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>> announcer: due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ a recent law brings a wave of prison felons to the county jail. >> we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, we're seeing greater propensity for assault on officers and staff. which we didn't see before. >> a family man gets a decade in jail for manufacturing weapons. >> it's all home grown guns. you can legally make one for yourself, but you just can't
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sell them. that's where i went wrong. >> a meth addict gives up her prized possession. >> i traded it for $20 and a cheap high. >> but, now, jail introduces both of these men to a cowboy -- >> everybody deserves an opportunity to have that second chance. >> some wild horses. >> watch yourself. >> and the opportunity of a lifetime. these horses show you you are a person. if you don't like what you see, you've got to start making some changes. ♪ >> sunrise near sacramento brings the pounding hooves of
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nearly two dozen mustangs running wild and free across vast stretches of western plains. they are sights and sound rarely experienced in a county jail. the horses share something in common with the 2,000 men and women. each one of them is here against their will with a possibility for a new beginning and, possibly, a better life. one of two jails run by the sacramento county sheriff's office.
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unlike most jails where the majority of inmates are only accused of crimes and awaiting trial, about 65% of the inmates are convicted and serving sentences. that's due, in part, to a 2011 law known as ab-109. it was created to help relieve the california's state prison systems once dangerously over-crowded conditions. now, thousands of inmates who normally would have gone to prison are diverted to county jails. the law has drastically changed the make-up of the inmate population with more convicts serving hard time as opposed to shorter term, not-convicted inmates still awaiting trial. >> it has brought some very unique challenges to us. number one, now our jail is like state prisons. before county jails, people
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would do 3-6 months in county jail. now, we have folks here for 17 years. we're seeing state prison activities. we're seeing folks running their criminal enterprises, at least trying to, from inside our facilities. we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, a greater propensity for assault on officers and staff. we didn't see that before. our officers are trained to be custodians for short-term inmates. so it is really creating a paradigm shift for local jail facilities. >> while ab-109 is controversial among staff and inmates alike, one of its provisions has proven popular. it provides funding for several new rehabilitation programs that could give inmates a chance to find jobs on the outside, despite the stigma of serving time. that's why the horses are here. >> get that thing off. let's go. >> this is the ranch that was developed by the sacramento county sheriff's department. and they're land management. what we do out here is we take inmates and i train them how to train wild horses to become
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usable by the general public. >> the bureau of land management rounds up horses throughout the western united states. when their population becomes unsustainable. they are brought to various training facilities to eventually to be adopted. most of these facilities are civilian-run. rio consumez is the first ranked from a county jail. joel mizer runs the program. >> i've been training horses for 35 plus years. i've been working with inmates for about six months now. i never worked with inmates before. >> i think this is a huge opportunity for guys that don't have the money or think that they're really worth anything or have anything to offer. if they can help these horses become domesticated and usable,
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they're going to know what it feels like to accomplish something. >> there you go. >> see why you'd want to carry that pad like that? these inmates, some of them never been around a horse, never rode a horse. >> we teach them horsemanship from the ground up. this program is a win-win. not only for the wild horses, but also for these gentlemen to learn a skill set that not everybody has. >> gnash dig had never been around horses until he joined in just a few days earlier. just like jobs on outside rookies start at the bottom. >> we're picking up road apples and/or horse manure. this is how you start in the program. you know. i don't know how much they
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appreciate it or not, but i'm sure they do. they don't want to walk and in their own [expletive] all day. you know? [ laughter ] >> i was slightly uncomfortable, at first. i was watching them all the time to make sure they weren't sneaking up on me or anything like that. >> dake will serve his two-year sentence for auto theft and forgery at rio cosumnes instead of prison. his prior convictions include burglaries, forgery and theft from an elder. he says all of it was fuelled by a methamphetamine addiction. >> i was stealing. and any money that i could pull in, i was bailing drugs, whether it was from jewelry, whatever the heck i could get my hands onto sell. food didn't really matter at that point. you're just, like, i need to take care of my addictions first. that's how you know it's really got a hold of you. it's got its hand on you like
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this and saying it's going to make you do whatever you can to get that money because i need to feel high. i need to feel that effect. i'm not ready to leave jail. i'm not ready for home detention. i'm not ready to leave this facility right now at all. i would get right back into it and not care. >> now, instead of being strung out on the streets, he's up at dawn to work on the ranch. alongside his bunkmate, robert carey. >> i grew up on a horse farm, so i have some understanding making sure you're not around the back end and stuff like that. just awareness comes with just being around them. >> there's a good way and a bad way. with wild horses, as opposed to domestic. the chances of being kicked are
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higher, for sure. >> like nashe dake is also an ab-109 inmate. he's here for selling high-capacity magazines and rifles. carey has been in the 5-month-old horse program since inception. and plays a sort of big brother role to dake. >> everybody's instructing everybody as they go along. if i've got a guy that's going to be with me for a long time, i can mold him and then i can pass that onto, okay, you want to take these guys and show them the basics that you've already learned and then i can move on to the other guys and show them a little more advanced. >> the other thing that joe has taught us, i've been trying to get the new guys to follow through. nashe is getting used to being around the horses. never really done this at all. >> they learned how to work together to get the jobs done and also follow rules and instructions. that's probably why they're here. they said i'm not going to follow the rules. i'm going to do it my way. and now they're learning through going through the experiences, the rewards of following along like they're supposed to.
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everybody deserves an opportunity to have that second chance. working with these mustangs, they teach you how to respected their space. they teach you that they need leadership. that's what i hope that these guys receive. that they have to have leadership skills and qualities to be successful in training horses. they can take those leadership skills and just be a better person in the world. >> i look forward to whatever lesson is going to be today. i learned some kind of lesson out here, whether it's lesson of nature or lesson of life. something. there's always something to pull out of this. it's definitely an experience of a lifetime. >> coming up -- >> nice and slow. >> the inmates are presented with a major challenge.
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>> as the capital of california, sacramento is the world's eighth largest economy. while decisions made here could have global impact, nestled among its downtown skyscrapers and government buildings is a reminder of local concerns. the main branch houses about 2,000 men and women. like traditional jails, most of them are only charged with crimes and awaiting resolution for trials and cases. like other county jails in california, sacramento's main jail is also affected by ab-109. a law that diverts convicts from state prisons to county jails.
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so people that are brand new, you've got to persevere. someone driving could be felled up with a guy who's been in prison for the past 20 years. you teach them how to get around the system, how to create weapons. how to be a criminal opposed to natural rehabilitation process. >> ab-109 has also come with a significant funding decrease. one of the more unique programs occurs 30 miles south of the downtown facility, county sprawling branch jail. the rio cosumnes correctional center. >> you water those mares there? ab-10 inmate has been in the horse program since it was implemented five months earlier. its goal is to make wild horses suitable for adoption. >> we leave in the morning and we get back at night. by the end of the day, it's a long day, but it makes the day really fast. >> and that's important. carey is only one year into his sentence for manufacturing and selling firearms and high-capacity magazines without a license. carey said he learned how to make guns from his father who
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did so legally on their pennsylvania farm. >> it was just part of our every day life. we'd go to the range and spend the whole day at the rifle range and stuff. that's what i did as a kid behind him. even when i didn't know how to shoot, i would be out on the range picking up buckets of brass so i could reload it and stuff. i think the smell of gun powder got me on or something. >> carey said he had been manufacturing his own hunting guns for years. >> they're called home grown guns and you can legally make one for yourself. you just can't sell them. that's where i went wrong. >> carey said he became financially stressed when he and his pregnant wife separated, with three children to support. he says a friend put him in touch with somebody willing to buy his guns. >> i was looking for a way out to feed my kids and to survive. >> you did know that was illegal, right? >> yeah, i knew it. my back was against the wall. i figured i would do it to until i could get back on my feet again. but i said i'll do it. so i met with him. and he's, like, well, now i want another one to go with it so i
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have a different caliber. i said okay, and built him another one not knowing that he was an atf agent. and that's where et all went bad for me. for the final transaction, he met the man in the parking lot of a department store. >> i didn't get two feet from my vehicle and the next thing i knew, they were all surrounding me with 30 guns. it was a different day, that's for sure. >> weren't you afraid. that the person were you selling guns to, was going to commit a crime? >> to be honest with you, until i got arrested, the thought never crossed my mind. he said he was into going to the range and liked to target practice a lot. i screwed up.
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>> carey, dump it out and bring it over and put it in that pen right there, okay? >> carey says working at the horse ranch has helped make his 12-year sentence more bearable. today, joe misner who runs the program on a special project.
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training a new group of horses on an accelerated timetable so they woil be ready for an upcoming adoption event. >> they're bringing four fillies here. they're going to drive it in with a trailer and back it up. 30 days is pretty fast, but a younger horse, they adapt fairly quickly. i and the bureau of land management thought it would be easy for them to gentle yearlings. they're smaller, a little easier to handle. >> yeah, i can grab another panel. >> i'm looking forward to it exciting, i think it's awesome. we take them and give them a
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second chance. kind of like us. we're getting a second chance they are, too. a lot of similarities, we got the wild side we're working on and we're working on that, with them the same thing. >> i'm excited because it really gives these guys an opportunity to be confident. you can imagine if they're going to take on a filly that's about 3 1/2 feet tall compared to a thousand pound, four-year-old wild horse that's never been touched. it's pretty intimidating. not that these guys couldn't stand to be intimidated a little bit. but trust me, those yearlings can kick and bite and pretty much ruin your day if they decide to, also. they'll find that out. nice and slow. >> to reduce the horse's anxiety, mizner has decided to keep it at a distance. >> we try to keep it as low-key
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as possible. everybody's new, go slow, stay back, keep it calm. >> there's all kinds of new stimuli. >> well, they came in pretty smooth, but they're a lot bigger than i thought what we would call a long yearling. they're closer to two years old than they are a year. i think it's going to be more challenging. these fillies are larger, a little bit wiser. and they're not going to convert real quickly.
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it's going to be challenging, but i think we're up to it. >> mr. joe said it a few times out here, there's going to be life-changing experiences. you're going to hear that and determine who you are as a person. and these horses show you who you are as a person. if you don't like what you see, you've got to start making some changes. >> coming up, these horses are really scared and they just don't understand. >> the inmates meet the fillies. and a nearby gun range adds to the challenge. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted.
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sacramento county's two jails, which, combined, has over 4,000 men and women. are worlds apart. located in the center of downtown, the main jail consists of concrete towers and small cells for inmates who are confined much of the day. the correctional center considered the county's branch jail is in the heart of california's central valley
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farming valley. once a world war two training base for army pilots, it's a collection of barracks, housing units that look and feel more like a prison than a jail. deputy woods has worked at both locations. >> at the main jail it's more cells and more floors. and everyone's confined, everyone's agitated, everyone is so upset. kind of like a dark and cold place. here, when you're here, it's outside, it's more fresh air. >> rio cosumnes also houses the majority of the jail's ab-109 sentences. one of the benefits is that most are now closer to home. so they might get more business. >> i'm going to be honest, the word prison kind of scares me, so i've never been. but ab-109 is cool because my family is closer, so it's kind of not like the hey, i'm in prison, kind of feel. but not all are happy with the
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law. one common reason is that prison is structured for more long time stays. >> i would much rather be in prison. i've actually gone through the court process to try to get my sentence switched. simple fact that there's conjugal visits. there's contact visits. >> and since carey mcconnell who is now serving ten years of possession of a controlled substance for sale, not being able to touch loved ones has an impact. >> it's my fault. i had 12 years clean and sober. i relapsed. it's just a very, very difficult thing for me. >> mcconnell benefits, however, from the job programs. that are part of the ab-109 legislation. he works in the print shop which
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contains state of the art equipment along with professional instruction. >> so, before you mask it, what you want to do is just pull that off. >> but there's another downside. as a non-violent inmate, he could be eligible for release after just serving one-third of his sentence if he were in state prison. as a sacramento county inmate, he must serve at least half his sentence, that's because in california individual counties can regulate their own individual release policies. they're not the same as the state's prison system. >> i'm doing five years out here as opposed to i would be doing three years in prison and i have a family and two young kids that, like i said, i take responsibility for the mistakes that i made. but they're out there waiting for me. >> i'd say the majority of individuals i've talked to would
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much ratheren in prison. people have their own personal television. there's efforts being made to give people things to do throughout the day. prisons have been doing this for much longer time than the county jail. >> one small privilege at rio cosumnes is the ability to check out a musical instrument. nashe dake said he's been playing music since he was 7 years old. >> it has nylon strings on it. it's a pretty decent guitar. it has pretty good intonation on it. >> what they do, they check out the guitar and inspect all the strings, all the -- the good use. and then when they return it, we inspect it again. >> it's a bent sorry card. for a guitar pick. >> it's real good stuff he's got going on. you know, we even brought food spoon over there and tried that
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out, too. he can make anything happen there. he's really talented. >> he's been sentenced to two years as an ab-109 inmate for auto theft and forgery. >> what's kind of brought me back is the dope, you know, the meth. i know what happens. you know, i know whatnot to do and i know, you know, i basically know it gets me into trouble. it's hard out there. i realize i was at my lowest low when i traded a guitar to a pawnshop for money and turned around and bought drugs with that money. my mom bought me that guitar when i was a senior in high school. and she bought this guitar for me for $180. i traded it for $20 and a cheap high.
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it broke my heart, honestly. when i couldn't pay to get that guitar back, i freaked out. that made me want to use more drugs to forget that i did that. >> dake says he hose that ab-109 will help him do better in life. he's taking advantage of other parts of the law, as well. >> there's all kinds of reentry services, all kinds of stuff to get you back into society. in a correct and positive way. and that's what i'm looking to do. ironically, i asked god to save my life. and then i ended up stealing a car and coming out here. and my life has changed. that's cool. >> coming up. >> i want her to trust me. cowboy shows the inmates how it's done. >> she's a little bit afraid. try not to look at her so much. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three quarters of what it takes to replace it.
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>> this is the sheriff's department range. this is where we come to qualify twice a year with our firearm. we have three ranges here. you can hear there's a lot of firing going on in the range next to it. >> deputies assigned to the jail never carry guns. many of them will eventually rotate to street patrol. >> you hear gunfire all day every day. we have inter-department training going on day and night. >> we're located right next to the branch jail. all three are in very close proximity. you can hear guns going off all day long. you'd heard the shots. >> you'd be amazed at how quickly these horses adapt to that gunfire.
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something has to adapt if it's going to survive in the wild. if it's not eating them and it didn't eat them the last time it heard the bang, what's the point of getting me all worried. i'm going to save my energy and run when i have to. >> lately, his energy has been dedicated to fulfilling a request for an upcoming adoption he event. >> the challenge when they got here, we weren't prepared, we thought they were going to be smaller. our fences weren't tall enough. we had to put up sight boards that they wouldn't jump out of the corrals. we had to bring our a game to the program. >> now mizner, has spent a few days of one-on-one time with the fillies. and is ready to introduce them to his team of inmate trainees. >> the inmates are going to be working with the two-year-old fillies to learn how to interact. ultimately the goal today is to get these fillies responding to the guys on the ground. these guys will be learning how
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to breathe, relax, get out of the way real quick. things like that are going to be going on. we'll be able to make progress so that we can get them adopted to the general public. and you'll see when we start working with these 2-year-olds, that these horses are really flighty and scared, because they just don't understand. >> okay, guys, gather around. see that right there? that's good. >> mizner shows the inmates how to use a long piece of pvc pipe to build trust. >> it's a way to desensitize these animals and keep them safe. we can touch them from six, seven feet away and not get kicked or run over. >> i'll just take it down. i'm reading her body language seeing what she's trying to
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react. >> she faces away, i put pressure on them. >> let go. don't try to hold onto it, okay? just let go. that's what's going to happen. they're going to get a little wild, a little western here. >> i just keep going to have touch her or work my way up to where she'll reach out and touch my hand. i'm drawing this one and this hand is coming forward. i want her to touch my hand. i just want her to know i'm okay. we just want her to connect. she's a little bit afraid. i want her to reach out and touch my finger. >> so i'm just going to spend time with her like this. this is the main thing, just showing her that by being next to her, it's okay. and here, in a couple days, we'll be brushing her and leading her around and petting on her. >> some of the things that i thought i knew, growing up with domestic horses, is totally different from what for example for looking at the horse's eyes,
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i always just look at them and walk up to them. and we know now that the wild horses think that i'm a predator. i know not to look at them. no eye contact. >> there you go. relax. news guys are touching live horses for the first time today. and they're doing a great job. >> it's okay. >> you could offer your hand up to her. it's okay, it's all right. just stand your ground a little bit. >> i wasn't sure how she was going to react. it was really cool. i'm going to move forward and do some more work with her. >> there you go. just relax. >> nashe dake is still at the observer's stage. >> i'm not that worried about getting a new horse. it was pretty exciting to see that i'm going to be part of
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that. >> they're learning how to be leaders right here. they're learning how to often theirselves up and to give something back to something. and the reward is the way that horse responds to them. i don't think they've ever had that in their life. i think for these guys learning how to read the situation is key to their life. and i hope that they'll carry these lessons on when they leave here. >> coming up -- >> watch yourself. you're getting in a bad position there. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of the new techniques. >> carey is not a young guy, he's in his 40s already. a little set in his ways. >> robert carey and nashe dake both confront some difficult issues. >> there have been times when i've questioned whether or not this program was right for me. dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday.
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this is not a place to be children, you do not want to be here. >> nobody ever asks for long-term stay at the rio cosumnes correctional center. it's one of two large jail facilities run by the sacramento sheriff's office. but robert carey and nashe dake have made the most out of it. >> this was our table, it doubles as a table for us. >> we seem to kill a lot of time playing cards, lately. >> carey is serving time for illegally manufacturing and selling firearms. he said he did so during a financially stressful time. he now wishes he had just reached out for help instead. >> i know now that it's wrong. >> a man has pride, you know. we don't ask for help.
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we don't ask for directions. >> if the trainee and the wild horse program. carey knows that not asking for help could lead to big problems for both him and la nina, the recently arrived filly he's been working with. and when it comes to horses, there are few better people to ask than joe mizner. >> we need people that are teachable. willing to learn, and he's got a little bit of time left on his sentence. so i've told him, i want him here as long as he possibly can. >> with another three years before he's eligible for parole, carey has a chance to become one of miz ner's most experienced trainers. his goal today, is to try to get a lead rope on la nina.
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>> give her a second here. she's not so sure about being caught yet this morning. >> carey is the kind of guy who will stay on a job all day. he tries to think ahead and come up with problem-solving situations. that's a good thing to some point. but you also have to be able to take instruction and not go beyond that instruction. >> relax. just hesitate there for a few minutes. go back to that same position and hesitate. watch you'reself. you're getting in a bad position there. hang on, you may not believe it but you have some emotion coming out of you. now, don't go for the nose, go to the withers. stay to your right a little bit. there you go, touch the shoulder, now walk away, walk away. see how she's drawn to you. i know you want to catch her. she knows you want to catch her. but don't go to catch her, okay? >> he's kind of used to just kind of doing his own thing. carey is not a young guy. he's a little set in his ways. so him coming in and having to take direction and stay on task
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and not think passed what was being asked, he's had to work at it. and he has. he's really come to the plate and he says things like i thought i should check with you before i did this. and that's exactly what i want to hear. now reach just slightly under petting her neck and grab your halter rope. there you go. there you go. good. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of the new techniques that mr. joel stepped in and hey this is a little easier way of doing it. it's like wow, why didn't i try that. it's just amazing, his ability. >> act like you don't even have to guide her now. >> nashe dake is still in the early stages of the program. he said he was nervous around horses when he first came to the ranch. >> these other guys are a little bit more progressed. so at what point will i be really involved with the situation. besides picking up manure.
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but that kind of depends on them. and i think he's realizing that. >> be patient with her, be patient with yourself, you're fine. >> there have been times when i questioned whether this program was right for me. but i was afraid of the horses, honestly. big animal, has a lot of power. then i realized you have to take their fear and their sensitivity and use it as a tool to work with them. and you can't be scared. >> dake has been gain ing experience by working with some of the domesticated horses. >> you learn a lot about yourself. the animal ends up being a reflection of who you are. if you're not confident, calm, caring, passionate about what you're doing, horses are going to know that. it's changed my attitude toward life. it's like when i leave here, i want to get a job. i want to start working. i want to be productive. i want to be an active member of society. i don't want to sit there and
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waste my life. with methamphetamine. there's no point in that. it's ruined a lot of things. i'm making the necessary changes in order to be somebody. >> everybody needs to know that they're worth something. and just because you've made mistakes doesn't mean you can't change. and a lot of times when you're in a situation that your life is spiraling out of control, you think this is never going to change. this is the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. and you don't know that till the heat gets turned up and you have to either change or stay. but these animals, they touch you. and i see them hugging on his horse. he has more empathy now, more understanding. he's willing to put himself out there for that horse, you know. and it's changing him. coming up, la nina leaves
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>> another day and another important lesson at the contractional facility in sacramento. >> are you ready for today? >> we lose two horses today. >> a month earlier, joe mizner and the inmates were asked to train four fillies on an accelerated sked usual -- 30 days instead of the usual 120 days for an upcoming adoption event. >> you have to pet her like she's your gil frernd. not like you're smacking her around, buddy. >> mizner feels they beat the odds by having two of the fillies ready to go. >> you have to take into mind, these guys have not had the opportunity of years and years of working with wild horses.
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so we have a school of hard knocks where they're having to learn with me telling them, no, get in this position, move back, get in that position. and they have to figure that out for results to happen. i'm extremely pleased with the progress these guys are showing. >> but the day brings one of the most challenging lessons for the inmates. >> today what we're going to do, we brought our horse trailer in. we'll teach them how to load and offload in the trailer a little bit. and then we'll load up those two fillies and get them ready to be shipped off and they'll be adopted tomorrow hopefully. saturday they'll find a new home. >> which two are going today. la nina and dock. >> sad to see him go. >> robert carey has been working with la nina. >> don't pull that rope. it's okay. it's all right. just stand your ground a little bit.
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>> how you doing? >> good and sad at the same time. >> whoo's that? >> she's leaving. >> i started and i found out that she had a soft spot where she kind of leans into you. when their ears are forward, they're really calm and relaxed. she's gotten a lot better. when she first started, she tried biting. now she's got it all figured out. >> though the two fillies have become more domesticated, mizner anticipates having them file into a small transport trailer is going to be hard. considering they were running wild only a month earlier. >> mr. tores, hand off. you can hang out and watch and see how this is going. >> though carey has worked with la nina, mizner decides to go with hector sanchez who has more experience. >> him and i talked and he's
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just not physically at the point where he can be effective where it's going to be helpful. so it's going to take him a while to get to that point. i applaud his desire to be doing exactly what these guys are doing. but he's just not at that level yet. when he gets there, he'll be confident at it. and then he'll be effective. when he's not confident right now and he's not effect i have. that doesn't help the horse learn. and him, too. he's going to get hurt and then he's not going to want to do it at all. and i don't want him to get hurt. >> bring her back to it. there you go. good. >> the guys are showing that they're adaptable. that they're teachable. if they can follow instruction, that makes them employable, doesn't it? that makes them willing to step up and do something that they've never done before. but there might be a benefit for them. >> so hopefully that's starting to sink in. >> now keep her straight. >> it takes a few attempts to coach la nina into the trailer.
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>> okay, one more time. this time she's going to get all four in. she's going to step in. she's going to come all in. good, now put her. love her, pet on her. awesome job, dude. that's fantastic. you just caught that horse how to load in a trailer. that horse responded really well to torres loading in the trailer. i saw the horse's body language and i thought you know, i think carey can do it. >> because she seems adaptable, mizner risks out of the trailer and give carey a shot. >> i want to give him an opportunity to do what the other guys are doing, too. i need his confidence to get stronger. that's why i had him step up and do it. >> draw her up into you. all in. there you go. way to go, man. you did it. >> i'm happy. i'm really happy. i was really hoping i get a
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chance to be the one to put her on the trailer the first time. hector got to do it, but that's cool. i still got to do it myself and put it on her. it was a bittersweet moment i've been waiting for. i'm sad to see her go, but i'm a proud parent sort of thing. >> a little bit at a time, that's right. a little bit at a time. you're the man. you are the man. >> i'm not going to tear him down. i'm going to keep building on them, just like we build on these horses. you see how we give that horse confidence, we give it reassurance, we give it leadership. we're okay, you're going to be all right. very good. you guys are doing an amazing job here. if i can do that to the guys, too, they will be able to assimilate that when they get on the outside. that's the whole point of the program.
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