the party that elected barack obama is probably okay with it. >> thank you for joining us. appreciate that. we'll be back monday with more mtp daily. "with all due respect" starts now. "all due respect" to the rnc, summer is coming. >> happy earth day. on the show, gop king of the hill. we remember the legacy of prince. first, republican parties spring meeting in hollywood, florida that wrapped up today with the talk by reince preibus. it was a private conversation

given by paul manafort that was still going through the meeting and the party more broadly today. a full read out was first reported by our bloomberg colleagues. in it, he laid out case for why the republicans shouldn't be worried about donald trump's very, very, very low favorability ratings. >> clinton's negatives are serious. people don't trust it. they don't like her. they think she's a liar. it's his personality this people have trouble with. fixing personality negatives is a lot easy than character

negatives. you can't change character. you can change the way someone present themselves. he's talking business and politics, it's a different persona. when he's talking about the kinds of things he's talking about, he's projecting an image for that purpose. >> mark, paul has put forward a provocative premise, an argument. is there any reason to think what he's saying is true? >> the heart of what he said is it's easier to convince people you have a different personality than it is you've got a different character. i'm not sure fp i'm thinking about if this is bull spin or something related to it. one is the private trump is somebody who i think people would feel more comfortable with as president than the way he performs in public. when he say i'm going to act

presidential, that's true. the second thing that's true is trump has capacity to surprise. he could stop behaving differently and people will be like that's different. i don't think hillary clinton has that capacity. >> i think it's almost total bull pucky straight through and through. the distinction between character and personality is tenuous. we have seen people change both of them. the positions give him big problems with large selections of the electorate with women and hispanics. those are issues. the clinton campaign low pressure not let him just shift

positions going forward. >> i agree with you. it is the case as much as people know him. they don't know him as a political actor the way they know her. he's got the capacity to change impressions more than he does. this distinction is fuzzy. >> i know the bell went off. he's also trying to sell republicans on the notion that donald trump was like a phony and fake. he's going to be a different guy. he might be able to make that sale because it might be true. >> there's more. in the same private meeting that manafort did, he made the case for a new and improved trump 2.0 that included raising money for the whole party if he's the nominee by tapping his gold encrusted fund-raising rolodex to help raise huge amounts. how big a bargaining chip did

manafort put on the table here in. >> let's start with the prior thing. the question of money is a huge question for the republican party. the couffers are depleted. they're at a huge advantage. if the trump campaign can claim to help the problem, it's a huge bargaining chip. i'm not sure what manafort said gets them close to being credib credible. >> why did they like romney? >> benjamins. >> if trump can convince people he would be a better fund-raiser, than cruz and kasich and arguments there to be made, it would be fantastic. if he does it, if he becomes the nominee, it's a huge open question. he can make the argument but can trump raise a billion and a half? i don't know. >> there's nothing, we agree on

the premise. it matters a lot. if he can be that fund-raiser it will help him enormously. nothing manafort said made it seem like a gold plated guarantee. >> the richest people in the country who normally support republicans support trump. the rickets family, i don't think will do it. >> no. >> paul singer. would people who have given a lot. there's lots of questions. trump could be the best fund-raiser of the three. that would worry a lot of people. >> or he could be the worst fund-raiser of the three. yesterday we talked about how trump when he was asked about that north carolina bathroom law that's causing so much controversy, he suggested that transgender people should use whatever latrine they feel

comfortable with. he went on hannity and elabor e elaborated on his position. >> we have to take care of everybody. north carolina, it's a great place, which i won. they have law and it's a law that, unfortunately, is causing them some problems. i fully understand if they want to go through. they are losing business and having a lot of people come out against. with me i look at it differently. we have so many big issues to be thinking about. we have isis to worry about. we have bringing trade back. we have rebuilding our military. i think that local communities and states should make the decision. i feel very strongly about that. the value government should not be involved. >> some people view that as a little bit of walk back. that didn't stop ted cruz from piling on today. his campaign tweeted out a web video that warns should a man pretending to be a woman be allowed to use the women's restroom. the same restroom used by your daughter, end quote. if trump becomes the nominee,

he's also in for a likely show down with anti-abortion parties. mark, there's no doubt in my mind, i'm sure in yours that trump is taking some degree of political risk within his party on social issues. can you understand that risk. is it worth it, potentially in. >> it's kind of extraordinary. trump takes so many risks on the eve of convention. he is taking provocative issues. most republican delegates disagree with him on. ted cruz looking for a wedge go after trump could go in big. i'll tell you what he's taking a risk. he thinks it's a good one. obviously, if he can survive this, it will help win the general election. >> i find it all the more perverse. when he's going all out or his

team is going all out to reassure the party, he's a traditional republican nominee. a traditional nominee is not talking these chances and talking about social issues. someone like george bush is running away from the issues. >> this may be a way to convince the delegate, this guy understands the prospect of winning an election. maybe he's taking positions to try to improve himself and one of his calling cards, saying what he believes. he's saying what he believes. taking a break now. coming up, virginia just got a whole bunch of new potential voters. we'll explain who they are and why it matters right after this.

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mr. terry mccaulif dropped an executive order. more than 250 felons can register to vote in the commonwealth. what are the political implications of what he's done? >> first of all, i think he's done the right thing. let me say that. i think if you go to prison you should become a full fledged member of society. a huge percentage is african-american. many people look and say this is a political move to try to move a bunch of new, likely democratic voters into the democratic column and give hillary clinton in the general election an advantage in an important swing state. >> terry has picked a fight, not his first fight with the

virginia legislature. gillespie said he thought for nonviolent offenders maybe this should be discussed. >> not to reward him for a favor. this notion of energizing the base. not just in virginia but around the country. virginia had one of the most restrictive laws in the country. not just zifcivil war but updat. there's no doubt this should have been looked at. republicans say look at it but negotiate with the legislatures. it will go back to this debate that we see in washington about whether executives have the

authority to do something like this. that will be challenged this court. >> can you imagine him on the ticket? >> nothing could be better. >> can you imagine it? >> not going to happen. >> thank you. still basking in the glory of hillary clinton's new york victory, her staff and supporters have made out their american made abacuses to argue bernie sanders has no plausible path to the nomination and should tone down his rhetoric in the coming primary contests. in interviews and events sanders has responded by not really doing that. consider this new interview with msnbc andrea mitchell where he doubles down on why it's so important that he remain in this race. >> why would we tell the people of california, the largest state in our country, you don't have a right to cast a vote. i believe we're going to allow, i know that we're going to allow people to decide what agenda they believe in, who they want to lead that agenda.

i think at the end of the day is good for the democratic party. i think a healthy campaign is about a clash of ideas. my ideas in many areas are different than secretary clintons and we'll continue to contrast that. the democrats by in large want to see the strongest candidate possible to take on and defeat trump or some other republican. that candidate is me. >> today, sanders seem to give clinton mostly a pass except by implication. >> the democratic party at large, most of them seem to be pressing sanders to get out of this race before june 8th. do you think there's anything that could happen between now and then that would? >> right now we don't know how he will do in these remaining contests.

you can probably hear more voices saying it. by the time leave out the contest next week, if we got halfway through may and she won everything, would he then be pressured to get out? i think the june contest are close enough in sight that no. i don't think you'll hear voices. i think people hear he's got a distinctive enough voice, they want to let him go and he will be allowed to go despite the few people saying to get out. >> there will be more people calling for him to shut this down if she sweeps the five contests on next tuesday. >> it will be more than there are now that will increase a bit. part of the question goes to tone. we played that bite from andrea which is pretty calm and not that harsh. there were some things he said last night that were a lot tougher than that. if he doesn't attack her judgment, doesn't attack her character, is not the kind of slashing or the way the clinton people think, they can live with him staying in the race in the

how long run. >> it's been a mixed bag. that interview he was more restrained than he had to be. it's also the case, the early indications are that when people like david say to try to force him out of the ray, ce, he getse back up. the less likely to get out. my guess is they will figure it out and tone it down. he'll stay in. they will attack her some. >> when we come back, the latest from the national committee meeting in hollywood, florida. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that's why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country.

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the trump alternative. they came away in terms of coverage, largely empty handed. it was more that the party needs to be the trump party and so if there's any news there, if history will record any news, i think it was the trump folks did a pretty good job of moving the dialogue towards the notion that trump would win. >> you can't get the nomination without a majority. >> you say it's too late. there's some people who -- >> i say there's never. >> if mitt romney and john mccain and jeb bush boycott the convention, that's survivable. if priebus urges people to get in line and the delegates get in line it makes a big difference if trump's the nominee. >> i think they made some

progress this week, the trump people did. it still strikes me that they have not radically altered the tone. there's still a lot of nervousness. they see the things he's doing. they like the professionalization. they are comfortable with a way that weren't comfy with corey. trump is a loose cannon and people are waiting to see not just how many delegates does he gets but how does he comport himself. is he more traditional than manafort said. sdpr joini i >> joining us by telephone is jennifer jacobs. if you're ted cruz, what's the best news you can say you brought out? what's the best thing that

happened to team cruz? >> they say they brought on new supporters. they say they got a comfortable handle, more than a conferredable handle of rnc members to come their way. they think they are making progress that way. they did win a lot of points with the full group of national committee members down here. they had a speech that was tailored right to the party members. a lot of people were talking about it and saying it was real good message. they like that. he dangled a lot of pledges and goodies. he said don't worry about what donald trump is worrying about what's on stage. just disregard it. he doesn't want to change the rules for the nominating process. he doesn't want to.

don't worry. in the coming months the donald trump will be coming out, the more reasoned donald trump. he assured on that. they also said magic trump. he's going to expand the map. he will carry the brand into more than traditional gop states. they like to hear that. manafort was helping to win. he said you know all those high negatives, we know it. no problem. it's a personality thing. we can fix that. they also said they will raise money and link up with establishment groups and congress and think tanks and unify in general. he made a lot of promises. everything they said is sounding good. they are ready to be new bffs. they are waiting to see if it

happens. >> jennifer, we talked about reince priebus speech. is he now resigned to the notion they will have to plan for a trump coronation at the convention? >> no, i don't think so. people are not sure who it's going to be. you had the stop trump movement saying listen, committee members. now is not the time to rally around someone you find objectionable. just know that we're going to have an open convention and who knows what's going to happen on this third ballot. stay calm. reince is saying no one will walk in with less than 1237 and walk away with this thing.

the message is whoever it is, we're all going to unify. >> you have two different projections at odds. tim miller who will be on this show. it is impossible or very, very unlikely. which calculation do they find more credible? >> they don't know the trump will make it. they have no idea if this will be an open convention or not. you don't see many people buying

that argument. >> jennifer, last question. what's the difference between des moines, iowa and hollywood, florida? >> palm trees. >> jennifer, thank you. >> she likes the palm trees a lot. coming up, we got two political operatives with one goal, stopping donald j. trump. we'll be right back. ♪

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we're going to start with a bit of an ice breaker where i want you to say, agree or disagree with statements. tim, just say agree or disagree. tim, your two organizations are allies? >> allies against trump, agree. >> kelly, somewhat agree. >> tim, governor kasich should drop out of the race, agree or disagree? >> now that i know we can cheat. disagree. >> agree or disagree. >> strongly agree. >> okay. tim, lord of the ring s better than harry potter? >> i'm not really into the magical forests regardless. i guess agree. >> agree. kelly. >> agree. >> john. >> i'm going to go through here. tim, only candidates who ran for president this cycle should be considered for the nomination at

the convention assuming there's a contested convention? >> i think most likely agree. if you get to third or fourth ballot. >> i thought tim was doing speculation about what will happen. >> kelly, agree or disagree? >> i'm a woman of brevity. strongly agree. paul ryan is right. you should have had to go through the process. the voters like the poke the fruit. >> if trump is less than or fewer than 100 delegates shy of 1237, he will then claim the republican nomination? >> disagree. >> kelly. >> he needs all 1237. >> will be able to claim the nomination. >> will be able to get there. will be the nominee. if he enters the convention with fewer than 100 short, will he

eventually end up being the nominee? >> he could be. he'll be in a good position. you need 1237. >> tim, quickly from you. prince was greater than michael jackson? >> agree, absolutely. >> prince was greater than the beetles. >> he have greater. >> no. that's a trump off. i think they are all talented in their own different ways. it's a huge loss. >> kelly, 15 contests left. donald trump lost wisconsin bad badly, are your organizations making efts there? what are states that could be conditions that are wisconsin like where trump faces real problems from your efforts? >> certainly indiana on may 3rd but even next tuesday, senator cruz is vying for delegates in states that are more hospitable to mr. trump in the northeast.

indiana is a hugely important state. you have nebraska, south dakota, montana, washington, oregon are proportional. you go to the big prize of california where people will say california is the liberal state. it's a moderate state. it's a republican primary situation. ever time we run moderate republicans they lose by double digits. perhaps the republicans in california, the conservatives in california would like a real conservative. i call kcalifornia the liberatin of the long suffering voters. you have 53 congressional districts there. they're awarded proportionally. you have to slice and dice the districts and figure out which are most amenable to your candidates message. that's what we plan to do. >> you put out a memo about how trump would never get to 1237 before june 8th, will he do well on tuesday and that will mean we're going to stop him in the next set of ten contests?

>> i think we've always felt like trump will do well in new york and will do well on tuesday. we went up in maryland with some advertising earlier this week and doing some targeted advertising in pennsylvania where we think senator cruz and potentially governor kasich could win districts and take delegates away from him. in the statewide races trump will do well on tuesday. the race will turn once you get to the lists and the math is really tough for him after tuesday. i think he'll have trouble as long as we can push back against this false narrative that they are trying to push forward that's detached from reality. >> what's the single most defective current argument that pro-cruz forces, the anti-trump forces are making against him being the nominee? >> it's what happened yesterday

with nbc savannah guthrie. the downside to being an outsider is you haven't thought about the policies. we get in the course of 40 seconds. donald trump saying transgender bathrooms not good. it was held by nominee, mitt romney, john mccain and he's going to tax the rich. they decide who the rich are when they decide who should be taxed. it's the down side of being the outsider when you get tho this point. you're going to get rapid fire questions about policy and not just the podium to yourself at rallies. >> tim, do you agree that's the most potent argument and how would you encapsulate it in an ad? >> i think it's one of the most important arts.

i think that vladmir putin and paul manafort and top advisors are playing into that. trump hurt regular people to hurt himself. you see that in things like trump and his business practices. he's a phony. he's not really a conservative. number three, it's an electability and a women's message he's not going to appeal to women in a general election against hillary clinton. those are three that people will be seeing from us. >> we're going to head to the biggest delegate prize of all that's remaining. of the 53 congressional districts that are holding separate elections, how much of those are congressional districts that ted cruz can win? >> we have identified in our pac about half of them that we think we can compete in viably. we have looked at the state, looked at the 12 different media

markets. we're also doing that in indiana. we looked at it in maryland where you have nine congressional districts. california just is this huge, you have to think about the 53 separate races you would be running and winnowing it down. i want to focus about the women's message. donald trump losing to hillary clinton is fairly new. he was better parody with her earlier in these contests. i think the last months have shown sort of a temperament or judgment and specific comments punishing women who get illegal abortions. it's really cost him among women. if your whole narrative is you're a winner and you can't win in the fall, even the republican primary voters that will look past the potty mouth politics aren't willing to take a chance on someone who can't get it done. >> we have very little time, tim. if ted cruz can compete in half

the california congressional districts, how many can kasich compete in? >> i think an additional handful that would get trump under a majority of delegates in california. >> i have to say donald trump are formidable. so are you two. thank you both for coming in. up next, al hunt. if you're watching in washington, d.c., you can listen to us on the radio, radio at bloomberg 99.1 fm.

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according to tom hanks in a league of their own, there's no crying in baseball. according to our next guest, there's no whining in politics. his column urges some presidential candidates to quit complaining about the rules. let me sd you this questioask ye have a new donald trump. how plausible is the new trump? >>. >> about as plausible as the new nixon was 40 years ago. it's an oxymoron that he will be presidential. it's like saying if only the nascar drivers will be more careful. people go to nascar to see crashes. people flock to him because of his insults, shots, lying ted,

crooked hillary. the venom. if he wanted to act presidential, he would have to talk about substantive issues of which he knows almost nothing and seems to care very little. every expert i talk to ridicule. >> al, let me ask you about how well you know paul manafort. give us a sketch of that guy. >> i've known paul for over 40 years. i like him. he does a good job at convention. convention hasn't done it in a while. i think probably in the land of the blind, the one eye man is king. i think paul will have huge problems ahead because some of the clients that he represented, we only hit the tip of the iceberg. they are some really awful, drea dreadful people. when you rise to the money he has today, that's going to

become much more public in the weeks ahead. >> i agree with you. i'm surprised it hasn't become an issue already. people saying i'm going to work for donald trump. i'm going to get donald trump elected. then you have people like mitt romney part of the never trump movement. what separates someone like a paul manafort from someone like a mitt romney? >> paul has never been a policy person. he hasn't been in the game for a while. i think romney is probably truly horrified by trump. this is ultimately about somebody being president of the united states. you can take a bernie sanders or ted cruz. they deal with some issue, certainly mitt romney did. he said he will re-negotiate the

trade pac with china. the problem is there isn't a trade pac with china. >> rnc members are typically not that into policy. they are into winning elections. i was surprised that manafort and other folks got down there. they seemed open. they seem closer to the notion of if this guy wins the nomination, let's all get on board than the romney view of trump. >> jennifer jacobs said there was a lot of skepticism. reince priebus wants this to end in some kind of harmony. if it doesn't, it wrecks his tenure. if this ends up in chaos, it's the lead. they don't want trump and they don't want harmony. they may be in total conflict. >> al, you have paul ryan down

there who decided he would not be a white knight. is that something that's likely to happen? >> paul ryan has been either chairman of the ways and means committee or speaker for five years. they have yet to move an alternative to obama care. i think he would like to do as a counter for trump, something their candidates can run on, you have to have something about the alternative to obama care. how will he deal with immigration and trade, two issues which he's 180 degrees apart from donald trump? i think they will put out something but fairly super official. >> you feeling good about the nationals? >> i'm feeling great. >> always a pleasure. up next, remembering prince and

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tragic death of prince will remain a mystery for a little longer. investigators trying to piece together the cause of his death. they have said they have come to any obvious conclusions. there's to reason to believe it was a suicide. yesterday, we talked about prince as an artist and political force. reaction continues to come in from all quarters. hillary clinton told a philadelphia radio station she was stunned and called prince a bigger than life personality. donald trump tweeted he was an amazing talent and wonderful guy. john kasich called him an extraordinary musician. that is true. we want to continue our conversation with toure, the author of the 2013 book, "i would die for you."

thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> any extent to which the commentary is overstating how important he was or we're not there yet? >> i don't think we're there. we're putting him in the proper context as one of the greatest musicians of the modern era. a guy who had every talent that a mod erp modern musician. everything you could want. the competitive drive. when somebody truly epic passes away, it's like we want. we can't go too high. this is the ceiling. it's like him, madonna and michael jackson. she's not nearly as talented as these two.

let's leave him out. michael is a great writer. hoo he's an amazing dancer and a great singer. prince made more great albums than michael jackson. >> he also plays 17 instruments. >> also had a broader vision of communication. >> absolutely. i'm just writing for the times about prince's spirituality and the importance to his music and canon. michael jackson is the leader of that group, but there is a support group that's helping hem get to the zenith. he was a early teenager in minneapolis. if you said that little, short

guy is going to become all this, you'd be like no way. >> let me ask you this question. this is a political show. we thought, let's prince politics. is prince a political artist or not? i can find some song lyrics. i know the gender stuff, social politics. the gender stuff, the political stuff. what are prince's politics? you would say what? >> in terms of the prerogatiogr stuff, what would you say? >> the embracing of gender difference and gender nuance. all those things that progressives love, he was cutting edge. susan rogers, his engineer on purple rain said he have a conservative. eric lee said his final argument

with prince was i finally figured out what you are. you're a republican. you think about songs like ronnie talk to russia, he was a conservativ conservative. susan said in the mold of i'm making money, i'm successful. i want this money and the success protected. it's when you don't have money that you need a revolution. >> the prince canon is done. maybe there will be some more unreleased stuff. >> i would think there's more music. >> what do you think he might have done that wanted to do in any medium? >> i just think do it again. he's like a million selling artists generally and purple rain goes up here to 20 million. he made one great movie. the others were like -- i think

he would have liked to have done another great movie, another big album. i don't think he looked at sales as a pressure of whether the project succeeded. i think he would have liked to continue to make more. he wasn't done. he was still performing. he was still writing. friend of mine was about to go in the studio and make music with him. still out there tweeting. he was not done. >> it seems to me that one of his great victories was a way in which he was, i called him radical, commercially. the fight with warner brothers. getting back his catalog, getting his masters. having full economic control of his destiny. he finally had that now and was free to stop playing around with that argument and giving it back to doing what he wanted to do which is just make good music and great music and not have to worry about this business stuff. >> it's really, really difficult to make great original music after age 40. john maher said before 40 you're

more likely to write a hit song. after 40 you want to spend your time touring because the likelihood of writing the song drops. you're not the world the way same was aa young person. the guy was such a big thinker. i would love to have seen what else he had in store. >> thanks for coming in. coming up, who won the week, right after this.

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