who's behind, what's the margin, straight ahead on "mtp daily," and it starts right now. if it's wednesday, it's donald trump giving it the old college try, playing unprecedented offense against a federal judge. and defying defense against a new assault from hillary clinton. this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chuck todd here in new york. welcome to "mtp daily." less than a week to go before the golden state primary. could bernie sanders california dreamin pay off? we have brand-new poll numbers right now. 5:00 p.m. eastern. the new poll has a tight race in california. hillary clinton in a margin of error lead, 49-47. this is among likely democratic primary voters, it includes what california calls decline to

state voters, or unaffiliated. what's interesting here, among a wider electorate, of all voters in california, all registered democrats, sanders has a one-point lead, 48-47. but clinton is ahead of the likelies and one reason is this, among the folks who have already voted in california, nearly half of the electorate, she leads 58-41. clinton obviously doesn't need to win california on tuesday to win the nomination. she's expected to hit her magic number of 2,383 before the polls close out west on tuesday. but psychologically, she does need to beat sanders in california for symbolic reasons. a sanders victory in california could potentially give him a rationale to remain in the race heading into the convention. clinton needs the win to try to remove any legitimate rationale for him to remain in the race. despite those numbers, clinton

is going after not sanders, but trump today. one day after a federal judge unsealed documents revealing what former employees and some dissatisfied trump university students said under oath. well, hillary clinton used the release to lay into trump today, accusing him of taking advantage of vulnerable americans. >> trump u. was a fraudulent scheme where donald trump enriched himself at the expense of hard-working people. he is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. it's important that we recognize what he has done, because that's usually a pretty good indicator of what he will do. and on issue after issue, we see someone who is unqualified and unfit to be president of the

united states. >> in the documents released, former employees called the school, a quote, lie, and a scheme. saying the for-profit business relied on high pressure sales tactics that exploited the vulnerable and the elderly. the federal judge unsealed the documents after trump personally lambasted this judge on the stump last week. i'll have more on what was an unprecedented action, actually by a presidential nominee in a minute. but this afternoon, trump released a video of students speaking in support of the school. >> i must tell you that the courses that i took were outstanding. >> it was an amazing learning experience. for me, the teachers were very positive with me. >> through the trump university training sessions, we never felt pressured to do anything we didn't want to do. we never felt pressured to go in a direction we didn't want to go, sign anything we didn't want to sign, pay for anything we didn't want to pay for.

it was truly just offered and an opportunity we took. >> for more on this, i'm joined by clinton campaign press secretary brian fallon. brian, i want to start with, i know you guys want to focus on trump, but i got to ask you about this poll. you're up two. that's margin of error. do you accept the premise that if you lose california, it probably means you'll be dealing with sanders all the way to the convention? >> no, i don't. first, it doesn't come as a surprise that the race in california is very tight. we've seen that in public polling for a while now. we are spending the remaining days between now and next tuesday in california. there's two big delegate prizes in terms of the states that are voting on the 7th, new jersey and california. she's in new jersey today. we're feeling increasingly confident about things in new jersey. we're sending her to california because we think it's important to get all the voters who haven't mailed back the ballots. you showed that she's leading by a large margin in terms of

people who have already mailed them in. >> what does it say, though, that essentially news organizations, your campaign, your candidate, everybody's essentially declared the democratic nomination done. it's not technically over, the numbers aren't there, but the democratic voters have been told, hey, guys, this race is done. it doesn't matter if sanders wins and it's almost as if voters are defying it in california. does that concern you, in the face of all the evidence that says clinton is going to win, that there isn't a rally around clinton? there has been a rally around trump effect in primaries. >> i think senator sanders is still contesting this fiercely. his supporters are still riled up. you've seen the polling on the head-to-head match-up between her and trump, we still have consolidation left to occur. which shows that the bernie sanders supporters are looking forward to the opportunity to cast a ballot for him in california. california is meaningful. we're not treating it as a done

deal. >> obviously you want to win it. so losing then, when you're contesting -- you could walk away from it, you don't need it. by not walking away from it, you're raising the stakes. >> we think it's important for two reasons, number one, on principle, she believes in making sure every ballot counts and she's been resolved to wage this primary fight all the way to the d.c. primary the following week. but also california will be important in clinching the majority of the pledged delegates. we believe that with california counted in there, we'll have a majority next tuesday night and after that, there will be no doubt who the nominee is. >> what do you say to jane sanders that says, you know, hey, if you don't have with pledged delegates and you need the super delegates, then it should wait until the convention? >> if you only counted the pledged delegates, she'll have a

majority of those after tuesday night. that's why i think california is meaningful. so even if you took out the 700-odd super delegates, she'll have won, as well as with the popular vote, she has a margin of more than 3 million. >> senator sanders said to me on sunday, he believes, i said what's your path, and he said, number one, it is having -- they need to have the lead in pledged delegates. >> right. >> you think he, himself, has given a fair metric of what is contested and not? >> otherwise, i think he's arguing for the super delegates to swing the outcome in the favor of somebody who finished second in pledged delegates. that will would be thwarting the will of the electorate. >> you've done a lot of negative work on trump. two former pollsters are questioning this tactic. mark penn said this, this

morning. from her point of view, establishing positives is far more importance to winning. why spent so much energy on attacking trump, when he's over 57% negative and she has a lot of leadership qualities that are unsung. it would be like beating a dead horse. i know you attempted to build a positive case before, it hasn't taken hold. what do you say? >> we need to do both. we need to remind voters of the voice in this election. we were in virginia a couple weeks ago, she was meeting with voters in loudon county, vearge, talking about her plans for paid family leave being more accessible to more workers. that is one test of how she would seek to make -- >> do you really think it raises negatives anymore? >> i think it's important not just to continue to pile on opposition research, but to tell a story about what donald trump would mean as president. that's why we think that these revelations from this class action lawsuit related to trump

university is so meaningful. it's a reflection of who he is. >> you're not concerned that if you keep going negative, you scorch the earth for both of you, nobody wants to vote? >> i think it's critical to frame the choice for the voters. notwithstanding the politico story today, there was a story in the new york times quoting national democrats saying we need to talk even more about what having donald trump as president would mean. i think we need to do both and we can do both. >> thank you, sir. we'll hear a lot about trump university today because a judge in california unsealed the documents i was telling you about earlier. and also last week, that judge was on the receiving end of a pretty extraordinary attack. donald trump spent more than ten minutes tearing into him personally. and then trump went at him again

just yesterday. >> the judge has been very unfair, has not done a good job, he's been very unfair and i will win the trump university case, i already am as far as i'm concerned. but i have a judge who's very unfair and i'll win the trump university case. i could settle that case. i could have settled it. i choose not to. it's a disgrace the way the federal court is acting, because it's a simple lawsuit. i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. his name is gonzalo curial. and he is not doing the right thing. the judge, who happens to be, we believe mexican, which is great, i think that's fine. this court system, the judges in this court system, federal court, they ought to look into judge curial, because what judge curial is doing is a total disgrace. >> the judge was overseeing two

class actions against donald trump, is prevented from responding to trump. he said trump has called into question the integrity of these court proceedings at issue. here is mr. bennett, from the trump campaign. >> great to be here. >> let me start with you, and i know you're not part of his legal team. but there's a process where you can file a request to ask a judge to recuse himself. why hasn't he done that? >> you'd have to ask his attorneys that. but clearly he doesn't feel like he's being treated fairly. you have a handful of people who are suing for money, through a trial lawyer. we have thousands of other people who went through the same educational program who loved it. you know, we'll get our story out, they'll get their story out, people can decide. >> but the precedent, this is a federal judge, part of another branch of justice. the judiciary system, our democracy only works if the judiciary's decisions are

essentially, they count on the executive branch implementing or enforcing those decisions. here's a man running to lead the executive branch who is calling into question -- it's one thing if you're private citizen donald trump, he's protected under the first amendment, but is that appropriate behavior when you're running for president of the united states? he's the presumptive nominee. >> if he were president of the united states attacking a judge, that would be one thing. but he's a litigator -- >> so you agree it would be inappropriate for a sitting president to be doing that. >> sure. >> why isn't it if you're running for office? >> they obviously feel this guy is not giving them a fair hearing. >> when it comes to, i guess, where you guys are focused on this, why wait for a judge to unseal these records? why not be more proactive about this? it's been that way with the tax return. why leave this idea that it takes a court order to get stuff

released? >> well, we're going to start releasing a lot of stuff, like the video you saw today. there are thousands of people who were very happy with their experience. we'll tell that story and you can compare it against these handful of people out in california who are suing. >> let me ask you a question here. >> a celebrity, by the way. >> fair enough. a republican said to me, recently, asked me a reverse question about the national polls and i ask you this because you're a long-time student of national politics. why isn't donald trump ahead yet? and i say it this way. if his nomination is wrapped up sooner, you have a potential democratic nominee with extremely high negatives. why, in this case, there's an argument to make he should already be ahead, why isn't he? >> well, we were 14 points behind 15, 16 days ago. we've made remarkable effort at healing the party as fast as we can. it's still not done. i never expected this to happen so fast in two weeks.

but new jersey, michigan, oregon, we're inside the margin of error in all the states that are not on the map as we know it. >> do you think that's sanders related? >> in the same way that not only sanders supporters are democrats, we're going after those people. >> what's your message to them? >> they are very -- they are excited about the same things we are. washington is not listening. they are not responsive. and we need to change the system. that's exactly what they want to hear. >> barry bennett, i'll leave it there. thank you. joining me now, pete williams. i come on here to talk about, is there any recent precedent for a president or presidential candidate to openly criticize a sitting federal judge? >> yes, but not in a case in which you're personally involved. certainly candidates have criticized court decisions and criticized federal judges, you know, it happens a lot in states where judges run for election and they get criticized when

they stand for election. now you said federal judges, which aren't elected, they're appointed. and candidates have criticized federal judges, members of the senate have criticized federal judges. but the legal commentary is saying this is unusual because it's a person who is not just criticizing a judge's approach to the law, he's saying he's doing bad things to me in a lawsuit in which donald trump has a personal and financial stake. that's the difference. >> do the criticisms that he's making publicly get undermined by the fact that he hasn't asked for a recusal? >> well, there is -- to be clear about this, there is a way to get rid of a judge if you think the judge is biased or has a conflict, or there's the appearance of a conflict. you file a motion to recuse and the judge takes it under advisement. there's been no such motion. i checked the docket today. there's been no recusal motion

filed. i would say, recusal motions seldom succeed because they tend to be rather frivolous. that's the experience of the federal courts, but that's the way you get a judge off a case. and by the way, trump was criticizing this judge as early as february in a program called "meet the press." >> i know he did. i couldn't believe it. >> and also he's also criticized the magistrate judge who is handling this case as well in the federal system you go through two stages. you start before a magistrate judge who does administrating things, and then it goes to a district judge and he called the magistrate judge a trump hater too. >> it was interesting, mr. bennett, the spokesperson from the trump campaign, basically said it is inappropriate for a sitting president to do what donald trump's doing. not inappropriate since donald trump is a litigant. obviously that's in the eye of the beholder there. but explain to me what legal folks are saying what, other judges are saying what, other

justices are saying about what feels like an -- we couldn't find evidence of spiro agnew attacking judges, or richard nixon, we can any dogo down the. >> i've not heard anything gr justices or judges. you hear in the legal blogo sphere, lawyers, professors think it's inappropriate. because a person who wants to lead the executive branch, this is their point, he's criticizing the courts, criticizing a judge, the courts can't execute, can't carry out their own decisions. they depend on the executive branch to carry them out. that's what worries them. i would say also as a matter of trial strategy, i don't know how donald trump's own lawyers feel about this. i would say most lawyers don't think this is a very good idea to personally criticize the judge who is handling your case. but this is a jury trial and that's where trump is hoping he'll win. >> these are the head-shaking moments.

final question here. there was an uproar in the legal community when president obama used the state of the union to criticize a supreme court decision after the fact. so this is even more unprecedented. >> well, i think part of the concern there was that -- there were several reasons. they thought it was unchivalrous, the court's right there in the state of the union message in their black robes and you're calling them out on national television. secondly, justice alito thought one of the things the president said about the court's decision was wrong and said he lied. but the point is, the president didn't have a personal stake in the decision and the decision was already made. >> pete, thank you very much. coming up, more from our brand-new polling in california. we've got new numbers in the senate race there. yes, it's the most fascinating potential senate race in the country for much different reasons than we usually focus

on. also, president obama jumps into the 2016 presidential race with a trip to elkhart, indiana. why it's the backdrop for his message that he believes his policies helped the economy come back. plus, everything's bigger in texas, including hillary clinton's expectations. does she really have a shot at flipping the lone star state in november? believe it or not, she believes she does. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. nissan safety shield technologies, available in the altima, sentra and maxima. what backache? what sore wrist? what headache? advil makes pain a distant memory.

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12346789 we've talked about donald trump's claims that he can flip blue states in 2016. but hillary clinton is floating her own unexpected battleground. she said if black and latino voters come out and vote, we could win texas. she's the latest democrat to talk about the idea of flipping texas. the lone star state hasn't gone blue since jimmy carter in '76. the democrats best performance in texas this century was in

2008, when barack obama got 44% of the vote there against john mccain. so do the numbers work? could a huge turn-out among black and latino voters this year flip texas? not entirely clear. the electorate in texas was 20% hispanic and 13% african american. obama won big in both groups. since 2010, the population has grown by 1.5 million, and half of that is hispanics. that seems to be the encouraging sign that clinton is pointing to. but one important question is, how many of these new texas hispanics are registered to vote? we don't know the answer to that why the. but we do know a competitive texas is a bit of a stretch and would require clinton to commit major campaign resources to do it. don't go buying an extra blue sharpie for election night just yet, but if texas ever got into the battleground, republicans

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i know i don't poll all that well in this county. so -- so i'm not here looking for votes. i am here because i care deeply as a citizen about making sure we sustain and build on all the work that communities like yours have done to bring america back over these last seven and a half years. >> president obama made a return visit to elkhart, indiana, today to tout the economic recovery in that hard-hit manufacturing town. seven years ago it was the very first place president obama visited as a sitting president. just three weeks after his inauguration, elkhart was absolutely battered by the recession. it became symbolic of the country's economic troubles. the president went there to sell his economic stimulus. a year before his first visit, the town, which was known for rv

production had the highest unemployment rate in the country at 20%. the rest of the country was at 10%. i interviewed president obama, my first one of him as a sitting president, during one of those early visits to elkhart county when he boosted up the manufacturing town as a focal point of his economic agenda. >> our whole goal is, first of all, it's to rescue the economy from the brink, and you're starting to see unemployment drop a little bit here. but the most important thing we're going to have to do is to help elkhart reinvent itself. if i'm successful at the end of four years, i'll be able to look back and say elkhart's not just come back from the brink but is poised for the 21st century. >> well, so he's back. today unemployment is below the national average of 4%. the symbolic city is roaring back, but the president realized the elkhart story is just as important in this election as it was in his own. at least he believes that.

listen to what he said today. >> if you watch the talking heads on tv, they'll say the reason that folks are angry is because nobody's paid enough attention to the plight of working americans in communities like these. we have to challenge the assumptions behind this economic story. communities like elkhart haven't been forgotten in my white house. and the results prove that our focus has paid off. >> the economic rebound hasn't exactly been met with ballot box love for the president in elkhart. he lost it by 11 points. by 2012, mitt romney captured the state. in that county, president obama was crushed by nearly 30 points. attitudes towards his policies are mixed. but the president was blunt in his message to elkhart voters today. >> i came here precisely because this county votes republican. that's one of the reasons why i came here. because if the economy is really what's driving this election,

then it's gonna be voters like you that have to decide between two very different visions of what's going to help strengthen our middle class. >> so this is president obama's first foray essentially on behalf of hillary clinton. he'd like to seal his economic legacy with the elkhart success story and pass the baton. but will the city he held up as a symbol for economic recovery represent a referendum on his policies? he noted that doesn't happen very much. time will tell. still ahead, welcome to the jungle. california's jungle primary, that is. this one, for the just senate. it's our race of the day. we have brand-new numbers on that race. california's nuts. top two candidates battle it out in november regardless of party. is this an all one-party election that's coming up? join me next. i'll talk to two of the candidates, one from each party. stay tuned.

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california here we come. had to get the cliches out. bernie sanders versus hillary clinton gets the top billing for tuesday's primary in the golden state. hard stop. but don't lose sight of one of my favorite races to follow in this country, it's the senate race. could pit two democrats against each other to replace the retiring democratic senator barbara boxer. our race of the day is california senate, but you can call it a race for second place right now in the primary side. the top vote-getter will likely be the democratic state attorney general kamala harris. she got in the race early, has the support and money from big coalition democrats, she's the candidate of the democratic establishment. she has backing from elizabeth warren and governor jerry brown and every major fundraising entity in d.c.

now, what we told you yesterday. under california's jungle primary rules, no matter the party affiliation of the first and second-place finishers, they face off in november, period. and only two candidates. it isn't like other parties get in there. loretta sanchez is gunning to make it an all-democratic race. it's a tough road for republicans who have a couple of former state party chairmen in the race. tom dell backaro who received the backing of the tea party express. we have new numbers from our polls. harris leads the way with tlench%. congresswoman sanchez has 19%. democrats, one, two. in second, republican dell beckaro with 8% -- excuse me in third, the top republican vote-getter here.

joining me now from san diego, one of the republicans that wants to finish second. mr. dell beckaro, welcome to the show, sir. >> thanks for having me on. >> you're the top republican, you're in third. make the case, obviously your way into the top two is if republicans coalesce. make the case why they should coalesce around you and not one of your opponents? >> well, it would be terrible for the system if we judge uft had a run off with two democrats. you'd have no choice at all. that's why i was against this top-two system. if you want changed water policies, if you want a flat tax for america, you vote for me. if you want the same policies essentially going forward as boxer, you stick with the two democrats. >> obviously, i know many people who have run state parties can't stand this top-two system. you're participating in it and i'm guessing also unhappy with it. if you could change it, would you? >> yeah, absolutely. i fought it to begin with.

we knew it would result from past history in lower voter turn-out and less discussion. the whole point of a democracy is you have this interchange of ideas. under this system, that gets killed off and voter participation is actually dropped. so that's why i'm presenting one way to help the state in water and taxes and the democrats are essentially the same. i think sanchez is just running politely for the feinstein seat in the future. >> let me ask you this, the other argument is, if the state is knee-jerk blue, right, shouldn't republican voters get a chance to decide which -- at least have a choice of deciding which democrat ends up representing the state, because the numbers obviously are so skewed against you right now, as a political party? >> no, actually what we found out is that voter participation drops and the actual discussion drops and the policies have essentially stayed the same. so the point of this is, take

the very important issue of water. the democrats are essentially the same on that. yet we need a change in this state. california's number one in the country in poverty, number one. how do we change that? different policies. the only way to get that is by having a broad choice, me and perhaps kamala harris. >> it was interesting you brought up the issue of water. it's a huge issue. donald trump sort of got in on it and he said that there was no drought. that essentially he thought the policies of how regulation was deciding who got water and where, that the water was there, and that the drought was being overhyped. is he fully informed on this issue enough? >> i don't know about that. there's no doubt that there's a huge water mismanagement. 50% of the water that we catch and control goes straight out to the ocean, and that should reduce by half to end the water crisis. plus we have a long-term problem. we expect another 12 million people in this state, so we've got to build water infrastructure.

this is a discussion we need to have and why i want a state-wide water policy summit in march and why i have a complete plan on my website. >> and one final question, what's your advice to donald trump on how to make california competitive in november? >> well, really, it's my advice, period, which is look like kennedy, look like reagan, pick a national goal that all americans can buy into, and that would be a pro-growth agenda, that's why i have a flat tax and i think he should do the same. >> sounds like that means avoid social issues? >> no, it's not that. but you need a unifying goal. kennedy took over in a divisiv d period, so did reagan. you've got to look for a goal that brings america together in what i call the divided era. >> tom dell beckaro stay safe on the trail and we'll be watching on tuesday, sir. >> thank you. >> now let me turn to one of the democrats in this primary, congresswoman loretta sanchez.

welcome to the show. >> nice to be back. >> let me ask you about this top-two system. i'm guessing you must like it because it gives you a second bite at the apple, if there were a straight-up democratic primary, then your campaign might be done after tuesday. you have a second shot at this. good for the system? >> well, what we've seen over the years is that quite frankly the northerners come to vote in june and so they tend to win. >> when you say northerners, you're speaking in california, you mean northern californians? >> san francisco, sacramento. if you look at all the statewide officials other than one, they're all from the north. so that's where the political donors are, that's where the democratic party is headquartersed, where the heads of the unions are, they all gather around one candidate, they run them, they win in june. and when we from los angeles and south show up to vote, there's only one democrat there, so we don't have a choice. so i think this time we're

really going to have a choice and we're going to be able to talk about issues that are affected all of california, but they do affect in a different region way. water is hurting us in the south. it's completely hurting us, as well as in the central valley. and we need to have a water policy. >> what is the biggest differenciator between you and kamala harris? >> the experience. i have 20 years of experience as a legislator, i know what we've tried, where we failed, what we still need to do. she has no experience in working that way. she's never cast a single vote. she's known none of the pressures of casting "no" on going to the iraq war, or "no" on the so-called patriot act, which took away our civil rights, or "no" on the wall street bail-out. she's not known the pressures of that, and she has no understanding of armed services or national security or dealing with the international leaders. >> i'm a little shell shocked in

this election year to hear somebody run on experience in washington as a positive. as you know, that isn't always considered a positive in election years like this. >> listen, it is when you do the right decisions. it is when you stand up and say "no" on iraq when everybody is trying to pressure you into voting. it is when you vote on a tuesday "no" on the wall street bail-out and then on the friday, and it fails, the vote fails, and then on friday you vote the same way, you vote "no," but enough democrats change their -- or have their arms twisted so they vote it through. so, yeah, it is a year when i'm standing up and saying, you know what, i have stood up in very tough times and i've done the best that i can for the people that i represent and for america and i think people are going to -- the voters are going to say, that's the type of person we need. not an establishment candidate like the other one from san francisco. >> very quickly, i'm curious, you heard mr. dell beckaro talk

about a water management issue. do you agree with him that there's a water management problem with the federal government? >> there's a drought issue in california. we've seen it. we have uc irvine here, the university of california at irvine has a water management thing. we can take a look and see it actually happening. but on the other hand, there have been policies that have said, don't send water down to the south, let's not build new dams to capture the water when it comes. so there are things that we can do. >> loretta sanchez, i'm going to leave it there. stay safe on the trail and good luck on tuesday. >> thank you very much. coming up, our panel's here to talk trump's temperament and a lot more up in the lid. stay tuned. technology with up to 27% technology more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed.

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>> it's lid time, with me now, beth fuohy, ki wright from the nation and former senior adviser to john mccain, george w. bush, people know your credentials. >> i like the et al the best. >> let's start with trump university here. again, a normal candidate, this is a disaster. is this a disaster anyway? >> it's starting to feel like a disaster. in ways that everything else that has touched trump has not. he's been sort of wipe it away, was all kind of caught up in the noise of a busy, crowded republican field. that's all gone. he's standing there alone. he's standing there sort of bare basically with few people around him to prop him up and all of his flaws are starting to come through. that was not as much the case when there was a crowded field.

>> when you look up unforced error in the sdikz dictionary, attacking a federal judge is probably up there. >> it's probably third then it's sort of like between banning an entire religion. i disagree. >> you don't think this one will hit? >> i think until you have a string of examples, i mean, i think the way to go after him is to string together business failures. not revelations from a lawsuit which supporters see as the same way as attacks from the media. what did he do yesterday? he counter punched the media. if they want to make the case he's somehow business failure. i don't know how you make that about him. >> to me, it sort of duck tales on the way this was thrown in the lap of the clinton campaign, it's like we know what to say

about trump today, it's pretty easy and her pollsters are going you're beating a dead horse here. the public doesn't like him. you need to work your own positives. >> i think that's true. i also think, every time we talk about this campaign we are still forgetting that barack obama has yet to hit the campaign trail. >> we got a little taste of it today. he's going to be very effective. >> i think he's going to be enormously effective with his coalition and filling the enthusiasm gap for clinton. in talking about trump, in the end wi hae have to wrestle with message is what his supporters are responding to. no one is confused about his temperament. >> i go to the iowa state fair nearly a year ago saying i know all the negatives about him.

give my middle finger to washington. he's my vehicle. i know it's a vehicle that's a jalopy. >> those republican primary voters. this is not a general electorate who is taking a completely different look at him than the people who supported him in the primaries. >> let's turn to california. we have to declare the clinton campaign as won. everybody has declared this race over and voters are defying it. what does that say about hillary clinton? >> i don't know if it says much about clinton but the fact that bernie sanders message has resonated and will remain so. i think the challenge for the sanders campaign at this point is bernie sanders is not going to be the nominee. he's not going to be president of the united states. the question is how do we marshal the enthusiasm for his ideas and the ideas that have come around him and take them into the rest of this campaign and beyond.

so, i think that's where we need leadership from bernie sanders and where we need leadership from the folks around him. >> i agree. i think one of his ideas has been the idea that hillary clinton is corrupt, unqualified. one of the ideas that's kept people excited is he's willing to attack the democratic establishment with as much vigor as he's attacked a rigged economy. one of the questions the republicans have is not that they go to trump but do they stay home. does this maybe help in some of these close states? i think it's fairy tale they will become -- i don't think they're going to trump. i know that they necessarily attach themselves to hillary clinton. >> they could go to gary johnson. >> in our new poll that you reported on today and the poll that came out of california, bernie sanders supporters in california are independents who

never voted for who are unlikely to vote. that's going to carry -- it's been his problem all along. she cannot get those young people to get behind her. that's a huge problem for this time and especially in the future for democrats. how do you make democrats feel attached to the democratic party and not to bernie sanders. >> usa today did a study about the number of lawsuits trump has been involved in. it's between 3500 different lawsuits in some form in state and federal government, legal actions as they described it. it's mind boggling. i know some of it is trump is a bit litigious himself.

>> one of us will be sued by the end of the cycle. >> i think we may have one. >> i think this is part of his, you know, message about being a counter puncher. if he's asked about this, what he would say if i'm channelling my inner trump is hard to do with water in this cup. he will say when people attack him or business practices used or viewed as unfair. he takes them to court. i think he'll have an explanation that will satisfy his base. >> the unanswered question remains there's a group of voters who are not obvious trump supporters who may not say they be support trump and what will they do when they show up at the polls. >> it's like trial lawyers.

they sue everybody. we have a candidate he's only looking at himself. he does not look like a republican at all. >> since he announce and his candidacy, at least 70 new cases have been filed by him and his companies and those filed against him. >> he never settles. this article said he settled 100, at least. >> i have a feeling america's newspaper will be on the doorstep of a lot of hotels. we'll be right back after this. same here. wouldn't it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi double cash card does. earn 1% cash back when you buy, and 1% as you pay. double means double. >> i'm alex trebek. if you're age 50 to 85, i have an important message about security. write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. the lock i want to talk to you about isn't the one on your door. this is a lock for your life insurance, a rate lock,

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that's it for today's show. thanks again for tuning in fp y. you can get the compete california poll. "with all due respect" starts in four seconds. "with all due respect" to bill crystal's political judgment, looks like david french may have a little bit of work to do. >> who is david french? >> who is david french? >> who the heck is david french? >> hello again from l.a. there's a lot happening here in this golden state before the california primary. we can hardly look up from our telephonic devices because today a presidential candidate went on a twitter rant posting a