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dreams she said she found her greatest role as his wife. >> i think i was born to be married. i was the happiest girl in the world when i became we. >> reporter: they married in 1952, a simple ceremony and appeared together in "hellcats of the navy." >> you knew better. >> how could i know? did you give me a post dated check? >> reporter: from them on by her own description her life was devoted to her husband as mother to their two children and as step mother to his two children by former wife then came politics and her long career as a first lady. first in california to governor ronald reagan in 1966. >> what is ronnie's greatest asset for the women voters? >> just being ronnie, i guess. >> reporter: then to president

reagan in 1980. after the president was shot by a would-be assassin just two months into his first term his wife was forever shaken. >> every time he went out and talked to thousands of people my heart stopped. >> reporter: she carried on steadfast in her chosen roles as the president's protector, best friend and partner in efforts like the anti-drug campaign for which she was forever linked. >> when it comes to drugs and alcohol, just say no. >> reporter: she was criticized for consulting an astrologer about the president's schedule, dubbed queen nancy for expensive tastes in fashion and accused of managing her husband. >> doing everything we can. >> reporter: the fact is she never wavered as a loving wife and in the mid 90s the former president anonsed he was

diagnosed with alzheimer's disease the partner visited the republican national convention to share the family's pain. >> we learned as too many other families learned of the terrible pain and loneliness as each day brings another reminder of this very long good bye. >> nancy, let me say thank you for all you do, thank you for your love and thank you for just being you. >> reporter: she stayed close to her ronnie even in her last years. she made it a point to be there when the reagan library hosted election year debates and to visit her husband's resting place, a love story to the very end. lester holt, nbc news. and mrs. reagan will be buried at the ronald reagan presidential library next to her husband. prior to the funeral service there will be an opportunity for members of the public to pay their respects.

let's go to kelly o'donnell at the white house. she covered the reagans where the president and first lady released a statement about nancy reagan. one thing about being a president or first lady or former is that it is a very small exclusive club. they all at one time or another know each other but understand what they have been through. what did the president and first lady have to say? >> reporter: this is definitely a personal reflection in their statement about the passing of mrs. reagan and adds a little dimension about what you are talking about the relationship. the president and first lady say nancy reagan once wrote that nothing could prepare you for living in the white house. she was right, of course. we had a head start because we were fortunate to benefit from her proud example and her warm and generous advice. they say our former first lady redefined the role in her time here later in her long good bye with president reagan became a voice on behalf of millions

going through the reality of alzheimer's and took on a new public role as advocate on behalf of treatments that hold potential and promise to improve and save lives. we offer our sincere condolences to their children and grandchildren. we remain grateful for nancy reagan's life, her guidance and prayerful that she and her beloved husband are together again. in so many statement is people have commented on the spiritual side of hoping that president reagan and mrs. reagan are somehow together again now. that is so much a reflection of how public their coupledom was, the strength of their bond as husband and wife was evident during their years in public life and evident in the way they lived post presidency in some ways public and other ways behind the veil of that long good bye that we had been talking about with the alzheimer's that was a slow,

long difficult process for the reagan family. it was so gripping to see back in 2004, i believe, when president reagan passed, mrs. reagan sort of embracing the casket. that sort of cut through the heart of america. people could feel the pain that she was feeling and reminding everyone that these public figures and political figures are also personal family members, a husband, a father and in that moment she allowed the country into her own personal grief. a very indelible memory. when a lot of her grief was not quite as raw i got to see mrs. reagan at the u.s. capital for the presentation of a statue in president race eagan's honor. the last time she had been there was when he was lying in state

as part of a multi day remembererance. she was greeted by so many people who had been part of the reagan administration and then current lawmakers. i talked to the artist who created the statue that is in the u.s. capital and there is a replica in their libery. said she was so particular about wanting the image of president reagan to be as she remembered it and so she made a suggestion to the artist related to the suit coat as depicted on the statue that he did not have a break in the back of his suit coat. so it would hang differently. and she was so particular about that wanting it to be perfect. that is a sign of the relationship, the details and how important it was for her that what would remain long after she and the president were gone would be as accurate as she could help make it come to be.

>> thank you so much for that. i want to go to nbc's joe friar outside the reagan library. good to see you. they issued a statement earlier today confirming the death. she was without a doubt an integral part of everything that happened at that library. it was key for her to preserving his legacy. >> reporter: absolutely. the library was a huge part of her life over the past 12 years since ronald reagan passed away. the library would typically be open right now on a sunday morning but it is temporarily closed as the foundation figures out how it will move forward with memorials and how to handle the media. that is not stopping a number of people from showing up. a line of cars being redirected around the cul-de-sac and back down. a number of people want to come here to pay respects. just a few moments ago we saw a father bring his many young

children walking up the hill. a few kids were carrying small american flags. he told me he wanted them to pay their respects to learn more about nancy reagan. they are not able to get into the library but perhaps later. he says they brought flowers and left those flowers at a sign farther down the hill and apparently that is what a lot of people are doing leaving them at a sign coming into the entry way here. in lieu of flowers the agency is asking for contributions to the library and reagan foundation. we saw a man simply standing on the side of the road as people pulled up and holding an american flag. his hat said he was a veteran and he said he was here to show rptd to his commander in chief and the former first lady. a lot of people are coming here to pay respects to memorialize nancy reagan and we should know more exactly how that is going to work here at the library as the foundation tries to cement

the plans including funeral arrangements. nancy reagan will be buried next to her husband here at the library. >> thank you so much. in many places that are so beautiful in california there is no doubt that that presidential library has one of the most spectacular vantage points and it is a fantastic library. presidential historian and msnbc contributor. how are you doing? >> how are you? >> let's start with talking about her as first lady because we just heard about president and mrs. obama issuing a statement about how she redefined the role. tell us about those eight years and what nancy reagan meant to the reagan presidency? >> to begin with in 1981 was a very different time from now. the idea of first lady who was out there known to be very much involved in her husband's career a lot of people were not happy about that.

roseland carter would attend cabinet meetings. she had been so much of a collaborator in her husband's political career for years that it was out of the question that she would not be centrally involved. what you saw during the 1980s was her in a delicate graceful way saying this is ronald reagan who is president, not me. at the same time especially moments of crisis she would move in. in 1987 the iran contra episode, the controversy over trading arms for hostages and diverting proceeds to rebels she thought that was a danger to her husband's presidency. she moved in, had a lot of influence over the firing of her husband's then chief of staff and other changes that helped to revive that presidency and particularly to say now let's concentrate energies on a central accomplishment with

which he can close out his presidency and that was to get the ducks in a row for the end of the cold war so that by the time that's and nancy flew back to california january of 1989 it was a very great prospect that the cold war would soon be over. 1981 that would have seemed almost impossible. >> in a post presidential sense she was very key in shaping, preserving his legacy much in the same way that jacqueline kennedy made it such a priority for her after her husband's assassination to shape his legacy. also, defined essentially a political role for herself whether alzheimer's or breaking with the current president for support of embryonic stem cell research. she was independently a voice in the republican party. >> she did. you are so right to bring up

kennedy with whom she had something of a relationship after assassination attempt against president reagan she reached out and had an experience that was very close to that. she was a comfort to her and jacqueline kennedy and nancy reagan together raised money for the john f. kennedy library later in the 1980s and were able to provide some comfort to nancy reagan. and the one thing i think we have to really remember is that for someone especially who had that childhood that nancy reagan had had to go through the experience of having her husband nearly assassinated in 1981 as she much later said she never went through essentially an hour in which she was not worried that that would happen again. for any of the critics who question whether this was a first lady who gave her husband unconditional love, only a few

years after they went back to california came the farewell letter, november of '94 in which ronald reagan said to the american public that he had alzheimer's. so basically the last years of ronald reagan's life and it was essentially in many ways a hellish period. i remember talking to her a couple years ago and i said are you getting to travel very much. she said no i want to stay here in the house in los angeles because it makes me feel closer to ronnie. >> and she used to -- if there was any complaint that she had she would get frustrated that he was so relentlessly optimistic even at times of crisis in the white house. would he have been a different president if not for nancy reagan? >> very much so. looking at this as a marriage i think hat is why they were so

great with each other because i think nancy reagan to a great extent largely because of her early life experiences, she would focus on the people who were there that might do you in and be a threat to ronnie. ronald reagan on the other hand was so famously optimistic that he was a very good influence on her. so as a marriage this really worked and it certainly worked as a political partnership. >> when people reflect on her over the coming days, what will be the main thing that you think nancy reagan will be remembered for? >> i think what she should be remembered for is not as a first lady which people tend to think looking back over american history is someone dedicate today ceremony, but someone who had a big influence not only on her husband becoming president but being such a successful one. the other thing i think is she was so devoted to making sure

the presidency and president were presented in a way to cause americans to be respectful. the other night during the republican debate i remember watching it and i wastually thinking if nancy reagan is watching this what must she be thinking about the level of dialogue. my guess is she would be horrified. my hope is to take a breath and maybe we should return to that. >> there is never a lack of spirited political dialogue in that household with their two children. ron for a time worked with us here at msnbc. our sympathy goes out to the family for the loss of nancy reagan. there is a lot of reaction coming in from the campaign trail. we will continue our coverage of the death of former first lady nancy reagan. ♪

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we continue our coverage of the death of former first lady nancy reagan as we look at some of the pictures of the many years that they became so much a part of american lives both on the political stage and afterwards off the political stage. for nancy reagan, there they are at inauguration before and after the death of her husband. and so central is he to republican conversations if you are out on the campaign trail you hear him talked about all the time. his legacy remains so iconic. i want to bring in hallie jackson who has been on the campaign trail throughout and has more on the reaction from washington and across the campaign trail. >> you are right.

the legacy of ronald reagan has been so central to the candidates on the trail and nancy reagan's legacy and her life so central to ronald reagan. you see reaction coming in from presidential candidates. ted cruz tweeting that she will be remembered for deep passion for this nation and her love for her husband. donald trump also sending out a message calling her an amazing woman. john kasich, marco rubio reacting. rubio with personal memories talking about how he and nancy reagan met at the reagan library talking about how warm she was and how sorely missed she will be emphasizing her legacy as a link to her husband. john kasich talking about her being a woman of grace and strength thmpt common theme in these statements and reaction that we are getting, the deep love that she had for her husband and i think john mccain

said it best saying i will remember her as a dear friend and patriot. as one half of a love story that hollywood couldn't have written any better. the reaction is bipartisan. you are hearing from democrats talking about her work with stem cell research and remembering her policy developments and what she did on the policy side for her husband. just so much reaction coming in. you are hearing from former president george w. bush talking about how nancy reagan embodies what it meant to represent america as a first lady so much reflecting on who she was, how warm she was. you are seeing that from reince priebus on screen. you hear the word warm over and over again and the theme of the love that she had for her husband and the relationship, how strong it was and how central it was to her and how we will remember her moving on.

>> thank you very much hallie jackson in washington. i want to bring in historian and director of lbj library, the author of the book second ax, presidential lives and legacies after the white house. he met with nancy reagan while writing that book. when you have someone so familiar, who is so much on the public stage you must go into an interview like that with p preconceived ideas. how did you find her and how was it different from the nancy reagan you saw on television? her husband was ailing from alzheimer's and he was truly the love of her life. i think people talked about her abiding love for her husband one thing that missed is she saw his capacity for greatness and she

did absolutely everything she could in order to ensure that he had a position in the world to make a difference and so she was an important force in driving his political career. >> in writing this book you came to the conclusion that she was under appreciated. >> well, i think the public really began to appreciate she was really the bad cop to her husband's good cop. that was sort of her reputation in the white house. i think that like i saw a different nancy reagan out of the white house so many other people did, as well as we began to appreciate that same sort of take no prisoners attitude that she had towards her husband in the white house was really thrown into protecting him when he had alzheimer's. i think we appreciated her as a caretaker for taking care of this american icon, this american treasure.

>> and she really did in so many ways orchestrated sounds a little strong word but she found a way to so gracefully have him exit the public stage. >> she did. i think just as she protected his privacy and time in the white house she protected his dignity during the years after the white house when he was ailing from alzheimer's. she was -- she really orchestrated his life in so many ways. that is true when he died, as well. i think nancy reagan helped to orchestrate the reagan legacy. she was carrying the torch for the reagan legacy while he was alive and ailing from alzheimer's and afterwards after he died. >> did she talk to you about the criticism that she faced and

there are frankly no first ladies who don't come under criticism, whether the clothes or china or the implication that she was the power behind the throne, a lot of negative things were out there about her, did she talk to you about that and was her concern for what it would mean for him and for his presidency? >> i think she just realized she had a role to play. her role was to make ronald reagan as great as possible, to do everything she could to help him make his mark on the nation and world. i think she realized she would be seen as bad cop. she saw what she was doing to help ronald reagan in a position to change this nation and this world. >> as someone who spent time with her what will you remember about her that other people might not know? >> i think at the time i saw

her, her relative -- this is a woman who was the former first lady but so vulnerable given her husband's condition. i think we saw kelly o'donnell alluded and we saw her -- how much love. >> the director of the lbj library will be at the reagan library where she will be laid to rest. thank you so much for taking the time. good talking to you. up next more reflections on the life of nancy reagan. we are back in a moment. you're an at&t small business expert? sure am. my staff could use your help staying in touch with customers. at&t can help you stay connected. am i seeing double? no ma'am. our at&t 'buy one get one free' makes it easier for your staff to send appointment reminders to your customers...

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hello, we continue our breaking news coverage of the death of former first lady nancy reagan, the widow of ronald

reagan was 94 years old. she died from congestive heart failure, her death announced in a statement from her spokesperson. here is lester holt. >> nancy davis was an actress when she met ronald reagan on the mgm lot. he was already a star. though she had her own hollywood dreams she said she found her greatest role as his wife. >> i think i was born to be married. i was the happiest girl in the world when i became we. >> reporter: they married in 1952, a simple ceremony and appeared together in "hellcats of the navy." the last of her 11 films. >> you knew better. >> how could i know? did you give me a post dated check? >> reporter: from them on by her own description her life was devoted to her husband as mother to their two children and as step mother to his two children by former wife then came politics and her long career as

a first lady. first in california to governor ronald reagan in 1966. >> what is ronnie's greatest asset for the women voters? >> just being ronnie, i guess. >> reporter: then to president reagan in 1980. after the president was shot by a would-be assassin just two months into his first term his wife was forever shaken. >> every time he went out and talked to thousands of people my heart stopped. >> reporter: she carried on steadfast in her chosen roles as the president's protector, best friend and partner in efforts like the anti-drug campaign for which she was forever linked. >> when it comes to drugs and alcohol, just say no. >> reporter: she was criticized for consulting an astrologer about the president's schedule,

dubbed queen nancy for expensive tastes in fashion and accused of managing her husband. >> doing everything we can. >> reporter: the fact is she never wavered as a loving wife and in the mid 90s the former president revealed had he been diagnosed with alzheimer's disease, the partner visited the republican national convention to share the family's pain and her new cause. >> we learned as too many other families learned of the terrible pain and loneliness as each day brings another reminder of this very long good bye. >> nancy, let me say thank you for all you do, thank you for your love and thank you for just being you. >> reporter: she stayed close to her ronnie even in her last years. she made it a point to be there when the reagan library hosted

election year debates and to visit her husband's resting place, a love story to the very end. lester holt, nbc news. mrs. reagan will be buried at the ronald reagan presidential library next to her husband. before the funeral service there will be a chance at the library for members of public to pay their respects. i want to go to kelly o'donnell who is at the white house. hi, kelly. >> and house speaker ryan says that ronald reagan could not have accomplished everything he did without his first lady, nancy. she showed us the meaning of devotion as she cared for president reagan throughout his long good bye. she loved her husband and her country. this was her service. it was her way of giving back. all of us are very grateful. on behalf of the house i wish to

extend our condolences to the reagan family and offer prayers on the passing of a great american, nancy reagan from house speaker paul ryan. as we have been looking through statements from many members of congress, governors who have come forward, many republicans but democrats, as well. it is the personal connection that everyone in american like but certainly those who enter the world of politics feel to especially former first ladies. presidents have sometimes controversial tenure in the white house and sometimes after they leave the white house. there is a special american appreciation and respect for first ladies because of the unique role that they play and how personal their connection is to the american family. we have seen in so many statements some from political figures who are not as well known around the country they often talked about being greeted personally by mrs. reagan when they visited the reagan

presidential library for special events, personal connections that she had with them and how important it was especially on the republican side of things for people to make their pilgrimage to events at the reagan presidential library. there is a lot of programming that goes on as you find with presidential library. the reagan library is enormous in size and has become a home base for modern republican party. mrs. reagan was so involved there so you have the personal connection that people made perhaps one greeting or one meeting but that is what we are seeing reflected in a lot of statements offering condolences to her family and reflecting on what she meant to various figures. >> when we were talking a short time ago he was saying what i think a lot of us have thought as we watched the campaign season unfold is what she must be thinking is someone who

really was behind helping to make sure that so many debates in the past have taken place at the reagan presidential library. you covered ronald reagan. >> one thing that was particularly striking to me was a chance i had to go up to santa barbara where the reagans had what was known as the western white house and in those days he spent quite a bit of time doing his job from california. that is in the presocial media age when perhaps the president's absence from the white house would not have gotten as much attention as it were today. they have a spectacular property that reflected their california side. some years after their time in the white house and in the retirement they sold that property to a group called young america's foundation which is a sort of republican group aiming

at bringing up the next generations of future people who would be a part of the party. it is now used as a function site and it is sort of in its own way a museum. when i got to go there i was so struck by the natural beauty of the place but how spare their home was, small, rustic, very much a small ranch. mrs. reagan after the sale was made and so forth didn't want it to appear so sterile so she provided a number of things that had been a part of their life there, giving them back so they could be a part of the display and so that people can feel a connection. i was able to go into what was their closet. she provided some of their clothing and their boots and saddled from the horses. of course, there were jellybeans that she had on display and then also it was interesting to see that in their master bedroom was the old rotary dial phone that had the red button.

it's almost something you would imagine in the old movies. that was his connection to the white house. when you think of today's communications how different it is but that was his sort of back phone, if you will, for the presidency. so interesting to see how that was kept in time. there were books and sort of crocheted afghans on the couch. lots of things that gave you a window into their life there. that was very interesting. when i have been at the reagan library they always give you a jar of replica jellybeans as a sign of what was so fond, a personal characteristic of president reagan that became a bit of his almost trademark, the jar of jellybeans on his desk. >> one thing this will certainly do is renew interest for a lot of people visiting on the west coast to go to the library. it is something to see including

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joining me now, author of several books on ronald reagan. good afternoon. thank you for joining us. >> how are you? thank you. >> what defines nancy reagan for you? >> i met her after the presidency. i have as a young african-american post-doc i was bold enough to ask for private papers to do work at the end of the cold war. i was able to meet with her at president reagan's office. what really struck me about nancy reagan is that she was in a very constructive way interested in preserving and enhancing her husband's legacy. she wanted to do it in a very objective manner. she gave me nearly exclusive access to her husband's private papers. only the official biaug rfer had access to the papers. she didn't ask me to write it in any particular way.

she didn't say what i might write, say or couldn't say. there was no restriction on my work. that led to reagan with three other books, as well. those became "new york times" best sellers and the first to reveal that reagan had literally written thousands of pages of letters, speeches, political tracks that had not been seen before. mrs. reagan allowed us to have those materials published. >> what did that tell you about her -- >> i see her in a very positive light from a historical standpoint. >> what did that tell you about her that she was so intimately involved that you were able to have this personal contact and that she was making these decisions? >> that she cared about the future and she felt that as she called him ronnie that he had worked so hard on peace and

freedom and in a period when many thought that the soviet union would not expire that it was important to establish a record of achievement on the world stage and let the public know. that is what the reagan library is about, a guide post for understanding how to achieve peace and freedom in the world. her commitment in those years while her husband was suffering alzheimer's and she was so devoted to him was looking to the future, was a phenomenal way to spend one's life. >> known as the great communicator, one of the most iconic lines ronald reagan ever said was mr. gorbachev, tear down that wall. tell me what you learned about his relationship with gorbachev and russia but her influence on what happened and how it came about. >> that is an important question because many have been saying that nancy reagan was the one

who helped her husband turn his rhetoric in a softer way towards the soviets during his second term. i don't actually see it that way. i see ronald and nancy reagan as having forged a political partnership growing out of a love relationship that they had throughout their time together and that she was in lock step with her husband on wanting to end the cold war. she seemed in my view to agree with his first term strategy of the military build up. what we saw in the second term with president reagan's soviet counter part, nancy was part of both dimensions, the tough rhetoric calling soviets the military buildup and also the sermonnial side that led in the second term to the first nuclear disarmorment agreement in the

cold war in december 1987. i don't think this would have happened without the partnership of the reagans because they understood the nuances of the cold war story and the game they were fighting in a way i don't think any other political partnership could have delivered. >> as is the case with many first ladies how you felt about her at the time she was first lady may depend on how you felt about the president or the country. she certainly took a lot of hits. she took hits because of the clothing she wore and the money spent when there was double digit unemployment. there was, of course, the now famous consulting with the astrologer. there were often internal family struggles with her children who may have been on a different political page than she was and that her husband was. so people had these views formed of her based often on their own political leanings, but what surprised you about her? >> her commitment to policy, to

public policy not just in terms of the geopolitical struggles that we just talked about but the fact that she is seen as the first lady very much involved in bringing the glamour of hollywood and the ceremonyial part to the white house. what surprised me was she was deeply committed to policy and i think sets a really high bar for future first ladies because she was able to do both so well. there has been a lot of talk today about the war on drugs and her role in it and just say no. whether one agrees with what happened to just say no and the war on drugs we know that drugs remain a major menace and there has been a surge in drug addiction and overdose in the united states in just the past few months. nancy reagan went to the united nation in october 1988 to take her message to those assembled

about her views on drugs. she said we will not get anywhere if we place a heavier burden of action on foreign governments than on americas on mayors, judges and legislators. you see the cocaine cartel does not begin in columbia. it begins in the streets of new york, miami, los angeles and every american city where crack is bought and sold. she wasn't just putting a finger on foreign government. she was talking about the plague at home. i thought that was a very bold move for a first lady to use her platform to say to the world the drug problem is more than just the other side. >> director of carnegie mellon university center for international relations thank you for taking the time. we'll be right back. >> thank you. many people clean their dentures with toothpaste or plain water.

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