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you want to see that at 6:00 a.m. eastern. general election? >> his policies are more for our whole crew here in pensacola, thanks for watching. dangerous to his chances of win we'll see you tomorrow from ag general election because those policies are to the left south carolina. of what president obama has done "hard ball" starts right and what president obama has done has left us with the now. is ted cruz a canadian weakest economic recovery after a recession since world war ii. anchor baby? let's play hardball. median household income down during his presidency. national security has people good evening i'm chris alarmed across this country of matthews back in washington. the republicans hooted and all parties. hollered that president obama 65% of americans think america was born in kenya. they forced him to show his has been going in the wrong birth certificate showing he was direction. they do not want a third term fwo born in hawaii. for obama and they see bernie now trump is going after ted sanders as somebody who when he cruz saying he was born in opposes obama it is because he canada. what will cruz do about it? doesn't think obama is far enough to the left. >> what would you be saying if isn't this a problem forict the republican president if center readers of the there was one had 5%
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constitution? something is causing cruz to unemployment rate and creating jobs almost 300,000 jobs a month lose control. would you say he was a failure? >> if he was ronald reagan, 22 hallie jackson is in south times in the reagan recovery we carolina. carol lee is a reporter for the created more than 300,000 jobs a wall street journal. a new poll out of iowa shows ted month. it has happened seven times in cruz dropping, donald trump the obama recovery in the same inching up. number of months. cruz still in the lead but just the way we have unemployment down from 10% to 5% in the obama by three points. cruz lost six points. administration is by people since december trump gained one. give us a sense of how it is tropping out of the work force. effecting both campaigns. >> reporter: i think what you 48.7% of the adult americans can take away from this new poll have a full time job today. is this idea that over the last that is low in american month ted cruz as he has risen historical standards. >> we will see how it goes. to more prominence as a front if you had to choose trump or runner in iowa come under more scrutiny. cruz right now? you have seen him be an >> if i had to choose which i increased target on attacks from think would win? >> which one you want to win if marco rubio on immigration and you had to choose between the national security, donald trump on the issue of the birther, his canadian birth place as you two? >> the good news is i don't. talked about. >> you don't want to pick? i would say another part of the >> i don't have to pick. poll shows 15% of iowa >> would you be enthusiastic
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republicans say it does bother them that cruz was born in supporting either one? canada to an american mother. >> against hillary clinton or bernie sanders, yes, sir. while 83% of that segment polled >> and you think trump would be a great president it he were said it doesn't bother them, 15% nominated? >> i have been a party leader is nothing to sniff at. >> it is not clear what his and i understand party leaders don't tell the rank and file and family was doing up there. his father was not an american they must trust the rank and citizen at the time. file. i'm willing to do that in were they an american couple moving to canada or was he a particularly to prevent us from having a third term of barack cuban by who had come to america obama's policies. and got schooling in america but >> thank you as always being then headed up to live in smart and not answering the questions that should be canada. was he immigrating a second answered. i understand why. ten american sailors time? is that what they were doing in canada. released from iran. he was never an american during this. were the 2016 republican the mother was but not the candidates too quick to blame father. >> reporter: as you know rafael the president on this one? comme? cruz came from cuba. they moved to work and do "super food?" is that a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right one for her? ventures in the oil and gas industry. is this really any better than the one you got last year? they spent four to five years there and came back to texas and if we consolidate suppliers, what's the savings there? moved to houston which is where so should we go with the 467 horsepower? ...or is a 423 enough? ted cruz grew up. i would note during that time good question. you ask a lot of good questions... period ted cruz's father left i think we should move you into our new fund.
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the family essentially as cruz writes abandoned ted cruz and sure... ok. his mom, alcohol was an issue. but are you asking enough about how your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab. went to texas and found jesus and reconciled with his family. >> and didn't become an american until 2005. to take care of my heart.s it is interesting about his that's why i take meta. nationality. meta is clinically proven trump continued hammering cruz to help lower cholesterol. try meta today. over his canadian birth. and for a tasty >> how can you vote for somebody heart healthy snack, try a meta health bar. where there is a question. i'm not saying right or wrong at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. but a question. kind of like reunions equal blatant lying. you can't have your nominee with a question. the company is actually doing really well on, it is impossible to do. he is running and people are suing to say he is not allowed on social media. oh that's interesting. i - i started social media. to run. oh! >> meanwhile another it was my...baby. constitutional scar challenging when a moment spontaneously turns romantic, cruz's eligibility to run. why pause to take a pill? a law professor at law school in delaware wrote in the "washington post" that trump is and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? right about cruz. the framers of the constitution cialis for daily use, is the only daily tablet require the president of the united states to be born in the approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. united states or most republican
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caucus goers say cruz's canadian plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. birth doesn't bother them. what is not clear whether the tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. voters know what the constitution says on the matter. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, washington post says it is as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. working. rather than cruz spending final do not drink alcohol in excess. weeks touting his social side effects may include headache, upset stomach, conservative credentials or delayed backache or muscle ache. railing against the washington cartel he is playing defense on to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away a legally fuzzy matter that for an erection lasting more than four hours. simply can't be resolved to the if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, satisfaction of trump and or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, allies. in short, trump wins. stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. let me go to kristin. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. after all of these years now of insurance coverage has expanded nationally the republicans getting a and you may now be covered. contact your health plan for the latest information. chuckle, the president having to prove to some success that he is an american now they have one of their own having been born outside the country. >> a certain level of irony that donald trump has been the ring leader of allegations both times. >> they are true allegations. he was born in canada.
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>> think about what donald trump's core message has been. aren't you tired of losing invote for me because i know how to win. everybody he has gone against it is about planting that seed of doubt about whether the other person is a winner or loser. jeb bush is low energy. marco rubio looks so young. ben carson is kind of iffy. it is not necessarily on issues. these guys might not be winners because there is nothing republicans want more than to defeat hillary clinton. >> if nationalism is at the heart of this the nationalists urge a sense of betrayal by the political establishment and sense of betrayal on immigration, citizenship isn't valued enough, trade, we are losing good jobs to china, bad jobs to immigrants. people are fighting wars they are not helping the united states. now we have a guy not from america. i'm not going to beat this drum too much but enough to get even for the way they treated the
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president who was born in here is what is happening. america. >> all that you need if you want powerball fever is in full to get at cruz is to have it swing. if no one wins the $1.5 billion muddy the waters. that is what it is doing. this is classic political prize the jackpot for the next strategy. it doesn't matter if it is true drawing will be worth $2 or not. you want them talk about it and billion. national guard personnel are in being on the defense. this also to your point plays to flint to help distribute water to residents whose tap water is the idea of authenticity. contaminated with lead. >> why did he tell everybody he the dow slid 364 points. is from canada? the s&p 500 dropped 48 down more senator cruz opened the cultural than 2%. the nasdaq plummeted 159 nearly attack on his own against donald trump going after something called new york values. 3.5%. back to "hardball." here he was yesterday on -- i welcome back to "hardball." we are continuing to follow the dramatic confrontation with iran get along with him somewhat. as ten american sailors were trump is using the theme song of detained overnight and then his campaign "born in the usa" released by military forces after drifting into its territorial waters. as an obvious dig of the man born in canada. iranian state television released footage of soldiers in >> what's he getting at there, senator cruz with "born in the camouflage pants and beige shirts with hands in the air.
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the video shows the sailors on the floor eating some kind of usa?" >> i think he will shift to playing new york, new york. meal. released footage of a u.s. the donald seems to be a little bit rattled. soldier apologizinapologizing. >> what does new york values >> it was a mistake. mean to anybody? that was our fault and we >> if you are in iowa it is like apologize for our mistake. not accessible, liberal, just not -- it is to make him unrelatable. >> we should note we do not know >> but it is day to day. if you are in new york you don't hunt. you don't go to church. the circumstance under which this video was shot and do not you don't cook your own meals. know if the sailors were asked those are things that people in to participate in the video iowa do. >> having worked in a political under duress. the images sparked quite the campaign in brooklyn there is not a possibility to walk into brooklyn and not see a church somewhere from any corner. reaction. here is marco rubio foospespeak a rally sblm. you made my point. you made your point. >> american sailors on their megyn kelly asked cruz what he knees, hands behind their head. meant by new york values last a female sailor forced to wear a head scarf, pinned up. night on fox? they know they can get away with
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it when barack obama is in office. >> the rest of the country knows they know they can humiliate us. in my first day in office i am what new york values are. going to cancel this ridiculous deal he has cut with iran. >> being tested by the cruz >> and here is donald trump on campaign because an iowa his network earlier -- this network earlier today. political science professor >> these ten wonderful soldiers asked questions whether he was a who went through hell, by the new york liberal. way. if donald trump's whole message when i see pictures of them with is i'm a winner, i'm strong, ted their arms up in the air and guns pointed at them i wouldn't cruz's message is i'm a say that is friendly. >> tonight's "hardball" round conservative who shares your values. this is his attempt to try to table, senior politics writer, distance himself from trump but do it soft enough to absorb president of the center and trump supporters if it comes to chief investigative reporter with politico. the point where one of them is ken, i'm not surprised. falling out of the race. >> it seems so small to go after this is just political dancing? somebody for new york values. why does he want to be the small we have an incident overseas and the opposition jumps on it as a candidate? sign of weakness. >> these two are locked in a >> it makes perfect sense very tight race. because they get to differentiate from the obama administration and they get to take a shot at hillary clinton on foreign policy, an area where
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she is strong, a lot stronger for the most part than most >>. south carolina governor nikki haley delivered the republicans. republican response last night she supported the iran deal. to the state of the union but her dig at donald trump got the they are suggesting the iran most attention. >> i am the proud daughter of deal exposed a weakness. ooeng that is a little bit of a indian immigrants who reminded my brothers, sisters and me how canard. iranians tested us for years. blessed we were to live in the >> for example you have chris country. today we live in a time of christie who did an interview threats. during anxious times it can be recently where after the problems we had with north korea tempting to follow the siren and he came out and said this is call of angriest voices. we must resist that temptation. hillary clinton/president obama problem because they have been no one willing to work hard, playing footsies with the abide by our laws and love our iranians instead of looking to see what is going on in north traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country. korea. so -- >> i thought that was well said. on the "today" show she said she >> you introduced even though sailors were released was talking about donald trump. republicans sounded like they >> i just want to be clear here are itching for a war. here he goes. >> you think it is coincidence? that when you were talking about the loudest, angriest voices you >> they have no respect for this were referring to donald trump, guy. they have no fear. correct? if we don't show people that you
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>> he was one of them. there are other people in the are willing to fight back they media, people in my state. we are seeing it across the will steal your lunch money country. every day. mr. trump has definitely >> i wonder what fighting with contributed to what i think is irresponsible talk. your guard would mean. >> trump responded on msnbc i don't know what they mean by today. fighting? >> none of these republicans are >> i'm very strong on illegal saying war and none are saying immigration. she is weak on illegal what they would have done. immigration. you don't hear we would have she is very weak on it and it is gone in and send troops. a problem. they are saying we would rip up the iran deal. very weak on illegal immigration it is all -- it wouldn't happen so therefore we have a if i was there. disagreement. that is basically the argument. she comes up to my office when she wants campaign contributions which is hard for really and i have given her tremendous contributions over the years. i guess now that i'm running she stomach. >> they liked it. doesn't like me as much. >> it's a layup for them. >> he has this formula. he checks his contribution list it happened at the time the and if they are on it he nails president was about to give his final state of the union address them as hypocrites. and they wanted to dumb down >> or checks poll numbers i'm everything that we think about hae in the polls in south obama. >> look at this. carolina. when you play that clip of nikki republicans telegraph their haley defending herself and outrage. doubling down on her statement before the outcome when word of the morning after i have a smile the incident first broke before on my face.
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the president's state of the i'm dplglad someone is saying te is more than one way. union the republican field pounced on it. >> he loves being attacked. jeb bush tweeted no more >> this is like the first state bargaining obama's humiliating of the union response that we weak policies is exposed again are talking about that is not a which was followed by a chorus disaster. it's actually like an of republican candidates. interesting conversation. >> the iranians like to taunt us >> that is the most salient because they don't have respect fact. for our leaders. usually they are behind where >> iran is testing the they start. >> this embodies the debate that boundaries of this administration's resolve. and they know the boundaries are the republican party is having. wide that the administration is i will be curious to see if she willing to let them get away backs down. with many things. she doesn't show signs that she you are only seeing this will. >> she was in an event today accelerate as long as a weak president like barack obama is where she said she stands by her in the white house. >> it is a manifestation of the speech. she is not backing down from weakness of president obama's that. foreign policy that our enemies i saw kristin tweeting last night about her response to do not fear us and we need a nikki haley's state of the commander in chief to keep this country safe. union. i find most striking donald >> every time i hear marco rubio trump was nowhere near washington yet all over i hear somebody sending a love washington and all anybody is talking about today from the letter to shelly addleson asking president to nikki haley to all of us. for more money. >> i think nikki haley is a rare it's just always the same.
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to the convention. >> welcome back to "hardball." senator bernie sanders says he we're back with "hardball." has what it takes to capture the michelle, tell me something. >> so hillary clinton might actually have something to worry democratic party's nomination about when we talk about the for president. new polls are showing he is women's vote. a couple days ago, debbie surging. in a poll hillary clinton is at wasserman schultz suggested that 48. women aren't that enchanted with sanders moved up to 41, within hillary clinton because they don't care about issues of striking distance. abortion. a month ago he was 20 back, and recently, nancy pelosi did 52-32. he has gone from 20 back to seven back in just a month. an interview and defended debbie in iowa sanders is ahead of wasserman schultz but added to clinton picking up nine points it's not the abortion issue. since last month. in new hampshire sanders is in the lead gaining eight points. it's on a variety of issues. clinton was asked this morning hillary clinton needs women and about the new numbers. she needs young men as well. >> good morning to you. >> ken? >> good morning, savannah. >> i'm hearing that some ted >> are you nervous? >> no i'm not nervous at all. cruz's closest allies are becoming increasingly frustrated with some of the mega donors i'm working hard and i intend to keep working as hard as i can supporting his super pac. two have collected $25 million. until the last vote or caucus these two super pacs. goer expresses an opinion. they're being run by the mega i'm excited about where we are. donors and their close allies >> joining me now is kristin and they haven't spent really any money. one has spent zero dollars and
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welker who is on the ground in the other has spent a quarter million dollars out of $15 new hampshire where bill clintb million it raised. has been campaigning. they're saying what are you waiting for, you need to spend that was a great question. the money now. but the mega donors, part the that was a gig. are you nervous? reason they were so enthusiastic about giving, not because they of course, your jaw tightens, support cruz, but also because the notion of are you nervous they could control the pac and now the people who set them up guarantees you will be nervous. that was a tough question. are wondering -- are the clinton people worried >> can't get them up on the phone because that's illegal. about the fact this guy is closing? >> i interviewed ted cruz on his >> it was a good question what is so fascinating is that campaign bus in iowa last week for 45 minutes. we talked about a range of everyone in team clinton seems topics that will be on u.s. news to be on message echoing what later tonight. i asked him, what about running you heard from secretary hillary clinton on the "today" show that mates. what's your first criteria -- they are not nervous and >> you're making me miserable. expected this. >> who do you look to? i just spoke with former >> go ahead. >> the first thing he said, i president bill clinton once he would look to my competitors. wrapped up his events here. who has run a good campaign i asked him are you nervous against me, and who has put about the poll numbers? together a good coalition. to me that says he would look at he said he is surprised that the poll numbers didn't get closer marco rubio. several weeks ago. >> trump. >> or maybe trump. but the first instinct, look at he said this is what happens in a campaign. the people who run against him. this is what happens in iowa and who has put together a good campaign. new hampshire. everyone is on message but the it shows organization, and who has put together coalition. it brings voters. >> they're going to call him the reality is look at their
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strategy changing. we have been talking about this cuban heels? for days, the fact that >> possibly. >> thank you for the worst news secretary clinton ramping up of the night. it could be true. and god awful. attacks against bernie sanders double down on the band. on the issue of guns and health michelle bernard, thank you. care. her campaign held a second ken fogel. when we return, let me finish conference call with reporters with that canadian anchor baby this week to go after bernie himself from alberta province. sanders. and then they have this all you're watching "hardball," the hands on deck approach sending place for politics. elf as more of a control... out her top surrogates, the former president and chelsea enusiast. clinton. president bill clinton has three mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. events here today. they are saying they are not and that's why this road warrior rents from national. nervous but their actions speak to a very different point which i can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. is that they are feeling the and i don't have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. heat and they know that they could afford a loss here in new and i don't. hampshire but not in iowa. and national lets me choose any car in the aisle. >> thank you so much reporting control. it's so, what's the word?... kristin welker. on tuesday chelsea clinton sexy. go national. go like a pro. daughter of the former president the possibility of a flare swas almost always on my mind. and secretary clinton came out against bernie sanders. thinking about what to avoid, >> senator sanders wants to where to go... dismantle obama care, dismantle and how to deal with my uc.
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chip program, dismantle medicare to me, that was normal. and private insurance. until i talked to my doctor. senator sanders wants to devolve she told me that humira helps people like me the authority to set up state get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications health insurance programs to haven't worked well enough. individual state governors. humira can lower your ability to >> sanders has a lot of momentum fight infections, including tuberculosis. with younger voters. serious, sometimes fatal infections is chelsea the clinton ant dote. and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, joining us now is joan walsh. i want you to take over on this. serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. i think kristin welker said it to a t. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where when you start shooting the guns certain fungal infections are common, out the window someone is and if you've had tb, attacking. i love her coming on the show. hepatitis b, are prone to infections, she is making the rounds heavily or have flu-like symptoms or sores. and deploying her daughter in an don't start humira if you have an infection. raise your expectations. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. aggressive role. not as my mother is great but with humira, control is possible. nailing the other guy is unusual. >> i don't know that it is that unusual. it was going to tighten once people were paying attention in january. iowa is a great state for bernie sanders. it is heavily white, 90 something percent white. lots of college students. they can caucus this time around
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which they couldn't do easily for barack obama. they never expected this to be a cake walk. when her numbers went way high after vice president biden said he wasn't going to get in they thought that was a fluke. i don't see anything that weird about what they are doing. [ scanner beeping ] i think i love senator sanders. let's figure out how single sir, could you step aside? payer would work. "sir"? come on. you know who i am. >> how do you attack a guy for being too left or too progressive insurance? complicated? uh, i save people an average of over $500 when they switch? all i see is they are attacking but i don't get the message of did you pack your own bags? the attack. >> they are not attacking him oh! right -- the name your price tool. it shows people policy options to help fit their budget. [ scanner warbling ] from the left but from the crazy that a big shot like me would pack his own bags, right? right. they went after him for saying [ chuckles ] so, do i have the right to remain handsome? they would raise taxes. [ chuckles ] wait. those are both progressive. uh-oh. we have a journalistic responsibility to say a lot of what chelsea clinton said was misleading. she has been a fan of universal health care and she encouraged democrats not to fight over it for her to turn on him suggests she is a little bit.
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>> she is for public option. >> most democrats are for public option. is it complicated and costly? of course. those are things they have to have it out on. what chelsea clinton said on the segment -- >> bernie sanders is clever. why don't he say are you or are you not for single payer? >> he tweeted a picture of hillary clinton thanking him for his long time support for universal health care. >> i have to say, sam, i think when hillary clinton does something that is just political she gets so much crap for it that other people don't get. sfwl i would give bernie crap for this because bernie sanders said he would put out the pay force for his single payer plan. today he said they might not come before the iowa caucus. i'm not trying to pick on one let me finish tonight with person or the other. you have the responsibility to that canadian anchor baby from say why is she attacking bernie alberta province. sanders for single payer health here's the lay of the land.
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care. there is not much room. >> my daughter is in college. she tells me everybody in her were ted cruz actually elected, he would be the first u.s. own camp is for bernie. president born outside this country. in other words, from abroad. is that going on right now in the campuses? does this raise the question >> as you know my daughter works among american conservatives this would violate the for hillary. requirement of the founding she is a fly in that theory. fathers that to be eligible for the white house, you must be a she is working with college students and seeing a lot of natural-born citizen? let me put it to the republicans people feeling the burn. it is great. of iowa. they are getting people into was it or was it not the intents this process. of those who wrote the the idea that there are not constitution in independence young people in particularly hall back in 1789 that young women who are passionate about hillary clinton -- presidents be born in this country? and if so, wouldn't the >> i feel a return of what inauguration of a foreign-born happened many years ago. it is so crystal clear what happened to me. the democrats had a really solid be a strict violation of that intention? and don't those who answer no front runner for the nomination who say it's not a violation of the founders' intent have some against nixon. explaining to do? now, he is forgotten pretty much are you listening in iowa? now. he was a solid front runner. are the teachers listening, are the home-schooling parents listening. isn't this a tricky lesson to he was lincoln-esc. teach our people. that what the writers of the along comes george montgomery u.s. constitution clearly from the left and killed him. intended should be dismissed. i thought conservatives believed so already running from -- very in the strict reading of our founding documents, especially
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the constitution, which binds hard for a center left democrat the states together. like hillary clinton to defend and don't justice antonin scalia against the left when that is where the action is. >> i think the tricky part for know who follow him who believe hillary clinton is this which is that if she attacks bernie sanders it comes off as in original intent that when the desperation. founders said natural-born, they he is not supposed to be on her meant just that. and why i have to ask people who believe so religiously and stature. >> so then -- i think the one solemnly that the right to bear arms means just that. thing i disagree with is that now flircnch from reading hillary has this advantage which she is a historic candidate. natural-born to mean just that. so i put it to the good so that was complicated because republicans of iowa, the obama was this way. question. do you believe in the united at this juncture i wouldn't rule states constitution or is it a out the possibility that a lotf reference guide to be used when people when they go to vote helpful and convenient, left in the drawer at the public library when it gets between you and think about that and say do i want to pass the ballot -- picking the right wing candidate now at the top of your political >> you think that is salient shopping list. it's getting near time to vote right now? >> polls go up and down all the for the constitution or what it time. once you get to the ballot and quite clearly says quite you have to make the decision i clearly, or ignore what al gore calls an inconvenient truth. do think that is a motivating and pick the guy from calgary, alberta province, canada. factor. >> once you get to the caucuses and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us.
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which involve neighbors -- >> gender can be helpful to "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. hillary if employed at the right tonight on "all in." time. >> that's why we need to reject if you say gender then he grabs the other issues while you are any politics that targets people because of race or religion. talking gender. >> striking back at the politics you is to compete on the issues of fear. and at the last minute. >> mr. trump has definitely if you have to make a tough call contributed to what i think is why not go with history. just irresponsible talk. >> thank you. >> tonight, how donald trump is i'm thinking about this. coming up republicans up to responding to his state of the their elbows in alligators. union rebuke. the suspicious origins of ted many in the establishment want to stop trump. cruz's new attack. is he a better candidate for the >> i have no idea what calls are made to whom. party than senator cruz? >> and might interview with i will speak with one of the top senator rand paul. >> we need to be careful of minds haley barbour next. letting the voice of the republican party be someone who this is "hardball," place for politics. thinks that all immigrants are rapists or drug dealers. then, 20 days from iowa, bernie takes the lead. >> no, i'm not nervous at all. why blend in with the crowd? >> and there are shades of 2008 in the new clinton attack on why shy away from the extraordinary? bernie sanders. >> senator sanders wants to why fit in, when you were born to stand out? the 2016 nissan altima has arrived.
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as conservative columnist wrote trump is disruptive force and if his coalition holds together it could make unlikely outcomes. cruz as the most right wing nominee since goldwater. far more plausible than without him. if the establishment is panicking reince priebus is trying not to show it. he said if donald trump or ted cruz wins the nomination he is sure the entire party will rally behind them. >> right now the two leaders in the poll by far are trump and cruz. some establishment people hate them. do you believe in your heart that you are going to be able to pull the party together if they win? >> 100%. the unifying thing about what i have to do is no matter who you are for everyone can agree we have to have a national party and infrastructure that has its act together. i talked to all of our leaders in our party. everyone is going to get behind
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whoever the winner is. >> i'm joined by former mississippi governor haley barbour who served as chair on the committee. i have a question and you probably won't want to answer it. can either major political party deny nomination to the candidate with the most delegates? is it possible to have a broker convention and deny the delegate leader the nomination? >> i don't think that that will happen. i think it is unlikely that that we have a convention where there is no majority. if it is a contested convention most likely the person with the most delegates who gets there without a majority will ultimately win. not impossible but very implausible. >> what is the talk about a brokered convention if it isn't to deny trump the nomination if it is short of a majority? >> i think it is a news media
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invention, just a fairytale. there is nobody that can broker a convention. i went to the last convention and participated in the last contested convention, 1976. ford and reagan very close. neither had a majority. it can happen that you go to a convention and there is still more than two candidates. three or four candidates. that makes it more complicated. the idea that there is somebody that can broker the convention is baloney. our nominee is going to be picked by the voters and the primaries and caucuses and if nobody gets the majority those people selected by them will work that out. i think the most likely outcome is we'll get there and somebody will have the votes. >> last time on the show you said this about trump's chances of winning the republican
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nomination. you think trump could win the nomination? >> could, of course he could. american people can pick whoever they want to. do i think he will? i think it is unlikely. >> what is the number right now? unlikely, plausible? >> i think it is unlikely. i don't think any of our candidates because it is a very large field. i don't think anybody has a 50% chance of winning the nomination right now. it is going to shake out. people are going to do well, not do as well. as the field gets smaller and this was an enormous field and is still a large field. i' say today that nobody who has 50% or better odds, nobody. >> what do you make of the way it seems to work that somebody wins in iowa and then somebody comes back and almost like new hampshire says let's get even with what happened in iowa? it seems such a pattern. we can imagine cruz not nicking
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it out over trump and then to the rubber match in south carolina. there is a pretty strong pattern now, isn't there? >> it happened very often. it's not very often that somebody wins both iowa and new hampshire. and in this race it is a large field and the willowing out process apparently is beginning very late. when you have an extraordinary large field and late we may be much later than normal shaking out and seeing where we are going to be. i want to say something about what reince priebus said. what is going to unite republicans is republicans know our country can't stand four more years of what barack obama has been doing and republicans believe hillary clinton or bernie sanders either one will be a third term barack obama or worse because they're running to the left of his record if you can believe that. >> here is a sugar plum for you,
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governor. i have been asking this of debbie wassermann schultz and candidates like hillary clinton herself. nobody will give me the answer on the center left or left side. what is the difference in your schooling politically between a democrat and a socialist? >> there was a day, chris, when that was clear. when i got to know you and you worked for speaker o'neil and i worked for president reagan there was a huge difference. today i can't tell you the difference. and here is the number -- number two and surging candidate for the democratic nomination is a self-proclaimed socialist and she gaining ground every day and the person we thought was going to be crowned the democratic nominee is running towards socialism as fast as her feet will take her. >> what do you think would be the result if the democrats did nominate?
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er -- nominate senator sanders? how would you employ that in the
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