if i were donald trump, i would wait a few minutes. because that is one tough act to follow. i have watched kasich for a long time. he generally gets up and does an awe, shucks, sort of impromptu number. that was a written speech delivered brilliantly. it had applause line after applause line. he did it with passion and brio. i've never hear kasich do this. if he had run his whole campaign now, we might be looking at a guy very much competitive with trump right now rather than lagging behind. that speech was a barn burner. >> you took away my second question. i was going to ask you about the mechanics of it. he chose, i am guessing, a teleprompter was an option made available to him. he chose to read it from paper in front of him. he didn't put a premium on looking up at his audience. obviously the words were important. and you're right, i think his delivery was so serious, and

forceful, and earnest, i think it went over very well in that arena, as we just saw. >> and sometimes in a speech, a great speech by a former governor cuomo of new york, you get a pacing, and the kick, like in a race, a foot race. and the pacing kicks up at the end. we call it a kick. but in this case, the kick began at the beginning. it was moving. it had a regular pacing to it. very hard leaning forward, pound, pound, pound, applause after applause. that audience radiated with his words. it's not tricky, we know what the people op the right side, the people pro israeli people want to hear. he did it with great knowledge. i didn't hear any pulling any punches. it was a powerful speech by a guy who doesn't give a great oratory. if i was donald trump i would sit in the locker room a few more minutes and then come out

and try to match that. it's going to be a challenge. big challenge. >> chris, speaker of the house, paul ryan, is coming this to make an appearance. he's announcing a trip he is leading of a congressional delegation to israel. the next of the presidential candidates to speak will be donald trump. we'll fit a break of our coverage in here, our live coverage from washington and elsewhere. we'll continue right after this. i've been claritin clear for 14 days. when your allergy symptoms start... ...doctors recommend taking one claritin

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those two have switched order. at any rate, at the conclusion of his remarks now, donald trump will enter the verizon center in washington. for us, let's go to cave creek, arizona, and chris matthews. chris? >> thank you, brian. i want to try to explain to people the power of aipac. it's not so much the organization itself and that you can endorse people in different ways, but people tell me if you get an endorsement of aipac, you find yourself with friends you never knew you had. people will say, can i have a fund raiser for you, help you out in certain ways. it creates a whole support for your -- now it's being challenged by a moderate group to its left. but less hawkish certainly. i don't know, the n rks a, aipac, washington, d.c., those two groups really get your attention if you're politician

of either party. joy, i was here paying tribute to the oratory of john kasich, a guy we normally think of as a jimmy stewart, awe shucks. and all of a sudden he's a barn burner. >> a lot of people forget that governor kasich has a media background. he's actually a quite good presenter. >> did you watch it? >> i did actually remember seeing it a couple of times. very conservative guy. he comes across as a moderate in this race because of obviously the contrast of people like ted cruz. but people that i know in ohio, turner, a state senator who worked with him, noted he had bipartisan ability. he actually has great communication skills. you just don't normally see them on display. >> an orator. >> it was a terrific speech. a lot of it i think comes out of -- this is a topic kasich knows a lot about. he talked about this memorial that he actually saw from beginning to end, a three-year

process, might have been longer than that in columbus. he actually knew every worker that worked on that memorial. he cared about it deeply. it's not surprising that he understood what aipac wanted. when you go to aipac, you can go to their booklet and see all the issues there. i don't know one that he didn't hear there. definitely a home run. >> it's important to remember, too, governor kasich, it hasn't been emphasized in this campaign, but he is an evangelical christian, and quite active about his faith. when you give speeches like this, it is just as much about evangelicals as -- >> let's talk about that. the jewish community is about as big as the episcopalian community. it's america wide. they tedeeply love israel. and they are very committed about -- i think it's easier to be pro-israeli now. because there's really no

recognizable immediate route to a two-state solution right now. you don't see anybody on the other side ready to make the deal that we need to have. >> you have also seen republicans, since george w. bush, aggressively go after the jewish party toward the middle east, hawkishness toward the palestinians. it hasn't worked for the republican party. >> but trump -- >> i don't think he'll do it. he's come out as this non-hawkish guy. it would be surprising to me if he's saying the neocon line. he's been the guy who said i am not going to pander to the vested interests in washington. but he walked back things like neutrality. >> let's talk turkey here, guys. does he have the stuff not to pander? because i've seen -- it's very -- i don't even like the word -- not saying what this group wants to hear is a problem politically, i would say for him. >> absolutely.

>> bernie sanders already has his position op the left. everybody knows that. it seems to me the republican party is not going to get much of the jewish community support. >> aipac is a network of donors of the they're not a political action committee, they're a policy group. they don't give money them sells. but air their members do give money, and lots of it. but trurp doesn't need that money. in a sense he can. but look, i fully expect him to pander. i'll be interested to see what his speech is. i've never heard him give a detailed policy speech before. again, this is an educated audience that knows what they want to hear. >> we know that he's got a written speech. that's going to be constraining for trump. i think, i said this to brian earlier, i think he's got to be very careful. he wants it go as far as he has to bs but no further. >> and the target here are the very evangelical voters who are very pro-israel. who are right now with ted cruz.

he can't get too far, at the same time the optics of the group, you'll have rabbis walk out of the speech. i think from listening to what donald trump is saying today in media, he's going to present the israeli-palestinian prospect as the ultimate deal maker. he's going to claim that he's the one guy with the forceful personality that will cut the ultimate deal. >> the globe editorial director for the "huffington post." how far can trump go. >> let's back up for just a second. the people in that big convention -- in that big arena, by the way, let me say, that the mere fact that aipac is meeting in a basketball arena talks about how american politics has changed. chris, you and i go back to the time when jews and american politics, and others who supported israel, didn't operate

in a basketball arena, okay? politics has changed. as you say, it's much more open, it's much more out there. it's much more transparent for everybody to see. that's number one. number two, 80% of jews in the last u.s. presidential election voted for barack obama, even if they distrusted him on this issue. that's the second point. the third point is that people there, both jewish and christian, are too smart to be pandered to in a simplistic way. john kasich's speech was not a hard right speech, the way you described it. he did not say he was going to rip up the iran agreement. he said he would suspend. he did not say he would rip up. he did not praise benjamin netanyahu one whit. he did not talk about greater israel. he did not talk about moving the embassy to jerusalem. he did not talk about jerusalem as the undivided capital of israel.

he said the eternal capital, not undivided. those are key words. what he did was something that every ethnic group does. he talked about -- and appeals to every ethnic group, which is to personally reach out and show your familiarity with the world view, and the pain and the hopes of that ethnic group. he did that by mentioning all the people that he knew in ohio. all the families by name. and then he finished, and then in between was a very shrewd and very careful, yes, conservative leaning, but not pandering speech that showed the depths of his knowledge and commitment. and then he ended with an ad lib which wasn't in the text, that he talked about the jewish faith and tradition of leading a life larger than yourself. that tied his own evangelical background, in his own early roots, to that of the jewish people and the jewish tradition.

which i thought was utterly brilliant. that was a state of the art, careful speech on israel by a guy to me -- i think it was even more impressive than you guys thought, but for a different reason. because it was very carefully considered. now, that's the bigger challenge for donald trump who's now going to come out and take his plasterer's trowel and do whatever he's going to do by way of an obvious semi pander. as you said, the list of people he announced today who are on his foreign policy team are not neo conservatives. there's not a neocon in that list that trump released earlier. but he's going to compensate that with talking about his son-in-law who's jewish and the fact that his daughter converted to judah im, not equating them on a one-to-one basis with hardline 100 support of israel and the fact that they're jewish

is an insult. kasich was smart enough not to do that. let's see if trump is. >> howard, i'm chastened by the excellence -- i'm not pandering to you at all, i'll tell you. i was taken with the power of the sweeping oratory and the applause lines rather than -- he never did say i'm going to strike down the iranian deal in its tracks, he didn't say i'll move the embassy. he didn't need to -- >> wait until ted cruz gets there. ted cruz is going to do it all. he's going to throw it all in there. that is going to be the real hard right pander speech. and that's what both people love about ted cruz, and what people fear about ted cruz. he's willing to push every emotional button regardless of the consequences. >> you know, it's so interesting about the jewish community politically, forget the reform or whatever on the conservative

reformer, all the different parts of the jewish community, but the political differences are to me not much different than other communities. you have the people who tend to be more liberal, academics and laws or whatever. they're very comfortable in the democratic party. then you go into the business community that's jewish, they tend to be much more hawkish and more conservative. like any other group. there's a parallel there. don't you think? >> yeah. >> i'm talking to groups and i'm stunned, a group taking a strong position against the iraq war, go down to florida, and people love me. so they agree with me politically. tell me, let's get into this thing about the community. the decision by bernie sanders not to show up today. we're all -- all the non-jewish people are baffled about that today. he's got nothing in common perhaps with some of the people there. your thoughts? >> it is said, and it's always said, a cliche, where there are 10 jews, there are 11 opinions.

that's an understatement, there's more than 11. jews in america are so thankful, because they do have a sense of history. for the opportunity to take part in american politics, that they do it with almost reckless aban done, all across the political spectrum. you've got everything from the communists on the hard left, in brooklyn where bernie grew up, not saying he's one, but he grew up in that fertd ill environment in the '30s, all the way over to the hard right as you see it expressed now in the lu cud and to the right of the likud. but it's still true. this goes back to the new deal. 80% -- i'm saying, 80%, go back and look, 80% of jewish-americans voted for barack obama, even though they didn't trust him as far as they could throw him on israel, for two reasons. first of all, for most american jews, while they might love

israel, it's not their obsession. it's not the obsession of all or even most american jews at this point. it's not. it never has been. and the other reason is they recognize the american politics. it's amazing, because there was a time in the past when jewish-americans didn't want to operate the way they're operating today. you know, the harry truman thing was different, it was done almost behind closed doors to recognize the state of israel. here you've got a basketball arena full of people expressing their views publicly. i think that's very healthy for the system. >> i think -- i'm so glad i got it wrong tonight so you could get it so more velously right. i mean it. i really like that. by the way, we call it the phone booth. that's the verizon center. the idea, in the old days, for a couple of guys who said we can help you out in this race, back room kind of thing, no, we're meeting in a theater and televising it. >> i love the statistics.

i'm never one to disagree with howard. but interestingly enough, barack obama got the lowest share of the jewish vote since walter mondale, but it was still 69%. 79% in 2008. as howard said, the jewish vote was split 80/20, for democrats, and for bernie sanders not being there, an important point to make, bernie sanders is appealing to very young voters. and younger jewish americans are a lot less hawkish on the idea of the israeli-palestinian -- >> back to you, brian. >> fantastic. great analysis. our thanks as well to howard fineman. let's go to katy tur who is traveling with the trump campaign. katy, any preview you can give us? >> we don't have a concrete preview of what donald trump is going to say, because the campaign never gives out his speeches beforehand. but we do have a little bit of a snippet. he did talk about it at the

press conference today, he mentioned when it comes to israel, he does believe that the capital of israel should be jerusalem. this is changing from what he said initially back in december when he spoke at another influential jewish group. he said then he didn't really know if israel -- jerusalem should be the capital of israel back then. that was considered a major gaffe among that group. jerusalem has long been held as the capital to israelis. so when he didn't say that, it was certainly held as a gaffe. of course, the u.s. has its embassy in tel aviv. he's expected to amend that tonight when he takes the stage here. he's also expected to talk about his -- saying he's neutral when it comes to palestinian and israeli affairs. the conflict between the two. he's supposed to come out strongly on the side of israel, but he also said previously a number of times that he does want to be the man that brokers a peace deal between the two

nations. and he said the reason had's come out neutral, when he's talking about the two sides, he doesn't want to tip his hat to say who he favors when it comes to a negotiation, brian. >> katy tur in the upper reaches of the verizon center, as chris said, it's washington area nickname the phone booth. this is where they play hockey. they play basketball. and how big a venue is this? tomorrow night the stage will be occupied by rihanna in concert. but tonight it's the three republicans running for president. we're going to take a break. we are expecting donald trump on that stage next. [engines revving] you can't have a hero, if you don't have a villain. the world needs villains [tires screeching] and villains need cars. ♪ diarrhea. pain. it could be ibs-d. prescription xifaxan is a 2-week ibs-d treatment

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[tires screeching] and villains need cars. ♪ here's what's going on inside the verizon center in washington. we've heard from john kasich. we've just heard from the speaker of the house, paul ryan. like a political convention, they are showing a short film. we think there may be one or two minutes remaining. and we have reason to believe that when this is concluded, donald trump will be introduced. and we'll be off to the races. chris matthews, of course, following along with us. chris, we can't say this often enough, this is as a venue, is going to be markedly different for donald trump who has grown accustomed -- you can see the notes he pulls out of his pocket. he writes in black sharpie. he has writing like an ekg.

he goes from just bullet points, notes in his own handwriting, and he's used to being interrupted at the end of every sentence by sup sporters. remember, we've got a group promising to get up and walk out when he starts talking. that we're expecting to happen. this is potentially a fraught arena for donald trump. >> yeah, the old expression is, listen with your tongue. in other words, get out there, say something, and if it seems to work, keep going. if it doesn't, pull back. constantly being interactive and testing. you're right, brian, he cast test material tonight. something about the two-state solution, something about the capital, appropriately in jerusalem. something about the history of the country since '48. it's modern history. if he gets anything wrong, it will be noted well by his critics. you know, you can read the new york posted tomorrow with the

other papers, even the ones that like him will be very attentive to how he handles himself. he has nor toiously gotten the triad wrong, sea launch missiles. getting things wrong like that, you can't get wrong. and israel, you have to know all the anti-missile systems. you have to have them down. arrow, and iron dome, you have to know all that stuff. he better show he knows it tonight. i think it is tricky business. i'm sure had's going over that speech. it's going to be so odd, brian, to watch him carefully read a speech. will he use a prompter? will he study the words and read them out carefully as if he's afraid, like he's taking an oral exam? it's going to be odd, i think. >> yeah, ted cruz's oral style and cadence are much more accustomed to this venue. he traditionally has taken long

pauses. he delivers sentences as complete thoughts. he pauses. and there's a windup before the next sentence. donald trump, as you know, is an entirely different communicator. >> i think if he does what we call in sports trash talking tonight, it will not be well received, even if it's in a sports arena. i think if he uses language considered below the class of the people there, he will offend them. this is going to be some late-night lounge act, i can tell you that. they will not be in the mood for that. they came in there, paid their money, take themselves seriously. he's going to have to talk to them more like a jury than an audience tonight. he has said we could be even-handed. the american presidency has historically had to play a number of roles. pro-israeli, common sense. number two, peace makers, even-handed peace makers. you have to be able to go to the arab side and say, trust me. they've got to be allies of

israel, with one hat on, and have that other hat on all the time which is, i'm an honest broker. this is a tricky business, the middle east. it's not as simple as being a sap for whatever government's over there. i don't think the jewish community is that way either. i look at presidents like eisenhower, reagan, who were able to handle those dual roles very well. but they are dual roles, otherwise you're never going to succeed in a peace effort. >> you're so right. it's so complicated. if you were an american who's been away for a decade or two, to come back and watch the debates, you'd have to -- you'd want to adjust your television set to listen to the -- how the republicans refer to israel vis-a-vis how the democrats used to refer to israel. and read up on just how contentious the politics have become between, say, the obama administration and the netanyahu administration. >> yeah.

israel's become a great power. great power has great critics. unfortunately, and this is really anti-sem etic stuff, i think europe has been guilty of it. and the old bad seed, but israel's been having a very hard time in europe. england's been very good for israel over the years. france, not so much. germany's been trying, obviously, to make up for its history. but israel does have a lot of enemies in the u.n., in the general assembly, for example. walk in the door, and israel is the one being pounded all the time. it's interesting. then there's two israeli points of view. i talked to two different people in israel who couldn't be more different. netanyahu for an hour, and the former president, former prime minister. perez is the most optimistic guy in the world. he said some day we and the arabs are going to get together with technology, and not fight

over land and acreage. it's going to be different. netanyahu is much more of a traditionalist. i'm holding the line here as long as i'm here. i'm holding that line. because i don't have any better deal i can give you. within the jewish community, within the israeli community, there's such a range of optimism versus pessimism. and what's realism. that's always the great question. always. >> chris matthews out in arizona, which by the way, one of three satates voting tomorro. let's keep our cameras trained on that podium. the second of two short films has come to an end. and we have reason to believe that the fanfare and the lights will herald the arrival -- >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome presidential candidate mr. donald j. trump. >> donald j. trump at the verizon center in washington.

here you go. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening. thank you very much. i speak to you today as a

life-long supporter and true friend of israel. [ cheers and applause ] i'm a newcomer to politics. but not to backing the jewish state. [ applause ] in 2001, weeks after the attacks on new york city, and on washington, and, frankly, the attacks on all of us, attacks that perpetrated, and they were perpetrated by the islamic fundamentalists, mayor rudy giuliani visited israel to show solidarity with terror victims. i sent my plane, because i backed the mission for israel 100%. [ cheers and applause ] in spring of 2004, at the height of the violence in the gaza strip, i was the grand marshal of the 40th salute to israel

parade, the largest single gathering in support of the jewish state. [ applause ] it was a very dangerous time for israel, and frankly, for anyone supporting israel. many people turned down this honor. i did not. i took the risk, and i'm glad i did. [ cheers and applause ] but i didn't come here tonight to pander to you about israel. that's what politicians do. all talk, no action, believe me. [ applause ] i came here to speak to you about where i stand on the future of american relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother. the only democracy in the middle

east, the state of israel. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. my number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with iran. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. thank you. i have been in business a long time. i know deal making. and let me tell you, this deal is catastrophic. for america, for israel, and for the whole of the middle east. [ applause ] the problem here is fundamental. we've rewarded the world's leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion, and we

received absolutely nothing in return. [ cheers and applause ] i've studied this issue in great detail. i would say actually greater by far than anybody else. believe me. oh, believe me. and it's a bad deal. the biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that iran is going to violate it, because already, you know, as you know, it has. the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get the bomb by simply running out the clock. and of course, they'll keep the billions and billions of dollars that we so stupidly and foolishly gave them. [ applause ]

the deal doesn't even require iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability. yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program, for only a certain number of years, but when those restrictions expire, iran will have an industrial size military nuclear capability ready to go, and with zero provision for delay, no matter how bad iran's behavior is. terrible, terrible situation that we are all placed in, and especially israel. [ applause ] when i'm president, i will adopt a strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to iran. first, we will stand up to iran's aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. [ applause ]

iran is a very big problem, and will continue to be. but if i'm not elected president, i know how to deal with trouble. and believe me, that's why i'm going to be elected president, folks. [ cheers and applause ] and we are leading in every poll, remember that, please. iran is a problem in iraq, a problem in syria, a problem in lebanon, a problem in yemen, and will be a very, very major problem for saudi arabia. literally, every day iran provides more and better weapons to support their puppet states. hezbollah, lebanon received, and i'll tell you what, it has received sophisticated anti-ship weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, and gps systems and rockets like

very few people anywhere in the world, and certainly very few countries have. now they're in syria trying to establish another front against israel from the syrian side of the golan heights. in gaza, iran is supporting hamas, and islamic jihad. and in the west bank, they're openly offering palestinians $7,000 per terror attack, and $30,000 for every palestinian be terrorist home that's been destroyed. a deplorable, deplorable situation. [ applause ] iran is financing military forces throughout the middle east, and it's absolutely incredible that we handed them over $150 billion to do even more toward the many horrible acts of terror.

[ applause ] secondly, we will totally dismantle iran's global terror network, which is big and powerful, but not powerful like us. [ cheers and applause ] iran has seeded terror groups all over the world. during the last five years, iran has perpetuated terror attacks in 25 different countries on five continents. they've got terror cells everywhere, including in the western hemisphere very close to home. iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world, and we will work to dismantle that reach, believe me. believe me. [ applause ] third, at the very least, we must enforce the terms of the

previous deal to hold iran totally accountable, and we will enforce it like you've never seen a contracted enforced before, folks. believe me. [ applause ] iran has already, since the deal is in place, test-fired ballistic missiles three times. those ballistic missiles with a range of 1,250 miles were designed to intimidate, not only israel, which is only 600 miles away, but also intended to frighten europe and some day maybe hit even the united states. and we're not going to let that happen. we're not letting it happen. and we're not letting it happen to israel, believe me. [ cheers and applause ] thank you.

thank you. do you want to hear something really shocking? as many of the great people in this room know, painted on those missiles in both hebrew and farsi is israel must be wiped off the face of the earth. you can forget that. [ cheers and applause ] what kind of demented minds write that in hebrew. and here's another, you talk about twisted? here's another twisted part. testing these missiles does not even violate the horrible deal that we've made. the deal is silent on test missiles. but those tests do violate the united nations security council resolutions. the problem is, no one has done anything about it. we will. we will, i promise, we will. [ cheers and applause ]

thank you. which brings me to my next point. the utter weakness and incompetence of the united nations -- [ cheers and applause ] the united nations is not a friend of democracy. it's not a friend to freedom. it's not a friend even to the united states of america, where as you know, it has its home. and it surely is not a friend to israel. [ cheers and applause ] with president obama and his

final year -- yea! [ cheers and applause ] he may be the worst thing to ever happen to israel, believe me. believe me. and you know it. and you know it better than anybody. so with the president in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a security council resolution on terms of an eventual agreement between israel and palestine. let me be clear. an agreement imposed by the united nations would be a total

and complete disaster. [ cheers and applause ] the united states must oppose this resolution, and use the power of our veto which i will use as president 100%. [ cheers and applause ] when people ask why, it's because that's not how you make a deal. deals are made when parties come together. they come to a table and they negotiate. each side must give up something. it's values -- we have to do something where there's value in exchange for something that it requires. that's what a deal is. a deal is really something that when we impose it on israel and palestine, we bring together a group of people that come up with something that's not going

to happen with the united nations. it will only further, very importantly, it will only further delegitimize israel. it will be a catastrophe and a disaster for israel. it's not going to happen, folks. [ cheers and applause ] and further, it would reward palestinian terrorism, because every day they're stabbing israelis, and even americans. just last week, american tailor allen force, a west point grad, phenomenal young person who served in iraq and afghanistan, was murdered in the street by a knife-wielding palestinian. you don't reward behavior like that. you cannot do it. [ cheers and applause ] there's only one way you treat

that kind of behavior. you have to confront it. [ applause ] so it's not up to the united nations to really go with a solution, it's really the parties that must negotiate a resolution themselves. they have no choice. they have to do it themselves, or it will never hold up anyway. the united states can be useful as a facilitator of negotiations, but no one should be telling israel that it must be -- and really, that it must abide by some agreement made by others thousands of miles away, that don't even really know what's happening to israel, to anything in the area. it's so preposterous. we're not going to let that happen. [ cheers and applause ]

when i'm president, believe me, i will veto any attempt by the u.n. to impose its will on the jewish state. it will be vetoed 100%. [ cheers and applause ] you see, i know about deal making. that's what i do. i wrote the art of the deal. one of the best-selling all-time, and i mean seriously, i'm saying one of, because i'll be criticized when i say "the" so i'll be diplomatic. i'll be criticized. i think it is number one, but why take a chance. [ laughter ] one of the all-time best-selling books about deals and deal-making, to make a great deal, you need two willing participants. we know israel is willing to deal. israel has been trying --

[ applause ] >> that's right. israel has been trying to sit down at the negotiating table without preconditions for years. you had camp david in 2000, where prime minister barack made an incredible offer, maybe even too generous. arafat rejected it. in 2008, prime minister omar made an equally generous offer. the palestinian authority rejected it also. then john kerry tried to come up with a framework, and abbas didn't even respond. not even to the secretary of state of the united states of america. they didn't even respond. when i become president, the days of treating israel like a second-class citizen will end, on day one. [ cheers and applause ]

thank you. and when i say something, i mean it. i mean it. i will meet with prime minister netanyahu immediately. i have known him for many years. and we'll be able to work closely together to help bring stability and peace to israel, and to the entire region. meanwhile, every single day you have rampant incitement and children being taught to hate israel, and to hate the jews, it has to stop. [ applause ] when you live in a society where the firefighters are the heroes, children want to be firefighters. when you live in a society where

athletes and movie stars are heroes, little kids want to be athletes and movie stars. in palestinian society, the heroes are those who murder jews. we can't let this continue. we can't let this happen any longer. [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] you cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. glorifying terrorists is a tremendous barrier to peace. it is a horrible, horrible way to think. it's a barrier that can't be broken. that will end, and it will end soon, believe me. [ cheers and applause ] in palestinian textbooks in mosques, you've got a culture of hatred that has been fermenting

there for years. if we want to achieve peace, they've got to go out, and they've got to start this educational process. they have to end education of hatred. they have to end it, and now. [ cheers and applause ] there is no moral equivalency. israel does not name public squares after terrorists. israel does not pay its children to stab random palestinians. you see, what president obama gets wrong about deal making is that he constantly applies pressure to our friends, and rewards our enemies. [ cheers and applause ] and you see that happening all the time. that pattern practiced by the

president and his administration, including former secretary of state hillary clinton, who is a total disaster, by the way. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] she and president obama have treated israel very, very badly. [ cheers and applause ] but it's repeated itself over and over again, and has done nothing to embolden those who hate america. we saw that with releasing the $150 billion to iran, in the hope that they would magically join the world community. it didn't happen. [ applause ] president obama thinks that applying pressure to israel will force the issue, but it's precisely the opposite that happens. already half of the population of palestine has been taken over

by the palestinian isis and hamas, and the other half refuses to confront the first half, so it's a very difficult situation that's never going to get solved unless you have great leadership right here in the united states. we'll get it solved, one way or the other. we will get it solved. [ cheers and applause ] but when the united states stands with israel, the chances of peace really rise. and rises exponentially. that's what will happen when donald trump is president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] we will move the american embassy to the eternal capital of the jewish people, jerusalem. [ cheers and applause ]

and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between america and our most reliable ally, the state of israel. [ cheers and applause ] the palestinians must come to the table, knowing that the bond between the united states and israel is absolutely totally unbreakable. about [ applause ] they must come to the table willing and able to stop the terror, being committed on a daily basis against israel. they must do that. [ applause ] and they must come to the table willing to accept that israel is

a jewish state, and it will forever exist as a jewish state. [ cheers and applause ] i love the people in this room. i love israel. i love israel. i've been with israel so long in terms of -- i've received some of my greatest honors from israel. my father before me, incredible. my daughter, ivanka, is about to have a beautiful jewish baby. [ cheers and applause ] in fact, it could be happening right now, which would be very nice as far as i'm concerned. so i want to thank you very much. this has been a truly great honor. thank you, everybody.

thank you. thank you very much. >> look at it this way, neither john kasich nor ted cruz can say that their daughter is about to have a jewish baby. chris matthews, watching and listening along with us. folks watching at home. if they notice something different about donald trump's delivery, he tonight turned to the tool used by so many politicians, and that was a teleprompter in this venue where words truly matter, chris. >> well, that's right. in the words, matching anybody's standards of a full support for the right, the right-wing position on everything here. he said the embassy should move, which, of course, is an incredibly controversial matter in the middle east. should we move our embassy to jerusalem. no one knows what the consequence would be in terms of violence. and that's why many a politician

has promised to do so, until they reach the white house. and then they decide not to. killing the iranian nuclear deal, he wants to do that. he wants to support the likud government, that the arab governments, any peace arrangement has to acknowledge israel as a jewish state, not as a sovereignty, but go beyond that and acknowledge it as a jewish state. in every particular, all the specifications have been met. he said i didn't come here to pander to you about israel, but i don't know what else he did but that. howard fineman is with us. you know these specifications as well as anyone. it seems like he checked them off pretty thoroughly. >> chris, just comports with my rule that you always start listening whenever a politician denies something that he hasn't yet been accused of doing. and yes, he said don't worry, i'm not going to pander.

and then he did it. and he saved, as brian williams so rightly said, he saved the home run pander to the end. because his daughter i converted to j daism. he used a teleprompter. he was very specific. he was actually much more specific in his support on the right-wing side of the scale. just more specific overall than even john kasich. but where he was specific, he came down on the side of the likud wing of the political spectrum in israel, and the hard right in the united states. both among jewish-americans and among evangelicals. on every point right up and down the line. before this speech started, i told the producer that i was looking to see if donald trump, who brags about being a deal maker, would have the patience to do the diligence to appear as

a deal maker who actually understood the details of the deal he was talking about. now, on some levels he did. but on other levels, he didn't. he said we're going to stop the terrorist rhetoric, one way or the other. what the heck does that mean? that's number one. the other key point to remember is, he says that he wants to demand an end to the hate speech, and the fear, and the talking up of confrontation among the palestinians and the opponents of israel. but i have to say, if you're going to do that, how do you pose as a peace maker when you have said the kind of incendiary things that donald trump has said here in the united states. including a temporary ban on travel to the united states by 1.6 billion muslims around the world. how can he -- that's why i thought the response in the audience to the extent that i could tell was somewhat muted on some of those points.

the people in the room like to clap for him, if they're for them, if they're republicans. i thought when hillary clinton's name was mentioned, it was interesting that it was a mixed response there. i think that's because people in that arena understood that donald trump may not be the perfect messenger for the kind of thing he was talking about. at least when it comes to tamping down terrorist rhetoric and nasty accusatory, almost violent rhetoric on the other side. because he's indulged in it himself here. let's be blunt, he has. i'm done. >> brian, i thought that was amazing. howard, i think the question is, were the people in that audience keeping the option open on hillary? i think you're getting to that. i think they are. >> yes, sure. i think they are. and i think hillary's speech this morning was pretty much full on down the line in support of many of the points, not the

moving the -- you know, some of the details may not be there, but i think hillary's been around long enough that they more or less trust hillary. she's got that whole -- she's been sort of marinated in that for decades. they know who she is. they know her moves. they know her friends. they know who she talks to. i think they know they can deal with hillary and trust hillary. with donald trump, there's a sort of kind of almost fated al attraction thing. he's up there saying all of these things they sort of love to hear in this crowd, in the aipac crowd. but i think they're aware as they think about it, that number one, he's not exactly a perfect messenger given his own record of controversial speech in the united states. and number two, when he says something like, we're going to get the palestinians to stop behaving that way one way or another, what does that mean? and i'm sure they are very aware of the fact that they were being pandered to. i think they were impressed that