now, though, we are about to do something which is much more traditional american politics. right now it's for msnbc's town hall with presidential candidate john kasich. he won't fight dirty. >> enough of this trash. go and tell people what you're for. >> he sticks to the issues. we can't elect somebody who doesn't know how to do the job. >> yet his rivals have prevailed. this is a special town hall. >> good evening. welcome to a special msnbc town hall event. this is a family event that

started on the back of a pickup truck in 1977. today it is certified 100% woman owned by our host. in four days ohio makes its choice in this presidential primary race. the winner sweeps up all 66 of the delegates. john kasich has the home field advantage. let's welcome now ohio governor and presidential candidate john kasich. >> we've been through 24 contests is it good to be home. i flew into cleveland, i guess it was. i can't which day. i got on my hands and knees and

almost kissed the ground to be back in the buckeye state. >> there was a poll that came out this week that has you at a 79% approval rating. you won reelection by 30 points. you were endorsed two months ago by the republican party in this state and yet donald trump is either leading you, tied or you have a slight margin over him. why aren't you running away with your home state? >> i think we are gaining now. i believe we will have a solid victory here, but we have to work. that's why i'm in lima today and i'm traveling across the state. it's an odd year. we're ahead of him. the latest poll shows up up five so i think we have to work hard. we're doing everything we can possibly do and i can say don't want me to leave because they want me to stay as governor, but

i'm not going to say that. i'm hoping they say let's move our guy forward. >> given all your built in advantages here, shouldn't you be winning by more than you are? >> shouldn't the today show be having a bigger audience than what you currently have. you do the best you can and i can't tell you exactly why it isn't a blow out right now, but people are unsettled and i think they're looking for some significant change. i think that's true. but obviously they're pretty happy in ohio. i'm very, very calm. by the way, i'm having the time of my life. >> what do you say to some of those people in the state of ohio who like you very much, but are thinking about voting for donald trump on tuesday? what do you tell them. >> i tell them let's look at the record. let's look at what happened in ohio and let me get to washington and try to fix that place too because that's something that can help the whole country and not just people in ohio and people in ohio will be helped and by the

way i'm not going to move to washington permanently. my kids will be in school so i'll be coming back and forth every weekend so how is that. we'll see. >> governor, marco rubio's communication director came out and said if you want to stop donald trump in the state of ohio go vote for john kasich. would you say the same thing to the voters in florida. >> to tell the people who might want to vote for me to not vote for me. >> if you want to stop donald trump -- >> should your voters in. >> should i tell my voters to not go vote for me? >> that's what the rubio campaign suggested. >> that's something a politician would do. i'm not going to tell my voters to go vote for somebody else. i don't think i have to tell

them anything. you like me, but please don't vote for me. go vote for somebody else. here's the thing you have to understand, i'm the governor of this state. the people allowed me to be in my second term. we've not only seen the economy rise, but we've seen a lot of people helped, the drug adidic d addicted, the mentally ill, i got an e-mail from a mom whose son is disabled and he's doing very well and our friends in the minority community are coming up. i decided to run for this because i thought i could help the country, but to be honest i think i'm doing what i'm called to do and i'm working as hard as i can. the only way i can work in he harder is to set myself on fire and i'm relaxed about the

outcome. if you watched the debate last night my positivity must becoming contagious. >> it was mild manored. >> one other thing, i don't think politics has to be name calling. they're going to run a lot of negative ads about me in this state trying to defeat me which i don't think will work, but why can't we talk about our vision. why can't we talk about our hopes. why can't we show the kids that one little young person back here why can't we -- we all have kids and they all watch. so why can't we show them that politics can be a noble profession where you sell people on the basis of what you're for. lima pallet doesn't say go out and buy pallets somewhere else, they say buy lima pallets.

why can't we run the country this way. i think it will lift or country. >> governor we're here tonight to hear from our voters. >> governor welcome back to lima, ohio and given the tenor of the campaign over the last weeks, how concerned are you about the republican party moving forward. >> if i'm not the knee it will be fine. i have a very positive rating in the country which is amazing. i'm not like plus 19, bernie is second and i don't know that anybody else has a positive rating. i'm have a common sense solution in terms of immigration. in this state we brought peopling to. i'm a conservative. i'm a republican. we'll have conservative solutions, but we'll invite democrats in. we have a philosophy that whoever wants to help us solve a

problem, we're going to do it. so i'm not really worried about all this now. what i'm concerned about is getting through all this and then i also beat hillary by more than anybody else. i'm the only one right now beating hillary in ohio and look here's the fact is that i don't think in our history any republican's ever become president without winning ohio. is that right? >> that's correct. >> we're going to keep being positive and let me -- i want to say, but i don't want people to misinterpret it like i'm not serious about this. there's more to life than winning an election. in my lifetime i'm trying to do what i feel i've been called to do and i'm going to keep at it one foot in front of the other and i'm going to be positive and put my vision and my record out there. if it works, great. if somehow it doesn't work, i'll be okay.

life's going to go on. so i think when you get too hung, when you want something so badly you're willing to do anything for it, then i think it effects your behavior. remember that old song -- i don't know if you're old enough to remember this song, hang on loosely, but don't let go. try it. you'll enjoy it it. >> is that true or do you believe that you could win a majority of the delegates by cleveland. >> trump has like 300 or something. there's a thousand or so yet to go. yeah, i could absolutely win enough and go into the convention with the greatest number of delegates. that absolutely can happen. >> with a majority? are you expecting a fight in cleveland. >> i think it's very hard for

anybody to get there with the right number of delegates to clench the nomination, but you get there and you have the delegates there and they take a look at who is running and who is in the russiarena and they m pick, but i could go in there stronger than anybody else. somehow the media says so many things on monday and then they switch on tuesday, but i love you. >> thank you for making an exception, but walk the voters through because there may be some people going into voting saying i don't think he can get the nomination so i don't want to waste a vote on tuesday. what is the path. >> take things one day at a time. >> are you going to win ohio. >> of course. there's a thousand yet to go. is it possible for me to go into the convention winning a lot more states than ohio, this is march madness. what do they want? home court advantage. i'm finally getting on my home court and you folks are paying

attention to me. i actually get questions in the debate now. is that unbelievable? >> we're going to a registered republican here in ohio. >> governor kasich, we've had some success with bringing business from foreign countries like china and canada into ohio. how specifically will you do that for the country and expand those programs that way for us? >> well, look, i think -- first of all, everything starts with jobs as i think everybody in ohio knows my father was a mailman, i grew up in a blue collar town and i learned as a kid the most important thing that somebody like me or keith or these other elected officials can do is create an environment for job growth. how do you do that?

common sense regulation. you have some regulations, but don't kill them. these people don't pay any income tax on their business because they're small business and we don't tax them and then finally have a fiscal plan. one of the things that our jobs ohio people say one of the greatest advantages we have is we're running a surplus. all of the cabinet worksing together and they understand they need to work together to be job friendly. that's what we need in washington. we need lower corporate taxes because we're some of the higher taxes in the world. we punish people who want to bring their profits home and we tax them twice and it has to stop. you have to have an administration that is focussed at every level at every cabinet at being job friendly. reward people who create jobs because when we create jobs we help families. that's what we have to do. so get the taxes in the right place, get the regulations in

the right place, train our workforce. we have to demand and i think here in lima they're doing a great job, we have to train our kids for the jobs of today and tomorrow right there in the k through 12 education and then with vocational education and then four year schools, but you have to have a business friendly attitude in all of your cabinet. if they don't get it, then ygot to find somebody who does. that attitude of welcoming, of having common sense, of having a job creating mentality will change america and will allow us to have the economic growth that we want. we have to lower taxes. we have a $19 trillion debt and the regulations have to make sense because they're hurting here in the midwest. >> thank you for your question sir. on the question of jobs and economy governor there are a couple of steel plants scheduled to close at the end of this month.

what do you say to those steel workers? what's their next move in this economy 1234 y economy. >> you have to rush in there and find out what you can train them for for. we're up in manufacturing jobs since i came in office. we're going to be later today in a place where we have a thousand workers that are replacing an auto plant closed and guess who the investor is, he's chinese. so we are always -- we have jobs coming back from mexico --ford brought jobs back from mexico. we're seeing foreign investment from germany, france and great britain. for those workers we want to find out what the situation is. one of those steel plants got hurt because the south koreans were dumping steel in, they were bringing steel into this country and they were selling at a price less than it cost them to make it. it's called dumping.

it's a violation of trade agreements. the government fought it and it takes a couple of years to decide this. if i'm president, we're not going to put up with that nonsense anymore. we're going to have an exindicted process. my family worked in steel mills. guess what? they didn't wear a white collar. they wore a blue collar. we have to keep training people. we rush where there's a problem. >> much more with governor john kasich of ohio. we're back in a minute from lima, ohio. chicago police say had they adequate resources to kwur the rally. they say five people were arrested and two oifrz suffered

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welcome back to msnbc special town hall event with ohio governor john kasich. we're going do get to the aud enin a second. >> what was the bigger endorsement i got and all we heard was o.h. i have to tell you arnold has been a friend of mine for a long time. when i was running for governor they were running a bunch of negative ads against me and arnold came in to help me and he goes john, love the beatings.

love them. >> we're going to talk to the crowd in a second. one more question on the economy. democrats in ohio new proposal to wage the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. good idea? >> no i think we have a steady raising of the minimum wage each year that fits our economy. if we jump it up too much, people are going to lose their jobs. so we have a perfect situation here. it's a modest increase every year and look it's a political time, we're getting close to an election so let's just politicalize the issue. >> somebody make it $8.10 an hour. if they work all year, $16,688 a year. you can't live on that, can you? >>.

it ought to keep rising, but what i don't want to do is give a raise to somebody and somebody else loses their job. a lot of these jobs are part time. the whole key to income and wage increases is skills. we want to take anybody who is in a job where they are the working poor and give them the skills to be able to get out of it and i'll tell you another thing we're doing and the legislator is going along with this, we do not want to have a working mom who gets offered a pay raise, she can't take it because she loses more benefits than she gains with the pay raise. that is nuts on welfare. we're trying to reform this welfare system so people will be encouraged to rise, keep the day care and get more money and ultimately escape poverty. those are the things we're working on in our state. >> let's turn back to the audience. simmon is an independent voter. >> hi, sir.

i'm an international student. i've been living in ohio for almost six years now and i know for this particular election the immigration topic is a very difficult one and for me as an international student it's kind of uncomfortable sometimes because i would love to stay in this beautiful country if you give me amazing opportunities being a student. in the last democrat debate they -- the candidates promise that they will not deport any illegal immigrants with any kind of records. so i would like to know your comment on that on illegal immigration, but also in people like me that are f1 students that would love to stay in this country. >> right. i would say first of all if you're under a deportation order then you're going to have to leave, but i think you know my position. my position is to control the boarder, we need to control our boarder just like you lock the doors on your car or house, and

then if people want to come in illegally they're going to have to go back. but i favor immigration. for the 11.5 million who came in illegally, if they have not committed a crime they're going to pay some taxes, a fine and have a path to legal immigration, but not citizenship. >> i have never waifrd avered. i believe in immigration, but it has to be immigration that's controlled so we know who is coming in the country with. first of all it's not fair and it could become a security issue. for you you're a student and i don't know what the path would be, maybe you get a green card, i don't know, but we certainly don't want to go around grabbing 11 million people out of their homes, shipping them across the boarder and having their kids sitting on the porch crying that

mom and dad have been taken out. once the wall is done, if anybody comes in you have to go back, no excuses. i think the proposal i have is reasonable, a path to legalization, but never to citizenship for those that jump the line is i think something that people can accept and it's something that could pass the congress. we do need to lower the rhetoric on this and just get it done. let's be americans first before we're fighting with one another down there all the time. >> governor, what's the distinction there? you said you don't believe in a pathway to citizenship, but a pathway to legalization. for people at home what's the difference there. >> it has to did with benefits, it has to do with voting, all those things that come as a benefit of being a citizen. my problem with giving a path to citizenship is i've always told my girls no matter how badly you want something you don't jump in front of somebody else who has been waiting. there's an element of -- not an

element it's largely unfair. no matter where we are in life, when we see somebody jump in front of us when we've been waiting in line, it's very aggravating. i don't think they ought to have that reward, but many of them are important parts of our economy to go and pick them up at their home, it's not going to happen. it's political rhetoric. >> let's get another. >> mr. governor, there's a lot of countntroversy right now abo gun ownership. what are your thoughts on the second amendment and do you believe in protecting our right to own a gun. >> i'm a second amendment supporter. i would tell you this, that -- a couple of things i would say to you. number one is the president through executive order has raised an issue that shouldn't be done by executive order, but the congress ought to consider and that is the issue of mental illness. we do not want to have guns going into the hands of people

who have mental illness and the fact is the states are supposed to upload the data on people that have these problems, many of the states are not doing it. the congress should look into it and we should follow the law and we should toughen the law in that area. there's another thing i think that's in your hands and that is when you're in school you get a sense of somebody being bullied, you get a sense of somebody who is really you can see they could be on the edge, that's when you need to tell your teachers, that's when you need to tell your principal, that's when you need to report -- call the police department and say let me tell you what i'm seeing because that's something that can disrupt these kinds of things and it's important we keep our eyes open. let me tell you another thing, i tell all the students that i see, including the young ones that are out here, never, ever, bully anybody and secondly when you see somebody being bullied, you want to do some real good, you stand up for the person

that's being bullied. it will make a big difference. >> governor there was a young man shot and killed here in lima on monday in a convenience store. are murders like that a people problem or a gun problem? >>o kn >> i don't know what the details are. i think people have a right to defend themselves. i think people have a right under the second amendment to collect guns and hunt. i don't believe that passing laws to restrict guns is going to have any impact. i think it is a fundamentally a problem with the people who engage in this kind of violence. so look i -- i can only answer it by saying we all have to keep our eyes open. i don't know that the story behind that. we had a terrible situation in chicago where a young boy was shot because the gang member had

a problem with his father. >> a 9-year-old. >> these are just horroric things. horroric things. the question is how do we get to the root of it. when we look around, we find a society that is divided, that is polarized and frankly loving your neighbor matters, and when we -- when we don't love our neighbor, when we don't care about somebody -- we know the story of the good samaritan, two people pass by and somebody stopped and got him into an inn and paid the bill, that that transcended time is the way we should behave. i think a lot of this is about reconnecting our communities and about being involved. i'm running for president. i think you higher me as the ceo. i take care. of the budget and taxes and

all that, but the spirit of our country is you. it's what we do with the god given gifts that we have. if you're a nurse, you spend an extra 15 minutes with a family that's fr that's frightened. if you're a teaching -- we know about teachers. the lady that her husband died, call her on monday and take her to dinner on saturday. what's she going do on thursday by the way? she'll go and get her hair done. somehow it will be perfect on saturday and when you pick her up on saturday, she's going to wear a dress she hasn't worn in six months. did that change the world? absolutely it did. so i think the spirit of our country and connectivity it rests with us and we have to have the confidence to know that we're the ones that reignite the spirit of our country. >> more with governor john

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nation is so divided. >> we have a country that's so divided that maybe you don't understand it. i've never seen anything like it and this has been going on for years. there's a lot of anger in the country and it's sad to see actually. >> back to our program. we are back in lima, ohio with governor john kasich. time for a bit of foreign policy. for that we go back to the crowd. mark take it away. >> thank you governor for visiting here. as commander in chief how would you deal with the issues that are going on in the middle east, in particular with isis? >> okay. how about a trip around the world? first of all, with isis. isis takes me back to the first gulf war and the reason i say it is we cannot defeat isis unless we have the arrabs involved.

those would be the egyptians. they know their days are numbered if isis gets ahold of them. the gulf states and turkey is a tricky countri tricky country to figure out how to deal with. then we get our allies and let the regional people figure it out. iraq was drawn after world war 1 by a bunch of guys sitting in london and they put these thingsing things together that never fit so let the regional people sort it out. israel is a great ally of ours. they're being attacked from above with missiles, rockets. they're being attacked from

underground digging tunnels. they're our friend and we need to make sure they have the security they need and give them the weapons they need to defend themselves and our goal should be stability. libya is a problem now because we meddled somewhere we shouldn't have because getting in the middle of civil war has never worked out for us. we can support people on our side, but directly involving ourselves. now we have isis in libya which we have to tend to and they say we're going do it from the air. in that case with people inn libya a ground, we shouldn't have had that problem. with putin, kwaif he tries to attack in europe, it's an attack on us. we don't have to tell him he's our enemy, but he needs to understand what his limits are. the chinese need to understand

they don't own the south china sea. we don't expect them to continue to hack us and we have the capability to defend ourselves and launch a counter attack that will knock out their systems and they have to stop manipulating the currency when they're in a good position to take our jobs. you have europe, it's important that you go to europe and start showing respect to them, but warning them about the dangers -- they know about it. you don't have to tell the french about the dangers of islamic extremism. the brits are getting ready. the germans are overflooded with m migrants. europe is also right now in agreement -- here's what i'd say, sometimes you get lemons and oftentimes you can take those lemons and you can turn it into lemonade.

it won't be easy, but it has to be tried and it has to be done. then the civilized world needs to standin together. >> 15 years ago we went to war. i think a lot of people thought after 9/11 we were going to take this thing home. if we go back in to fight isis, how do you know when that war is over? >> you mean in afghanistan? >> no, the fight against isis. >> you know it's over when you decapitate them. it's an achievable objective. afghanistan's a little bit of a different situation. i have to tell you, we have to get to the point where we know without having to announce it that our time there should be limited. frankly what we have to do is to make sure that the afghans have the capability to fly the planes that they need to support their ground forces.

there might be an opportunity for us or it might be necessary for us at times to be able to intervene if we begin to see something like al qaeda beginning to gather. i do think that -- i don't want to say it because the minute you say we're going to leave then they say what time is it, when are they leaving? but i want to tell you that i think american involvement in that country has gone on for just about long enough. >> time to bring the troops home. >> i said what i said. >> more with governor john kasich from lima, ohio right after this.

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strategy. i had a two man office in ohio, and if i bankrupted the brothers -- it's negative and it's desperation, but the people of this state know me so i'm not concerned about it. >> he has floated the idea that you would be a great vice president for him. >> you better not that say that in front of my wife. >> you represent -- >> i'm serious. >> -- an important swing state. [ applause ] >> you've said in the past you would support the nominee even if it were donald trump. >> i have the second best job in america, number one is president and number two is governor of ohio and i love being governor of ohio. >> so if donald called -- >> i just answered your

question. >> would you not accept a advice presidential nomination from donald trump. >> i'm going to the nominee after we win ohio and finish the rest of the country if you didn't live in new york -- you know, we may be competitive in new york. are you available for vice president with me. >> i'm afraid i have a good day job, but thank you very much. >> there's a plane, a house. >> it's tempting. let's go to another question here. this is hanna. she's a republican with the question about the american dream. >> hello, governor. i'm 23, full time grad student, i'm graduating this may with my masters. i'm worried about finding a full time job and being able to pay off my student loans and one thing that is keeping me going is the american dream. my question for you how will the american dream be a reality under a kasich presidency?

>> well, you know that kind of that question touches me because you're 23 years old and you're going to find not only the american dream, but you're own dreams if you dig down because you're made special. don't ever forget that. there's something that you can do that nobody else can do and no one's ever done and no one will ever do again so these are big dreams in and of themselves. in terms of our country we have to get this economy going. this is the worst recovery post world war ii out of a recession. we're growing anemically and there are all kind of things preventing us from doing well. we are up in a state 400,000 jobs. the entire time i've been working as governor the wind has been in my face, never at my back. so if i can get this all straightened out there using the

formula that i did in washington -- i was budget chairman -- i don't know if you knew this but i got the federal budget balanced, we paid down on the national debt and the economy was roaring and the republicans spent all the money and we went back in the hole and we had the crisis on wall street and we've been down. we can get back up again and grow. now, for you i'm worried about the student debt as well. what's really interesting and i don't know what the costs are at liberty, but i was in michigan a week ago. you know you can go to college for $6,000 in two years and transfer all those credits to a four year school. you could get your college costs in half and that's one thing. secondly, you ought to be able to restructure your loans so the interest rates reflect where the market is today and maybe we can come up with some community service projects where you can help improve the community and work some of that debt off, but

here's another thing that you need to think about. what year are you? >> i'm graduating. >> you're graduating. >> may 14th. >> a lot of it is connected. you need to go on ohio means jobs, the website, because you will see a list of all the job openings in ohio and i think we're up to 200,000 jobs, something like that, of openings that are not filled. so you need to scan that, ohio means jobs. every state ought to have ohio means jobs and frankly early on in our education, we ought to be educating you based on what you want do with your life connected to the jobs that are available so you can actually see what it is you might want to do and how you get one of those jobs. that's what i think is important, connecting education to jobs. we're forcing all of our universities to work with students on that and we also are starting that in the k through 12 system so that people can begin to grow up and see what it

is they might want do and what it takes to get one, what they pay. it's all there on ohio means jobs. that's a site that should be available all across america so people can get education connected to jobs, training connected to jobs, but don't lose faith. we'll get this economy going, but also remember that you keep the faith and know that you will find your way in this world, just search for what it is you're supposed to do. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your question. a quick break and more with governor john kasich right after this. this bale of hay almost derailed the ranch. when a wildfire raged through elkhorn ranch, the sudden loss of pasture became a serious problem for a family business. faced with horses that needed feeding the owners were forced to place an emergency order of hay. thankfully, mary miller banks with chase for business. and with a complete view of her finances,

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we're back with more of the special town hall event with ohio governor john kasich. we're here in lima, ohio. want to talk to you a little bit more about the state of the race. as you know there are conservatives and republicans who believe we must first stop trump. that's all that matters here. i'm going to read to you from the national review a couple of weeks ago every vote you take from cruz or rubio is a vote toward embracing planned parenthood. it's a vote away from sensible nominations on rational foreign policy. it's a vote toward the destruction of the republican party that's the last hope of protecting life, religious

liberty. >> it sounds dire. >> what do you make of the argument that the three of you are splitting up the vote and clearing the path for donald trump to become the nominee. >> we're not picking the class president. we're picking the president of the united states. i'm running because i believe i can bring the countrying toget and solve these problems and transfer power to the people and also to restore some hope. i go places -- i was in this little town in illinois. there must have been almost 2,000 people in there. they were working folks. it reminded me of being home. they were intense about you can do this. sometimes those people give me more energy than i can get myself. you don't make these kinds of deals or whatever. i'm not out to stop anybody. i'm out to become the president of the united states. we have is a long way to go and

starting with a good win in ohio we're off to the races and i'm going to get to that keconventi. you never know what happens in this business by the way. what's true today is not true tomorrow. i don't pay attention to that. get in the arena, my friend. get in there and let me know what it's like. it's easy to have an opinion when you're sitting 50 rows up in the end zone. i'll tell you what that quarterback should do. go play football and then give me a call. >> let's turn back to the crowd. >> hello. i am currently a judge nior in school. last night on the debate there was talk about raising the retiermts. do you believe that slowly raising that age could save america. >> i said last night there are more 18 year olds that believe

in ufos than in social security. somebody fact checked me on it. we already are raising the retirement age. i'll give you a technical answer since you're at saint john's. here's what we do exhibit, we currently base it on prices. it means that your starting point will be lower. for those who have been wealthy will get social security theirs will be less. for those who need it they'll get their full benefit. the system is it fixed forever. in order to get that done you're going to have democrats to go along and there will be some compromise involved in this, but that will get it done. i tried to do this before i left the congress and everybody ran away because they didn't want to get themselves out there on social security so i better just ignore it and now the problem

has gotten much worse, but we can fix it. okay. >> another quick question. if you're in the position to appoint a supreme court justice, will being anti-abortion be a requirement? >> we don't have tests. i have appointed over 100 judges including fortunately a woman who receives on the ohio supreme court. all ip wa want to know is that they're not going to make law, they're going to interpret the law. at the end of the day we've appointed conservatives. the voters -- we vote for judges in ohio. most of them have won. they've done well. they've carried on their duties responsibly. one thing i am beginning to ask some of the judges though is we have a very serious problem all across the country with drugs and the one thing we don't want to do or with people who are non-violent offenders, let's not

put them in prison next to a murderer because a judge gets down to a decision am i going to be labeled soft on crime if i p put them in a setting that's better for them, but i can be attacked on a campaign. so we might ask a question like that, but no test. >> let's go back to the crowd. >> hi, governor kasich. i how do you think governor gives you an advantage in the race and as possibly president? >> well, look when you're a governor -- first of all, i was a legislator for a long time and i learned to not like executives. as an executive i'll let you finish the sentence. just kidding. in all seriousness these experiences allow you to understand both sides. what is it that a ledgislator needs and what is an executive

supposed to do. as an executive you're held accountable and at the end of the day if we were not growing jobs and things were bad, people would say he failed. we didn't fail. i had a good team to work with, but there's no substitute for the experience of things happening that just come right out of the blue. let me tell you, i am a much better leader today than i was five years ago. there's no question. i'm better today than i was four years ago. each year you develop -- you know what part of the key is, you have to be calm, confident, strong and you have to make sure you have a good team. that's what you have to do. and you don't learn to be calm -- how old are you? >> i'm 16 right now. >> are you driving yet? >> yes, i am. >> be careful. here's what i want to tell you, you're going to be a much better driver two years from now than you are today. and you're going to see things

today that are going to get rig. after you see a lot of things, you're going to be become more comfortable behind the wheel and that's what it's like to be an executive. you can't make excuses as an executive. in other words, the final exam comes and you can't say the dog ate my homework. you actually have to take the test and get a grade. >> thank you, brooklyn. we have a million more questions. i will ask one more. the cleveland browns cut johnny manziel today. was that a good idea? >> the people cheered when they told me about it. look, i don't know the guy. but i think we're all disappointed he struggled like he has, huh? we wish it hadn't happened but he hasn't seemed to accept personal responsibility. i don't know about him other

than to say clearly he's got a problem and he needs to get on the top of it and i hope he does and i wish him all the best. but it hasn't worked out for the background ch you didn't bring unlebron. and let me say this, they're going to win the title this year. >> really? >> i predict it, ok. [ applause ] >> i know -- i know -- listen, i know all about stefan curry, i know all about klay thompson, i know all about draymond green. i know all that. watch for the cavs. seven games. watch out. >> he was -- >> i didn't know that. >> good luck on tuesday, sir. thanks for your time. our thanks to governor john kasich and to our host tonight. this is the place for politics. on