primary contest. follow the show online and on facebook and twitter. stay ahead with us. craig melvin is up next. >> we start at this hour of breaking news of the gunman involved on that shooting at this time yesterday at ucla. police chief is now saying that gunman had a kill list. right now we are waiting on two new conference of the la police expected to hold a news conference and another news conference in minnesota. nbc's scotty shorts is joining me now. i understand that you are raigh now head toed to that lapd conference. >> reporter: right now we are headed to head quarters.

they're very alarming. guy, i have to cut you off here. this conference is starting early. >> we are trying to coordinate our efforts between minnesota and california with this investigation which is really complex. in addition, it is a sensitive issue that we are investigating and we are early in our investigation. so it is going to be limited information that we are able to provide to you at this time. >> what i can tell you this morning after midnight, lapd had called our police department requesting on a welfare check indicated this was related to the recent ucla shooting. the female lived at this address was on a hit list created by the shooter at the ucla incident. officers responded and made a

welfare check where they did locate the adult female of a gunshot wound. there is again very limited information i can provide beyond of what i have told you at this point. it is early in the investigation but i can tell you is we have multiple detectives working on this case and we are working los angeles police department to coordinate our efforts. >> i do not. >> any early indications on how long this woman's body was inside that house? >> what i can tell you is we believe at this point that she was deceased prior to the u.s. cla shoc

u.s. -- ucla shooting. because of the timing, we don't know at this point. >> no other calls this week. >> the answer is no and previous to that, i don't know -- i can tell you as this information is unfolded the next couple of days, we'll work hard to get it out to you as quickly as possible. again, i want to thank all of you for coming today and that'll end the press conference. thank you. >> all right, there you have it. news conference in brooklyn park, minnesota, just knonorthw of minneapolis. we heard the spokesperson tells us shortly after midnight they got a call at brooklyn park, they found the woman who's been

killed and they found out that the woman was on a hit list belonging to the shooter who's been identified as mainak sarkar, he's the 38 years old graduate student who opened fire at this time yesterday on the campus of ucla. we can tell you and we have guys with us and we can tell you that sarkar drove from minnesota to the los angeles area and shot his former professor. all of this according to officials and scotty shorts is -- scotty, let me bring you back to the conversation, what more do you know? >> that's right. last week's check, lapd is still looking for that car.

possibly used in the gunman to ucla to shoot his former professor. we know that lapd called minnesota police last night, basically they found a hit list that a woman in minnesota was on that list, they wanted police to go check to see if she's okay. when they went to check, they found her killed of what appears to be a gunshot wound. the ucla has a stocked pile of ammunition as well. the woman killed, believed to be sarkar's girlfriend. all of this is happening right before finals. it is a large campus of 40,000

kids are all put on lockdown in the engineering department. classes have been cancelled for today. classes is continuing throughout ucla. a lot of students found out there was a kill list and somebody else was kill by this former graduate student who may have also worked at ucla. very unnerving details coming to light and we are expecting to get more at this press conference at lapd head quarters in about 20 minutes. >> all right, gaddy, thank you. we'll come back to you in a minute. lets turn down to politics. hillary clinton is expected to pound donald trump next hour during our policy speech in san diego. trump getting into his tweet.

"bernie sanders was right when he said crooked hillary clinton was not qualified to be president because she suffers from bad judgment." the latest back and forth between the two candidates of the last 24 hours. >> i will be honest, she has no natural talent. >> donald trump himself is a fraud, he's trying to scam america, the way he scans all those people. >> she's one of the worse secretaries of states. >> issues after issues. we see someone who's unqualified and unfit to be president of the united states. >> clinton's speech coming at a time between the two candidates are running neck and neck. recent polls given both of them lead. one major advantage i is -- president obama's approval

rating are ings are up and he's after trump. it would cost taxpayers billions of dollars and it would be impossible. president obama just last hour in that commencement address at the air force academy, three reports on the cost back and forth as well as the democratic race that's not ending just yet. kasie hunt is in san diego, that's where donald trump is holding a rally tonight. kasie, let me start with you, what are we expecting to hear? >> reporter: well, craig, we are expecting that hillary clinton is going to try to cast donald trump as being unfit to be commandeering chief, her aid jake sullivan who helped write this speech talking about how it is not just policy but an attempt to draw that contrast and to start to set donald trump

out, not a normal candidate, the american people should not trust to be commandeering chief. the hillary clinton and campaign gave us this video this morning, take a look. >> we have to be unpredictable. >> would you rather in a sense from -- japan to have nuclear weapon. >> all of those comments designed to show why they believe donald trump should not be commandeering chief. the challenge, of course, for clinton here is she's still running in this california primary against bernie sanders and her own record in many ways

hawkish. so far, she kept her quality occasions some what on the back burner for that reason, craig. >> kasie hunt for us there. katy turning to you. just so happen that trump has earned bad press in the recent interview with hollywood reporter, trump did not know the term breks it. how is he preparing these attacks? >> we do expect to talk more about it tonight in san jose. he's hammering her on everything he can especially her record as secretary of state, bringing up libya and benghazi and claiming also that he said nothing about whether the u.s. should go into

benghazi and saying she's lying when he says she was talking about it. take a listen. >>. >> benghazi and libya is killing thousands of people and nobody knows how bad it is and we are sitting around and have soldiers all over the middle east and we are not bringing it in. we should go in and stop this and it should be easy and quick. we can stop him from doing it and save these lives. >> it is another example of donald trump trying to rewrite his own history, saying he never said something when there is video evidence of him saying the exact opposite. he did it also to a degree of his comments about the evasion of iraq. he keeps on saying over and over again that he was also against the invasion of iraq but there are a number of interviews that

are out there which shows he's not so much against it and soft on the idea going into i raraq not firmly against it. donald trump has to contend it. hillary clinton is expected to hit him hard when it comes to that. >> kasie hunt and nbc's katy tur. >> we gotten a big source from donald trump, "crooked hillary clinton, who i would love to call lyin' hillary is getting to totally represent my policy." >> former governor of new mexico also and msnbc's contributor, always good to see you. there is this feeling among a lot of folks on the left that hillary clinton is a hawk when it comes to foreign policy.

given her record, is that an accurate assessment? >> no, i think she's national security conscious and a progressive. tough national decision that you need as a commander chief, she made them. she did the benghazi and israel negotiations successfully and she completed the negotiation table. she restored our eye licensalli europe. we are not just electing a president. this is life and death and national security. donald trump has shown to be consistent in his youth but dangerous, he's a bully and he does not know foreign policy. and she shifts his position. in any of the policy positions that he's taken.

nuclear weapon and talking to north korean and in sasulting t british prime minister. >> you did not mention the rise of isis and benghazi which also happens during her watch as secretary of state. how is she going to defend her position. >> on libya, this was a collective decision involving nato and the united states. the object was to stop the tragedy and americans was killing all kinds of humanitarian disasters there. we needed to intervene and that happened. it is messy but i think those are the tough decisions that need to be made on benghazi. she's been cleared of any kind of mistakes that took place there by even the congressional committee. i think that what we look at is

somebody that can trot into the situation room as hillary clinton can do with foreign policy experience and with knowledge and with a temperament. the reality is president obama was the ultimately one that made a lot of decisions which in the long run had been correct. >> former government bill richardson. we wish to more time with you, sir. thank you always. >> coming up on "meet the press." former chief of staff leo leon panetta joining chuck todd on "meet the press." here is today's pulse question. will hillary clinton's attacks on donald trump's foreign policy make a difference?

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trump university and better business bureau, what can you tell us about that? >> when this was brought up, trump's university added a debate of fox news debate. he did not care of the ranking that trump university had which is a d. in fact, that is not the case. documents released of this lawsuit out in california showed that he waited for a year and a half long campaign to boost the rating. it was boosted and it goes to show even back before the presidential candidate, this was a problem. >> he's called out the judge in this case and a couple of occasions saying that he's a political hacker among other things. eric sneiderman was on air this morning on "morning joe." this was what he said about trump's role.

>> he had the videos of him making these false cases. he was clearly in charge of pitching these unit peopversitye and saying things like come to the weekend seminar. you can get rich doing that, that is essential. >> first of all, trump's response to that assessment and how do you think that his response moving forward? >> i think this is a problem for him. obviously, the lawsuit itself and the charges is damaging. he tried to really proactively rebut them as you saw from the video. he's been going nuts on twitter today talking about once this lawsuit is dismissed, he's instructing his staff to reopens trump university. this is the problem. your whole business model is marketing and it is slapping

your name on this thing and attesting them and vouching to them. when things go wrong, it is reflective of you and your values. what we saw this week and a little bit of last week. trump is no longer able to just pivot away from bad news story and thises t whether we did not see of the temperature primary when he was able to quickly change the subject when it was on something that was bad and not so with these two stories. >> chief investigators reporter there, ken vogel, tauit is alwa good to see you my friend. state of disaster in texas, the state is swamped with another round of devastating rain. some areas racing for several inches an hour. a state of disaster has been declared.

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we see someone who's unqualified and unfit to be president of the united states. >> hillary clinton, she lies. >> he has attacked our closest allies and said lets pull out of nato and praised the dictator of north korea. >> her libya invasion was d disgusting. at 3:00 in the morning, she will answer the call, guess what? she was sleeping like a baby, don't wake me up. hillary clinton and donald trump, yesterday of a pregame warm up to clinton's major policy of what's going to happen the next hour. clinton we'll be told highlighting her ideas and credential while painting donald trump as a threat to national

security. our latest polls show more than 50% voters saying that clinton is a better candidate on foreign policy. >> 121 members signed the leaders. one of those who signed those letter is the -- i talked to him last hour about his specific worries regarding trump. >> colonel thanks so much for joining me this afternoon. you voted for republicans all your entire life and this time you are roti voting for hillary clinton, why not trump? >> i could be senator sanders but presumably hillary clinton.

donald trump lacks the character a and foundation to be the president of the united states. and macro economics to succeed by his own admission, he gets his information from shows. as a result, his policies, would reduce america standing in the world. he would unravel america's e alliances. he would alienate many america's long standing allies. he cannot be trusted on the nuclear trigger. he has no business being anywhere near the highest office in the land. you know he does not support free trade which is long standing of economic principles and he would diminish america's moral standing in the world. every sense he's unqualified to be president of the united

states. i cannot support him, therefore, i need to support someone that can be president of the united states and that'll be a democrat. >> donald trump of his foreign policy speech of his own a few weeks back as we look ahead here of hillary clinton's speech in california. trump has given other insights of how he views the world and america's role in the world. this is some of what he has said starting with isis. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. they ask me, what do you think of bombing? i love it. we are protecting the 28 countries of nato. we have put up so much money to protect other countries. they got to start paying for this protection. >> a number of dinner parties where this is the argument. so he's blustering. he said something that sounded

ridiculous but when he gets in office, he will surround himself with really smart people just as he's done in business, what's the use of that idea? >> he can surround himself with all the people he wants to but in the end, he needs to make those decisions. is it going to be gut instinct which it will be the case, he will shoot from the hips or the last person who comes in and see him and the last person that comes in and see him through the oval door. he does not have the core principles that would allow him to make decisions based on reason analysis of what's going on in the world. therefore, -- just take the first two things that you air there. both of them are war crimes. mass bombings civilian as and torture. he has no business being in the oval office. >> why do you think the argument

that you have looead out here. why do you think those arguments not resonated with this. >> people supporting donald trump, they want a strong leader. they view him with a strength getting things done. policy arguments have gone one way or the other and they don't care about the policy arguments and they care about the person and they view him as someone who they think can shake up washington, an outsider who'll make america great again. i disagree with them i don't think that's the case. that's why i am speaking up. >> this is what donald trump said yesterday. it is a pre-buttal. >> so our decision on syria and iraq and iran making the middle east more dangerous ever than

before and you know that. she went to sleep when her ambassador was voted. she went to sleep. >> what do you make of clinton's judgment? >> you know the only allegation there that sticks is the decision to support the libya rebels which i think is a mistake. if we wanted to do that, -- but, look on syria, supported army rebels way back when the civil war there began and bob gates who was secretary of defense and one of which is republicans. she's made tough calls and she was over ruled by the president. you have to realize, the president made the decision and she was not the president. she gave her best advice and in

one case it backfired miserably. as a result, she has the background and the judgment to be a good president. i think she has learned from her mistakes in this regard. >> you sound like you make about good surrogate, do you plan on campaigning for hillary clinton since she gets the nomination? >> i will remain an independent voice. i will be less effective as part of her campaign. i am going to remain my own voice in this debate. >> colonel, thank you for your time. >> up next, an hour away from hillary clinton's foreign policy speech in california. the stage is being set literally. she's expected to deliver her most voice full condemnation yet of donald trump's foreign policy. we got our eyes on that. we are waiting for a news conference in los angeles right now as well as we are expected

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racing to california. maybe they see this campaign is not quite over. [ cheers ] i believe we got a real shot to come out of the convention with the democratic nomination. >> the total delegate tally for hillary clinton right now, 2316 and that includes super delegates. she needs 67 more to become the democratic presumptive nominee. >> new jersey has gotten a lot of -- a loss though in california would look bad. it would look back for the clinton campaign and it should shift the momentum to sanders as well. chris jansing is covering the sanders campaign. chris, this is our msnbc's wall street journal showing of the two-point lead. how is the campaign able to close the gap?

>> good question. it was a 11 point in january. he's practicely living here and they believe by the time people go to vote in california on tuesday, he will been before 250,000 people and take a look at the people in line. they represent what those polls of msnbc on the field polls show. he's really far ahead on people under 40. he continues to push hard and it is really interesting when you take a look at these bernie people, among them -- take a listen. >> even if he wins, he won't have the delegates. i know the campaign pushes back against that but the numbers are really against him. >> if you talk about super delegates and some of them already changed. >> it will need to flip about 300 super delegates.

>> well -- it would be unprecedent especially so many of them are lobbyist. nobody is talking about this indictme indictment, what happens to that? and the trust issue? >> we don't know that. >> we don't know if he's going to get the numbers either. >> in bernie sanders is not the nominee, you don't know if you would support hillary clinton? >> i would feel it is very hard for me to send that message that i give her permission to use my taxes also because she's such an interventionist. she said she learned her lesson in iraq and then there goes syria and honduras. i don't want my kids to be in danger like that. >> reporter: they're also energized by the fact that she's having to come back to california that the race is so

close. one thing that's not working in their favor, the fund raising network that hillary clinton put out yesterday. acknowledging they are softer than they have been in recent months but they say they have enough and enough to go through the convention, that has no change, craig. >> that's fascinating of hearing from susan saying of the indictment is inevitable. >> reporter: again, i pushed her on that. the bernie people believe that there is something lingering out there despite of the polls show of distrust of hillary clinton that could be problematic for the democratic party. they have been using that as an argument, an argument that you will never hear from senator sanders. he's has not gone strongly after hillary over the last week or so. >> good standing in california.

as always, we continue to keep an eye on breaking news out in west coast los angeles. police are about to hold a news conference there with connection of that shooting at the ucla campus. they believe that the gunman had a kill list and also the gunman had killed the woman in minnesota as well.

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police telling them they found this hit list and a woman in minnesota was on the list. they wanted police there to see if she was okay. when they checked, they found her murder. the ucla mainak sarkar had a stocked ammunition, he had at least two handguns and the woman was found killed and believed to be sarkar's girlfriend. >> gaddy in los angeles for us. the news conference is set to start any moment and president obama is at the air force academy graduation right now. the commandeering chief weighing in on the candidates who wants to replace the 1600 in pennsylvania. that's next. it is. u're all set to book a flight ing your airline credit card miles. and surprise! those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, making it really hard to book the flight you want.

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that news conference in los angeles is under way right now. this is l.a. police chief.

let's listen in. >> where additional information was located which led local authorities to a nearby town where a female was located in a residence with a gunshot wound causing her death. we believe sarkar to be the suspect at that time in that homicide and are working with minnesota authorities to close that case. we believe that sarkar came to the l.a. area very recently, within the last couple of days. he traveled from minnesota in a 2003 gray nissan sentra. license plate number is displayed right here, 72-ktw. we are still looking for that vehicle. we believe that vehicle will be unoccupied. we do not believe there are

outstanding suspects. but we also believe that vehicle may contain evidence which will help us to establish motive and put some pieces together in this case. case is ongoing. one of the pieces of evidence that i discussed today was that in the search of sarkar's residence in minneapolis, a list was located that had professor klug's name on it. another ucla professor's name on it, and the name of the female victim that was later located in the nearby town. and we -- that list has been described as a kill list. that was the wording that was put on it. and that was what led us to the residence in the nearby town. with that, i will answer questions. one at a time. i'll answer them. >> the girl's name -- >> i will not confirm the names

of either the young lady that was killed in minneapolis or the name of the professor who survived who was named on the kill list. that is not my investigation in minneapolis. i don't know if they've made proper notification to family. so i will not confirm or further elaborate on the identity of that victim. >> any idea when the minneapolis killing may have happened? >> within the last couple of days we believe. >> so presumably she got shot and he drives out here? >> that's what we believe. >> is there any reason to believe that he committed any other crimes while he traveled across the country? >> we are looking to that. there is no immediate evidence that would suggest that. that is one of the reasons that we want to find the car to see where that will lead us. robbery-homicide decision is working with the states between here and there to see if there is a trail. but there's nothing that leads us to believe that at this

point. kate, you had a question? >> so he lived in minuminneapol he lived in the suburb of minneapolis? >> so she lived -- he lives in st. paul and she lived in an adjoining city. >> is there any indication that the professor that was killed, did he contact anybody, authorities, lapd, ucla police, colleagues, anybody on campus to say, this guy was a loose cannon and careful? >> dave, we don't know that at this point. i will say that in the social media that i have reviewed and i haven't heard anything different from the detectives, there were -- contained no death threats. there were some harsh language. was certainly nothing that would be considered homicidal. you know, i know that this individual had -- sarkar, our

suspect had issues with his professors that were known to them, but i don't think that is a cause for somebody to believe that they're going to be a homicide target. >> so there was nothing he could have done? even if he thought it didn't meet the threshold to have some kind of protection from somebody? >> the stuff that we have seen would not meet that kind of threshold. that doesn't mean there isn't something that we won't discover later. >> was it -- >> pardon me? >> what was in the -- [ inaudible ] >> it was the address that we followed up to in st. paul. it requested that whoever found the note check on the cat that resided there and then it also had some verbiage relative to the -- to the surviving professor. >> chief, can you -- i was going to ask you that same question. on a different note. the threats that were made -- the comments that he made online about this particular professor,

do you have any indication that ucla was aware of those and was taking any sort of action? >> i don't know that. >> do you know the relationship between this woman and -- >> you know, i can't do that because i think it would too quickly lead to her identity. this is very much an agency outside los angeles police department's investigation. i don't know where they stand with notification of next of kin. i don't know where they stand with the other pieces of investigation they need to do. so i don't want to compromise that. >> family member -- >> i won't characterize. >> was the other professor named in the note, was that professor on campus and was there any indication that he intended to kill and then go after that second professor? >> well, we believe -- detectives believe and i support their belief that he went there to kill two faculty from ucla. he was only able to locate one. the second faculty member was

off campus according to information we have at the time that he arrived. i didn't mention this, but i'll mention it now. he was heavily armed. sarkar was heavily armed. he had two semi-automatic pistols, one that he used for the homicide, the other was in his backpack. he had multiple magazines of ammunition and multiple loose rounds of ammunition. he was certainly prepared to engage multiple victims with the ordinance that he had at his disposal. >> if so, has there reaction been any indication what the motive would have been -- >> we certainly have talked to that professor on multiple occasions now. made sure -- a, to make sure he was safe. be, to make sure he was notified. i won't -- i will characterize his response as the fact that he

knew this sarkar had issues with them. i don't think he knew it would rise to the level of homicide, but he knew he had issues with them. i would assume by his -- by his reaction that he may have known there was issues over this property right thing. >> it's been characterized as a suicide note and a kill list note. are they the same note? >> two different notes, two different locations. the note that was left at the homicide scene doesn't refer to suicide. it is note, an instructional note to the finder to go check on this cat, which we did. and then it also has some verbiage later to the -- to the other potential victim, the professor that survived. and then in the follow-up investigations to st. paul, the investigators, fbi agents working in concert with the robbery-homicide division