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that's it for today's show. thanks again for tuning in fp y. you can get the compete california poll. "with all due respect" starts in four seconds. "with all due respect" to bill crystal's political judgment, looks like david french may have a little bit of work to do. >> who is david french? >> who is david french? >> who the heck is david french? >> hello again from l.a. there's a lot happening here in this golden state before the california primary. we can hardly look up from our telephonic devices because today a presidential candidate went on a twitter rant posting a series
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of white hot burns and no, this time the burner in question was not donald j. trump billionaire. it was hillary r. clinton, multimillionaire. in a tweet clinton flayed trump over documents published this the new york times and the washington post about a federal lawsuit against the for profit school known as trump university. here is a sampling hot off the boiler. clinton warned a new york times article on this matter ma cause nausea. she called the business practices that trump engaged in sleazy and fraudulent and wrote the trump university con says a lot about trump. if you can't trust him with your personal finances, how can you trust him with our country? these days that counts as presidential smackdown opinion clinton continued her attacks in the flesh at a rally in newark, new jersey today. >> this is just more evidence that donald trump, himself, is a
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fraud. he is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. it's important that we recognize what he has done because that's usually a pretty good indicator of what he will do. >> mark, hillary clinton clearly trying to make trump university a big issue. my question is, is this an issue we'll be talking about or will it be forgotten by the fall or can clinton makes this an issue that dogs trump? >> the for profit business is pretty dodgey across the board. he is facing accusations that would be serious for a normal candidate. the big candidate are victims or people who claim to be victims. who are the real human faces, not just on paper but in flesh
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and blood and on video. >> i think the reason why this could be a problem for trump, you have people who work for trump say it's scam. it's a con. using really salty language about their own employer. if the narrative -- >> i say more spicy than salty. >> spicy and salty. if the narrative they're trying to build is he's a conm man who doesn't care about the real lives of people and profited at their expense, this will not be the silver bullet that kills donald trump, if they can build it, it will be crippling to his campaign. this is one piece of evidence. >> there's a lot of facts that go to some of trump's vulnerabilities in terms of using his name to make money. i do think trump has a history of being able to use lawyers and delay tactics. maybe he settles the case even though he says he won't. if he can make the legal part go
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away, then maybe. you think about the attacks against mitt romney. the things were real people. they need to see the people. this is dangerous for trump. >> it is. >> in between the tweets today, the clinton campaign found the time to sent out a press release that bill clinton will join his wife in california for the primary leading up to next tuesday. clinton had cancelled some scheduled events in new jersey so she would spend more time in california to the run up to that critical contest here on tuesday. this comes as a brand new nbc wall street journal marist poll shows that clinton holds a narrow two-point lead over bernie sanders in the golden state. john, the clinton campaign is
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going here the try to win this state. are the clintons coming to try to put this away or more playing defense because they recognize they're behind? >> i think they think they can still win this state. i think both campaigns would privately say it's a toss up. the clinton people are clearly nervous and deploying two assets that mean more to them than anything, advertising dollars and bill clinton. >> her support is in the two big areas and around the bay area. if you have both clintons they can go other place but they can try to swell the vote.
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this is one of the places where bill clinton because of his star power, he was always hollywood's candidate. he will get a lot of air time if they're willing to put him in front of the cameras. they have not done much of that. i think he'll get on local news. they'll split the delegates no matter what. a narrow win will give them to argue for the good of the party, must unify bernie sanders. i think a full court press here if she comes up with a win, this could be a decisive decision to send the big dog to the big state. >> all right. the story that the clinton campaign would very much like to go away, her e-mails is not
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going away. some testimony has been released. we're talking about cheryl mills. in her testimony she said advisors didn't think very hard about the problems a private e-mail server could cause and this was absolutely not about avoiding public record laws. yesterday evening clinton gave phone interviews to msnbc and cnn in which he defeated her campaign. she said voters don't seem to care very much. my question for you, we talked about this yesterday about the slight shift in terms of how they were doing defense, has this round, we're going to get the fbi, is this round in the rear view mirror or is she still
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under siege? >> i don't like they are being fuzzy about what he's in trouble for. i will say as a matter of pure politics, they're in pretty good shape. i think they have gotten through this. there's a lot of other distractions. there's not much for people to siege on and if the fbi doesn't charge her, and i still don't know what they will charge her with, it will take a lot for republicans to reunite this. lots of damage has been done. a matter of daily troubles for her questions. i think they may have a chance to get through this. >> there's a real lesson for the clinton campaign. i agree with most of what you said. they were really having trouble in this most recent round of this dealing with the ig's report. she's not been nearly as available as donald trump.
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the fact she made herself for available. she came out and did a round of tv interviews. she did the phone interviews. even if you're not changing your position much and giving unis a tis f -- unsatisfactory answer, you're presence is out there. coming up, forget everything you know about david french. that probably didn't take long. our french education class after this. e taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent.
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can this man, david french raise money. a lot of important questions to ask. the first question is a more basic one. who is david french? >> we can expect to hear names, trump, clinton, sanders and french. that's right, french. >> someone many people may not have heard of. >> if you have no idea who that is, don't worry. you're not alone. >> don't know mr. french. >> what does he offer of mr. french? >> you met my friend, mr. fre h french, the other night. >> zeroing in on david french. >> david french not exactly a household name. >> who exactly is david french? >> so, who is david french? >> who the heck is david french?
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>> and who is david french. >> french tweeted last night. i'm humbled and grateful for the expressions of support. we want to switch to the flooding emergency taking police across texas. >> you heard david french tweeted last night and one today saying this has been a year of long shots. lots of reaction. mostly people expressing skepticism. some have been supportive. >> it's not soaring skyward with a rapid velocity. >> no french mania. >> that's not happening. most people have said the fact that david french is bill crystal's guy signals the end of the never trump movement. the odds of this guy given his
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low name id, the issues he'll have on raising money, getting on all the ballots to make a difference, the odds of him changing the race are small. he's not presented himself in any way. be female do if he does decide to run, where he makes an actual speech, is he compelling or not? >> a compelling speech is a big deal. fund raising is a big deal. he does need to be someone who the country could look at or some parts of the country look at and say that guy seems like he can be the president of the united states and a better president than the two unpopular front runners of the two major parties. given how ridiculously it was launched, broken by us, ridiculous.
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the guy has tweeted twice, no one has spoken up in a prominent way, it's in decent shame. he's got a lot of work to do if ghets in this race to rev it up. >> he's got to be magic out of gate. >> he has to be the natural. >> donald trump's birthday is in two weeks. what do you get for the man who has everything? how about a super pac. even donald trump, billionaire, might need a super pac. sheldon adelson is in talks to set up a pro-trump super pac. two of them already exist. wealthy donors have raised concerns about both of them. it's a lot of confusion on the trump super pac front. a battle against clinton, donald trump will need to raise a lot more money. why is the trump campaign having so much trouble getting its act together on this front? >> you start with the fact that
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the trump campaign sends mixed signals whether they want a super pac. a lot of wealthy people don't want to just go to a central fund and let that manager of those funds decide how it's spent. they want to hire the consultants and some of them want to be specific, are we doing advertising, what are we doing? i think without the campaign playing an active role or privately, this thing continues to float in way that's not helpful to his chances. >> in 2012, we had the first big super pac election. they knew the mind of the romney campaign pretty well and yet they found effective coordination very difficult to pull off and it was largely seen
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as a failure among a lot of donor who is put a lot of money into those super pacs. if i'm a big republican, rich donor looking at trump's unpredictabili unpredictability, knowing how hard it is to work effectively without coordination, i would be weary about this and just be a giant sink down which i can pour millions of dollars. >> there's so much for them to do. they really need to get this fixed. the clinton one moves on. i will say, however, that the republicans normal advantage in millionaires and billionaires writing big checks over the democrats could kick in in a big hurry if they can solve this. the clinton effort is robust but not overwhelming. when we come back, we'll speak to barack obama top word smith. if you're taking multiple medications,
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♪ welcome back to los angeles. we're joined 3,000 miles away by the republican chief strategist who joining us from rnc headquarters. thanks for coming on. we want to talk to you about hillary clinton and her e-mails starting out and ask you this, the fbi investigation continues. what would you hope they would
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do, specifically, what crime do you think secretary clinton might have committed? >> i don't know. i'm not an attorney. i think it's a good question though. what we've seen from the ig report last week was that she did break state department rules. they have done things to block the investigation, her and her top aides. they knew what they were doing was wrong. more than just a crime, i think it's the pattern. what we have seen with hillary clinton is not someone who tells the truth. has a set of rules separate from the set of rules everyone else has to play by. the bigger issue isn't necessarily the underlying crimes that may or may not come of this but this continued lack of honesty and forthrightness that the clintons have the propensity to tell. >> there's a lot of things singled out that they should
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never raise their concerns about her private server. do you have reason to believe anything you heard that that person was acting on orders from above or that was a mid level person saying leave the secretary alone. >> of course. this isn't just one instance. it's a pattern. they knew the risks involved. they flagged her use of the blackberry in the office. on multiple occasions there were warnings that the behavior they were involved in was not up to the state department's standards and not abiding by the rules set. they were made aware there were potential opportunities to hack
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the e-mails and vulnerabilities that existed under the system they set up under the secret server. they were aware of the rules. her top aides signed forms that stated that they knew what they were dealing with and yet they violated. at some point the buck has to stop at the top. the second thing is when you look at, we had to file not only several foyas but sue the state department to find out if the guy who set up the server had any e-mails. the state department reported back that the i.t. guy, there are no record of any e-mails. i don't know how the e-mail guy has no e-mail. that just tells you and that's the same guy who cut a deal with the fbi for immunity. there's clearly something here worth following up on. >> let me is you two questions. the first one relates to trump university. there's a couple of tough stories that detail the
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accusations against trump university. some of them coming from former employees. is there anything in those stories that you find troubling with respect to your nominee or presumptive nominee? >> not at this point, john. again, i think right now you've got an ongoing litigation and i'm not involved in that. i don't know all the facts. nothing so far suggests that mr. trump was personally involved in this. >> when you read those stories of form eer trump employees describing it as a scam saying they were defrauding students, that doesn't set off alarm bells for you politically? >> sure. i don't like those stories if that's what you're asking. no one in politics likes negative stories about candidate on their side. of course, we don't go great, there's a story in the new york times or the post about this.
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this question becomes they're involved in litigation right now. is it a disgruntled former person. they are not happy with something and they're suing. it's always a balance. there's going to be plenty of people with negative things to say. >> all right. let me ask you the second question is about mr. trump, yesterday, this his press conference attack the media in a pretty thorough going way and a pretty personal way saying some pretty nasty things about individual reporters. you're a communications professional and also a very pleasant man. do you think it's wise, just as a matter of politics, do you think it's wise to treat them that way? >> that's not necessarily my tactic. i don't think when you look at the level of success he's had
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this politics, he had 16 candidates. everyone said he wasn't going to run and they said he wasn't going to -- he couldn't beat these individuals. emerged as a victor through earned media. for me to give him advise and tell him what's right or wrong would be a little foolish ishf. he raises close to 6 million dollar for veterans. i think he was frustrated instead of being when someone does something very charitable, there's a sense of applauding the individual for a good effort. i think mr. trump, to some degree, was upset that the level of scrutiny that's not necessarily applied to other things that when someone tries to do something of that nature come back. i understand his frustration to be honest with you that some individuals wanted to pick it apart about what day a check was cashed or whatever. instead of applauding the
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overall effort which is something all americans should be applauding helping our nation's veterans those who have earned our respect and served this country so ably. >> thanks for coming on. appreciate it. former obama speech writer up next right here from los angeles, after this. don't let dust and allergies get between you and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. so you can seize those moments, wherever you find them. flonase. six is greater than one changes everything. because my teeth are yellow. these photos?
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>> talks about president obama's role in the november election. tell us what you think that's going to be. i know you think it's going be a good thing. >> i don't think it's going to be a bad thing. >> give the contours of what your argument is. >> he's throughout in elkhart. pretty thing the one thing hillary hasn't had behind her is a united party. she hasn't been able to have obama. everyone else making the case for her. once california is over and the primary is over, she'll have the whole party behind her and obama will be an asset because he's at 52, 53% approval rating. it usually helps a candidate of the same party. i think the case obama will make is a case he's made even before trump's candidacy existed. >> he's good as a campaigner.
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he's a great candidate. he didn't love being a candidate. he likes governing better than campaigning, you agree with that, right? >> i think so with the exception he likes making the case. he likes being on the stump and making a story and telling case. >> you think he will not only be a asset but enjoy doing this? this is like something he's got to bit between his teeth and go out and do it. >> i think he's been itching to do it. it acts as cap on his eight years in office. these next or six or seven months will be his chance to make the case for hillary and his own presidency and the vision that he spoke about since he's been on the stage in 2004. >> now on the time on "with all due respect" where i pour twitter hate. what is donald trump's campaign slogan? >> make america great again. >> what is hillary clinton's? >> stronger together.
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>> that's relatively new. what do you think of that? >> i think people put too much into it. no one thinks donald trump is where he is because of his slogan. i think all of this stuff is way overrated and what's much more important is the case you make. >> there's a debate going on now whether she should be spending as much time as she started to going after donald trump, whether she should spend more time building herself up. obviously it's false choice. should the balance be a little more towards talking about her policy. we talked about bane and the negative stuff. i think she will probably do that between now and the convention.
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the convention will be the time where she makes the positive case. >> this is the democratic strategist view of races is they are decided before. do you think the clinton campaign is geared up with their research, target-rich environment from their point of view to put donald trump away before the conventions? >> i don't think put him away but they will unload quite a bit. >> by the time you got to the conventions against mitt romney, there wasn't a single person the obama campaign who thought you would lose. >> right. >> every day people brought in the data and said we're going to win. do you think the clinton campaign would be in that position? >> it could. it all depends what happens when the primary is over. >> president obama gave a really couple important speeches in his rise. most democrats i know think the
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convention speech for hillary clinton will matter a lot because she's got various problems that she's got to try to remedy in terms of how people see her. she's got a chance to introduce herself even though she's well known, this will be a big moment speech of her life. if she called you and said you've written some big speeches, help me think through how to approach this speech. >> i think she needs to think about what is her vision for the country and how do you talk about that in way that it is an implicit contrast with donald trump's vision. you can't just make a positive case and say here is my laundry list of ten policies and by the way, that guy sucks. the case that you're making has to be both why you're the one to lead the country and why he isn't. you have to do both of those things at the same time. i think you'll need to have some bio in there. she'll need to re-introduce herself to the country, talk about her accomplishments in the
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last eight years and what's the unfinished work of the obama presidency. >> have you heard her give a speech that she has an oracle greatness in her? >> she's stepped up on the national stage of conventions. >> she said some speeches that have been good. she's done some on race, criminal justice that have been quite good. >> when she gets into a policy topic, it's quite well. >> what are they doing well now? >> what is the trump campaign doing well? >> they've had a rough couple of weeks. if donald trump was disciplined and focused only on i represent change and she doesn't, i think they would be doing okay. >> there's nothing they're doing right now that you think is any good? >> i think his lack of discipline is sort of overpowering any other kind of
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message they have. when there are bad things in the news, yesterday the trump university stuff started to come out and he was able to get that out of the news by going crazy on a bunch of reporters at a press conference. if you call that waa win, i gue that's a win. >> who is the smartest person she could pick as a running mate? >> that's a good question. >> the clock is ticking. >> i think elizabeth warren. >> kwhawhat's the case for elizh warren? >> she can take on donald trump. she makes a positive case for a fair economy this a really smart, sharp way. >> maybe solves a bit of sanders problem for her. >> i think so. >> really good to see you especially in the flesh.
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got questions about who will win in california, what hillary clinton will say in her speech or what the mascot is for trump university. here so help us answer those questions is christina bellatoni and phil rucker. we're always happy to be out here in your state, my home state. a state we love to visit. what is going on here in this democratic race? give us the state of play. >> it's all over the place. the biggest question is which voters decide to show up on tuesday. in a los angeles county alone, we've had 235,000 new registrants just this year. 61% of those people are under the age of 2037 you hear that statistic and think that's a
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bunch of young people that will vote for senator sanders. you don't know they're going to show up. in california it's more complicated we allow independents to vote but they have to ask for a democratic presidential ballot and sometimes that's complicated. we have polls all over the place. we have one coming out on friday. i can't give any exclusive details out yet but these polls are all over the map. we're see fging if a lot of independent voters show up, he could win california. it's possible. >> phil, you've been writing a lot about a lot of different things, but you wrote about hillary clinton and her challenger. explain what the thesis of that story is and talk about it a little more. >> she's trying to talk about how she would bring change. she would be the first woman president. she's struggling to convince voters that she will be the kind of change agent they want in
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washington. that's one of her vulnerabilities of donald trump who will change things more than many voters would want. she's trying to figure out how to become that credible change agent this voters' minds. >> what kind of things is she doing, is the campaign doing to get a peace of the change account? >> well, they're doing some subtle things. they're talking a lot about the way she would change certain policies. they talk about certain labor laws, paid leave is one example, one really popular issue out there. she's talking about how she would bring a new kind of thinking to the white house. her surrogates talk a lot about her as the first woman president. that motivates a will the of women voters. the polling, she out performs donald trump on so many measures from temperament to experience to judgment to issues. it's that issue of change where trump beats her. that could be an achilles heel if trump were to maximize it to
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his benefit, which he's not yet been able to do. >> what issues seem to matter to california democrats this year? >> we raised the minimum wane to $15 an hour over the next several years. voters like that. they're starting to feel optimistic about the economy here but the climate is huge issue. donald trump's speech last week where he talked about more drilling really resonated here in california. a lot of people are saying they don't like that. that's not the message they want to hear from a republican. our republicans are more moderate tend to side with governor jerry brown on these types of issues. >> we don't know what's going on. it's tough to tell. looks like the race is pretty close. two people are mentioned. whether you think they matter is
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hillary clinton's fortuneses he. >> he's pretty liberal. he's along sanders mentality on a lot of things and said so much in his open letter to democrats. he's very popular right now. even republicans like him. a lot of trump voters like him we found in our last poll in late march. >> the second name is bill clinton. >> i think it helps in volume. when ever you can have two different people campaigning in opposite parts state. it's a big state. it doesn't hurt. he doesn't have as much as the glow he did in 2008 at the beginning, but it doesn't hurt. they are getting crowds, just not sanders size crowds. >> this question that looms, regardless of the outcome in california, what bernie sanders and hillary clinton do
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day-to-day forward. does it depend on the outcome of the california primary? >> i think it depends a bit on the outcome of the california primary. sanders will have to go home and decide what he wants to do. does he concede defeat or does he wage a fight to the convention in philadelphia? i think hillary clinton wants to be able to pivot 100% towards donald trump and talk about the general election. i think it's on sanders to decide how gracefully he'll exit the stage. >> compare this to 2008, you and i were on the plane together after barack obama clinched the nomination and he and hillary clinton did not speak for 24 hours and that had the secret
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meeting at diane finestein's house. it took them about a day to unify. all the super delegates will take a look at what happens in california. if she has a big loss that could put a pause on things and make people say let's hold off for a minute. >> what is senator sanders had in this state working with him. >> a lot of hollywood stars, his top endorser is a former l.a. city council member. she has every single member of congress that's taken a position. there's only three democrats who haven't. one of them is nancy pelosi who are staying neutral. the others are staying out of it. barbara lee being one of them. surrogates aren't everything, bub they don't hurt. for her, they know where to win. they know which neighborhoods to
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go into. they are out there organizing offices for her, making sure the coalition show up. >> the fact he's fighting a clinton and one-seventh of the people live in this state, head to head, toe to toe in a tough situation. very tough achievement. >> he's going to places that have never seen a presidential campaign. >> police where is there aren't television stations. thank you both for being with us here today. when we come back, you'll have to pardon or french, after this. you owned your car for four years, you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs... you're like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls, and you break into your happy dance.
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it depends which household you're talking about. it could be the bill crystal household. he's been talked about all day on the news and as a presidential candidate, we decided to dig into the archives to find out a little more about this writer/lawyer and possible future president of the united states. >> david french, the prides of tennessee. >> you have kenny chesney beat best body in nashville? we'll ask anyonancy. >> i think i need to join the army and go to iraq, and she said but you're old. >> so he joined up. >> i felt a conviction i couldn't keep supporting war i wasn't willing to fight myself. >> back home he joined the political fray. he is an attorney who represents groups targeted by the irs. >> this is not just one person. this is a systematic problem.
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>> and as a writer for national review. >> i'm far more hateful than pamela gueller. americans answer bad speech with better speech. >> he went where others wouldn't. >> david, first of all, let me say thank you for having the guts to be here. we reached out to some republican legislatures and they wouldn't defend the flag. >> i want to teach history. >> he isn't new to the battle against trump. >> not once in the last 20-plus years been fighting for conservative values and we said thank god donald trump is with us. >> david french, beard, no beard, game changer of the week. >> so, he's pretty good presence on television. not overwhelming. you see there on the issues he's
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dealt with why a lot of conservatives are attracted to his resume. it fits with the heart of the anti-trump movement. >> he's appealing to some conservative intellectuals like them. he's done something like some of them haven't done like having been in the military. you can't say enough about how he seems like a perfectly admirable human being. you can't say enough so say hesitate just much too obscure and maybe a little too small. i mean just not in terms for his ability to fill a screen, to be the kind of person to stand toe to toe with domnald trump and hillary clinton. if they could have gotten a bigger name, they would have gotten one. >> if he ends up not running or
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if he ends up running but not being a serious person, he may get some small number of symbolic vote, but it will put a lot of people in touch position whether they vote for donald trump or vote for hillary clinton. >> we're getting pretty fast to the point for those who said they will do it because hillary clinton is too great a threat. all those people have made the move and people who are left are those really choosing between voting for hillary clinton and holding their nose and abstaining. i imagine a lot of them will abstain. >> i think members of congress will still be for trump. when we come back, a super group with a super new political message, after this.
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out in l.a. is there's a fnew super group in town. they have come together to start a new super group, it's called profits of rage. they had their debut at the whiskey. we were out there listening to the show and talking to them about what they plan to do going forward especially this summer at the republican national convention in cleveland. they will disrupt that place. we talked to them last night and have an exclollusive first look at profits of rage and their message. >> martin luther king said there's no hotter place in hell than for people who remain neutral in times of moral conflict. this is a time of moral conflict. we're escaping the hot pit of hell by bringing some rock and roll, hip hop fury. ♪
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>> we'll show you that entire peace tomorrow on this show. go to bloombergpolitics.com to see what donald trump is telling people. >> coming up, hardball with chris matthews. hillary flunks donald on trump u. let's play hardball. hillary clinton donald trump hard today. clinton called the republican nominee to be a fraud who took advantage of vulnerable americans and that's her line of attack. trump shows no
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