as there was a viable path to victory. tonight i'm sorry to say -- >> no! >> -- it appears that path has been foreclosed. together we left it all on the field in indiana. we gave it everything we've got. but the voters chose another path. and so with a heavy heart, but with boundless optimism for the long-term future of our nation, we are suspending our campaign. >> no! >> but hear me now, i am not suspending our fight for liberty. >> just so you understand, ted cruz, i don't know if he likes me or if he doesn't like me, but

he is one hell of a competitor. he is a tough, smart guy. and he has got an amazing future. he's got an amazing future. so i want to congratulate ted. and i know how tough it is, it's tough. it's tough. i've had some moments where it was not looking so good. and it's not a great feeling. so i understand how ted feels. and heidi and their hole beautiful family. and i just want to say, that's one tough competitor. >> there is a statute of limitations on attacking the family, i guess. >> i meant on the kennedys -- >> exactly. you accuse him in the morning -- >> welcome back to a special extended hour of "morning joe." it is wednesday, may 4. with us we have mark halperin,

pulitzer prize winner jon meacham. please keep us up-to-date. >> 1954. >> no, don't bore us. form former ted cruz republican strategist, and we have ben ginsberg. and the author of the book "love that boy," ron fournier. >> let's go around here a little bit. around the horn. so, tell me, mark, what was your takeaway from last night, how do you put the trump victory into perspective? >> well, the key thing was reince priebus saying this is our nominee. it's going to be now, as ted cruz would say, a time for choosing. you're going to see some prominent people in the next 48 hours, republicans, come out for hillary clinton. you're going the see the clintons organizing that effort.

and then you're going to see donald trump, i think, to a surprising degree to some, largely unify this republican party in a big hurry, start to do fund-raising as he suggested to you guys already. and now the question, can he win? democrats don't think he can. there are people who sit around this table that don't think he can. he's going to have to prove if this is something powerful as a general election enterprise as it was extraordinarily powerful for a nomination fight. >> do -- don't most republicans want to have a future in presidential politics have to get behind donald trump? because to not do so will forever brand them as people who helped hillary clinton? do you believe hillary clinton is going to win, then don't you get behind donald trump? >> it's hanging in the balance, elected officials will largely get behind him, but you'll see a lot of business people, retired

military people be for hillary clinton. donald trump needs to get democrats to fight the symbolic war, but there are going to be some elected officials who won't vote for trump. >> jon meacham, historic perspective, is there anything to what donald trump just accomplished? >> he's analogy-proof more and more. as we talked about, most forces who begin with anger as the main driver, anger is a great starter, it's not a good finisher. i thought for a long time he represented the style of american politics where you point at other people to blame them for problems. but there's clearly a deep residence. i think it is bipartisan. i think he's an anti-establishment campaign, not just for the strategist that mark is talking about but also the democratic establishment. and the reason the general election is not a foregone conclusion is that his general election opponent, more likely than not, is the embodiment of establishment politicians.

>> he's drawing to clinton now in the general. >> just look at the numbers. according to nbc news exit polling in indiana, 59% of republican primary voters want the next president to come from outside the party establishment. half of the republican primary voters who turned out yesterday say they felt betrayed by their own party. as in other races, voters with no college degree, 59% voted without one. and over women voters, he got 47% of female support in indiana. trump also beat the field among white evangelicals taking 50% of that group's voters. one-third of republican voters say they did not make up their minds until last week. cruz benefited the most from voters who decided late. and while trump won over some voters in the last few days, more than half made up their minds more than a month ago.

>> so rick, it's impossible, really, to put this all in perspective for those of us that have been involved in politics for a while. after the wreckage of the past nine months, how do you put in perspective to prepare candidates, let's say in 2018 or 2020, what is the new landscape for republican candidates? >> well, i think there are less sons to be learned. to be fair to the cruz campaign, they ran an exceptionally run campaign, it just wasn't enough. part of the group -- >> why wasn't it enough because he ran the most organized professional campaign? >> they raised enough money. they came -- overcame a lot of objections. the expectations for him were low, he exceeded them, they were incredibly organized and a great grassroots effort they were able to organize. and they coalesced a lot of the tea party evangelical vote. that would have been enough to beat the establishment candidate. guess what?

the establishment candidate didn't show up, donald trump did. and donald trump in many ways is not a politician. you saw the numbers, people are mad at this party. >> they don't want politicians. >> they are mad at washington. and maybe john remembers, i don't remember a civilian ever taking the nomination of a major political party. >> no. >> i don't think it has ever happened. >> no. window wilky -- it wasn't a leap. eisenhower in '52. >> you have covered the clintons longer than any of us, some in the clinton camp say we can't lose this race. trump is just too bad of a position. do you think the clintons are worried that they can lose this race? >> i do. now, i don't know firsthand, it's not like i'm talking directly to bill clinton or hillary clinton, but i do know them. and they -- look, they run scared. one reason he was so successful, his whole political life, one reason she's so successful is they have run scared. they are always worried that

somebody's out to get them, the media's out to get them, they are underfund and their opponent is better than they are. so i don't think they will take him for granted. we are living in unpredictable times. even though all the metrics point to her winning the presidency, that this is an election you can't count on the old numbers. that they've got to come at him hard and fast and not let up. >> we asked donald trump about hillary clinton's comments about whether she thought he was unqualified to be commander in chief. first, let's look at what clinton said to andrea mitchell yesterday followed by trump's response. >> he's given no indication that he understands the gravities and responsibilities that go along with being commander in chief and that's a big part of my campaign. at some point he has to be held to the standard we hold anybody running for path and commander in chief.

what is it you know? what is it you've done? what is it you are proposing to do as president and commander in chief? so far we have not seen any of that. >> it is just another politician talking. and, look, bernie sanders said about hillary clinton, she's got poor judgment. he also said, by the way, she's unqualified but i won't even go there. but bernie sanders said that she's got poor judgment. and she does. you look at the e-mail scandal. she shouldn't even be allowed to run, you know that, joe knows that and everybody knows that. she's only being protected by the democrats. she should not be allowed to run in the election. she should not be -- she should suffer like other people have suffered who have done far less than she has. i mean, you look at so many, i won't even mention names anymore, but you look at so many people that have done far less than her in the same subject matter, and it's been a horror show. and here she is running for president like nothing happened. she shouldn't even be allowed to run, you know that.

>> it's really interesting, mika, donald trump will try -- low energy jab, lyin' ted, he tries different things, he's been trying out new things with hillary. crooked hillary -- i will tell you what he just said there is the most devastating line. she's just another politician. that's -- that's his line. >> that's for sure. and also, her criticism of him in normal circumstances is totally legitimate. is legitimate. not even under normal circumstances, but that's just not -- he's never going to present the way one thinks he should be required to be. so her criticism is flat because it's donald trump. >> and when he says just another politician, that's a 2016 equivalent of there you go again. >> yeah. >> just brush it aside. another political -- bob costa, what's the current state of the republican establishment in

washington, d.c.? what can you report on who is coming on board for trump or at least the pace of that? does official washington seem resigned to the fact that this guy is the nominee and they are eventually going to have to line up behind him? or is there going to be a conservative civil war? >> on the right side of the party, the ideological right, we're seeing some reservations for donald trump. there's a sense that cruz was their candidate, they would like to see maybe a third-party or independent but don't see anyone emerging to fit that bill. and the washington establishment question, yes, based on my reporting, that group last night and this morning, they are warming to trump and sending e-mails to the campaign to try to get on board. >> yeah. you know, mark salter, it's not a great job. i mean, john mccain saying he'll advise, that's a big movement. are we -- >> that is. >> have you heard of names that are going to shock us? like colin powell, not a shock. >> there's going to be a lot

like mark salter, that's the least surprising republican. there are going to be some very prominent business people, some very prominent military people, some very prominent retired republican politicians who are going to be for her. you know, the key -- a big key for me for the clintons is they have to win news cycles. trump dominated every news cycle running in the republican race. and the clintons studied that and they understand that part of this game is to not let trump control the agenda. hour to hour, minute to minute, day to day. yes, there will be some name that is will draw a lot of attention. the clintons will have to decide one at a time, press conferences, et cetera. and women are the key. they are prominent republican women that will endorse her. >> you think like susan collins? >> i don't think a lot of incumbents will. but we still have the question, is there a write-in effort? there's not a third candidate but a write-in effort? people say, write in john

danforth or something, but again, the key for the clintons is can they use those to counter act what trump is going to want to talk about? because the press will cover every prominent afection. >> and again, ron fournier, endorsements don't matter to your relatives inn michigan. in fact, endorsements only help this guy. i'm not doing trump's bidding, it's the case. find me a politician or somebody who has been a part of the disaster that our government has been over the past 20 years. >> who was pushed over the line. >> that is going to endorse donald trump's opponent. you hold the press conference, i'll put out a tweet that will destroy them. i mean, we saw him do it to elizabeth warren. we have seen him do it time and time again to everybody else. it's savage and it ends up controlling the news cycle. here's the very staged press conference and here's donald trump's tweet that goes to the -- >> or instagram. >> the greatest weakness of this

person to humiliate him. >> but that can be flipped against him. i've spent time in indiana years ago doing something called in nothing we trust. the public's loss of faith in all our institutions. including our politicians, which is why endorsements don't matter. it's also why i think we're headed for a several cycle of disruption and realignment and big surprises in politics. so one of those surprises, this cycle could be hillary clinton flipping the script on donald trump. what if she was on instagram and twitter as much as trump? what if she was coming at him as hard and personal? and using the fact against him. this guy has given her a lot of ammunition. you could really make the case that he's not ready to be president of the united states. what if she let it all hang out there, if she was accessible to the media as he was, what if she understood it was not about advertising but a powerful message. that you pound it home every day. it would be very interesting if she played trump's game with her

background and experience. >> well, jon meacham? >> well, ron and mark remember this better than most of us, but in the way that reagan and kennedy did television, fdr did radio, bill clinton did cable tv. >> right. and now donald trump has done twitter and instagram. >> so the question is, can senator clinton plausibly unmaster the means of communication? you know, even watching the great interview with andrea, it does feel like the untouchables, who brings a knife to a gunfight? >> i agree endorsements don't mean much, but if every joint chiefs of staff endorses hillary clinton, trump will beat her in the news cycles, she needs something to talk about and the press will cover that. it's the symbolism and what they say. it will allow her to win news

cycles. >> i think that she -- i agree with you, ron fournier, a press conference and endorsement doesn't do it. they are going to have to do exactly what you said. they are going to have to go an alternative route to what worked in 1992. >> politics is now stripped down to the earn. that's why we talk about donald trump being a celebrity. every politician is their own brand. she has to win or lose it on her own. you can line up republican stalwarts from here to mars and roll on every day, you may win a few news cycles but lose the presidency. >> let's go to ben ginsberg, a sign of the times, kelly ayotte's spokesperson is now telling us she is going to support donald trump. and i'll just say it, i said it a month ago, donald trump helps kelly ayotte in new hampshire more than ted cruz would have. ted cruz is a type of guy, and i'll put myself in that category, when i was in congress, a southern hard right

republican that scares people in new england. donald trump doesn't. i mean, this is a win in some places and it's a lose in some places. kelly ayotte has figured out the fight of her life. it's not so bad to have donald trump on your side in new hampshire. >> yeah, mostly the contested senate races are in state where is donald trump can absolutely expand the electorate in ways ted cruz couldn't. what will be interesting over the next 80 days between now and the convention is which donald trump shows up. and what he says on specific policy questions that he's asked. >> yeah, bob costa, that's a question which donald trump shows up. the donald trump we have seen, for the most part, that we did not see yesterday morning when lee harvey oswald's name slipped from his tongue, is a more disciplined donald trump post-wisconsin. any insights into this campaign and the internal struggle within the campaign on which donald trump we see throughout the

general? >> speaking of my trump sources last night and this morning, my sense is it will be a two-part war. trump will come to washington in the next week or so and try to repair the relationships with the republican party, try to get the conservatives on his side. at the same time, trump people say he wants to be having an unpredictable battle against clinton day-to-day for the headlines. he can be presidential on the republican front, get the policy speeches out there with more pitches and proposals, but he wants his war in the media to be daily and incessant and unpredictable. >> rick, if you're advising donald trump, if he calls you this morning, here's a new cnn poll, hillary ahead of trump 54% to 41%. bernie ahead of trump, 56% to 40%. if you're advising donald trump this morning, gives you a call and says, rick, what do i do? what do you tell him? >> there's an essential argument, which is why ron and mark are right, except one is going to prevail in the

argument. that is, do we want an outsider who has run successful businesses and can that outsider run government? and are people angry enough to do that to give donald trump the presidency? and then hillary clinton, the other side, who is a politician, which he's going to work in her negative, but she's going to say, are you really going to put party over country and really put the safety and security and the predictability and the dollar and trade and everything else at risk for donald trump? and that is going to be the central tension. but when one of the things that donald trump has done very, very well and hillary clinton needs to learn in the broad sense is, we talked about social media, but also it has been mentioned a little surprising, but you have to do morning television. that was something i saw on the campaign is donald trump got up every morning and dominated the news cycle from 6:00 a.m. on. including this show. call in the show, get in the news cycle, drive the news all day -- >> and by the way, is that you

trying to jump in, wrot ron? ron says, you guys turn your show over to trump and let him call in. he's the only one that has taken us up on this. i'm not going to name any candidates that have lost, but if you're not smart enough to sit around this table or call in to take three our fr four peopl throwing questions at you, you don't win in the political landscape? you have to be able to think on your feet. trump could. most of the other 16 couldn't. >> let's go back to that graphic as you said and i'll give hillary clinton advice. you show how far she's ahead of jump right now. if you go back and look at the polls this summer, every poll showed donald trump was going to win the nomination, right? everyone except this show ignored it. donald trump better not ignore the polls now. hillary clinton is in position to blow him away. so if i'm hillary clinton, again, i don't let my foot off his neck. i call in to "morning joe" and

every talk show. i'm all over twitter. i realize this is not about endorsements or about a big media plan. this is not about the electorate. those are sideline issues. this is me and him and i'm better qualified than he is. so i'm going to show the american public this is about my character and my message. nothing else matter. if you use the new media and lead with confidence and don't be afraid of making a mistake, there's no reason she can't put him away. >> that's a key, mark halperin, not being afraid of making the mistake. donald trump, he's fearless. i hate to say -- why do you always talk about your campaign, i can't really talk about somebody else's campaign as well as i can talk about mine, the most effective ad that people supporting every put out was an ad against my primary opponent that was supposed to destroy me. and i just put four quotes on a full-page ad. people who supported me did. all that white space, those four

quotes, the dates, the times she said it, it was devastated. hillary clinton could do that to donald trump today through the general election using instagram and twitter. that would be more effective. again, i know you disagree that endorsements -- >> let me tell you what i think about endorsements. i don't think she can beat him one-on-one. in the television era, there are two things true of the general election. he will be taller in november. he's going to be. and the person who comes across more likable. in public, who is more likable? to me, the election is going to come down to this, can hillary clinton and her supporters convince the country that he's a dark heart, for all of his engagement in the public personna, he's not a nice person. he's not a person you want to spend four years with. because why did hillary clinton say she went to donald trump's wedding? he's fun to be around. he's fun to be around. she's fun to be around in

private but not in public. >> what is donald trump like? i actually say, like hillary clinton, he's fun to be around, he's a very nice, giving guy personally. he's got to work on that coming across more. >> why did bush beat gore? >> exactly. anybody that's been around hillary, i've said it a million times, if you have been around her personality, she's really likable. she's down to earth. i mean, bob costa, we're talking about likability. we have said it for some time, it's a real challenge for hillary clinton. can she do what her husband did and not put on that political helmet and be a different person on tv that she is off tv? >> one thing i've learned covering trump is that it's not just the pure charm he has when he's in the rooms, whether it's private or public at a rally, is that he has a political antenna. he comes into a private room or a big rally and he immediately adjusts. i've seen him change, it's not necessarily a chameleon, but he adjusted and calibrates his tone

constantly based on what he thinks the room wants to hear or what he needs to stay say to win. >> also, what is trump like in person? he's a guy to go to every book party, he went to book parties five to six years ago. is he bragadocious? no. he will say, this guy just wrote the best book i've read. he goes in, the political antenna goes up and he knows how to make people in the room feel great. that is -- that's the key. >> call him more likable. >> we shall see. ben ginsberg, thank you. ron fournier and bob costa, always, thank you. boy, ron, congrats on your book, man. it is incredible. >> thank you. >> it really is. stay with us, still ahead on this extended edition of "morning joe," what donald trump told us this morning about finding a running mate. we'll be right back with that.

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earlier you were talking about vice presidential candidates, who are the names you're thinking of? >> i think that i will say that i will probably go the political route. i have the business, let's call them talents, and i think i will probably go the political route, somebody to help me with legislation and somebody to help me get things passed and somebody friends with the senators and congressmen so we don't have to go the executive order route as much as obama did where he can't get anything approved, so he keeps signing

executive orders. but more than likely i would go the political route. >> jon meacham, name a time that a vice president mattered? because everybody is going to start looking at vice presidents, when did the vice president really matter? >> oh, i think johnson really delivered texas for kennedy. i think that is probably the last time it was serious. in a serious way. i think the clinton/gore reset was important. i think that was clearly an intriguing moment. consequential was bush/cheney for governance but less so for the campaign. >> my question is for a personality like donald trump, the last two presidents we have seen -- >> don't point at me when you say that. >> the last two vice presidents we have had are people who don't necessarily seem to have obvious aspirations to the job and allowed them to build relationships with the man in the oval office in a way that people who were very transparentally trying to become president didn't necessarily. i'm curious what kind of person donald trump would want in that

role? >> i think that's absolutely critical. anybody that's going to work with donald trump cannot be looking at the white house ahead. i still say, bob gates would be an extraordinary pick. >> best two picks he could get would be bob gates or the governor, former governor of indiana, mitch daniels. either of those two guys would fundamentally change the race. >> any advice for donald trump on his vice presidential pick? >> he has a tight inner circle, who is he going to find that is going to be like that? >> what about condoleezza rice? >> i don't think she'll do it. i think christie is the favorite. >> what does he deliver? >> a brawler to take on the clintons. they have to make her as unacceptable as trump. christie is the best brawler in politics. >> he may not have had great results in new hampshire but we saw him going across the state. he was a pretty great

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what she has to do. i think that was a great moment for her going there and saying -- it's like ron fournier says they run scared, that's her sending a message out to white working class voters, i'm not taking you for granted. i'm going to come here even if you're not going to vote for me. >> not just the geography but the issue going into coal country and trying to talk to those people, they are going to do more of that. >> it was the authenticity about it, it seems. >> there really was. >> i think they have to focus on that as they try to run against donald trump. >> i think hillary, when you talk about electability, when she's authentic, she's really good. all right. bernie sanders also pulling out another win in indiana. what does it mean? we'll tell you straight ahead on "morning joe." sometimes... ...maybe too hard. get claim rateguard® from allstate.

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i sense a great deal of momentum. i sense some great victories coming. and i think that while the path is now, and i do not deny that for a moment, i think we can pull off one of the great political upsets in the history of the united states. i have no doubt, zero doubt, that what we have done in this campaign, what we are doing now and what we will do in the next six weeks is good for the democratic party and it will result in a higher voter turnout. >> bernie sanders vowing last night to fight on. now with us correspondent for "time" magazine, jane lewis small. and chris jansing is with the sanders campaign. a clear message yesterday for the clinton campaign, it's not over. >> reporter: it isn't over. it's not going to be over. just within the commercial break, joe, they sent out another fund-raising e-mail saying, you know, maybe it's over for the insiders and the

party establishment, but the voters in indiana have a different idea. and he made it clear last night in this sort of hastily arranged news conference they are moving forward. obviously, they have a bunch of states coming up that favor them in the west. they are organizing heavily in california. and one or two things that last night's victory will do. one, it helps to change the conversation and eases off the pressure for him to get out and helps the fund-raising. and they got a bit of good news from the exit polls last night. when you look at whether or not democrats here think that this has helped or hurt the party, almost three-quarters say they think it's actually energizing the democratic party having this fierce competition between bernie sanders and hillary clinton. on the downside, there's another exit poll about who would be stronger against donald trump, which shows a clear win for hillary. that has been one of his major arguments, that he is the one that has been shown in national polls to be stronger in these

hypothetical head-to-head match-ups. we'll see what happens now that we see donald trump as presumably the presumptive nominee. but look, here's the argument his campaign is making this morning, when you get to this point in a campaign, you should have a coalescing, they say. you should have people who are now all fired up about hillary, excited about having her as the candidate. they say that's not happening. he's had 1.1 million people at his rallies. even last month when his fund-raising was down by 40%, he had a million individual donations. those are the kinds of numbers, joe, that will keep him moving forward. >> all right, chris jansing, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. for the clintons, they have to be thinking, how do we get this guy off? he's like velcro and keeps coming back. we keep announcing that and he just don't go anywhere. >> to be fair, clinton was the same way in 2008 with barack obama. you remember it was exactly at this time in the campaign she was doing shots of crown royale

in indiana to kick it back, dogging barack obama all the way through june. so, you know, turn around is fair play. bernie sanders is doing the same thing to her. and it's helping energize the base. but it is hard because now she has to fight a dual-front battle between both donald trump who is now the presumptive nominee for the republicans and bernie sanders. >> who would have thought the republicans would have gotten together before the democrats? >> it's amazing. >> you covered him for a long time, what do you think he wants at this point if he can't be the nominee? what is on his to-do list to get? >> he seems to be bouncing around on this, we heard him a week or so start to put out the statements saying, okay, we want to influence the party platform at the convention. then he switched back saying, oh, no, actually what i really want is to be the nominee. i do think they want to impact what the democrats say they stand for. it's not clear to me what kind of role bernie sanders himself

would be asking hillary clinton for that the point, i don't think running mate is on the list, but clearly he will want something, whether that is support for a group that he organizes going forward. and i think, too, the money in politics is the most important to bernie sanders. and i think it's also what we have learned is potentially the most potent in this campaign. so it seems to me the clinton folks would be wise to listen to him on that. >> so what does bernie want at the convention? what is he going to fight for? how do the clintons get him to it? >> i hear from bernie's world they want floor votes on a bunch of issues for the platform. so whether it is a $15 minimum wage, which only hillary clinton supports a $12 federal minimum wage. or whether it is trade deals in all the different areas where they feel they have turned clinton much more to the left. they want to cement the progress, big votes on it, very public on the floor of the convention. >> isn't it likely beer kn lly

win those votes? >> yes, they would force her move even further to the left. >> which, of course, she wants to avoid at all costs, right? >> exactly. >> it's amazing. all right. "time" magazine's jane newton mn this very significant morning. the presidential race. we're all still kind of in shock. >> you look like you're in shock. trolling for a gig with braindrone? can't blame you. it's a drone you control with your brain, which controls your thumbs, which control this joystick. no, i'm actually over at the ge booth. we're creating the operating system for industry. it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone

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watched events in the history of television with the exception of popular chinese soap appeoperas everybody will have a opinion about trump or clinton. everybody. >> they'll be the most watched in history. what are you looking for now? >> this will be an amazing year to watch donald trump. one of the things donald trump, he says he will unify the party but i don't know if ted cruz likes me. the idea to ask that question, he is uncapable of understanding how he insulted ted cruz. he made so many people angry at him. >> i do think there is a learning curve. for donald trump it is all about the fight. donald trump can call you something on a monday and on a tuesday, and by the way, we've been side ways quite a few times. he has no memory. >> i have to say, bill clinton once told me the greatest

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the take over is complete with his emphatic indiana triumph. >> i started, as you know, not very long ago, about six weeks ago, and i was told i had a 20 point deficit, and i went there and i worked very hard. we had a tremendous victory today. it was a tremendous victory. >> ted cruz drops out last night. trump seals the deal and now the battle for the general election is under way just like that. but also on at agenda this morning, is there a path? >> we're going after hillary clinton. she will not be a great president. she will not be a good president. she will be a poor president. she doesn't understand trade. >> the numbers say that trump is a big underdog against hillary clinton. the democrats say he is dead on arrival. what would it actually take for donald trump to win in november? we'll fire up the big board