about the efforts to defeat isis, more generally, and many other issues will come up in that press conference, later this evening. >> thank you, ron allen. we're out of time. "mtp daily" starts right now. if it's friday, get ready for the week end to with obama v. trump. the end of the nuclear summit means a presidential press conference. and we know someone is going to get asked about donald trump's nuclear weapons and it could be the end of a very bad week for trump with obama. but believe it or not, this week could have been worse for trump. we'll explain. "mtp daily" starts right now. good evening. happy friday. i'm chuck todd in washington, and welcome to "mtp daily." what a week it has been.

i feel like we say that a lot, but this one ain't over yet. folks, this was donald trump's worst week of his campaign. his campaign manager arrested on monday. the fallout continues to grow over his comments about abortion. but it could have actually been an even worse week for trump if there was a bigger focus on his foreign policy. we're going to dive into some of the most surprising comments trump has made since his campaign began, that have been completely overshadowed by all the recent noise. you're going to want to see this, trust me. and later this hour, we are awaiting president obama's press conference that we told you about. it follows the conclusion of what's been an intense two-day session with world leaders here in washington, at president obama's nuclear security summit. a summit that may or may not live beyond the obama presidency. we'll, of course, take you there when the press conference begins later this hour. but the sessions there come amid increasing anxiety over global terrorism and fears of a rogue nuclear terrorist attack. it's a terrifying scenario that

president obama addressed when opening today's talks. >> we know that al qaeda has long-sought nuclear materials, individuals involved in the attacks in paris and brussels videotaped a senior manager who works at a belgian nuclear facility. isil has already used chemical weapons, including mustard gas in syria and iraq. there is no doubt that if these mad men ever got their hands on a nuclear bomb or nuclear material, they most certainly would use it to kill as many innocent people as possible. >> the summit also comes in the wake of controversial remarks made by the republican front-runner, donald trump, on several matters of foreign policy, including nukes. this week, trump said he would not rule out using nuclear weapons in the middle east or in europe. he's also signalled a willingness to allow japan and south korea to acquire nuclear weapons, a scenario that the white house criticized as, quote, catastrophic for global security. and that brings us to the

question that journalists, fellow candidates, and world leaders have been asking for months now. what exactly is trump's foreign policy? he's overpowered the republican field, in part due to his perceived strength on those matters, from battling isis to taking on russia, china, iran, mexico, you name it. even though most of trump's positions have been routinely criticized by those who oppose him as overly aggressive or simply reckless. we dove into months of interviews, comments, statements and positions that trump has taken on foreign policy matters, since he became a candidate. and here's what we found. as you might expect, trump takes a wrecking ball approach to nearly everything. treaties, trade deals, agreements, you name it. and he does so with brute force. let's start with trade. here's a clip reel on that topic. >> ford is going to build a $2.5 billion car and truck and parts manufacturing plant in mexico. we're going to charge you a 35%

tax. >> there is a north american free trade agreement. >> and there shouldn't be. it's a disaster. >> but it is there. if you're president, you're going to have to live with. >> we will either renegotiate it or rewill break it. >> if the mexicans don't pay for the wall, will you start a trade war with mexico? >> you know, i don't mind trade wars when we're losing $58 billion a year. you want to know the truth, we're losing so much. the tpp is a horrible deal. this is one of the worst trade deals, and i would, yes, rather not have it. in the history of the world, there has never been a greater theft than what china has taken out of the united states. >> you talk about free trade, it's not free trade, it's stupid trade. >> you'd be hard-pressed to find a single trade agreement, by the way, that he would support these days. there's also not a treaty that trump likes. he's called nato obsolete. here's trump on the geneva convention and the u.n..

>> geneva convention, we have all sorts of rules and regular layi regularlations, our soldiers are afraid fight. the united nations is not a friend of democracy, it's not a friend freedom, it's not a friend even to the united states of america, where, as you know, it has its home. >> for trump, even the most complicated foreign policy challenges can be solved through the art of the deal. even peace in the middle east. >> the hardest thing to do is that in terms of deal, if you're a deal person, right, the ultimate deal is that deal. israel, palestine, if you're going to make it, that probably is the hardest deal there is to make. >> well, it's not a real estate deal, is how rubio attacked trump on that one. but, folks, when you delve past some of the bluster, things do get complicated and confusing, in fact, the more trump talks about foreign policy, the more people are confused about what his foreign policy is. for example, look back at an interview i conducted with him

last summer on the iran yoon nuclear deal, one of the few deals he says he wouldn't rip up, even though he says it will lead to a nuclear holocaust. >> it's like this horrible deal with iran. they are going to take over parts of the world that you wouldn't believe and i think it's going to lead to nuclear holocaust. >> what do you do on day one, though -- >> i've heard a lot of people say, we're going to rip up the deal. i would police that contract so tough that they don't have a chance. >> trump later clarified he would renegotiate the deal, telling "usa today," that he would also impose new sanctions and seek the release of american prisoners, which leads us to trump's ever-evolving and changing views when you try to put some meat on the bonus of some of his policies, for instance, here's some of the brute strength from trump on the topic of isis. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. i would just bomb those suckers.

that's right. i would blow up the pipes, i would blow up the refineries. i would blow up every single inch. there would be nothing left. >> you would rule in the possibility of using nuclear weapons against isis? >> i'm never going to rule anything out. >> but many military experts agree you cannot defeat isis with air power alone. you also probably need ground troops. and look at how trump ties himself into knots when asked about sending u.s. ground troops in to fight isis. >> we really have no choice. we have to knock out isis. we have to knock the hell out of them. i would listen to the generals, but i'm hearing numbers of 20,000 to 30,000. we have to knock them out, fast. look, we're not allowed to fight. we can't fight. i wouldn't deploy 20,000 or 30,000. i would get people from that part of the world to put up the troops and certainly give them air power and air support. and some military support. but i would never put up 20,000 or 30,000. >> those two comments, by the way, were just ten days apart. and here's where it gets even more curious. despite trump's hawkish tone on

isis, there are times he often sounds like a dove when it comes to the middle east. here's what he told me about u.s. intervention last fall. if saddam and gadhafi were still there and assad were strong, do you think the middle east would be safer? >> it's not even a contest, chuck. it's not even a contest. iraq is a disaster. >> so it would be better off if -- >> don't forget, isis came out of iraq. >> i understand. >> the leftovers -- >> but let me stop you. if saddam and gadhafi, things would be more stable? >> of course it would be. >> and he's gone further than that. >> look at libya. look at iraq, look at the mess we have after spending $2 trillion, thousands of lives, wounded warriors all over the place, who i love, all over. we have nothing. >> at one point in the campaign, of course, he didn't push back or pull back that idea of impeachment for president bush over iraq war. then there's the real controversial stuff, folks. trump said he would support killing family members of terrorists. he says he wants to aggressively expand torture. even if those policies violate

international law. >> what would you do, as commander in chief, if the u.s. military refused to carry out those orders? >> they won't refuse. they're not going to refuse me, believe me. i've never had any problem leading people. if i say do it, they're going to do it. that's what leadership is all about. >> but a day after he said that, he clarified that position in a statement to the "wall street journal" saying, quote, i will not order a military officer to disobey the law. it is clear as president i will be bound by laws just like all americans and li will meet thos responsibilities. yet in the wake of brussels, he renewed his call to expand the torture laws, to include a lot more than waterboarding. and as you might expect, world leaders have united in their opposition to some of the things trump has said. here's just a sampling of those comments from around the globe. british prime minister david cameron, quote, i think his remarks are divisive, stupid, and wrong, and i think if he came to visit our country, he would unite us all against him.

saudi prince allowi, donald trump, you are a disgrace, not only to the gop, but to all america. withdraw from the u.s. presidential race, as you will never win. mexican president enrique pena nieto had this to say about trump's rhetoric, quote, that's the way mussolini arrived and hitler arrived. and, a possible trump presidency and the unpredictability he could bring to the global stage has led u.n. diplomats to try to speed through deals on issues from migration to middle east peace before trump could ever possibly walk into the oval office. in fact, it leads one senior u.n. diplomat to say, quote, everything that we can do in 2016, we should do in 2016, because, we know what we're dealing with. well, here to help us sort through it all, foreign policy's senior diplomatic reporter, colin lynch. mr. lynch, welcome to the show, sir. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> you know, your column, which had a lot of -- and understandably, why folks decided to be anonymous and some

of the things they said to you, it was quite striking, and to the point where some might say, are they trying to get involved in our election too much? >> well, generally, they try to stay out of the election as much as possible, but somehow, trump has had the ability to draw them in. i mean, several weeks back, the u.n. high commissioner for human rights made a number of public statements calling trump's remarks about keeping muslims out of the country grossly irresponsible. that's not the sort of thing that he would do. he is a jordanian diplomat, very correct. doesn't want to get into the election, but he's been saying stuff that is so controversial, so contrary to some of the sort of fundamental views that the u.n. kind of body, at least in terms of the u.n. human rights office has on human rights, that they feel they have to speak up. you had a number of critical remarks from the outgoing british ambassador in washington, and you had, you know, multiple diplomats talk to me over the last couple of

weeks, and they're very alarmed at the prospect. they never thought that it would come to this. but he is now the republican front-runner. and they're trying to think of ways that they can address a lot of keys issues before the end of the year. they think the obama administration is going to be the most multi-lateral that they could hope for. and so they want to do business. >> you know, i'm just curious. here's a guy who's got golf courses in dubai. he's got golf courses in scotland, certainly has hotels around the world. does he have any personal relationships with any key world leaders? >> i don't know. i mean, he speaks fairly glowingly of president putin. he has at the u.n., he has had a kind of chilly relationship with the former u.n. general secretary, kofi annan. they had a little bit of a feud when trump built the world towers rshl building across the street from the u.n., which kind of cast a shadow over it. he hasn't sat down with ban ki-moon for a meeting, but i

think he does deals with people he needs to do business deals with. but i don't think he has a high-profile meeting with world leaders. >> everything you've been able to deduce, this is your area of expertise, how would you characterize donald trump? isolationist, interventionist, where would you put him? >> just impossible to pin down. you hear the remarks about wanting to take a neutral position on the middle east peace process, and then he goes in front of aipac, pro-israel lobby, and he's very much, you know, all in the israeli camp. and very, very hard line. i was talking to a latin american diplomat a few days ago, and he was saying, the thing is, we don't know what he really stands for. maybe we don't like what he says about trade, but we don't know whether he believes it. we don't know the team. he has named a couple of individuals who are running, his

kind of foreign policy, but they're not people that foreign diplomats at the u.n. know or are comfortable with. they -- you know, if it were condi rice, they would know what to expect. if they were john bolton, they would know what to expect. but they don't know what he really stands for. and that's the biggest point of conventi contention. >> it's interesting you brought up trade. that's the one thing he's consistent on. he has not tried to have it both ways on tpp or deals with china or nafta or anything like that. it certainly means, i assume, that the wto might become relevant for the united states if there is a president trump. >> it would become very relevant. but, i, one of the things, it's going to be extraordinary for me. if he goes down the path that he is saying that he's going to go down, which is to renegotiate these trade treaties, oh, my goodness, it's going to be -- it's going to be a real battle. >> well, what would happen -- >> multiple countries including very close allies, right? >> close allies.

i mean, this is something that is just -- clearly, donald trump is tapping into a great sense of anxiety in the country about the impact that trade has had over sort of working conditions for people on the lower rung in the united states. but this is a process that's very controversial now in sort of the international arena. and this is what our -- you know, this is what our diplomatic allies and even some who are not diplomatic allies want to have -- they want to have more trade -- >> i was just going to say, let's go to the next level. in many levels, u.s. -- the united states' foreign policy community over the years has created trade agreements, essentially. this is the brain child of the united states, is it not? >> right. when he takes a poke at the united nations, it's sort of in the same category of these constitutions, post-world war ii institutions, that the u.s. has set up to sort of manage its

relations with the world. and a lot of things that trump is saying is that he's willing to throw a wrench into that and turn everything on its head. so i think it creates a great sense of disquiet and anxiety. and also, a big question mark, as i was saying earlier about, what does he really believe in and what is he committed to doing? >> the more we talk, the more we still don't know. colum lynch, thanks for talking me. we're expect president obama will end up having to respond to donald trump's latest comments about how he would use nuclear weapons when he holds his news conference later this hour. we'll bring that to you when it begins. but still ahead, a look behind the fuel in fact bernie sanders campaign. you don't want to miss this piece. it's fascinating. we'll be right back 7

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clearest attacks yet. the two will come face to face. all three republican candidates had been invited to a fish fry. donald trump is sending a surrogate, sarah palin, in his case. chris jansing has been reporting from wisconsin ahead of next week's prima. she joins me now. chris, i have to say, it is -- you feel the tense, the tensenesstense ness of this campaign going. kasich unloading a bid on cruz, which is a response to cruz's campaign going after him. meanwhile, are they learning -- are they somehow taking their eye off the trump ball? that seems to be a potential mistake. >> reporter: look, i think that they're looking a to the establishment here to keep their eye on the trump ball. it's extraordinary, really, what's going on here. you talk about the escalating tension, talking to people in the republican party, they can't wait for tuesday to happen. they feel like anti-trump momentum is on their side. we've been talking about this for days. but more than that, they see an opportunity long-term.

and i just talked to somebody who is with a big lobbying organization. they've been doing polls all along, they have not been published, told me a couple of fascinating things, chuck. number one, it's not just women. they are seeing high unfavorables for trump across virtually every demographic. he says the secret sauce, talk radio, which has been part of that establishment group that's been going after trump. beyond that, he was surprised, even as he's been following this, to see, he only sees an opening for trump in two congressional districts. he thinks worst-case scenario, trump leads here with three delegates. best-case, six delegates. and that is enough, they think, to help him, to help stop him from getting to 1,237. so we're here tonight for 40 bucks, by the way, you get not just the all you can eat fish fry. you get the proud to be a republican button, the portraits of the presidents who have all been here, but you get to see three of those radio talk show hosts. i asked somebody, why is donald

trump not coming here. why is he sending sarah palin. he said it would be a little bit like him coming into the lion's den. >> very interesting. on that delegate math, the way it works, it's very possible kasich could finish third statewide, but win delegates and trump gets shut out, right? >> that is possible. it's proportional, by congressional district. and this guy has been in politics, on the ground, working campaigns before going over to the other side, if you want to call it that, a few years ago, he's used to crunching these kind of numbers. his best estimate is that it ends up, trump, 3, kasich, 3, and the rest go to ted cruz. that's the way it's looking right now. >> that would be quite the sweep there for ted cruz and quite the statement against trump. chris, thanks very much. let's turn now to the democratic side. sanders looks to be heading for some victory in wisconsin. the question is, how big. which has the clinton campaign focusing, deciding to shift some of their attention away from

trump in the general election and back on sanders. clinton added campaign events in both wisconsin and event to her schedule this weekend, and it is about the only win that sanders backed. we now know his campaign will have plenty of cash to continue to be a thorn in clinton's side from now through june. in fact, the campaign reported raising $44 million in march. that beats the $43.5 million they raised in february. and overall, the campaign has raised nearly $109 million during the first quarter of 2016. let me repeat, $109 million in the first three months of this year calendar year. our own kasie hunt took a closer look at who is behind these massive fund-raising numbers. she went all the way to vashon, washington. it's a small island with bernie sanders' most dedicated donor base. >> bernie sanders is running well behind hillary clinton. >> and i have 2.5 million more votes than bernie sanders.

>> reporter: losing candidates usually run out of money and drop out, but not bernie. >> we have received now over 6 million individual campaign contributions. >> reporter: sanders' insurgent campaign is keeping pace with the clinton fund-raising juggernaut, without holding a single closed-door high-dollar fund-raiser. >> anyone know what the average contribution is? >> reporter: so who are the 2 million people who have helped keep sanders' white house hopes alive? dozens of them live on vashon, a tiny island off the coast of seattle, and the place that gives sanders more money per capita than anywhere in america. >> i think the reason why people are into bernie sanders around here is the same reason why there's no starbucks. >> is that hippie tendencies? >> yeah. i don't know if you've ever heard us referred to as weed island. >> reporter: just 11,000 people live on vashon, where the median

income is under $60,000. >> have you given money to bernie sanders? >> yes, i've gave $35. >> $35? >> yes. >> have you gave money to a politician before? >> no. >> reporter: why this time? >> i trust him. >> reporter: they feel this gives them a chance to buy into a message that others feel out of reach. >> reporter: other sanders donors are giving even if they can't really afford it. >> was ate sacrifice to give you $30? >> yeah, we're on the ground floor of our business, so everything's a little tight. but seems worth it to just pitch in when i can. >> reporter: committed to making a point, even if sanders loses in the end. >> i just wanted to be able to show that there was a ground swell of support, and i think anytime you can show support like that, it will move the rest of the party, regardless of whether or not he wins. >> and kasie hunt joins me now. kasie, on one hand, nobody is going to be surprised that it's

an island off the coast of seattle where the heart and soul of the bernie sanders campaign. it fits one stereotype that people might have of it. but this is 2 million people. this is, you know, this is not a awesome army of sorts. >> it's not. it's huge. and i mean, part of it is cultural, right? there are people in states like washington state, california, out west, et cetera, very liberal places that don't feel like they normally get too much of a say in a democratic primary, maybe, but are, you know, tilted towards bernie. and i think that's a little bit of what's going on here. but i think, more broadly, this idea that you're able to buy into a system that otherwise feels rigged is what's driving a lot of these people. i heard that over and over and over again as i talked to people, on vashon, and across the country, when you go to these bernie sanders rallies. it's the same thing as what's going on more broadly, right? people feeling cut out of the process. >> and i'm curious, it isn't -- i get the sense, and tell me if

i'm wrong here, that the folks, they're not anti-clinton. they're anti the democratic party. and that's why they've invested in sanders. like, it's not personal on clinton. it's more like, well, she's just a part of the machine. >> honestly, i think that's exactly it. i think if it's anti anything, it's anti-machine. it's also pro-bernie. because when he -- the rhetoric he uses is very oriented towards this group of people and their campaign is so attuned to how people online react to how their supporters, these people who are donating to them react to things, and they're extraordinarily strategic about it. and one of the other pieces of this is, a lot of the people i talk to have an automatic donation set up, every month. so they kick in, you know, 30 bucks a month. and when day get that e-mail that says, hey, we really need to beat our fund-raising goal for february to show people there wasn't a dip, we lost these contests, but we're really

still fighting, then those people give $50 more. and they can tap into that until the end of the year. >> last question, are these folks transferable? will they become donors for life to the democratic party? or is this bernie and elizabeth warren and is that it? >> i don't see this as being something that's transferable to the democratic party. but it's possible that bernie sanders himself is capable to converting a lot of these people to the democratic nominee, especially if the republican nominee is donald trump. but a lot of people missed what was going on with him from the beginning. i don't think anyone they have out there right now is really going be able to do it. it's going to take a unique message like a bernie sanders or an elizabeth warren. i think it's why you're seeing hillary clinton being so careful right now with bernie sanders. >> somewhat, although she is getting a little cranky about it. anyway, kasie hunt on the bernie beat and getting to vashon,

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if you want a campaign slogan for 2016, it would be, everybody sucks. other than kasich, everybody is disliked by a far great number of people than like them. >> i'm going to edit rush a little bit. other than kasich and bernie. sanders also has a net positive rating. but rush limbaugh with a quick summation of the presidential

race, which is mostly something everybody can agree with. i think even liberals with agree with rush on this one. chris cillizza, an msnbc reporter for "the washington post," also runs the fix blog, republican strategist robert traynham, and ruth marcus, a columnist for "the washington post." welcome all. everybody sucks. >> i want that on a hat. >> you know, it's not the lego movie, everybody is awesome, it is not that. it is remarkable, the longer this race goes. and this happened, i remember talking about this in 2014, where the senate race -- and i remember thinking, bioin each case, the contested race would be won by the person who was the least hated, but they were going to be hated. and trump/clinton will put us there. >> it's interesting to think about. because, you know, we're normally talking about an enthusiasm gap, right? this candidate generates more enthusiasm than these other candidates. now we're going to have -- i don't though what the word will be. maybe the suckiness gap, if i'm allowed to say that. it's the sort of -- it's an enthusiasm -- it's not a gap,

like an enthusiasm chasm. >> it is. and it is -- you know, he brought up kasich, sanders, same thing. the two candidates everybody seems to like, everybody says, which they don't win. >> which is part of the reason they like them. they don't know that much about them. it's because the other candidates destroyed each other and allowed mike huckabee to run up the middle. it wasn't necessarily like an affirmative of bernie sanders, especially kasich, who was by far the least known of that group. >> but even so, i'm sorry to -- even so, i do have to -- we're going to give it back -- >> "the washington post" -- >> just -- now i'm going to forget what i'm going to say, but in reality, kasich has behaved in a way that is -- >> yes. >> and he kind of deserves to not have that sucky label attached to him. >> he's the only one that's been running a positive campaign, at least on the republican side. you can even make the argument that sanders is making, somewhat

of an inroads with the positive campaign on the democratic side. but look, everyone can agree with rush, that this is a sucky campaign. the american electorate is pretty much in a funk right now. the question becomes, is whether or not these unfavorable ratings that trump has, what is it, like 88% with women? 92% with hispanics, is whether or not the republican establishment is going to wake up and say on the second ballot, enough is enough. >> let's read in a little bit more to rush. it was interesting, i had charlie sykes, who was the wisconsin conservative talk radio, the king of wisconsin conservative talk radio, and he was pretty angry at the national guys. he wouldn't -- he named hannity by name, but also inferring that levin and rush and hannity and these guys were enablers of trump a little bit. but what i thought was interesting is that rush seems frustrated with trump. you're starting to hear it. >> and alex burns wrote a really good piece in "the new york times" today, which he has newt, another one of these people who rallied to the trump cause, six weeks ago, eight, two months

ago, newt saying, this -- he's so off-message, he seems unable to pivot to be more presidential. i think there's some of that, like, rush and those guys, you know -- i'm not convinced trump was ever and is a conservative. >> no, but what rush loved was -- >> he likes the confirmation. >> this guy was going to burn down the establishment. and now -- >> now the male version of sarah palin. >> it's a re-thinking there as they see. inlg they thought, he's doing this bit, but once we move into the next bit, he's going to do a new act and be more presidential. >> and pivot to be more substantiative and more presidential and he has yet to do that. he's going the other direction. >> and let me say that anybody who was watching trump closely, and who believed, either that he was substantively qualified or inclined to get himself to be substantively qualified, either on foreign policy or domestic policy, or who believed that he was sort of psychologically able to behave in a presidential

manner has just not been paying attention to donald trump. he is the -- what we're discovering now, he doesn't act presidential and he doesn't know things about policy, we should have known then and they should have known then. >> the disconnect is the huge trump supporters out there that you cannot. >> and i think a lot of the establishment people are very afraid to upset that apple cart, because that's really real. >> and they have to say past performances is not indicative of future behavior. but past performance is probably indicative of future behavior. >> the last debate, in the last debate, he clearly made an attempt to not engage. he was different than the donald trump -- >> he wasn't the donald. >> he refused to sort of -- >> he was coached to say as little as possible. >> he just didn't say much. again, that's not presidential -- >> it's a lack of substance. >> yeah. >> we will continue this after the break. we'll actually probably continue it during the break. but we'll have more after the break. we're awaiting comments from

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minute now, and we do expect president obama gets asked about trump and nukes, sort of fits the topic. but i want to go to the democratic side, a week that began, i think, and frankly, as it frankly, as it went on, hillary clinton was almost embracing the idea that she gets to run against trump. >> wouldn't you? >> then it was almost objects mirrors may be closer than they appear. suddenly, from what i understand, it really almost hillary clinton herself, the cam pants to move on from bernie. she's not ready. >> she is a cautious person. she has been in bernie sanders' position before. i think she is overwhelmingly likely to get the nomination, but the worst thing that she could do for herself and campaign is to act like it's in the bag and to assume that. so they're doing the smart thing. she is -- she can run against trump, but can't ignore sanders. >> here is sanders' problem for tuesday. what will it take for him to be the bigger story, if donald

trump loses, is there any way sanders can be the bigger story that night? >> no. >> if he won by 20, 50. >> no. >> that's right. there is only room for one story. >> no news there. i don't know what bernie sanders is doing right now. perhaps this is all about philadelphia. perhaps this is about trying to influence the party. >> what do you say that for? what do you mean? >> why is hillary running eight years ago? >> he can win some states. >> for what, though? if i'm bernie sanders, i have to ask, what is the purpose -- >> there is the ninth street, that's where the fbi is. >> john kasich, 22% of the delegates left, so mathematically, he is eliminated, but you figure, you got trump and cruz, and -- >> why did hillary clinton stay? >> that's a good -- her voters. >> he is getting his message

out. he is raising money. he has the money. >> influencing the process. >> so, yeah. sorry, robert. >> that's okay. >> we love you. we do. >> i love you more. to make a long story short, i'm not sure why bernie sanders is in this race, other than to influence this all the way to the convention. >> also you never know. >> in terms of hillary losing this? >> there is this cloud over her head with the fbi. >> we all know, whatever you think, we know it's coming to a head. >> right. >> we know it's coming toward the end of the process. they're going to say something. >> they don't want it to drag onto the fall. they know they have to wrap it up before the convention. any way, quick pause. we're going to sneak in another break. president obama is running a little late, but we do expect to see him shortly. so for that we're going to pay a couple of bills. we'll be right back.

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imagine, but let's say he wins four of the eight congressional districts and takes 4 of the, if cruz gets 30, and you get 12 he has not been someone who has gotten deeply into the delegate math. it's not like he gets the abicus. we had the one marquette law school poll, showed him ahead in february, everyone assumed. >> but now up by ten points. >> the expectation is with cruz. >> i think so, but i also think that if trump doesn't -- if trump is behind, and does not lose the state after the week he has had. >> it's over. stop trump is over. >> i don't know what else to say. you can't have had a worst week. >> if he does lose, i'm doing it to you again, if he does lose, i guarantee you, he will get out

and spin it wasn't a real loss. i watched him in new hampshire after he lost iowa. >> threw after at me, blah, blah, blah. he will spin this as art fully as he can't, he wasn't expected to win in the first place. i do believe this is a psychological blow to him. if he does loses wisconsin, he limps to cleveland. >> what happens to fargo. >> wisconsin, not because of symbolism, not because of practical, you can -- >> on the delegate fight, north dakota is actually more consequential. >> robert's point, i do think there has been the rocky iv, like gets hit and he sees blood and it's different. he has lost new hampshire, but this is a place -- lost iowa, i'm sorry. this is a place i think he

thought he was going to win sort of like iowa and now he's ndoes that change anything. >> two weeks before the wisconsin primary, two weeks after. it gets to be outside influence. >> and the more sustained the attention, the more possibility there is for sort of mischief and voter interest and changing people's minds. and so it will be really interesting. he is way ahead in new york, right. but. >> we'll see what happens. there could be a real. >> ripple effect. >> and does it end up being, and robert seemed to hint at this. do you buy this, chris? double digits if he wins, apiecers, they say you know what, we can stop this. >> i'm telling you, read that al alex burn story, they see the writing on the wall, who were sort of kind of like if he wins wisconsin, they're going to be for him, and this will -- the

never trump, stop trump movement, this will help coalesce it, because it's possibility. >> robert, ruth, thank you much. have a great friday. we'll be back monday with more "mtp daily." it's sunday, it's "meet the press." nbc will bring it to you live, instead of me, my man, ari melber will pick up coverage right now. ari, take it away. you are a watching our live coverage from president obama, the nuclear security summit in washington. the big exception of russia's vladimir putin gathered for the summit preventing terror groups from getting nuclear weapons. president obama talked about it in his opening remarks today. >> because of our coordinated efforts, no one has surk