clinton and sanders have been hitting the campaign trail hard in recent days. >> i know we've never done this before. we've never had a woman president. >> in virtually every state poll, we do much better against trump than does secretary clinton. >> after tuesday i'm going to do everything i can to reach out to try to unify the democratic party, and i expect senator sanders to do the same. >> the democratic national convention will be a contested convention. >> i want to finish strong here in california. it means -- it means the world to me. >> we have now won 20 state primaries and caucuses. and if all of you come out to vote on tuesday, california will be the 21st. >> so meanwhile donald trump has the republican nomination all

wrapped up. so why is he going after a federal judge? >> this judge is of mexico an heritage. i'm building a wall. i'm building a wall. i am going to do very well with the hispanics. >> so no mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you? >> he's involved in a society that's very pro mexico, which is fine. i think he should recuse himself. >> that's not sitting well with many republicans and they're doing everything they can to, well, distance themselves from those remarks. >> essentially said he cannot be impartial because he's hispanic. that's a -- is that not a racist statement? >> i couldn't disagree more with a statement like that. >> look, the comment about the judge the other day was out of left field from my mind. it's reasoning i don't relate to. i completely disagree with the thinking behind that. >> we've got all the angles covered for you this morning.

kasie hunt, hallie jackson and katy tur are all with me. kasie, you're covering the clinton campaign out in l.a. how are they preparing for tomorrow night and what are the plans for what comes after tomorrow night? >> jose, good morning. the clintons, both of them, hillary clinton and bill clinton, have been all across california over the course of the last couple of days wanting to leave nothing on the field against bernie sanders. of course the question, will it matter if she does lose to him here narrowly? polls show that it's a very, very close race here in california, 49-47 for clinton is the latest poll. the question, of course, how many independents are going to be voting potentially for bernie sanders in that election. but you've really felt, i think, on the ground here, jose, a shift in hillary clinton's favor. and it really started with that speech that she gave, hitting donald trump as unfit to be president. they billed it as a national

security speech and it really was a political speech in the end. and that really has helped coalesce democrats who maybe were worried about her ability to take on trump behind her. and it started to put more pressure on bernie sanders to bow out of this race. now, of course we've seen sanders himself have some pretty aggressive comments, insisting that he's going to stay in, but i think if she does well on tuesday night, and we expect her to clinch the nomination, you're going to start to hear more and more democrats sound like joel benenson, one of her advisers did, earlier today on msnbc. take a look. >> senator sanders said that he wants to do everything possible to make sure donald trump doesn't become president. that's going to entail supporting the democratic nominee. the party, in doing it as early as you can in helping to energize and unify the party as early as he can. that should happen as soon as hillary clinton is the nominee of the party and that will be

tomorrow night. >> publicly bernie sanders has insisted he is going to take this all the way to the convention. privately i'm told there are some pretty somber private conversations going on with bernie sanders, his family members, other people out on the trail. so some interesting texture to watch as far as what he ultimately decides here, jose. >> and, kasie, it's significant that in california, this huge state, it's still very much up in the air as far as who's going to take that. so as much as the clinton campaign wants everybody to just fall in line, there is a lot to be said for a huge state not really backing the presumptive nominee. >> well, i think, look, this is going to be close. bernie sanders has run a very strong campaign and she does have a lot of work to do with particularly the progressive base of the party. there are a lot of people who are simply frustrated with what they feel like was a coronation or something along those lines. i also think there is some realization in the bernie sanders camp that when they

started out this campaign, they felt like the main hurdle they had to jump over was one of credibility, and "the washington post" has a great story on this. they had to prove that they were a credible candidate. it turned out that he actually had a shot at winning this nomination and it was states that he lost early on and his in particular failure to connect with african-american voters and also some hispanic voters that really put him in this delegate deficit that he just hasn't been able to climb out of, despite winning all of the states that he's won. >> kasie, thank you very much. it's good seeing you. i want to turn now to hallie jackson at trump tower in new york. hallie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, jose. >> let's talk about these remarks that trump has made about this federal judge. newt gingrich called it an inexcusable mistake and far from kind of backing off from those comments, mr. trump continues to insist that that's exactly the way it should be. >> reporter: because that's what donald trump does, right?

he refuses to back down, particularly in the face of heated criticism, like what he is getting for these comments about judge curiel. you're hearing it not just from newt gingrich but from other allies, including senator bob corker, from mitch mcconnell, house speaker paul ryan, all of them speaking out about this. it has really instigated a concern among members of the party who are looking at donald trump as the presumptive republican nominee as trump tries to pivot to take on hillary clinton, who is just a day or two away from locking up the democratic nomination, getting the delegates she needs on that side. what's different about this one with conversations with sources over the last 48 hours or so, it's not the typical conservatives who are against trump who are speaking out about his comments, it's people even close to him. that said, there are those in the never trump movement who are still concerned about trump's candidacy. i want to read you a little piece from eric erickson talking

about how the leaders of the party abandoned ship for his stupid statements on rape ando boergs but the party of lincoln intends to circle the wagons around a racist. damn them for that. nbc news has learned that tonight there will be a conference call from folks within this movement after david french, the person who they put up as an independent candidate potentially, has decided not to run. they're looking at what they can do possibly in the next week or two to be able to put somebody up as an independent against donald trump. there's not a consensus that they want to coalesce around a libertarian candidate, gary johnson. it is highly unrealistic that any kind of bid like that would be successful, given ballot access rules and given where we are in this race so far, but it speaks to the real concern among some in the party that they are continuing to try to find a candidate who put up against trump. i also want to note john kasich out within the last 20 minutes or so tweeting about trump's comments, setting aside the fact

that he is obviously somebody who is a former rival of trump, he is also the governor of one of the most crucial swing states coming up in the general election, calling on donald trump to apologize. talking about how there are two paths forward, that's a slogan that he used back from his campaign days. jose. >> i'm joined now by our own katy tur who has been doing reporting on donald trump and his campaign or lack of one. good morning. >> hey there, jose. >> what did you find? >> we came up with a big article this morning, and the article basically lays out what is going on behind the scenes in the trump campaign right now. donald trump does not have a campaign, that is the title of it. that's because they have not grown their operation much at all since they got the nomination locked up. we are told that they believe new hires will be coming this week. "the new york times" reporting that they hired jim murphy to

replace rick wiley as the national political director. that would not necessarily be an addition, but a replacement in the campaign. this is all very problematic because donald trump is right now not necessarily in control of his message. the candidate himself is going on the offensive, tweeting what he feels is working for him and what has worked for him so far, mostly insults against hillary clinton and others who may disagree with him. but instead of having a real political machine behind him to spin talking points and to get his message out, they are relying on the rnc for that and they're also relying on the candidate himself. that is because they don't have much of a communications team in place. as for the judge curiel comments, that is what has been sparking all of this outcry over the weekend from the republican establishment, from even supporters of donald trump, but i'm also hearing for the first time that within the campaign there is a lot of hair pulling going on over why he would even go there with this judge, why he would do this, why he would make

this unnecessary error in his campaign. these are the things that sources say will end up sinking this candidacy if they can't get the candidate in line like this. the problem right now is mostly the candidate, but secondly it's their lack of communication staff. but they keep saying over and over again, even if they hired a rapid response director, even if they hired a communications team to fill out policy and to make sure it gets on the national stage, it wouldn't necessarily matter, because right now donald trump is only listening to himself. he's going with his gut. this was case in point the vets conference a couple of weeks ago. donald trump was supposed to come out, i'm told by sources involved in preparing these remarks, and talk about bowe bergdahl, he was supposed to talk about benghazi, hammer hillary clinton on that, hammer president obama on that hostage trade and then bring out all the money that he's been able to raise for vets and what he would do for vets if he was in the white house and what he would do for the military. instead, that press conference

became just one big attack on the media, so the positive message that was supposed to come out of it did not happen. that is extraordinarily problematic. and it's what many sources are now saying they are most worried about right now with this campaign. jose. >> on the other hand, i guess it's trump thinking that so far everything he's done has worked and no reason to change if he's now the nominee when there were 17 others that were trying -- 16 others that were trying for the job and didn't get it. >> absolutely. and that is 100% accurate. i was speaking to sean spicer, the senior strategist of the rnc, and he said that donald trump has a get out the message ability that he has never seen in politics. he can send one tweet and get 15,000 people to show up to an event when romney would have to do mailers, he would have to do radio ads, and then e ma-mails well to get a few thousand

people to an ooechbevent. his ability to get the message out is completely unprecedented and has worked so far in the primary. but right now he's going up against the hillary clinton machine, and that is where there is a considerable amount of worry that his campaign will not be able to match that and he will just be overmessaged despite his ability to drive the conversation on his end in such a unique way. >> katy tur, thank you very much. good seeing you. you can find more of this story on our website. i invite you to check it out, certainly an interesting report. thanks, katy. joining me now, national political director for the "boston globe," matt viser. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about trump's verbal attacks against this judge overseeing the lawsuit against trump university. this -- i already know the answer to this question but i'm going to ask you. this is probably going to have an impact on the general election, and possibly on the latino vote? >> yeah. i mean it's almost like with

trump there's one step forward, two steps back in terms of uniting the party. a week ago you had paul ryan, you had mitch mcconnell and a lot of people starting to get on board with donald trump and he was doing a lot to unite the party. now we're seeing a lot of these guys divert from donald trump after these comments. so i think it's doing a lot to create fear among a lot of the republicans about some of the comments and unscripted nature of donald trump. the other thing you have going on here with trump is that he's sort of saying that hispanics love him, but that this particular judge is biased because of the wall that donald trump wants to build. so it's a little bit of cognitive dissidence in some of the comments that he is making. >> that's very nice of you to say a little bit. listen, matt, here's the issue. with so much going on around the world. there were presidential elections in peru yesterday. there were elections in mexico. there's things happening all

over the world, and yet in this presidential season, what we're talking about is a candidate for the office, the highest office of the world talking about a judge who should recuse himself because he's mexican, when he's born and raised in the united states of america and he's a federal judge. that's what the conversation is? >> yeah. and i think for republicans, if you remember the autopsy report from mitt romney and a lot of his comments about self-deportation, the party really wanted to do more to reach out to hispanic voters, a growing demographic across the country and in key states. and donald trump is sort of discounting a lot of that and ruining a lot of that work for republicans and the rnc, so i think that there's a lot of angst right now within the party over the long lasting damage potentially that this does. >> let's talk on the democratic side for a minute, the final round of contests takes place tomorrow, including, of course,

new jersey and california. hillary clinton looking to clinch a big number of delegates. certainly the handful that she needs for the nomination. but sanders says it will be a contested convention. >> all indications are hillary clinton wraps this up on tuesday. but sanders and his persistence and resilience really throughout this primary is still illustrating a lot of the problems within the party of uniting and there's a lot of work to be done over the next few weeks. sanders' actions, clinton's actions i think will go a long way to proving that. but for all intents and purposes, it does seem like hillary clinton will be the presumptive nominee on tuesday night. >> matt viser, good to see you, buddy. thanks for being with me this morning. >> thank you. coming up, how the young latino vote could make or break it for bernie sanders in tomorrow's california primary. we go live to muhammed ali's hometown where fans continue to remember the champ. what we know about the memorial and the funeral plans coming up

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we're getting new details about the funeral arrangements for legendary boxer muhammad ali who died over the weekend at the age of 74. we're also hearing from the youngest daughter of the champ who talked about her father on the "today" show. >> we're sad. i personally have been sad for a long time. my father has been struggling with parkinson's disease for many years and it's not easy -- it wasn't easy to watch him suffer. so knowing he's not suffering anymore is what gives me comfort. i prepared mentally for many years that obviously one day i was going to lose my father and that time has come. i think that the whole world is

sad. anybody who ever loved him, and so many people do. so i don't feel alone. it's not just our family, it's the whole world. >> let's go to ali's hometown of louisville, kentucky. craig melvin is outside the muhammad ali center where a makeshift memorial is growing. craig, good morning to you. >> reporter: jose, good morning to you. the champ, the champ is home this morning, his body arrived late sunday night and it was taken via police motorcade from the airport to a funeral home here in town. of course they are planning quite the series of services, so to speak, here in louisville this week. i want to show you this makeshift memorial that you just mentioned, jose. you can see a number of folks have dropped off all sorts of things. flowers, artwork, boxing gloves as well. we've seen a number of boxing gloves dropped off over the past few days as thousands of folks have stopped by to pay their

respects. we've seen a number of people doing this. this is what we do a lot of, of course, in 2017. we take pictures, lots of selfies being taken here at the memorial at the ali center as well. in the past hour or so, we have learned a few more details about the funeral services. as you mentioned, there is going to be a muslim prayer service, a prayer funeral service on thursday that's open to the public. it is actually going to be held in the same arena here in louisville where ali fought his last night in louisville back in 1961. on friday, that public service as well, 2:00 over at the yum center, which is about two blocks from where i stand. we've learned that king abdullah of jordan will be in attendance, so will turkey's president as well. all of that happening after ali -- after a caravan winds its way through the streets of louisville, stopping in the neighborhood where he grew up. also going down the street that bears his name, jose. >> craig, much. and now to breaking news

this morning. nbc news has confirmed that baltimore police officer cesar goodson, who was the driver of the van in which freddie gray suffered the spinal injury has elected for a bench trial. he is facing charged of depraved heart murder which carries a maximum sentence of 30 years in murder and faces second-degree assault and reckless endanger meant. this comes two weeks after edward nero was acquitted in a bench trial. kendall coffey joins me. kendall, did the nero decision influence the decision to ask for a bench trial? >> it's possible, but if it did, it really shouldn't have, because goodson's case is much more serious. there are those who question whether nero should have been charged in the first place. but here where the general th r theory of the prosecution was that the vehicle was the murder

weapon, he was the officer driving it. by any account he's perceived as the most responsible, so his case is very different from the one where there was an acquittal at a bench trial. >> kendall, talk to me about this depraved heart murder charge. what does that mean? >> well, it means that there wasn't so much an intentional desire to kill somebody, but just an outrageous attitude of indifference to human life. so it wasn't so much that i'm going to kill this guy, but, you know, it's fine with me if he's dead. i'm out to do something and make him pay for being a difficult suspect, things like that. going with a bench trial is a gutsy call, because the general view of defense lawyers is you're much better off with a jury, that you can get somebody in there perhaps to find reasonable doubt and there can't be a conviction. but at least when you go with a

bench trial, that is to say a trial by the judge, at least you know who's going to be deciding the case. with a jury, it can be anybody. and the anybodies that would be on this jury would be from a community where there has been a lot of outrage about the death of freddie gray. >> kendall coffey, thank you very much for being with me this morning, appreciate it. right now, florida is bracing for tropical storm colin. coming up, the damage and the dangers it could bring. welcome tohe wor 26, yocan fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimid cln power. ins than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universend beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait.

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now it's not even raining, which is very nice. as you noted, up to 8 inches of rain expected so there's a real concern. the hurricane hunter planes out in the gulf of mexico snapped this photograph out the window. it's a tremendous photograph because it really suggests the power of this storm. that's a waterspout that you can see back there and they do expect possibly seeing some tornados touch down as this storm makes its way across the state of florida. with that rain also comes flooding, so there's been a sandbagging operation in various counties. people going to central locations to get their bags filled up. in some cases inmates from the local jails have been helping to fill those sandbags. bottom line, folks are preparing for something that's going to last for the next couple of days as the water goes through. remember, 8 inches of rain collects, and in two days we may actually see there's a problem. finally, one couple that was not going to let tropical storm colin mess up their plans. they're from england, and you see steph and kieron here.

they gathered on the beach and there was a momentary break in the weather like we're having right now and, yes, you can see they actually had their nuptials here on the beach. when i sdd them why did you come from england to florida to get married? they said woe came to enclosurewater for the weather. clearly they didn't have the prediction that this was going to be here. jose. >> maybe compared to london it's sunny. kerry, thank you very much, good to see you buddy. >> reporter: exactly. >> let's get to bill karins with the very latest on this tropical storm. bill, what does it look like to you? >> i was just watching where kerry's location was. in the background it looks really, really dark. if we were to check back in with kerry in probably 15, 20 minutes there's a pretty intense thunderstorm squall, probably the highest winds and gustiest winds. this is the tampa area, this is clearwater. kerry is standing where my finger is on and this huge mass of red is about to come on in over the top of him. so it will be interesting to see how they're faring in 15 minutes from now. here's where the storm is

located. all of the nasty weather is on the east side. it's sunny practically to the west side of this storm so this is very typical of an early season storm where they're kind of lopsided. the east side is where we'll get the heavy rain and possibility of severe weather. 50-mile-per-hour winds. not expecting any wind damage at all. it's going to move to the northeast and increase its forward speed so it should make landfall, whatever we're going to call landfall, but that will be over northern florida tonight. this is where we have tropical storm warnings in red. the green is where we have the possibility of flooding around 3 to 5 inches. as far as the storm path is going to go, we take it over florida late tonight. at 2:00 a.m. it's over jacksonville, right near savannah. then tomorrow morning up the coastline of south carolina. the concerns with the storm are mostly going to be dealing with the rainfall and the possibility of severe. so here's the rainfall map. 3 to 5 inches widespread tampa north ward. we'll have to watch charleston, they could get up to 5 inches. finally if we're going to have anything that's life threatening

it's going to be the possibility of tornados today. we could see isolated tornados, 10 million people at risk from savannah, jacksonville, gainesville, daytona beach, all the way down i-4 into the tampa, sarasota area. usually tornados are short-lived and usually on the weaker side but they can do roof damage and knock down trees. if it's going to be a life-threatening storm, that's the concern. >> and then lake okeechobee will see a lot of water. >> there's going to be no problems with any lack of water. we're not going to be talking drought for a while in florida. this has been a decently wet spring and we'll add 3 to 6 inches today and tonight. >> bill, thanks so much. coming up, competitors inside the ring and friends in life. world heavyweight champ larry holmes joins me to talk about his personal relationship with the late muhammad ali, next. i like the bride more than the groom. turquois dresses... so excited. did all her exes get invited?

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california's diverse electorate, but one key group can be a game-changer. with latino voter registration up 123% in california, can his campaign get them to feel the bern and show up for the vermont senator tomorrow? jacob soboroff has been chatting with young latinos who volunteer for the sanders campaign. jacob, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, jose. i think there's no doubt that young latinos are going to be showing up to go to the polls here in california tomorrow on the big tuesday election day. the question is are they going to go for bernie sanders or are they going to go for hillary clinton who reliably has done well with the latino community. in 2008 she beat barack obama by a 2-1 margin. given the fact that latinos make up a third of the voters in the state and have been registering at such a high rate, particularly young latinos, bernie sanders hopes they'll come to his side and slow hillary clinton's momentum coming out of the golden state. take a look.

time to canvas, guys, huh? >> nice to meet you. >> where are we going? >> we're going to east l.a., about five minutes up the road. >> hillary coming out and got this, that it's done. >> do you think it's a done deal? >> no, it's not a done deal. >> we're going up and you're going to talk to somebody and see if they're going for bernie. there's this perception that hillary clinton has the majority of latino support. why do you think that is. >> i think they're looking specifically at the older group of voters that has been voting throughout the elections and not considering the huge amount of latino -- young latino voters that are present in california especially. and especially the ones that have just registered. we've had 1.5 million new voter registrations in california since january. that's a huge number. >> hi, how's it going. i'm looking for elias. >> he's at work right now. >> we're volunteers with the bernie sanders campaign. we're walking around neighborhoods, just trying to get out the word for bernie to have people vote for him in the

primary. are you guys feeling the bern? >> i've heard it. it sounds pretty good. >> hillary supporters. >> that's the first one that i see. >> in this neighborhood? >> that's the first one i've seen in five weeks of canvassing. >> come on. >> i'm being serious. >> my name is marcy, i'm a volunteer with the bernie sanders campaign. >> have you decided who you're voting for yet? who is it? >> hillary? >> what about if all the young latinos turn out? >> i think a lot of the young latinos are going for sanders. i think the youngsters, i don't know why, but they're going more for that. me being an older woman, i'm going for hillary. >> who's going to win, the younger folks or older folks? >> i think the older folks are, of course. >> so just based on what you've seen, how's bernie going to do on tuesday? >> i think he's going to do good. >> especially if the young latino voters come out, and they have been saying that they are and they're the ones that have been the majority of the registrations. >> jose, hillary clinton and her

husband, former president clinton, tout the clinton support amongst the latino community in southern california, including figures like the cofounder of the united farm workers and other influential latino supporters like javier becerra. but to young latinos in southern california, some of these folks may represent establishment type firgds like you see with the rest of bernie sanders young support across the country, so what happens here on tuesday in large part will determine senator sanders' future in this campaign. >> absolutely, and going forward. look, the impact of young latinos in the voting -- of voting age throughout california and the country for november, i think, is something that we have to keep remembering is going to have a very big impact. jacob, you and i always talk about food. the next time you go to east l.a., look for caria vasquez, probably the best food around

there. look for her, it's worth the search. good to see you, buddy, take care. joining me now to talk about the impact latinos will have in california, msnbc contributor, victoria francesca soto. >> good morning, jose. >> according to pew, there are 6.9 million eligible voters in california. if hillary clinton wants the latino vote tomorrow, is that indicative of how he's going to do with hispanics you think in november, which is kind of something i was chatting with jacob about? >> it's a bit of a crystal ball, jose. we know that in california we have the largest latino population and the most eligible latino voters so it's going to give us a big clue of what november is going to look like. what the bowls have been showing is she's been doing well there. we know that hillary clinton has done really well in latino

states. he did well in texas, in new york, in arizona, in florida, so there may be a surprise tomorrow. anything can happen in this election cycle. but i do put my money if i were a betting woman on hillary clinton getting that latino vote. perhaps not in a landslide because we see sanders putting in a very strong effort on the ground in california, but i do think that she is going to win that latino vote decisively, maybe by about five percentage votes. >> victoria, when you look at some of the numbers, an uptick of 123% in california for latino voter registration, what is that due do? >> first of all, it warms my heart, jose. but what i'm so happy about politically speaking is that we're seeing a mobilization. we're seeing, i think, a combination of the political parties getting out there and doing some really good groundwork. but also mobilization out of anger. so a lot of latinos are angry at the rhetoric of the donald

trump, about the wall, most recently about justice curiel and so we're seeing that mobilized combined with the growth in the latino community. we are a very young community so demographically speaking we're exploding and we have a couple more triggers and that's going to be a huge impact at the polls tomorrow in california and then in november nationwide. >> victoria, help me translate how a lot of people in the latino community feel when they hear a candidate disqualify someone because of their past, because of their parents' heritage, because of where their parents came from? >> first word is insulting and hurtful, quite frankly. i've got to tell you, jose, i'm so puzzled by this, because one hallmark of the trump campaign has been that he is going to be tough on drugs, tough on drug trafficking, on drugs coming over our border. and if there is one person in this country who is the poster child of being tough on drug

trafficking and wanting to combat drugs and drug trafficking, it's justice curiel, the justice who trump is attacking. so it's not just insulting, but it's nonsensical. but standing back for a moment, it does make sense because we know that trump university is something that is really going to be important going into the general election. trump knows it is his achilles heel. if he doesn't nip this in the bud and attack the judge and distract from the real issue of trump university, it's going to hurt him. that's where i see these attacks coming from. not from a sensical point of view but from wanting to divert from trump university. >> victoria, always a pleasure to see you, thanks. >> thanks, jose. he stopped muhammad ali from a fourth world championship but

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the public will get to say good-bye to muhammad ali later this week. an slaislamic prayer service wi be held on thursday in louisville, kentucky, followed by a memorial service the next day. i'm joined now by boxing hall of famer and former heavyweight champion larry holmes, one of only five people to have beaten muhammad ali. champ, good to see you. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. >> i know you two were very good friends. how do you remember muhammad ali? >> well, the first time i met muhammad, i went to deer lake and my trainer told him that i was a boxer. so he held up his hand. he said show me something, hit

my hand. i hit his hand. hit it again. i hit it again. he said do you want to put an exhibition on with me. i said exhibition with you? you mean box you? he said yeah. so we drove down to reading, pennsylvania, and put on an exhibition. all of a sudden i got hit with a right hand and i got a big black eye out of the deal. and they was trying to put ice on that. no. why not? because i want to show it off. i want to let people know that i was boxing with one of the great fighters of all time. and i walked around with that black eye for a few days. people thought i was crazy to keep showing that eye off. >> i mentioned that you were only one of five boxers that have beaten muhammad ali, but you weren't very proud of that, were you? >> no, it was a money deal, that's all it was. it was ali making some money, i'm making some money. me not being embarrassed by them telling me that i was afraid of ali and we could continue to go on our way. so i was in a no-win situation.

beat him up, beat an old man. you lose, you lost, you were no good. so, therefore, i had to do what i had to do. i did it without hurting anybody because, you know, anybody seen that i was saying don't take no more punches, stop the fight. you don't need to take no more purchg punches. but ali was a man, he didn't want to quit. he would have fought me until the next day but they had to stop it and i'm glad they did because it made me feel a lot better that they stopped it. i was saddened by the idea that i had to fight a guy that got me involved in being with one of the great fighters and learning from a great fighter like him. >> tell me about how he was in the ring those days when you were fighting him. talk to me about that famous jab, just the speed that he had, which was a little diminished, but not much. >> well, let me just tell you, he was fast. in the gym he would hit you, he

would talk to you. i'm the greatest. he would talk like that. i'm the greatest. i'm bad, i'm bad. then he's like come on, show me something. you move around the ring and you hit him. he could go a whole round without you touching him. you might hit him on the arm or the shoulder or the body but you would never fit his face because he always had that pull away, that slipping and sliding around the ruing. that's what i wanted to learn. and i did learn a lot of it. a lot of people said, oh, you're just copying off muhammad ali. why not? i'm copying off one of the greatest fighters of all time. if i can pick it up, it's better for me. >> did you have -- did you get a chance to have a relationship with him after that? >> listen, up to the day he died, you know, i seen him, i talked to him. we had a lot of conversation. you know, we went places together. i mean we had a good relationship. ali liked me. i mean a lot of people he put up

with, but he don't like them. but he liked me because he would come to easton if i asked him to, which he did a few times. we were buddies. my friend. like come on over to my house, i'll come to your house. >> how cool is it to have a buddy, a friend, that happens to be the best at his craft and also someone who is beloved around the world? there was nowhere that ali could go and not be recognized, not be loved. >> that's what i loved about the whole situation. you know, i wasn't one of though guys that stood back and be jealous of his fame, his fortune. i wasn't one of those guys, i wanted to be like ali. i wanted to do the same thing and people recognize be the same way. a lot of people were jealous of the same thing, especially when he didn't go in the service. i don't blame him for not going in there. looking at the situation, i don't blame him. you cannot hate or take away what this man had to offer

because he didn't go to the service. this man was an icon, he was one of the greatest fighters. i'm going to tell you because i consider myself as one of the great fighters too, and i know i couldn't match wits with ali and he told me that from the beginning. you will never be able to match wits with me. you might fight as good with me but you'll never match wits and he told the truth when he said that. >> champ, thank you for being with me, it's a pleasure to see you, sir. appreciate your time. >> thanks a lot for having me. it's always appreciated. >> thank you. we'll be right back. we were boro into a new american century. born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. and what an amazing time it's been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. so, we say thank you america for a century of trust, for e privilege of flying higher and higher, together. ♪

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campaign trail this weekend. bill clinton has been working very hard on his wife's behalf during this presidential election cycle. of course he caused some headaches for her back in 2008, and they have been trying really hard to make sure that doesn't happen again. to see whether or not they were succeeding at that and how bill clinton is playing on the campaign trail, i spent some time with him in california this weekend. once the big dog -- >> william jefferson clinton! >> getting comfortable on a smaller stage. >> look at this guy's t-shirt, it said bill clinton for first lady. >> he's older now. >> i'd like to be 25 years old too. i was a few years ago. >> and a little bit wiser than he was in 2008 when he got himself in trouble criticizing barack obama. >> this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> this year he's campaigned for

his wife more than 400 times in 40 states, and he's kept it almost all about her. >> i hope you'll help her. >> his entourage is smaller, and so are his events. unless you're reading the local paper, you'd hardly know he jammed with a band in north dakota, tossed back some rum in puerto rico. and campaigned for just a couple hundred people in compton, bringing out those who remember the best of his presidency. >> he was the only white black president. >> but clinton himself acknowledges the general election is set to be the nastiest in recent memory. >> what does this political moment remind you of more than any other political time in your career? >> the contentiousness of it is the most extreme i've seen. when i ran in '92, i was also smashed by the republicans for a year. >> this year republicans want voters to remember bill clinton as slick willie. >> whitewater, impeachment,

lies. he didn't have sex with that woman. >> so far bill clinton has kept his cool. >> i think people are smart enough to figure this out. >> but five months are many lifetimes in politics, and donald trump isn't about to let up. >> i know what donald trump is doing. he's trying to bait bill clinton. he wants this debate. bill clinton has a tendency of taking the bait. it will be interesting to see if he can resist that temptation. >> we did get one indication that the bill clinton of old might be coming back with some comments he made just yesterday in los angeles where he talked about bernie protesters and saying he understands why they're yelling, because bernie sanders is going to be toast after election day. a more honest assessment than he's been willing to give otherwise. i also talked to him on the rope line about what happens after tuesday, and he emphasized that he and hillary clinton both endorsed barack obama in 2008

after she lost and both worked very hard on his behalf. so he wouldn't go so far as to say bernie sanders should get out of this race, but he did suggest what the path forward should be. jose. >> kasie hunt, thank you very much. new this morning, word that roger clinton, hillary clinton's 59-year-old brother-in-law, was arrested for driving under the influence in california on sunday. his bail set at $15,000. today we're going to find out if charges will be filed against the parents of a little boy who fell into a gorilla enclosure at the cincinnati zoo. nbc's rehema ellis is live in cincinnati this morning. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. in just a couple of hours we should find out from the prosecutor's office about whether charges would be filed but it seems unlikely. there are reports that even the cincinnati police are not recommending any charges be filed, and this despite a huge outcry on social media and following that dramatic video. those pictures you see of the

little boy being dragged back and forth in that cage by the 400-pound gorilla which led authorities to shoot and kill the gorilla. some felt the mother was negligent for allowing this to happen in the first place. the exhibit was shut down. it reopens tomorrow after some improvements, but today we find out whether charges will be filed against the parents. jose. >> thank you so very much. and that wraps up this hour of "msnbc live." thank you for the privilege of your time. tamron hall joins me now with the very latest. >> thank you so much, jose. right now on "msnbc live," inexcusable. supporters of donald trump refusing to label him a racist, but republican leaders are going public, calling out donald trump's remarks about the federal judge overseeing his case. trump is saying the judge is biased because of his race. what are the gop leaders saying? democrats and other groups

opposing the gop nominee take their fight to the steps of trump tower. we're keeping an eye on that event playing out not very far from our headquarters. and the final countdown, hillary clinton hoping to clinch the nomination by tomorrow night as she and bernie sanders sweep through california with the state's primary just hours away. and the loss of a legend. tributes to muhammad ali pouring in from all across this world as the city of of louisville, kentucky, gears up to say good-bye to its favorite son. the reverend jesse jackson will join me with a look back at ali's legacy and a tweet sent out over the weekend that's gotten so much attention. good morning, everyone, i'm tamron hall coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. let's start off with donald trump refusing to back down on his comments about the federal judge overseeing the case involving trump university. that's left top gop leaders scrambling to explain their continued support. trump's latest comment just this morning. here's what he said.