follow "lockup" producers and crews as they go behind the walls of america's prisons and jails for the scenes you've never seen. "lockup: raw." most of the inmates we meet inside county jails are only accused of crimes and are awaiting trial at the resolution of their cases, but others are convicted and awaiting sentencing for transfer to state prison. some of them have committed murder. their stories and the

relationships they form both inside and outside of jail often take unexpected turns. >> you're going to miss me when i'm gone, aren't you? >> i'm going to miss you like a hemorrhoid. >> we met david goodell while he was awaiting sentencing for the brutal strangulation murder of his former girlfriend, 21-year-old vivianna tulle. he held little back when he described the murder in cold-blooded terms. >> that's when i grabbed her, boom, and i started choking. she was trying to shake and move and going like this, looking at me, shaking her head no like choking her. choking her and i wanted my eyes to be the last things she saw. >> inside, staff considered goodell a threat to not only others, but himself. shortly after his arrest, he used a razor blade to slit his throat in an apparent suicide attempt. >> i believe that david goodell is potentially one of the most dangerous inmates that we've ever dealt with here. he is very intelligent. he can be narcissistic,

self-engrandizing and manipulative to the point that he can convince you of about everything. >> i felt david would try to engage me with either human or a certain amount of what he perceived to be charm. i think he was hoping that his story and he would come across better if i was on his side, while we were filming him. >> paper. >> i also angered him a number of times, because i was doing my job and he would cross boundaries, in terms of his behavior in the jail. and i thought could put other people at risk. >> that's the specialty of the chef. >> one such instance occurred shortly after a routine shakedown of goodell's cell for contraband. officers turned up nothing unusual, but goodell did, in fact, have something to hide, and he was better at it than most. >> the staff was finished shaking down various cells. i was downstairs in the day room and brian was wrapping up filming with goodell up in his cell. >> once officers left, "lockup"

director of photography brian kelly was alone with goodell, who decided to reveal his secret. >> here's -- >> do they see this film? >> who? >> them. the officers. >> when? >> now. >> they don't see the film? >> no. >> they don't see the film? >> no. >> i was filming post-shakedown and he kind of got my attention, he's like, check this out, this is what they didn't find. >> see the soap, right. looks like normal soap, right? you open it, see, right there? >> let me see. >> see right there? >> he starts digging in to what looks to be a new bar of soap and he's digging and digging and dig. >> it's a razor. >> boom, there's the reveal of a razor blade in this bar of soap. >> you take it out when you need to use it, you know what i mean? but that just goes to show you. they search for nothing, you know what i mean? we got nothing better than to do than sit here and think. >> you name it, i've seen it as far as how they're hiding

contraband. this is beyond what i was used to seeing as far as concealing any kind of contraband, weapon. this was flawless. >> looks like a regular bar of soap. >> we wear little ear pieces, so we can always be aware of what's being filmed, even if i'm not visually seeing what's on film, i can hear what's going on. so i immediately went upstairs, i walked to his cell door, and the second david looked at me, he was like a child who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. >> i knew they weren't going to find it, that's why i wasn't nervous, you know what i mean. not that i'm going to do anything stupid with it. >> brian had stopped filming at that point, and i asked him, what are you doing? he said, i was just showing where i hide my razor blade in a bar of soap. that was extremely alarming to me. david had already tried to kill himself, using a razor blade. he was very open about his ability to cause violence to people. and then i thought, you know, he's a desperate guy. you know, he was facing a long

period of time. who knew what he could do. >> no, i just took it out of the soap. i mean, it's a razor. >> let me see. hold it up for one second. >> razor. >> okay. >> you know, they, you know, they think i'm going to do something, you know what i mean? i'm not. i just had this just in case, you know, in case somebody acted stupid or, you know, in case i needed to use a razor. i wasn't going to use it on myself. >> what do you mean, somebody acted stupid? >> get in a fight with somebody, come in, put it on the end of a spoon, then just -- that's it. the razor is going in the toilet. >> how did you do the soap. because it looked perfect. >> i had a lot of time. so, i dug into it and then i took the pieces out that was broken down, i mashed him in there, wet it, and just reshaped it and, stuck it back in here,

and i used tape, because tape is clear, it looks like it's part of the seal, there you have it. >> let me look at that other bar of soap. the one that's sealed. >> same thing. >> is it sealed? >> yeah. >> there's no tape on it? >> no. >> it's a real bar of soap? >> yeah. you promise me. you swear to me? >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> for me, i felt responsible. and he was pretty upset. he was upset with me. but i explained, i'm not going to let you hurt somebody else and i certainly wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself in a bad moment. and in david goodell's case, he's an admitted murderer, so, obviously, i would not keep that secret. >> because officers did not see the razor blade prior to goodell flushing it, and since he was already housed in a high-security unit with few privileges, jail administrators did not take any further action against him. but said they would check his soap and other items more

frequently and thoroughly. goodell, however, was not done surprising us. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm here to see david goodell. >> one of his biggest surprises came in the form of david >> 7:00. >> okay, thank you. >> you can have a seat. >> david and i are friends. i'm kind of like a mother to him. i see him almost like a son and i see a very different david than the david who committed the crime. >> coming up, the woman who took david goodell under her wing. but first -- >> i noticed a door open and one of my best friends from high school, mother walked in and his brother walked in right after her. >> while covering the sentencing of a convicted murderer, a "lockup" field team member discovers a shocking person connection to the case. center. i'm spending too much time hiring and not enough time in my kitchen. (announcer) need to hire fast? go to ziprecruiter.com and post your job

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some of the most difficult stories for us to cover on "lockup" are involving those inmates who have committed murder. we are very careful about how we tell these stories, especially being sensitive to the friends and families of the victims. >> when we shot "lockup" extended stay at the louisville metro department of corrections in kentucky, we were surprised to encounter one particular surviving family member of a murder victim. >> be two years on september 7th that i got a call from the coroner's office, telling me that my brother had passed away. my brother had some health issues and i was expecting, quite possibly, just to be notified of a natural death, but when they told me the case was going to be classified as a homicide, that really took me back. >> when we met chad bishop, he had just completed his 12th year as a corrections officer in louisville. for most of the past two years,

the man who murdered his brother was incarcerated in the very jail in which bishop worked. dennis hall not only admitted to killing officer bishop's brother, but cashing his social security checks and concealing the bodies for weeks in the basement of the house they shared. >> i'm 50 years old. my life ain't been a whole lot of anything. i've really, i've really messed up my life. i've been in and out of jail, in and out of prisons. i would get a good job, start doing dope and lose it. i'm just basically a three-time loser, you know? and this is the last time, because this is going to take me to prison for a long time. >> the first thing i wanted to do was to take justice into my own hands, but i decided against that. >> but near the end of our shoot in louisville, officer bishop would get a sense of justice when he and his family appeared in court for hall's sentencing. and it was at that moment that a

member of our production crew suddenly realized that he, too, had a personal connection to the bishop family. it was production assistant jeremy stark. >> i noticed a door open and one of my best friends from high school's mother walked in and his brother walked in right after her. >> turns out that jeremy had spent part of his childhood in louisville and a very dear childhood friend of his happened to be the son of dennis hall's murder victim. you know, we're in a courtroom, i can't talk out loud, but i was anxious to know what the situation was, so we were whispering back and forth so i could figure out what this relationship was. >> jeffrey bishop's sons were two of my really good friends.

>> this has never happened before to us. you know, we've seen other kind of connections between inmates and staff and what have you, but to have a member of our crew connected to a murderer that we'd been profiling through the victim's family was shocking to me. >> i didn't know their dad had been killed. i haven't been in touch with them that much the last couple of years. so it just sucks, you know. like, you're walking in, i'm trying to do my job and -- i mean, i had no idea it was their dad. so they walk in and my heart just sank. >> jeremy didn't initially make the connection that officer bishop, who we had been filming, was actually his friend's family, related to run of his close friends growing pup and officer bishop remembered jeremy going up and going to kid's

birthday parties and being a part of their lives. >> jeremy was there when -- forgot which one's birthday it was, but they had the ninja turtle show up years ago. >> really? >> i got pictures of that. so he used to come over all the time and went to school together. he thinks highly of you. >> i spent more weekends over at their house than i did with my own parent's. i used to damn near live there. >> he was real glad to see you. glad to see you're doing good, too. >> off-camera, i talked to jeremy to see if he was going to be okay, having to deal with dennis hall down the line. because i knew we had more to film and he assured me he was fine. jeremy was great, he was very professional. he never indicated to dennis hall that he knew the victim. >> hall was sentenced to 40 years in state prison for the murder of officer bishop's brother, jeffrey bishop, but the twists in the story were not over yet. we would soon learn that

committing murder might have turned out to be the very thing that would save dennis hall's life.

our "extended stay" production team experienced a strange twist at the louisville metro department of corrections jail when production assistant jeremy stark realized that dennis hall's murder victim was the father of a childhood friend. hall was sentenced to 40 years in state prison, but was still at the jail for several weeks awaiting transfer. after a break in our shooting schedule, we visited him again and discovered another twist. >> i noticed a bump on my neck, i immediately got x-rays and got a biopsy done. i was diagnosed with cancer. trying to think of the name of it. hodgkins. hodgkins' disease. >> when we caught up with dennis holligan, there was a marked difference in his appearance. he looked like somebody who was going through chemotherapy, but

he seemed in really good spirits. >> really nice at the cancer treatment place. good people. they treat you like a human being instead of an inmate. >> so what's going on with the cancer? >> i don't know. i guess it's going away. i used to have a big knot, as big as my fist right here on my neck and it's all gone. >> what kind of treatment do you think you might have out on the streets versus in here? >> i wouldn't know. i don't know if they would have treated me or not. and i don't know if they would have took me as a patient without no more on anything, you know what i mean? >> had he not come to jail, he could very well have died from this cancer. and i don't even know if he would have been diagnosed, if he were on the streets. it was only because he was in jail and was able to get health care that he could get treatment. the irony is dennis hall took a life and that, in fact, saved

his life. because he went to jail and was a i believe to receive medical care. >> maybe it did save my life coming to jail. we'll see. >> in hackensack, new jersey, the story of another convicted murderer would also take some unexpected turns. they're the kind we find more often in jail than in prison. >> one of the reasons i really love "lockup," shooting inside county jails, is because everybody's local. the inmates, even a lot of the staff come from the same city. as opposed to a state prison, where inmates come from all over the state. and it's amazing how many times inside county jails we find inmates have crossed paths with each other on the outside. and that could lead to some pretty compelling stories on the inside. and david goodell was no exception. >> she was in her car. that was 23 days before the homicide.

>> david goodell kept pictures in his cell of the woman he admitted to tormenting and strangling to death. his former girlfriend, vivianna tulle. >> why? because sometimes i get a messed up thought, i like to remember her in a happier sense, you know. yeah win miss her, but, you know, what happened happened. and that's what it is. >> goodell never expressed remorse in any of our interviews with him, but another inmate, louis pizzi was broken up over the murder. he was supposed to have seen vivianna the night she was killed. >> the only thing i have left of vivianna was this prayer card. i went to the wake and it was pretty upsetting to me. i didn't -- i couldn't even go in the whole way. i was in the back of the line

when i seen her faith, i broke down in tears and, you know, i ran out of there. every time i look at it, you know, i feel like i want to cry. but i hold it in and i pray. my exact saying to her was, you know, you still want to chill tonight? and she said, i can't, i'm not around, with a sad face. i didn't ask, are you all right or what was going on. that's why i kind of felt like it was my fault, you know? i felt like i should have asked. i didn't think nothing of it. >> word spreads fast in the jail. people know who we're filming and i'm sure word got back to luis pizzi that we were filming david goodell, so i'm sure he must have been felt compelled to tell us that he knew vivianna and they had a real relationship. not everyone would have a prayer card inside their cell.

you're allowed so few things, to think this is one of the items you're carrying with you, it must have been meant a lot to you. >> pizzi says he never met goodell and they were housed in different units, but he did once see goodell in the jail from a distance. >> the way vivianna described him to me, he was a big tough guy. he didn't seem like a tough guy to me. in my eyes, i didn't see him hurting nothing, not even a fly. he was like a mouse to an elephant. david's a coward. he's a piece of [ bleep ], you know? he was wrong for what he did. >> but not everyone would agree with pizzi's description of goodell. coming up, david goodell gets a visit from the mother of a former girlfriend. but first -- >> he swung on me and we just got to fighting and picked up a hammer and hit him about six times in the head. >> an inmate's chilling account of murder and the woman who

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the first day inside a jail at prison is always a little daunting for a "lockup" field team. >> sorry to interrupt you guys. we're the msnbc "lockup" show.

perhaps you've heard of us. >> they are tasked with finding stories and issues to cover. often, from among thousands of inmates. >> we ask people questions. we do one-on-one interviews. we'll be here until june. >> it was no different at the cuyahoga county corrections center in cleveland, ohio. a 34-year-old ryan miller definitely stood out from the crowd. >> we met ryan miller when he ended up being in the background shot of something that brian was filming. he didn't have a shirt on. he was in his cell and he had this vast array of tattoos on his torso and they were pretty elaborate. so brian asked, you know, we like to film people's tattoos and brian asked you, can i do a little tattoo tour. >> i got a lot of clowns. on my legs. >> wow. >> and my back. represents like, you know, a lion's fearless, you know? basically, that's what it is. >> ryan was a big guy.

a really big guy. he was very pleasant with us. always kind of smiling. there was a softness about him, despite his large frame. >> how long did it take you to get all that? how much time? >> probably a few weeks, total. >> all of it? >> about three weeks, all of it. >> miller was facing serious charges, including aggravated murder, robbery, and offenses against a human corpse. despite his not guilty plea, he spoke openly about the grisly manner in which he took another man's life. >> the second he told me that a hammer was used as the murder weapon, i thought, wow, this is going to be an interesting story. >> miller says he acted in self-defense when he and a friend got into an argument over money. >> he swung on me and then we just got to fighting. picked up a hammer and hit him about six times in the head. and i didn't really feel or think anything at the time. just hit him. bang, bang, bang, and that was it, you know?

and it killed him. >> taking a human life to me is incomprehensible. it's the ultimate crime. it's fascinating. i am always trying to figure out, what's behind that? how did a human being get to this point that they could commit an act that atrocious and not seem to have any remorse about it. >> there was like a hole in the top of his head, like about the size of a grapefruit, approximately. it's like the skull, like went in the blood, like, it turned into liquid or something. i don't know. it was weird. it was just like the movies, though. it was no different from the movies, you know, if that helps any. >> it's hard not to visualize that moment and wonder what that man suffered and how he suffered. but on the other hand, i want to understand, this person is my species.

what could drive somebody to a point that i personally can't imagine, but obviously, it happens. and it happens with great frequency. >> i just clean up the blood and put him in his truck. and i went and parked it and i went and stayed with my son's mother. she didn't know what was going on, you know? she didn't know what just happened, you know? >> the victim's body remained in the parked truck for several days. >> look at the truck, like, we would walk right by it, me and my son's mom and my son, walking him to school. and i would look at it, and i would be like, damn man, just like, unreal, man. >> how many times did you pass that truck? >> probably like three or four times. >> so the fact that he's passing by the decomposing body of his victim on a daily basis, how that didn't drive him insane, i'll never know. that was much more intriguing to me. >> acting on a tip, police tracked miller to the home of a

friend where he had been staying. >> so i took him to the car and said, we got to the car, pulled up and said, where's the body at? i said, he's in the backseat, and that was that. >> i think the value of listening to anyone's description of committing murder is for people who deal with that population to try to understand that mind and get a better sense of who that person is, in order to try to prevent it in the future. if you're able to do this and feel nothing about it, then what would prevent you from doing it again, when something didn't go your way. >> it's fascinating to me you have no remorse about taking a life? what about his family? what about people who love him or care about him? >> i mean, sorry about the luck. >> after his arrest, miller developed a relationship with a woman he had known on the outside. >> yeah, i'm involved with a woman. she takes care of me. she helps me, you know, keep my spirits up and keep a smile on

my face. you know, she puts money on my books to help me. that way can i just, you know, not go without, you know? >> these are the cards my girl sent me. every time she sent me one, i read it and put it up along here, just get to look at them all the time. that's way i know somebody's thinking about me and somebody loves me. >> we were interested to meet the woman who fell in love with miller and a short time later, we would, when deanna turner was booked the jail herself. >> you started writing to him? >> yes. nobody would talk to him because of his charges. i knew he was pretty much alone. so i started writing to him and he was writing back. i don't know, we just kind of fell in love like instantly. >> ain't nothing going to happen with that relationship. that's my baby. whether i get life or whether i -- i believe that, in my heart.

>> just thinking of you always, my sweet lady. he's not a mean person. he's like a big teddy bear. i mean, i know what his charges are and i can imagine what people think about him, but i know that's not him. >> what did he tell you? >> what happened. it was like a fight that went too far and the guy ended up dying from it. the next thing i know, ryan's in jail. so i only know what he tells me. >> is that the extent of what he told you? >> for the most part, yes. i mean, i've read his court docket. so i know what they say happened. but, i believe him. >> turner says she's been to jail more than a dozen times for crimes she committed to support a heroin addiction. she was back in jail for violating probation on prior convictions of forgery, attempted aggravated theft, and

receiving stolen property. she turned herself into police at miller's urging. >> he kept telling me, you can't come see me if you have a warrant. he kept telling me, you know, you need to go and get it taken care of. it's nothing, just go and do it, go and do it. and it took him about two weeks to talk me into it. and i finally agreed, i came and saw him one last time, and i turned myself in after the visit. >> if it wasn't for ryan, i would not be sitting in jail. i would be running. i would not have turned myself in and i would not have stopped using, but i did it for him. for ryan. >> turner was eligible for up to 18 months in state prison for violating probation. if found guilty, miller is facing the prospect of life in prison. but he still held out hope for the relationship. >> came this far with me. knowing what's going to happen, you know, eight months, you know?

>> i would probably be heartbroken if he got life without parole. because i know then that he would never come home, ever. but i still love him. >> be it for emotional reasons, financial reasons, psychological reasons, it's always to an inmate's advantage to have an outside connection. and i think he realized, this woman was not going anywhere. she made it very clear, no matter what he got as a sentence, she was going to stand by his side. and that's something, i'm sure, that appealed to him. >> i've informer felt like this without anybody before. i can't get him out of my mind. like, he's constantly -- i think about him all -- like, 24/7, i want to see him. and he's right here. he's like seven floors up and i still can't see him. it's driving me nuts. ryan miller was later found

guilty and sentenced to 37 years to life. deanna turner returned to prison for seven months for her probation violation and was then released. 2 1/2 years after our final shoot with turner, she was out of prison and told us her relationship with miller was continuing and that they planned to marry. coming up -- >> yeah, nobody understands -- >> nobody. whatever. >> and they never will. and that's okay. >> the woman who made a special connection with david goodell. and the dog who made a special connection with our production team.

during our extended stay shoot at the bergen county jail in hackensack, new jersey, david goodell was considered a dangerous and manipulative inmate.

the only time he seemed to show any regret over killing his 21-year-old former girlfriend, vivianna tulli is when he was meeting with the case manager to prepare for his sentencing hearing in which he was facing anywhere from 30 to 45 years in prison. >> you know, i'm sorry for what i did. >> but even then, he admitted, it was all for show. >> so that's what i'm going to tell them. because my plea is open from 30 to 45. so if there's any type of way i can weasel my way out of a year or two, it's perfect. and if it doesn't work out, i tried. >> then we met someone else with an entirely different opinion of david goodell. judy, who asked that we not use her last name, is the mother of a woman goodell used to date and a frequent visitor. >> i have sort of become his advocate/surrogate mother and i'm here to visit him. >> what did you do to yourself? >> what do you mean?

>> you have no hair! >> yeah, i know, i cut it off. >> you look different. >> you look good. >> thank you. i try to come every week, but i talk to david every day on the phone. he'll call me sometimes more than once a day when he's freaking out about something, because i can talk him down very easily. >> what's happened with your face? >> i just butchered myself trying to shave real quick. >> i was a mess. i had a beard. >> now your bald. >> yeah, i know. >> not very becoming. >> no? >> no, don't do the bald thing. makes you look more like a criminal. >> really? >> yeah. >> because i knew david from filming with him and i truly felt that he was not only an insincere person, he was -- he remained a dangerous person, i was really eager to try to figure out what judy saw in david to allow for this kind of friendship. she's unwavering in her support of david. >> ten years earlier, judy met

goodell when he briefly dated her daughter. she says when she heard about the murder and his arrest, she had a deep emotional reaction. >> and it was very perplexing to me. i really did not know why this was happening, because i was not close to david, but the end result was, i determined that i was meant to get in contact with him, which is what i did. >> at first, judy just wrote to goodell. then she began to visit. >> my daughter is not in any way, shape, or form approving of my relationship with david. it has caused much discourse between us. i know what he did. i don't condone it. i don't accept it. it's just part of him that i don't know. david and i have a connection. i don't know how it got there. i can't begin to explain it. but there is a spiritual connection between david and i. i am very spiritual and i have a very deep faith. and that faith has brought me to david.

and i will not turn my back on that faith nor will i turn my back on david. >> i consider her my best friend, kind of like a mother/friend figure. she is a lot older than me. her presence with me is comforting. that's why i value it. >> yeah, nobody understands it. >> nobody. whatever. >> and they never will. and that's okay. >> most people don't understand themselves. >> i really haven't had a relationship like that. it's good, it's healthy, works for me, works for her. >> and no more tattoos on your face. >> no, just like two. >> no, come on, david. you look like a freak. >> she's been there since day one. and some of my own friends haven't even been there because of the severity of the crime, because they knew my girlfriend. just people just got excuses. >> goodell told judy about his interviews for "lockup". >> i was pretty much brutally honest about the situation and how i felt about it. i mean, because you know what, it's like, what am i going to do? do you want me to sit her and lie to you? not going to do that? there's nothing nice about murder.

>> no, there's nothing nice about murder. but there is a lot of nice about you, david. you could have shown them those parts. >> he told me, very explicitly, what had happened. almost too explicitly. and i told him, enough. i don't want to hear the specifics. >> to me, he qualifies as a sociopath. i want to know your opinion. >> that's very interesting, because to me, he does not qualify as a sociopath. to me, i see compassion in him. i'm not denying that his acts certainly make him appear that way. i give him commissary money, maybe $200 a month. i'll put money on the phone, maybe another $50. it's not a hardship for me at this point and it's just part of my life and what i'll do, as long as i'm able to do it. >> who are you -- when you look at yourself, who do you see? who do you see? >> who do i see? i see -- i mean, i see a good person with a [ bleep ] background.

i mean, like, i went through a lot of [ bleep ] -- am i happy with who i am? absolutely? did i do something that i shouldn't have done? of course. >> but you can justify it in your head? you do. >> can i justify it in my head? absolutely. is that normal? no. i know it's not. >> and that's the part where we will never, ever come to agreement on, because i can't understand that justification. >> that's also part of like the street life. the loyalty thing -- >> right. i know, that's what you're telling me. i'm taking you for face value. i understand that you accept it for what you do, but we're from different worlds. i could never accept that. i accept you unconditionally, but i can't accept what you did unconditionally. >> i know that. >> and a lot of these cases, a lot of women i meet who have these kind of relationships with inmates, they always say the same thing. i see another side of him. i can see through that tough exterior. they always feel like they hold that special key, that certain key to that person's real heart,

which is, you know, they feel is a good heart. but inevitably, i think, that person will show his real self. in the case of david goodell, even though he has told us and he's said on camera, i'm basically a good person, he's not. that doesn't mean he might not have a couple of good qualities. but at the end of the day, he calculated a murder and committed a murder and still feels justified in that murder. and i believe he would do it again, frankly, if he were out. >> i do love her? yeah, absolutely. i got a lot of love for her. >> loved ones in your life have paid a pretty big price for betraying your trust or how you perceive your trust being betrayed, right? would anything bad happen to judy at your hands? >> never. never. she's never done anything but be there for me. >> yet. if something changed in her life and she was unable to maintain this relationship, would it be a betrayal to you?

>> no. i mean, whatever she does, i would trust that she does for a good reason. she's never shown me anything different and there's a different set of rules for people that are in the street and there's good law-abiding citizens. that's got like some old lady that witnesses a crime outside her window, she's not like, kill snitches, this, that. she's not part of this lifestyle, so that doesn't apply to her. but somebody else that's in that life and knows about that life and know what they're into, it's a whole different set of rules. >> i truly believe that i will be here with david in some way until the day i die. >> all right. you going to call my later? >> yeah. >> and i guess i won't see you until next week. >> all right. >> all right. bye-bye. >> bye. >> do you love david? >> yes, i would have to say that on some level, yes, i do love david. more from a, i guess, more of a

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nothing should get in the way of the things you love. ♪ get america's fastest internet. only from xfinity. some of lockup's most compelling stories revolve around the relationships that form both inside and outside the walls. in order to capture, our field team develops relationships, as well. and for director of photography brian kelly, some of those have a way of following him home. the chatham county detention center in savannah, georgia, the new hope program allows inmates with nonviolent charges to work with dogs from the humane society, which are at risk of being euthanized. >> so this is a big deal.

we're trying to save lives here. >> for 30 days the inmates live with, care for, and train the dogs to become fit for adoption. >> you got to get your girlie voice on. >> good boy, good boy, good girl. >> it was interesting to me to watch these inmates working with these dogs, and seeing the satisfaction that they were getting from being part of this program. >> being around a dog, you know, i don't know, it just make the time go easier. someone to play with, train. >> my opinion, therapeutically, i think it was incredibly valuable. because, it's -- it's like they're giving back. it's their -- they're worth something. >> oh! >> it's something that was fun to shoot. it wasn't like being in, you know, one of the units where people are yelling and complaining. it was actually quite the opposite. it was people, you know, speaking in very high-pitched voices to dogs. one of the biggest challenges for me as the field producer was to kind of, you know, corral my

crew and get everybody together because everybody wanted to go and pet the dogs, or play with the dogs. and i can't tell you how many times i look over and saw brian's camera on the ground and he's over there petting a dog, instead of filming dogs. >> you better pick this up, mister. >> oh, okay. >> we're all viewers, everybody. >> jake was just as guilty as the rest of us, absurd. he questioned my professionalism, doing my job, by putting the camera down? that doesn't happen. >> smile. >> he's a beautiful dog. >> oh, yes. >> right away brian seemed to start a relationship with one of the dogs. >> you going to adopt an animal? >> it started off as a joke, given the fact that he had adopted a cat from a prison. >> eight years earlier, at the holman correctional facility in alabama, we told the story of

fluffy. a stray cat the inmates fed, and the officers continually tried to remove from the grounds. >> this is my cat, baby. >> fluffy had a litter of kittens in the prison. and brian decided to take one home to his family in california. >> that easy. >> he named it dot, an acronym for department of corrections. in savannah a mixed breed puppy named troop was being trained by darrell elder, and before long, he had brian thinking about adopting a big sister for doc. >> i have no idea. >> there was a connection when i would come in to the housing unit. she would come up to me. see the camera looking at you? come on out now. >> it wasn't long into our time at the dog program where it became clear that brian was going to adopt truby. he really bonded with her, and i don't think there was a question in anybody's mind that she was coming home with us on one of

the flights. >> my family and i absolutely talked about getting a dog at some point. and you know, so i had to get them to trust me. i sent them some photos, and described the dog to a "t," and they ended up trusting me. when i told darrell that i was going to adopt truby, he was happy to see her get adopted out, for sure. >> hello. how can i help y'all? >> well, i'm here to adopt truby. >> truby. excellent. >> adopt this dog, truby. soon to be changed to possibly ruby. >> did you know right away that you were going to adopt a dog? >> no. no. i actually tried to -- tried to talk myself out of it quite a bit, actually. but, she seems like a really, really good dog. >> brian, you know, you're my dog. i wish i could adopt you.

>> are you enjoying how nervous -- >> i'm not really nervous. i mean not nervous. i'm just a little apprehensive, because, it's a big commitment, you know? >> hey! >> there she is. >> what's up? >> were you surprised that a member of the crew adopted one of the dogs? >> i mean, i am surprised. i didn't actually think he was going to do it, that's for sure. >> do you think he'll like california? >> who wouldn't like california? >> truby was a pretty well-behaved dog so she wasn't an issue when we were packing up or anything. more of the issue was the people at the airline and them figuring out how to deal with all of our equipment on top of this animal that we're bringing back with us. truby was pretty chilled throughout the whole thing. >> we actually renamed truby

ruby. for ruby tuesday after the rolling stones song, and she's been an outstanding dog. but doc is a prison cat. doc kind of rules the house. for sure. he doesn't have a lot of patience for ruby. ruby loves to play. ruby wants to get in doc's face, and, you know, just kind of roughhouse with doc. but, doc wants nothing to do with her. doc just -- you can tell in his face he just doesn't have time. he just doesn't have time for this dog, you know? but ruby is an amazing dog. and you know, from the minute i met her, i kind of felt like, you know, she would be a good fit for the family.

>> locked in a cell. one comes out. >> just weeks away from completing his sentence, an inmate is accused of murdering his cell mate. >> front page news, i am. holy cow. looks like i'm a real topic. >> one month later, an unrelated killing acures in the jail. >> if i asked me a year ago, i would have said we have a pretty good track record.