ryan later this week. will trump charm or even agree with the top republican's requirements? the billionaire businessman played nice, though, on "meet the press." >> if he can't endorse you, do you think he should be chair of the convention? >> i don't want to mention now. i'll see after. i will give you a very solid answer if that happens about one minute after that happens. okay? >> fair. >> there's no reason to give it right now. >> it sounds like i know what the answer is, but you don't want to say it yet. you don't want to sound -- you don't want to issue threats. you're not going to issue a public threat? >> i don't think that's going to happen. you know, the party's come together. i have tremendous numbers of endorsements. and this weekend renewed attacks launched by trump against the clintons over the sex scandals of the 1990s. it's old news to some and a valid attack to others. at stake there, female voters. something trump needs help with. and let's not forget bernie sanders. the vermont senator sticks with it. the only candidate on the stump in mother's day as hillary

clinton opens up about the sanders campaign and what his supporters will mean to her as she marches toward november. on cbs's face the nation, this is what she had to say about her two opponents. >> i have 3 million more votes than senator sanders and 2 million more votes than donald trump. so clearly there is a constituency for a candidate who says, look, we don't just diagnose the problem. we offer solutions for the problem. >> let's go straight to kristen welker in washington for us. kristen, much has been said about how sanders' commitment here to stay on the trail hurts hillary clinton. but might it help by solidifying youth registrants, the voters for the democrats that will carry forward because they're there because so far at least, sanders is in the race? >> hi, richard. well, good afternoon. there's no doubt that that is a pocket. senator sanders is bringing new, younger voters into the fold, signing them up, bringing them

into the process. the real question right now is what happens if and when secretary clinton does win the nomination. you have the clinton campaign essentially very insistent that senator sanders should stay in this race for as long as he wants to be in this race. at the same time, they are urging him to stale back his attacks and also calling on him to help rally the party once this fight is over and rally those younger voters. secretary clinton pointing to what she did back in 2008. take a listen. >> i do think it's a useful reminder that i was much closer to then senator obama. we were neck and neck in the popular vote. his lead over me in the pledged delegate numbers was much, much smaller. as i say, i'm 3 million votes ahead of senator sanders, nearly 300 pledged delegates ahead of him. he has to make his own mind up. >> the challenge for secretary clinton right now is that she's really fighting on two fronts.

you see her pivoting to the general election and donald trump, increasingly taking aim at him on the trail. but at the same time, she's still very much locked in this primary fight, and a number of top democrats say it's important that she finishes strong heading into the convention. but the problem becomes how does she allocate her resources and her time, and that's one of the things that the clinton campaign is struggling with right now. richard. >> kristen, there's been much said at least from the trump campaign about how she, hillary clinton, enabled that which happened in the 1990s with her husband at that time and now today, the former president. has she reacted at all to this? >> she's basically brushed it aside, and she said, hey, if you want to bring up what happened in the '90s, go ahead, we've already fought those battles. that's the tactic she is taking, and she continues to draw sharp distinctions with donald trump on policy issues and to raise some of the controversial comments that he has made. at the same time, i think, richard, moving forward you can expect some of her surrogates to

push back more forcefully on a point-by-point basis. but the clinton campaign has said they're just not going to get down into the mud. those are their words -- with donald trump. they think it behooves them to instead brush aside those very personal attacks and instead stay on policy. that's where secretary clinton is a lot more comfortable. richard. >> kristen, thank you so much. let's turn now to the presumptive gop nominee, donald trump, who has started to gain support from the republican establishment. speaker of the house paul ryan on "meet the press" had this to say. >> i'm never stunned by anything that happened in politics, so i'm not -- yeah, i was blindsided a little bit because he spoke to me three weeks ago and it was a very nice call, very encouraging call. don't know him well. met him one time. all of a sudden, he gets on and he does this number. so i'm normal exactly sure what he has in mind, but that's okay. >> joining us now, nbc correspondent katy tur, and it's great to have you in studio here, katy. >> absolutely.

>> what are the odds here? might they go sim pat co-when they do meet and he walks away with an endorsement. >> i think they are very good. we have a long time until we get to the convention and speaker ryan is going to be taking that time, using his leverage to try and get donald trump to act for like a traditional politician. there is certainly a chance that they won't get there, but i think given the amount of time we have until july and until the convention, i can expect to see that, especially if they don't want to put themselves in a position to lose to hillary clinton in november. a divided party like this, the words of abraham lincoln, just cannot stand. and in the past, they have not gone on when the party's been this divided, gone on to win the presidency. >> speaker ryan wants to get his conservative platform through here. does he need donald trump more than donald trump needs him? >> you know, i think it's a really good question. i think donald trump has really made it very clear how divided the republican party is, and

specifically how divided washington is. >> right. >> republicans in washington from their base of voters out in america. and donald trump is captivating them, and he's speaking directly to them. and i think in that way he doesn't necessarily need the party. he doesn't necessarily need them to get behind him because he has all the voters. the way he needs the party is for fund-raising and for the infrastructure they have in place to run a campaign and to get him elevated to a position where he can be seen as a viable presidential candidate maybe to those who are on the fence. then again, paul ryan needs him a lot too because without donald trump and all the voters behind him, where do they stand come the fall? >> i mean you put a line underneath that big number, $1 billion that donald trump will probably need as he moves forward into the general. another thing that just happened or was said over the last 24 hours, and that was donald trump, there seems to be a bit of a change in his view on taxes. let's listen to that really

quickly. >> the thing i'm going to do is make sure the middle class gets good taxes -- tax breaks because they have been absolutely shunned. the other thing i'm going to find very hard for business. for the wealthy, i think frankly it's going to go up. and you know what? it really should go up. >> so, katy, is that a change? because from previous statements and things he's put out? >> it is a change, but he has been saying this now for a couple weeks. he said it on the "today" show. he said it to cnbc, to "meet the press," he's been saying this. i think this is not to be unexpected, but it does show you that all of donald trump's positions, are they set in stone, or are they flexible? most candidates move towards the center come the general election once they've secured the nomination. but when it comes to donald trump, you have to wonder just what he will stand by when he starts really running the general in earnest. i would point to donald trump himself and his book, "the art of the deal."

he always says take an extreme position and negotiate towards the middle in order to get to where you want. and you could see the primary and his extreme position, and now he's going to start negotiating with the american public. >> he's following his very own playbook is what you're saying. let's bring in adolfo franco. foreign policy adviser. and j. newton small. you heard what katy is reporting here. what do you make here, jay, of this statement today on "meet the press" as well as other sundays, what is a change according to what katy as been watching in his stance towards taxes? >> it's actually really interesting in terms of him speaking with paul ryan ahead of this week. paul ryan, this is not a stance that paul ryan would enjoy frankly, and i think it almost goads him a little bit into saying we're going to clearly have differences and we're never going to agree policy-wise. but in listening to what katy was just saying, speaker ryan and donald trump have very similar positions when it comes to the art of the deal.

speaker ryan introduce the road map to america's future, which is this very extreme conservative document that is sort of the bible for tea partiers, but he often says he never expected that to get enacted into law. he just thought of it as a first offer, which is a very similar position to donald trump. so it will be interesting to see what happens when the few meet to face, can talk about their positions and see if they can come to some common ground for the sake of the party. >> adolfo, what does he gain or lose by this change? >> well, i think it's going to send really shock waves in the republican party because i think there's a realization and i think your reporting is accurate is that donald trump's positions are completely fluid, and that's the cancer. y -- concern. speak i have to tell you that in the case of donald trump, of course, that is not the case. we're all waiting for some contradictory statement at any moment, and i think that's going to be the challenge.

i think it's going to be a challenge for the speaker and really for other republicans to say getting behind someone who we really do not know what his true views are and what he's prepared to do is of great concern to many mainstream republicans. >> katy, what are you seeing on the campaign trail here? we saw donald trump doubling down. i mentioned it earlier when we were talking about kristen welker about enabling what had happened in the 1990s. he's pointing towards hillary clinton today, and how that has resonated with specifically just because we were bringing that up earlier, with voters who are women and how they're reacting to these donald trurum beats tho be pretty consistent. >> when we go on the campaign trail and we go to donald trump rallies, there are a lot of folks, including women, wearing hillary for president shirts and hats and pins, and even cruder shirts that you can't really repeat on television demeaning hillary clinton. this attack is something that resonates with his supporters regardless of whether they are

women or men. >> equally? >> equally, absolutely. and his campaigns are -- his rallies are filled with women. i think when he says that he wins the women's vote, he does sort of win the republic women's vote when it comes to those coming out to elect him. what the campaign is going to be trying to do in order to make the gap not so grand in the fall is they're going to try and target older, white women. those are the women that we often see on the campaign trail that are coming out with a lot of support for donald trump, and try to mitigate his losses. they realize they're going to have an issue there. they want to close that gap as much as they can. they don't expect to win the female vote come november. >> jay, in the mitt romney white women vote, which he did win, and katy is head-nodding here too, might he be able to bring them over in this election too, from 2012 to 2016 based on what he has been saying and doing in

the field? >> he very well could win white women. really the bigger spliet here between women traditional lip has been married wemz have unmarried. mitt romney won married women by 11 percentage points in 2012. but he lost single women by more than 30 points in 2012. that led him to lose women overall by double digits. so single women are the single largest voting bloc in america when they do turn out to vote and they're incredibly powerful when you can swing this them. but they're drop off voters. so it's hillary's job frankly in this election we'll see if she's able to do it, is to turn out that very powerful single women's voter bloc for her, which if she can win that, if she can persuade them to come out, will overcome any advantage donald trump might have with republican or married women. >> adolfo, it's not only getting women out to vote for her, it's almost getting them out to donate. you probably saw "the new york

times" piece that came out today. just some numbers from his reporting. he says 43% of all reported contributions to federal candidates for this election have come from women. he also says a fifth of all individual contributions to super pacs this election have come from women as well. what do you make of this data here as we look towards november? >> sure. well, i think it's going to be a daunting task for mr. trump, and i'll tell you why. first of all, i think his strategy is very clear, and that's going to be a very personal attack on the clintons, i should say, on both former president clinton and secretary clinton. i think that's been the mode us opp randy. we all know at these rallies, it's when he has personalized attacks. really there are only two positions that anyone can articulate consistently that donald trump has had. one is to build a wall on the border that mexico will pay for and to threaten a trade war with china. that's appealed to some people without jobs and with respect to women, i think there have been

so many disparaging comments that have been made of women that the only thing he hopefully will do is to incite some, i think, excitement if you want to call it that with people who in the last 18 or 19 years are now going to vote for the first time, who don't remember the 1990s well, to somehow say that she was an enabler and somehow their marriage is a sham, i think it's going to be that type of personal attack. whether that will succeed, with the general electorate i think is going to be a much, much taller order because his record on comments made even in this campaign to women reporters and others have been so damaging that i don't think just a few statements on planned parenthood can turn this around. >> related to that, it's not only criticism about his statements about women here, adolfo, it's also other statements he's made. >> minorities. >> certain groups, minorities. i'll play a little bit. you know pretty well here, john mccain voicing some concerns about a statement made about the hispanic vote earlier. take a listen.

>> would you want him to retract those statements? >> oh, i don't know. i think that it's important that we understand the importance of the hispanic vote in america. after the 2012 election, as you know, we laid out a blueprint, and part of it was outreach to the hispanic community. i think we all recognize that the republican party has to do that. >> and he does too? >> i assume so. >> adolfo, of course we had, you know, that posting earlier in the week on cinco de mayo of that taco bowl there. all of that coming together here. is this a group that he simply just is not going to get much traction on as we move towards november? >> i really can't imagine how. i know the latino community very well, of course, and the last go-around with, i think, some effort, but yet some -- and now pale in comparison, self-deportation, republicans gathered 27% of the latino vote. i think some numbers show him

way underwater, maybe 11 to 12% of the vote. i think the comments have been so strident, so hurtful, that beyond just the community frankly that are here on a non-documented basis, but just generally speaking his view toward all types of minority, look, we had to be honest on this program. he's appealing to a white nativism going back to a different time of the 1950s. there is a constituency for that, but in a general election, i don't see how he can possibly win, winning 10 or 11 or 12% of a now energized latino votes when we have not been able to win general elections with 27%. >> you've got to get it above the 30%? >> you do. >> thanks for stick ago round. jay, appreciate you being here. please do stick around, jay. you all have a great sunday. still to come, we turn our eye to the sky.

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welcome back. parts of kansas, oklahoma, nebraska and texas are bracing for severe weather today. all of this coming after a tornado left a path of destruction through a rural area of eastern colorado on saturday. officials say five people suffered minor injuries. the half-mile-wide twister also caused significant damage to properties and knocked down dozens of power lines. dry conditions continue to fuel

a massive wildfires that has ravaged 800 square miles of canadian province of alberta. nearly 90,000 people escaped the city of fort mac murray as flames spread, so large the growing wildfire could now soon reach a second province. the fire torched 1,600 homes and buildings in fort mac murray. >> all i thought is, dear lord, if you can get my children safe, then i don't care. like i was almost on my knees in the truck thinking am i going to get from north to south? >> nbc's miguel almaguer is just outside fort mcmurray, one of the hardest hit areas, with the latest. >> reporter: the conditions here are again turning unfavorable for firefighters. the wind really picking up here over the last couple of hours. we had some light rain earlier today. simply not even anywhere close to enough what firefighters need. as a matter of fact, they say they would need several days of heavy rain to help douse this

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became a cornerstone to the gay rights movement. president obama now expected to soon name the iconic bar as the first national monument to gay rights. police infamously raided the stonewall nearly 47 years ago and to bar goers there, they were fighting back, sparking violent protests in the streets of new york city. that clash ultimately became a turning point for gay rights in the u.s. it helped open the door for the eventual enaction of a number of anti-discrimination protections allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military and legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide. next month marks lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender prize month in the united states. joining me now, evan wolfson. evan, so this opportunity is a big deal. how big a deal is it? >> well, i think it's a very big deal because it's continuing president obama's recognition that gay people's struggle for

equality is part of a larger arc of america's struggle for freedom and equality and inclusion. it's part of the american journey to a more perfect union. it stakes struggle and time and time and work. this is a good thing for us to celebrate as americans and then get back to the work. >> you may have gone to the stonewall. for those not familiar with the stonewall inn, how did it change our history? the trajectory of the country since 1969? >> well, stonewall wasn't the first time that gay people fought back against police harassment and government discrimination. just as president obama was not the first person to be supportive of gay rights. but it was a turning point because it really -- it had legs. every year thereafter people around the world have been gathering in celebrations, in parades, and in determination to keep doing the work. it led to the acceleration of an organized and sustaining movement that became a mighty civil rights movement here in

the united states and that has lit a torch in other movements for the work that still remains in other parts of the country and in other parts of the world. >> what do you know about the process of this becoming a national monument? >> well, there are many, many steps. there are technicalities involving transfer of land, different department agencies have to weigh in. but having the president seal the commitment of the administration toward making it happen with the cooperation of new york state and governor cuomo means that it will likely go forward and become reality and be an important opportunity for people to remember our history and recommit to the work. >> evan, as you know, in 1969, this might have been seen as an unknown hole in the wall by many. it certainly is much different today. what does this becoming a monument mean for all of those small gay bars across the country that might be in small towns or big towns all throughout the united states? >> well, unlike many other minority groups, gay people are not born into our minority.

we're not born into families for the most part that look like us. we're not born into communities who understand us. we have to find our way to them. so social opportunities, bars and so on, played a very important role in the building of a gay community, a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community that allowed people to take their individual awareness of who they are, even if not supported by their own family, and come to find others and find a community that would welcome them. and now fortunately we're building a country that welcomes us as equal and true contributors to the larger american project. >> so this administration of eight years has had many milestones for the lgbtq community. this could be the final one. how do you think history will look back at this presidency and what he has done for equality? >> first of all, i hope it won't be the final one because there's a lot of work to be done. we still need legal protections

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well, now that donald trump is the presumptive republican nominee for president, some

republicans are reconsidering their party loyalties. news day columnist bill o'reilly penned an op-ed titled donald trump has destroyed the republican party i knew and loved. in it he writes, quote, i awoke wednesday morning realizing that i no longer fit comfortably in any national party. it makes me think a new one is coming. there are too many of me out there. bill o'reilly joins us right now. first off, why not stay, shape, fight, and build what's in the republican party right now? why jump ship? >> yeah, because donald trump is now the titular head of the party. as the nominee, he represents the party. he really is going to take over the structure of the party, and i just can't work under that umbrel umbrella. to me, richard, the minimum that the parties have for a presidential candidate is that he or she be responsible. at a minimum, responsible. and i just see donald trump as an irresponsible choice to put up for the white house. and so there's no get ago round that.

>> why not go along, bill? this is one election. you could get back to the space that you want to or closer to the space that you wanted to be at. >> i can certainly come back into the republican party if it will have me at some point when donald trump is not leading the ticket. and maybe i'll do that at some point. but with him there, it's the one little protest that i can make. i joined the conservative party here in new york, but it was -- >> why did you pick the conservative party in new york. >> i am a conservative, first of all. first of all, the libertarian party i thought about, which is a national party, and the libertarian party, my concerns are on foreign policy. you know, i'm not sure it's strong enough, but i thought about that. and gary johnson is a very good -- he was a two-time new mexico governor who will be running at the libertarian. he may be my choice at the end of the day. >> would you vote for hillary clinton come november? >> either gary jons ns or hillary clinton. at the end of the day, if i were the deciding vote, i would go for hillary or donald trump. i think that's the responsible choice. but i think gary johnson, if he begins to get polled, if he gets

15%, he'll get into the national debates and he could actually grow somewhat of a base. if it were just hillary and trump, i'd have to go with hillary clinton. >> as it is today, right? you were mentioning in your article a new party, new meaning it does not exist right now? because this is an existential question for many conservatives like yourself. >> it is, and i think something has happened in the country in the last maybe decade or so is that people have confused the angriest republicans with the most conservative, and they're two very different things. conservatives are not angry. conservatives are solution-minded. conservatives care about poor people. conservatives want to get the economy going again. we want to address the dit. we want a strong foreign policy. trump is all over the place. he's angry. he's populist. that doesn't make him a conservative. to me, it makes him irresponsible with the positions he's had. >> would you create a new party which is what i'm asking you specifically? >> that may have to happen. we'll see what happens. i got to say it's reassuring to see people of the status of a

paul ryan, the bush families, and others standing firm, and mitt romney standing firm. maybe still another third -- a third or fourth party candidate emerges. we'll have to see. >> you're going to be writing about it no doubt. i was reading "the wall street journal" this morning, and they were noting that there were some candidates that are in the republican party, they're invigorated by donald trump at the top of the ballot here. and they are banking on and they are glad that in their particular cities or districts, that he's sitting there because he has at least from what they're saying, the platform and the policy that they feel they can win votes over. >> i think that's absolutely right. for some districts, trump is going to be a benefit. i have candidates, i have clients that are running in districts that will be helped by donald trump. there's no question about it. you have voters that didn't, you know, typically come out that are coming out now, and he will help in some areas. in other areas, it will be devastating. it will be devastating against him. i think what trump does is i think he's going to write off the conservatives on the right that aren't going to be with

him, and i think he's going to pivot and go after bernie sanders voters. you see him talking about hillary clinton yesterday and describing her as a wall street pawn. he's beginning to adopt the language of bernie sanders. i think he's going to try to bring some of those voters in. >> one sentence before we go here. what's the one thing he could do to bring you back? >> lose and step aside. >> okay. that's pretty defif tnitivdefin. bill o'reilly, thank you. before hillary clinton can pivot too far towards those republican voters we've been talking about so far today, as she tries to do that as she's looking at the general election, there's a question of the sanders supporters and what must be done with them. joining me now to discuss that, msnbc, former pennsylvania governor, and former dnc chairman ed ran del and jay newton small still with us in this hour. thank you, jay for stirking around. >> governor, i want to start with you first. you heard what was said by bill o'reilly, and we're looking at a

situation where, you know, what's happening is secretary clinton doesn't even have to necessarily aim her attention at the republicans because she's getting folks like bill o'reilly that are jumping over because they just can't stand the current presumptive nominee. how significant might this defection be for her as she looks at the general? >> i think it will help a little bit, but make no mistake about it. also all of this feeds into the trump narrative. i'm running against the establishment, romney, bush, lindsey graham. they're part of the republican establishment that screwed things up in the country the last eight or ten years. o'reilly, media. the media is against me because they don't want someone independent like me. it almost feeds the narrative. it propels more excitement on the people who are angry. now, again, the people who are angry, i don't think are quite a big enough base for him to become president. he's got to expand it.

but i'm not sure this hurts him quite as much as people might think. >> when we look at what was discussed as i was introducing both of you here, that's hillary clinton being able to bring in bernie sanders voters and them coming together and the sanders campaign right now still out today, for instance, on the campaign trail. the only candidate that is doing that here today. jay, when we look at that inability for now, that two-front war, if you will, where hillary clinton is looking not only at trying to bring on bernie sanders but then also on the right, you've got donald trump that she's also engaging. how difficult will that be for her, and is she losing some of the momentum by having to deal with both of those fronts? >> well, i mean i think it is very difficult. i mean not insurmountable. this is a very normal problem when one party-picks a nominee and then the other party still sort of struggles on for the front-runner to still have to fight both fights. this is a pretty normal thing. i mean hillary clinton is helped

in the fact that she has her husband and a lot of other surrogates who can help fight that fight for her. so their strategy, the clintons' strategy has been for her to largely stay away from criticizing donald trump too much personally. she did a little bit this week, but generally speaking she doesn't really go after him head to head that much. and she leaves a lot of that criticism to her surrogates. i think that will stay the same. it's interesting that the clinton campaign has telegraphed to me that, you know, to look tomorrow. she's going to be speaking in virginia to young families and in kentucky to young families. she's going after those younger voters now and really trying to woo those bernie voters to say, young families, young people, you should vote for me. that's because a recent poll by harvard institute of politicians showed that in a head to head, hillary won the youth vote. they see that as a window of interrupt where she can bridge the gap between bernie supporters and herself as well as make inways in the general election. >> as much as we're talking

about it and what might be the negative parts of them not coming together right now, governor, hillary clinton this morning sounded upbeat when talking about sanders and his supporters and looking forward. let's listen to what she said. >> he has to make his own mind up. but i was very heartened to hear him say last week that he's going to work seven day s a wee to make sure donald trump does not become president. i want to unify the party. i see a great role and opportunity for him and his supporters to be part of that unified party, to move into not just november, to win the election against donald trump, but to then govern based on the progressive goals that he and i share. >> governor, does it make sense that bernie sanders does stay in to really take advantage of all of these new voters that might be engaging, registering, then later voting as opposed to him stepping down and suspending right now because then they'll never engage. she may not have those voters on her side come the general.

>> well, i think so. remember john mccain in 2008 clinched the republican nomination pretty early, and hillary clinton and barack obama battled all the way to the very last primary, which was south dakota. i think that actually helped in a way because it kept the energy up. it kept the vibrancy up, and although a lot of clinton voters after she withdrew said they'd never vote for obama, they formed a group called puma, and i don't think i can tell you what it stands for on the air. >> we won't do that. >> we won't do that. but by the time election day rolled around, 95%, 96% of the clinton voters vote fod for bar obama. and hillary clinton was important in getting that done. she went out on the campaign trail for senator obama. she nominated him at the convention. that's not going to happen. senator sanders is going to put his name in the nomination. there's going to be a roll call. he has every right to do that. and we clinton supporters should stop complaining about that. he has every right to do it. he's earned that right, and he's going to do that.

and then afterwards, he will, as he said, work seven days a week to make sure that donald trump doesn't become president. that's good enough for me. >> might be a net positive all said just because of the collective energy come the general of both of those names. got to leave it there. thank you so much. >> thanks, richard. >> have a good night. next, the push to win minority minorities. we'll take a look at the numbers needed to win and the specific group the candidates may need to start targeting if they want to take all come november. or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day.

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are these newly eligible voters registering? well, new research shows asian-americans and pacific islanders are registering in six key swing states at rates equal or greater to their population growth. the api victory fund found a bit of an anom li there. asian-americans and pacific islanders are registering at rates never seen before from mailers that are being send out. lating all groups at 5.3%. they normally don't register at these high rates. joining me now is fred yang, partner at the hart research group. fred, you know a little bit about numbers here, i hear. tell me, are these numbers of any note as we look at this one group, the aepi group which went for the democrat as you know in 2012 at, what, 73%? does this sound consistent with the way they're trending from what you've seen? >> it does. look, elections are about the present and the future. one future trend, richard, about the aapi vote is by 2040, their

numbers will have doubled where they are now. so this is a growing population even as we speak. in terms of 2016, not only will aapi voters be a bigger share of the overall electorate now versus four years ago, but, look, they're still small proportion alley, but they could have big impacts richard in some of these battleground states where the margin could be a couple points, the nevadas, the north carolinas, even the floridas. there are hundreds of thousands of aapi voters in floridas that need to be registered and mobilize to go to the polls. >> why do you think they might be registering at higher rates this cycle and specifically since you're bringing up swing states, you know those floridas, north carolinas, those virginias? >> well, i think open presidential elections always draw big interest. we have problem on one of the most interesting campaigns since the last most interesting campaign four years ago. >> yeah. >> i think in some respects, you know, donald trump, what he said about immigration i think strikes home to a lot of the,

you know, the newly enfranchised american electorate. i think for all those reasons we're seeing a tremendous amount of interest. >> three quarters of that group you're talking about, born abroad in another country, which is not necessarily widely known. one of the things that the a, pi victory fund, who did this research, you know, they're trying to spend money basically to get out the vote in that community. $2 million is what they're saying to try to register at least 50,000 voters in states where the number of those eligible aapi voters, asian-american pacific islanders voters exceed the margin of victory. has this been done before, and might this actually work? >> it's been done before. it was done in 2014, 2012. i think from what i know, this is probably one of the first sustained attempts at this for the aapi population. but, richard, it does show again that the numbers are growing.

they may be small absolute, but the numbers are growing. again, richard, in some of these swing states, they could hold the key to victory. the other thing is in order to vote, you have to be registered. >> i was going to ask you this. >> it's a simple concept, but -- >> that old thing about, you know, crawling and then walking and then running. >> exactly. >> so if they register, which is where we're at right now, does it translate to votes, and at what rate in these groups? >> it does. you know, especially in a presidential election year where you've politicized them by getting them registered in the first place, this again will be a very election. we're seeing that in the primary election turnout numbers. i think if you can register aapis, young people, old people, i think they will vote this november. >> we got california right in front of us june 7. you know, 10 million eligible voters in that state born abroad. big latino-american community, big asian-american community there. >> big.

i mean california in a lot of respects, speaking as a native californian in a lot of respects sort of is where the country can see what will happen next, and i think what we're seeing now in california, that's going to happen next, is the electorate is going to be very diverse. >> and i'm hoping you're not going to see you're a tree because i'm golden bear but we're not going to go there. >> did not know that. will not say where i went to college. >> thank you so much my friend. >> thank you. next, wounded warriors of war brought together by a prince and a former president. more on the second annual invictus games when we come back. ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile.

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is honorary chairman this year, and first lady michelle obama will be in attendance at tonight's opening ceremony. nbc's jenna bush hager sat down with prince harry for an exclusive interview and discussed his passion for putting smiles on people's faces. >> i was, you know, incredibly privileged and fortunate to be born into this position. and, yeah, find early on in life you sort of get harassed but if you can channel your efforts into things that really matter and bring amazing people together and put smiles on people's faces, then if i spend the rest of my life doing that, i'm happy. >> here here. that does it for this hour on msnbc. thanks for being with me. i'm richard lui. for the latest, go to msnbc.com and we'll have updates throughout the night rite here. we leave you here today with a big happy mother's day to all of you moms out there. happy mother's day, mom. for all the rest of you, have a great night. why are you all here?

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