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>> appreciate it. >> chris hayes is up next. are you with him or against him? let's play hardball. >> good evening. i'm chris matthews up in new york. not ready for trump. that's the word from paul ryan said this afternoon donald trump needs to change his cadence. that's his word. cut out the bullying and reassure conservatives he shares their principles. >> to be perfectly candid with you, i'm not ready to do that at this point. i'm not there right now. i hope too. i want to. i think what is required is that we unify this party. i think the bulk of the burden
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on unifying the party will have to come from our presumptive nominee. what a lot of republicans want to see is we have a standard bearer that bears our standards and unifies all the wings of the republican party. it's time to go from tapping into anger to channelling that anger into solutions. >> this evening donald trump responded to that. he said i'm not ready o support speaker ryan's agenda. perhaps in the future we can work together and come to an grem about what is best for the american people. also michael steele, the former
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chair who is an msnbc political analyst. what is happening tonight? do we have a sense of news tonight? >> absolutely. >> the crowd is fired up. they are ready to hear donald trump. remember, this is his first rally since becoming the presumptive nominee. it's interesting because the gop leadership is backing away from him. they're not ready to embrace him. donald trump, expect him to come out and talk about that. the speakers that are out here before him have already mentioned it to resounding boos from this crowd. i expect we'll hear more about it. certainly going to hear a lot of attacks on hillary clinton. >> seems not like only will west virginia vote next week, that makes sense to be there, but i sense this is the beginning of his appalachian campaign.
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western pennsylvania, ohio, kentucky. he knows that where his strength might be beyond the usual republican vote. >> absolutely. if you look at the electoral vote, he's got to convert rust belt states that have been blue. places like ohio, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and turn them into red states. he's got to do well in that white, working class demographic that so far he's run away with in the primary pps places like arizona with a high number of latino voters, those could turn red to blue. donald trump has his work cut out for him trying to find way to appeal to a general electorate audience. so far it's been focused on are republican base.
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>> ryan said get rid of your bullying, and trump said stop telling me what to do. >> they keep saying he's a counter puncher. you saw paul ryan throw the first punch in this argument between whether he's going to endorse him or not. trying to convince donald trump to tone down his rhetoric and unify the party and make amends and move a bit away from those extreme positions. donald trump refusing that and says he doesn't endorse speaker ryan's agenda which is basically the republican agenda. it's a remarkable thing to have happen just hours after donald trump becomes the resumptive
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nominee. the past two republican presidents, both presidents bush, are not going to be endorsing him and mitt romney, the past party nominee isn't going to the convention. >> that's great. hang in there. we'll be back to you. he said i'm not begging for republicans to join me. i'll decide who i want to go with me. he's saying we'll see but right now we're on separate courses. explain what he's up to. >> what a moment. a stunning rebuke from the house speaker. a temper divide. it's underscores what's happening in this republican party. trump is a populist on trade. the other head of the party who counters him right now in stature wants to cut social
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security and medicare. it's a total polar opposite of trump in style and substance. >> let me bring in michael steele. it seems to me in terms of party, trump is saying i'm the party now. join me. you're the problem. not the solution. >> there's a bit of truth in that. in fact, from the trump supporters point of view, if the ryan agenda, such as it is, the boehner agenda, such as it was, was the agenda for the party, how come you couldn't get it done. how come you couldn't get it passed. you couldn't even stop health care. you couldn't give us a supreme court that could stop health care. that's the crux of the argument. all those people sitting behind katie, that's the new reality of the gop. what you're seeing is an ideological as well as a personal divide about who this
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party is and what it is. donald trump is saying it's mine now. >> the past 24 hours, many republicans have agreed to back trump. mitch mcconnell said i've committed to supporting the nominee chosen by republican voters and donald trump, the presumptive nominee is on the verge of clenching that. paul labrador said he would support trump but also criticized him for not knowing much about the constitution or politics. haley barbour said life is a series of choices when the choice is between hillary clinton and donald trump, i'm going with donald trump. a spokeswoman for senator kelly ayotte says she plans to support the nominee, but she isn't planning to endorse him. senator john mccain explained why he is backing trump. >> i support the nominee of the
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party. i've repeatedly said the things i don't agree with him on. i love campaigning. i love being here. i'm a proud republican. i'm a ronald reagan, teddy roosevelt republican. i support the republican party and the people the republicans have chosen the nominee for the party. i think that makes sense. i have significant differences with donald trump on a lot of national security issues. my job is to steer our party and the nation's policies in the direction to make america safe. that's my obligation. >> what's the pattern now? who's in and who's out? looks like mccain being a regular republican being in, i wonder whether it's the red hot conservatives who are still holding out led by cruz. >> it's the movement type. it's not the business republicans.
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they're getting in line. they think hillary clinton is the target. they think she can be beaten if there's a shift in the electorate. it's the movement guys and the people who come out of jack kemp school like paul ryan who are supply sideers. they don't see conservative principles coming out of his campaign. that makes them anxious. >> what do you think about trump becoming trumpist? >> i think it's nervous anticipation. they will be pulled in the direction of their base. they're going to be pulled in the direction, as you just noted, this rust belt region where we could have an opportunity to win. grass roots know that. they like the message. it resonates across the aisle.
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you have to keep in mind these republicans on the ground are also talking to bernie sanders supporters who are trying to decide to vote for bernie or trump. they know where the potential opportunity lies and what they're looking for for the first time for the party leadership to get behind them instead of them having to get behind the party leadership. >> senator mccain is backing trump but privately he said it makes his own re-election as a senator more of a challenge. politico obtained audio where mccain speaks honestly about what it means to have trump leading the party. this is great to hear. it's inside stuff. mccain not knowing he's being taped. here he is. >> if it is donald trump in the top of the ticket, here in arizona, with over 30% of the vote being the hispanic vote, i have no doubt this may be the race of my life. people are angry. they're upset.
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they feel there's disconnect and all of that, and frankly, there's an element of nativism in it add well, as you know. the first wedge this donald trump had that gave him notoriety was build a wall, rapist, murder. the hispanic community is aroused and angry in way i haven't seen in 30 years. this will be a tough campaign for me. >> there's an honest assessment. >> they say, all we're trying to do at this moment is navigate. it's not about really for trump or against it.
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it's can you survive a year of up previously. can you have an isolated race where ever you're running and really define the race on your terms and not get it get nationalized. >> how do you offer on the menu, how do you say i'm a republican but i want to take a substitute. instead of mashed potatoes but i want french fries. i'm all with this guy trump. he's got a good spark. i like the enthusiasm, the nationalism but we can't be deciding what your religion is when you get to the airport and arrive in new york. we can't do that as americans. >> i think there's two things to that. one is if everything remains static as it is, that's a tough argument to make. you would see a lot of incumbent candidates, house and senate going out and saying exactly what you said. i understand what trump is saying but for the people in my district and state, this is where i am and how i would fight that.
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the other thing we need to keep in mind, we're looking at this rather statically. we need to look at how trump begins to develop as he gets closer to the convention and coming out of convention how he addresses those particular narratives with respect to what he said about hispanics and women and whether or not he does make some type of smooth edged pivot that allows candidates to come in a bit closer because the reality of it is, chris, they need each other. they need trump. they said unless you have a mind that you want to take the party out, you want hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. >> here we are on a great day for mexicans and those who come from mexico, the fifth of may, the great day of celebration, our fourth of july in mexico and the mexican people. here he's not changed a bit. he's still talking wall.
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he's still talking the mexican government pay for it. i've said no mexican government can last ten seconds to put up a wall to keep its people in. we're waiting to hear from donald trump. it will be great to see if he's any different. i don't think he will be. everybody is laughing. trump is trump. coming up, some big names in republican parties say no way, no how. they're just not supporting donald trump. chief among them, both former presidents bush and now mitt romney says he's skipping trump's convention in cleveland. some are really skipping out. should hillary clinton punch back against donald trump's attacks or will she hurt herself by responding to each of his jabs. the hardball will tell me three things about the general
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ready to endorse trump. it comes after both former presidents bush xli and xliii said they will stay out of race entirely. a spokesman for the elder bush said for the first time since his own presidency george herbert walker bush is planning to stay silent. the texas tribune reported that his son does not plan to participate in or comment on the presidential campaign. here is how trump reacted to that news today on cnbc. >> i was very harsh on some people like jeb bush and you wonder why the bush family wants to sit it out. i was harsh on his brother. his brother got us into the war in iraq which is one of the worst decisions in the history
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of our country. i said it loud and clear. when i hear they will sit it out, that's fine. i don't care if they sit it out. >> so interesting. this comes as mitt romney who has been an out spoken critic confirmed he will not attend the convention in cleveland. bob doyle tells nbc news that doyle will attend the convention but doesn't plan to make a formal endorsement at the moment. the only former republican nominee, nationally that say he will support trump in november is john mccain. she said she's open to voting for clinton over trump. governor whitman i've been a fan of your very independent, moderate politics, what's the chances you will change your find and vote for donald trump? is there any chance? >> nope.
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i won't vote for him. i will probably write in. >> what is it about trump that makes you say i can't do it? >> it's a host of thing. when you pull the curtain back, there's really no there there. he's taken four businesses through bankruptcy and left a lot of people, the little people hanging. he's going to bring jobs in from overseas yet he's been fine. it's unacceptable. >> you're finished with that no labels thing. you're back as a republican but not a republican. how would you define yourself
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politically in. >> i'm an eisenhower republican. you have to go back that far. >> what phone book do you meet in now? >> you know, you'd be amazed at how many people have been calling me. people that have been good republicans for a long time saying what are we going to do. >> a lot of people thought bill clinton's presidency was closer to eisenhower's presidency even though he was a democrat. are you a hold out? >> i will not vote for donald trump under any circumstances. >> your reasons? >> temperament and record. when you look at what he's going out and saying and doing and insulting his way to the presidency as the governor just mentioned, that's not what we want. >> why did it work? >> because there's a segment of the population that feels very
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neglected by washington. it's on the left with sanders supporters and on the right with trump supporters. i believe marco rubio would have done that if he had been more time to not respond to little marco insults and shared his economic agenda. he laid out the best answer any modern day president has laid out on race and how to improve race relations. >> i thought he was very good on immigration too. let me go to tom davis. tom, are you with these two guys? you're not going with trump and it's as simple as that? >> i'm not going to the convention. i've been a delegate at the last six. the dodgers are in town for a three-game series with the nets. that's where i'm putting my attention this summer. >> you're choosing baseball and the home team over your -- i'm being serious though.
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you were a member of congress all those years. i think of you as an unhyphenated republican. what's your reasons for not backing trump? >> i guess i'll confront this down the road in terms of what do we do with this. on trade and on some of these economic issues which i define myself as an economic conservative. he's not there. i put myself in the gettable category. he's not shown me the qualities you want to see in a president. >> it's fairly obvious he's not giving anything now. >> this is the way i dealt with him before as governor of new jersey.
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this is consistent. this is who he is. i understand the appeal to people who are so frustrated with a dysfunctional congress, what they see as a congress they believe has done nothing for them. it's not coming back in the way they hoped. they are still having to work two jobs. that's what appeals. that's where the trump and sanders appear comes from as the people who feel neglected. i worry about donald trump on international policy. he wants to have everybody guess. that's not how you deal with a world as ten you us as this one. he's not the person. he hasn't shown that ability. >> republican senator ben sass of nebraska called again for a third party candidate to oppose
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trump and clinton in november. quote, this letter is for the majority of americans who wonder why the nation that put man on the moon can't find a ledder that can take us forward together. this is america. if both choices stink, we reject them and go forward together. that's what we do. >> one of the options is hillary clinton. we've also got ben sass. he's made it clear he would not run for the presidency this cycle. >> he's a young guy. i think he's the model of the future type of republican we want. he says i'm a very conservative guy but i'm tolerant of other views. that's what's appealing to many of my liberal friends. who say, my goodness, this guy is a rational guy. >> where are you?
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>> i'm voting for clinton. >> where would you vote if you had to choose? steak or fish? where would you vote? >> i would write in john kasich. if enough people do it, who knows what could happen. how do we get here? >> trump has got to reach out. people aren't going to come to him when he's down in the polls. he's got an opportunity to reach out and consolidate some level
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of support within the party and move on and bring in other people. he doesn't appear to have those qualities at this point as long as he keeps bullying thinking people needs him. he looks like a loser now and candidates are running away from him. >> he's got to consolidate the base at this point. >> i'm a republican. >> i'm just asking. >> i have a very high regard for tim cane. i think that ticket would be very strong in virginia. >> you would vote for trump over cane and hillary? >> i'm not there yet. i'm still focused on -- i'm waiting for trump to give me a reason to vote for him. sheems to be going the other way. >> it's important to run a third party candidate even fp they are accused of costing trump the
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white house. this is serious business. let's watch. >> what does a 25-year-old or 30-year-old thinking about conservativism is their main concern is watching donald trump be donald trump. that's why i think it's important for someone to run. it's important that trump not be the face of american conservati conservativism. >> ralph nader has been blamed for loss of florida in 2000. are you with a third party candidate. >> if a viable option emerges. >> do you back a third party if it meant the defeat of the republican ticket for sure? >> yes, credible candidate. if it was a john kasich or marco rubio, i've always liked that ticket.
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>> it would be the end of the republican party. >> i don't think it's the end. i think it would be a reposition, which it clearly needs to do. >> would you vote for a third party ticket that brought down the republican ticket? >> it may go down on its own. you may need a third party to prop up your house and senate candidates. remember, chris, i had to run with oliver north at the top of the ticket in 1994. he got 29% of the vote but we had a third party candidate allowed me to run 25 points ahead of him. it could be helpful too. >> so important. you can help your party hold the senate and the house if you had two alternatives. we'll have donald trump. thank you, everybody. here he is. the presumptive nominee for
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president of the united states of the republican party is here. he's taking the podium. this is going to be interesting because west virginia is coal country. it's gun country. i say that positively. if he's to win the general election, he has to grab these people and hold them strong against hillary clinton in the general. they're conservatives. they care about coal and guns. they're not interested in the modern thing going on in this country. it's an interesting state with a lot of spirit. >> oh, boy, oh boy.
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beautiful, west virginia. this is beautiful. thank you very much. i actually wish the primaries were not over. it's no fun this way. i want the primaries to keep going. everybody's out. i'm the only one left. that's okay, right? right? [ cheers and applause ] it ended two days ago. we kept going, one, two, three, four.
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one afteranother. we had great time. i've never done this stuff before. am i doing a good job? doing a good job? i'll tell you what, you heard me the other night, i wasn't thinking about you. i'm thinking about the miners all over this country. we're going to put the miners back to work. we're going to put the miners back to work. we're going to get those mines open. how about hillary clinton, i'm going to put the miners back to work. she said, i'm going to put the miners and the mines out of business. then she comes over and she tried to explain her statement. that's a tough one to explain, wouldn't you say? one of the miners was not happy
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with her. he wasn't exactly happy. who is a miner in this group. i'll it will you what, folks, you're amazing people. we're going to take care of a lot of years of horrible abuse. we're going to take -- you can count on it. you can count on it 100%. 100%. you knew that because i just had a poll, it's irrelevant now, but i was like, i think it washe highest poll i've ever had. i wasn't going to come today. they said you don't have to come because the contest is over and you're the nominee of the republican party.
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congratulations. they said you're the nominee. you don't have to come to west virginia. i said do they know i'm coming? yes. how many tickets have you sold? we have 32,000 but the arena holds about 15,000. i said does that mean the place is going to be packed? yes. does that mean people are standing outside right now next to loud speakers? you got as many as you ever in here, you have more outside. i said, imagine. we love the people outside, but your location is better. do we agree? i said you have like 15,000 people in here and thousands outside. we're going to notify the people of west virginia that i'm not coming because i don't have to come. i've won all your delegates.
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i don't have to do anything. there's no way i don't go do west virginia. we're going to have fun. okay. we're going to have fun. [ cheers and applause ] there's always been something about west virginia. i've always been fascinated by the mines. i love construction. i love the whole thing. i can tell you more about caterpillar tractors than the people that work there. i love that business. i love construction. i've always been fascinate bid the miners and they love what they do. i was talking to some of the people and i said why don't they move? why don't they go someplace else? in this country you can't go
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anywhere else because you can't get a job. we're sending our jobs to mexico. china's taking your jobs. that's all going to change rapidly. i promise. the miners don't want to leave. you want to open the mines. we'll open the mine. i see over here trump digs coal. look at that. trump digs coal. that's true. that's true. i do. it's incredible the engineering and all of it is getting safe and as it gets safe, they're taking it away from you in a different way.
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you're going to be so proud of your president. you're going to be so proud of your country. you watch. the other night, we had a big night. we won indiana. i had so much help. bobby knight. we had the great coach from perdue. we had a lot of people. bobby went and he called me like a year ago. before i really made up my mind i get call from bobby knight. he's tough, smart and knows how
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to win. that's a good combination. that's what the country needs. he calls me up and i recognize his voice immediately. he said i hope you run. i said run for what? i hope you run, mr. trump. you run for president, you are going to make this country great again. i've been following. he is. he's an expert on talent. he's talent. i'd love your number and let me call you back if i decide to run. he said you have my support, call me back. a lot of time goes by. i'm winning and doing great. you've been hearing me say it's a rigged system.
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now i don't say it anymore because i won. now i don't care. i don't care. you got to knock them out then you can't worry about the judges. i tell that story. you knock them out and you don't have to worry about the judges. i won by so much. what happened with bobby is a friend of mine from indiana, i said who would be a good endorsement. this was so long ago that bobby called. he said well bobby knight would be the greatest endorsement you could get. i doubt you could get bobby knight. i said i think i can. i'm sitting at my desk and there it is. bobby knight. i call him up and he picks up the phone.
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we're just about ready to go to indiana and he goes, i've been waiting for you to call. i said that's right. you going to endorse me. he said i'll endorse you. i'll see you next week. >> that's donald trump in charleston, west virginia. opposing her already on coal, coal mining. saying she wants to take the coal miners and put them out of work. his first rally we're seeing as the presumptive nominee. clinton, by the way, says she can take the heat from her likely republican rival in the upcoming election. she said she can take anything
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he's willing to throw at her. here goes. >> he's made references your marriage, to your husband. >> he's not the first one, anderson. i can't say this often enough. if he wants to go back to the play book of the 1990s, if he wants to follow in the footsteps of those who have tried to knock me down and take me out of political arena, i'm more than happy to have him do that. >> you're ready for that? >> oh, please. this is to me, a classic case of a blustering, bullying guy who has knocked out of the way all the republicans becausefounddumb they didn't know how to counterpunch. >> she's thought this through but is she ready for the counterpunch herself. top operatives have studied closely the various strategies deployed by the republicans who were fell by trump.
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clinton press secretary said she will not be passive like we saw from so many of the republicans he vanquished but she will also not follow him into the guster. she can challenge him in the way the republicans wouldn't on the issue and on his hateful rhetoric. i'm joined by the hardball round table. this is great to have you on. let's talk about hillary clinton and the challenges. we talk about the challenges running against a woman. let's talk about the nominee of a party against a guy who she considers a bully. how do you bring down a bully?
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>> i mean, she's married to a bully. excuse me. she's married to a guy who cheated on her, did everything on her and she was passive about it. seriously. she's not, i'm tired of this you go girl thing. she's a victimized wife and her number two was a victimized wife. i don't know how she's going to deal with a bully since she didn't deal with her husband properly. >> looks like she's ready to take him on. also go after his bad behavior in terms of rhetoric. she's going to challenge him on his bad form as candidate. >> i think she's definitely already starting to get her staff ready and get her messaging ready for donald trump. she released that digital ad where she was showing the republicans denouncing him and saying the terrible things they had to say about him. i don't think she will be passive at all. you cannot sit and wait for him to punch you.
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you have to punch him first. i think you can see in that interview she will say you want to go with me, you want to go back to '99, to those dirty things that -- she's ready for that. she's going to be ready. >> i think that you can't be outraged about a bully. you can't be, oh, my god, i can't believe he's being so crazy. the only way to deal with him is light mockery and not taking him too seriously. >> when did it work? >> it's worked a little bit when candidates like hillary clinton has gently dismissed him. >> the president has put him down a lot. >> it doesn't really work in taking the gas out of his tank. >> follow the lbj rule against goldwater which is make a list of the republicans attack and repeat them. make goldwater the odd man out.
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>> nobody was prepared for what he's done and nobody's prepared for what he will do. they're playing football. he's playing soccer. it's a totally different game. nobody -- >> what's more sophisticated? i thought american football was more sophisticated. >> that's why i said soccer. nobody knows how to deal with him. he went after the people that nobody ever wanted even to be near. the bigots, the xenophobes. >> where are you? are you for them or against them? >> i'm saying what he did that's so brilliant. that's what he did. he brought into the tent people that nobody wants to associate with. >> i wouldn't say it so positively. he reminds me of a guy playing hearts. it's like nobody has ever done this before.
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who wants those people in his tent. >> he's not going to be polite. he will say things that no one will say. she has to figure out how she will respond in kind, which she probably won't or try to cruise along and be more conventionally qualified. >> here is the question. the numbers are with hillary clinton. she's up by 13 in the latest polling. if you take the minorities that will vote against her. she stays well above 50% unless she makes a mistake. it is hers to lose. >> the numbers say it's hers to lose. if you think about the fact she's fighting off bernie sanders and we're in may. >> are you with sanders? >> i'm sanders campaign reporter. in that way i'm watching him kind of do the things. >> she's fighting a two-front war. >> also in michigan where standers had the huge win, he's still far behind her. what she should learn is the numbers don't mean you're going
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to win. she should not and i don't think she will be resting on laurels say i have a double digit lead. he got to beat out 16 people. 16 governors. these are smart people that he somehow out smarted and became this nominee. i think she's looking at this not saying he's a baffoon and taking him seriously. >> i still haven't figured you out. up next, these three will tell me something i don't know about the general election coming. this is hardball, the place for politics.
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bernie sanders needs overwhelming victoies over hillary clinton in upcoming states. a new poll in new jersey shows the garden state is looking like an uphill battle for bernie. let's check the scoreboard. new jersey democrats, hillary clinton holds a 28-point lead right now. amazing the parts of the country where the clintons are strong. it's clinton at 60%, bernie sanders at 32%. you can never get enough of it. change the way you experience tv with xfinity x1.
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tell me something i don't know. >> campaign finance. if you want, if donald trump wants to match the mitt romney rate of fund-raising for 2012 he has to raise $245 million just for the republican national committee between now and november. if he wants to match him for candidate money it would be $378 million more. >> has donald trump ever had to fund-raise? >> never once. >> it's hard to raise money if you're a rockefeller or a trump, i would guess. >> trump cheats at golf. >> are you sure? >> a friend told me he was at a tournament and that there was a big athlete and the athlete won the tournament. donald didn't play that day. when he went to get the trophy they said, donald trump is the winner. he said, but he didn't play. they said, he played yesterday and he beat you.
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>> linda stacy says donald trump cheats at golf. >> bernie sanders, even though there are states voting like kentucky, west virginia, he's already turning to the west and already going to california and planning trips to oregon, montana, the decoat tats. >> who's going to win california, bernie or hillary? >> i can't say, i'm a candidate reporter. >> i think it's going to be a pick. i think bernie's going for it. thank you. it's the cherry on top of the sundae for him. thank you all fare joining us. when we return let me finish with a shakes peerian choice facing republicans. to be -- a republican or not to be. you're watching "hardball."
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you see it there, donald trump broke another rule of politics. he put on a coal miner's helmet. politicians are not supposed to put hats on in hol politics. donald trump should have learned from dukakis. a big republican question, to be a not to be? should you be a republican in this presidential year or not be? if you choose to be a republican this year you have to link yourself to the candidacy of donald trump. what else does it mean to be a member of the political party if not to back that party's candidate for president? if you choose to bolt the party or sit it out, or endorse a
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third-party candidate, or more radfully still backing hillary, you mark yourself as personally and politically accountable for trump's defeat in november. as president obama put it at last saturday's white house correspondents' dinner, it's steak or fish. either you're helping the guy or you're helping to beat the guy, steak or fish. quite a predicament for republicans. you've got to make a big decision and make it soon. stick with the party's presidential nominee, or stick it to donald trump personally. from now to the convention it's going to be open season for this choice. one thing is certain, the certitude of intention. if you refuse to back the party nominee, donald trump, to the best of your ability, you will be accorded nothing, the party willow you nothing, trump willow you nothing, if he win without you you will be as dead as far as either is concerned. if you stick with the party and trump, one benefit will be a reputation for party loyalty.
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we'll see between now and july how much this claim will count of party loyalty. that's "hardball" for now junior "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> i pretty much have some conservatives other than some people who want to get publicity for themselves. >> the presumptive nominee gets no presumptive support from the republican speaker of the house. >> i'm just not ready to do that at this point. i'm not there right now did. >> tonight the growing number of top republicans who still aren't quite ready for trump. plus why donald trump is rewriting the art of the pivot. your first all-in guide to the 2016 electoral map. from vaccines to birth certificates to "the national enquirer." >> what was he doing with lee harvey oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting? >> the compelling case that the only thing trump believes is the last conspiracy theory he read.