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tips. we have conducted between 50 and 60 interviews, and interviews are continuing right now as we speak. there have been over a hundred personnel involved in this investigation. five search warrants have been executed. four crime scenes have been worked. and as the sheriff just told you, some additional searching is being done. let me mention for a moment the crime scene. those crime scenes we told you were finished being worked early in the morning yesterday, but they are still being maintained and secured by the sheriff. this is at our request, and we believe that because of the
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seriousness of the case that this should happen so we can preserve that crime scene if we need to go back and take a second look or if we need to go back, looking for specific information. 18 pieces of evidence are now at the state crime lab at bci. those are being looked at by our dna people as well as looked at for other purposes. let me make kind of a statement about the nature of this case. this was a preplanned execution of eight individuals. it was a sophisticated operat n operation, and those who carried it out were trying to do
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everything they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution. and i just state that because as the sheriff has indicated, we would anticipate that this could be a lengthy investigation. this is not your case where someone has got mad at somebody else and they've shot them. there's a witness, two witnesses. it is very, very different type case. so let me also say while we will continue to provide you with information in regard to what we are doing, as i just did with the tips and the interviews and the 18 pieces of evidence, what we're not going to be able to do is provide you results. that may frustrate you.
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it may frustrate members of the public, but our goal -- we have to keep our eye on the goal, and the goal is to do everything within our power in this investigation to find these people or this person who has done this. we will not be telegraphing or telling the bad guys everything that we know, so we will continue to have briefings. we will continue to have information going out, but as the sheriff indicated, i think this could very well be a lengthy investigation. this is not -- while we may use the tools that you see on tv and we have great ability today with tools that we did not have ten years ago or 20 years agor 30 years ago, a lot of what is going on here is just basic,
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old-fashioned police work. i would also mention that we would ask for anyone who has information about this to contact us. jeff ruby has been gracious enough -- mr. ruby has been gracious enough to offer a $25,000 reward. i will again emphasize that. that money will be made available for someone who does bring us the key information that leads to convictions in this case. we're more than happy to respond to the questions. >> were any drugs found at the crime scenes? >> i'm not going to comment on that. >> how many killers do you think there are? >> don't know. there's a bad guy or bad guys. >> how many guns were used in this murder, sir?
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>> we're not going to talk about that. let me just do this again. i know you all have to do your job. i think you have always found me to be pretty accessible. i do not intend to give out one piece of information that will endanger the prosecution of the case or hinder the job to protect the people of the state of ohio. s in the interest of the people of the state of ohio that we find this murderer or these murderers as quick as we can. as much as i would like to be able to answer every question that you have and much as the sheriff would as well, we're simply not going to do it. >> were they involved in illicit or illegal activities? >> i'm not going to comment on that. >> is there any threat to public safety? can you make a statement to the community? >> i think the sheriff has said it very well, but i'll let him get in here and say it again. there's only one family that's been targeted.
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we have already expressed to that family and many members of that family our concern. >> does the family all have the same caliber -- >> let's let him finish that. >> i've spoke with the family. it's very evident that they were a target of this horrible crime. me and the attorney general spoke with them. i cautioned them that they were a target, and i told them to be armed. for the other citizens of this county, i don't believe that there is an issue. i've taken the precautionary measures to contact other sheriffs. in the past days, we've had over 100 persons in this area, including extra deputy sheriffs, state patrol, patrolling the roadways in that area, out of county people patrolling county lines. we are very accessible.
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anything out of the ordinary needs to be reported to local law enforcement so we can check it. if you are fearful, arm yourself. if you feel you need to protect yourself or your family, do so. contact local law enforcement to come and respond to it. we have almost 30,000 citizens in pike county covering 797 road miles and 497 road miles. i took an oath to serve those in my county, but i cannot promise any one of those 30,000 that i can be there to stop anything. we will be available. anything suspicious, report. i will make sure someone, including myself, is accessible to be there. >> was it all the same caliber. >> not going to comment on that. >> not going to comment on that. >> we have one here and one back
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there. [ inaudible ]. >> no. we don't know whether it is one or more people who are involved in this. >> what did they do to hinder the investigation? >> this was very methodical. this was well planned. this was not something that just happened. this was something that was planned. a family was targeted. most of them targeted while they were sleeping. >> and let me just say, if i said it incorrectly, i want to correct myself if i said that. because it was well planned out, because it was premeditated, because they calculated this, what they were going to do, obviously anybody who is planning something will do everything in their power to make it difficult for those investigators to find the information. what i did not say or what i did not mean to say -- i may have said it -- is they may have
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hindered the investigation. anybody who plans this out, clearly it's not like the person who doesn who spur of the moment comes up and shoots someone. it was well planned out and thought out, what they were going to do. >> the other thing i would like to say in the end of this we have to provide this to a prosecutor so this person or persons can be prosecuted. we will not have a second chance. we have to do it once and we have to do it right. we have to be methodical. we have to be vigilant. we have to work around the clock, and we have to get the things that we need to in the end the prosecution has what they need to do their job as well. >> has this investigation taken you beyond ohio, to neighboring states perhaps? >> no comment on that. >> is it still correct to say that you do not have any suspects at this point? >> no comment.
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>> before you said you had no suspects. are you pursuing leads? do you have someone in mind that it could be? >> no comment. [ inaudible ]. >> i have spoke with the family. we are very accessible to them. i'm not going to go into detail of what we're doing or not doing with that family. anything they need will be provided by my stuff or someone they can reach out to. >> do you have a motive yet? >> not going to comment on that. [ inaudible ] what did you find? >> no comment. >> we talked to a pastor who was a pastor to some of the victims and the best friend of dana rodin specifically. [ inaudible ] were they stalked? >> i won't comment on the word stalking. it clearly was planned and
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executed. >> and the person you spoke with is not part of this investigation. >> is there useful [ inaudible ]. >> no comment. >> can you comment on where that fifth search warrant was executed? >> not at this moment. i can tell you those search warrants will eventually be filed. once they are filed, it will be available. >> federally or with county? >> county. >> it will be county. >> why be so tight lipped about the investigation if there's people who want to help out right now? >> we want people to help out. we want them to come forward. we say to the public there's somebody out there who knows information. even if you think it may not be that helpful, but it might be helpful, we ask you to come forward. we'll preserve the secrecy of that information to us.
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we are pleading again to the public. there's a $25,000 reward for people who give us information that leads to a conviction. >> sheriff, is there a drug problem in this area? >> there's a drug problem in most areas around here. i would say there's a drug problem here. >> there's a drug problem throughout the state of ohio. >> if your searches of the crime scene, have you found evidence of marijuana growth operations? >> i'm not going to comment on that. [ inaudible ]. >> ma'am, again, i have got a team of 38 people going to every crime scene and they're scouting the woods looking for evidence that may be in those parts of the crime scenes. if they locate those, they will mark them, contact an agent and investigation. they'll collect that evidence and do with it what we need to. >> are you looking for a specific type of weapon? >> i'm not going to comment on
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that. >> you said you would recommend people be armed. do you mean literally with guns or just in broad sense of protection? >> i'm talking in the broad sense of protection. okay, there's two different people. we have a county with citizens that are concerned because we have a family that was targeted and lost eight family members. i've specifically told the rodin family that i would be armed and i would use what extent they have to protect themselves or their family. if any citizen of this county feel they are in jeopardy of physical harm or death, they can take those same measures. >> what about the surviving victims? where are they right now? >> i will not comment on that. >> can you give the gender of those three children? >> i don't know if that's been released or not. has it? >> i will not comment at this
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time. [ inaudible ]. >> absolutely not. not at this time. [ inaudible ]. >> it's my understanding that seven have already been completed. the eighth will be completed tomorrow. [ inaudible ]. >> that's at our bcr crime lab. we're looking at the pieces of evidence from a dna point of view and ballistic points of view. we'll be able to tell you the process and what we're doing. we're not going to be able to tell you the results. >> was law enforcement familiar with the family prior to this event? >> yes. we have a small county. we're familiar with most people. >> in terms of a criminal sense? >> i will not comment on that. i've never been involved with that family in a criminal nature, and i've been a law enforcement officer for 38
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years. >> the governor has expressed a real interest in this, has called me. i initially called him, but he continues to call me. i continue to give him a briefing. >> have you been able to identify which was the main target of the eight people that were murdered? >> all eight people that were murdered. >> they were all murdered. they were all murdered execution style. they went after all of them. >> is there any sort of funding, funeral fund, setting up of an account? >> that i'm unaware of. >> we have a victim program in the attorney general's office that we administer. we're reaching out to the family of the victims to make them aware of the possibility to access money in the future. it has to be unreimbursed.
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it would be expenses that were not reimbursed by insurance or something else. the other thing that we do -- we had as the sheriff did and the county did people at the church, who are victim rights advocates, who are used to deal with people who are grieving and who are members of the families of victims. and that will continue as long as family members want any of that. >> the pain is evident in this community. can you talk a little bit about the emotional aspects for you as investigators, the emotion here felt in this community? >> i'm a member of that community. it is very emotional to find out that eight people of your community were murdered, okay? and that emotion is widespread throughout this county. all i can do is ensure we're working around the clock, that we're working in conjunction with multiple agencies, so we can search and find who is responsible for that. >> let me just mention from a
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personal point of view. i've been in pike county many, many, many times over the last few decades. this is a wonderful county with wonderful people, beautiful, beautiful place to raise a family. my heart just goes out to the family members, but also to the whole community. this is something that very few people fortunately ever have to experience in a small county like this. to have eight of their fellow citizens murdered in a calculated manner, it is just horrible. my commitment to the people of pike county is that from the attorney general's point of view and bci point of view, nothing is more important going on in the state. we'll continue to have dozens and dozens of people here with this investigation and with the sheriff until we find out who did this. >> thank you.
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>> which victims were at which location? the 911 call sheds a little light on that. >> we'll see if we can get that. we'll see. okay. do you want to do it? or do you want to do it? >> go ahead. >> you can give the details. i think it is okay for us to confirm that we did find marijuana in three locations. >> near the crime scenes or at the crime scene? >> at the crime scene. >> bags of marijuana? >> growth operations? >> growth operations. thank you all very much. >> there we have a horrific and a gargantuan story from a town
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in ohio. that piece of information at the end perhaps could be essential, maybe not, but as you saw they were very deliberate in deciding what pieces of information they were going to release. yes, three locations where marijuana was found, it was stated by the sheriff there that that area does have an issue with drugs, but then we saw from the attorney general of ohio saying the entire state has an issue with drugs. that'll certainly be an investigative point as was discussed at the end of the 20-minute news briefing that we saw. no suspect has been named. no indication of a motive at the moment that was released from the sheriff or the attorney general as well. and what has changed since the last day, the last 24 hours, in addition to the pieces of information that we just
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learned, the attorney general said yesterday they had completed all the investigations at the crime scenes themselves. today, as we learned, although they have finished that part, they are going to be sealing or protecting those areas. they are now going back as you see on the left-hand side of your screen some live shots throughout the briefing where they're sending out 38 members, some of which may be the deputies themselves from pike county, to relook at not only the areas themselves, the crime scenes, but areas around those spaces. so perhaps they can get more information. and just to go over some of the numbers they gave us, 100 tips so far. 50 to 60 interviews. over 100 personnel are involved right now. the number of deputies in pike county, only about a dozen. as has been said by the 41st sheriff there in pike county, the biggest he's seen in his 20 years as sheriff and law
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enforcement in that area. four crime scenes. 18 pieces of evidence now into dna. the autopsies of the eight victims, all from one family, the rodin family, are happening over this weekend as we've been told so far. again, one family. the note that they were making is clearly planned. this was not a matter of anger. something that had happened in a heated moment. they were very clear to say that. you can see throughout that 20 minutes this is very personal, and there was certainly an edge as they went throughout this entire briefing because it involves brothers, a sister, a married couple, a cousin, it involves sons and a daughter. we'll continue to watch what's happening in this latest breaking story out of piketon, ohio. for the very latest, go to
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an expedition to antarctica
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to explore the globe turns into an over the top moment for a dutch tourist. >> we were all shouting and screaming. >> a giant iceberg implodes in front of his eyes, and luckily for us, in front of the lens of his small digital camera. >> the adrenaline rush was enormous. february 10th, 2012, wilhemina bay, antarctica. while on the trip to argentina, lex and his girlfriend, pietra, set out to explore the remote continent. antarctica is 720 miles from the argentinian coast. and in their words, so close. >> you should really try to go there. normally, it would be way too expensive. >> an argentinian travel group sponsors tours several times a year, particularly during the six arctic summer months from october through march.
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>> twice a day, you do expeditions. so you go in the small raft. antarctica is a different world. if you haven't been there, you can't imagine what it's like. it's so beautiful, the scenery. you have all these animals you don't have in the rest of the world. you have no plants. you have two types of moss that grow there. that's it. yeah, it's amazing. >> although the antarctica vistas are spectacular, they're set against the backdrop of frigid weather. average temperatures on the continent hover around minus 70 degrees fahrenheit. at the time of lex's trip, it was summer and it was a bit warmer. >> it was around zero. it was really cold. the wind is really cold. the ice is really cold. you have a lot of layers on. jackets, scarves, hats. >> despite the bitter cold, lex and company soak in every
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breathtaking moment of this remarkable landscape. >> we were down on the raft and flowing past beautiful icebergs and islands. >> the raft circles the icebergs close enough for the group to get a true appreciation of how enormous and imposing they really are. one in particular catches lex's eye. >> this iceberg, it was really beautiful. i think it's probably the most beautiful iceberg i saw there. everything is sort of black and white and then this really sharp blue iceberg floated in the water. they are really like sculptures. this one sort of looked like a skull in the beginning. then pieces were falling off. >> the group returns to the ship, but is so intrigued by this particular iceberg that they go back on a second expedition that same day to get a better look at it, not knowing
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the extraordinary moment that is about to unfold. >> oh, cool! i just switched on my camera. >> we went again because when you're in the antarctic, you want to do as much as you can. you're never going to be there again. >> when they get close, lex sees the big floating block of ice has changed. it's hollowed out because gigantic pieces of it continue to fall off more rapidly and are crashing into the water. >> oh, cool! >> pieces were falling off. it was a lot of noise. and so we were circling it for, i think, maybe six minutes, something like that. and then at one point, when we actually were thinking, okay, nothing is going to happen.
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>> and just when lex thinks the dramatic show is over, the iceberg gives an unexpected finale. >> it just fell apart. it was a perfect implosion. and these big chunks of ice just were thrown towards us. like the iceberg spat them out. >> the giant iceberg collapses, plunging into the deep, frigid water. it's a frightening scenario because the impact from the implosion could easily overturn the little raft. despite the danger, lex isn't feeling fear. >> the adrenaline rush was enormous. we were all shouting and screaming. >> quickly, the tour guides maneuver the raft away from the falling chunks of ice and any potential large waves.
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>> you can still see some chunks hitting the boat. >> after the ice stops raining down on the boat, sheer excitement takes over. >> this is a very old iceberg, if you can imagine such a thing. >> geologist and hartwick college professor robert titus analyzes lex's footage and says the iceberg had all the telltale signs of an impending breakdown. >> now what's happening here is this iceberg drifted into warm water. the warmth of the surrounding water caused the ice to expand and to contract and to fracture and to crack. and by the time these people got there, the whole thing simply collapsed. >> lex uploads his incredible
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shot to youtube and within one month she -- he gets 200,000 views. sometimes it takes traveling thousands of miles away from home to be in the right place at the right time. and just -- yeah, happened to >> i was really lucky. and just -- yeah, happened to hold the camera and be happy to show it to the rest of the world. coming up -- residents of a small italian town run for their lives to escape a massive landslide. when "caught on camera: watch out" continues. amatic transformn without the need for fillers. your concert tee might show your age...your skin never will. olay regenerist.
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the killer or killers remains at large, but that the execution style slayings were clearly planned out and sophisticated. now as we speak, a team of 38 is combing for clues near the crime scenes in piketon. anyone with information being urged to come forward right now. for now, back to "caught on camera." a massive river of mud, trees, and dirt flows down a mountain side, threatening a small town. forcing people to run for their lives. february 15th, 2010, italy. the ancient town has had its share of landslides, but after
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nine days of relentless rain, residents are bracing for what looks like an unprecedented disaster. husband and wife journalists are called to cover the unfolding story by the mayor of the town. >> translator: the mayor that i was acquainted with urged me to go and see it. however, it was a period of strong torrential rains that had continued for days and days and there were landslides just about everywhere, so we decided to do different ones and wait, keeping this town for last. >> by the time they arrived, most of the small town of 200 is evacuated, but people remain near the danger zone, not expecting the hillside to come down. astonished at the scene unfolding in front of her, patrizia grabs her camera from the back of her car and starts shooting. >> translator: in the distance, i framed a high-voltage pole that very slowly began to descend, descend, descend until it finally toppled over.
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that's when we realized that this was something much more serious than we could imagine. >> what she sees through her camera's viewfinder is something out of a biblical text. the earth buckles, waves and moves like an ocean. >> translator: little by little, we saw the hill start to crumble, and then at a certain point, suddenly the mountain came tumbling down. i don't know if i realized it or i hadn't realized it, i planted myself there with a television camera on my shoulder and recorded. >> the civilian protection men try to block them from shooting, but they just keep on working. >> translator: at a certain point, we heard a deafening noise far away.
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and then this imposing immense landslide. i have to tell the truth, i didn't check my words. [ speaking in italian ] luckily, i didn't say anything strange, and we went live, recording video and audio. and reporting what is an immediate sensation, because that was precisely the effect. something unimaginable, unforeseeable was happening before our eyes. and it was huge. [ speaking italian ] >> geologist and hartwick college professor robert titus explain this geological phenomenon. >> i think this was an extraordinary landslide, first for the power that it displayed. you saw waves, choppy waves of
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soil moving up and down, sliding by at a remarkable rate of speed. any human being, any person, any animal in the way would have been killed. any house, any home, any building would have surely been destroyed. >> titus says the heavy and prolonged rainfall over several days prior to the landslide saturated the ground, turning the solid limestone rock and clay soil into an oozing muck. >> that explains why this is such a rapid -- almost astonishing. it's almost like watching water flow by. >> wave after wave of soil, rock and trees break off and crumble down the mountain. the landslide keeps going and going and going. this scene lasts for 30 minutes, and patrizia and mauricio record it all. >> translator: the effect was truly hypnotic because of what was happening. to tell you the truth, we
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realized the exceptional nature of the event above all when we saw the images of the event later. >> despite some people choosing not to evacuate, nobody is injured or killed and perhaps even more astonishing, no homes are lost. >> translator: we were in an area totally outside of the town. the last house that's visible is precisely the last house in town. there's nothing beyond that point. there's only a road that links it with another town that now doesn't exist anymore either. >> after they visit the landslide area two years later, they are concerned that no repairs have been done. the road is still not fixed and the mountainside is not secured. mauricio is especially affected since he was born here and still has family there. >> translator: sometimes i go back there. it also happens that i go back to that area. i must tell the truth, it upsets me, because two years later,
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i thought something would have been done. nothing has been done and i'm very sorry about that. >> geologists say landslides of this magnitude are somewhat unpredictable. but luckily for the people of this town, everyone survived this one. [ shouting in italian ] coming up -- fear strikes tinseltown when an enormous sinkhole opens up in the middle of hollywood boulevard. >> my first concern was anybody killed or injured in the hole. >> when "caught on camera: watch out" continues. understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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surprise. >> i would have fell right in. >> my staff and i were out on the street going, oh, this looks like this could be really bad. >> june 22, 1995, hollywood, california. tinseltown brings to mind the images of big homes, big stars, and the iconic hilltop sign. but this unfolding disaster is not happening in the hollywood hills or on an expensive soundstage. >> that part of hollywood is not the glamour part of hollywood. we call it east hollywood here in los angeles. it's more residential. it's more community. >> jackie goldberg is a former los angeles city councilwoman. in 1995, she represents a district where the city is building a subway. it's one of the largest public works projects of its time, and some of goldberg's constituents are complaining about it. >> we don't need a metro rail as they are proposing it. let's get back to the buses
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where the people really can be moved around properly. >> not only are residents complaining, but so are the business owners. for them, it's less about the subway itself than the construction. they're losing money. >> it takes so long to build these things underground and you just don't have much choice but to tear streets up and close streets. businesses were putting big signs on their property saying, "open for business during construction" because it looked like you couldn't get there. and people were angry. >> so when a water main breaks at the construction site on hollywood boulevard, goldberg holds a press conference to bring attention to the problem. as goldberg stands in front of news cameras, the water main problem suddenly gets much worse. >> we were actually not far from the actual location that morning. some people were very concerned that a lot of water was being pumped out from under the soil in hollywood, and so we had engineers and we had technical people who were explaining that
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this was all going to be fine and then crack. >> the crack she hears is the sound of the roadway caving into the subway tunnel under construction. mud, rocks, dirt and water cascade down into a big hole, exposing sensitive utility pipes. the news crews on site capture the dramatic event as it unfolds. >> my first concern was was anybody killed or injured in the hole. fortunately, it turned out that though they were working in there, when they heard the crack, they all moved away from the street to be sure that nothing was going to happen. >> the crater keeps expanding until it measures 70 feet wide and 70 feet deep. as the hole grows in size, so does goldberg's anxiety. her biggest fear is the exposed gas lines. >> we got all the gas company
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people out there to start shutting off gas lines around the area. you break a water line, you get water. you break an electric thing, you might get a live wire down there. but gas explodes. so we got the gas turned off pretty darn quickly and that's why there were no explosions in the surrounding area. >> the neighboring streets are shut down to traffic and about 70 patients are evacuated from a nearby hospital. although people in the area are inconvenienced, no one is injured or killed. city and state investigations conclude that the sinkhole is caused by the water main break, but there's still debate about whether it was caused by corrosion of the aging main or triggered by subway construction. >> whatever it was, it was a broken water main. not just the pipe but the main. that's one of these things that carry lots of volume, and that water evidently had been coming in for sometime before it was detected. >> crews repair the water main, fill the hole with concrete and
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a huge industrial building collapses under the weight of heavy snow. >> wow. i can't believe this has occurred. >> but the terrifying question is -- >> oh my gosh, is everybody okay? did everyone get out? february 3rd, 2011, easton, massachusetts. the northeast experiences one of the worst winters in years. snowfall averages in region break records. peter howe is a reporter for new england cable news in newton, massachusetts. >> it was a horrible winter. i can't remember what the first snow was, but it was probably november. it started snowing. it kept snowing every five days. it never got warm enough for it to melt. the snow piled up and piled up and piled up. >> that morning a snowy, icy rain is falling. howe and cameraman brian butler are sent to cover potential roof collapses all over the county. >> we knew the day before there may be some roof problems because of all the snow on roofs and the added weight of the water and the assignment desk called us. they said there's a building in easton, massachusetts. can you head over that way? and we said sure. >> they arrive at the triton technology building a few
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minutes before 11:00 a.m., and are astonished to see the entire building is buckling. >> we had been hearing extraordinary sounds. just kind of groaning, creaking, the twisting of metal, bricks literally popping out of the building as the wall falls in. is there any still in the bui building? the building is the east coast hub of tritan technologies, a 24-hour call center with about 100 employees. tritan's chief legal counsel, kathleen dias, works at the facility. she hadn't yet arrived but employees called her, alarmed by the loud noises the brick building is making. >> somebody described it like a freight train coming, and then the fire alarms went off. it was really people looking up at the ceiling and seeing ceiling tiles moving and going, that's not normal. something really serious is going on here.
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>> a supervisor ordered everyone out of their seats and hurries them to an exit. >> luckily, we have a sales manager on the floor who heard the noises and literally stood up and started shouting at people to get out of the building and grabbed people by the shoulders and got their attention and pushed people out the door. >> it's only a few minutes after the last employee leaves that the building starts to fall. >> the wall of the building was bowed and it was slowly falling backwards away from us. >> you could hear glass beg beginning to crack as the strain of the building is going on itself. >> probably a 30-foot wall, 30 feet high, just slowly leaning back in a bowed position. >> and all of a sudden, everything accelerates. and it goes from creak, creak, bang to just the whole thing just falls.
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it's easily the most extraordinary thing i've been there to witness. >> tritan loses an office building but no lives. the company credits quick-thinking staff with getting everyone out in time. jay nally is tritan's president and ceo. >> we had to do some very extraordinary things to make sure everybody out of the building safely. >> some of the employees really did understand the magnitude and seriousness of the situation and had the presence of mind to react to it. a 100-year-old building collapses in the middle of a busy city sending firefighters scrambling for safety. >> there's a gut feeling. i knew something would happen.
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>> may 5th, 1997. new york city. more than 200 firefighters are called to the scene of an unrelenting blaze in the heart of manhattan's garment district. it starts in the cramped, narrow basement of a shoe store which is packed to capacity with highly flammable material. the century old building has no sprinkler system. >> the fire was so heavy in the basement we tried to put it out with foam. there were heavy boxes and garments mostly shoes we think stored up to the ceiling. >> retired assistant chief harry norum was one of the commanders overseeing operations that day. >> they went to the staircase inside. there were no exterior openings. so now the officer takes four or five men into the cellar. the boxes were falling down into the area of escape. so first the chief says okay, let's get out of the cellar.
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>> they are forced to fight the fire from the outside but that has its risks. norum is concerned the old building will not be able to withstand the heat of the fire, and the weight of the water being pumped in to fight it. >> we were providing 500 gallons per minute at these locations. which leads to the dead load in the building. >> the city's buildings department tells norm that the structure is stable because there aren't any cracks or bulges in the walls but he doesn't take any chances and establishes a wide perimeter or collapse zone around it. >> we moved those trucks and the equipment, and the hose lines away from the building to the opposite side of the street. >> firefighters are also repositioned across the street and continue their efforts to control the blaze. norum's instincts are right. after nine hours of fire and thousands of gallons of water
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pumped in, the walls suddenly give way, raining bricks and debris on the street below. >> the initial sound to me was like a crack. then a rumble. and then, of course, everything became physical. you could see the interior collapsed. pulled the wall down in a curtain-like fashion. >> residents are grateful there are no fatalities or serious injuries, but the loss of homes and businesses is a blow. >> your life is gone. everything that you had, everything is just gone. >> for chief norum, the collapse emphasizes an important caution, there are often hidden hazards behind the fire and smoke. >> it's very, very important that people in the area, especially firefighters and other agency people know that the dangers don't subside after
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fire is brought under control. at any time, in any place -- >> i couldn't believe it, that that was happening. >> -- disaster can happen when mother nature and man collide. from raging floodwaters -- >> she was alone, screaming for help. >> -- to devastating earthquakes. >> there's another woman. >> unexpected. extreme and breathtaking momts

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