candidates will have to release their taxes. trump still has not released his. we've been going over the newly released disclosure form. very interesting insights there. unity or fallout following chaos at the nevada state convention just the latest evidence of a deepening divide between the sanders and clinton campaigns. this hour a look at how sanders is staying in this race. d despite little to no chance he gets the nomination, could affect more than the presidential election. we're covering it all with our msnbc team on the ground. we start with hallie jackson in manhattan. trump's attempt to beef up his policy, what's he hoping to take away from this meeting with henry kissinger, hallie? >> reporter: told by sources it will be a conversation about

political topics. this is on the heels, of course, of the meeting with jim baker last week, for example, where we understand the two talked political strategy. not so much the nuts and bolts of foreign policy. that said trump over the last week or so, the last couple of weeks since he's made the turn to the general election, has clearly been looking to solicit more input and advice from longtime conservative leaders, influence republicans, in many ways republicans who have been around for a long time, folks who have experience with this and looks to build his connection with washington and beef up some of those policy roles and views of how he looks at the world, you could say. we expect to have that happen at the kissinger meeting today and in a sign of other meetings trump has taken, craig, he just walked out of a meeting with influential evangelical leader van derplouffe, he had an endorsement of it ted cruz. now meeting with donald trump

telling myself, katy tur, that he has not endorsed trump yet. he told that to the candidate in their meeting, but that was a possibility. he's firmly in the #never hillary camp. a team of rivals and he said he would be looking very closely at who he might be selecting as his vice president to sort of give a sign as to how he might behave towards the evangelical community and bring them under the republican conservative tent in a trump administration. he said trump seemed very open to that possibility but a lot of action here in new york city today. trump clearly want iing to get t there, wanting to solicit information from folks with ties to many different parts of the republican community. >> hallie jackson, very fascinating there. hallie, thanks, as always. let's bring in ari who has been following several of these financial stories volg trump

that had been developing throughout the day, last night as well. so let's start with this new information about donald trump asking that his vice presidential candidates release their taxes. bizarre considering he has insisted he will not be doing that. is that impressive asking your vp to release theirs? >> it's unprecedented to take the position the taxes don't matter at the top of the ticket but will matter for the running mate. our own chuck ed todd went backd forth with ben carson who has been part of trump's team. here is their exchange. >> reporter: one of the things many vettors do, you want to see tax returns, personal disclosure forms, things like that. are you asking for those things during this vetting process? >> i would say that the normal vetting procedures would be under way, all the things that are normally asked for. nothing outside the normal.

>> reporter: got you. normally that does include tax returns and things like that, so that's probably on the list? >> whatever is normally done. >> whatever normal, baby, is the position there. the bottom line is the answer there as well as confirmed by katy tur today they are asking for it. why? taxes are a place where you see without spin, without add jejece adjectives, the bottom line as put to the government under penalty of perjury, craig. >> let's talk about this financial disclosure trump filed on tuesday. i was poring over it. i know you as well. it's just over 100 pages. what are some of the surprising finds out of that document? and, again, it bears repeating this is not a tax return and that the differences are substantial. >> that's right. i'll read to you, for starters donald trump's position on it.

he says he filed his pfd, proud to say the largest he claims in the history, and he filed his report 104 pages on time. that's a knock on bernie sanders who had an extension and in it he says he has $10 billion in total net assets and about half a billion, $500 million plus, in annual income. that's the biggest headline. he it continues to claim these very large amounts of money that he says he has come in as income and that he has as assets. i can tell you from looking at certain pieces of it, which we've been doing, what he often does here is take the largest number possible like a revenue number and puts it in places on the filing that would typically be income. everyone knows if you're a small business owner or doing your own taxes, income is what you get but revenue may be a larger, irrelevant number, if you have a lot of money coming in and going out to other costs. so that is a way that he's used this new filing to show the largest possible amount of money, craig, again, as you say,

as everyone, i think, who has looked at this understands, as he understands with regard to his running mates, the only way to get the real numbers, the actual net worth and income are the tax returns. >> lastly, again, another example of him acting more like a traditional candidate. this fund-raising deal that he has with the republican national committee, what does this mean for trump and the party at la e large? >> he is in a coordinated effort to raise money for his own campaign and the party. they have a whole formula over how to divvy it up. legally he can now do that. politically i would add he is late. that is a product of a lot of things. the hillary clinton campaign has been doing this to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. he only recently became the nominee. he talked about self-funding. now he's relying on republican donors to fund the general election. >> our chief legal correspondent. steve clements is the washington

editor-at-large for "the atlantic" and an msnbc contributor. john, before we get to the foreign policy stuff, let's start with those financials. your reaction to trump asking that his vice presidential wannabes release their tax returns when he has said repeatedly he will not. >> what he said is i want to take a look at your tax returns as part of a vetting process. i think that's what carson was saying, and i don't think it's that big of a deal. as you go through a vetting process, you want to know if there is anything you need to be worried about. everyone gives their tax returns. that's normal procedure. this is not that big of a deal. >> it sound like you're saying trump will see these things but we will not, the public will not see the tax returns. >> the public will not see these things. >> john, does that strike you at all as strange, the leader of the free world won't release his tax returns and we may not see the tax returns of his number two either?

>> at the end of the day i think you will see his tax returns. that's not an option for him. it's been tradition for a long time. now i can understand why he doesn't want to do that. i don't necessarily want to release my tax returns either but i'm not running for president. eventually he'll have to do that. >> you think at some point trump does put those things out? steve, let me bring you into this conversation. this meeting between donald trump and henry kissinger. characterize based on what we've seen, what we've read, what we've heard, the foreign policy positions of a donald trump and how they might contrast with a henry kissinger. >> a little context for people. what donald trump is doing is meeting a lot of realist foreign policy establishment figures in the republican party, james baker, richard birt, henry kissinger, not the neoconservatives like bill kristol and robert kagan and

others that are important but they represent another divide, another wing in the foreign policy establishment. to some degree the gap between kissinger and trump, he's like a turbocharged realist in this and the two of them are going to get the other meeting kissinger and the republican party like the new hampshire primary. everybody has to do it. but there's a lot less distance than a lot of people are arguing right now because trump came out and said he's about national interest, about america first. and while kissinger doesn't want trump to rep nato, a lot of things sounds like old kissinger. >> what about the fact that henry kissinger was the guy that arranged the meeting in china between nixon in '72 and we've heard donald trump for the better part of almost a year now rail against china, the manipulation of the currency,

trade stuff as well. how do you reconcile those two things? >> well, donald trump gave one serious national security speech at the center for the national interest that henry kissinger chairs in an honorary capacity and in that speech he took russia and china and despite problems said we need to make a deal with them. so all of the railing on currency, and i don't want to say donald trump is a china hugger. this notion of engaging enemies or engaging someone like china and trying to get a better deal has been embedded in a lot of what donald trump said and just like kissinger, you know, says you have to deal with friends and you have to deal with enemies, he has to deal with candidates he likes and he doesn't like. and that's why they're meeting but i think a lot of people are pretending that henry kissinger represents an embrace of all these countries in the world and that is not true thinking in foreign policy. it's to engage rivals. it's to make deals and that's what a realist does

unsentimentally and kind of cold-blooded stare at them and that's what donald trump thinks he's doing. >> i want to play some sound here for you, john. donald trump spoke with warriors, his policy with regards to north korea might be. here's what he said. >> i would speak to him. i would have no problem speaking to him. at the same time i would put a lot of pressure on china because economically we have tremendous power over china. people don't realize that. they are extracting vast -- billions of dollars out of our country. billions. and we have tremendous power over china. china can solve that problem with one meeting or one phone call. >> so trump is suggesting that he would talk to kim jong-un, the leader of north korea. when then senator barack obama suggested he would talk to the leaders of rogue nations eight years ago, he was called, among other things, naive. how is this different, john?

>> i agree with obama -- president obama, when he said that. this is part of the kissingerian politics where you have to talk to your enemy and find out what's going on. i'm not as opposed to that as the neoconservatives who think it's terrible. and i agree with you, what trump is saying is that we need some stability. we need the ability to communicate and we need to use china as a lever over the north koreans. obviously the north korean dictatorship is a terrible, terrible regime and its leader is a nut job, but, you know, it's not the worst thing in the world to have some sort of engagement, to find out what's happening and how we can avoid a world war there. >> steve and john, always good to have both of you on. thank you. what happened in vegas certainly did not stay in vegas for the democrats this is about more than accusations of violence and harassment against sanders supporters at the nevada state convention. how the fallout could very well shape the democratic party

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let me also say a word to the leader shship of the democrc party. i say to the leadership of the democratic party, open the doors. let the people in. >> that's a fired up bernie sanders late last night after his win in oregon. the math for a sanders nomination, no easier today as

clinton also squeaked out a win in kentucky. sanders at this point needs roughly 90% of the remaining delegates to become the nominee. the one thing sanders appears to be able to deny clinton is party unity, bitterness between the camps has reached a kcrescendo especially after saturday's nevada contingent, a knockdown dragout, charges by the sanders camp of a rigged process. top officials from both campaigned in separate interviews today suggested reconciliation could still happen. >> there clearly are process issues to make the party more inclusive and open. do i think the party will come together? 100%. >> it's been troubling in terms of the messages left for the state party chair and other scenes that have played out in nevada.

>> nbc's kristen welker and rebecca hunt, kristen, clinton spokesman bryan fallon suggested in that interview with steve not only will unity be achieved but in retrospect this will be much ado about nothing. maybe that's true for the candidates. what about their support eers? >> reporter: i think it will be tougher for their supporters, craig. even when you talk to clinton campaign officials they say this is a campaign that has sparked a lot of passion on both sides and clearly that's still playing out. they are confident and october mystic, though, that there will be party unity and they say that, look, after california, once all of the votes are cast, if secretary clinton still has a nearly insurmountable lead, the hope is senator sanders would help her unify the party and they point to what secretary clinton did in 2008. senator sanders is saying he's

going to take this all the way to the convention so that's the question mark right now and the thought is that senator sanders really needs to take the first steps towards doing that but also barack obama is going to be key even when it happens. >> casey, you know senator sanders better than most. he will have to return to the upper chamber once this has finished. what's the worry the longer this goes on, the more bitter the divide, that he is going to damage his reputation even with democrats who might side with him ideologically? >> reporter: well, he certainly is going to be less friendly with harry reid. i mean, i think, look, i do think democrats are, in many ways, watching with amazement at what bernie sanders has been able to do and with voters who

haven't been engaged in the process in the past. i do think there is a fine line for bernie sanders and one thing that seems to occasionally happen here is when you have these flaps and it sounds like bernie sanders and harry reid had a conversation about what happened at the nevada convention, they seem to be on the same page. then the democratic national committee started to seem to choose sides in the view of the sanders camp and you saw him get angry and put out what was not a conciliatory statement in the wake of that and i think that underscores or highlights the bigger challenge here which is bernie sanders himself always feels very off put by suggestions he should get out of the race. you're bernie sanders, you do three or four events a day, standing up there watching thousands of people cheer for you and yet you feel like the democratic party is trying to push you out of the race. so that's why the clinton campaign today is walking such a fine line on this nevada issue and they're saying, you know what, we're going to be magnanimous on this in the

public. >> kasie just mentioned -- or allude d to debbie wasserman schultz, a former congresswoman. i want to play something she said here on our air last night. we'll talk about it on the other side. here she is. >> there is a way to deal with frustration over process, but the fact that the sanders campaign has issued a but in between condemnation of violence and frustration over the process seems to excuse their supporters' actions which is unacceptable. >> kristen, why is it that sanders' campaign has been so frustrated with her leadership of the dnc? >> reporter: well, as early as today on our air, said she is working against sanders and has a whole list of grievances, some she's made it more difficult to access voter roles, another one that she has appoint ed hillary

clinton partisans in some positions of power. now, of course, chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz has pushed back against the allegations and said, look, barack obama won under the same set of rules, but this is a theme that we've heard from the sanders campaign that the system is rigged. by the way, they're not blaming everyone at the dnc. they really think it's the dnc lead ership and this back and forth for months now between them and it only makes it more complicated to achieve that party unity we're talking about, craig. >> chrkristen welker, kasie hunn some street corner in brooklyn. always good to see you both. >> good to see you, too. >> john ralston is a veteran observe esh r of nevada politic. also a contributor when it comes to politics here. based on what we watched play out in your state, john, how worried should democratic party officials be that their national convention will actually be the kind of circus a lot of folks thought the gop convention would be? >> it's a long time between now

and the end of july. there's no it reason to believe the kind of sentiments that we saw and are still seeing in the aftermath of that convention from some bernie sanders' supporters exist across the country. i don't think nevada's unusual in that way. and so the question is what's the percentage, right? i've said this before, is it 10%? 20%? 30%? it was a significant minority of bernie sanders' supporters there at the nevada convention. now some of the things were endemic to nevada, they had already sued the state party. they think the state party is a tool of the establishment and of hillary clinton, but that's the same theme as you heard kristen and kasie talking about that exists across the country. so we're not going to know until july. we don't know whether bernie sanders will still be in the race at the convention. we don't know what kinds of outreach. craig, the real problem, i think, is that sanders, as you pointed out, did not douse the flames that were ignited and so i think it will be very, very difficult for him now to pull

that back and, guess what, he doesn't seem to want to pull it back. >> i want to read something for our viewers and listeners, something that you wrote on your latest piece. the have tvermont senator here elsewhere has tapped into a real ranger in the grassroots, but he started a wildfire that he cannot control nor, according to a defiant statement put out tuesday, does he have any intention of doing so. why would he not want to control this wildfire? >> because he doesn't want to disappoint his supporters. he wants to keep them in the fold, so to speak, at least until the convention. i also think bernie sanders, to some extent, is frustrated himself. maybe this started as a lark, as an attempt to affect the democratic party and the platform but then suddenly he started winning, was a real threat to hillary clinton until she got her campaign back, has all those super delegates and now is obviously going to have the most delegates but now is

winning all these states late in the game. i think he's frustrated. the poiboiling over with debbie wat wasserman schultz, that she scheduled debates at 2:00 in the morning. the point is bernie sanders now and the other point i made in the piece, he's acting like an establishment politician even though he's an antiestablishment guy in terms of being strategic in trying to keep all of these supporters happy. i do believe it's totally irresponsible for him to actual ly not put out what happened in nevada. they can argue that there wasn't real violence at that convention but there was an atmosphere where if they had not shut it down from people on both sides, craig, there could have been some real violence. he should have been much more contrite in that statement than he was, and he believed a lot of the nonsense his campaign folks here are putting out. >> john for us in sin city. always good to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks, craig.

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now to developing news in new york city where donald trump is about to meet with former secretary of state henry kissinger. in the meeting with the gop's pre-eminent elder statesman trump looking to develop some foreign policy bona fides. a meeting with kissinger has actually become a rite of passage for republicans on the party's presidential ticket. sarah palin had a high-profile meeting with the 92-year-old in 2008 when she was the vice presidential nominee. outside the office with the very latest, jacob, what are we hearing about the timing of this meeting? is it going to happen soon?

>> reporter: craig, it will happen after 2:00 p.m. he's doing some interviews several blocks away. it looks like they're getting the motorcade ready. trump called for the meeting, that he and kissinger have spoken on the phone several times. some of donald trump's most controversial statements, proposals, as he calls them suggestions or starting points, are on foreign policy, of course, including the ban on muslims coming into the country, build the wall and then just yesterday in his interview with reuters talk iing about how he' willing and wanting to meet with north korean leader kim jong-un. this comes at a time we step back when donald trump has been trying to make amends with the establishment he spent many, many months railing on, last week meeting with paul ryan,

with former secretary of state james baker. so now this feels like a natural step, as you said, a rite of passage of sorts and, again, that meeting expected to take place in the next hour. craig? >> our man on trump, thanks as always from that foreign policy meeting to a facebook meeting. mark zuckerberg is having a face-to-face with a select group of conservative leaders. facebook employees routinely suppressed conservative stories and artificially injected select ed stories into that site's popular trending news. senior donald trump adviser barry bennett, steve patterson joins me now from california. steve, what are folks saying leading up to this thing? >> reporter: craig, good afternoon to you. facebook has been about radio

silent about this, the content and what will be discussed, about finalizing a guest list of who's going to be inside to hear about this thing. what we do know this is mainly about easing the fears of facebook's sophisticated news gathering operation which i think is a shock to a lot of people. a lot of people thought it was just an algorithm that took the hottest topics and threw it up to the top trending feed. not necessarily so. mainstream media publications, cure ated by almost what is like an editorial board inside facebook. it's run like a mainstream media newspaper. at worst it is what this whistleblower is alleging that, yes, there is some suppression of conservative topics. some are purposely selected to add news gathering trend to

facebook. a lot of people are alleging that. facebook says they've looked at it internally, there is no sign of that happening. they say they will perform an internal investigation but, again, they have not found anything so today is about easing those fears and, again, another good four hours before this meeting is under way. craig? >> more people, as you know, get their news from facebook than every newspaper, television station or network and cable combined so that is why this thing is so important. steve patterson, thank you so much. good to see you, my friend. up next, democratic and republican campaigns may not just be battling each other this election season. it seems hackers -- hackers are trying to break into their websites as well. some breaking news we'll pick up after the break. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪

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part we played was that there has been some evidence of seeing that. the question was, it happened in 2008. it happened in 2012. are you seeing it again this year? he said, yes. the second part we played there is the dni, office of national intelligence, giving briefings to the various presidential candidates. that's a whole separate topic. in terms of which campaigns, they haven't said. certainly clapper didn't, although we're told separately these threats, these cyber attacks, are coming domestically, coming from overseas, and they're pretty much going after everybody. craig, i must say, this should surprise absolutely no one. just about everything is vulnerable to cyber attacks, retail sites, government sites, it should surprise nobody something as prominent as a presidential campaign would be subject to attacks. and as you heard the director there say they're trying to get the campaigns to be more aware

of this if they weren't already. >> nbc's pete williams for us down in washington this afternoon. pete, thank you, sir. >> reporter: you bet. >> folks, if the primaries are any indication we may see a report number of voters cast a ballot this fall, according to the centers for politics, more republicans than ever before have voted so far in this year's primaries. more than 26 million. on the other side, more than 22 million have been cast. they are on base to have the second largest, the largest, of course, being in 2008. larry sabato is the director for the center for politics and the man behind sabato's crystal ball which tackles this topic in a new article. what do we know about the correlation between primary turnout and general election turnout? >> well, i think a high turnout

can indicate that it's likely we'll have a high turnout in the general election. what you can't surmise from the totals is you win the general election. we have a very high turnout, remember there were 17 republican candidates to begin with five democratic candidates. if i had to guess i would say that we're going to have between 130 and 140 million people vote in november. and that puts the numbers right now and you just mentioned the republicans have had 26 million, the democrats 22 million vote. even when you add a few more million in between now and california it's clear that when you add the votes together it's not half of what will turn out

in november, probably about 40%. >> the primary votes cast so far, not caucus but based on what you look at, the central tenets, look, i brought millions of new voters into the party, millions of folks who never cast ballots for republicans and primaries before. i'm responsible for these people. do your numbers bear that out? >> no, they don't. other studies, one recently by political co-shows the vast majority either are regular voters or have voted in the last three cycles. to register and support donald trump not to minimize the totals.

there are people out there who apparently think that millions and millions of new people are being activated by donald trump and we haven't seen it in the primaries. maybe it will happen in the general election. it hasn't happened so far. >> any idea, again, based on your research here, why has the number of primary voters cast never even reached roughly 50% of the number of votes cast in a general election? >> because so many people love to say they're independents, even though they actually are hidden partisans and vote a partisan line in november, so they stay out. and then i've heard many times over the decades, well, i vote when it really counts. i vote in november. how did we end up with these two turkeys?

they didn't vote in the primaries. >> the white house weighed in on what we've been talking about here, the bitter divide between the clinton camp and the sanders camp suggesting both sides will be able to come together just as democrats did eight years ago. >> there are going to be strong feelings on both sides. but i think one of the lessons of the election 2008 is not to confuse the passion in the primary for disinterest in the general election. >> white house spokesman josh earnest a few moments ago. tensions came to a head saturday after this scene in nevada, that chaotic convention. many in the sanders' camp claimed the rules were rigged against them. keep in mind this is a primary that was decided by six percentage points for hillary clinton back in february. a state democratic officials deny the charges, claiming the

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donald trump could be facing a problem with younger voters especially heading to the general election. according to the institute of politics poll, 761% say they would support clinton and 25% for trump. the youth disconnect may run deeper than the republican nominee. 61% say prefer a democrat to win and 33% favor a republican, again, voters under 30. the trading point split doubles the harvard institute's poll of young voters from a 2015. jacob soboroff on the road to ohio. i understand you're headed to

pittsburgh. you just talked to some younger voters who say they will be supporting donald trump. what do they say about the movement, if you will, in ohio? >> reporter: yeah. we did, craig. we are continuing our tour of the rust belt, which is obviously a critical zone when it comes to the general election. voters in the kiswing state of ohio and the election, possibly the young voters trending away from donald trump but a small group i met at the owe state university as they say very dedicated to the businessman and trying to recruit their fellow students to his side. fascinating stuff. here's what i learned. take a look. you look at the numbers, young people across the country are identifies with democrats more than republicans troubling for the gop but don't listen to the numbers if you think of students for trump. >> you think of college you think of bernie sanders. a lot of people are realizing

those two campaigns run fairly parallel. >> i think a lot of bernie people do not feel good about hillary clinton and will switch to trump in this general election. >> reporter: what will it feel to punch the ballot for donald trump? >> it will feel great and our vote gos towards him winning ohio and winning the presidential election. >> you could go a long way towards winning this swing state. do you think you can do it? >> absolutely. >> let me talk to people. these are my friends, they're students for trump. >> there are a lot of things he says i don't agree. >> reporter: policy-wise or personality-wise? >> all of the above. >> reporter: have you picked who you are going for yet? >> yes. >> trump. >> not hillary clinton and definitely for him. >> reporter: you guys don't have

to do any work. >> there are 81, 83 million somewhere in that range of young voters across the united states of america potentially the largest voting block if they all voted together. the truth is we know they don't. they're trending away from the republican party. whether or not it's because of donald trump you have to ask individual voters something the republican party is concerned about, these dedicated but small group of students for trump are going to fight on to november. i throw back to you. >> every time i see you in one of those vehicles, i wonder who's driving, behind the wheel? >> harney heigl the legendary msnbc producer. >> i love arnie. who knew he had a driver's license. >> he's a very good driver. >> that's the news for this hour. i'm craig melvin, my colleague, erica hill, will pick things up after the break and ask debbie wasserman-schultz if there's

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hi, i'm erica hill. a lot happening in the race for 2016 with donald trump including a meeting with henry kissinger. the two sit down to discuss foreign policy and on the democratic side, tensions bo boiling over after last night's split victories. clinton took kentucky and bernie sanders on oregon and striking a defiant tone on that victory. >> let me also say a word to t e leadership of the democratic party. >> boo! >> the democratic party is going to have to make a very very profound and important decision. it can do the right