have moved outside of tel aviv to

look for gunman. but it's a very quiet night even relatively. friday night in tel aviv is still pretty busy, and even in the cold. people are very scared to go out now because the gunman is on the loose. >> i would imagine. are you familiar with this bar or ones like it? for instance, is it a local watering hole or is it more for tourists? i'm trying to get some sort of idea of who might have been targeted and why. >> reporter: yeah, it's a local hangout. i have been there, popular bar on any given friday. it's filled with people today, actually the people who were shot were celebrating a birthday. it was a birthday party. and one of the men who was killed was the bar manager and yeah, this is a very popular

street for locals and for tourists. >> yardena, thank you very much. >> reporter: thank you. well, people around the world rang in the new year last night. nbc's keir simmons reports on the celebrations and the heightened security. >> reporter: the world celebrated overnight after what was for many, a tough year. new zealand's countdown setting off fireworks around the globe, like a wave of good will. japan releasing white balloons. hong kong's fireworks designed to look like smiley faces. and the skies lit up across the middle east, where 2015 brought little to smile about. the threat of terrorism meant celebrations were canceled in belgium. a shame, many say. >> there's no point in running away from it.

i think they should have gone ahead with it. >> reporter: tourists still piled into brussels city center to enjoy the lights and treats. in munich, german police evacuated and shut down two main train stations after receiving terror threats. berlin tightened security. and partied on. but in paris, still scarred by october's isis massacre, they put on a show of defiance. and in london, the river thames was the stage for a new year's extravaganza. while 2016 began in rio with two million people filling the beach to ring in the new year with laughter and love. >> i love brazil! >> reporter: the spotlight will be on brazil in the year ahead, when it hosts the summer olympics.

last night, the world looked forward with hope, seeing in a truly happy new year. keir simmons, nbc news, london. meanwhile, in dubai, firefighters are still battling flames at a high-rise hotel as fireworks went off just blocks away. investigators are still trying to determine the cause of the fire. we have new images of the interior of that hotel from the dubai media office. you can see the extent of the damage. nbc's chapman bell is in london with more. what do we know at this point? >> reporter: well, what we are hearing is from dubai's civil defense department that they now have cooling procedures still ongoing in this hotel where they were able to bring the flames under control and they also say an investigation is already under way to try to find out what caused this blaze. what they're saying is that it began on the 20th floor of this

65-story skyscraper. it's a luxury hotel and apartments. and as you said, just around the corner from the burj khalifa which is the world's tallest building, and the center point for these fireworks, the massive fireworks display in dubai, and the building caught on fire and as you saw, burning wildly, engulfed in flames just hours before the city was supposed to ring in the new year with their fireworks display. authorities there were comfortable enough that firefighters and other emergency personnel had brought the flames under control enough to continue on with their fireworks display, as they did ringing in the new year, but today, still smoldering and smoking. the emir of dubai tweeting that he's proud of the ambulance service and firefighters and other civil defense workers, the way they handled this. as i said, an investigation is already under way to try to find out what the cause of this blaze was.

but really, almost overshadowing dubai's normally well-known fireworks display, one that is actually a world leader setting the world record when they ring in the year 2014, beating the previous record in just the first minute of the six-minute display so a real sense of pride for them. so they seem to be very pleased that they were able to get this fire contained so quickly and also, only 14 injuries they say minor injuries, and they also say one moderate injury and one person suffered a heart attack, but amazingly, no fatalities in a really built-up area where people were just hours away from watching this fireworks display. so it's really amazing that there were no fatalities as of yet recorded in this massive fire. >> it definitely is. chapman, we are also getting word of an incident in southeastern france at this hour. apparently soldiers are protected a mosque. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that's right.

well, under france's state of emergency over the holidays, they have said that soldiers and police would be protecting houses of worship, churches, mosques, synagogues, and that appears to be what these four soldiers were doing, and a car, the police department there saying they believe targeting the soldiers, not the mosque, drove into these police officers, slightly injuring them. they did fire on this vehicle, emptying their clips, we hear, from their firearms, injuring the driver of the vehicle. he's now in police custody at a hospital and they are waiting to interrogate him. but as of now, they think the soldiers were in fact the target of this driver. >> chapman bell, thank you very much. we want to go back to that fire in dubai and the investigation. let's bring in former new york city fire commissioner, who joins me by phone. thank you very much for being with us. what's your opinion on how firefighters handled all of this? >> well, it looks like they did an outstanding job.

very difficult fire for them because you can't put a fire outside going up 30, 40 stories, out very easily. you know, when you take a line into one particular room or a larger area, you get enough people and you get enough water and you put it out. but to get water up the side of a building in that situation, very, very difficult. and then they were concerned of course, more concerned with people that might be trapped on the inside of the building and you know, worried about that. that is where your real concern would be, not the damage to the building but the possibility that people could be overcome by smoke or trapped. >> the big question right now is obviously what caused this. what do investigators look for and what is a reasonable amount of time that we should expect the investigation to take? >> well, the early reports are that it started with a curtain on the 20th floor which doesn't really make sense, that a curtain on an interior apartment

could cause enough fire or provide enough fuel to create that kind of a situation on the outside of the building. there's also reports of the outside of the structure being clad with an aluminum product that inside of it is plastic and that that's what was providing the fuel for going up the side of the building. that makes sense. and there were reports of horrible fumes outside the whole area which would give you the sense, the feeling or it would be the plastic inside that aluminum. but to provide that much fire to create that much, you know, intensity so fast, that was very quick and it burned a long time so the fuel provided by the side of the building is probably what caused that fire to burn so long and if it got into individual apartments through the glass breaking or melting and the fire got inside and sprinklers put the fire out, everything seemed

to work except for that product, if that's the case on the outside of the building. but to say that it was caused by a curtain doesn't make sense to me. looks like it was more from maybe something on that deck that looks like it was 20 floors up or so, maybe there was other reasons that would have caused it. >> what is your opinion on the fact that they went ahead with their fireworks display? they kind of got beat up on social media and the image of it really was surreal. we just heard nbc's chapman bell explaining that dubai is very proud of its fireworks but what is your opinion on their decision to go ahead with that display while this huge inferno was burning? >> well, they made a tough decision and they got away with it because there were no other incidents and it wasn't a secondary event that was caused by the fireworks. so in that regard, they were fortunate. it's a very big deal to them. they are very proud, they wanted to show that they could handle both situations at the same time. the fire was declared under

control before they started the fireworks. i don't know exactly what they consider under control. it looked to us watching it like there was an awful lot of fire still going on in the individual rooms, but it looks like that hotel or residence, whatever the percentage of rooms is, was pretty vacant. i don't think -- it wasn't a full hotel with celebrants there for the new year's celebration. looks like it was a lot of high end condominiums, things like that that maybe were vacant. so maybe the people running the hotel knew that the load was light inside the hotel, that the search was not going to be as extensive, necessary for the firefighters, so they could handle it and i think when the emergency people, the emergency management people in the area make -- get all the information, more information than we had watching it, they made a decision and fortunately, it was the right decision for them last night because there were no other incidents.

they did a good job. i think they were fortunate that so many people were there for the fireworks display that helped them move the people who were running away from the danger at the fire, that the debris coming off that building was going one direction, they were pushing people in the other direction so all in all, it worked out for them with a very, very small amount of injuries if those numbers are accurate today. >> thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. coming up, towns south of st. louis are bracing for mississippi river flooding.

welcome back. in the midwest, deadly floods are still threatening thousands of residents, at least 22 people have died in missouri and illinois this week after torrential rains and hundreds of homes have been damaged.

the mississippi river crested overnight in the st. louis area and flood waters are rising as the water moves downstream. towns south of st. louis are most affected. msnbc's charles hadlock is there with the very latest on this developing situation. >> reporter: well, the st. louis area is seeing the worst of the flooding pass them by now. this is the mississippi river as it passes st. louis. the water here got up to 42 1/2 feet. it crested today. that's 12 1/2 feet above flood stage but still 7 1/2 feet below what it was in the record of 1993. farther downstream the water is surging. the water is rising and will crest about two feet short of the record in 1993. but in cape gerardo, the river will crest there at 50 feet. the flood stage is 32 feet. that would be 1.5 feet above what it was in 1993. there is some minor flooding going on in the bootheel of

missouri but they say the flood wall protection systems will protect most property in that part of the state. just to the southeast of st. louis is the town of arnold. it is still struggling to recover from the flood of the meramec river which rose up to 44 feet, that flood stage is 28 feet. that river rose four feet above what it has ever been recorded to be. so the flood waters there are also receding but it's going to be a long time to clean up the mess of these two river floods. the good news is that interstates 44 and 55 have reopened in both directions so holiday travelers won't have to worry about having to find detours around the st. louis area this holiday weekend. back to you. >> thanks, nbc's charles hadlock in st. louis, missouri. president obama looks ahead to the new year and is taking action on gun control. we will bring you the latest on that and a preview of his final state of the union address. it takes a lot of work... to run this business.

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it is the final full year of president obama's term in office and he is signaling that gun control reform is a major item left on his to-do list. the president used his weekly address this morning to explain we can no longer quote, afford to sit around and do nothing. >> tens of thousands of our fellow americans have been mowed down by gun violence. tens of thousands. each time we are told that common sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre or the one before that so we shouldn't do anything. we know we can't stop every act of violence. but what if we tried to stop even one? >> nbc's ron allen is with the president in hawaii and here on set is philip bump of the "washington post." thank you both for being here. ron, what is the president's plan? i understand he's going to meet with attorney general loretta lynch on monday, correct?

>> reporter: exactly. but this is something that's been in the works for many weeks, if not months. the president is trying to figure out a way to use his executive authority to try and bring about what he calls common sense gun laws. gun safety laws. you know the congress has been adamant about not doing anything in this area and is still adamant about not doing anything in this area and the president doesn't have the votes to change that so he's trying to use his own, the powers of his own office to try and do something. and the focus seems to be on this issue of background checks. a lot of guns are sold at gun shows and online by low volume gun dealers, you would call them, and they are not subjected, they do not subject the buyers to background checks. that's one area the president we think is going to focus on. another area is this what we have been hearing about since paris and san bernardino, the so-called no-fly, no buy list. these are people who are on a terrorist watch list or no-fly list, they are not allowed to board an airplane but are still

allowed to purchase guns. so that's another loophole the president is trying to target, we believe. the bottom line is that the president has said on many occasions that this is the most frustrating, the most disappointing aspect of his administration, his inability to pass what he calls common sense gun safety laws to do something about these mass shootings that happen in the united states on a regular basis. he meets with these families, he gets letters every day from grieving families and when you hear him talk about this, you can see it has emotionally affected him. and he really wants to do something about it. so that's his goal, one of his big goals during the final year in office. >> what about congress? given all the mass shootings we have had, even just in 2015, there have been way too many as we look back on that. do you see congress taking action as well? >> no. congress tried to pass in the wake of the sandy hook shooting in 2012, congress moved forward on some issues including the background check legislation that was just mentioned.

it didn't get out of the senate. four democrats and harry reid for procedural reasons voted against that measure. congress will not pass new legislation. you hear the president talk about how the vast majority of americans support expanding background checks but the majority of americans also oppose new gun control measures. it will be very easy for opponents of what the president is trying to do to spin this as something which americans say they don't want. >> the president will give his final state of the union address on january 12th. we are told to expect an unconventional speech. what does that mean? >> reporter: it means that it won't be a laundry list of things he wants congress to do. i think one of the themes of this presidency has been that congress isn't going to do anything so i'm going to do what i can using my own, the authority of my office. i think the president's going to talk about accomplishments he's had over the past years and what he still wants to do. there are issues like gun legislation, gun control that are going to be prominent. he will talk about the trade

bill that is pending before congress, the trans-pacific partnership agreement with about a dozen asian nations that's a sweeping trade agreement that he wants the congress to pass. he's going to talk about the opening up to cuba, the iran nuclear deal, guantanamo bay is something else that's out there. he's said he wants to close that prison and there are still about 100 or so detainees there. what's he going to do about that. he will talk about keeping the economy strong and creating more opportunities for the middle class which has been a theme of his presidency. i think the state of the union is going to be, if you will, part victory lap, part unfinished business, but as he said this year-end press conference he will quote, leave it all on the field going out during the final year of his office. he's going to be very engaged and of course, another big goal is to get a democrat elected to follow him into the white house. he intends to be out there on the campaign trail. i think we will hear a lot about what the president wants to do and a lot of that is going to be what he's going to try to do, how he will use the bully pulpit

of the presidency going forward, because again, he doesn't expect congress to do much so he's going to do what he can on his own, i think. >> ron, thank you. philip, on the subject of election year and the president's final term in office, how do you see him going forward? do you think he will slow down his agenda to make room for the democratic nominee and focus on that, or do you see him going full steam ahead with his own agenda? >> i have to anticipate seeing what he did in 2015 which is very much full steam ahead, he's pledged that his state of the union will be somewhat different. i think he will target this politic politic political chasm between the white house and capitol hill. i think he will focus on that the next year. i don't see president obama as someone who will spend the next year doing what he can to with hold his own agenda on behalf of the democratic party. i think he will push hard particularly if it's a close race and it's not guaranteed the next president will be a democrat. i think that will provide more incentive to him to do what he can. i think we are already seeing

right now that president obama is saying to heck with congress, i'm going to do what i need to do and what i think is right. i think that will be the theme for the next 12 months. >> okay. thank you both. new laws took effect across the country at the stroke of midnight last night, including a controversial new gun law in texas that will make it legal to openly carry hand guns in public. nbc's jacob rascone reports in texas. >> reporter: at the eagle gun range in texas, business is booming. training for new gun permits up 300% recently, with a new privilege. >> you have a chance to draw faster and be able to defend faster. >> reporter: nearly one million texans already have a concealed hand gun permit. under the new law, no additional paperwork, training or fee is required for them. a concealed carry permit now doubles as an open carry permit. >> it brings us in line with just about every other state.

>> reporter: representative larry phillips authored the new law. >> they've got to be over 21. they also have to have a clean criminal and mental health record. >> reporter: many texans say it's about time. while others, including nearly 75% of texas police chiefs, strongly disagree, according to a new survey. some businesses are also choosing to ban open carry. sign maker shops scrambling to keep up with the demand, warnings to open carriers, keep out. many also oppose another new texas gun law nicknamed campus carry, allowing concealed hand guns on university campuses. taking effect next august. >> do we want it to be a culture where we think the way to solve things is with a gun? >> reporter: safety is the target, many texans will tell you. texans for the new gun laws and against them. nbc news, lewisville, texas. coming up next, remembering music legend natalie cole, who

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♪ unforgettable that's what you are ♪ ♪ unforgettable though near or far ♪ >> music lovers today are mourning the loss of natalie cole, the grammy award winning singer died last night due to complications from ongoing health issues. she won several grammys for that virtual duet she performed with her late father. he died when she was a young teenager. natalie earned worldwide success on her own. her family today released a statement saying quote, natalie fought a fierce, courageous battle, dying how she lived with dignity, strength and honor. the recording academy added

quote, we have lost a wonderful highly cherished artist and our heartfelt condolences go out to natalie's family, friends, her many collaborators as well as to all who have been entertained by her exceptional talent. i'm joined on set by reverend al sharpton. first of all, my condolences. i understand you were friends with her. >> i did get to know her, not as well as some of the others. i was very close with james brown. he's like a father to me so i would run into a lot and michael jackson and i worked together. i think what was striking to me about her, i remember one night we were in california talking and her father was this historic figure, nat king cole, and you always assumed that when someone who was that big and their child started singing they would get breaks because of them. she made it on her own talent. she had a phenomenal voice, a phenomenal style and i think that night she was saying to me that she always felt the pressure of wanting to prove

that she was able to ascend to where she did not because she was nat king cole's daughter but because of her own talent, which put added pressure on her. and it was the reverse of a lot of people, because they have a sense of entitlement. she didn't have a sense of entitlement. she had a sense of challenge and always respected that about her. i felt that she tried to perfect her art. she was very, very good. >> i understand that a lot of people probably were not as aware of her career before that famous duet that she did with her late father. i know that's how i was mostly introduced to her talent and i thought it was the most beautiful thing i had ever heard. i remember it very clearly. was that done as a way maybe to feel closer to him? >> i think that i'm guessing that it probably was. i think it was her embracing the legacy of her father. i think she had come to terms with what i said, the one long conversation i had with her in california that she was now comfortable she had made it on

her own and could do that. and i think it was something that went huge for her across all genres but she was already in the '70s and in the '80s had done hits and won grammys. i used to tease her with some of the hits she did in the '70s because i was just slightly younger than her, i used to tease her and say you know, all of us grew up saying you were singing to us so she was well-established in certain fields of music, but i think that video that she did with her father, i think really brought her to a whole other level and a new introduction to the world music market. >> she had actually done a duet live with her father when she was a little girl, 6, i believe. starting out at such an early age, was it always her intention to be a performer? >> my understanding is she grew up wanting to perform, grew up feeling that that was a calling and she had the gifts. if you heard her sing, you know no one was doing her a favor.

no one cut her a break. she could really sing. and it also again put that pressure on her that she wanted to live up to the expectation. she didn't feel that she could just sit back and rest on her laurels because she was nat king cole. she made natalie cole a star in her own right. she deserves that credit. >> given all of her incredible talent and her personal struggles, woven all together, how will she be remembered? >> i think she will be remembered as a velvet voice at a time that many people were looking for someone that could sing in her era and she did that. she did it majestically. yes, she had challenges, yes, she had issues, but she sang above her issues and gave all of us a lot of good music. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you very much. we'll be right back. santa has a magic snow globe for every family. and this year, look at what he put in our driveway.

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new developments in the race for the white house. we are getting new fund-raising figures from the hillary clinton campaign this hour indicating the democratic front-runner has raised $55 million in the fourth quarter, $37 million for her own campaign and another $18 million for national and state democratic parties. joining me from washington, d.c., bob frankin, syndicated political columnist and anne gearan, political reporter for the "the washington post." anne, $55 million in the fourth quarter for clinton. can you put those numbers into context for us? >> sure. this is a big number. $18 million of it is for use in the general election for her, for other democrats. this is the first time since announcing for president in april that she has been raising money for the general election. her campaign has tried to make the point that they do have a primary fight on their hands and they wanted to raise money initially and specifically for

the primary. they obviously sort of let their belt out a notch or two here in the final quarter, felt that they had the leeway to go ahead and start raising money for the general election and did so. $37 million in primary money is a lot for one quarter. it helps her set a record for having raised the most of any non-incumbent in a non-election year. couple of caveats there but it's an important benchmark. basically means she did as a non-incumbent what president obama did as an incumbent. >> we have a new batch of hillary clinton's e-mails yesterday, including one that mentioned that viral image of secretary clinton checking her blackberry on a plane. what does the e-mail exchange tell us? >> well, the e-mail exchange tells us that there's a little bit of a sense of humor that goes into some of these e-mails. once that viral image got out there, of course, one of the people who was responding to her told her that she looked cute. well, this is going to be the

next president of the united states and so now we know that at least one of the people who works with her thinks she can look cute. >> there is also this one, an elaborate flow chart of who could ride in the secretary's limo with her. what are your thoughts on that? >> okay. this is my absolute favorite one. it's hilarious. the guy who wrote it is a long-time washington figure. he is famous for having a mercurial temper but also for being fabulously funny. it's only partly in jest. it is a very specific flow chart of when certain conditions apply, who gets to ride in the limousine with the boss. he put himself at the very bottom of the flow chart and basically if there's room for him, he could ride in it. but he says if she is already presumptively in the car, should he stay? yes, he votes for himself that he should be able to stay. >> one other thing that i would

point out is that one of the standards for whether you got to ride in the limousine was whether you were boring or not. >> right. when traveling on foreign trips, if the ambassador for that particular country was tolerable, then the ambassador got to ride with her. >> i also want to ask you on a different subject about ben carson. we know now that five staffers with ben carson's struggling presidential campaign have resigned, including his campaign manager and communications director. in a statement, dr. carson said, and i'm quoting here, as we enter a new phase of the campaign cycle, it is necessary to invigorate my campaign with a strategy that more aggressively shares my vision and world view with the american people. bob, is this a standard campaign shakeup, or is this something different? >> well, this is a little bit different. we are talking about entering a new phase, to use his words, 30 days before the first major, major campaign event, one in which he's going to have to

perform well because his constituency is there, his base is there, the evangelicals who have provided so much of his support, and now he's totally shaken things up. he's putting in somebody to be perfectly honest, a retired general, who is not at all tested. so this is going to be, speaking of tests, this is going to be a big one to see if he can quickly gain traction. >> bill clinton is back on the campaign trail for his wife on monday. it is a solo event. will this work for her? >> in the main, yes. he's already been out there raising a lot of money for her. he is a proven winner with democratic audiences. he draws big crowds, he brings in a lot of money. now they're trying to turn that to open election events. in the past he's been a big draw for those as well. there is an obvious down side. he is known to sometimes say things that at least in the last campaign weren't totally part of the script. they are certainly hoping that that doesn't happen again.

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humanitarian assistance could be in the tens of millions. back here at home, despite the devastating storms across the season, nasa is forecasting the worst is yet to come. they say el knee know causing, quote, weather chaos. to discuss this, michael mann, professor at penn state university and author of "dire predictions: understanding climate change." michael, how do you think the extremes of the storms this last month changes public opinion possibly on climate change? >> well, you know, we are see unprecedented weather around the u.s. and the world and part of it is due to el nino and the strongest we have ever seen in what just finished up as the warmest year we have ever seen, that is due to climate change. climate change is playing a role here and no longer playing a subtle role. we are seeing the impacts of climate change in increasingly more devastating weather events, the flooding we have seen, the

extreme warmth in other areas and flooding in the uk. we are seeing the impacts of climate change now with our two -- with our two eyes. >> what do you make of the climate change agreement? president obama called it the most ambitious in history but critics say the enforcement mechanisms are weak. >> yeah, well, you know, you have to sort of crawl before you can walk. i think it was an important foot in the door. it put in place a framework for bringing down our carbon emissions that we can build on in the years ahead and get to where we need to be. so, that agreement alone isn't going to cut global carbon emissions enough to avoid dangerous warming of the globe but it gets us about halfway where we would otherwise be headed to where we need to be and that's something we can build on. puts in place a framework to build on in the years ahead. i'm cautious by optimistic it signals the beginning of a

comprehensive effort to tackle the problem of climate change. >> do you agroo with the people saying this could be the worst el nino we have ever had? >> yeah. in fact, if you just look at the raw numbers, the temperatures of the ocean in the eastern tropical pacific right now are the highest they have ever been. they warm up during an el nino event but right now they have warmed up more than they have ever warmed up before and this is by that pressure the biggest el nino on record and global warming is part of it. the fact that the world oceans are warmer than they have ever been is part of why we are seeing such warmth in that region of the oceans and we know that when that region, the eastern tropical pacific, gets warm enough, it impacts global weather patterns around the world and what we're seeing to some extent is effect of el nino but it's been super charged by climate change. >> your book is "dire

predictions." take us through everything the public cannot see that makes it the climate change makes a huge difference in. >> yeah, well, what we can't see, i me, the impacts of climate change are the tip of the iceberg which is to say that once the effects of climate change become this apparent, become this visible to us, it means there's a whole lot of climate change now that's baked in that we haven't even seen yet. a whole lot of climate change impacts that are going to get worse. as the global continues to warm. some amount. just in response to the greenhouse gases we have already pumped into the atmosphere. so, you know, think of the climate system, think of the global climate as an ocean tanker. you slam on the brakes, you don't come to a stop immediately. it's going to take some time to come to a stop and that's why we have to bring our emissions down so dramatically in the years

ahead because we don't want to bake in even more dangerous climate changes. >> it was very strange christmas here in new york city where we are based and people wearing flip flops and usually wearing snow boots so what other kind of weird weather patterns can we be expecting in the months ahead? >> well, we can expect to see unusual warmth over a large part of the u.s. the northern half of the u.s. is typically warmer during an el nino year and when's unusual right now is seeing warming in places that don't usually see extra warmth from el nino. the southeastern u.s. is unusually warm and very warm air in the south mixing with the colder air masses from the north is giving us this unusual tornado activity and part of that warmth and part of the energy in the atmosphere that's giving us all this extreme weather is due to the effect of climate change, putting more moisture in the atmosphere, more energy in the atmosphere to generate the sorts of storms we

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