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good afternoon everyone. live from brooklyn. a beautiful sunday afternoon here. we are two days away from the critical new york primary. with a large chunk of delegates, the most since texas and florida are up for grabs. more than 2 1/2 million people call this borough of new york home. if it was its own city it would be fourth largest in the united states. bernie sanders is hoping to win over some of their support ahead of tuesday's contest by
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positioning himself as brooklyn's native son. he grew up in flatbush not far from where we are. the vermont senator is set to hold a concert and rally over an hour from now. hillary clinton is laying claim to brooklyn. her campaign headquarters is located in brooklyn heights. she spent her sunday at a block party where she showed off her dance moves. with less than 48 hours until voters head to the polls clinton leads sanders by 17 points in the empire state. on the republican side it's a mad dash to the finish. ted cruz trailing in third here in new york heads towards tuesday's contest with new momentum. the texas senator sweeping the wyoming state republican convention this weekend adding 14 pledge delegates to his growing roster. donald trump heavily favored to win here in new york spent his morning in staten island where he ramped up attacks on the rnc.
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>> you have to change. it has to be changed. it's not going to happen probably this time although they are watching closer. they will not be making rules changes because the public is really angry. and the republicans are really angry. you are going to have a very, very upset and angry group of people at the convention. i hope that doesn't happen because if i win people are going to be very happy. >> we are listening to donald trump talking about the delegates. we will take a listen to that. >> 100%. are you ready? are you ready? are you ready? are you ready? >> you better believe it.
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>> want to bring in jacob rascon where trump is speaking. trump has been railing against the rnc. seems he is sharpening his attacks against the rnc and its leadership. >> he is and we are seeing a different kind of candidate. he has localized statistics about unemployment. here in new york he is ahead by the widest margins yet of the primary season and yet campaigning as if the race is neck and neck. a dozen stops from staten island to syracuse because he doesn't want to just win. he wants to wipe out ted cruz's chances of getting to the nomination before cleveland. in fact, if he does as well as he is polling in new york in the next several states ted cruz will be mathematically eliminated like john kasich has been and that is an argument that donald trump really wants to make. now, as well, over the week
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seeing something new with him. trying death by political nickname on other candidates. he is trying to do the same thing with hillary clinton. take a listen. >> it's crooked hillary as crooked as they come. we are going to beat her so badly. >> reporter: so he had a big loss in wyoming. but to donald trump he is almost wearing it as a badge of honor and his voters are furious. they are buying his argument. and in a place like wyoming and colorado where there is no voter primary voters who supported trump are disenfranchised they bloev in trump has said if there was a primary if all people were able to go out and vote that trump would have won wyoming and colorado. despite that as we have said
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before analysis shows that the delegate system so far has favored trump. he has won 37% of the popular vote with 45% of the delegates so far. >> live for us appreciate that update. senator ted cruz won the 14 wyoming at large delegates up for grabs at that republican convention yesterday claiming 23 of 26 pledge delegates. will they make a dent in donald trump's lead come tuesday in new york? hallie jackson is in wyoming with the latest for us with the cruz campaign. >> reporter: hey, there. a cruz campaign aid points to a number of delegate selection events. it is 95 delegates at 34 different events at 10 states happening over yesterday, today, friday and the cruz team says they have volunteers or staff members at all of them. it is an area where they believe
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they can outmaneuver donald trump. ted cruz will be back out tomorrow in new york where donald trump looks really strong and where ted cruz has shown up in the upstate, in the western part of new york. where trump looks likely to do very well. if he does it means trump needs 55% of the remaining delegates to rock up the nomination. ted cruz's math is harder why the campaign is looking to keep it close now and not let donald trump run away with the delegate lead to close the deal on potentially a second ballot. cruz campaign is focussing on delegates and trying to work on modeling who they'll need to go after, how they can try to convince some gdelegates to com to ted cruz's side. yesterday you saw cruz pick up 14 at large delegates. 23 delegates in wyoming total for cruz headed into cleveland. new york you might like the
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weather a little better. still kind of snowy out here even though it is mid april. back to you. >> hallie jackson for us in wyoming. appreciate that. for more on the republican race i want to bring in ed cox, chair of the new york republican party and caitlyn burns, political reporter for real clear politics. let me begin with you. donald trump's negativity rating is remarkable according to our new nbc poll, 65% of voters give him a negative rating while just about a quarter give him a positive rating. his negative rating is about 41%. what kind of problem does that pose for the front runner as he makes his way through the primaries and maybe a general election that he has such a negative rating among americans? >> it fuels his rivals ted cruz and john kasich and this movement. don't want him to be the nominee in a general election because his numbers can cost the white
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house house and senate seats. we have seen everything that donald trump has done that is perceived negatively doesn't effect him among supporters. we are entering a phase where he does need to expand his support a little more. the field has narrowed. there are more voters up for grabs and heading into competitive contests. the ones who are favorable to him. he can use that to his advantage a little bit. something he knows why we have seen his wife on the trail more, his daughter and other family members. >> similar with ted cruz, his negativity rating is not that much better than donald trump. the person who constantly boasts he would farewell against hillary or bernie sanders is john kasich. he does worse than the other two in the polling. what does that say in terms of the irony of it and the nominating process? >> we have a long way to go
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before november. the only person who has a worse unfavorable rating than donald trump is hillary clinton. so if she is the nominee of the democratic party i think one offsets the other. >> we have been hearing consistent attacks from donald trump against the rnc saying this is a rigged system. i want to play you a sound byte. this is reince priebus defending that. >> there is really nothing that is rigged or being changed or alterred. these are the same rules that were in place basically for over a century. at the very least there is no way around the fact that all of these states submitted their delegate allocati delegate allocation plans. not a single thing has changed about it. >> who do you think is winning the war of words? trump accusing rnc of being rigged. chairman defending it say tg has been in place for close to 100
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years. >> this is a fascinating part of the campaign because donald trump has been able to really take short comings of his campaign. he wasn't prepared for some convention sites. his campaign was caught asleep behind the wheel when it comes to getting delegates. because the focus has been on the process, donald trump has been able to turn a spot light on that and he is bringing a lot of new voters in who aren't familiar with the system and a lot of republican voters who weren't aware of this kiepd of thing. there has been a consensus nominee in the past several elections. he is able to say this is the nasty political system i'm running against. that will work with supporters. >> what do you make of that? >> i think donald trump should be thankful for what happened in colorado and wyoming. he has been operating campaign successfully. delivering in a way that makes it stick.
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you need organization. and i think bringing on people like paul manafort and others. >> folks say they don't want to see a nominee from the republican party who did not participate or run in the primaries, this so-called white knight scenario of somebody saving the party. do you agree with that? >> just from a pragmatic point of view if you haven't gone through fire of primaries you aren't ready. you haven't built support you need in order to be effective going forward. >> what do you think of that? >> i think donald trump has certainly been able to really kiepd of learn from these mistakes but i talked to a lot of republicans who are supportive of someone like mitt romney or paul ryan who say bringing someone else would be the exact opposite of what voters have been saying.
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they don't like the way the system is being run. they want someone who has participated in the process. i think it would create a chaotic component at the convention. i think republicans are very aware of that. i can't anticipate that happening. we never know. >> the scenario that donald trump may run as an independent if he is not guaranteed the nomination, does the republican party need donald trump more than he needs the republican party? >> he won't do that. he can't do it. it is too late to put together an independent campaign. he represents very important part of the republican coalition. republicans, reagan democrats, these are important parts of what we need in order to win in november and that we need to keep donald trump as part of the fold if he were not to get the nomination. >> thank you both for joining us. next we turn to the democratic side. hillary clinton's motorcade showered with money from protesters in california yesterday as she headed to a
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welcome back to brooklyn. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are back on the campaign trail here in new york after a brief break for both candidates. senator sanders went to the vatican and secretary clinton did fundraising in california with george clooney. sanders will hold a get out the vote rally. clinton will be in staten island for a campaign rally. i'm joined by kasie hunt. despite trailing by double digits thousands of people turning out we had a huge turnout on wednesday for the sanders campaign down at
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washington square park. is he discouraged by the fact that they are trailing by double digits in the polls but still getting thousands of people at the protests in. >> it's interesting. they in past elections, past primaries they have been able to close the gap when they have shown up and held particularly these big mega events. and he has moved the numbers. that hasn't happened here in new york. he has been here for the last ten days. he had tough news cycles and is used to operating in the tabloid driven environment. he was a little behind the ball and didn't start doing big rallies until the one on wednesday. they have the one this afternoon and then another one coming up on monday. those visuals didn't show up until late in this process. that said, they still are hoping to drive more people to the polls. here is what bernie sanders had to say about that earlier today. >> i hope very much that on
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tuesday there will be a very large turnout, a lot of working people, young people will understand that in america all of us, not just the people at top have the right to shape the future of this country. >> the challenge, of course, there is that new york has a closed primary system so a lot of these young people if they were registered as independents or republicans and wanted to switch sides they had to do that in the fall. new voters had to register by late march which was right around the time that the sanders team came in and started organizing. the real question is whether the crowds are going to translate into votes. at this point it is not clear he will be able to do that. at that point the sanders will have to figure out how to make an argument that they can go forward and close that pledge delegate lead. >> what becomes the strategy post tuesday? >> sanders himself has said that
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sanders made the decision that he is going to stay in this race until the district of columbia votes on june 14. he has already made that decision and gets frustrated if you suggest he should drop out or ask a question that includes that premise. they are talking about states where they might be able to do well the following tuesday, big states in the mid atlantic region. state college for a rally, penn state university on tuesday night. you can expect him there and look to rhode island. i think you can expect the clinton campaign to argue aggressively that if you can't pull off something in new york it is hard in other states and no way to surpass her in the pledge delegate lead. now to the clinton where hillary clinton was dancing to latin music in the northern manhattan neighborhood of washington heights a short time ago. ♪
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secretary clinton dancing with a new new york state senator during unscheduled stop at a block party. clinton will be to a get out the vote rally. >> reporter: with just two days until voters head to the polls here in new york secretary clinton on defense today over her stance on the minimum wage. she has said she supports increasing the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour. she said she supports statewide efforts to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and says she would back that but thinks that $12 is more realistic federally. senator sanders has been slamming her for this issue accusing her of flip-flopping. take a listen to how she defended herself. >> i think their campaign is trying to make something where there is nothing. the people who are behind the
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fight for 15 support me, not him. the people who i have worked with to try to raise the visibility about this important issue stand with me. and i want to do what has not been accomplished. and that is to overcome republican opposition including by the republican candidates for president to finally give hard working people the majority of whom are women, the kind of raise they deserve. >> reporter: of course, the minimum wage is a key issue for democratic voters. polls here in new york show secretary clinton has a strong double digit lead, 17 points in one poll. her campaign officials tell me they think the race will get tighter. their goal is to try to minimize that law and break up as many delegates as possible. both candidates campaigning vigorously in the final hours. senator sanders has an event in prospect park.
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secretary clinton is sending out former president bill clinton and chelsea clinton all out heading to the primary on tuesday. >> following the hillary clinton campaign for us. let's bring in executive director of the new york state democratic party and he was former top aid to hillary clinton when she was a new york senator. and we are joined by caitlyn burns. a short while ago we heard from george clooney who was on meet the press talking about the fundraising and the amount of money that has gotten into these campaigns. let me play that sound byte and i will get your reaction to it. >> yes, i think it is an obscene amount of money. we had protesters last night when we pulled up in san francisco and they are right to protest. they are absolutely right. it is an obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign when they
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talk about it is absolutely right. it is ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. i agree, completely. >> bernie sanders been relentless in criticizing hillary clinton on this particular issue. george clooney making reference to bernie sanders' campaign. is george clooney right from the perspective of money being obscene amount. >> obscene is a strong word but it is a tremendous amount of money. tv costs money, mail costs money, hiring staff costs money. unless we are willing to do what other countries have done and let tv time be free which i don't think will happen, campaigns would continue to cost money. we have gotten much better in terms of campaign fince laws to make donors more accountable and make insurgents more competitive especially with new york and new york city. we have done a lot better.
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there is more that can be done. >> this morning we heard from both candidates about the particular issue especially what we are hearing from george clooney. listen to what bernie sanders and hillary clinton have to say. >> he is honest to say there is something wrong when people, in this case wealthy individuals, other instances it is powerful special interests who are able to contribute large sums. you not going to have a government that represents all of us so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton. >> i am raising money to elect other democrats. i am a democrat. i want to see us take back the senate. i want to see us have a very strong showing in the house. i want to take back governorships and state legislators all up and down the ticket. so i want to win in new york, of course. i want to secure the nomination but not just for me. >> so which argument do you think resonates with voters more
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from the perspective of wall street being a negative label that bernie sanders is trying to associate with hillary clinton and some of the arguments coming out from the clinton campaign that wall street not bad but at the same time the money being raised is also helping other democrats win down stream election snz. >> i think it depends on who you talk to. bernie sanders has gotten a lot of mileage out of his attacks on hillary clinton for talking to wall street firms, accepting money from them in paid speeches, in terms of fundraising. sanders placed an emphasis on small dollar donors throughout the campaign giving people a reason to say i want to participate in this process. i hear that a lot from voters at various different events and on the republican side feeling like they can't participate in the process. we are in a presidential election year. the senate could be up for grabs depending on who the republican nominee is, the house, many house seats could be in play. hillary clinton is making the
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point that we need to raise money for democrats. she is focussing on that since sanders has not been a democrat this whole time. >> i would add to that. if you listen to senator sanders chooses democratic politics. what i love to talk to even my students about is the importance of these races. state elections, local elections. these are the representatives that have day to day impact on voters. what hillary clinton is talking about is saying let's invest in those elections and support the entire ticket. and my concern is that when we talk about abandoning the institutions of party politics broadly that gives people the sense that the presidential election is the only game in town. there are other elections where you have good democrats. if i could speak to those, some republicans i may not agree with them. good democrats running and i think hillary's point is let's support the entire ticket. >> let's talk about the delegate
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count as well as some of the number of votes that hillary clinton has. she has a strong delegate lead almost 660. she has gotten 2.4 million votes more than bernie sanders. but she still has a negative view, if you will, at least according to our nbc wall street journal poll showing a negative view compared to 36% of bernie sanders. could that be a problem for her in a general election down the road? >> i think part of the negative is a result of a lot of those early questions about her e-mails. she acknowledged that saying the drip, drip, drip is going to be hurtful. i think you will see numbers go up in a general when you compare her to any republican certainly donald trump if he becomes the republican nominee. i think her numbers would go up relative to his and i think she will become substantially more
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electable. >> what do you make in terms of her favorability and view of her? we were discussing the republicans both of them have to some extent very negative ratings. >> this is part of why hillary clinton wants to wrap up this nominating process and focus on the republicans. there is a lot of chaos on their side. they don't have the nominee. she is certainly leading in the delegate count and in the superdelegate count. i think it will be hard for sanders to convert superdelegate support by the amount he will need to. but i do think that she will -- has acknowledged that she needs to work on certain constituencies within the democratic party, young people especially. in washington square park we saw 27,000 member crowd for sanders. >> can he convert those crowds into votes? >> the problem that sanders has
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had is that he has done really well with independent voters. independents are a core part of his skiconstituency. new york is a closed primary. the campaign has had to focus on before this converting those independents, make them register as democrats. that deadline was a long time agoy. that will be a problem for him. >> about this issue of bernie sanders trying to convert voters into some of these supporters into voters. uphill battle for him in a state like new york in. >> it is an uphill battle because of the past deadlines. my biggest concern is not him being able to convert them to democrats to vote for him. it is what he does if he loses this nomination his ability to get them to vote in nov, that is my biggest concern. >> thank you both for joining us. appreciate that. we'll be speaking later on in this hour.
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. good afternoon. live from brooklyn. a beautiful sunday afternoon. bernie sanders is holding what is expected to be a massive rally in neighboring prospect park within the hour. thousands of supporters already claiming their spot on this sunny spring afternoon. hillary clinton is also campaigning in new york's outer boroughs heading to staten island thrks city's most conservative borough. donald trump trying to score a big win in tuesday's republican contest. here he is moments ago taking aim at hillary clinton. >> and then, of course, we have rooked hillary. she has been crooked from the beginning and to think that she has a shot at being our president, crooked hillary
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clinton. we can't let it happen. >> voters heading to the polls here in new york on tuesday may be confused if they show up looking to register or change parties or try to vote if they're independents. ivanka trump and eric will not be able to vote for their father tuesday. both are independents and missed the deadlines to switch parties. a brief overview of the new york voting rules for us. >> the history of elections here in new york city is not particularly a model of one person, one vote. a model of smoke filled rooms might be more like it. boss tweed kickbacks and corruption ruled here until la guardia was elected mayor in 1934. while times have changed some say democracy is far behind in the nation's largest city. until recently new york was voting on lever machines.
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you can't vote early without an excuse. and as many folks are finding out this weekend registration deadlines closed in march and switching parties had to be done last year. so while there are a large number of delegates to be taken home from tuesday it is unclear how many people will show up at the polls or how smooth experience at the polling place will be. >> our delegate hunter following that for us. back with us now is executive director of the new york state democratic party and ed cox, chair of the new york republican party. so this question is to both of you. it's interesting as new yorkers to see that new york for the first time in recent years has become relevant again and actually has a very important role to play in the primaries in both parties. one of the points brought up is if they change the system and
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allow unaffiliated or independent voters to participate it could keep that relevance and importance for new york for many years to come. >> what made it relevant was that we fixed our date only primary. this is done with chairman patterson and i got together saying maybe we can really have the exclusive primary and have an exciting time for the voters of both parties. it's -- i think it is more the structure of it than anything else. >> but to the point about some of the rules, there have been proposals in the past to do things like early voting which a lot of states have and seen. i think it is oregon has now automatic voting. and i think nevada in the last primary cycle experimented with online voting. i think you will see some proposals come up again over time. i don't know how popular they
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will be. i think ed's right in the sense that we have great candidates on a democratic side. >> on the republican side, too. >> and that is pushing a tremendous amount of enthusiasm. we saw that in '08, as well. >> new hampshire and iowa and south carolina have all the fun and after that it was sort of already determined because we very active candidates. we have our own exclusive date. that is what made this. >> it's timing the fact that they are not that either race is decided so late into the primary season. is there an issue to be made or an argument to be made about allowing unaffiliated or independent voters to decide which party to choose from that can make primaries to be important -- >> primaries lead to party convention. it makes sense to have a primary where it is closed in the sense
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only republicans can vote. when they register and that kind of thing that is another issue. >> i tend to agree. i think there is a different question to be asked, as well. how can we best educate the public about these deadlines? that is something we need to spend time doing and maybe both parties could have a role in that. these deadlines have been in place for quite some time. so i think because in every presidential year there is a lot more attention on the campaigns and elections that we probably need to do a better job. >> we have a number of parties in new york state because of the way we combine parties votes for a candidate. for example, a lot of people, i want to vote for ted cruz but they can't do it because of the conservative party. >> would opening the unaffiliated voters help donald trump or ted cruz? >> i won't go there. >> what do you think would be
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the case for the democratic side? would opening it up favor a bernie sanders campaign or hillary clinton campaign? >> i'm not entirely sure. there is an argument that it may help bernie sanders but i don't think it makes it diminishes hillary clinton's support in the state. but these are the rules that we have been living by for quite some time and folks have been successful playing by them. maybe we can do a better job educating and we look forward to that. >> executive director of the new york state democratic party. thank you both very much for your time. enjoy the park. >> i didn't bring my skateboard. left it at home. key issue for many upstate new york voters is fracking, a controversial method of extracting natural gas. two years after banned in new york voters appeared to dbe divided. let's bring speaking about the
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impact on the state's economy. what are they telling you? >> reporter: let me explain this issue. the ground under my feet is filled with natural gas. on the new york side of the line it is banned and no one can get to the gas. the mountain behind me is pennsylvania. over there they can fracand the county is booming. that has been a force of frustration. we caught up with caroline price here. she polled constituents and found two-thirds are in favor of fracking and are getting fed up. >> it's very hard for people who live on the other side in new york state to see this going on. they can see it from where they live. and to see that the economy is thriving and they have much lower taxes, much lower cost of living and they would like the same. >> reporter: i want to bring in betsy who is a resident here.
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she will help us understand this frustration and how it might be channelled into a political vote on tuesday. you were telling me earlier that you would be in a position if fracking were legal to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of this land. >> very possible. >> which candidate do you think could help you get that money to bring fracking back to new york? >> i think ted cruz could help me out because he is for fracking. he is for our energy resources and using to our abilities and help this nation. and we don't want to revert back to fossil fuels. we want to do everything as clean and safe as we can. >> you see fracking as a bridge. vote is one way to try to bring it back. this sign yes we can secede. you want to potentially join pennsylvania? >> pennsylvania allows fracking. they have lower taxes. they offer just as much as new york if not better. i can say windsor pennsylvania just as easy.
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>> reporter: thank you very much. we also spoke to steve clark who is a resident and opposed to fracking. he will be voting for bernie sanders and not only vote frg him but hoping neighbors come out to keep the ban in place. back to you. >> reporter: thanks for that update. the impact new york's muslim voters will play in tuesday's primary. stay with us. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. twell what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery
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voters this tuesday. joining me is a bernie sanders supporter. when you look at comments come out on the republican side, ted cruz calling for surveillance of muslim neighborhoods, donald trump calling for ban of muslims into the united states, let's listen to issues they've discussed and i will get your reaction to it afterwards. take a listen to this sound bite from ted cruz back in march. >> it is standard law enforcement. if you have a neighborhood that is plagued by gang activity, it is standard and good law enforcement to direct more resources, to work with the community that is facing gang activity, to stop the gang members. it is standard, good policing to direct your resources to where the threat is coming from. we should do the exact same thing with radical islamic terrorism. >> so calling for the surveillance of muslim neighborhoods, something that's been widely discredited by a lot of folks in law enforcement, but do you think that kind of rhetoric will mobilize muslim voters to come out for a democratic candidate in a city like new york? >> i think it already has.
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i think a lot of people have been alarmed and concerned and angry, and so they are getting i think for the first time really getting involved in the process, but the thing that makes it more interesting is it's not just like i'm afraid of the republican candidate so i'm going to vote for the democratic candidate. there's a feeling you have a choice within the democratic party and that's what's driving more voter registration. you're not just being forced to the left, but once you arrive on the left you have two candidates with two different forcdifferen trying to get your vote. >> are they at all a sizable enough majority they should be taken seriously by either one of these candidates? are they significant enough? is their voter turnout important? i don't want to say that every vote doesn't matter, of course it does, but as a voting bloc is it something that candidates should be paying attention to? >> the muslim community in the u.s. is really small, really diverse but two things work in our favor. we have large numbers in key
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areas, ohio, michigan, virginia, florida. new york city is 800,000 muslims. 10% of new york city is muslim. if you look at the public school system, that's 12%. whatever candidate can reach that demographics will have a relationship that pays off down the road. the second thing is american muslims, you know, they have a lot of resources. so we're a small community but we do have resources and we have an ability to get involved in the system. if you have a candidate who is going out of his way or her way to pull them in, that will also pay off for them too. >> you were talking about those that are even leaning towards the democratic side. they have a choice between the two candidates. we talk about 70% of muslims at least voters nationwide lean towards the democratic side. i want to play you a sound bite. it's from a muslim activist and a bernie supporter like you. here is what she had to say. >> i came to this campaign as a brooklynite, as an american, as a new yorker, but i came as a muslim, and people also make this assumption that somehow as
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a muslim i can't support bernie because he's a jew, but people don't understand the similarities and the very core tenets of judaism and christianity and islam. >> what do you make of her comments or her statement about muslims voting and supporting a jewish candidate? might that surprise some? should it? should it not? >> it shouldn't surprise people but it will. unfortunately, a lot of people tend to look at american-muslims or muslims generally as some kind of completely demographic but our concerns are the same as any other demographic. we tend to be younger, tend to be people of color so we skew to the left. but at the same time a lot of discrimination and the rhetoric directed towards muslims is directed towards jews, african-americans, mexicans, latinos. it's not like trump or the republican party is just focusing on us. they're focusing on a lot of minorities. sometimes we get it more explicitly but when you see someone like bernie sanders who goes out of his way to acknowledge the humanity of muslims, of arabs, that means a lot because on the other side
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you have a person basically treating you as if quur a second-class citizen, if even a citizen. >> what are some of the issue that is matter to the muslim demographic. certainly there's also a foreign component to this in the sense that muslims pay close attention to what's happening abroad, issues of foreign policy, terrorism. >> i think those two are linked. i think for a lot of us we have more awareness of what's happening in the middle east or south asia and we see how the war on terror has gone completely off the rails. when i look at hillary clinton, she's obviously a very qualified politician. she put her vote in support of an iraq war that cost us $2 trillion and has given us nothing. we're less safe now. now you have a candidate who saying why are we spending all this money abroad and not on ourselves, on student loans, on health insurance, on a fair wage and all these concerns? yeah, part of it is foreign policy but also it's an awareness the foreign policy is based on lies and deception and we want to bring it back to us as americans. >> good to talk to you.
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thank you very much for your time. new york yankee fans are known for their diehard loyalty to their team but even they can turn on each other when it comes to the issue of politics. cal perry is getting a plush assignment outside of yankee stadium though i am told he will not make it into the game. what are you hearing from fans two days before they head to the polls out there? >> reporter: so, yeah. it turns out all you have to do is be registered either as a republican or a democrat and as long as you're registered, even yankee fans get to vote. i'm just causing trouble in the bronx. honestly, it's a great spot to come out and talk to people. everyone here knows about the elections. people here obviously up to speed on the election. take a listen. >> hillary all the way. >> reporter: why hillary? >> i just think we need a first lady, fresh ideas and to have a woman in office is going to be a good idea. >> trump. i think we need change in the
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white house. too much corruption going on the last eight years. i'm unhappy with what is going on. >> bernie sanders. he's real. he's real. he's more about the people. >> bernie sanders wins the election or the yankees win the world series? and trump is president. >> no. that's a hard one. no, the yankees, i'm sorry. >> reporter: one thing that we have heard here, all joking aside, people are a little disappointed to have to be registered. we talked to a lot of independent voters who hope the next election cycle the new york primary will be open to independents. >> msnbc's cal perry live in the bon bronx. i won't tell people out there you're a mets fan. coming to you from brooklyn. up next, chris matthews exclusive town hall with ohio governor john kasich. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. if you're going to make a statement...
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