we're listening to donald trump. >> it guarantees 100% guarantees the election of the democrat. that means the appointment of supreme court judges, three, four or five. that is a total wipeout for conservatives and for republicans. so start thinking about that. start thinking about it. this was just an exciting time. i'm having a lot of fun. i have to tell you that ted, i was watching him and congratulations on the two

states, ted, but he was saying that donald trump has a ceiling of 35 to 40%. well, cnn just came out with a poll two days ago that said i have 49% compared to his 15%. so i guess it's not 40. i mean, i have a 49% number. some of the polls are showing over 50% and i don't even think they're accurate. i've won many polls, as you know, against hillary clinton directly, and i'm the only one that's going to beat her. if she's allowed to run. i'm the only one that's going to beat her. the only one, remember that. and i am the one person, the one person, trust me, that she does not want to run against. we on had one little skirmish and that was four weeks ago and that was not pleasant for her and bill. but i'm the one person and i'm

really ashamed of the press because they got it wrong. they didn't give me any credit, when she went like this, remember when she was beating bernie easily and four weeks ago, all of a sudden bernie was doing great. you know why? because she went down. you know why? because of my skirmish. and i got no credit. please give me some credit for that, okay? so i look forward to that race. and again, i haven't really done anything with hillary. we haven't started on hillary except for the one moment four weeks ago. i heard hillary today and i watched her statement tonight and her statement is make america whole. that's a terrible statement. make america whole. i think she means we're in a hole, we're in a deep hole and

we're trying to dig our way out. we owe $19 trillion. and if that's the kind of promotional ability we have on the other side, our country's in big trouble. make america whole. no. make america great again. that's what mine is. make america great again. so this has been a very exciting evening. again, i just have to thank the people of louisiana, the people of kentucky, you're amazing and i will never, ever forget it. i was in louisiana last night and we had a group of people in an airplane hangar, this massive hangar and you couldn't even get them in. this was a seriously big hangar for very, very big planes. i landed, got out, walked into the hangar, there were thousands and thousands of people and it was incredible. and same thing a few days ago in kentucky. we had a rally that was incredible. and today's rally in orlando, florida, nobody's seen anything

like it. and they're writing about it. they're saying they've never seen anything like it in the history of politics in this country they have never seen anything like it. it was so reported even in the "new york times" today on the front page. people have never, ever seen anything like it in the history of politics in the united states. it's a movement. so i just want to thank all of my friends, all of my members, all of my everything. you have been so supportive, so great, and you're very, very special people. thank you. and with that, if you'd like, you know the press is among the most dishonest people ever created by god, so i would love to take a few questions from these dishonest people. go ahead, press. go. john? john scarpa, everybody. >> reporter: firemen and policemen would love to see you speak in jacksonville at the convention in april. >> okay. if can i do it, i'll do it.

john scarpa, everybody. >> yes, sir, go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i love you as a reporter. where have you been? this is the greatest guy. lyin' ted, he holds up the bible and they puts it down and he lies. i never saw a man that lies as much. what he did to ben carsons a disgrace. and actually me. had he not gotten those ben carson votes, i would have won iowa, too. i would have had everything. what he did frankly, voter violation on a form that looked like it came right out of a government agency, voter violation, and the only way you get rid of the violation essentially is by going and voting for ted cruz. did you ever see this?

and people did that because they were afraid. it was terrible. it was a very fraudulent thing. he's done a lot of bad things. ben carson is a great guy. he's a great, great guy. i thought that was a disgrace. he said basically ben carson's out of the race, come on, vote for me. he knew it was happening. but i do think this -- i do think that ted is at least moving along okay. but marco has to get out of the race. has to. because despite what ted said, oh, do i want to run against just ted. that will be easy. david, go ahead. >> reporter: you have a record on -- for ted cruz to exploit, especially regarding what supreme court justices you might appoint. can you say quickly what is your

position on gay marriages and same-sex -- >> i've made it very strong. we have policy on it and i've said it very, very strongly and i think you know it. and it all done -- i mean, how many times do i have to say it? it's like, david, it's like as an example, what is my position on 900 different things? i've said it 150 times. we're not here for discussing that. but everybody knows how i feel on it. >> reporter: i don't. what is your position? >> david, sit down, please. sit down. you know my position. yes, go ahead. john, go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> it's what it should be. because we're the only two that are winning. by the way, he keeps saying about i am the one that beats donald trump. i've been beating him almost 3-1. and on super tuesday i got a million votes more than marco, and half a million votes more

than ted. that's a lot of votes. go ahead, john. >> reporter: he said in a head-to-head matchup, he will win -- >> oh, he'll not win. no, no, he's not going to win. and you know what, he can't win. and he's not going to win something else. i'd love to have a head-to-head matchup with him in florida, as an example, and ohio. but in new york, he's not going to get very many votes. in new jersey and pennsylvania and ohio, he's just not going to get very many votes. i would like to see it. i would like marco to drop out from the standpoint -- look at how he did tonight. he's in third and fourth. somebody was nice enough to say that even when i don't win a state, i always come in second. that's a big thing. marco's come in fourth. and i think it's time for marco to clean the deck, i do. and i say that respectfully.

>> reporter: [ no audio ] [ inaudible ]. >> i wanted to go to kansas. i did develop well considering i spent literally an hour there, a very small time. i've been to c-pac, i respect matt a great deal. i hated to cancel but i really am doing something that's very important. the people that are at cpac for the most part rbt campaigning. had i not gone to kansas this morning, i would not have done as well as i did pip came in second place. so it was a very important thing. >> john, go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> afraid? i've taken more questions from reporters than any human being that's ever lived. give me a break. no, i don't care.

i was hearing matt said today and it was very interesting, i was hearing matt say i didn't like the format. i would rather speak for 30 minutes but i hate when you speak for 10 or 15 minutes and then you're interrupted and then you sit down. i've done that three times now pip would rather speak. with you if somebody wants to ask me in the case of dana or the case of sean hannity or any of them, would i love to do that. this was simply a fact that i wanted to campaign. and i'm campaigning. very few people are campaigning. and i'm very happy i did it and i met a lot of great people in kansas. mr. phil ruffin, who is one of the most successful people in the united states really worked hard in kansas and i felt i owed it to him and a lot of people there this morning. >> reporter: [ inaudible ].

>> reporter: the family of bob levenson held a rally. what about bob? the government of iran knows where he is or they know and they're not saying. what would you do, sir, if you become president in a scenario where an american disappears in that part of the world under mysterious circumstances, what is the trump white house policies on that? >> we would want to get to the bottom of it. i think our weakness in dealing with iran has been us precedented. the facts had we gave them $150 billion and they're a terrorist state. they bought 115 planes from airbus, not from any company from this country. they gave us nothing. i will get down to the bottom of

that. please give his family my regards. i think they know where he is one way or the other, i think they absolutely know where he is. and if i'm elected president, i will get to the bottom of it, okay? >> go ahead. >> reporter: what about these scuffles that keep breaking out at your campaign rally? don't you have some responsibility to -- >> i have nothing to do with it. when you have 25,000 people in a building, today we had to send away so many thousands of people, we couldn't get them in. when you have that many people, if you have four or five people or ten people stand up out of 22,000 that are in this building that i'm speaking to, a very great entertainer said, donald, you're the biggest draw in the world without a guitar, which is sort of an interesting -- i won't tell you -- i won't tell you that was the great elton john, i will not tell you that. but somebody did make that statement. when you have that many people,

you understand, in a room and you'll have a couple of not skirmishes, just a couple of protests, and we treat them very gently. ten years ago they would have been treated differently not by me but by that's the way life is. we treat them very, very gently. we had a few protesters today but very few. if you look at them as a percentage, 1/100th -- bernie sanders, two young ladies came up and took the microphone from him and he walked meekly away. i said isn't that pathetic, isn't that said?

>> reporter: [ inaudible ]. [ crowd boos ] >> this is the problem with reporters. somebody else, not me, somebody else, marco brought it up. no, i didn't bring it up. somebody else said "donald trump has small hands." these guys know i hit a ball 208 yards. stand up, my club champions. do i hit the ball good? do i hit it long? is trump strong? huh? so look, so i just simply held up the hands. these are very strong hands and they're fairly large actually. it was interesting. you shouldn't even be bringing this up to be honest with you, but it was very interesting because the day after he said that i'm shaking hands with people and everybody's saying, wow, you have strong hands, you have very big hands.

what happened is marco made it up out of nowhere because he's a politician and politicians high and they say bad things. and if you don't call them out for it, you are don't. i didn't bring it up, here brought it up but i finished it. and i'll tell you about marco, it very interesting. marco attacked me viciously a week ago, two weeks ago. so far every person that's attacked me has gone down. look at his numbers tonight. he cannot hold one of those phony rallies where he did well because he did really badly. he's not going to stand up tonight and talk about how well he did in iowa where he was in third place and he acted like he won. i agree with ted on that. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i'd love it to be. here's the story, i would love it to be at the high level pip will be the most presidential candidate in history other than honest abe lincoln. he was very tough to beat. abe lincoln, he was serious. but when i get attacked by these

people at a low level, i have to attack back. i can't stand. some people say you're above it, and i said i can't stand it, it's not me. i'll never do that for our country either. go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i'm totally denouncing and any hate group, no good with donald trump. any hate group. i didn't know that actually, but if you're telling me, i will believe it. i totally denounce, okay? >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i will help the party fund raise, yes. i'm not looking for funds for myself. i'm totally self-funding my campaign. but i don't want any money for

myself. go ahead. >> reporter: is there the possibility of -- >> no, i'm not. i think we'll win before the convention. i think we'll win before. you know, i've sponsored a lot of sporting event and the fight verse a great expression. when they go into a city or town where it's an unfriendly town, they think we're going to win, he says the only way we guarantee victory is to knock them out. the way i guarantee victory is to get enough delegates so i don't have to worry did it. if you think about it like the prize fighters do, that's -- we're going to do very well in florida. louisiana and kentucky tonight were the two big ones. maine we did well in maine, really well in maine but it was much smaller than louisiana, kentucky, kansas was also smaller and we came in second in both. we won louisiana and kentucky. they were the big ones, okay?

>> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> so the question was asked about waterboarding and water boarding is a very, very touchy subject. it was original lily asked two debates ago to ted cruz. and he didn't want any part of that question. and they asked me. and i said i'm totally in favor of waterboarding and if i can, i'd like to do much more than that. just so you understand, we're playing by a different set of rules than isis and others, especially in the middle east. we're playing by a different set of rules beep ha. we have laws and rules and regulations. they have nothing. they chop off people's heads, they drown people in massive steel cages. they drop the cage for one hour, they lift it up and there are 30

dead people. so here's the story. i will obey the laws but i will try and get the laws extended. i will try and get the laws broadened because we should be able allowed because it very hard to be successful in beating someone when your rules are very soft and their rules are unlimited, they can do whatever they want to do. and i want to play -- look, we're going to rebuild our military. we're going to knock out isis so violently and so fast. they chop off heads, they do things that we haven't seen since medieval times and we're worried about waterboarding. wait, wait, wait, sit down, let me just tell you. excuse me. so i want to stay within the laws and right now we have the laws. but i want to make those laws stronger so that we can better compete with a vicious group of

animals, okay? yes, go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i think we're going to do great. i think we have a 20-point lead in florida or something like that. go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> well, look, mitt romney was a failed candidate. he was a terrible candidate. he choked. he choked, absolutely choked as bad as i've ever seen other than marco when chris christie was grilling him. that was a big choke also. i thought he was going to collapse. i was stand beiing right next t him. i was getting ready to hold him up with these very powerful hands, okay? that was a collapse -- that was a joke. but mitt romney choked. as a candidate he choked. he knows how i feel. when he was thinking of getting

into the race seven months ago, eight months ago, i said you cannot let -- it's too important. i said you cannot let mitt romney in this race. he's a choker. you know through sports, i can tell you i have some great sportsmen right here. when you see somebody choke generally speaking, once a choker, always a choker. now mitt romney gave that election away. that was an election against a failed president that should have been easily won. mitt romney didn't work hard that last month, he disappeared. and say what you want about president obama, he was on jay leno, he was on david latermaet, he was all over the place. and where was mitt romney? we're still looking for him. if he would have devoted the same energy and time to winning the presidency four years ago as he is now on trying to destroy our party and the unity of our party, he would have won that election and we wouldn't have had the problems that we have

right now. so, ladies and gentlemen, i want to thank you all. this has been amazing. it's very exciting and i look forward to seeing you many times in the near future. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. >> of course that's donald trump in west palm beach florida tonight. he's the winner tonight in the louisiana republican primary and also the republican caucuses of kentucky. mark halperin, that was subdued by his standards. >> not the same type of performance as on tuesday night after his big wins on super tuesday. >> how is it different? >> he was more subdued. i thought the insults were less kind of primal, they seemed a little built more forced and he called for rubio to get out of the race. up until now he has not tried to clear the race -- >> what is that about?

he just likes to knock people out? >> i think so. i don't know that it's in his interest to have rubio out of the race. my sense is he's better off with rubio in the race. rubio's won one state, trump's won 12, cruz has won six. i think that although you can make an argument that a cruise/kasich/trump, you could make an argument in a cruise/kasich/trump case, you can make an argument he would have a harder time -- if had hubio got out of the race soon, i think cruz could make a run at him if florida because it's a closed primary. >> what about all the northeastern states, pennsylvania, ohio, new jersey,

new york, connecticut. those state don't seem like cruz country to me. >> one thing that's been tested a little bit in the last few days is but i could see -- if cruz why wr going after trump thought they could hurt trump with negative ads, you could see lots of money spent against trump. >> but could cruz win a state like new jersey? >> only if the negative works. we talked about jesse jackson, jr. in a three-way trum with. >> it's like new jersey, new york, connecticut, california on the west coast. i think it's just as simple as this -- i think trump looks at he wants to win florida. and although i agree that some combination of anti-trust money

plus cruz could make him competitive. who do you want to fight, ted cruz or marco rubio? i think trump says get rubio out of this race and let me try to then beat kasich in hai ohio an have a one-on-one with ted cruz. he thinks that cruz's best states are out of the way now so why not want cruz one-on-one? >> it seems to me that trump, if he wanted to run a really tough campaign against rubio says we gave you one job, you didn't show up. just hit him on not showing. just nail him on that. >> if trump wins ohio, michigan

and florida, i think the race is pretty much over. if he can get the florida senator out of the race, i think he's saying you are underestimating what ted cruz with money could do against trump in some of these states but i think trump sees the possibility of ending this thing a week from tuesday and it it s looking to do that. but he was subdued today. again, if he listened to advice, i think people would be telling him your performance at the debate was not helpful. >> you came into this night, there was an assumption that donald trump would win kentucky easily, that's what the polling said, and this he would win louisiana easily. we saw a very chose race in kentucky. in indiana, he got beat. if it wasn't for the early vote for trump, he wouldn't have been able to win louisiana. >> he had a terrible week coming into this. >> i'm saying, you ask why he's subdued. in some ways -- he had a

relatively weak night tonight. a win is a win. if i was trump, i'd be subdued tonight, too. he had a bad week and it got reflected in actual vote totals. >> here's another reason he might want rubio out. rubio's been going after him personally. trump now if he stays above the fray probably is the nominee. so to get the guy out of the race who is bringing him down into the mud -- >> how many more debates he has to deal with? that's when rubio could get to him. >> two. >> you got one in miami next week and one that's supposed to happen in utah toward the end of march. >> so he'd like to get him out before this week? >> the argument that cruz wants to -- i thif trump believes -- he may be wrong but trump believes an ideological -- what.

>> i think hillary clinton thinks the same exact thing. they want to run against cruz. >> they'd much rather -- >> trump also thinks cruz is too unlikable to win. >> i look at the clustering and i see the clustering in the southeast, i would bet on mississippi to go to trump. but i would look at the spine in the country, the evangelical, i see cruz winning there. >> john kasich is not a strong candidate. but if he's on the move on tuesday, john kasich can be a real factor -- >> i think he becomes the kennedy in the northeast.

he's like a lot of northeastern people, background, catholic background, the whole thing from pennsylvania. it the ultimate state to be from. >> all those pennsylvanians. >> all due respect, the name of the program at 6 p.m., stay with it after when it's over. >> still ahead, the major contest coming up right away. we're going to look ahead to the next ten days. michigan just three days away. msnbc's live election coverage continues after this. ♪

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the dogs bark and the caravan moves forward. ahead in the contest, big states like michigan, a real state i like to say, this tuesday coming up. florida, a state that represents so many of the country and ohio is one state they must win. let's talk about michigan. because it -- kasich, i don't mind saying i like -- if kasich wins there, he might actually be a candidate to beat trump. >> if he wins there -- >> if he starts rolling it up in the northeast. >> i don't think he'll catch trump on the numbers, but it will force it into a contested convention at that point. he will go into the ability to go into the convention and effectively compete and really become the candidate for the status quo, if you will.

>> who is the last republican to try to take it into the convention to try to get it in the convention? i think it's 1976 and it's ronald reagan. that's how dishonorable the try to take it to the convention effort is in the republican party. >> it didn't get past the first ballot. >> it's not something that hasn't been in play before. >> i think swieker, the running mate idea. >> let's go to kornacki. >> the delegate count, we're still tallying it. donald trump about 52, rubio back at 20, kasich at 8 we have right now. that could change a little bit. but the story tonight looking ahead is what we saw in louisiana. there is a huge disparity in louisiana between the votes that were cast today, ted cruz was

winning those votes it looks like and the votes that were cast in early voting where donald trump had a huge advantage. trump wins louisiana overall but that is a sign that maybe the vote is coalescing around ted cruz as the alternative. when you look forward, what are the implip capital gaications o forward? we were thinking that mississippi based on what we'd seen in this part of the state is a trump state. i think you now have to take a real look at mississippi. is this a state where ted cruz could coalesce the anti-trump and beat trump there? also michigan, we're talking tonight about the difference between open and closed primaries, trump doing much worse in republican-only environments. the bad news for trump, michigan is officially a closed primary state. the good news is that term closed primary doesn't mean the

same in every state. what it means in michigan is if you're a voter and you want to participate in the republican primary, you have to show up at the polls on tuesday and you fill out a form that declares yourself a republican. however, it is a nonbinding declaration. so you do not become a member of the republican party. eight pie it's a piece of paper you have to fill out but there is a way for nonrepublicans to participate. we're all looking ahead to the 15th. and the other question with trud, we're seeing it against, the disparity we talked about in louisiana, it was marco rubio collapsing. it looked like a lot of rubio support went away from him and went to cruz. we talked so much about florida being a must-win state for marco rubio. marco rubio is playing catch up for donald trump right now. we know that ted cruz is making a serious campaign push in florida. it raises the question could ted

cruz cost marco rubio florida and knock marco rubio out of this race? ted cruz still believes his best path to the nomination is not a crowded field, a divide and conquer strategy with a bunch of candidates trying to top trump in different parts of the country. he believes a one-on-one could be going into florida trying to eat into marco rubio's support and if that means trump wins the state, so be it, rubio would be out of the race and trump could get that one-on-one he's looking for. >>. >> let's begin with "time" magazi magazine's washington correspondent jane newton. i look and i see know threat. i thit the past. i think he's done what he could in terms of damage. i look at states across the

south. mississippi looks like a trump state to me. i don't see cruz winning ohio or illinois. your thoughts? >> i don't know. i think i have to disagree with you a little bit. tonight's voting, you saw cruz surprisingly win kansas and maine. as steve kornacki was saying, he did much better than expected in late breaking votes. he was up 21 points. so if there is this cruz surge going on and there is this sense -- if he can get the establishment to coalesce around him as well as the anti-trump votes to coalesce around him, he makes this point that donald trump has never broken 50% in any one of these contests. so if you take all of the anti-trump votes -- >> how many primaries has ted cruz won as of tonight?

>> six as of tonight. >> primaries. real elections in other words. >> texas and that's it. >> and oklahoma, right? >> oklahoma, yeah. >> so this is the guy's formidable opponent to donald trump. he's won two primaries. how do you see that, jay? >> again, it's about momentum, it's about surge. it's not about how strong ted cruz it but how week donald trump is. >> but you can go in the northeast or the midwest to somebody who seems like you, like kasich, you know. it doesn't steam like that's the only -- you can go to rubio if you're desperate and you're from florida. >> that's entirely possible, too. >> i'm betting against cruz. but i'm also interviewing you so i shouldn't be challenging what you're saying. >> i am saying that cruz has momentum. that's what i'm saying right now that we'll see. >> i don't think so. >> let me go to heidi. >> let me take a little bit of a different take on that. i think that cruz had a good

night and i think that what could happen from here is that he could use that good night to make some marginal inroads in some of these states that might create a path, let's say, let's take michigan, for example, for kasich doing better in some of these states. the reason why i say this, chris, if you look at the returns in kentucky, there was something that really stuck out at me and that was that ted cruz did very well in some of these border areas with ohio. and those are areas that are very similar in michigan. so if cruz kind of takes away some of trump's late breakers in michigan, i think that probably helps kasich. so it isn't so much a ted cruz sushlgi surging story as it is ted cruz potentially making a pathway here for kasich, who we weren't betting on at all.

>>perry, juryour thoughts. how does this shake out now? >> tonight was very interesting. you had an important event where you had mitt romney say on thursday, fellow republicans, you cannot vote for donald trump, he would be a bad president. you had four states today, donald trump underperformed. so trump did not do well today. so you go forward on tuesday, you have michigan and mississippi. i think the demographics of those states are pretty good for donald trump. if the tend trins and trum struggles, then i think we know he's sort of headed in a good direction and he's probably going to win this snom nation still. >> jake, ne, go back and reemphe

your point. i want to you have the last word. >> i would agree with perry. as i said earlier, a lot of this isn't necessarily cruz's strength but it is donald trump east weakness. whether it's cruz that benefits as you argued or heidi argued or marco rubio, as rubio's campaign is arguing he'll win florida, whoever wins, it makes you question whether donald trump will get 1,237 delegates, and if he can't do this, then this race is wide open all the way to the convention. >> jane, do you believe in luck? >> do i, actually. >> i think trump is lucky, and lucky to get ted cruz, the least liked opponent on the planet. >> msnbc's live election coverage continues after this. stick with us.

i would like marco to drop out from the standpoint that i think marco -- look how he did tonight. he's in third and fourth. somebody was nice enough to say, even when i don't win a state, i always come in second. that's a big thing. marco's come in fourth. so i think it's time for marco to clean the deck, i do. and i say that respectfully. >> okay, lawrence, where are we at? >> he doesn't say anything respectfully. because the media is now defining deviancy down to the point where some people think this was considered a decent press conference tonight, this was a press conference in which a presidential candidate bafoon spent significant amount of time talking about the size of his hands and getting a golf pro in

the audience to certify that he is big and strong and that he hits the ball long. that was a significant portion of his press conference. he was asked a policy question about marriage equality in this country. what did he do with it? he did what vladamir putin would do, he refused to answer it. he ordered the reporter to sit down. that's what the media is taking to be, oh, that was presidential night for trump. this is the most absurdist candidacy we've ever seen. there's a moment where he says -- where he's talking about criticizing marco rubio and he says, people have said to me, come on, you're above it. you shouldn't do that. and he said, that's not me. so here we have this presidential candidate saying, i am not above petty, silly, foolish attacks on people. i'm a small person, and i'm going to keep it small. and the media says, hey, nice

job, donald. >> let me ask you about the new idea here, which is not divide and conquer, he now seems to want to get rubio out. and maybe that's smart, but i don't see why it matters at this point, because i don't think any of these guys are going to beat him. >> i've been thinking about it, i don't think it's so much a real push by donald to get rubio out. i think he's tweaking him, doing the small ball thing saying, you need to go now, you need to go. you're done. you're in fourth place. with all due respect, you're done. so i don't think there's this desire to get him out of the race -- >> ignore what he's saying. >> i think it's more -- at the end of the day he needs rubio in this race, at least through florida.

>> maybe rubio wants to be out before florida. amanda, what do we know about rubio and this push to excuse him from the scene by trump? >> well, one thing tonight isn't great for him because all of florida can start early voting today. and a lot of people really don't want to vote for a loser. so as you head into the florida primary on march 15, people are watching how he did tonight. there are people who like rubio who will turn out for him, but there are a lot of questions raised against him, is he viable against donald trump and hillary clinton? so tonight could hurt rubio going into his home state. >> he's going to go a number of days without his name in the headlines or the front lead story. he won't win in michigan or mississippi. he's not won anything today. so he will find himself going into his home state with nothing that shows he's still in the race except his paid advertising. >> right. increasingly, it looks like it's

cruz and donald trump. donald trump the polls and vote right now ahead of the actual primary date. >> when did voting start down there? what day was it? today? >> it started for some counties a little earlier but it started today. >> we'll be right back with more on super tuesday. stick with us.

welcome back to msnbc. for the democrats, bernie sanders won two states and hillary clinton took the primary in louisiana. let's bring in steve kornacki. >> sometimes there's such a thing as winning, even when you lose. that is the story with hillary

clinton tonight. this is a massacre. bernie sanders beat her by a better than 2-1 margin. when you look at the delegates, there were 33 being awarded in this caucus tonight. bernie sanders is going to get a margin in kansas of about 13. he's going to gain about a net total of 13 delegates over hillary clinton. there's only about 33 up for grabs. he's going to get a net gain of 13 there. in nebraska, solid sanders win. we think there's going to be a net gain of about three delegates. louisiana. we talked about hillary clinton overpowering strength with black voters. clearly that was at play here. there were 51 delegates in the primary today that were up for grabs, we think she's going to gain 27, a net gain of 27. you add those all together, hillary clinton walked into the night with a lead of 195 delegates in the pledge delegate count, 195. she lost two caucus tonight and

she'll leave with 206. she gained is 1, even while losing 2 of 3. >> that's not bad. i like primaries better than caucuses anyway. >> there's been one poll in california that's about two months old. ted cruz was in the lead over donald trump. it might be that just ted cruz and i know about that poll. >> no, a lot of people know. >> it's the field poll, the most important poll in california. cruz is looking at that. bernie sanders, people like that at looking at new york and new jersey thinking, wait a minute, there's giant delegates way down the road there. there's reason for me to hang on to see how i can do way down the calendar.

>> former chairman? >> i think tonight was clearly an opportunity for the two front-runners, you can say, in one sense between cruz and trump to make their move. they made their moves but kasich is still in that position where he can come in. he's trying to get in the slip stream so he can just ride himself over the next few days. michigan looms even larger after tonight than probably it did before. >> you both think you're placing a bigger bet on kasich than rubio. >> oaks -- oh, yeah, absolutely. >> 2 bucks on kasich, 50 cents on rubio? >> thank you very much. steve kornacki, i'm joined in washington -- well, actually i'm not. that's it for us. i'll see you monday night for "hard ball" at 7:00 eastern. good night.

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