it may be one of the most twisted murder stories you'll ever see. >> i was telling myself you're doing this because you love her. >> certainly one of the most twisted love affairs. >> she said, is there a dead body in the house? and i said, well, no. >> but somebody was dead. that was obvious. >> in between the couch and the wood stove is a spray of blood. >> it was supposed to look like an accident. >> i'm so sorry. i'm just so sorry. i'm thinking, why are you sorry?

>> and police were supposed to believe it was jealousy that caused it. >> he looked at her with such lust. >> but it was all a lie, except for the lust and the murder. >> my point of view with her, she's a reptile. >> while the cops track down the truth -- >> this was the road he was on at the time he was murdered. >> she tracked down her lover. >> he was dead, we would have had a hard time proving this case. >> but love was the last thing on her mind. why didn't you just run? >> i kept feeling the love. >> the love? she just tried to shoot you to death. the strange story of "the seduction." good evening, and welcome to "dateline." i'm ann curry. something happens when love turns to obsession. and it is rarely good. in tonight's story, an obsessed lover was willing to do almost anything to keep the woman he loved, even if it cost a life, even if that life was his.

here's keith morrison. >> did you just shoot me? did you just really shoot me. >> he didn't feel them, the .44 magnum slugs that ripped through his body, blew holes in the wall behind him. >> and i'm on the ground and i'm crying, why are you killing me? >> and she answered with a bullet to the chest. so, of course, it's a love story in its own weird, perverted way. a story about a kid and a dame, about people who act like they're living in movies, like "double indemnity" or "body heat" or "sin city." but the star would be the simple trusting guy who gets played for a chump, if you can imagine a chump's worst nightmare. >> i had an uncle by marriage and he was sexually molesting me. >> but then life had never been a box of chocolates for jaime

ramos. >> i was about 6, 7 when it started. and it ended about somewhere between 15 and 17. >> ten years? >> yes. >> he barely knew his imprisoned father, not even a memory of mother. >> i lost my mother at 2 years old. she committed suicide. >> is that why young jaime turned out the way he did? >> i think in reality is what has always caused me to seek for a mother figure in my life. >> how do you feel when you're with older women? >> i just feel like i'm secure. >> needy was our jaime. and then he was in ninth grade, hormones in overdrive, and a woman who offered herself as a substitute mother of sorts was one of his teachers. >> we became friends.

and then it started to become an intimate relationship. and i was with her until i was about 17. >> outrageous, of course. illegal, immoral, just plain wrong. and like all the forbidden loves in the movies, it was destined to end badly. the teacher finally sent him a message, jaime tells us, severing the relationship. and when the heart-sick boy ran to her house to plead with her not to leave him, she locked him out. >> i ended up smashing the sliding door open with a chair outside that she had, a patio chair. >> police were called, of course. and jaime arrested. >> and the last words i ever heard from her were, "don't dare you say you know me, you psycho." >> that's when he was overcome by the strangest feeling. it would happen a lot, like he was living in a movie.

in this case, the film noir thriller "body heat" in which a lover is wildly obsessed by his woman. jaime wasn't thinking about the part where the lover is set up to take the fall for a husband's murder. but then why would he? that would be like remembering something that hadn't happened. not yet anyway. for now jaime's life out in california's mojave desert was quite a mess. a stretch in juvie, no job waiting on the outside, and it was ironically in the spirit of kindness that some well-meaning soul directed jaime up here, up here to the sierra nevada mountains, where jaime joined the california conservation corps, a work camp where a kid can grow and learn in the great outdoors. naturally such places require supervisors to watch over the

young people, look out for them. one of jaime's minders was a married middle-aged mother by the name of patty presba. >> i saw all the other young men and women there calling her mother, mom. >> and so, of course, jaime did too. >> how did she respond? >> with pure kindness and understanding. >> jaime felt he had finally found someone he could confide in about his years of abuse. >> i gave her my whole life story, from beginning to end. i've given her things that my family doesn't even know about. she made me feel like a man again. >> never felt like a man before? >> never felt like a real man before until i talked to her. >> mind you, patty was every bit of 47, years that had lumped themselves unkindly around her face and frame. but jaime was a baby-faced 21, younger than any of patty's four children.

but who can understand the mysteries of love? within weeks, romance bloomed. their flirtatious encounters were even occasionally caught on store surveillance tapes, all playing out in a country place where everybody knows everybody pretty much. they call it the divide, this isolated mountaintop, cap of the fated gold rush town with a population smaller than most high schools. hard to keep a secret up here. so they were careful, mostly. she would sneak in late at night when the others were asleep. didn't it seem odd to you to be with an older woman? >> it never felt odd. it always felt right for me. just to have that comfort. >> twisted? well, perhaps yes, to you or me. but jaime was a lover one day, a son the next, and all along showered with gifts and attention. she even took him shooting with her brand new revolver, a .44 magnum.

>> i was shooting bullets for, like, half an hour straight, just having the time of my life. >> what did that feel like? >> powerful, and i felt like a kid, you know, like, that's the thing about those experiences. i always ended up feeling like a kid again. >> and how did that make you feel about her? >> it made me feel indebted. >> indebted indeed. jaime would learn soon enough that patty expected repayment. coming up, she had his heart. next on patty's list, jaime's soul and her husband. >> she's, like, well, you want me to leave him, right? yes. well, then, what if he accidentally dies?

>> when "the seduction" continues.

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life had been an awful struggle for jaime ramos. out here on the sun-blistered, sandy streets of his boyhood, no mother, no father, sexually abused by an uncle. so if once a childhood teacher awakened his desire, perhaps it wasn't so hard to understand. but his love now for patty, a woman twice his age, her son twice the age of jaime and she was more impassioned than ever. he would do anything for this woman, anything. oh, and he would. you liked to please her, huh? >> yes. >> did you ever try not pleasing her, disagreeing with her? >> yes. and she would get angry with me. and it hurt me. i went back to feeling

insignificant. i went back to feeling alone. >> and not a man. >> and not a man. it always brings me back to the void of losing my mother. it's unbearable. your bones want to come out of your skin from anxiety, start thinking these suicidal thoughts. >> and once when patty was making up with jaime after putting him through one of those awful black and needy days, she revealed a terrible secret. her husband, ron presba, she said, had been beating her. >> i just kept telling her, well, get a divorce. leave. find an apartment. do something. live with your kids. but it was never that simple. there was always some complication for her. >> like what, for example? >> even her children didn't believe her. i felt bad. but she's one of the most honest

people i've ever met, and yet she's telling me how her kids don't even believe her. it made me feel even more in love with her, like, wow, i guess it really is only you and me against them. >> yeah. the two of you against the world. >> yes. >> and then one secret weekend, they managed to get away. patty said she told her husband she was attending a conference in san francisco. but really she was attending to jaime. and she had a special surprise in mind, to be unveiled along this pier near fisherman's wharf. it was valentine's day. >> she bought two matching engagement rings and she gave her private ceremony of a wedding with me. and i felt that i was her husband. during this wedding, she said she promised me that the only way we would break up ever would be death, death do us apart, literally.

>> and a few weeks later, patty arranged another trip, another weekend tryst. this time it was las vegas. and she told him it was to be their honeymoon. >> she took me to the place that i always wanted to go to and that was the star trek experience. it was the greatest time of my life. until this day, i honestly believed i was on the enterprise. i got to talk to commander riker and data and geordi la forge. it was great. >> to jaime, patty was a rainmaker, a magical person who could transform him from boy to man to husband, and his love, his obsession was real, it was spiritual. those secret wedding vows they exchanged on this san francisco pier were as binding to jaime as if they had been made in a holy cathedral before god. a promise he made terrifyingly real a few weeks later.

it was during one of their weekend getaways, they were on the freeway, jaime driving, when his cell phone rang. it was an ex-girlfriend and patty, listening to jaime slightly embarrassed attempts to politely get the girl off the phone, became suddenly violently angry. >> she throws this water bottle at my head and that gets me flustered. like what did you do that for? just pull the car over, turn it around, we're over, we're through. i started yelling at her, telling her, so you're telling me that we're through? she said, yes. and i said, well, then, that means we need to die if that's what you're saying. i pushed the car to, like, 95 and i purposefully ran myself under a semi truck. somehow we spun out from the tires instead of getting sucked in and landed in the median, rolling, and not a scratch on us. and i told her, i told you til

death do us apart. >> so what else would jaime do for patty's love? after the accident, she offered her forgiving embraces. she brought jaime out of his misery. and then she began sobbing and trembling and told him she had a terrible secret, more terrible than any secret she had told him before. her husband, she said, had become even more violent and now he had crossed a dreadful threshold. now he had raped her. >> i felt like this man did it to me and i promised myself that this will never happen to me again. and since it happened to me again, i'm going to hurt this man. >> and that's the moment when a strange, dark and curious little idea wormed its way into jaime's all-consuming story of love. it was patty's idea, of course. she was a movie buff too.

and she fed jaime a line right out of "body heat". >> i wish he would die. that's really what i want. it's horrible and it's ugly and it's what i most want. >> she's like, well, you want me to leave him, right? yes. and you don't want him to hurt me no more, right? yes. well, then, what if he accidentally dies? >> coming up, if only jaime had known patty's real plans, and the real patty. >> i have not liked her since day one. she just rubbed me the wrong way. she was very fake. when "the seduction" continues.

life in the mountains could be dangerous. accidents do happen here. now patty came to spirit jaime away from his dormitory, she filled his head with ideas about all the dreadful things that could well happen to that abusive husband of hers. >> she starts coming up with these ideas of, you know, him going off a cliff. >> but to him, says jaime, all that talk was just that, talk. noore real than some plot line from one of the movies he liked to watch. what was patty planning? jaime began to understand. when his lover bought some paperwork to their next secret

tryst. >> it came one day to where she presented me an envelope with this life insurance policy. and that's when i realized that everything we were talking about was really for real. >> the life insurance policy would pay the beneficiary twice as much if the insured person died an accidental death. that kind of policy is known in the business as double indemnity. double indemnity is also the name of a '40s film classic about a woman who seduces a man and sets him up to kill her husband. >> he keeps me shut up. he's always been mean to me. >> well, you sometimes wish he was dead? >> perhaps i do. >> and you wish it was an accident. and you had that policy for $50,000. is that it? >> perhaps that too. >> but that was long before jaime's time. and for all the movies he watched, this was a plot line he knew nothing about.

even if in this new and real life version the starring role would be his. >> if it makes her happy, then that's what i'll do. >> because unhappy -- >> because unhappy is not -- >> not an option. >> not an option. and whatever happened to me didn't matter, as long as she was happy. >> jaime had, he told her, only one condition. >> i told her if you want me to kill the man, i need to see what he's like. >> so patty concocted one of her stories. she told ron that jaime had just quit his job with the conservation corps and needed a place to stay for a few weeks before moving on to texas. and now jaime finally had a chance to face patty's monster. >> right away, he wasn't the man i expected. he was very enjoyable. he taught me things about using hand tools. he was funny.

he had a lot of jokes. he told me about his life and his kids. he was not at all the man that she portrayed him to be. >> no, not at all. in fact, leave the love birds briefly and spend a couple of minutes with their intended victim. ron presba was a bear of a man, born and raised right here on the divide, never lived anywhere else. he had all kinds of jobs. ranch hand, backhoe operator, you name it. but mostly he was a father, and a son, and people around here liked him. ron loved his simple life up here in the divide. he was a real mountain man. an original. raised his two daughters on his modest acreage up there among the pine trees, tried marriage three times. but the one constant in his life year after year was the short stroll across the street to his mother's house, where the two of

them would sit together every afternoon and have tea. ron's mother lois says her son was devoted to his two adoring daughters, april and misty, and they to him. >> oh, my gosh. he was like a father and a mother. they didn't have a mother, so he cooked, took care of their laundry and cleaned the house. >> he would do our hair and -- >> french braid our hair. >> french braid our hair. >> grizzly adams french braided your hair? >> he was like a mother/father, and knew how to take care of us and did a really good job and taught us a lot. >> and even though by the time ron took up with patty, his two daughter were moving off into lives of their own. they were confused about his infatuation and quite deeply hurt when their father, not a word to them, eloped. >> i have not liked her since day one. she just rubbed me the wrong way. she was very fake, very -- >> fake?

>> i had those vibes of false from her. she just -- nothing she said seemed to be true. >> ron's mother got the same impression as well. >> there was something that just wasn't real about her. i just really couldn't put my finger on it, but ron seemed to be totally in love with her and, you know, so you go along with his wishes. >> sound familiar? ron would do anything to make patty happy. >> he was trying to please her. he was always trying to please her. >> and when she lied to him, told him she had been sexually assaulted by her own father, ron believed it, took it to heart, even if his daughters didn't believe her for a minute. >> she had told my dad that she was molested by her dad. and my dad raising two daughters of his own, i think that he felt sorry for her, and was just, like, i need to help her. >> but was it pity patty was after or was it the kind of

control ron seemed unaware of? the daughters had caught patty in an affair once before. >> i was so close to dad and, you know, there were some decisions that she had made that morally i couldn't accept. and it went against my values, and she had had an affair on my dad and that's unacceptable to me. >> they had radar for these things. seemed pretty obvious to them that patty was straying again. >> we knew because she started wearing makeup, and she lost almost 60 pounds, and she was dressing all cutesy and -- >> short shorts and tighter pants. >> laying out in the sun. you know, i think that my dad was an intelligent man. i think he did know, but i think that he, again, was just finding the good. and, you know, he always wanted to please. and so it was, maybe if i do more, she'll recognize that.

>> desperately trying to win over a woman who had only murder on her mind. coming up, now she had a man willing to do the dirty work. >> i was going to use a falling ax. >> would he go through with it? when "the seduction" continues.

it was a modest little place up here in the mountains. the house, rundown, ticky tack, always needed something, but it was the home they had grown up in and loved. and misty and april, mothers themselves now, popped around all the time to see their dad, talked to him most every day. so they couldn't understand why their father didn't tell them a young man had moved into the house. misty found out quite by accident during one of her visits. >> and that was really odd. i'm like, what's this kid doing here, dad? who is this? he introduced me to him, and i asked him a ton of questions because here is this person on my dad's property and i don't know him. and he says, i'm just here for a few weeks before i go to texas. well, so then i start asking more questions. and we go in the house and he goes straight into one of the bedrooms.

i look at my dad and i'm like, this kid has been living here for two weeks and you haven't said anything to me? >> the sisters knew right away something wasn't right. how could their father be so naive about patty? >> i thought she was having an affair with jaime. >> imagine, when you thought about her having an affair with him -- >> it was disgusting. he was younger than her youngest child. >> yeah. gross. >> there is something seriously wrong with that. >> their father, when it came to patty, he only saw goodness. >> i think dad just bottom line is he truly wholeheartedly loved her and believed in her. he would cater to her every need. he would wake up in the morning and make her breakfast, and coffee, and dad always went out of his way for her. always. >> jaime, remember, had come here to witness the behavior of an abusing brute. but he, too, saw only devotion. >> he did anything to please her. >> in fact, jaime, doesn't it sound a little bit as if he had

a relationship with her which was in some ways like yours? in other words, he was always trying to please her? >> yes. >> was he ever mean to her? >> not once did i hear him raise his voice. >> not at all? >> not at all. >> this is the ogre who was raping and beating her? did it make any sense? >> didn't make any sense. >> so jaime dropped the whole idea of murder, couldn't possibly kill this lovely man. right? well, no. because patty had made her decision about what was going to happen here at ron presba's farm yard. always has been an air of tragedy about the place. the first settler put in this old stone foundation more than 100 years ago as part of a house he intended to build for his bride. abandoned the project when she died. ron had been using it rather ideally as a pig pen. but now patty told jaime, this old stone foundation was to be

the location of her husband's murder. the plan, jaime was to lure ron to the pig pen, hit him from behind, load his body into his old suburban and roll it off the side of this mountain road, known by the locals as chili bar. of all the miles of winding road around ron's little farm, this was the perfect spot to stage an accident. you see that s curve where the truck is coming around the hill over there? there is no protective barrier. a car can go right down into the valley, hundreds of feet below. and just over here, behind that berm, is the only place along this road which is perfect for hiding a getaway car. on june 24th, 2008, patty went shopping with jaime for shoes and coveralls in case the killing got messy. that afternoon she took jaime to a used auto lot and bought him a used getaway car, a 2003 green hyundai. afterwards, patti went to dinner with family as jaime returned to ron's place. >> her alibi was being with her

daughter and granddaughter all day. >> how did you communicate with each other all that day? >> by phone. we had prepaid phones for them not to be traceable. >> you thought about that in advance? >> yes. >> who went and bought them? >> she did. >> jaime and ron were now alone at the house. the murder was supposed to take place just before nightfall, out by the pig pen. but as the hours ticked down, jaime wavered. >> if there is any definition of doubt, that's what i was feeling. >> in the movie that was jaime's life, ron presba was a monster. but this man in front of him now just wasn't. but patty could never have lied. jaime was sure. she never lied. it was all so confusing. >> she tells me i'm supposed to believe, i'm supposed to say that it's real. but what i experience i know is real and i saw it firsthand.

and they do not meet up in any way or form. >> and you're about to kill him? >> and i'm about to kill him. >> based just on what you've been telling me here, it sounds as if this man was one of the very few good men you ever experienced living with in your life. would that be fair and accurate? >> that would be fair and accurate. if none of this came about and i lived there, i can definitely embrace him as a father figure, teaching me trades, giving me advice, and just being kind. >> could he accept the truth, his own eyes saw? or was it only patty's version he could allow himself to believe? >> i thought of the rape. i thought of my rape. >> to get yourself angry? >> to get myself angry, to justify myself, to blind what i felt was the truth.

>> so as the summer sun set and the two watched television, jaime told ron who was hard of hearing that the pigs were making noise and maybe they should investigate. it was out by the pig pen, you'll recall, where ron was to be murdered. >> because that way it would be easier to hide, clean up, if you want to say. i was going to use a falling ax and i had it here by my waist, ready to swing, but the adrenaline that i felt that should have surged through went in and out in a split second. and i went and sat it beside a tree on the way. >> couldn't do it? >> i couldn't do it. >> a few minutes later, jaime stepped away, phoned patty, begged her to accept what he now knew in her heart, that she was

mistaken about her husband. >> i said, patty, i don't believe this. i don't believe this, i told her. this is wrong. this is wrong. >> she said what? >> you're telling me you don't love me right now. if you're going to do it, do it. and if not, just leave. >> oh, patty was not finished with jaime. and not with her husband either. coming up, once these two got involved, well, what they had to do was just plain -- weird. >> very. >> when "the seduction" continues.

it was the morning after the night at ron presba's pig pen. the morning after jaime lost his nerve and put aside the ax with which he was going to kill patty's husband. it was about 8:00 a.m. ron's daughter april was heading to her sister misty's house. she was winding along chili bar road when she came across a brushfire. there was a roadblock, a line of cars. >> patty and her friend was parked and sitting out of their cars leaned up against the hood of the car. i pulled in there and turned around and patty approached me. she said, honey, april, dad didn't come home last night. and i said back to her a couple of times, yes, he did. i talked to him on the phone that night. >> as april was talking with patty up on the road, down at the base of the gorge, firefighters were making their way to the cause of the blaze, a still smoldering chevy suburban, registered to ron presba. the vehicle was still hot. they couldn't get too close, but

it appeared the charred remains of a body were inside. then as they followed the vehicle's trail back up to the road, they found something quite odd. fresh stains, a series of dots leading right off the edge of the cliff. word spread fast then. ron's brother ken got word from a firefighter. >> we heard he came around the corner, hate deer and went over the bank. >> this is deer habitat, plenty of them scamper across the highway. but there are no barriers to prevent a car from careening off the edge. standing on the highway, ron's daughter saw the commotion, the fire down below, but understanding came slow, like a wound that takes a minute to start hurting.

>> dad does not like to drive chili bar and dad does not drive at night. >> i didn't believe it and you step out of the role of being a daughter and into the role of we got to find out what's wrong and what happened. >> pretty soon, april and misty and misty's husband were all up here on chili bar, watching the policemen and firemen at the gorge, and then misty caught sight of the splotches on the surface of the road itself. >> it actually even came to this area, but there was some very large amounts up on the road and then it would go smaller amounts up higher above it and around the corner. >> that's about the time the accident investigator thought maybe a couple of homicide detectives should check things out, just to be on the safe side. >> we received a call that something wasn't right with this accident. >> detectives paul hagis and mike lensing of the eldorado police department were on call that morning. >> there was a pool of blood,

pretty good sized, and then droplets and the drops kind of followed the path of the vehicle over the edge of the roadway. >> but why would there be a pool of blood? if the car was traveling on the highway, would it leave a pool of blood like that? >> something sat there long enough and dripped long enough to create that pool. in addition to that, right next to the pooling of the blood, the staining, there was also an impression, it looked like a plastic bag type of impression on the roadway next to it. >> hang on a second. a plastic bag kind of impression? what does that mean? >> say you take a small grocery bag, the plastic grocery bags, dip it in blood, and then touch that to the ground, you can see the crinkle marks of the plastic within the impressions of the dried blood. >> weird. >> very. >> as the detectives made their

way into the gorge, they found hanging from a bush this singed plastic bag. >> we went down there, the embankment a little bit and got a closer look. and my partner opened up the bag. >> a clue? well, yes, it certainly was. but what was in that bag? what could it possibly mean? >> that was the last thing i expected to find in there. coming up, the bag was only one of many surprises that day. >> and she -- >> i'm so sorry. i'm just so sorry. and i'm thinking, why are you sorry? >> when "the seduction" continues.

the accident up here on the narrow winding highway they call chili bar didn't look right at all, not to the fire department, and not to the two homicide detectives who followed a suspicious looking trail of blood down the highway to the place the suburban went off the edge. that's why they found a stomach-turning clue inside a plastic bag. >> i found a partial human brain or a partial brain. that was the last thing i expected to find in there. >> down in the gorge, the suburban was a smoldering metal carcass. >> there was an occupant in the

vehicle, but it was burned, you know, so far beyond recognition, you couldn't tell if it was a male or a female. >> yet there was little doubt who the victim was. >> we kind of had an idea of where to begin our investigation at that point. >> by now, ron's family, in shock and grieving, gathered at his mother's house. and just across the road, keeping vigil outside ron's house were patty and her children. april and misty walked across the road to the house they grew up in. >> and we went to the garden because that was our sacred place for dad. and she had no emotions. it was like false emotions, like she was trying to force it out. and she said i'm going to miss him so much. he's my whole life and she's shaking the fence and she's got this -- >> right around here? >> in the garden. >> just down here. >> and i'm so sorry, i'm just so sorry. and she went over and shaking the trees and going into this hysterics but not one tear is coming out of her eyes. >> no genuine emotion.

>> none. none. >> almost as strange, they said, was the behavior of patty's children. >> they were out laughing and having fun and drinking and blaring music, like nothing was going on because she had them believe that dad had hit a deer. >> in the midst of this bizarre gathering, detectives pulled up to question patty, the one who reported ron was missing. >> he we arrived there, she was surrounded by her family and she looked to be distraught. >> so they took her into the house where they could talk to her privately. and that's when they saw it. >> while i was standing in the living room, speaking to her, i look over to my left, and in between the couch and the wood stove is a spray of blood. >> something must have happened inside this house. the detectives invited patty down to the station for an interview they could get on tape. >> you know, i loved him very, very much and he loved me very, very much.

>> that's when they found out patty had an alibi. she had been out with her daughter and granddaughter all evening, was still out, she said, when ron called her cell phone around 9:00 p.m. >> and he said, well, i'm going to run and get propane for the barbecue tomorrow and some gas so he could mow the lawn tomorrow. >> and that's last thing she had heard from him. >> and when he didn't show up in the middle of the night, she called the police. >> correct. >> all the while, as patty told the sad story of her husband's disappearance, the two detectives noticed a very unsettling trait. >> her emotions were just very fake. >> how could you tell they were fake? >> no tears. >> i'm sorry. i'm almost speechless because it's like who could have wanted to hurt him. >> when the detectives returned to the house a few hours later, the csi team was about to begin its search for clues. >> used a chemical called blue star. and anything that shows up

positive for blood glows. and the entire living room, kitchen and hallway glowed in this home. you could see swipes where the blood had been wiped up. you can see footprints. you can see drag marks. >> ron's brother ken had arrived by then to watch and wonder what in the world was going on. >> something bad had happened. something really bad had happened. you don't have a crime scene investigation of that magnitude if something hadn't happened. >> and as the investigation dragged on inside, ken says, the mood among patty's children waiting outside started to get ugly. they were convinced ron's death was a simple accident, and that the police seemed to be implying otherwise to them was an insult. >> it was nasty what they were saying. who the f -- what are they doing in our house and they don't belong in our house. i mean, now it is getting bizarre. >> eventually patty's family drifted away. then the police went, too. and having collected what they

needed, they unsealed the house, blood spatters and all, which not only allowed patty to return, it gave ron's family members the first horrifying look inside. >> you could see blood spatter on the stove, on the ceiling. it looked like somebody just took a spatter gun and spattered it all over the ceiling. >> and i'm looking up and i look down and there was brain matter and skull and tissue, and i about just fell down. i -- like my whole body just went limp. and i just wanted to scoop up what was left and take it, thinking that this is -- i know it sounds so gross, but that's all i was going to have left, you know? i think we all were just, like, going what the hell happened?

>> there was so much to take in that first day. it was all such a shock that no one thought to ask. where is that young man who was staying here? where is jaime? coming up. and soon jaime was not the only one missing. patty was gone too. had her prediction to police come true? >> i don't think i'll be around for long. i'm telling you, he'll come for me. >> when "the seduction" continues.

the sierra nevada mountains, a strange place one would think to find a pair of homicide detectives. but for mike lensing and paul hagis, these quirky old gold mining towns are their beat. they devoted their careers investigating the sudden and violent deaths of loopy characters who could have

stepped out of the pages of a mark twain novel. ron presba, for instance, spent his whole life up here, never left the mountain, was as constant as the wind. >> with ronald presba, i can honestly say i didn't meet one person or talk to one person that didn't hold him in the highest regard. everybody said that he would have given his shirt off of his back to anybody. >> and that was the problem about the presba case. nothing added up. >> this, by far, is one of the most interesting murder cases that i have worked. >> due in no small part to patty, who they discovered, was rather hard to pin down. >> do either one of you have boyfriends or girlfriends that you're currently seeing? >> no. >> not a word about jaime. that relationship would be disclosed by ron's daughters. >> when i mentioned jaime, they didn't even know who he was. they're like, who's jaime? >> when the detectives confronted patty about jaime -- >> we were told that you do have a boyfriend.

>> by whom? >> reporter: i can't disclose that. >> that i have a boyfriend? >> yes. >> no. we have a 21-year-old man who was staying with us for three weeks until he could get his stuff together to move to texas. >> okay. what is his name? >> jaime ramos. >> what is that? >> jaime. >> jaime. >> j-a-i-m-e r-a-m-o-s. >> does he have a cell phone? >> no. not that i'm aware of. >> jaime's sudden disappearance certainly raised suspicions, but as far as the presba family was concerned, the kid was a distraction. there was no doubt in their minds as to who would have murdered ron. >> we all knew, i mean in our hearts what had -- that she killed -- she killed him. >> ron's brother ken says he became convinced of patty's

guilt when he began trying to sort out the estate and found a life insurance policy with a special clause. >> a double indemnity insurance policy, if he died by accident. >> exactly the plot line of that old film classic "double indemnity," the husband's murder staged to look like an accident. >> okay, baby, that's it. . welcome back to "newsline," i'm cana co sack know. british defense secretary michael fallon have agreed to increase cooperation. fallon wasses in japan on friday. knack tanney said they exchanged views on