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>> if you want to be a news dumpee, send us an e-mail. rachel@msnbc.com. we do read our e-mail. tell us who you and why you want to play. 2016 could be your year. "weekends with alex witt" starts right now. >> welcome to "weekends with alex witt." alex is off. i'm todd piro. here's what happening. what lies ahead for the drug lord known as el chapo? and ambushed. surveillance video released of a gunman opening fire on a police officer. the suspect pledged allegiance to isis. the voters have a way of administering a spanking. >> tough talk from ted cruz while donald trump kicks more protesters out of a rally, this while we talk about one of the biggest problems in america today. 800 million and growing. a look at your real odds of
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winning the mother of all powerball jackpots. our top story, police say a gunman told them he shot a philadelphia police officer for isis. the officer shot thursday night, surveillance video shows the suspect firing at a squad car, then fleeing. the wounded officer pursued the suspect, shooting and wounding him. other officers took the suspect into custody. police officials said the suspect claimed he acted out of allegiance to isis. >> the suspect in question is a 30-year-old male from yaden. he had a philadelphia address as well. i believe. he's confessed to committing this cowardly act in the name of islam. according to him, he believes that the police defend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the koran. >> let's bring in msnbc law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special
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agent in charge. what do you make of this shooting? police say the suspect he told them he acted in the name of isis, of islam, and he's made a number of trips to the middle east. is this enough to put a person like this on someone's radar? >> well, it could be, todd. i think he's not acting for the name of islam, he's acting for isis. that's quite a different issue. he likely is inspired by his trips to the middle east or maybe on the internet. you know, i like to call isis the unislamic state. they're a death cult and they affect these guys. they use the internet, you know, soft whispers over many months to get them to murder for them. and of course he tried to assassinate officer hartnett who is just extraordinarily courageous in this case. extraordinary courage to fire back, to chase him, to wound him in the buttocks which allowed other philadelphia officers to capture him. a hero officer, you know,
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inspired terrorist it looks like, you know, motive we decide by what are the actions of the person, what did he say his motives were, what did the crime try to accomplish? he wasn't trying to rob him, but trying to assassinate him. he said he was inspired by isis so i think we're mostly there. if we're looking for too much else. there could be some mental issues but that's the way that isis plays on the people. he tries to get anybody to do the murder for them. >> we'll go to msnbc's adam reese live for us in philadelphia with the very latest from the scene. what can you tell us? >> reporter: todd, he was 30-year-old edward archer of west philadelphia, a former attorney, who said he was someone who was impulsive and paranoid, always looking over his shoulder. he had a love of weapons and he wanted to keep the police officer, but despite the fact he did this in the name of islam, he doesn't believe he had any connection to radical islam.
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here's the mayor. >> in no way shape or form does anyone believe that the teaching of islam has anything to do with what you have seen on that screen. this is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of the officers. it has nothing to do with being a muslim or following the islamic faith. >> reporter: now the fbi is searching his home and they want his entire digital footprint. they want to know who he's been in contact with, why did he go to saudi arabia? and egypt in recent years. they want to know most importantly, how did he get the gun that he used which was stolen from a philadelphia police officer's home two years ago. officer hartnett is recovering behind me this morning with a broken arm, nerve damage. but certainly lucky to be alive. todd? >> thank you very much. jim, i want to go back to you. the suspect quickly caught after the shooting. mostly due to the efforts of officer hartnett who was
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wounded. here's the radio call that hartnett made at the time. >> shots fired, shots, i'm shot. i'm bleeding. >> stand by, we have an officer shot. 6-0 and spruce. >> officer hartnett pursued the suspect, shooting and wounding hip. what can you say about his actions, despite his injuries? >> you know, it's unbelievable courage. you know, i have driven a radio car around just like him at night, with your window down. somebody runs up to you like that unexpectedly starts shooting at you, that's extraordinary. he only took a minute to call in, said he was wounded, get his seat belt off and get his shots off to the assailant. todd, if not for officer hartnett's actions while he was wounded this guy would have went on to hurt somebody else, another citizen or a police officer. who knows what he could have done. gotten another weapon. gotten a knife.
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you know, done any kind of berserk thing. but i think we should also not give this guy a pass that isis has an in -- hasn't inspired him. i think agents will likely find he's been on the web, he's been on their sites. maybe even old al qaeda sites like al alwacky. i like to call it a zombie death cult, they whisper, touch you on the internet on their websites and they slowly get you in to the death cult and of course once you're in, your life is worthless. they convince you to hurt others. maybe not some organized terrorist, you know, dialed in to the main leaders in the middle east. but just can be as deadly, just one guy. >> well, jim, let's go big picture here for a moment. this is the latest in what may be a series of isis inspired attacks. in 2014, a man wielding a hatchet wounded a new york city officer said to be inspired by isis.
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a boston man was arrested six months ago an police said he was planning on carrying out an attack against officers. yesterday, the nypd issued a bulletin reminding officers to remain vigilant in the wake of the philadelphia shooting. so how do all of these incidents affect the way that officers throughout our great nation carry out their every day duties? >> well, they're paying attention, clearly. isis has called for their followers and their inspired actors to attack police, military officers wherever they can. when you're out there in uniform as a law enforcement officer, everybody knows who you are. you have a big car, all painted up. you have lights on top. you have your uniform. but you don't know who everybody else is, they're in mufti, they're in plainclothes so you can be a target. you have to be on your game. officers you see them sometimes sit in the back of the
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restaurant. they don't want anybody sneaking up behind them. they'll do their job. we have got as a country though -- and there have been meetings in the white house and the silicon valley to do a much better job of interrupting the twitter feeds, the websites. it's really terrible when we've got isis has a media wing in raqqah that's under constant aerial bombardment in the middle of a war that's outproducing the video of the united states. these guys are outproducing us, they're putting videos out convincing people to be these zombie killers. we've not doing a -- we're not doing a good job of interrupting their message. it doesn't matter how many twitter followers they have. if they have 50,000, we have 300 million people. let's put some of the people to work. the nation needs to think bigger to counter that message. >> great point, jim. jim cavanaugh. breaking news overnight, a new york city police officer was shot in the bronx. some of the suspects were armed
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with guns and knives. a 25-year-old officer was hit in the right ankle by a bullet. he's at the hospital in stable condition but is expected to be okay. several suspects are in custody. and more breaking news. a crowd of syrian refugees attending a welcome event in vancouver, pepper sprayed by an assailant on a bicycle. there was no clear motive for the attack but opinions among the crowd were mixed about whether they were targeted because they are syrian. police searching for the suspect. the u.s. economy is heading in two opposite directions. first in the jobs report shows a surge of 292,000 jobs added in december. capping off a very strong year for hiring, but at the same time, oh, the stock market it continues to dive. the dow lost 168 points on friday ending the worst week since 2011. so you need some money. $800 million up for grabs tonight in the nation's largest
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powerball jackpot ever. nbc's kristen dahlgren live for us in life in new york city to buy tickets this morning. how are things looking? >> reporter: good morning, todd. it's never too early to buy your chance at becoming a multimillionaire. we have seen people coming in early this morning to get those tickets and some places they have actually run out of the paper that they print them on. they have had so many people coming in but you have to understand it with the chance to wake up tomorrow morning $800 million richer it's hard not to get caught up in the dream. with word that the jackpot had grown to a whopping $800 million, so did the shopping list. >> a month on the riviera would be nice. >> buy me a beautiful six bedroom home in georgia. >> reporter: look at the lines from nevada to miami, even canadians crossing the border in droves. >> i actually had people on facebook messaging who's going
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over to the states today? i need to get powerball tickets so i'm grabbing it for a few people. >> reporter: powerball fever in full swing. >> a big long vacation and not work anymore. that's for sure. >> reporter: for many though, it's still hard to grasp just how much $800 million is. here's some help. if you took $800 million $1 bills it would circle the earth more than three times. just how much could that buy? well, keep in mind you'll probably only get about $496 million in a lump sum. still enough to pay for six private islands or more than 100 lamborghinis. feeling more philanthropic? you can feel 1 million hungry families for a year. but you couldn't afford an nfl team. the powerball people are keeping it super secure. the drawing will be in florida tonight and all of the equipment is in a double locked armed and sealed vault which takes a minimum of three people to get inside. the odds of winning are of course astronomical.
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one in 292,201,338. >> so you're telling me there's a chance? yeah! >> reporter: but one in 292 million -- >> one person has to win. why can't it be me? >> reporter: a sentiment being shared by millions. >> here's the winner. yee-haw. >> reporter: the people are very excited about this and the number could actually go up depending on how ticket sales are today. here's some good news, lottery officials say with all of the people that are buying them about 65% of the possible number combination will be bought. so better than not, chances that somebody wins. todd, if nobody wins it tonight, it rolls over and it will be up over $1 billion if there's a drawing on wednesday. >> it looks like you beat up everybody in the line so you're going to win, no chance for
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anybody else in new york city. kristen dahlgren, thank you. good luck. now to some weather. take a look at this. this is unreal. it is a snowy owl captured mid flight. get ready. this is all by a traffic camera in montreal. it's going to be there. how cool is that? they're rarely seen outside the arctic. let's turn to the weather channel's reynolds wolf. look at that. that's just so neat. i like you too. lit -- let's see the awesome shot of reynolds. >> boy, we have a lot to share with you around america today. the first is the installment of cold air funneling through parts of america and then with that the precipitation that we'll have. possibly some strong storms across parts of the south, but the winter weather from winter storm harrah is affecting millions also. and ski resorts say in michigan, good news for them. for drivers, maybe not so much. in some locations you could have anywhere from five to eight
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inches of snowfall. pittsburgh, three to five inches of snowfall and chicago maybe a dusting in some locations. slick driving conditions, all but a certainty for you. we can expect things to taper off tomorrow. be ready for the colder air that's going to be affecting so many of you and the snowfall that will come with it. all right, let's send it back to you, todd. >> thanks. our other top story, in mexico today, drug lord joaquin guzman known as el chapo, back in custody after six months on the lam. he famously opportunitiled out of -- tunnelled out of a maximum security prison. gabe gutierrez has the very latest in mexico city. how did they finally catch him? >> reporter: hi, todd. good morning. well, it's an amazing story. el chapo's escape six months ago was straight out of a hollywood movie. well, it turns out a different kind of movie may have been instrumental in his escape. late last night, the mexican attorney general said that el chapo may have been trying to
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make a bio pic of himself and through intermediaries had he been reached out to actors an producers and that's part of the reason that authorities were able to track him down. to the mexican state of sinaloa, home to his drug cartel. he was paraded in front of the tv cameras last night. he's been taken ban to the -- back to the same prison that he escaped from. el chapo is knnotoriously here mexico and around the world and there are questions about where will he stay? will he stay here in mexico or will he be extradited back to the united states? it was a dramatic raid. five other suspects were killed, six were arrested. and a mexican marine was injured. but this morning, el chapo once again is waking up in that same mexican maximum security prison just outside mexico city where
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he escaped from. todd? >> gabe, why was the mexican navy called in for this operation? not the army, not the police. >> reporter: well, todd, as you know, there have been many discussions about possible corruption here in mexico. this was a very significant operation for the administration. for enrique pena nieto and people were saying in order to give his government credibility this needed to be a priority. so the mexican navy went in. and over the past few months the u.s. has also been praising its relationships with mexican authorities. it's unclear what role the u.s. played in this operation and how much intelligence they shared. but again, this was a huge priority for enrique pena nieto's administration. yesterday during that news conference, i was there, it w was -- it was not the same bravado of course that there was during the last capture of el chapo. you have to remember, todd, el chapo has been captured before.
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he's escaped before. >> right. >> reporter: so now there are questions about whether he will be safe in this maximum security prison. the mexican authorities say he will be. todd, back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, thanks. missing in action why two gop front-runners won't be at an event this morning on one of the key issues in this year's election. later, new protests and new demand for action in the wake of flint's water crisis. and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood,
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states should lead. we have to lead. >> and that was jeb bush in an interview with bloomberg politics mark halperin last night, hitting back on donald trump on foreign policy. bush will continue his swing today in south carolina where he'll lay out his ideas to fight poverty. a little over two hours from now, he'll be among seven republican candidates speaking at the kent forum on expanding opportunity. msnbc's kasie hunt is at the forum, and walk us through the format of the forum and how it can help jeb bush and others gain traction and pick up some key endorsements. >> reporter: todd, good morning. this forum is a series of conversations about this key issue. we'll see a couple of panels where the candidates will engage with moderators and one another on the best way to fight poverty. it is hosted by house speaker paul ryan. he's made this a significant issue, he has been focused on for quite some time. this is his way of bringing attention to it as the 2016 campaign unfolds. but i have to tell you the issue that's been most prominent on
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the campaign trail over the past few days hasn't been poverty but terrorism, concerns about isis. we saw this philadelphia cop police say had pledged allegiance to isis and two terror related arrests that were made of iraqi refugees who came through that program that allows refugees from syria from the middle east to come into the country. so that's what republicans have been talking about. >> saying how well -- >> reporter: two terror related arrests are putting national security front and center in the gop race. >> have you seen what's been happening within our country in the last two or three days? we have a president that doesn't even want to talk about what's really happening. we have to find out what the hell is going on. >> reporter: trump has called for a temporary ban on muslims entering america. drawing protesters at his friday night rally including one woman wearing a head scarf. they were all escorted out. >> we are going to knock the
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[ bleep ] out of isis. >> reporter: campaigning in iowa ted cruz blamed the president for letting the two men, refugees from iraq into the country. >> both came in through the vetting programs that president obama tells us are perfectly effective for vetting terrorists. >> reporter: adding to concerns the man who shot a police officer in philadelphia police said had pledged allegiance to isis. >> we need a president who's clear and steely eyed and understands the danger we face. >> the simple fact is that we're living in really dangerous time. >> reporter: these republicans are all trying to make the case they'd be tougher on terror than democrat hillary clinton who cruz says has been lying about the attacks in benghazi, libya, that killed four americans when she was secretary of state. >> if my daughter katherine up, the 5-year-old says something she knows is false she gets a spanking. well, in america the voters have a way of administering a spanking. >> reporter: not clear yet if
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the ambush style shooting of a philadelphia police officer. a suspect is in custody, and the officer is recovering after being shot three times and then pursuing and wounding his alleged assailant. the suspect told police he acted in the name of islam. steve patterson is in philadelphia this morning. what are we learning about the alleged gunman and his motives? >> reporter: good morning, todd. we're getting a fuller profile of a man accused of shooting the philadelphia police officer and while you're right, he told police he did it in the name of islam, but we're starting to learn from other people who know him better that they're painting a different picture. it's chilling video. surveillance capturing the moment a gunman opened fire on a philadelphia police officer in an unprovoked attack at point blank range, shooting at least 11 times. >> shots fired, shots -- i'm bleeding. >> reporter: 33-year-old police
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officer jesse hartnett was hit three times in the arm and as the gunman ran away he kept shooting. but the officer managed to follow and returned fire. >> i have a male in custody. >> reporter: police captured the suspect, 30-year-old edward archer and he said the shooting was inspired by islam. police say archer also pledged his allegiance to the islamic state. friday night, federal investigators scoured homes linked to archer around philadelphia, carrying boxes of evidence away. some area neighbors were stunned to learn that archer is a suspect. >> sometimes he would play with the kids. they might play football. >> reporter: archer has prior convictions on simple assault and firearms charges. law enforcement says the fbi is is looking into the phone and computer records and his trips to saudi arabia in 2011 and egypt in 2012. but there's nothing to suggest the travel was terror related. according to his mother, archer
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had been hearing voices. an attorney represented archer back in 2013. >> he was very impulsive. he was very paranoid. he was always looking over his shoulder. >> reporter: officer hartnett is a five-year veteran of the phil philly pd who served in the coast guard. >> it's confounding and astonishing he was able to escape it. >> reporter: well, ironically the weapon used to shoot officer hartnett was registered to a police officer and stolen back in 2013. in the meantime, officer hartnett remains in the hospital. he'll likely recover and he'll have more surgery. >> steve patterson, thanks. since president obama unveiled executive actions on gun reform tuesday, he's been responding to those who feel he has not gone enough and those who feel he's taking everyone's
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guns away. the president blames congress for not holding the gun industry more accountable and he says we need to demand leaders brave enough to stand up to the gun lobby's lies. joining me is karen bass, a democrat, who serves on the judiciary committee. first, what do you say to those who don't think the president's plan will make much of a difference to reduce gun violence? >> well, i do. it's interesting because the nra says we have enough laws on the books and all we need to do is enforce existing laws. well, if you look closely at what the president's suggesting it's that. for example, when background checks went into effect the internet didn't exist. there's a tremendous backlog for background checks so he's calling for increasing the staffing so that background checks can be processed more quickly. the nra and my republican colleagues always say it's a mental health issue, so he's asking for $500 million in mental health. in my opinion, he's doing exactly what the industry and the republicans have asked him
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to do, but of course now they object to even that. >> let's touch upon the mental health aspect. considering most republicans have called for a focus on mental health as a solution to the gun crisis. how confident are you that the congress will back the plan to the mental health treatment and remove barriers to the background check system? >> well, i would love to say i'm confident. i'm not. what i'm encouraged though is because my republican colleagues repeatedly called for attention to mental health. so the question is, will they be willing to spend the money that is required to provide mental health services? that will be the key question and that i can't say i'm confident in. i'm hopeful. >> congresswoman, among your colleagues pushing back against the president is stephen poe lat
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sow. he's introducing a resolution to censure the president for his unconstitutional action on gun control. listen to the president at the town hall. >> what we ultimate he need i believe is for congress to set up a system that is efficient, that doesn't inconvenience the lawful gun seller or purchaser. but that makes sure that we're doing the best background check possible. and the fact, anderson, that this system may not catch every single person or there may be a circumstance where somebody doesn't think they have to register and do and that may cause red tape and bureaucracy for them which -- or inconvenience, has to be weighed against the fact that we may be able to save a whole bunch of families from the grief that some of the people in this audience have had to go through. >> all right, congresswoman, when we consider trump and cruz ramping up the fear that president obama is out to take
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away everybody's guns, how do you think this rhetoric will impact congress' action on the president's measures? >> well, i'm hopeful that congress will be able to move forward and do something. but just like you point out, you know, my republican colleagues are deathly afraid of the nra. because the nra is liable to put a tremendous amount of money against them in races. you know for the house of representatives all 435 of us are up for re-election. so i think it's going to weigh very heavy, especially when you have presidential candidates who are doing everything in their power to whip up fear on many different levels. >> well, let's talk about that more. obviously this involves one of your colleagues. we've marked five years since the shooting of gabby giffords and two years in the toomey/manchin bill failed because they didn't want to go against the nra. have you spoken to your colleagues who is regret they haven't done more to push for common sense gun reform and this
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backlash from the nra still a fear for them? >> it absolutely is. and the bill you're referring to is the bill that passed the senate, but would never, you know, make it in the house of representatives. so you are right. you know, the nra gives all of us letter grades and those letter grades have impact in our elections. so for example, for every year i have gotten an "f" which means that the nra would never contribute money to my campaign nor would i accept it. so my democratic candidates in swing districts are afraid as well, but you know what, in my opinion, i don't think the nra represents gun owners anymore. i think they represent the gun industry and that's where the real money is coming from. >> understood. thank you so much for your time this morning. turning now to the water crisis in flint, michigan, where protesters are calling on the state's governor to step down and even face criminal charges over his handling of lead contamination in the town's drinking water.
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we have more, and how are residents getting their water now? in. >> reporter: good morning, todd. they're getting it from donations primarily, although the governor has declared a state of emergency, he has yet to release funds for water to be delivered to the people. i want to take people back to the origin of the problem. this river is the flint river and in 2014, residents here shifted their water supply from lake huron which is pretreated water that detroit provides to this river. it's a corrosive source and when its moved through the pipes here, the pipes leached lead. yesterday, msnbc was able to work with the pediatrician who originally tested or -- sorry, analyzed the results of lead tests on children here. and found 200 confirmed cases of children under the age of 6 suffering from elevated blood lead levels. those are really dangerous, todd. that means brain damage, that means behavioral issues, something that that i'll track for years to come. >> and while the science is on
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low energy jeb bush becomes president. oh, i had jeb come at me. you know, low energy. look, he's a low energy person, let's face it. >> all right. but i does appear donald trump won't let facts get in the way of a frequent put down. let's explain. turns out that jeb bush is more like the travelin' man. he'd made more campaign trips than any other candidate. the travel tracker shows bush with 173 campaign trips. trump on the other hand has racked up 103 trips. 70 fewer. making him only the seventh most travelled candidate. donald trump's trip to iowa today comes at a time when he's trying to regain his momentum in that key state. a brand new fox news poll shows he's trailing behind ted cruz. joining us is lauren fox. first off, is that an accurate reflection of who voters there will vote for in less than a month from now? >> you know, a lot can change in
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a couple of weeks and what we'll see as the candidates start to travel to the states as they try to make their mark, as they do what they need to do in terms of the ground game, they get the turnout they need. that's how we get results. i think the early polls show interest, they show that voters are engaged they're connecting with the candidate but they don't necessarily show that those same voters are going to come out in the caucuses, going to come out in the primaries and actually stand and wait for their candidates. i think that participation is sort of really what we have to look for. >> what is this trump/cruz decision going to boil down to in iowa? >> well, i think that, you know, one of the main factors that cruz has been pushing here is really his faith. he's connecting a lot with evangelical voters. i think donald trump has been saying that he's connecting with those voters but we haven't seen that bear out. that's one of the main differences. donald trump and ted cruz have certainly had their squabbles although they have pretended to sort of not be having them. sort of this very interesting
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dynamic we're seeing occurring there. but i think faith is going to come down to a piece of this. and then sort of just their general demeanors. they're very different in how they work with the crowd, in terms of how they speak about issues. so i think that that's going to be sort of what comes down in terms of voters' minds and how they make their decision. >> staying on trump for a moment. he's not backing down on attacking former president bill clinton for his past indiscretions. how many are these attacks going to help him and not hurt hillary clinton's chances of winning? >> when these sort of attack lines have come out against the clintons that it actually can help hillary clinton sort of see more -- seem more likable to voters. there's a narrative that she's the victim in that situation which makes voters more sympathetic to her. so i think that it can easily backfire and it's sort of one of those tricky political tricks. it's been out there for a long time. this is nothing new. the more that donald trump talk about it, i'm sure it helps him with conservative voters but i'm
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not sure that in a general election it will help him very much. >> let's go to the democratic side. bernie sanders has regained his edge over hillary clinton after losing his lead there a month or so. up by about 13 points. what do you think caused the support to swing back? is it geography or is hillary clinton in trouble there once again? >> i think that geography is playing a big role here. when we talk about the hillary clinton and bernie sanders discussion, i think, you know, bernie's entrance into this race has really helped hillary clinton in terms of moving her to the left. getting her more of the liberal support she has been working toward. i think that in terms of the polls what we have seen right now is that, you know, hillary clinton might be behind in a short term. but i think in the general election there's still little doubt that she becomes the party's eventual nominee. >> this comes at a time of renewed tension between clinton and sanders. he has called bill clinton's past indiscretions totally
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disgraceful. listen to what she she told chris matthews last night. >> no one can sue a gun maker or gun seller and called it the most significant piece of pro gun legislation in 20 years. and when it really mattered, senator sanders voted with the gun lobby and i voted against the gun lobby. >> given the climate we are in right now, when it comes to gun control is this a winnable argument for clinton? >> well, i think what this shows there's very little sometimes difference between the clinton campaign and the sanders campaign in terms of what they believe, they agree on so many fronts. but this gun issue has been one there seems to be a little bit of difference between. you know, bernie sanders will say, look, i come from the rural state. there is a culture of gun use in rural states. there's a hunting culture. that's very different than where clinton comes from. you know, when you're representing a state like new york where you have, you know, manhattan it's a much different environment in terms of gun control.
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so i think that that's sort of what we're seeing here. but i think at the end of the day it's not going to be the most important issues that voters voting in the primary are thinking about. gun control tends to be lower on the list of priorities of course behind the economy, which tends to be number one and national security. >> it's 2016. we're here. we will see. lauren, thank you. the response of that gunman's ambush of a philadelphia police officer, one of the top stories we are following for you right now. the new york city police department has issued an internal memo warning officers to be extra vigilant in the wake of the attack. and in the attack by a knife wielding suspect on police officers in paris on thursday. the memo reminds officers that they could be targeted for various reasons including terrorist motivations. now that the billionaire drug lord el chapo has been recaptured will mexico extradite him to the u.s. to face drug charges? that's next. its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful,
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mississippi river may be incall coup labl. that amount is only expected to grow higher as -- it could be to the costliest winter time floods in recent history. el chapo, to the leader of mexico's drug cartel is back in custody today, he was captured in a deadly predawn military raid on friday. the last time el chapo was captured in 2014, he was captured with u.s. help. what do we know about the u.s. role if any at this time? >> immediately the u.s. government came out and said
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this was a mexican led, mexican planned, mexican executed operation. but it's clear that the u.s. de, and u.s. marshals may have been there at the arrest. we have to assume there's swraun going very, very close coordination and cooperation between mexican and u.s. authorities. it was important in the first capture of el chapo, it was important in the second capture of el chapo, and now in the third a capture of el chapo. >> building on the cooperation topic, what about the possibility of course of extradition, will it happen? why would the u.s. government want it and what are the benefits to extradition. >> it's the multibillion dollar question that we're all asking right now, it's of crucial importance that el chapo is extradited to the united states. he's wanted on many, many
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charges here, particularly under the rico act. he's somebody who's obviously in charge of a multibillion dollar drug operation, he's responsible, not just for the drugs, but of course for many, many deaths in mexico and in the united states. when he escaped from prison last year, it caused a real problem in -- u.s. authorities were furious with their mexican counterparts, so there's going to be a lot of pressure. one of the problems we're facing right now is of course there's no u.s. ambassador in mexico city, it's being held up because of political reasons here in washington. and this is exactly the time when you want to have the highest level of representation in mexico city, to apply that pressure to the mexicans during the negotiations. >> let's talk a little bit more about the reach, what impact does his capture have really on the cartel, it's a huge well
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organized -- >> he's probably not vital to its survival. during the time he was in prison, both times he was in prison, the drug cartel not only continued but actually prospered, and over the past year, we can see that drugs have continued to flow through the golden triangle, areas in northwest mexico up into the united states. in fact we can almost say that the cartel is similar to other mexican cartels during the same period. the man who's been running the cartel in el chapo's absence elmyo, is a well established leader. and the cartel has procedures in place so that no one person is in dispensable. >> duncan wood, thank you very much for joining us this morning. straight ahead on "up" gop
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