los angeles film festival if anyone is there. thank you so much for having me. >> that's actress amber tamblyn. i'm thomas roberts. be sure to tune in tomorrow night for msnbc's coverage of the last big night of the primary season starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern. my colleague kate snow will pick things up in new york right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate snow. 19 delegates is all she needs. hillary clinton is inches away from the magic number, 2,364 delegates to secure the nomination. but there's no giving up for bernie sanders, because believe it or not, the try mare season ends tomorrow. >> the issue is who is the better candidate to become president of the united states and to defeat trump. our goal is to get as many delegates as we possibly can and

to make the case to superdelegates that, i believe, the evidence is fairly strong that i am the strongest candidate. >> if comments like that ring a bell, you're not alone. think back to 2008 right around this time when the end was nye for hillary clinton's campaign against then senator barack obama. >> so when the voting concludes on tuesday, neither senator obama nor i will have the number of delegates to be the nominee. i will lead the popular vote. he will maintain a slight lead in the delegate count. the decision will fall on the shoulders of those leaders in our party empowered by the rules to vote at the democratic convention. i am in this race because i believe i am that candidate and i will be that president. >> that was june 1, 2008. important to remember her claim she had more of the popular vote was kind of symantec.

she was counting the disputed results in michigan and florida. but still, two days after those comments barack obama passed the magic number. two days after that, bernie sanders officially endorsed barack obama. and then on june 7, and i remember it vividly because i was there, exactly eight years ago tomorrow hillary clinton conceded the race. so the question today, does bernie sanders carry his campaign all the way to the convention or is this history repeating itself? as we near the finish line in what has been a long primary season, we'll check in with our team of reporter who is have been covering this race every step of the way. in just the last half hour, we heard from hillary clinton as well. so let's start with nbc's kelly o'conne o'connell, kelly o'donnell covering the clinton campaign. >> reporter: there's a lot of excitement here before the primary voting. of course, many californians

have already cast their ballot in early voting. many will also be at the polls tomorrow. so there is a sense of energy here. and we've heard from hillary clinton sort of a different tone in the place where she is now in the campaign of 2016 compared to 2008. as you were just analyzing, there is a sort of graciousness that hillary clinton is trying to use with respect to bernie sanders, in part because she knows so well that bernie sanders supporters who are still very much committed to him, energized about his chances in california, ultimately she would need to attract them. so we heard from hillary clinton today talking about how she would be of the mind to sort of let it all play out. she knows that she's on the verge of clenching this nomination and has sort of a willingness to let the votes be counted and time to go forward. but, at the same time, her team galvanizes behind the scenes to be looking toward the fall. but also california really needs

to be the first stop on a democratic unity tour if, in fact, things go as expected, that hillary clinton becomes the presumptive nominee. the sanders team will have their own argument to make. but for hillary clinton's side in talking to reporters today, she made clear she's posed to move forward but also be appropriately cautious about letting the vote play out. >> i thought we had sound of hillary clinton. do we have that sound that we can roll? >> caller: that's what i was hoping for as well. >> i'm going to wait and see where we all are after tomorrow. i am, as you rightly point out, on the path to not only have a very big lead in the popular vote but a very significant lead in the pledged delegates. and so we'll take stock about where we are tomorrow. i'm going to do everything i can to unify the democratic party. and i certainly am going to be reaching out to senator sanders and hope he will join me in

that. >> reporter: so you get the sense of the upbeat and yet conciliatory tone from hillary clinton at this point. it is much easier to be in that lane when you have the advantage of more electoral votes, more pop plular votes, rather more pledged delegates than where she was in 2008. for hillary clinton, there's room to have sort of outreach from the sanders side. let's see what happens in california and, of course, with the voting so close to public polling, here in california clinton also wants to make sure that she drives her voters to the polls. because if she can prevail in california, it makes her argument that it's time to unite behind one candidate, clinton, a lot easier. kate? >> all right, kelly o'donnell watching it, we'll keep an eye on it in california. if hillary clinton takes the stage, we'll go out there again. thank you so much. we heard a little bit of bernie sanders' press conference a moment ago but there was a lot

more to it. let's go to chris jansing covering the sanders campaign from emoriville, california, today. what more did he have to say, chris? repter: well, onward i think is the main message. that he's not going to make any decisions about what happens next until he sees what happens tomorrow in california but the other states that vote. this is consistent with what he has been saying and his campaign has been saying the last month. help pointed out again 9 million votes, won 20 states and feels good about california, the state being a toss-up and the fact he's come in january from 11 points down against secretary clinton to at least one poll in the "l.a. times" one point up. so they are ready to see what happens tomorrow. here's what he said about that period that he acknowledges will happen after tomorrow of reassessment. take a listen. >> if i win tomorrow in california, and if we do very well, and i don't know that we will, we may, if we do well in the other states, if there are

superdelegates out there who say, you know what? looking at the objective evidence of polling, looking at the objective evidence of who has the strongest grassroots campaign and can bring out the larger voter turnout, which i think is crucial for november. if some of those superdelegates begin to think it is bernie sanders, i think that that is not an insignificant value. >> so they are going to take that information and go back to burlington. he'll meet with the people closest to him, the campaign staff that has been with him forever, his wife who is his closest adviser and they will figure out based on those results what happens next. this is not just a matter of what bernie sanders wants or what his path is going forward. it will be about the conversations with the clinton campaign and whether or not he feels as he talks about all the time whether there is enough for the revolution the way he and his supporters put it to go forward. are they going to get some of the movement to the left that they want? and so even though he does plan to go to washington, d.c. which

doesn't vote for another week, i think this next week after california and the other states that vote tomorrow will be an intense period for him, for the people closest to him, and will have a lot to do with how his voters react to what happens next, kate. >> and if it doesn't go well tomorrow night, i can imagine a phone call, bernie, it's barack. i need you to step aside. >> reporter: well, there are reports on nbc confirming that the white house is looking at whether or not president obama could endorse as early as this week. and it's really interesting, we went back and we looked at the burlington "free press" newspaper from 2008. in spite of the fact that the bernie sanders argument has been passionately for weeks now that until you get to the convention you don't have a nominee, in 2008 he, in fact, two days after president obama reached that magic number, the combination of pledged delegates and

superdelegates, to secure the nomination, he endorsed him. and he made comments about that endorsement. how he was going to work for him as hard as he could to the "burlington free press." he didn't answer the question and seemed surprised to have 2008 brought up to him. but the fact of the matter is back then he did exactly what he is saying shouldn't be done, which is he endorsed barack obama before he went to the convention. and before hillary clinton had dropped out of the race. she was still running at that point. >> chris jansing, the voters have yet to speak. chris, thank you so much. we'll switch focus now to the republican side of the race. we have new reporting at msnbc today from inside the trump campaign indicating there may be some problems. sources are saying there is infighting, minimal coordination with allies and some issues with donald trump's off-the-cuff comments. the judge at the center of his trump university trial has a

conflict of interest, he says, because of his mexican heritage. yesterday trump went further to ask if a muslim judge would treat him unfairly because of his proposal to temporarily bar muslims from entering the u.s. trump relied it is possible, yes. joining me the journalist with all the reporting on the internal campaign workings, katy tur. trump called you out by name on twitter and added this tweet, i'm getting bad marks from certain pundits because i have a small campaign staff. but small is good, flexible, save money and number one. first of all, you're not a pundit, you're a reporter. so from what you're hearing, is this more than just about a, quote, small staff? >> reporter: i'm hearing from inside the campaign it is, quote, dysfunctional. and part of the reason behind that is they don't have a communications team in place. right now there is one person, or maybe two, handling the communications right now. that is hope hicks and cory ladowski, his campaign manager. that has been running

communications for ten or 11 months. it's worked so far for them. they have won the primaries and he is the presumptive nominee. now is the problem to their ability to quickly respond to negative publicity, to negative attacks on donald trump. as evidence by what happened last week after hillary clinton's foreign policy speech, it took the trump campaign quite a long time to get out and respond to that. and many saw that their response was not quite adequate. they thought they would see donald trump come out with his policies. and attacking her on benghazi and her for a number of decisions when she was secretary of state. that did not happen. instead, it was a tweet from donald trump accusing her of reading a teleprompter dly. also, when it comes to the trump university controversy, they knew in advance that a number of documents were going to be leased but did not get out ahead of the documents and said the campaign took most of the day to

respond to it. finally releasing a youtube video with three people who claim they had a good experience at trump university. and that becomes a problem because if they can't respond to it, neither can their surrogates. and then it spirals out of control and what you have then are folks like mcconnell, folks like ben sass, folks like marco rubio, newt gingrich coming out and distancing themselves from donald trump saying they don't agree with these comments and it perpetuates a news cycle. also, donors get involved. donors don't necessarily want to donate as much they would to a candidate constantly stoked in controversy. then there are those they are trying to hire for the communications statue. people who don't necessarily want to get involved with the campaign that has so much controversy outwardly. they don't feel like they want to prepare for a candidate who is just going to throw away their preparations and go with his gut. donald trump has been successful with going to his gut, going by his gut, excuse me, but they are

worried from now on as the campaign goes on and into the general election that the hillary clinton machine will be much tougher to take on, that any of the primary contenders. kate? >> you reported over the weekend with the comments about the judge and the trump university case that there were some on the team who wanted him to dial back, right? and reverse himself a bit and he wouldn't. >> reporter: absolutely. i've heard from people within the campaign who say this was too much. what is the point of doing this? it is an unforced error and they do not need the publicity or attention. i've heard from people working closely with the campaign, they are having problems with it. and as we have all seen, a number of republican leaders including paul ryan who endorsed him the day before come out to distance himself from it. so it's an overwhelming crescendo of people saying this is not a good idea. i am told they believe that donald trump will start backing off of it now but wasn't backing off of it over the weekend as late as friday when he was

giving the sunday interviews, the taped interviews for sunday, that he didn't want to back off it and appear like he was caving in. >> katy tur at trump tower in new york. thank you so much. up next, we'll pick up the same thread and talk about donald trump's most high profile supporters, several of whom were once outspoken against the republican party's presumptive nominee. but first, a bit of a foreshadowing, a 21-year-old hillary clinton, 21 years old giving the commencement address at her graduation from wesley in 1969. >> part of the problem with just empathy with professed goals is empathy doesn't do us anything. we have had lots of empathy and lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have viewed politics as the art of the possible. and the challenge now is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible possible. you show up. you s.

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>> thank you. >> to be clear, you are not a fan of donald trump. you have not yet flipped at all. this morning you tweeted, i warned you, if you embrace trump, you embrace every slur, insult, outrage, falsehood. key republican leaders this week strongly condemning his language about the judge and the mexican heritage judge involved in his case, reince priebus, newt gingrich, they are still supporting donald trump. where do you stand in all this? >> that's why hard never trump is better than a soft never trump because you don't have to carry the water. i was trying to warn these guys you won't be able to thread the needle. this is what paul ryan and others are doing. somehow you support donald trump for president of the united states but yet distance yourself from the bizarre things he says. this is a real test for the republican party. can the party of lincoln become the party of donald trump? the answer is no. and you know that it is really, really bad when newt gingrich

isn't spinning this for donald trump. but this is painful for a lot of these republicans who are trying to figure out how do we negotiate with this guy? how can we trust this guy? and i think it is dawning on them right now that donald trump is not a team player. for the donald trump loyalty party goes one way. >> trump's comments caught them off guard. he has made similar comments in the past, though. did paul ryan, you know him, you lived in wisconsin and know him well, did he make a mistake in endorsing donald trump last week? >> yeah, i think he did. i think it was inevitable it was going to happen but he made a mistake in terms of the timing and the terms. for him to come out last week after this month of behaving very badly by trump, before donald trump made a pivot to run as an adult or conservative was a mistake. also, he understand ends up

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judge for his heritage? >> no. this is one of the worst mistakes trump has made. i think it's inexcusable. >> he says that when he questions whether the judge can be fair because of his mexican her thanitage that is not racis you agree? >> look, i don't condone the comments. >> i completely disagree with the thinking behind that. >> i want to bring in ashley bell, an rnc delegate from georgia. nice to see you again, ashley. >> good to see you again, kate. >> let me ask you point-blank, what do you make about donald trump's comments that a judge may not be able to be impartial in a case involving donald trump university? >> he came on tv to say he would be prejudice against a muslim or latino possibly be on the bench. and this is disheartening. he's missing the best opportunity he could have gotten. we've had a month with him being able to unify the party and

progress his campaign, all that is wasted now. all that is wasted. hillary clinton is going to wrap up the nomination in a week and we are worse off today as a party than we were a month ago. >> let's be clear, you are an rnc, republican national committee delegate to the convention this summer. the last time we spoke you thought you were going to be backing and casting your vote basically for donald trump. you told us this morning you actually have to switch now to ted cruz, right? because of the way your district voted. ultimately, though, ultimately, what are you going to do? support your candidate, your nominee? >> i have to vote for ted cruz in cleveland. and i'm going to support the republican nominee. but i can tell you right now, donald trump is our presumptive nominee, but the comments he's making right now is a disservice to the millions of americans that supported him in this primary. they supported him because they wanted to see change happen, they wanted to not see hillary clinton in the whitehouse. he's wasting an opportunity and doing an absolute disservice to his supporters by putting his campaign into a corner and

making presence statements about judges and frankly african-americans. >> let me ask you about a comment he made on friday at a rally. this was donald trump singling out an african-american in the crowd. take a listen to the tape. >> exactly. exactly. >> we had a case where we had an african-american guy who was a fan of mine, great fan, great guy, in fact, i want to find out what is going on with him. oh, look at my african-american over here, look at him. are you the greatest? do you know what i'm talking about? >> so gregory cheetle is the man donald trump pointed out. he told nbc he's not a trump supporter but stressed he was not offended by that comment. how did you take that comment? >> you know, i don't know how he wasn't offended. any time you reference an african-american in that sort of possessive tense it's going to spark reaction. it was disheartening to hear donald trump use that

terminology. here's the problem, i want to know where the people in the trump campaign who aren't telling him these are out of line and out of character for a nominee? i have to ask myself, where is amarosa and the national diversity coalition he has. he nodes to put more people of color near him to help him understand the logistics he's using is putting himself in a hole and he's wasting the greatest opportunity anyone can get in american politics to be the republican nominee. we can't afford to have hillary in the white house but he's not doing us any favors at this point. >> ashley bell, thank you. you mentioned hillary clinton is holding a get out the vote event right now in lynwood, california, talking about tomorrow. let's listen in. >> how many of you have a ballot sitting at home that you haven't used yet? well, maybe tonight you can put it in the mail because as long as it's postmarked tomorrow it's going to count. but then everybody else, please come out and vote tomorrow on

june 7th. i have had, i have had such a great time campaigning in california. both my husband and i, we have been criss-crossing the state going from south to north and east to west because we love california. and we also -- we also believe that california represents the future. and it's a bright future, it's a positive future. i am tired of donald trump insulting americans. i am tired of donald trump talking down america. i am confident and optimistic about our future. but we're going to have to do some things like elect the right person to be president of the united states. so here's what i want you to know, we are going to work together to create more good

jobs, infrastructure jobs, our roads, our privileges, our tunnels, our ports, our airports, our water systems. we are going to have advanced manufacturing. i believe if we invent it in america we aught to make it in america. and we are going to combat climate change with more clean renewable energy jobs. california is leading the way. i want to support what you're doing and create more jobs and businesses. we're going to do more for small businesses like all of the businesses here in this plaza. we're going to help you get started and grow your small business. and we're going to raise the national minimum wage so that when you work full-time you're not still in poverty. we are going to make childcare affordable for working people. we are going to work for paid

family leave. so that you can take care of your family and do your work. and we are finally going to guarantee equal pay for women's work. now this is a problem for all women but it's a big problem for latinas. white women don't make the same amount, african-american women don't make the same amount for doing the same job. but latina women are paid even less. so this is not just a woman's issue. if you have a mother, a wife, a sister or a daughter who is working, it's your issue. and we're going to finally, finally guarantee that if you do the job, you get the pay. and it should be equal to what anybody else gets. now, everything i've just said donald trump disagrees with. he doesn't want to raise the minimum wage. he doesn't think that equal pay

is a problem. he doesn't believe in climate change. so he's not worried about creating more jobs or dealing with some of top challenges that plague this state. and when i talk about equal pay, raise the minimum wage, let's do more to make sure that women are treated equally and fairly, he accuses me of playing the woman card. if that's playing the woman card, you know what i say? deal me in! so, my friends, my friends, we're going to get the economy going again. you know, if you want the economy to work, you know you need a democrat in the white house, right? when my husband was president,

we had 23 million new jobs and incomes rose for everybody. and then we had a republican administration. and my goodness, we had the worst financial crisis since the 1930s. president obama came in, he had to dig us out of the ditch that the republicans dropped us into. and i don't think president obama gets the credit he deserves for making sure the economy got moving again. so i think we have a pretty good idea of what we need to do. we need to have a democrat in the white house next january. we need to be working together. we are stronger together. and we also need to make sure that every single child in this country has a good teacher and a good school no matter where that child lives or who that child's parents are. and i want to start with early

childhood education so every kid gets a chance to start school prepared. and then i want to work with our teachers, i want to be a good partner with our educators. so in elementary and secondary schools, we are doing the best we can to help every child no matter what the circumstances of that child might be. and then we're going to make college affordable for everybody again. under my plan, you're not going to have to borrow a penny to attend a four-year public college or university. and we're going to help you pay down your college debts. if you have student debts, we're going to help you pay them down and pay them off! i'm also going to defend the affordable health care act, which has helped so many people here in los angeles and in california. but i want to make it better and want to get the cost down. because co pays and premiums and

deductibles and prescription drug costs are going up too fast. and so i want to make sure that we continue to improve it, but i will fight against republican attempts to repeal and end the affordable care act. we want everybody in america to have health care. and there are two issues, two issues i want to quickly mention that i will also work on with your help. mental health and addiction. too many people across this country are suffering because one or the other or both. there still is a stigma, people don't want to seek help. we need more help, more resources, family members, friends, colleagues, we all need to help folks get the kind of care they should have and that means we've got to have a better system for providing it. and i intend to make that a

really high priority of my presidency. so people are not suffering and dying. and we are going to fight for comprehensive immigration reform with full and equal citizenship! i have said that within the first 100 days of my presidency, i will introduce legislation and i will start working to get it passed. and i will defend daca and dapa and stand up against the bigotry and bullying of donald trump who wants to deport 11 million hard-working immigrants. i'm proud we are a nation of immigrants. i'm proud of that. i think every american should be proud of that. so when i hear donald trump

attacking people based on their immigrant status, their religion, their disabilities, their gender, whatever top reason he attacks people, i am so upset because that is not who we are as americans. and i want to tell you, just recently he has been attacking a distinguished federal judge. a federal judge who was born in indiana. he is as american as i am and he's as american as donald trump is. and this judge was a really effective federal prosecutor. he was appointed a judge first by your republican governor, governor schwarzenegger. then he was put on the federal bench by president obama, serving with distension. and he drew a case, a case

brought against trump univers y university, which has taken advantage of hard-working people and is called a fraudulent enterprise even by the people who work there. so trump doesn't want you to pay attention to what this case is revealing. so he is attacking the judge and saying outrageously that the judge who is of mexican heritage cannot serve fairly over his case. you know, just yesterday he said, well, because of all the negative things he has said about american muslims, he doesn't know that an american muslim judge could fairly preside over a case. i'm waiting for him to say because of all the bigoted things he has said about a woman that a woman judge couldn't

preside. by the time he's finished, nobody's going to be left in this country, that he is going to have excepted from insults. we need to stop this divisiveness, this bullying and bigotry, and the best way to do it is to send a big message tomorrow that we're going to go into the campaign prepared to make the case against him like i did in san diego. and we're going to defeat him! >> hillary clinton there speaking in lynwood, california, one day before the big california primary and several other states voting tomorrow. she has two more events coming up in california. one in south los angeles, one in long beach. capping it off tonight with a big rally of fund-raising concert featuring stevie wonder, christina aguilera and others.

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this body. and, you know, i'm happy for that even though i'll miss him deeply. >> that was laila ali appearing on the "today" show speaking about the loss of her father. ali's body arrived in his hometown of louisville, kentucky, sunday night. the funeral and public memorial service will be held on friday proceeded by a public procession through ali's boyhood neighborhood in louisville. the global icon died on friday night from septic shock in an arizona hospital surrounded by family. he was 74 years old. and joining me now is long-time boxing television producer david denkins jr., the executive producer of showtime sports. and steve farhood, boxes historian and ringside analyst. thank you for being here, appreciate your time today. steve, let me start with you because you have not talked so much about his passing and what you remember as you think back. you were with him, i think, for the last two fights, is that right? >> correct. >> what are the memories and the anecdotes when you think of

muhammad ali that spring through your mind? ent >> both david and i remember him first as fans. and so many of his greatest triumphs we have may have seen in the movie theater paying to get in. and then we both worked with mohommad professionally as well. it's very important to put ali's life in time perspective. and i just remember thinking, there's never been anyone, what is this guy doing? why is he saying what he's saying? who is this guy? where does he come from? he was so original and unique. and that's inside the ring and outside the ring both. >> david, do you remember the words? does anything standout that he said to you? >> well, the first time that i met him close-up, i was a production assistant at abc. and it was before the rematch with leon spinx.

and you know this was such a big event, it was a primetime fight coming up on abc lat that week, he came in, sat down in the chair, was polite, quiet, the light went on, cosell's voice came over the ifb and he was electric. he lit up the entire room and put on a performance. and everybody that has followed him has tried to be like him in some way. he's had that kind of impression on athletes, especially in the sport of boxing. >> steve, it's interesting because those who are younger have seen him while he aged. you spent time with him promoting his book and some in the later years and it was hard to watch the decline, i think, for a lot of us and the parkinson's setting in. >> but with that said, the amazing thing about him was he had an ability to communicate without being verbally adept anymore. which is a pretty unique skill. the time i spent the day with

him at a grammar school promoting a book, these were kids in harlem who were grammar school age. they obviously didn't know him as a boxer. and most likely because of their age didn't know him at all. and to see him interact with them, you know, you can't fool kids. and it was just beautiful to see. he had that pied piper effect. you know he was enjoying it as much as the kids were. >> david, are people talking about the parkinson's and the potential link to boxing and the injuries over the years? >> people make the assumption, it's hard to say for sure. people get parkinson's that have never fought. but it certainly didn't help. it probably exacerbated the condition. i'm no doctor but conventional wisdom is that that is the case. he's a very, very tough guy. people talk about his athleticism, his power, his speed, but he was a very tough guy. and the rope-a-dope tactics and the ability to take a punch probably did not do much as far as getting past -- >> didn't do him favors in his

health. >> no, it's a tactic. you know, you try to engage that way. and when a guy punches himself out, look at the effects long-term. >> the irony is his ability to be the tough guy in the ring and outlast his opponent as you said, that made him the made him the greatest of all time. >> that's a great way to end. thank you so much for being with us. and we'll be right back after a quick break. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the untry. herethere, everywhere. united states postal service priority: you ♪

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after tuesday, i'm going to do everything i can to reach out to try to unify the democratic party and i expect senator sanders to do the same. >> that was hillary clinton on the cusp of potentially becoming the democratic nominee, hoping sanders' supporters will unite around her to defeat donald trump in the fall. and she's had someone with a lot of experience on the trail alongside her. kasie hunt caught up with the

former commander in chief as he turned to the role of campaigner in chief. ♪ >> reporter: once the big dog -- >> william jefferson clinton! >> reporter: getting comfortable on a smaller stage. >> look at this guy's t-shirt. it says bill clinton for first lady. >> reporter: he's older now. >> i'd like to be 25 years old too. i was a few years ago. >> reporter: a little bit wiser than he was in 2008, when he got himself in trouble criticizing barack obama. >> this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> reporter: this year, he's campaigned for his wife more than 400 times in 40 states, and he's kept it almost all about her. his entourage is smaller and so are his events, unless you're reading the local paper, you'd hardly know he jammed with a band in north dakota, tossed back some rum in puerto rico.

and campaigned for just a couple hundred people in compton, bringing out those who remember the best of his presidency. >> he was the only white-black president in office. [ laughter ] >> reporter: but clinton himself acknowledges the general election is set to be the nastiest in recent memory. >> what does this political moment remind you of more than any other time in your career? >> the contentiousness of it is the most extreme i've seen. but when i ran in '92, i was also smashed by the republicans for a year. >> reporter: this year, republicans want voters to remember bill clinton as slick willy. >> white water, impeachment, lies. he didn't have sex with that woman! >> reporter: so far, bill clinton has kept his cool. >> i think people are smart enough to figure this out without my help. >> reporter: but five months are many lifetimes in politics, and donald trump isn't about to let up. >> i know what donald trump is doing. he's trying to bait bill clinton.

he wants this debate. bill clinton has a tendency of taking the bait. and it will be interesting to see whether he can resistant that temptation. >> reporter: some evidence that he might not be able to resist taking that bait came yesterday when he was confronted with bernie sanders who were yelling at him. and he said, i'd be screaming too if i knew my candidate was going to be toast on election day. those are the kind of comments they've tried to make sure bill clinton doesn't make out on the trail. he told me about what will happen next after tuesday, that he and hillary clinton both supported barack obama very strongly in 2008 after she conceded. he wouldn't go so far as to say that bernie sanders should get out of the race, but he did point to that as evidence of a possible path forward. kate? >> all right, kasie hunt, thanks so much. it's going to be an interesting five months. the biggest deciding factor in

tomorrow's california primary could well be young latino voters. msnbc jacob soboroff caught up with sanders' supporters and joins me now from santa monica. looks beautiful, jacob. >> reporter: it's a beautiful day out here, kate. as we saw earlier today, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are still running full steam ahead, ahead of the california primary. polls close tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. local time here, 11:00 in the east coast. one of the groups that could help bernie sanders stay alive even if hillary clinton clinches with the pledged delegate and super delegate total is young latino voters. everybody thinks they are in hillary clinton's camp. at least that is the presumption before this point, but it turns out that registration is way up amongst latino voters in the state, 123% up. so i spent the day with some of those young sanders' supporters to see their strategy going into tomorrow. take a look at this. what's the key, guys to winning on tuesday? >> reach out to as many voters as possible.

who is this? >> hi, we're volunteers with bernie sanders campaign for president. are you guys -- >> i voted. >> you did. you voted for bernie? >> yes. >> that's great. >> are you voting? >> what's important to you in your life? >> nutrition policy. >> pizza and wings! >> have you seen what's around here? my options are very limited. [ laughter ] >> fair enough. >> you said you never voted before. and this year might be the year? >> yeah. >> why? >> because there's just a lot of support for bernie and i think he's really more radical. >> why not hillary clinton, if i could ask? >> um, i don't know. there's nothing in particular. not because of this or that, i just like bernie. he was at the golden state game the other day. he's such a chill guy and i just feel like, can you imagine

someone like that in the white house, just the change that it would bring to america? >> how do you think they'll vote? >> towards hillary. >> how come? >> because my grandmother wants to vote for hillary because she's just like a woman. but who knows. you guys coming around, that's super cool. >> reporter: it's an uphill battle, kate, for bernie sanders to stay alive after tomorrow, but young supporters like the one we met are one of his great hopes here in southern california. los angeles where we are, is now actually a so-called minority majority city, where latinos outnumber white residents in the city for the first time ever, i believe that mark was passed in 2014. bernie sanders, turns out, is going to be rallying not far from here tomorrow night in the santa monica area. so only time will tell what's going to happen. >> jacob, thanks so much.

that's it for me this hour. i'll see you here tomorrow afternoon. my colleague chris hayes is up next from santa monica, california. ♪ all right, i am chris hayes, from beautiful santa monica, california. it was cloudier earlier, but all that famous southern california sun is now shining down upon us as voters here will head to the polls tomorrow, if they haven't already mailed in their ballot. they'll cast their vote in what's become a heated democratic primary in this state, even as hillary clinton inches closer to the majib number of delegates needed to win the nomination, bernie sanders continues to say he will fight all the way to the convention in july. last night, clinton won puerto rico's primary and is now 19 delegates away from clirching the nomination when you include the super delegates. right now, the race here is close. the new poll shows clinton ud