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and michigan. keep in mind none of those states have voted republican in nearly 30 years. meanwhile, clinton is trying to keep the pressure on. >> there is absolutely no way that we can let donald trump get anywhere near the white house. >> but she's fighting a three-front war now against trump, against bernie sanders and her own e-mail controversy. on thursday she launched a one-woman pr blitz, including a call to "mtp daily" in an attempt to, well, clear things up. >> i said this many times. it was still a mistake. if i could go back, i'd do it differently. and i understand people have concerns about this, but i hope and expect voters to look at the full picture of everything i've done and stand for and the full threat posed by donald trump. >> and all of this with talk of a debate in the air but between
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bernie sanders and donald trump. as for clinton, she says the whole thing sounds like a joke. we've got it all covered for you this morning across the golden state. jacob rascon, chris jansing and kristen welker all with me this morning. jacob, let me start with you. you're in san diego where trump has a rally set for later this afternoon. >> reporter: right. he'll be here later this afternoon and he has this election strategy he laid out yesterday which was new, which is very interesting because he talks about 15 states that he believes will be in play that aren't usually in play, including california, which of course hasn't voted republican in a presidential election for nearly 30 years. he talks about new york, he talks about pennsylvania, ohio, michigan. this is where he's going to be spending a lot of time. he said he may come here to california as many as 25 times. of course we'll see how that goes. our reporting suggests that his ground game in those and other states is not very strong right
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now. we've talked about his senior political director, rick wiley, earlier this week suddenly being let go so it's unclear how he will go about doing that. in other news you mentioned that debate that's been talked about in california. that's getting a lot of play with the supporters. they talk about how exciting they think that would be. in other news in san diego, we're following the protest scene. we see a lot of supporters. we're not seeing any protesters yet, but we've seen online several major groups who say they will be here. we have a massive police presence. they say they're going to hold press conferences every other hour. they say they're prepared and will not tolerate any violence here, period. jose. >> jacob rascon, thank you very much. steve patterson is also covering the trump campaign. he is in fresno where trump will be in just a couple hours from now. trump, good morning. what's going on where you are? >> reporter: jose, it is about 7:00 in the morning here in california and already we are starting to see some agitation.
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trump not scheduled to speak until about 10:00 this morning. you hear the chanting behind me. i want to bring in police chief jerry dyer, the police chief here in fresno. jerry, already it's 7:00 and we're seeing your guys in between the protesters and the trump supporters. does this scene concern you at all? >> not yet. there's a handful of protesters that are here. a great deal of preparation and planning has gone into policing this event. we have contingency plans in place should it get out of hand but we're going to ensure that there's a peaceful rally today. we anticipate several hundred protesters being here, but we have plans in place to address them and make sure everybody can voice their opinions peacefully. >> reporter: can you talk broadly about what those plans are? we've seen this happen in cities across the country. what's different about fresno? what's your operation look like on the ground? >> you can see the barricades have been placed. they are all secured so they're not movable. we have a significant number of uniformed officers that are here
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that will prevent any type of clashes between the trump supporters and the trump opposition. we also have officers on the inside of the event. there will be several thousand people inside. we also have some officers that will be on standby out in the area ready to respond in the event that things get out of hand. but the main thing is we're just not going to tolerate violence today. at the first sign of that we're going to remove those individuals but i anticipate a somewhat peaceful event as compared to other cities. >> thank you for joining us. you hear the chief that they have a plan in place but the protesters already arriving. we'll have updates as this continues. back to you, jose. >> steve patterson, thank you very much. i want to turn now to chris jansing who is about 250 miles away in san pedro, california, where bernie sanders will hold a rally at 2:00 p.m. the big talk today is about this possible debate between sanders and trump? >> reporter: wouldn't bernie sanders love this? this will be a spectacle, right? you've never seen anything like
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this. you have the presumptive nominee, we saw that he now has the number of delegates he needs, donald trump, against the guy who has 45% of the delegates versus hillary clinton's 55%. never seen anything like it. it would be tremendous, obviously, for bernie sanders. he says it would be good for the process because nobody has hit donald trump hard on issues that matter to working class americans and we're standing in a very working class town south of los angeles. having said that, what we're hearing from inside the trump campaign is that it was kind of meant as a joke, which hasn't stopped either candidate from talking about it. take a listen. >> it appears that donald trump is prepared to debate. and i'm very excited about it. and i think we're going to have to rent out the largest stadium you have here in california. >> i'd love to debate him but i want a lot of money to be put up
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for charity. if we can raise maybe for women's health issues or something, if we can raise $10 or $15 million for charity. i think it would get very high ratings. it should be in a big arena somewhere and we could have a lot of fun with it. >> reporter: and we've seen sanders trying to poke a little bit at the campaign, at the trump campaign. jeff weaver, bernie sanders campaign manager yesterday, suggesting i hope donald trump doesn't chicken out, sort of trying to push a little bit on him. again, we don't have any indication that any serious planning is under way, that anybody is scoping out venues. the only thing we've heard from bernie sanders is we'd have to get the biggest place anywhere in california. in the meantime, he is scheduled to be here. i'm guessing that we'll hear a little bit about this pause it's also a chance for him to go after hillary clinton because she pulled out of a planned debate between the two democrats just a little bit earlier this week. something he has pointed out at
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most of his rallies since then. jose. >> chris jansing, thank you. but in case they're thinking this really does go through, i think i'm willing to give this hour up for that debate to be transmitted right here on msnbc. we could simulcast it on telemundo where i also anchor. we could do this and i'm just throwing it out there in case they're watching. what do you think, chris? >> reporter: let me tell ya, yeah, it's got to happen because we already have seen that the debates so far this year have had the biggest numbers in history, right? can you imagine? >> chris jansing, it's good to see you, thanks. nbc's kristen welker has been covering the clinton campaign. she's in los angeles. kristen, it seems that clinton's e-mail controversy is as big of a challenge as trump or sanders. >> it certainly has been in the past few days, jose, that's for sure. her strategy today is to try to turn the page on that e-mail controversy after that scathing i.g. report found that she did
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break the rules by not asking permission and not turning over all of her e-mail files. yesterday she was in damage control mode. she almost went on a trump-like telethon calling into various cable stations and she also spoke with a reporter defending her actions. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i have answered numerous questions. we have posted information on our website. and the information that we had is out there, it's been clearly public. my e-mail use was widely known in the department, throughout the government, and i have provided all of my work-related e-mails. >> now, jose, as clinton tries to turn the page today, you can expect her to focus on donald trump. she's been sharpening her attacks against him, particularly after he officially clinched the nomination. yesterday essentially trying to send a message to voters that they should be afraid, that in
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her words we can't let anyone like donald trump close to the white house. so i think you can expect to hear her reiterate those types of comments again today, but of course her other challenge, she is fighting this two-pronged battle, still trying to clinch her own party's nomination and california really key to that. she needs to win this state not just for the math but for the momentum. she wants to head into the convention on solid ground. senator sanders, as you saw chris just point out in her report, has been campaigning vigorously in this state and polls show it's shaping up to be a pretty tight race. if that debate does in fact happen, jose, it would be really bad for secretary clinton because she has said she's not going to debate senator sanders here in california. she's added an event here today in california and she's going up with political ads, so she's ramping up her efforts to try to win this key state. jose. >> kristen welker, thank you very much. great seeing you this morning. i want to bring in "new york times" political reporter
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nicholas confessore. good morning to you both. >> can i be a moderator? >> this is a big tent we have on msnbc and we're going to have this on telemundo, everybody is welcome. ken, let me start with you then. this is not a very good week for hillary clinton. how does she turn a page on this? >> well, if this debate actually happens between bernie sanders and donald trump, it's going to be very hard for her. the key argument that she's been making to the superdelegates who really control, who have given her this huge edge over bernie sanders in the nominating process and really have given her a lock on the nomination for all extents and purposes is that she is the better general election candidate. well, if bernie sanders can get in there and show that he can go toe to toe with donald trump, in addition to polls that show him possibly faring better in a general election matchup with donald trump than hillary clinton, that would be a huge problem for her, even if the debate doesn't happen as kristen
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suggested, the polls do show a close matchup in california. if bernie sanders should somehow win california, that's going to make for what bernie sanders alluded to, a messy democratic convention where he's going to stay in it all the way and potentially cause problems for hillary clinton. >> even though, ken, if he does win in california, it would be not by the 80-20 margin that would be needed for a substantial change in the delegate count. >> yeah, that's right. the math is almost besides the point right now. nonetheless, bernie sanders has the argument that he can say that he has done well enough through the process, he has the money, that he doesn't have to suspen suspends his campaign. he has the supporters. hillary clinton has to be very careful to get them to support her in the general election, so bernie sanders has serious leverage. >> nicholas, you tweeted out this story that ran in your story and said it now appears that democrats are the ones that will be the most divided come the convention. is this like this e-mail i.g.
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report, do you think it's enough to keep sanders supporters supporting sanders and sanders alive through the summer? >> the key word there is hope, jose. she is going to be the nominee. the math is very hard to beat. as you pointed out earlier. but what's interesting here is that the sanders movement is looking for reasons to keep on going. the e-mail controversy gives them a reason. bernie sanders is giving them a reason and donald trump is giving them a reason. so they are trying to get they're moving to the convention and keep it going. it's so fascinating to me. if you had asked me in march which party is going to wrap things up faster and have a more peaceable convention, i would have said the democrats. it now appears more and more that basically republicans are falling into line for donald trump from the grassroots up to the elites, to the donors to even the speaker of the house eventually. whereas on the left you see bernie sanders wants to have a fight on the convention floor about issues about israel and
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trade. >> so, nicholas, is there, do you think, a probability that a large percentage of the folks that support senator sanders, if hillary clinton is the nominee, will be able to wholeheartedly support her, and that includes coming out to vote for her? >> we've seen in the past, jose, that traditionally eventually the voters come around. some of the polling on this question looks pretty good for hillary clinton. you can't find huge quantities of sanders supporters in polling that won't back her under any circumstances. but if their standard bearer, bernie sanders, is out there saying it's still on, keep going, she'll get indicted, then you can see it being different. as we've seen in this election cycle, a lot of these old rules and habits are being broken. >> ken, i want to ask you something trump said on thursday
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when he was asked about elizabeth warren. >> she seems to have made it her job -- >> who, pocahontas? >> is that offensive? >> is it offensive? >> very offensive. >> oh, really? oh, i'm sorry about that. pocahontas? >> it's absolutely ludicrous in this day and age that we recognize high cheekbones. pocahontas pocahontas, it's so overdone. come on. >> what do you think of that? >> clearly she is coming after donald trump in a way that is almost in his own language. she is poking him and maybe even getting under his skin a little bit. i think she could be a very effective surrogate for hillary clinton in a general election because she does inspire those progressive activists and progressive voters of the sort who are like those who are supporting bernie sanders. >> ken vogel and nick confessore, great seeing you both. have a great weekend. >> thanks, jose. an historic and emotional day overseas as president obama becomes the first sitting
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president to visit hiroshima, japan, since the united states dropped the world's first atomic bomb there in 1945. >> this is an opportunity to honor the memory of all who were lost during world war ii. it's a chance to reaffirm our commitment to pursuing the peace and security of a war where nuclear weapons would no longer be necessary. >> ahead, much more on his powerful words to the people of hiroshima and the world. ♪ hi mom! hi! every mom is a coach... an artist... sometimes even a zoologist. every mom is a working mom... and it's working moms everywhere who inspired us to work harder. so we made our banquet meals even better. with mashed potatoes now made with real cream and chicken strips with 100% natural chicken breast. so now, there's more to love with banquet.
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an historic day in japan. earlier today president obama became the first sitting u.s. president to visit hiroshima where he called for a world without nuclear weapons. nbc's ron allen has more from
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hiroshima. >> reporter: president obama at hiroshima's peace park memorial. >> 71 years ago on a bright cloudless morning, death fell from the sky. >> the first atomic bomb hit an enemy target. >> reporter: reflecting on the moment when the u.s. dropped an atomic bomb on hiroshima and three days later another one on nagasaki. president truman determined to force japan's surrender in world war ii. >> that is why we come to this place. we stand here in the middle of this city and force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell. >> reporter: the president laying a wreath at a tomb bearing the names of 300,000 victims. those who perished when the bombs fell and those who died from radiation in the years since. >> their souls speak to us. they ask us to look inward, to take stock of who we are and
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what we might become. >> reporter: the president comforted survivors who over the years had hoped an american president would have come sooner to hear their nightmarish memories. president obama refused to second guess or apologize for president truman's decision to drop the bomb. he also warned of the still looming threat of nuclear war and the need for the type of peace and reconciliation the u.s. and japan have achieved. >> the world was forever changed here. but today the children of this city will go through their day in peace. >> reporter: president obama had considered visiting here since his early time in office. his impassioned remarks today perhaps an indication that he feels time is running out as he tries to move the international community toward a world without nuclear weapons. jose. >> ron allen reporting from hiroshima, thank you very much. i want to bring in retired army colonel jack jacobs.
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a pleasure to see you, sir. >> good morning. >> let's begin with the significance of this moment. i mean president obama becoming the first sitting president to visit hiroshima. >> well, this president is very big into symbolism. and if you're -- if you envision the possibility of a world without nuclear weapons, i think what you do is go to hiroshima, like this president does. but it is a symbolic gesture. in realistic terms, that isn't going to happen, but it doesn't keep the president from doing that. i think one of the other things, one of the other objectives in being there, by the way, and i think of a more practical and immediate importance, is chinese expansion. the japanese want to see the president there, not necessarily at hiroshima, they want to see the president there at least to demonstrate that the united states is serious when it says it's going to pivot towards asia. the chinese who are internally
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strong historically have always gone in an expansionist mode and they're doing it now. and our allies are very much concerned about that, jose. >> yeah, i mean the fact is that the chinese regime does have imperialist thoughts, that's a fact. but what is it that japan needs from the united states and other allies as far as strengthening that relationship and mitigating chinese regime imperialist plans? >> it's a very interesting and important question. i don't think either the japanese or the americans know the genuine answer. the japanese would love to see a firm commitment by the united states to japan defense. and one of the reasons that they are moving towards a less pacifist constitution, why they're increasing the size of their military establishment and why they're very concerned is because they don't necessarily believe that the united states, for whatever rhetoric that we say about pivoting towards asia,
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is really going to be there if as and when they need them. by the way, china is not the only thing that the japanese are concerned about. they have got north korea going, so it's timely for the president to go there, but i think it's really important that you talk about, certainly behind closed doors, about something other than nuclear weapons. >> and i think that in the case of north korea that receives a lot of its assistance, aid and support precisely from china, the fact is that the dictator there has been erratic, as i guess the whole family tends to be, but the concern must be that the president has to be addressing this issue with japanese leadership. >> yeah, and i think -- and abe himself is not interested whatsoever in any of these symbolic gestures of the time we saw on the video, the president's -- his view is that the president's mission there is to sit down and speak seriously behind closed doors about what
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kind of guarantees the united states is going to give the japanese people. and to the extent that we don't do that, we're making a big mistake. i think john kerry's visit there was, my guess is, expressly for that purpose, to talk seriously about mutual defense. but we're going to have to follow up. this can't be one of those we go out there and talk about it and forget about it. we're going to have to get very, very serious about pacific defense. the chinese are not going to stop what they're doing. the vietnamese that fought a war against the chinese some decades ago and won, i mean this is not the china of the '70s. this is 2016 and china is extremely strong. >> colonel jack jacobs, always a pleasure to see you, sir, thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you. live pictures of roads and airports leading up to one of the busiest travel weekends of the year. listen to this, 39% of americans plan to travel this weekend.
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most by road and by plane. ahead we're going to check in with some of the nation's busiest airports to see if the holiday weekend is impacting the wait time on those already long tsa lines, but first on the friday before memorial day, take a look at this drone above new york's coney island. a popular spot this weekend for like hanging out, going to the beach and a lot more. ♪ [female narrator] you listen when your body says: "i'm tired." or, "i'm hungry." what if your body said something else might be wrong? gynecologic cancers - cervical, ovarian and uterine cancers - have symptoms. so pay attention. if your body says something may be wrong.... please listen if it goes on for two weeks, see a doctor, it may be nothing but find out. learn the symptoms. get the inside knowledge about gynecologic cancers. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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nation's biggest airports. janet shamlian is at dfw. kerry sanders is at the world's busiest airport in atlanta, second day in a row but let's start with blake mccoy at chicago's o'hare international airport. blake, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, jose. i've been here pretty much consistently for the last two weeks since the travel nightmare began here two weeks ago. this is the best i've seen it, believe it or not. let's take a look at what the airport looks like right now. you can see travelers coming for the memorial day holiday. look at what they have been preparing for. look at all of these empty rows in the security line. unnecessary today. that's because they have every checkpoint open and things are moving very quickly. in fact they have tripled the number of dogs here at o'hare from 4 to 12 which can keep the lines moving much quicker. the dogs would normally be in the center lane. they haven't had to bring the dogs out at all, so it has been very smooth sailing here at o'hare so far. they have added additional workers on top of those extra
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dogs and it all seems to be working. i want to send things to my colleague, kerry sanders, who's at the hartsfield jackson airport in atlanta. how are things looking down there? >> reporter: the dogs that you say they're using there are using here as well but it has an added twist. folks are walking through. right now it's open and there's lots of opportunity for people to get right up to security. but what happened earlier, of course, was there were people coming here and the lines were back way back there, but they handed people little yellow tags and those that got the yellow tags then had a dog come around and stiff their feet and their shoes. then when they made it all the way up to security, they had that yellow tag in their hand and they showed it and it meant they didn't have to take their shoes off because a dog had already sniffed to see if there might be a problem with that. what that meant was the lines moved a lot faster than normal, because everybody has to take their shoes on, take their shoes
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off. on the other side over at tsa, we were surprised at one of the busiest times this morning, folks were getting through so quickly we actually had an opportunity to ask one woman, hey, let's put a stop watch on your trip and see how quickly you got through. she started the stop watch, went through, texted me on the other side. 3 minutes and 22 seconds. so those that spend the extra money for the tsa check, it all works out in their favor. but you can see things are moving along rather smoothly. my colleague janet shamlian is in dallas where folks are also headed out for the weekend. >> reporter: hey, kerry, we're going to give you a bird's-eye view of dfw's terminal d from the second floor. they tell you to come to the airport two hours early and this is why. sometimes it's not the tsa line but actually the line to get your baggage checked. we're seeing a pretty steady flow of holiday travelers here right now, but things are moving
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along fairly well. guess what, here's another idea. if you want to check your wait times, the my tsa app is a way to do that. and it can show you how long you'll be waiting. now, this is user generated, it's not the tsa putting in the times, it's actually travelers like these who are telling people how long they are waiting in line. these are all people checking their bags. i'm going to give you a quick look here at the tsa line. and it's looking pretty good right now. maybe less than ten minutes. with me now is david, a spokesman for dfw. how are things going today? >> actually pretty well. we wish we could have a little bit better weather, but passengers are flowing smooth low and the flights are going out. >> what do you account for this short line right now? >> at dfw, we have 13 checkpoints operating and that allows everybody to spread out over all five terminals so we have good cooperation with the airlines and the tsa as well so it all works pretty well. >> david, thank you so much. we'll continue monitoring it from here. right now people are getting off
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on their trips. we do have weather so we're watching that, but the lines are moving fairly quickly. back to you. >> janet shamlian, thank you very much. as you're sitting in traffic or at the airport, you might want to help knowing which way to turn and where to find the nearest restaurant or bar. cal perry has been doing some research. cal, what did you find this morning? >> jose, you saw janet with the tsa app. that's one of your many options. we've been tracking the travel online with our typical misery map. right now just so people are aware, the worst stuff happening in both houston and at the dallas airport. that's actually weather related, it has nothing to do with the tsa lines. some other apps that you can look at instead of the tsa app, what's busy.com has a very good layout of the delays at these tsa lines. this is where our reporter is in atlanta. moving on, this is the when not to leave. so jose, i know you're headed out this weekend, i'm headed out this weekend. i'm headed out during this hopeless peak period right here.
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this is done by the highway national transportation planning board. so don't go anywhere today any time between 3:00 and 6:00 p.m. >> wait a second, cal, this is what, on the roads? >> this is the roads. this is the roads. >> i'm doing probably what you're doing. >> yeah. >> so this tells you what the peak like traffic is? >> right, right, right. so today bad time between 3:00 and 6:00 p.m. i've got even worse news for you. i've got you here in my jdp tracker. this is ways.com. you are right here. right, in miami. >> yeah. >> it looks miserable. miami looks really bad right now. but i'm told that miami is bad on any given day. that this is normal. >> the highways in miami are so bad that you just might as well walk. it's actually quicker to walk sometimes than to go on the highways here, but that's -- that's neither here nor there. cal, thank you very much. these are great apps. let me ask you, on that don't leave now, where do we get that
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information? where can we go online. >> this is coming from the transportation planning board. they actually ran a scenario just for d.c. at first to see how it played out the last three years. they found out that thursday, yesterday, is the busiest travel day around the memorial day holiday. today is actually better. >> okay. cal, thanks. it's always a pleasure to see you, my friend. take care. coming up, donald trump's dilemma with latino voters. >> they do an exit poll of the hispanics, and who wins the exit poll by a lot? donald trump. i love the hispanics. i love them. and by the way, the hispanics love me. >> i have great relationships with the hispanics. we're going to do very well with the hispanics. >> when we come back, we're going to be talking about donald trump and the hispanics. ♪ [ male announcer ] tora bora fallujah argonne khe sanh midway
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donald trump insists he will win with the hispanics come
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november, but it could be an uphill climb. and trump himself appears to be making it even harder after protesters grew into riots outside a rally in albuquerque. trump put the blame on the protesters, flying a mexican flag, labeling them criminals. inside the rally he sharply criticized susana martinez, the governor. it underscores a problem trump has in drawing latino voters for his side. a record 27.3 million latinos will be eligible to vote this fall. that would be 12% of the entire electorate. a recent nbc news/"wall street journal" poll found he's losing them to hillary clinton by nearly 50 points. look at that. and that may be hurting the republican party overall. according to buzzfeed, the party faces a public challenge. how to draw attention to the infrastructure the party has built to appeal to minorities but at the same time supporting a candidate who's done
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everything possible to alienate that. that article written by a aryan castillo. how are you? >> good morning, jose. >> there continues to be a big push for the infrastructure to expand their tent. there seems to be some difficulty down the road. >> as we heard him talking about the hispanics, he thinks he's going to reach those voters. here's the problem. in 2012 after the election the republicans did the growth and opportunity project. they said that if your first sentence is not inclusionary, if you are telling hispanics you want them out of the country, you know, with immigration being a very passionate issue, they will not listen to your second sentence. they will not listen to your policy points of view. and so what happened was that they put a focus on actually having candidates who make the hispanic community a priority. they highlighted people like rick scott, the governor of florida. they highlighted people like
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cory gardner, the senator in colorado, and said these are people who made the hispanic community a priority. two months later donald trump joined the race and he has owe fended many hispanics. he's not doing much hispanic outreach at all. the republican party finds themselves in a place where they have the resources and the people on the ground in these key states, but there's no -- there's little hope that hispanics are actually going to want to listen to trump's message because of the things that he has said. >> and adrian, as you say, the republican party has put money, resources and efforts into working in areas of our country that have large hispanic communities. how do you go forward? what you were just saying was reflected with john mccain when he was part of the gang of eight in the senate immigration bill where he even said, listen, if we don't get this off the table, it's going to be very difficult to get through to people when, as you say, that first sentence is all of the undocumented that
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cross into the united states are criminals and rapists. >> and the other problem, jose, is people have talked about -- i spoke with a conservative leader and people have talked about what this could mean down ballot. i spoke with a state representative in orlando, he's puerto rican and cuban in largely puerto rican orlando and he feels he's going to be okay. but he talks about when he walks the community and he walks around hispanic homes, they're not excited about trump. they're offended by trump and they actually mentioned what was in the growth and opportunity project. they said he feels like he's exclusionary, he feels like he's against hispanics and they don't think that they like him and he likes them. >> adrian, here's what trump told mario lopez this week. listen. >> my relationship with hispanics is fantastic. i know so many. so many are friends. they buy apartments from me, they rent apartments from me, and i have so many employees that are hispanic. they're incredible people. and the way that people are
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going to love me is because i'm going to produce jobs like nobody has ever produced jobs. >> adrian, that message, i'm going to produce jobs like nobody else is going to produce jobs is one that would resonate in all communities, but among hispanics. but it's the other things he says when you put a comma, but, that i think is going to cause a problem. >> absolutely. you talk about the economy and of course that's the number one issue for latinos. the problem is when you have already made those comments on immigration, they don't want to hear you out. a lot of his, quote unquote, hispanic outreach is stuff you might have seen in 1985, 1990. just this stuff about a taco bowl in a tweet, things like that. he sent a video to hispanic evangelicals that was shot with a cell phone and he's just sort of saying, you know, national hispanic christian, three great words. stuff like that is not going to resonate with the hispanic community when they already don't like you because of the things they have heard you say. >> thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me.
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i want to go to capitol hill where it has been a house in disorder. on thursday conservatives successfully killed what was a normally uncontroversial spending bill. it became controversial when an amendment backed by the lgbt community was added. it would have made into law a previous executive order by president obama not allowing discriminating against transgender people. a similar bill caused chaos on the house floor. at the last minute republicans were able to kill it by one vote while democrats, you just heard them, were screaming "shame." joining me now, the congressman proposing the amendment, co-chair of the house lgbt equality caucus. how are you? >> i'm great. how are you? >> help us understand exactly what's going on. you had the votes and then you didn't have the votes. >> i just want to amend one thing you said.
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a very conservative freshman republican member of congress dropped into the defense bill an anti-gay provision. meaning it would have rolled back those workplace protection. all we were doing, a bipartisan group, was trying to say take that out. we don't need to go backwards and that's what blew everything up. when we brought it to the floor, he had the votes. 36 republicans voted against their own party, voted with me, and we won that vote. then they held the clock open long after time expired and literally twisted arms on the floor of the house of representatives until they switched seven of those votes and made it the other way. >> you were confident you had the votes? >> not confident, we got them. there was 217 on the board with no time left. we only needed 213 to win. >> is there a reason you're attaching this amendment to bills that are never disputed instead of, i don't know, introducing it on its own? >> like i said, we were reacting to an effort by a republican
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member of congress to drop anti-gay discrimination into the defense bill, which supports our troops, which supports the war against isis. >> what was that -- what did it say? what is it -- >> what it said was that the 2-year-old executive orders of barack obama that simply said you can't discriminate against gay people in federal contracting would be circumscribed, would be rolled back. we thought that was wrong. woe also thought it had nothing to do with keeping our country safe or fighting the war against isis. when we tried to take it out, again, two republicans and myself, we initially failed but we won this week. when we finally were able to put into law that we aren't going backwards, you saw the republicans took down the whole bill, like a kid throwing over the chicker board and going back to their room because they couldn't stand having a simple line in the bill saying we're not going to go backwards and let it be okay to discriminate against gay people in federal
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contracting. >> congressman sean patrick maloney, thank you very much for being with me. i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. coming up, as hillary clinton and donald trump'sabilitrump's favorability numbers tumble, is there room for a third? the libertarian party hopes so. this weekend they are going to pick their candidate. tony dokoupil takes us there next. can draw lightly, just like i would with a real pencil. i've been a forensic artist for over 30 years. i do the composite sketches which are the bad guy sketches. you need good resolution, powerful processor because the computer has to start thinking as fast as my brain does. i do this because i want my artwork to help people. for over 100 years like kraft has,cious natural cheese you learn a lot about people's tastes. honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? oh, whatever you're making. cheesy chipotle pork quesadillas?
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with both hillary clinton and donald trump being the most unpopular candidates in modern presidential history, some polls show a third-party candidate is becoming more of an option. msnbc's tony dokoupil is at the libertarian party convention getting under way in orlando, florida. tony, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. it seems like every four years we have a moment where we look to the libertarian party and say could this be their year? i've got to tell you, 2016, really no joking, no fooling, could be the libertarian party's year. 47% of voters in the latest "wall street journal"/nbc poll say they would consider a third-party candidate. just a few minutes ago we caught up with gary johnson, the front-runner to be the libertarian nominee. we asked which party he thinks he would steal more votes from. sounds like the republican party from the looks of it. take a listen. >> so what i hear you saying is republicans out there, if you
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don't like donald trump, i'm your guy? >> yes. >> your potential vp, bill weld, compared the feeling of a donald trump presidency to naziism. is that a feeling you share? >> the rounding up of 11 million illegal immigrants, what is that -- yes, it is a feeling that i share. when you start talking about rounding up 11 million illegal immigrants. living in new mexico, does that mean that my door, at some point, that my door gets knocked on and i've got to present papers for myself? >> reporter: jose, the other bit of news this morning other than the large crowds, a 30% increase in membership in just the last few weeks of the libertarian party, the chair of the party told us in an interview this morning that back channel conversations were going on between a libertarian party and the koch brothers, deep pocketed donors. the koch brothers are pushing back saying those reports are untrue, but of course they would say that at this juncture,
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wouldn't they, jose. >> tony, you're saying large crowds. are there a lot of people taking part in this? >> reporter: there are about a thousand delegates here. they have never had that many show up. usually they're in the 600 to 800 range so this is a record for the libertarian party and likely a record for their influence on the election. in 2012 their candidate got right about 1% of the vote. gary johnson polling at 10%. so ten times better. a lot of running room before november but things are looking good for the libertarians. >> tony dokoupil, good to see you. thanks for being with me this morning. take care. and that wraps up this hour of "msnbc live." thank you for the privilege of your time. thomas roberts picks up our coverage next. have a great weekend.
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bernie sanders one on one. the businessman says he'll do it if the $10 million tag is met. but sanders, he says he wants it done in the biggest stadium possible. will it actually happen? plus the nation's national health officials are sounding an alarm about a new drug-resistant superbug showing up in the u.s. a milestone in japan. president obama becomes the first sitting u.s. president to visit hiroshima laying a wreath to remember the 140,000 people killed in the atomic bombing and calling for a world without nuclear weapons. good morning, it's great to have you with me. i'm thomas roberts in for tamron today live from msnbc world headquarters in new york. we begin with the presidential candidates, all on the campaign trail today. as we head into the holiday weekend, all of them in california, one of six states holding primaries on june the 7th. for donald trump, winning delegates then will just be icing on the ca