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earlier today has died of congestive heart failure at the age of 94. she was married to the man she always called the love of her life, ronald wilson reagan, for 52 years. a love affair that started in 1951 in hollywood. their wedding followed in 1952. the rest, as they say, in this case quite literally, is history. she was thrust into the role of caregiver early on in the reagan presidency after an attempt on his life much more serious, much dicier than any of us knew at the time. she never left his side or her role as caregiver all the way until the end of his life. we are joined on the telephone by one of the major figures of those years, former general, former secretary of state colin powell, and, general, if you look at your american story from
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soldier to secretary of state, a story of public service dominated by a breackdrop of republican politics for the most part, where does nancy reagan fit in your american story? >> i think she is a principal figure in my american story. i had the privilege of working for president reagan as a deputy national security adviser and national security adviser during the last two years of the administration, and i got to know mrs. reagan quite well then. you'll remember, brian, that was a difficult time right after iran contra, and we were trying to stabilize the presidency, get back on top of foreign policy, and as you just noted in the setup with her quotations, it was a team. i mean, they were inseparable both in body and in spirit, and the devotion she showed to him i think was an example of devotion that would benefited any marriage in the country, and i
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used to see it close up, and the interesting thing is that after they left the white house, went back to california, the relationship between my wife and me and mr. and mrs. reagan became closer. she didn't have to guard all the time as she did when she was in the white house, it came closer. and so i think she will be seen as one of the best, finest first ladies the american public has ever had. >> you know, i heard people in national politics, people who have been in and around the white house refer to every other job as the cheap seats. what they mean is you really only know what it's like on the inside if you've been on the inside. you, your wife, mrs. powell, gave the reagans probably a degree of comfort, someone they knew would be discreet, someone they knew and understood and a relationship that grew over the years. >> i think that's accurate, and you have to remember that howard baker came in as chief of staff
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and i came in initially as deputy national security adviser with frank after a crisis, and she was looking to us as the force that would stageti istabi gous white house and she held us accountable and she made us sure that's what we were doing and we were definitely on the inside watching her and how she protected her man, herron ni, and she did that with strength, with vigor, with a lot of common sense and she did it rather clev cleverly. she didn't shout at anybody but if there was a dissatisfaction it was made known to us and we fixed it. if there were people who were not getting the job done and the president couldn't deal with it or something he didn't like to do, he didn't like to face people head on and say you're out, she would act, and she would communicate to us, not that we had to obey her communications, but it was
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usually good communication. she was doing the right thing to support her man, her ronnie. >> more we change, the more we remain the same. here we are, first lady michelle obama under near constant criticism with having undue influence on things in this country starting with what our children eat at school. fast reverse back to nancy reagan who was under realtime criticism for having undue influence over her husband and the stf in the west wing from her office in the east wing, but she did take some incoming fire. >> she did take some incoming fire, and it was criticism of her -- you know, her war on drugs, just say no got a little bit of criticism, but the fact of the matter is it's not the first time we've had influential first ladies, but she never ordered us to do anything. it was always calling something to our attention rather briskly and expecting us to fix it. i can think of a couple of occasions as national security
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adviser when she wanted something done in our foreign policy travels and after i examined what she wanted, i had to go tell her, no, we can't do this. and i could see the frozen look on her face to this day, but she understood, so i think she handled the portfolio quite well, and we knew every time she would leave town and go to new york for a visit for a few days, which she did relatively often, after about the second day, the president became fidgety, and by the third day we were calling up to new york, come home, because he really was not complete without mrs. reagan nearby. >> that's a nice thing to be able to say about somebody all these years later. general, it's a pleasure to hear your voice again. former general and former secretary of state in addition to a number of other titles, colin powell. thank you so much for joining us by telephone as we look at the life of nancy reagan. >> my pleasure, brian.
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>> a man whose name was just invoked was part of a triumvirate. came to town with ronald reagan. he would have been forgiven at the time for thinking reese, baker was a singing group. the former chief of staff early in the administration, later secretary of the treasury, james baker. thank you, mr. secretary, for being with us. you have had a day to sum up your thoughts of this woman you knew so well and saw so closely on the inside. i'm curious as to how you will remember nancy reagan. >> well, i will remember her in a number of ways, but first i guess as a remarkable woman and the other half of a team that restored america's pride and confidence in itself and reinvigorated really our role, our international -- our role in international affairs around the world. you know, she was ronald
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reagan's closest adviser. she also was, among other things, his constant protector. she knew when someone in the white house was paddling their own canoe or when they were carrying out the president's agenda. she was very good at that. the president was not particularly good alt firing people. she was pretty good at that. you needed somebody who was very close to him to get the job done sometimes, but she was a remarkable first lady, and she should get a lot of the credit for the accomplishments of this very successful two-term president. >> and isn't it true, mr. secretary, that she really was -- they started with such a close and intense and devoted marriage, that with the assassination attempt, it got even closer, and she never
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really was able to pull back from her role as caregiver, the person who watched over ronald reagan from that point until the day he died. >> that's absolutely right, brian. she was his -- she was the number one protector of his legacy. she was his caregiver frf the day he was shot onward until he died of alzheimer's, until he got alzheimer's. she would not let anyone other than family, of course, go in there and see him after a certain period of time in order to protect his dignitiy. she was very good about protecting his legacy, and, of course, was his soulmate and had an extraordinarily wonderful love affair with him for the latter part of his life. >> as i said to someone earlier today, if you got sideways with
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her, that was not a good place to be as a man named don regan found out. he came from merrill lynch to bring a kind of business sense as i recall to the west wing. what went wrong in that relationship because, man, it went south in a hurry. >> well, i think what went wrong was that don really didn't understand the job. he had been a very fine secretary of the treasury. he was -- actually he was ronald reagan's favorite cabinet member. they were both irishmen, not too far apart in age. they used to get together and tell irish stories, but don looked at this job of white house chief of staff, which may, of course, be the second most powerful job in washington, but which is a staff job. it's chief of staff. he liked the chief part of the title. i'm not sure he liked the staff part too much, but he got
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crossways with the first lady fairly quickly, and that's a hanging offense. in fact, he hung a telephone up on her one time. somebody asked me about that, i said that's really a hanging offense and i think that's what cost him his job, but that's the kind of person that nancy was. she was the president's protector, and you're quite right, you didn't cross her in that white house, but she contributed mightily to his success. >> and even in her later years, she had the house in bel air. we had a nice residence up at the reagan library where she spent time. she would walk visitors out to her husband's burial site. she was still a product of that union. she would talk constantly about how much she missed him even though she was entertained by a vigorous circle of friends, entertained by the latest news
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and gossip from hollywood. it really was that yawning gap in the her life, and it started when the veil of alzheimer's came over him and he was robbed of their memories together. >> well, that's very true, brian, and i traveled to los angeles from houston fairly frequently, and i never go out there that i don't see her, call on her, and i can tell you firsthand that she really, really never got over his loss, the loss of him, and she did miss him. and she would say that. she was not bashful about telling you how much she missed him, and that was indicative to me at least of how deep and lasting their love was. >> a final question, she made it pretty well known to her phone friends and in-person visitors, she thought we were in the middle of a crazy campaign year for the republican party about
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which she felt great affection and kind of responsibility. >> well, i think that was the way she felt. i've had some conversations with her about that, but i know this -- she also believed, knew and believed that we follow -- this is, after all a democracy. we follow the voters. if the voters hr committed to something, then really it's up to the party to stick with their voters and not try to dictate to their voters how or what they ought to vote for. so i don't think that she -- you know, i remember when ronald reagan came up in 1976. i was a strong supporter at that time of george h.w. bush and i had run a campaign again ronald reagan for president ford and
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then ran one against him for george h.w. bush. and when he was coming up, we thought good gracious, this guy is a shoot from the hip actor, he's going to get us in trouble, he's going to get us particularly in military trouble or something, war. you know, ronald reagan served eight year and never got us in a war at all. one police action in grenada. so we had these doubts and fears back there in '76, and they didn't come to pass, and, in fact, quite the reverse came to pass because the nation listened to the voters. >> former secretary -- >> and, you know, it may be that we're seeing the same kind of phenomenon today. at least there's some similarities. it's a different time, i grant you that, and there's a lot going on in this campaign this year that would not have gone on in a campaign that ronald reagan was a part of, but there are some similarities. >> former secretary of state james baker has been kind enough to join us from houston, texas. mr. secretary, thank you very
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much for your time and your memories. >> thank you, brian. >> another break for us here. when we come back, more insiders from those years. people from the reagan white house, the people in nancy reagan's life. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. when we breathe in allergens our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase. 6>1 changes everything.
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we're back. our coverage continues as we mark the life and times and the passing of former first lady nancy reagan at the age of 94. if you were with us earlier, you heard historian and author michael beschloss call her among the most influential first ladies in american history, and that's for a lot of reasons. let's bring things to present day. our friend and colleague nicolle wallace is with us. she, of course, is a stalwart in the face of my good natured ribbing every time we face a primary election night around
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here, but she's also been a stalwart in her times in republican politics for the bushes and the mccains, among others. nicole, i'm looking to know what you would define as nancy reagan's legacy. >> well, first, i could have listened to secretary baker draw the parallels between president reagan and the campaigns he ran against him and the times that you and i seem to be lying through every tuesday night these days, but i would say her legacy was she was the first first lady that i think gave a window to the world into the complete and absolute power of a true partner. i've read in his diaries and in a book she put out in 2002, all of his love letters to her. she centered him not just around the big moments but every morning and every evening he started his day and he ended his day and at many points during his day he connected with her, and everything that he went
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through was sort of rooted in and grounded in his reflection in her eyes. and one of my favorite love letters he writes to her, he says i miss you when you leave the room. so, you know, their partnership was more than just romantic. it was substantive. it was everything. >> and cynical americans at the time until present day heard it as so kind of lugubrious and guyy and lovey-dovey. they thought this can't possibly be true. how unlikely it would be president and first lady, but it was the truth. >> it was the truth, and anybody that doubted the true force of her power just has to read the conversation you just had with secretary baker. anyone that doubted her learned better in very, very short time. so i think that by the end of the reagan presidency, there were very few doubters. there were almost all believers. >> as we've also been saying, it
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just strikes me looking back at her life and times, the more we change, the more we remain the same. look at some forces on the other side politically who have been kr criticizing michelle obama for having as they see it too much power, too much inflounce over government and policy and the food we serve in our schools. it goes right back to nancy reagan having, quote, too much influence over her husband and his policies. >> i thought about michelle obama. i thought about hillary clinton and i thought about laura bush and barbara bush. they all stood on the shoulders of nancy reagan's just say no campaign in their own advocacy efforts, and in a lot of ways they also have this common thread and i think hillary clinton is an exception here in many regards, but with michelle obama and laura bush and barbara bush, they remained popular at points when their president husbands were not popular, when they were embroiled in scandal, in part because of their own
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initiatives, and that was very much a model that was furthered by nancy reagan and her campaign, and so i think there's very much alive in the way michelle obama carries out her job as first lady and the way laura bush did around the rights of girls and women in afghanistan and around mrs. barbara bush's literacy efforts. very much of that was rooted in the model set by nancy reagan. she also just as a republican woman, she was so elegant and she was so stylish and she was so classy and she was always sort of the model of a stylish and elegant republican woman that we were all so proud of and sort of in her shadow and in her presence the party looked grander and it felt better and the center became a destination for every republican i ever worked for. she made that library a destination. we've already had a debate in this wild, wild cycle there, and i think that part of her legacy and impact is that it will always be a destination for
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republican politics. >> if she didn't appear real to people in current -- in the moment, in realtime back then, she certainly became real to anyone who visited her, got to know her, especially in the past few years. she was -- she loved the fun of hollywood. she loved talking about movie stars and gossip, and she was a realist about this current campaign. she told anyone who called her on the phone, she would say things like can you believe this? >> well, she was in some ways a very classy version of what we now call a political junkie. i mean, she'd seen it all. she knew this party and as secretary baker was saying, i think that she and her husband never lost touch with the base of the republican party. they turned a whole class into voters, they call them reagan democrats. they never lost touch with the grassroots of the party, and i
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think the image, you have shown it several times this year, of her draped over her husband's coffin, i don't know anyone's heart that wasn't too muched and moved by her public displays of grief when president reagan passed away. >> tornado watches torture to watch. nicolle wallace, who will be with us march 15th when we take in the next wave of results and the same nicolle wallace who's arc of personal feelings we have tracked during this wild and woolly gop campaign. nicole, thank you for your thoughts today. >> thank you, brian. >> our coverage of the death of nancy reagan will continue right after this. at safelite, we know how busy your life can be. oh no this mom didn't have time to worry about a cracked windshield. so she scheduled at safelite.com and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there. so she didn't miss a single shot. (cheering crowd) i replaced her windshield...
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well, in the midst of a somber day of looking back at the life and times and days of first lady nancy reagan, we can be the first to invoke the phrase that she probably would have gotten a kick out of this. we have a projection. the voting in puerto rico we are protecting when it's all over, marco rubio will win puerto
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rico. this had been the cliff-hanger, 23 delegates in all at stake in puerto rico, and this is the top three there. huge margin, 74% to trump's 13% and ted cruz 9%. so a little dose of politics. after all, nancy reagan loved politics, loved the discussion of it, all things politics, all things hollywood as our next guest can attest. bob, a long-time special correspondent for "vanity fair." among the people i thought of earlier today when i got the news because you were beyond a member of her kitchen cabinet. a constant friend and companion to her. you spoke to her days ago. >> i spoke to her about a week ago. i was out in los angeles for the "vanity fair" oscar party and i called her to confirm a visit that we had planned, and she postponed it by a day and then it ended up being canceled.
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but she was in fine form. she was very lively. we were reminiscing about that annual barry diller lunch on that weekend, and she and i had gone together one year, and when we arrived, sort of standing at the top of a slope let's say and the lawn went downward and there was warren beatty in the middle of this. he came running over, scooped her up in his arms, and carried her into the party, and she was laughing as i recalled this. and i said, you know, nancy, there were 200 people with their jaws falling thinking, isn't warren a liberal democrat in. i said they didn't know you were so bipartisan. she said, that's right, i always thought you have to get along with everybody. >> people should know about her. she would say to all the friends she talked to during this campaign season, can you believe this? meaning what's happening to the republican party. the other thing she was up on was every star and starlet and the film business and rumors, and she got all the magazines in
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later years, had them read to her. sh was a sharp, sharp woman. >> and in our conversation she was totally intrigued and enthusiastic about geri hall marrying rupert murdoch. she loved all the new york gossip. she said i can't wait for to you come to the house on saturday afternoon, fill me in on everything that's happening in new york and i said we'll have a lot of laughs and, you know, i was looking forward to actually questioning her a little more closely about the current situation in the republican party and the primaries in general because she did follow politics very carefully. she believed very strongly in getting to know people. she always said when you move to a new town, get to know the neighbors. she gave that advice to laura bush and to michelle obama in a luncheon. she was disappointed that neither of those first ladies followed that advice, that they didn't have a lot of state dinners, didn't do the kind of
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entertaining she did. she really believed that you -- she always said a lot of things get done at dinners that can't get done during the day. >> yeah. >> and she grew up in that kind of social atmosphere, and she believed very strongly. her best friends in washington were people like bob strauss who was chairman of the democratic party and on the other hand george will who was the leading conservative columnist and kay graham, the head of "the washington post." constant lunches and dinners and i think it contributed to the success of the reagan presidency. >> role number one for anyone running for office going into a gop debate, evoke the name of ronald reagan. rule number two, see rule number one. she lived long enough to hear the nonstop use of the family name. saw it invoked for good and for ill, but watched it all. she devoured politics. >> yeah, i think she was a bit amused but also pleased that so many democrats came to evoke the
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name of ronald reagan, and she cared about his legacy. she cared about him more than anything else. her love really made his -- her love and support made his whole political career possible. i did one book, i'm doing a second on the reagans as a possible and everyone from george sthoults her best friend betsy bloomingdale said to me ronnie would not have made it without her. she was the big picture guy but she was the detail person and she was the personnel director of every reagan operation. he liked everybody. she sort of edited the people. she made sure he had good people around him. she loved jim baker. she saw what a good job jim baker had done for george h.w. bush in the primaries and she wanted him as chief of staff, and that happened. i have heard him being quoled as saying he owed his job for her. when somebody wasn't the right fit or out for themselves, she was the one who had to figure out how to get rid of them.
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ronald reagan's father was an alcoholic who lost many a job and it was so painful as a child for reagan to watch his father being fired, the family being broke again. he just couldn't bring himself to do that. so she always said to me, don't say -- don't write that i'm tough. say i was strong. i had to be strong for ronnie. >> you were the young kid in her living room. as a constant visitor to her household, she hated losing her older friends as her circle shrunk. it depressed her a lot. >> yes. and she didn't even want to hear the news i think towards the end about friends passing or being seriously ill. but yet i think she almost was ready to go to ronnie. she believed -- she said she would see him. she thought he was waiting for her on the other side, you know. i think she was just -- she really, really missed him. their love, it does sound
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hollywood, but they just suited each other in every way. it's the things he was not good at, she was good at and vice versa, and it was -- i remember her one day talking on the phone, and she suddenly said, oh, ronnie has such a beautiful stroke, and i said what? she said, oh, i'm sorry, i'm watching ronnie swim lapse in e pool and he's still such a beautiful swimmer, and i realized -- he was 90, she was 81, still enthralled. it was like a physical thing. they were just on the same page and meant for each other. >> well, she loved you too, and i know you will miss her badly. you have been nice enough to stop by here and talk about his friend, nancy reagan. >> she loved you too, brian, by the way. >> thank you. it's a pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you. >> another break for your coverage. we'll be right back after this. when you think about success,
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we have so many people who have written about us and broadcast about us all together in one room like this, and i thought you might like to say a few nice words to them. they're all from the press and radio and television. maybe just a friendly little greeting would do. how about just a word or two, something friendly, even one kind word. >> i'm thinking. i'm thinking. >> people forgot they started as actors. you can rent "hell cats of the navy", see them on the big screen together. i don't know that there's been another president and first lady with their own imdb pages with
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>> and sheila, what was she like to work for? >> she was a superb boss. i was thinking about this the other day. she knew what she wanted and as soon as she recognized that, it made it very easy to work for her. it's a lot easier to work for somebody who knows what they want as opposed to someone who is all over the place. i enjoyed my tenure in the white house and afterwards we became even closer friends since i was no longer staff, and i always felt like it was a privilege to work for her. >> let's leave it at that. there's not a nicer way to end the interview. sheila tate, former press secretary for former first lady nancy reagan. thank you for joining us by telephone on this sad day when we learned of mrs. reagan's
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death. ken duberstein, we've heard him discussed as a former chief of staff late in the reagan presidency. it's good to see you, old friend, and by old friend i mean not, of course, old, but i have known you for a long time. >> likewise, brian. >> what are your thoughts about nancy reagan today? >> oh, she's with her ronnie. i think she's spending nonstop time filling him in on all the gossip since he passed away ten years ago. you know, she was so devoted to him. she put her life on hold so that she single mindedly focused on him. one of your other guests said -- i guess it was bob, said something about ronald reagan didn't like firing people.
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he trusted everybody. she was the verifier. she is the one who could tell whether the people were on her husband's agenda or they had their own agenda. she was absolutely fundamental to everything that the president did and everything he accomplished whether it was with gorbachev or with tip o'neill. she believed in governing, as he did. she believed in reaching across the aisle. yes, we were all republicans, but we also had the democrats and we needed to build a majority. she encouraged that with the preside president. it was instrumental in all his thinking that you campaign in order to govern, which is far different than today.
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that's the key. but let me come back a minute on the love affair between the two of them. it's been mentioned in your program of "hell cats of the navy." in the last year of the presidency, we organized a ronald reagan film festival. and the first one we showed in the family theater was "hell cats of the navy," and the president got up and he started explaining how the movie was made, and he said it was the first time i had an on-air, on-camera kiss with nancy davis, later to be nancy reagan. and there he was in front of 50 or 60 people, and what did he say? come on up, mommy, because he referred to her as mommy, and let's re-enact that special
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moment, and the two of them embraced and kissed. that's the love affair. it was real. it was genuine. he was better when she was in the room. she was better when he was in there. that was the essence of that relationship. that's what made them so special. that's what enabled the president to get so much -- so many things done that changed not only our country but the world. >> and, ken, i think of you so often sitting here on election nights with rachel maddow, with nicolle wallace, and it's top of mind today because nancy reagan was known to be, well, let's put it somewhere between depressed, bemused, and amused at what has become this race, and i think of you as mr. republican. i think of you as a handful of people to whom the party really,
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really matters and the direction of the party really matters, and i know she had her own opinions on watching all of this, which she did. >> and this is the year of nobody can explain. it is the year where things are happening that have never happened before. she would throw up her hands. there are a lot of us who throw up our hands in saying, what's next? what's the next curve in the road? let's not make this a race to the bottom. let's make this a race to the top. because we have a country to rebuild. we have a world where it needs american leadership. we've got to get on the track to start doing that. >> ken, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. it's awfully good to see you. take care of yourself, and as a friend of nancy reagan, as you were for many, many years, our condolences on the loss of your friend today at the age of 94.
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i like her very much. i was in a young governor when she was first lady. she helped us a lot in our effor efforts. >> bill clinton reacting, using the very last vestiges of his voice on the campaign trail for his wife, reacting to the death today of former first lady nancy reagan, gone of congestive heart failure at the age of 94. we want to talk to another veteran california republican, and that is 13-term congressman dana rohrabacher. congressman, your thoughts on nancy reagan?
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>> well, i first met nancy back in 1966 when ronald reagan was running for governor. i was involved with his youth campaign, and i actually camped in his back lawn one night when i thought i really had to talk to him. he had just won the nomination and nancy came out and she said, what do you want? and i said i needed to talk to your husband, and she said, look, when he comes out he's going to be late for the rest of the day or he'll skip his breakfast. i'll get you a meeting with the campaign manager if you leave, well, i did leave and reagan came running after me with shaving cream on his face and his shirt open and he said, well, i can certainly spend some time with you if you camp out on my back lawn. en in si wnancy was watching our her husband and that's the role she did extraordinarily well. she watched out for ronald reagan, she loved him, and when
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she became first lady, she brought to the white house a sense of elegance and propriety that it dearly needed. she upgraded the white house that had been allowed to deteriorate and she took a lot of heat for that too, i might add. so she played a very important role, a supportive role to ronald reagan, and she did a good job bringing back the dignity to the white house. >> and as a kid who camped out on their lawn, you parlayed that into a white house job and into 13 terms in congress. i don't mean to indicate any skulduggery, but you also witnessed him develop the notion of the california republican. however you have the word republican, the definition of republican, is a moving target these days. you had that shared sense with ronald reagan and nancy reagan all your political life. >> that's correct. and i will have to say that president reagan took what was a
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negative conservative right wing concept that the we were all -- we had to defeat the soviet union and destroy communism, he turned it into a positive. he turned it into we need to promote democracy and freedom, we need to be the champions of liberty, the champions of pros pirt, part, not just against b government but we're for prosperity. and i think that positive nature of the president's stance also indicated that he had a good relationship at home and had the type of solid thing that creates a positive spirit in someone. >> one of the republican stalwarts among the house delegation in california, veteran congressman dana rohrabacher. congressman, thank you very much for finding him to remember nancy reagan with us today. >> thank you. bye-bye. >> as much as americans should make it a point, especially those with young kids who can get around and afford it, visiting our presidential libraries is a fantastic thing
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to do. it has been theorized so far today that the reagan presidential library on the coast of california may be the prettiest of them all. if the lbj library in austin, texas, is the most massive and muscular, the reagan presidential library looks out upon everything ron and nancy reagan loved so much. it includes the original 707 air force one, looks down upon the slope to the pacific ocean. correspondent joe fryer has been staked out there for us today. joe, i have been watching you on the live feed from there, and i'm wondering how much activity you have seen. it's obviously going to become such a focal point of activity over the next few days. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, brian. this is certainly a central point for a lot of people who want to remember nancy reagan, but they are closing the library today, and it will be closed we've learned through the week. in fact, it's not going to
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reopen until after nancy reagan's funeral. we still don't know when that funeral will take place but the library will remain closed inle that time. it's just the media that's allowed out here right now. that didn't stop a number of people this morning from trying to come out here. they figured this was the place to go to show their respect and remember her. we saw a father who had a number of small children with them, some of them carrying small american flags. they were walking up here and the father told us that he just wanted his kids to come here and pay their respects and learn more about nancy reagan and her husband. also as we were driving up here, with he saw a man, a veteran, who was simply standing on the side of the road holding a flag as it waved. he said that he wanted to pay his respects to nancy reagan and also her husband, who was his commander in chief. he served in the army during the reagan administration. now, we're told there will be some sort of way for the public to honor nancy reagan. we expect to learn more about that probably in the next day or so. this library remained incredibly
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important to nancy reagan as a way to commemorate her husband's legacy. she would visit here often, not quite as often in recent years as she grew older, but she did make a point of making sure to be out here every year in june in order to remember the day that her husband died. she was an active member of the board. in fact, we're told she played a pretty active role in trying to reach out to the pope and other members of the aerrchdiocese he for a special exhibit that opened today on the vatican. so that watis supposed to open today. it's obviously not opening now, but she remained very active. she was here for the ribbon cutting when air force one was brought here. she, of course, hosted republican presidential debates and who can forget that just emotional image of her during the internment ceremony for her husband when she had been presented with the folded flag and then she was touching his coffin, an unbelievable image, brian. this is now where she will be
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buried at her husband's side. >> joe fryer, classically beautiful simi valley, california, day. thank you for that joe, as we continue to cover and will in the coming days the life and times of former first lady nancy reagan. dead today at the age of 94. ♪ ♪ don't just eat. mangia! bertolli. as we age, certain nutrients longer than ever. become especially important. from the makers of one a day fifty-plus. one a day proactive sixty-five plus. with high potency vitamin b12
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