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president bill clinton is on the stump. in albany, he stressed his wife's record as senator, urging voters to go to the polls. take a listen. >> i want you to spend between now and tuesday telling people they need to show up, be counted, be heard. she was there for you, you need to be there for her. >> bernie sanders is heading back from rome this hour after meeting briefly with pope francis this morning. >> there s there a political advantage in this trip do you think? >> i don't know if there is or there isn't. the disadvantage is i'm not in new york right now but we'll let voters make up that decision. this was an invitation that i received and i could not refuse. >> on the republican side, ted cruz is at the republican state convention in caspar, wyoming, hoping to net the state's 14 remaining at large delegates while donald trump, heavily favored to win here in new york on tuesday, continues to rail against republican party officials over what he considers an unfair primary system. >> the system is a bad, bad
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system and they've got to do something about it. the republican national committee, they better get going because i'll tell you what, you'll have a rough july at that convention. >> for the latest on trump's busy day of campaigning, i'm joined by jacob rascon. trump telling the rnc to expect a rough july at the convention if they don't address his concerns about the nomination process. is this an escalation rhetoric from the front-runner? >> it is, because the last we heard from trump in this op-ed he wrote for the "wall street journal" he said he wanted to work together with the rnc and, in fact, even his new advisor, his new top person he hired from scott walker's campaign was on "meet the press" talking about how they're going to work together. so it was a little odd to hear him today mention the rnc by name and saying it's going to be rough in july. he went on to explain he was talking about the voters -- he
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was speaking on behalf of the voters who didn't get their shot. their real chance in colorado. mind you this comes at a time in wyoming where today donald trump is expected to lose big again just like in colorado ted cruz is there, donald trump is not. cruz is expected to sweep almost all if not all of the delegates there donald trump only got one delegate at the convention. same situation as colorado. expected to lose big and here donald trump is in new york because he knows his path, the very narrow path to the 1237 delegates would begin with a giant win in new york. he's been out heavy all week. he really is counting on today and losing wyoming. >> you're talking about the rally where you are today. donald trump is heading your way for another rally within the next hour or so what's the scene ahead of the event?
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are we expecting him to hammer home against the rnc or is he going to take on a different message? >> what we've seen this week which has been different from other rallies in the past months is that he has localized statistics about unemployment and manufacturing jobs. he's had a sharper message since sunday right after his campaign it this reset button, he's come out with more notes than usual, those statics and he's kept his speeches shorter than usual. in fact, last night he went on for only 30 minutes which was hundley unusual for him. so where we are in an airport hangar, not unlike other airport hangars. it's in the middle of nowhere, makes it less likely protesters will show up but we're well ahead of the rally and you have maybe a thousand people here. >> jacob rascon live in dexter, new york, following that trump rally for us. appreciate it. turning to the democratic side, hillary clinton is campaigning out west in california ahead of that state's primary on june 7. she is set to speak any minute
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in los angeles. tonight she will attend the second of two fund-raisers hosted by amal and george clooney. then back to new york for a day of campaigning sunday. scott cohn is covering the clinton campaign for us today live for us in los angeles. scott, there's been a lot of focus on the upcoming new york primary. she's taken time away from that heading out to california but california is an equally important contest out there. what are you hearing from the campaign and why was it so important for them to break what they're doing in new york to get out there for this fund-raising? >> a lot of reasons, ayman. this is a huge prize that is normally an afterthought because the california primary takes place on june 7 but this is not a normal election year. no one's taking anything for granted. look at what's in stake in terms of delegates. 548 delegates on the democratic side, the rest of pledged super delegates. so for the republicans 172, a
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huge price for them as well and it could be deice i. the vote totals in california are also huge. 4.8 million voters here in los angeles, four of the top five top voting counties in southern california so it's a big deal. hillary clinton has a substantial lead but as i said no one is taking anything for granted. but the real reason she's out here so early, make no mistake, has more to do about money. there was the fund-raiser with the clooneys in san francisco, another at their residence this evening in los angeles, in southern california. a fund-raiser in between that, in koreatown this take is as much as $15 million and it's as much about money, probably more about money than it is about votes. ayman. >> nbc's scott cohn live in what is a loud hillary clinton rally. appreciate that update. for more on the democratic race, i'm joined by strategist evan teese and the deputy editor
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of yahoo! news. evan, if i can stop with you. ann thompson asked bernie sanders about what comes next after the new york primary. take a listen to what he said. i'll get your reaction on the back end. >> if you don't win new york, can you win the nomination? >> i think we can. i don't want to speculate and my hope is we will win new york. it's a tough state for us. secretary clinton has been elected to the senate there twice. you have voting rule which is make it impossible for independents to participate in the democratic primary. we do very well with independents but we're going to fight and we have a chance to do very well. >> so obviously new york is a close primary state, independ t independents can't vote, but do you think sanders would be doing better against clinton in new york if it was an open primary not a closed? >> there's no doubt he would be. blank voters, as we call them here, because there's no such thing as an independent voter in new york, would be able to vote for him if there was the general election but they're going to stay home largely on tuesday and that really hurts a candidate like that. new york's voting laws are strict.
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you need to register to vote many weeks before the primary here and that means a lot of people who are just getting energized about his qualm pain now, especially young people, wont vote on tuesday. >> do you think it was the right decision for him to leave new york when he has an uphill battle to go an attend this event. >> in that interview with your reporter, you can see him setting expectations fairly low, he has a 17-point gap with hillary clinton according to the nbc poll. the fact that she's in l.a. and he's in italy tells you about how they feel about this race and where it's going. >> dan, this week we saw the democratic primary, the debate take a different tone than what we've seen in the past by some accounts all of the gloves were taken off between the two candidates. it was different than what we've seen in the past. do you think it's safe to say we are entering into a new phase of the campaigning between these two candidates? the tone will be markedly different now, perhaps more negative? >> i think it's partly cumulative.
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these two candidates have been going after each other for a long time so there's a tendency to get each other's skin a bit more but it's also make or break for bernie sanders. he has to change the narrative because she's got the math, she's got the big delegate lead. and so i think he's trying to rally his base and make this more exciting and really go after hillary so i think we will see more of that for the remaining weeks and months. >> evan, yesterday bill clinton made a comment yesterday, i wanted to read about it, it was an anti-wall street -- a comment about anti-wall street sentiments, particularly for the bernie sanders supporters that are out there. he said "i think it's fine that -- actually, we'll play the soundbite, here it is. >> i think it's fine that all these young students have been so enthusiastic for her opponent and sound so good. just shoot every third person on wall street and that will be
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fine. >> the bernie sanders campaign called those comments disparaging. do you think he can make those comments and not have a negative impact? >> i think it's important to remember that new york city and the state balance their checkbook based on how wall street duds. it's an economic engine for the state. so i think he was as much addressing that real issue for new yorkers as he was addressing a national issue for bernie sanders but he also is speaking truth. i mean, for hillary she has connection to wall street that bernie sanders doesn't have and she's not going to get the voters that care as much about wall street as bernie sanders supporters do. >> i'd say his huge popularity and particularly in this city far outweighs the occasional times that he does go off message. the clinton campaign knows that but he's valuable here and you will see a lot of bill clinton in the next three days. >> dan, evan, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. we'll be joined minutes from
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now by new york governor andrew cuomo to discuss the state's primary but next we'll go about 2,000 miles west of here to casper, wyoming, where the state's republican party is meeting to select more than a dozen delegates. and tomorrow jacob soboroff will take you on the campaign trail to show you why delegates matter to the candidates as much as votes. watch the delegate hunter tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern time here on msnbc. we'll be right back. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. i missed a payment. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad.
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we're awaiting results of the 14 delegates selected at today's state republican convention. ted cruz looks poised to do well. he already picked up a large share of wyoming's delegates at last month's county conventions. this as a top aide to donald trump says they are prepared to creed the state to ted cruz. nbc's hallie jackson is live to us in casper this morning,
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hallie? >> we're on a bit of a lunch break, folks are milling about here while the ballots are getting ready to be counted. the process will take a couple hours but when it's over later this afternoon we will know the 14 delegates of the 26 plus three unbound headed from wyoming to the national convention in cleveland come july. right now it looks as though ted cruz has the edge. he was the only candidate to speak here today and i want to show you the shirts all over here. "cowboys for cruz 2016." we've been seeing these on a lot of people. cruz has a big presence at the convention, at that particular state convention. one gentleman is preferring a couple people here. they picked cruz delegates or kasich delegates or trump delegates. you can choose undecided delegates and i spoke with one gentleman who said that is his pick why he wants wyoming to be wooed at the national convention. he wants toll pigss to drill down into wyoming issues. as he said, hey, if you give him -- we want the dinner and flowers, we don't want to give
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it away right now basically. so it's strategizing for folks coming here, local activists, people in the grass-roots looking to have a presence from cleveland. let me give you an example here. we have another prop for you ayman, this is the cruz delegate slate. they want people to choose the names on this ballot so you go through on the actual ballot, match it up, this is what the cruz campaign is going to happen and you turn everything in. so we're a couple hours away from this. cruz during his speech talked about issues that are important to folks in wyoming like, for example, land rights. he got a big ovation when he brought that up and he urged people to choose him, obviously, over the other candidates, donald trump had a surrogate here, john kasich had a surrogate here but even trump's aide is telling the associated press this morning that they believe cruz will basically sweep these 14 delegates that are left. cruz investing time and resources here. donald trump instead focusing, for example, in new york where you've seen him holding those rallies today where our colleagues jacob rascon and katy tur are at.
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ayman. >> ali'll be checking in with y at the end of the election to see your memorabilia. you'll need extra storage. hallie jackson, thank you for that. here to discuss this, republican strategist susan dell percio and dan klaiman. donald trump is continuing his attacks on the rnc. let me play you what he said on fox news and i'll get your reaction to it afterwards. take a listen. >> i don't want to waste millions of dollars going out to colorado knowing the system is rigged. i don't want to waste millions of dollars going out to wyoming many months before to wine and dine and essentially pay off all these people because a lot of it is a payoff, you understand that. they treat him, take him to dinner, get him hotels, the whole thing is a big payoff. >> so is s the strategy going to work where he rails against the rules of the system saying they're rigged against him? >> the argument that it's rigged is a very good argument for donald trump because it turns
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the attention away that he's all the talk last week was how he wasn't going to hit 1237. so now if he doesn't hit 1237, which is the amount needed to secure the nomination, it will look like he has a reason why he didn't. the system is rigged. however he has a fine line to draw because if he is, in fact, the party's nominee he's going to need help from the rnc and all the individual states to turn out the vote, to invest money. there's a lot of talk that when it goes into a general election donald trump will have to raise money. he won't be able to self-fund, he'll need the rnc. it's critical he maintains some type of relationship there. >> so good approach in the short term, maybe not good in the long term. >> i think so. i agree with susan. on the other hand, he is -- donald trump has proven himself to be about the most malleable politician that we have seen in a generation. i mean -- so he can one day be attacking the party and their rigged rules against him and the
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next day be hiring paul manafort and people who really came out of the republican establishment and other seasoned veterans who he's bringing in and pivot toward a more establishment kind of point of view so i think he will go back and forth. it depends on what suits him depending on the time and he's got other problem, other structural problems with this race but i think that one he'll maneuver. >> just to add, don't forget, ted cruz was there. ted cruz is winning states that he shows up to that donald trump doesn't so he is working and it looks like he's earning it so that's the difference. donald trump is complaining about it and ted cruz is earning it. >> let's talk about kasich. he's having to defend comments he made. yesterday these were comments made asked by a voter about sexual harassment on campus. take a listen to what he said. >> how did i get elected? nobody was -- i didn't have anybody for me. we have we just gotten a army of people who -- and many women who left their kitchens to go out and go door to door and put yard
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signs up for me. have you ever been on a diet? many times? well, that's not -- okay, you're the perfect example. so we set a goal and you reach it and what happens? how about a little spew moanny? a trip over the mario's? you ever go to mario's? how about a little spumoni. >> and if we are a neighbor that means that widow who is married for 50 years who no one calls anymore, you want to change the world? you take her to dinner on saturday night. she'll wear that dress she hadn't worn in six months. i trust you to do it. >> let me clarify, that was a montage of the comments he's made in the past where he's been criticized for the references he's made to women and that was in response to a comment he made yesterday about a voter when she asked him about sexual harassment on campus. so he's positioned himself sometimes as the only candidate who can go up against hillary clinton and that he can win the women's vote given the fact that others like donald trump have
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not done so well among women voters. so do you think this is going to help him? the fact that he's being on the defensive with some of the comments he's made about women? >> they are getting picked up but not significantly. if he was in a stronger position he'd probably get attacked more. that being said, i'm surprised by the kasich campaign here in new york. for example, i am a prime republican voter, that means i vote in every election. i'm in manhattan where kasich i know based on internal polling is doing well, i haven't even gotten a robocall. it seems like he's ignoring a certain population of the state which really doesn't make sense in new york. >> it's interesting when i first started covering kasich it was in new hampshire and he was way behind but he had a great ground game and he was getting to people and getting to all those voters so i'm surprised because new york is a state where he wasn't going to win but he could do better in this state. >> he could keep trump under 50 which would be significant. >> absolutely. in terms of the comments he's
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making, this has been his achilles heel for a long time, this idea he's not disciplined. and often your virtues are also your vices and in this particular case some of this is coming back to haunt him. >> susan del percio and dan klaiman, thank you. appreciate it. former president bill clinton on the campaign trail in albany highlighting the global migrant crisis. >> democrats say, well i don't care about that foreign policy stuff. you should this time. you should this time for a simple reason. first of all, on pure humanitarian concerns it should bother you we have the largest number of migrants since world war ii. >> the former president's words coming hours after pope francis spoke on the greek island of lesbos. the powerful gesture the pope made about the crisis when we return. stay with us.
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detention center on the greek island of lesbos which has faced the brunt of europe's migration crisis. there the pope led a minute of silence in memory of refugees who died fleeing their countries. more than 3,000 migrants are being detained at camp moria against their will in what they say are horrendous conditions. bill neely has been covering the pope's visit for us. >> this was a short but highly dramatic visit to the front line of the migrant crisis here on the island of lesbos. and it ended with the pope taking back in his plane to rome 12 syrian muslim migrants. three families, two from damascus and one from the city under isis control, they've been bombed out of their homes 12 migrants, six of them children. they are now tonight beginning a new life in italy. the pope taking them back on his plane unexpectedly.
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earlier extraordinary scenes as the pope went behind the razor wire and fences and high walls of a detention camp where three and a half thousand migrants are held against their will. they're not allowed to leave because they face deportation and he met hundreds of those migrants, some of whom kissed his hand, others knelt in front of him weeping, begging him for help. and for his blessing quite extraordinary scenes. it was for him a personal mission. he has made the issue of migrants a key cause of his peip peippip papacy. many migrants did not meet him. among them a man we met yesterday called syed parves who worked as an interpreter for the u.s. army in afghanistan and he had critical things to say about life in the moria detention camp. do you have hope that you can
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find freedom? >> maybe but it's like a -- i'm not sure 100% we will find the place or not. we're living right here like prisoners. >> you feel like prisoners? >> no chance to go out, at least we should -- food is not good for people and everything is nothing right here. and to talk at least to our family. there's no chance to -- at least for the high ranking people.
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>> will the pope's visit make any difference? >> maybe. maybe people they help a lot, maybe he comes they will change a lot for people. >> reporter: but many of the migrants, not only of those who did not meet him but those who did feel the pope's visit was hopeful, it's given them some hope in a fairly hopeless situation because most of those migrants are likely to be september back under the new deal between european governments and turkey. now, the pope directly addressed those european governments today calling on them to show courage and compassion in their dealing with refugees and he tweeted out that refugees have names and faces. he said i am here to help you and to show the world you are not forgotten. the vatican said this was not a political visit but a humanitarian one but simply by being here and certainly his gesture at the end, his act in
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taking back those 12 syrian refugees, that's a political act although on the way home he again explained that was not his prime intention. but simply by being here he's shone a light on a deeply political issue. it was a gesture, of course, a moral gesture he is trying to show moral leadership. so this was a short visit and a symbolic one but ayman it was a highly significant one. tonight those 12 syrian refugees beginning their new life in italy. back to you. >> that was nbc's bill neely reporting in lesbos, greece, thanks for that, bill. next, when candidates visit matzo factories in new york, well, you know how important the state's jewish vote is. a look at how jewish voters are for democrats and republicans when we come back. don't let dust and allergies get between you
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earlier, trump calling the rnc primary system "rigged and dirty" at an event in syracuse, new york. he warned the committee might have a "rough july" at the convention. meanwhile, hillary clinton will take the stage any minute at a campaign event in los angeles. bill and chelsea clinton keep up the campaigning in new york. the latest nbc 4 poll shows clinton leading bernie sanders in new york by 17 points. we're joined by the governor of new york andrew cuomo who endorsed hillary clinton. governor, good to have you with us, sir. >> good to be with you. >> let me play a bernie sanders campaign ad for you that was just released this morning. i'll have you listen to it and get your reaction right after, sir. >> when the deck is stacked a new yorker will find a way. -to-break up big banks, create millions of jobs and rebuild america. some say it can't be done again but another native son of new york is ready. bernie. rebuild the middle-class, make wall street banks pay their fair
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share, give every child a chance. new york, it's our time again to build a future to believe in. >> i'm bernie sanders and i approve this message. >> governor, in that commercial he's comparing himself or the sanders campaign is comparing senator sanders to fdr and the new deal. do you see comparison there is. is that message something that will resonate with new york voters, do you think? >> well, look, i find it enjoyable, frankly, that everybody wants to be a new yorker, right? that commercial says that bernie sanders is a native new yorker. hillary clinton represented new york and they now live in new york so it's a competition for who is -- has the best connection to new york which i think is great and i think it's also true that new york is leading the way by the way. historically if you look at the state of new york, many of the progressive movements started here in new york, the environmental rights movement,
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the women's rights movement, the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement. they all started here in new york. so the historic reference is correct under fdr, etc., new york really did lead the way, especially on progressive causes and we're doing it again. this is the first state that signed the $15 minimum wage law which now is the most progressive economic accomplishment for the country. they just passed paid family leave, 12 weeks, longest period of time in the nation. so i'm proud to say as a new yorker that, yes, new york is leading the way and to the extend bernie and hillary are competing for who has the closest ties to new york, great, i love it. >> so, sir, let me pick up on that point in terms of what new york is doing. earlier this month, as you mentioned, you signed a law that would gradually raise new york's minimum wage to $15 an hour. bernie sanders is fighting for a
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$15 national minimum wage where hillary clinton supports a $12 federal minimum wage, gradually increasing. but she says she would sign a bill for $15 if it came to her desk. i'm curious to get your thoughts. should at no time next president be fighting for a $15 minimum wage across the country? >> i think both hillary and bernie, if you factor out what they're saying is they want to get to $15. the question, ayman, is this -- how fast can you get to $15 without disrupting the economy in that area and actually having a negative im? if you go to $15 too fast and you slow the economy, you could actually hurt the people who you're trying to help with the $15 minimum wage. so what we did in this state is the new york city economy, down state new york, as we call it,
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it has a more robust economy, a stronger economy, we get to $15 in three years, long island, upstate new york with where the economy is slower we take a longer period of time to get to $15. and i think that's what hillary is saying. yes, you want to get to $15 but it has to be calibrated for different parts of the country in different regions and different states and even within some states you have to calibrate. the federal minimum wage is now $7 if you went nationwide from $7 to $15 overnight you would have places in this country where you set the economy back. i don't think there's any doubt about that ch. and you can cost people their jobs. so the bumper sticker says get to 15. all right. the paragraph that now talks about policy and programs says you have to do it in a way that
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is calibrated to different states in different parts of the country and that is the intelligent way to do it. i don't think anyone thinks you can go nationwide from $7 to $15 tomorrow without having negative consequences. >> let me ask you about one of the key attack lines that bernie sanders has been leveling against hillary clinton and that is the attack line on wall street and her speeches and the transcripts of those speeches. do you think that she should release those transcripts and, if so, what's stopping her from doing it? why doesn't she not release it to take out some of the momentum or sting of the criticism of the bernie sanders campaign if she has nothing to hide? >> i hear you. what hillary was saying at the debate -- which i think was p persuasi persuasive -- is she wants one set of rules for everyone. if she's going to release transcript, everyone should release transcripts.
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the whole release issue, she should release the transcripts. bernie sanders hasn't released his taxes which, frankly, is more troubling and more routine is the release of taxes. so they go back and forth. i don't know if voters at this point if it matters to anyone except those who are counting jousting points and wall street -- she was senator from new york, wall street is a very big economic engine for this state. it's a very big economic engine for this country. so better regulation of wall street? sure. demonize wall street? demonize the financial sector? i understand the rhetorical value in a campaign but the finance industry can do great things for this state and this country, we have to remember that, too. >> governor, my colleague kate snow spoke with voters near cooperstown this week, there's a big divide among the electorate. listen to what they've said.
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>> they're angry that there hadn't been change, they're angry they're not heard, they're angry things stay the way they are and they feel like maybe if you shake everything up that something new will happen. >> so they're talking about the need for change, the need for a shakeup. bernie sanders has been talking about change, but what change do you think hillary clinton can deliver with her ties to president obama? does she really represent change or more of the status quo to those upstate voters in new york? >> yeah, i think in new york where the campaign has evolved -- and it's a good question. where we are now in the quote/unquote debate or dialogue in new york is it's not about what the candidates want to do but how. if you listen to them in new york, ayman, they're both basically saying the same thing, better financial regulation on wall street, quote/unquote breaking up the big banks. you have to attack income
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inequality. you have to attack college affordability, you have to raise the minimum wage. they're both basically saying we have the same goals. the question becomes the how and i think bernie sanders effectively in a campaign gets it down to the bumper sticker size. he gets it down to 12 seconds minimum wage $15 for everyone, period. hillary is a little more practical in her approach and judicious and ways the weighs the practical consequences. the truth is the next president isn't given a magic and with where he or she waves the and with and presto change, the country changes. you have to go to congress, you have to deal with problems. you have to compromise.
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that cal claus is built into hillary's response more than burny's response. the question is who understands the governmental process so they can navigate change if you won't make a change, we don't need you. government is active. government is about making change in minneapolis and getting results. . you to hear speeches. i don't want to read press releases. i want change on the ground and i don't want to hear how tough washington is. the person to deliver that, i think, is hillary clinton who is saying in the the most concise way in a campaign? maybe bernie. but i think hillary has the talent and ability to make it a reality and that's what's important to me.
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>> what will happen tuesday? how do you see it playing out? >> i think hillary wins, i think her advantage here is new yorkers know her. i can see why bernie sanders is now running the ad "i'm a new yorker." she was a new york senator for many years. they watched her. she delivered. new yorkers are a little cynical, they are skeptical and they want to know that you're going to produce and she has produced for the state. and she's produced all other the state and new yorkers know that so i think they're going to reward her on election day on tuesday. she delivered for new york, i think new york is going to deliver for her. >> all right, governor, we know you have a very busy schedule, we thank you very much for taking time out of your saturday to join us, new york governor andrew cuomo, thank you for joining us. >> pleasure is mine. >> well, if there is anywhere
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bernie sanders has a chance of beating hillary clinton, it's upstate new york where the democratic race is tied up. it's also where back in 1999 clinton started courting new york voters, eventually winning the state senate seat. she may have won the election but she lost every county upstate. johnny decoppola is in in new york, i hear there are interesting things on the menu there. >> ayman, i'm in skin i can't tell lis and food is politics and when hillary launched her campaign in 1999, it didn't go too well. doug's fish fry refused to serve her and johnny angels had an interesting item on the
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so how is this sandwich selling is the question? >> 3-1. >> over the trump burger which is the other item on the menu today. you have the -- one what are these onion rings on the top? looks like trump's hair. >> onion straws. >> just a coincidence? and we have a special addition here, the undecided family of voters here, we have alyssa, cuyler, brook, gary and noreen. these kids will take a bite of the two meals and help their grandparents decide which candidate to go with. ready for this? start with the old stand by, the hillary special, the fried bologna. on the count of three, one, two, three, go for it. very patient, i don't know how it's going down. what do you think? >> pretty good. >> how about you, alyssa?
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uh-oh. brooke? so-so. all right, the trump burger here which is described on the menu as two gigantic burgers with lots of cheese over the top and made in america. go for it, guys, when you're ready. tyler got bacon on his. chew slowly but when you're ready based exclusively on taste on these two dishes, who would you tell your grandparents to vote for? blown bologna hillary, big burger trump? which one? we got a trump from cuyler? what about you alyssa? >> trump. >> trump. what do you think about that, gland? >> i'll take it into consideration. >> take it into consideration. very good. ayman, there you have it, one indication of how the voters are doing. there are rumors the bakery across the street could have a pie in the sky named after bernie sanders but so far those are unconfirmed. back to you. >> grandmother with a diplomatic
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answer. thank you for that. candidates from both parties are vying hard for the jewish vote. it's for good reason. new york has the largest and most diverse jewish community outside of israel. they make up 19% of the primary voting block. msnbc's caliperry is speaking to voters. what are they telling you there? >> we've been joined by jackie who's obviously a hillary clinton supporter. give me the 30-second hillary pitch. >> hillary is most effective legislator we have ever had in new york state. she is really an advocate for everything that i believe in. she is there not only for civil rights, for women's rights, basically all human rights and i think she is going to be the most effective person we could ever have as a presidential candidate. >> was there anything about your faith, about your jewish faith that led you to be a hillary supporter? >> i am not a religious person
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but i am very culturally jewish. i think she is -- has always been altruistic. from the time she graduated law school she has worked children's defense fund, she has done things that have been for the people in order to get more services, more money, to support everything that i think is important and that's a jewish value. >> i really appreciate your time, thank you very much. ayman, that you have it. we're hearing from some people where their faith makes a difference. other people it's secondary. >> i'm going to text you an order to pick up for me. appreciate that insight. >> will do. >> thank you, we'll be right back after the break. you totaled your brand new car.
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in april of 2014276 school girls were abducted from their dormitory beds in nigeria by the terrorist group boko haram. more than 50 of the girls managed to escape but 219 0of them are still missing. this week new video emerged that allegedly showed the girls alive but still in captivitcaptivity. family members in nigeria watching and recognizing their loved ones hoping one day they will return home. this week, a bipartisan group of lawmakers held a forum on capitol hill to call for more action to find the missing girls. joining me now is florida congresswoman frederica wilson who has led the bring back our girls campaign here in the u.s. congresswoman, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> what do we know about the life these girls have been forced to live over the past two years? >> i think it's hard. it's hard for them and i think that -- but i do think they've been treated better than the other captives because they are seen as bargaining chips for
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boko haram. even though boko haram is the deadliest organization in the world, a terrorist group that's been waited number one. some of them i think have passed away. i think they're heartbroken. some of them are just so distraught and i've been very close, grown very close with the ones who escaped and grown very close with the parents and have traveled to nigeria twice to meet with them and met with both presidents and we're just fighting to keep this in the news, keep it on the hearts and minds of people so it won't fade away because we've got to bring those girls back. >> and congresswoman, you talked about boko haram being the deadliest terrorist organization and that's certainly what the data suggests as well but do you think that there's a double standard with the way the international community is going after terrorist groups like isis and the coalition that exists and the media attention that group gets but neglects it when it comes to the girls if nigeria
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and the terrorist attacks taking place in west africa? >> i definitely do. and it's wrong. and i'm fighting to make it equal because african lives matter, too, and these girls were in school just trying to get an education. boko haram believes that western education is forbidden so we've got to make sure that we grieve and mourn for the african lives just like we grieve and mourn for the other victims of terrorism. >> and what do you want to see the ocean specifically do do to try to bring back our girls? >> i want them to provide more intelligence capabilities to the nigerians. i want them to look at the confiscated funds from corruption in nigeria and use that money to help all of the displaced people, millions of people have been displaced from their homes and there's no
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schooling going on. we have to build schools. genocide is taking place and we're losing a whole generation of girls, boys who won't be educated. this is horrific we have to intervene and mike sure as american s we're doing our part. . congresswoman, let me ask you this on the international perspective which is there was the bring back our girls demonstration this is week in nigeria and a number of other african and european countries. how robust do you think the international role in this search-and-rescue is. is it adequate or does more need to be done? >> more needs to be done. we mark anniversaries and then it fades away but what i have been doing is doing something
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every single day. i go to the floor, i make sure that i make speeches about it, tweet, tweet, tweet and on wednesday the whole congress wears red to bring back our girls. these are young girls. these are children. these are people, too. these are refugees. these are people who are victims of terrorism and we have to put it on an equal playing field. >> it's a hard breaking situation. congresswoman frederica wilson, thank you for your efforts and thank you for joining us today. that's all for me this afternoon. thank you for joining us. in ex-is "road warriors." steve cokornacki discovers the 2016 race with kristen welker, katy you are the hallie jackson and kasie hunt. don't miss it.
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